You forgot to mention that Prelati’s Spellbook can regenerate, one of the only Noble Phantasms that can do that, like when it repaired itself after Diarmuid stabbed it. It also basically provides infinite mana, which was how Gilles was able to survive despite Ryuunosuke not being a mage. Bluebeard is NOT Gilles. In his event, Ritsuka got a rude awakening when they tried to get him to stand down by bringing up Jeanne, only for him to have no idea who that is.
Can't remember where I read this or if it was a biography, but wasn't Gilles spending a lot of money on making plays about his days on the battlefield with Jeanne, at the same time providing jobs and entertainment for the peasants after the war and Jeanne burning? I do find the history and trial of Gilles a bit fishy, so I do think there is a tiny chance that the trial was a ploy by the church and his family for his land. Also, his Saber FA rocks, I have this man at lv 120 with all appends unlocked on jp(sadly not fully leveled appends and fous).
I think Nik Nak missed some of the new lore on Prelati from volume 9 (chapter 28 "This world’s madness knows no bounds", to be specific) of Strange Fake. There it is revealed that Prelati is just the finally flesh-clad and incarnating version of something way older. They had been Ἄτη (Ate) (Spirit of Delusion, Recklessness, Folly, Ruin in Greek Mythology). The intelligence governing madness, who confounded the gods, humanity, and the world by swaying rationality. In Fate a software within in the Olympian fleet, one deemed necessary in the beginning but one that Zeus begann to see as unnecessary and hurled from Olympus to live as a spirit influencing and watching humans. Ate did make Agamemnon take Briseis from Achilles and make him not join the Greek forces in the events of the Illiyad. "- Fun and joy, fun and joy. Hear, glorious gods. Hear, my father, Keraunos incarnate! I commend you for dragging me by the hair, swinging me around, and slamming me on the earth. I’ll be alive as a companion of mankind while you disappear into the spiral of myth. No, I’ve been part of humanity since inception. It’s this concrete form of mine that was a dream and illusion all along. Because my perfect form, madness, originated within humanity. Ate, goddess governing madness-a wave of information who gladly dissolved herself within the world. One tiny ripple of this wave withstood the test of time and long later morphed into a form that didn’t fit the category of either human or Natural Spirit. Folly itself, this intelligence that existed only as a wave, gained a physical form. One unit of folly manifested in humanoid form." That form would become Prelati. Would study under the Lady of the Lake, would copy Merlin's approach of Magecraft. Would befriend Gilles de Rais and have the first of it's many incarnation die there. That is the true background of Prelati.
51:32 funny enough the insult was calling her by her title red which was a insult to touko because she wanted blue her family color but it was given to her sister who has magic blue So when prelati called her red she proceeded to attack her and killed her and started a crusade where she kept killing prelati and sometimes prelati kills her but she kept coming back prelati was so freaked out of it she sent a letter to touko’s family to stop her and still touko killed her it was only after the 13th touko told her she never wanted to see her again and if she did she would find a permanent way to kill her
48:25 The Chthonians are part of the extended Cthulhu Mythos that Gilles in Fate generally draws from. Much like the Bluebeard version being just the bride killer and not obsessed with Jeanne is a clear pointer to his nature, so is the use of Chthonians instead of the Sea Demons he normally summons with Prelati's Spellbook (which directly is referred to as a version of the R'hley text from the Ctulhu Mythos, which in turn points to Chulhu being the Great Old one connected to Gilles in Fate). Chthonians are the Burrowers Beneath, Graboid [yes those things from "Tremors" were probably inspired by them] like earthquake causing sentient wormlike tentacle things with a strange biological nature that are weak to water and moisture. They were first introduced in the short story "Cement Surroundings" by Brian Lumlay in 1967, which was later expanded to the 1975 novel "The Burrowers Beneath", which in turn took it's title from a fictional short story by a Robert Harrison Blake (the literary alter Ego of author Robert Bloch in the mythos tales, much like how Randolph Carther was HP Lovecraft's alter Ego in the Mythos) that was mentioned as one of Blake's works in the (IRL) story "The Haunter of the Dark", whoch was written by HP Lovecraft.
So that is what you meant when you said you would use a wider definition of monster this October ... . A Gilles episode: so cool! I like that Fate gives us a showcase of sympathetic Gilles (Saber) who fights his darker aspects and a "fallen" version.
No the entire reason why Franquos Prelati can't use his spellbook is exactly because he doesn't have it,similarly to Arturia who tehnically has three noble phantasm's but cannot use it because doesn't have it at hand.
françois oh how I love my evil wife her rabbit hole is so funny she's canonically when the oldest and most powerful me just to ever live but for some reason she just woke up and chose problems Merlin zellerich both of the aozaki sisters and basically every dead apostles want her dead she's interfered with more than half of the grill Wars and led to the downfall of multiple historical figures and despite all of this no one was able to kill her the closest we've ever seen is Angra Mainyu power if the concept of human evil can't kill this person I don't know what can
not sure where "we dont know who the first prelati is" comes from prelati specificaly states he was recorded in the throne of heroes after his FIRST death the heroic spirit prelati IS the first prelati also while prelati was gilles friend there is no mention of him being gilles mentor
saber gilles WAS NOT summoned in apocrypha what was summoned in apocrypha was a spirit of gilles which had no class at all due to this it wasnt good gilles or bad gilles it was the true gilles de rais possesing both his aspects as a madman and a knight in a way you can say it was both saber and caster gilles together(altough it had no actual combat ability) as there was no class to seperate the different aspects of gilles
so about which outer god the gigantic horror is the answer is none of them its a low level god and its name is just gigantic horror an original outer god from fate you can consider
I believe it was mentioned in one of the OLD old Fate materials (the pre FGO ones) that the Greater Horror WAS a child of Cthulu specifically, but yeah Gilles hadn't directly linked up with any of the well known Eldritch gods, but to one with tertiary relationship to them. Given how knowledgeable Gilles is on how they work within the bounds of Fate's universe, it makes sense that he'd be smart enough to keep SOME distance from the big named ones.
so idk why but you just completly skipped what saber gilles noble phantasm does so imma just leave the description here "recreates the time when Gilles had fought under the banner of the Holy Maiden - in other words, when he himself had been at the most brilliant point of his life. It grants a rank up to his parameters similar to Mad Enhancement, and he automatically continues attacking until the target is completely silenced. It also adds a bonus to his attack damage."
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You forgot to mention that Prelati’s Spellbook can regenerate, one of the only Noble Phantasms that can do that, like when it repaired itself after Diarmuid stabbed it. It also basically provides infinite mana, which was how Gilles was able to survive despite Ryuunosuke not being a mage.
Bluebeard is NOT Gilles. In his event, Ritsuka got a rude awakening when they tried to get him to stand down by bringing up Jeanne, only for him to have no idea who that is.
Gilles saber for sure deserves a good animation update, but alot of that comes from his FA being so damn good, it's not even funny how great it is.
It goes *SO* fuckin hard and it has no right to. Like, that's a 5* FA. Lol
Can't remember where I read this or if it was a biography, but wasn't Gilles spending a lot of money on making plays about his days on the battlefield with Jeanne, at the same time providing jobs and entertainment for the peasants after the war and Jeanne burning? I do find the history and trial of Gilles a bit fishy, so I do think there is a tiny chance that the trial was a ploy by the church and his family for his land. Also, his Saber FA rocks, I have this man at lv 120 with all appends unlocked on jp(sadly not fully leveled appends and fous).
I think Nik Nak missed some of the new lore on Prelati from volume 9 (chapter 28 "This world’s madness knows no bounds", to be specific) of Strange Fake. There it is revealed that Prelati is just the finally flesh-clad and incarnating version of something way older. They had been Ἄτη (Ate) (Spirit of Delusion, Recklessness, Folly, Ruin in Greek Mythology). The intelligence governing madness, who confounded the gods, humanity, and the world by swaying rationality. In Fate a software within in the Olympian fleet, one deemed necessary in the beginning but one that Zeus begann to see as unnecessary and hurled from Olympus to live as a spirit influencing and watching humans. Ate did make Agamemnon take Briseis from Achilles and make him not join the Greek forces in the events of the Illiyad.
"- Fun and joy, fun and joy. Hear, glorious gods. Hear, my father, Keraunos incarnate! I commend you for dragging me by the hair, swinging me around, and slamming me on the earth. I’ll be alive as a companion of mankind while you disappear into the spiral of myth. No, I’ve been part of humanity since inception. It’s this concrete form of mine that was a dream and illusion all along. Because my perfect form, madness, originated within humanity.
Ate, goddess governing madness-a wave of information who gladly dissolved herself within the world.
One tiny ripple of this wave withstood the test of time and long later morphed into a form that didn’t fit the category of either human or Natural Spirit.
Folly itself, this intelligence that existed only as a wave, gained a physical form.
One unit of folly manifested in humanoid form."
That form would become Prelati. Would study under the Lady of the Lake, would copy Merlin's approach of Magecraft. Would befriend Gilles de Rais and have the first of it's many incarnation die there.
That is the true background of Prelati.
51:32 funny enough the insult was calling her by her title red which was a insult to touko because she wanted blue her family color but it was given to her sister who has magic blue
So when prelati called her red she proceeded to attack her and killed her and started a crusade where she kept killing prelati and sometimes prelati kills her but she kept coming back prelati was so freaked out of it she sent a letter to touko’s family to stop her and still touko killed her it was only after the 13th touko told her she never wanted to see her again and if she did she would find a permanent way to kill her
And she did find it in Kara no kyoukai.😂
48:25 The Chthonians are part of the extended Cthulhu Mythos that Gilles in Fate generally draws from. Much like the Bluebeard version being just the bride killer and not obsessed with Jeanne is a clear pointer to his nature, so is the use of Chthonians instead of the Sea Demons he normally summons with Prelati's Spellbook (which directly is referred to as a version of the R'hley text from the Ctulhu Mythos, which in turn points to Chulhu being the Great Old one connected to Gilles in Fate). Chthonians are the Burrowers Beneath, Graboid [yes those things from "Tremors" were probably inspired by them] like earthquake causing sentient wormlike tentacle things with a strange biological nature that are weak to water and moisture. They were first introduced in the short story "Cement Surroundings" by Brian Lumlay in 1967, which was later expanded to the 1975 novel "The Burrowers Beneath", which in turn took it's title from a fictional short story by a Robert Harrison Blake (the literary alter Ego of author Robert Bloch in the mythos tales, much like how Randolph Carther was HP Lovecraft's alter Ego in the Mythos) that was mentioned as one of Blake's works in the (IRL) story "The Haunter of the Dark", whoch was written by HP Lovecraft.
So that is what you meant when you said you would use a wider definition of monster this October ... .
A Gilles episode: so cool!
I like that Fate gives us a showcase of sympathetic Gilles (Saber) who fights his darker aspects and a "fallen" version.
much wider haha!
i appreciate the two versions given that like bathory there is a whole load of historical fishyness going on
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No the entire reason why Franquos Prelati can't use his spellbook is exactly because he doesn't have it,similarly to Arturia who tehnically has three noble phantasm's but cannot use it because doesn't have it at hand.
I think it will be Rasputin and Senji Muramasa.
françois oh how I love my evil wife her rabbit hole is so funny she's canonically when the oldest and most powerful me just to ever live but for some reason she just woke up and chose problems Merlin zellerich both of the aozaki sisters and basically every dead apostles want her dead she's interfered with more than half of the grill Wars and led to the downfall of multiple historical figures and despite all of this no one was able to kill her the closest we've ever seen is Angra Mainyu power if the concept of human evil can't kill this person I don't know what can
Try Van Gogh next
not sure where "we dont know who the first prelati is" comes from
prelati specificaly states he was recorded in the throne of heroes after his FIRST death
the heroic spirit prelati IS the first prelati
also while prelati was gilles friend there is no mention of him being gilles mentor
saber gilles WAS NOT summoned in apocrypha
what was summoned in apocrypha was a spirit of gilles which had no class at all
due to this it wasnt good gilles or bad gilles it was the true gilles de rais possesing both his aspects as a madman and a knight
in a way you can say it was both saber and caster gilles together(altough it had no actual combat ability) as there was no class to seperate the different aspects of gilles
so about which outer god the gigantic horror is
the answer is none of them
its a low level god and its name is just gigantic horror
an original outer god from fate you can consider
I believe it was mentioned in one of the OLD old Fate materials (the pre FGO ones) that the Greater Horror WAS a child of Cthulu specifically, but yeah Gilles hadn't directly linked up with any of the well known Eldritch gods, but to one with tertiary relationship to them.
Given how knowledgeable Gilles is on how they work within the bounds of Fate's universe, it makes sense that he'd be smart enough to keep SOME distance from the big named ones.
ok so just a small correction
gilles is pronounced either jill or jills not jyle
so idk why but you just completly skipped what saber gilles noble phantasm does so imma just leave the description here
"recreates the time when Gilles had fought under the banner of the Holy Maiden - in other words, when he himself had been at the most brilliant point of his life. It grants a rank up to his parameters similar to Mad Enhancement, and he automatically continues attacking until the target is completely silenced. It also adds a bonus to his attack damage."
44:59 he mentioned it briefly. It's not like it does anything special really.