DIGITAKT | DIGITONE - Why I am selling!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I describe my thinking of why I am selling the Elektron Digitakt and Digitone. Hopefully this helps in a way to think about your gear, and that it sometimes is good to swap instruments to get renewed inspiration. A music studio will always be an organic thing, and not like Pokemon: You can't have them all ;)
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There are a lot of musicians who are used to the MPC workflow. I always liked looping more than sequencing because it used to be mostly programming when I started music. The thing that drove me towards the digitakt is that the sequencer takes away the monotony of a bar based sequence. I also mangle samples so much that they sometimes are unrecognizable from the original recording. So for me if I am inspired and have a good sound already I go to my Daw. If I’m feeling uninspired or something is missing with the sound I go to the digitakt. I realized this after I sold the digitakt and then I rebought it.
Yeah, it is all about getting the workflow that suits you personally. For me, I almost never use a DAW, apart from sometimes record a live take. And have been sequencing with an mpc for ages... linear... love it :)
mega fm looks great i hope they do a facelift version of that. Digitakt is my sketch pad, super fast takes no space and trigs on midi. Great upload.
What do you mean with a facelift version of the MegaFM? Higher resolution for sweetspots would be nice... And yes, glad you find this a great upload; always doubting if anyone is waiting for my opinion on gear... but we all learn from these kinds of things right, even though we dont have to agree! It is all inspiration!
Get an Oxi sequence monster and you'll soon forget about elektons sequences. ESPECIALLY after Oxi's recent firmware update. Oxi used with my custom synths in Maschine simply gives me the ability to quickly write complete pieces (that sound like no other instrument), which I then spend some time polishing. A highly powerful and easy and fast work flow... once you learn how to quickly do auto sampling in machine.
Oxi is the future for more and more people, as it gives us the most powerful sequencer to use with any instrument.
I also got rid of the Digitone and replaced it with a MegaFm MKII. The MegaFM is gorgeous and gritty.
This was helpful, I just bought the digitone and I’m slowly getting used to the workflow but hearing your plan to get rid of the digitakt for the mpc has me feeling better about trying to use with my akai force and not gassing over the digitakt digitone combo. I’ll get more milage from the force anyway-it’s just gigantic in comparison lol
The digitakt is fast and intuitive... but I just need stereo and more power... and I happily sacrifice a little bit of the fastness for it...
when you have been working for 25 years in daw, apparently- you want to run away from daw interfaces, the electron helps with this
For me that is the MPC ;) Without ever opening the gridview/piano roll ;)
I've been DAWless for 25 years, now wanna run TO the DAW! 😅
Interesting decision. You know that digitone very very well. It’s used after 4 years, how much will you actually get and will it be worth it? I
learned a bunch from you. An inspiring digi user. Thx!
Thank you... lovely to read that you got something out of the video's! :) And yeah, though decision, but a studio is an organic thing... constantly evolving!
Four months in, how do you like the Syntakt for its sound design capabilities? I'm also an MPC user and I love its versatile workflow, but I too missed the sequencer of the Elektron boxes. But to me, the Syntakt is like the worst combination of the Digitakt and Digitone: no per-track polyphony, very shallow FM synthesis, shallow melodic sound design overall, tinny hi hat machine, no arp, no chorus, no resampling, etc etc. Yes, on paper it had 12 tracks and is both analog and digital, but in practice, if just sounds thin. I think I'll go back to accepting that I'm way more productive on the MPC and look for inspirational synth sounds elsewhere, like my Hydrasynth.
Well, I kind of love the syntakt, but not as a standalone unit. I am starting a band with a guitarist at the moment and the combination of guitar and the beats and the baselines of the analog part is pretty dope I must say (with the occasional other sound)... this will be the base, but next step for my part is to integrate the MPC One as well, to have best of all worlds... Hope this makes sense!
@@SupahDupah Six months later and I love the Syntakt. It's funny how your opinions change over time. I never use the MPC anymore, instead, I record the Syntakt multitracked into the DAW and then do the final mixing and sampling touches there instead.
Yep. I like your analogy. The new combo seems deadly to me.
Yes, I am sooo happy still with the Syntakt... still need to incorporate the MPC more... but I am in a band now, and I just use the syntakt for beats and bass and the occasional lead... great for live!
Well I dove in to Digitone lately. Both the sequencer and the sound blew me away. I do want more of those E-boxes : ))
I was thinking of the same thing! But instead having syntakt + sp404
Also a cool combination... I tried a sp303 back in the day, but I vibe more with the mpc workflow... :)
Seriously.. I shall stay tuned!
Great helpful video, I got the digitone, it is fantastic but I feel to sell it for an Akai or Roland. Am mostly on Daw.
Cool :) If you sell the digitone and want similar sounds in the daw… i highly recommend the plugins from fors.fm
Similar vibe :)
@@SupahDupah Thanks! Yeah I sold it!
This was a mistake. Easy to use, sounds great and needs only a little space on your desk…..
Not sure if its since I updated firmware but recently my MPC One has gotten real slow. I used to be able to flick through VST Synth samples with ease, now I have to wait for each one to load (like 2 -3seconds) before I can use it or move to the next one.
Which version do you use? I don't use the plugins much... so I can't answer that question from the top of my head
What happened to the mpc and syntakt pariing? Ihave the mpc and planning to add the syntakt
Haven’t tried the combo much yet… time is an issue… and once I wanted to jam with the duo with a giutarist, but couldnt get it to sync within 15 minutes… so I defaulted to the syntakt solo ;)
for a dx7 and a polyend play
3. many
for a rytm mk2
4. individual
Get a blastbeats by twisted electrons. It sounds crazyyyy
It seems like it does!
😁mpc rock, you can parameter lock in mpc now😉
Oh boy! That is great news :)
for an opsix and a deluge
5. replies?
for an octatrack with an a4 mk2
1. why
This was a bad idea. I did the same thing and regret it.
Didn't regret my decision... Do miss the Digitakt a little bit, especially with the new machines added... but at the same time, still not on full speed with the mpc one's sampling features... so for now, I am still happy...
Not too noisy? ..the MegaFM
Well, the noise is part of the character of the MegaFM. It has more subtle sweetspots as well, but if you don't like noise/dirt in your sounds, I should skip this one... then the DigiTone is way more suited!
for a daw in the box with some half assed vsts and a few midi pads
The MPC can sequence other gear... I won't be using the internal plugins... ;)
Writing off the most capable groovebox, hardware sequencer and hardware sampler in the world as "a daw in the box" is just silly.
Lol a few midi pads. Its one of the main features since the first mpcs. 16 levels, great sequencer, more than 8 tracks and great sample chopping options. DT is great but no need to try and downplay other gear to justify your own purchase lol...its not football, you dont need to be a fanatic
for a 1010 blackbox and a peak
2. so
I have all three of these units. MPC needs setup time and a learning curve to wrap your head around all the parts. Two different ways of making music, which is not a bad thing. The UI/UX of the MPC ONE still needs a lot of work. Just because it can do a lot of things, doesn't make it ok for the workflow to be half baked, which it is. Just take a look at the MPC ONE step sequencer. That thing is completely and totally unusable. Someone once told me, "Hey! The MPC ONE is not for step sequencing!" Well then, why include it on the device? It's broken and calls into question the decision process behind aspects of this device. Some parts are more in favor of others according to the designers. It is one of the worst step sequencers out there.
True, true... I have never used the step-sequencer on the MPC... on any of my previous MPC's... luckily no piece of kit is perfect :)
@@SupahDupah Right, but if it actually worked and they put some thought into it, it could get it's recognition and people would use it. You could be like, "woah they updated the sequencer, check this out everybody!" and as far as no piece of gear not being perfect, true, but as a UI/UX person, everything can be made better!
@@eyeballhopscotch2268 Yes, very true as well :) Hopefully they will keep on updating the eco-system...
At least they added a sequencer, and maybe going to update it in the future. I think that’s a better approach then Elektrons „well fuck it, why should we add stuff like stereo sampling or a at least somewhat understandable amount of disk space, people gonna buy it anyways“ and what’s twisted about it it’s just because they have other boxes who can do it, but they can’t do other stuff. I’d really wish Elektron would bring out a modern box with modern features all in one and not this like „okay you buy this but then you don’t have that, oh yeah you can do that but not in this way, there’s a work around“ I really can’t believe how many work around you need with the Elektron boxes that are just normal features directly implemented in like every other device..
Let us know when you sell your mother!
for a syntakt. boom
6. Dude! ;)
@@SupahDupah that was very creative. i reply live in realtime, i like to pretend im interacting with the uploader as im watching. makes it more fun for me
@@christdolphin69 Yeah, cool... love it... appreciated! :)