Buying a New Motorcycle in 2025: How Much HORSEPOWER is Enough?

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  • @MotoGiant
    @MotoGiant 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I listened closely, and I heard: 1. getting blown around on the interstate, and 2. wanting a 6th gear. Neither have anything to do with HP. To reduce the tossing from wind, you simply need a HEAVIER bike that is more aerodynamic. I suggest you put another 10k miles on the KLR and then decide what is important to you, as it seem NOT to be HP? I look forward to the solution - good video!

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MotoGiant Thanks for the comment. I feel honoured that you watched my video and then took the time to comment. I first started watching your content after your crash. I’m impressed with your recovery and return to riding. Heavier and aero. I will consider that. And as for our suggestion of adding another 10k…I agree, I’m in no rush to replace the KLR and at least have time to pick the right machine for me down the road. As I gain experience and have a better Idea of what I want out of a bike.

  • @RobertHanz
    @RobertHanz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's less peak hp and more about the total power curve. I like a bike where the power curve is wide enough that it doesn't need to get wound up high to get out of its own way.

  • @GregMacDougall-m3n
    @GregMacDougall-m3n หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A ninja 500 has the same power but it comes in at a different engine speed, it's also very aerodynamic.
    As you get better at riding a motorcycle you will achieve better speeds; you're simply getting better.
    P.S. Living here in the Pacific N.W. please be careful and reduce speeds in (wet) weather.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have a friend in Toronto that has a Ninja 500 he learned on and he really likes it. He mentioned it had the same power as mine but being a far different design for Freeway use. And thanks for the heads up on reducing the speeds I've certainly been nervous on some wet roads, and it's worse when I start seeing the leaves on the road.

  • @Bikes_N_Adventure
    @Bikes_N_Adventure หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having owned bikes ranging from 23hp-125hp, I will say I just picked up an Aprilia Tuareg 660 and believe it will meet your needs exactly! It is an awesome machine packed with tech, balanced power all offered at a solid value around 12k new, for reference I have owned and ridden the following since 2016; R3, F800GS, Versys 650, R1200GSA, KLR 650, Z900rs, KLX 300, and now the Tuareg 660 and KLX 300 reside in the stable. Light weight/balanced power is the way!

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats quite the variety of bikes you've owned. I can only dream of having some of those. And they all look like bikes I would like to ride. I've seen lots about the Tuareg on TH-cam, but wonder about the dealer support. I really like how it looks and it gets good reviews. I keep thinking I don't have room in the garage for 2...but both those bikes you mention the 660 and 300 seem like a good pairing for the kind of riding I have in my area. Plus I've been following a new Channel where the guy is riding a 300 around the world. I can't really afford to have two bikes insured but the thought of having two bikes just keeps getting more attractive as time goes by.

    • @Bikes_N_Adventure
      @Bikes_N_Adventure หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto Absolutely brother! A middle weight ADV can truly do it all, and the KLX is practically a dirt bike that you can plate/ride on the highway. Where I live in Las Vegas insurance is INSANE only second to NYC, the KLX is $8 a month, and the 660 is $43, all through progressive. There is a way!

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      OMG our insurance rates are through the roof compared to where you are...I don't have the numbers handy but my insurance is around $1000 a year. We have to use gov't insurance fore the basic and then private if we want for the rest which can be much cheaper than using the gov't one for the full coverage.

  • @albertleffler962
    @albertleffler962 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where I ride freeways are 80-100 mph always. 65 to 80 horsepower. Aprilia touareg 660 or equivalent. Excellent on or off road.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for posting. I hadn't even had the Aprilla Toureg on my radar. Power sounds good and a very handsome bike as well. I'm going to look for a dealer here to take a close up look at it.

    • @Bikes_N_Adventure
      @Bikes_N_Adventure หลายเดือนก่อน

      10/10 Agreed!

  • @imkindofabigdeal4308
    @imkindofabigdeal4308 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like my '18 V-Strom 1000. Great low-end torque. Perfect on a highway commute. Works great two-up. Comfy...faster on a winding road than you'd think. Not terrible off-road with better tires. Can find them with less miles than the V-Strom 650s (which seem to get driven a ton - which is a nice endorsement). Mine had a little over 4k miles, basically new.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@imkindofabigdeal4308 Do you happen to know why the 1000 are normally driven less than the 650? Sounds like it would be great for putting in big miles.

  • @MXD29
    @MXD29 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should check out the Yamaha Teneré 700. Excellent bike and a nice step up without stepping too far.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MXD29 yes that could be a good option…and it has a low fender. Same engine as the MT07 I think? My buddy has a MT07 and it seems to move well with that motor.

  • @geneclarke2205
    @geneclarke2205 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, how many Harley touring riders never tour, how many ADV riders never see dirt, how many sport bike riders ride the speed limit, and how many riders fall for the latest marketing scheme of more HP, more torque, more tech but never use any of it. My advice, know your real objectives and budget vs your "riding dreams" well before you look at bikes. So many riders overspend on bikes that are well beyond their abilities and use case. Also, think about 80/20 tires with that sprocket change and a small wind screen for the KLR. That could make a noted difference.

  • @RichBensen
    @RichBensen หลายเดือนก่อน

    V-Strom 650 or 800. I've had both, highly recommended.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm seeing a lot of V-Strom 650 for sale recently. High miles well over 100K miles. Though I don't want a high mileage bike, it seems to bode well for the machine itself.

    • @RichBensen
      @RichBensen หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SpokedInTheEyeMotoYes, there are a lot of high mileage V-Strom 650s out there. If maintained properly the engines are pretty much bulletproof.
      It won't help you in Canada, unless you're really willing to travel for a bike purchase, but a dealer I visited here in Kentucky has an immaculate 2022 650 with only 15k miles on it for 6 grand US. Perhaps you can find a similar deal closer to home.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RichBensen I've never been to Kentucky so it would make for a nice trip, but a bit far for me to go for a bike at the moment. I'm on the west coast of Canada. And our dollar is really weak to the USD right now. Years ago I purchased a travel trailer in Washington State when our dollar was worth more than years. I should have invested in the USD back then.

  • @free2roam674
    @free2roam674 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Horses for courses, it very much depends on you, where you like to ride and whether usually one or two up. As your next bike I like the V strom 650 or any of the Yamaha 700 cp2 bikes. If you are not going off road, why buy the Tenere? How about the MT-07? The Ninja 400/500 has plenty of power for one up riding. I would advise you to buy a good reliable used bike and then you can work your way up if you wish. Always assume that you are invisible on your bike and always buy the best tires. Stay safe out there. Cam

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@free2roam674 Thanks for the information. I’m doing some off road but no plans other than FSR’s. So even though I’m doing some dirt roads, I agree the T7 might not be right for my needs. I have a friend with a MT-07 who might let me try it.

  • @Bob-xc2us
    @Bob-xc2us หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that you might have the wrong style of bike for the majority of your riding. I understand the draw of the dual sport machines but they are not the best off road and they are not the best on the highway. The horse power of your machine is a touch on the low side for freeway work. I have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 that only makes 51.7 horsepower but it has low and mid range torque for days. It's not a Goldwing but it does very well on the freeway at 120kph with lots of power in reserve. It has a very broad torque band that starts very low in the rev range which makes it a joy in city traffic and is only revving at 4200rpm at 120kph (75mph). It only has a 5 speed but they are well spaced and 5th is actually a .85 overdrive so it does not need a 6th gear. Higher revving engines that don't make good low and mid range torque and need to be kept in the higher rev range need closer spaced gearing with 6 gears. Horsepower makes for good advertising but torque is what gets the job done in normal riding. I had a 1981 Honda CM400T that made 43hp but it had to rev high to get to that horsepower. It was a nice comfortable bike but lacked the grunt for relaxed in town riding.
    My W800 will putt around at 50kph in fifth gear and pull smartly to 100kph without shifting while still staying ahead of other traffic and doesn't feel over rev'd at highway speeds. It will also pull away from a stop at idle without touching the throttle. That kind of torque is intoxicating and makes a bike very easy to ride.
    You don't need 150hp to have fun. If the W800 doesn't interest you then look at the Triumph T100 and T120. They are more horsepower than my W and have good available torque. On a motorcycle intended for street use torque is king.
    You might also look at the Kawasaki Z900RS. It is a 4 cylinder which is not my cup of tea but it makes good mid range torque and is the best sounding 4 cylinder I have ever heard. It is a bit much machine for me at 70 years old but it is a very nice bike. Anything 60 to 80hp should do you nicely however. I don't think you want a 6-700 pound beast for where and how you ride.
    Enjoy the trip looking for the perfect bike for you but make sure you ride a few before jumping in to avoid trading up too many times.
    Cheers. BJ in Ottawa

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for all that great information. I wish I had unlimited funds (and room) so I could have multiple bikes in my garage. I did look at the Z900RS at the dealer, it is a very nice looking bike. Actually all the bikes you mentioned are very good looking. I happen to live in an area with what seems like unlimited Forest Service Roads, so I'm inclined to stick with a dual sport or ADV, or maybe a scrambler. I really enjoy getting off the beaten path, but still ride the roads and freeways often. How is the feeling of wind on your 800 when on the freeway? Did you add a windscreen? I just started riding in my early 50's and enjoy it so much I wish I had started sooner. I like to hear about riders like you, a bit older. That gives me hope that if I can stay healthy at least until I reach 70 that will give me almost 20 years of riding enjoyment. And I am going to heed your, and others advice about not rushing into a bike. I'm going to take my time. Maybe next year or the year after once I'm feel I'm ready.

    • @Bob-xc2us
      @Bob-xc2us หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto A lot of people put dual purpose tires on the likes of the W800 and ride them on those kinds of roads. They do better than you might think.
      BJ

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh thats good to know. That's not so bad I guess. My plan is just for dirt roads so that could work. I will broaden my search. I will go and take another look at the W800 at the dealership.

    • @Bob-xc2us
      @Bob-xc2us หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto I put a DART fly screen on my W800. It takes the pressure off the chest at highway speed but makes a little more buffering around the helmet. I rode bikes in my early thirties and got back into it at 68. Wish I had done it sooner. I have ridden a few other peoples machines over the years and I lived and worked in Bermuda for a year and a half where my only means of transportation was a scooter.
      Just about any street bike will handle gravel roads and most of them will handle forestry road with more aggressive tires. Just be careful around the rocks.

    • @Bob-xc2us
      @Bob-xc2us หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto Hope they have a W800. They are very scarce here in Ottawa. I have not seen another one on the road in my 2 1/2 years with mine. I love the W800 and the way it rides but everyone is different so try one out if you get the opportunity.

  • @ghajepkre
    @ghajepkre หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    260

  • @MontanaDirtRoads
    @MontanaDirtRoads 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Honestly ya dont need much over 80hp, that being said my klr does everything i need it to do.ya just need the ability to do the speedlimit.most people get off the klr cause its not "fast enough " just remember the more on road capabilities it has the less off road capabilities it will have.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep, its that fine balance between off road capability and on road. Like hose areas you ride with your KLR and the ones I ride, I want to keep riding so I don't want too much bigger. Just that little bit of extra horsepower so I can reach those speeds you do which I can't seem to do comfortably on mine I think the Gen3 KLR has more horsepower, and is EFI but still lacks that 6th gear. Heck there is a guy from my area that just started a world trip on a KLX300 which I think has only 24 HP with 6 speeds. If he can be happy on a KLX maybe I should stop worrying about my 40hp bike. No matter what I just love riding.

    • @MontanaDirtRoads
      @MontanaDirtRoads 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto play with your preload on the rear spring, it helps alot with stability when its set right.it takes time to get used to how it rides at higher speeds, I drive jeeps without swaybars at high speeds so I'm kinda used to doing sketchy shit on the road lol,also this isn't my first bike just my first brand new one.i do try to avoid interstates as much as possible cause it's cheaper on gas and more comfortable for the bike.ya can change your gearing but that's gonna sacrifice something on the other end,I like the stock gears as it's a happy medium between trails and highway.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MontanaDirtRoads Good Idea. Will do.

    • @MontanaDirtRoads
      @MontanaDirtRoads 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SpokedInTheEyeMoto there isn't much out there that's in price range as the klr and as simple to work on as the klr,I'd stay away from triumph if its something your looking to ride days from home.the t7 is a great bike but not as easy to ride off road as the power difference is great and harder to manage as ya seen in my video.also more power means more weight which means more to manage in picarius situations. My buddy the rides the africa twin kicks my ass on the highway but I pass him alot on the harder trails even though he has decades more experienced than I do. My bike is just more easily handled on the ruffer gnarly or trails. There's a lot to be said for weight as it's harder to stop in a tip over,picking up or working down a hard trial.lighter bikes don't wear ya out as fast. Yes, the KLR is not a stable on the highway, especially in the wind. But the other down sides that I accept due to. Its easier for me to manage. When I buy myself in the woods alone? If I were to tip it over, it's easier to pick back up.

  • @Driver599
    @Driver599 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As much as large cc motorbikes entice us, I think the 600-900cc is the sweet spot. If your buying used, I think Aprilia or Triumphs are good brands. They depreciate more initially, thus give 2nd owner more value for money while being quite reliable. I rode a Dorsoduro 750 for 27000kms and no regrets. I personally think when we play it safe and buy cars/bikes with the mind we lust for others and quickly look for replacements. Buy with the heart. Many happy kms on your two wheel journey.

  • @ZinoAmare
    @ZinoAmare หลายเดือนก่อน

    strictly HP speaking I would say 100 is more than enough for anyone, I am not talking about beginners.

    • @SpokedInTheEyeMoto
      @SpokedInTheEyeMoto  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm thinking I would like something between 80-100. But not yet. I think having this KLR at 40HP has been great for me learning. Frustrating at times, but at my skill level it has been ideal.

  • @Rickmac22
    @Rickmac22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Transalp would solve your problems!

  • @dustyhobomotoadventure
    @dustyhobomotoadventure หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no perfect bike. That being said; two bikes is the way to go. There are so many options out there. Your needs make You a bike trader, rather than a bike hoarder. Thats My agenda; any way look carefully. Many riders chase the idea of a unicorn bike. Well that does not exist period.... My stable has the V Strom 650 will not part with. Also a new bike Honda Crf 300 L. I need; not want. a road bike and a off pavement bike. 40 HP with the right final drive sprockets is enough in My humble opinion.

  • @tymobyrne4451
    @tymobyrne4451 หลายเดือนก่อน

    light bikes need 100hp, heavy bikes need 200hp...

    • @Bikes_N_Adventure
      @Bikes_N_Adventure หลายเดือนก่อน

      What would you consider light/heavy?