I think there's one more component that one needs. You need to enjoy winning much more than others. And not just that, you need to really enjoy that particular thing you're doing. A fighting game in this case. If winning and losing don't push those buttons in your heart, you'll never have enough motivation to discipline yourself to do what it takes to git gud. So in a way you need to be born that way. I think that's the real talent. Not uber reactions. Not machine like execution. Not an inexplicable gut feeling allowing you to know exactly what to do in a situation. All that can be acquired over time. But you can't teach yourself to love winning in fighting games. Love it enough to "endure" boring grinding, studying and researching.
@カジュアル勢ゲーマー exactly you need passion for what it is you're doing if you're looking to be great at it. If you're not passionate about it then it's only something you like on a casual level and that's ok too.
I remember watching my step-sis play MKX against cpu's for hours on end and eventually expressing the desire to get better at beating the harder cpus. She played the game the same way you'd imagine your mom or someone like that playing the game. Just kinda hitting buttons. When I told her maybe she should go into training mode and learn some combos and see if that would help her out, she immediately protested saying something along the lines of "No because thats what people with no life do". If you wanna actually get good at these games or anything at life you are gonna have to invest time into actually getting better at it.
At the same time, everybody's different. Training mode is an inevitable destination for someone trying to get good, but when we decide to go there and how often is up to the individual. I personally never hit training mode until there's something specific I want to practice, I'd rather grind out 10k games of ranked or player match and learn through experience
@@sirtoxic5147 oh for sure, but willingness to actually hit that training mode and learn it like that is very dependant on the individual; I would go as far as saying it's part of the reason why the genre isn't popular
I think it comes down to who you surround yourself with. The Japanese play the game together over and over, and SHARE information. Its a way of life there, that's the difference. No selfishness, only sharing info, strategies, and competitive energy within legit friendships with high local community support.
It's funny cause this applies to damn near everything u wanna get good at. Wanna get a degree? Wanna lose weight? Wanna get good at fighting games? Consistency is key. There's no secret. It's not easy. It's simple. Show up, train/study, rest, and repeat. Personally, I'm fine being an online warrior. I don't feel like doing any of this shit lol. I have my hands full with work, family, and being consistent in the gym. For fighting games I settle for having a decent rank and playing with the homies. I'm fine with that. That said, I'm gonna start going to locals with SF6 so I might start labbing heavy but it's not a priority.
Even if you don't place particularly high in local tournaments I think the community aspect of meeting up with a bunch of people who all think the same shit is sick as hell makes it worth it lol. But good luck! Also props for having your priorities straight.
Those two-piece drills are done in martial arts. The people who like to spar only never get super good. You have to isolate variables to dial in certain situations.
When I tell you I heard every letter and digested it, no matter how uncomfortable it was to hear this, I sat and listened to every word. This is my first Street Fighter I’m taking completely serious. I appreciate this video beyond belief. Let’s get to work.
15:52 Important thing at this point, you see that Daigo "autopilots" the wrong response, jabs the fuha instead of sweep. Notice how he takes a moment, even just half a second, to stop and RECOGNIZE he did the wrong response and was anticipating instead of guessing. Probably resets whatever internal counter he's doing (10 in a row on each side?) This is part of it. You have to recognize when you do the incorrect option and cut it out while training so it doesn't become muscle memory. Awareness is key even when doing "mindless" drills. If you find yourself anticipating or "guessing", then stop and do it even slower. For SF6 say you're practicing anti air and stuffing drive rush. It is better to be slow with the right option than it is to be fast with the wrong one. You can speed up correct muscle memory easily (think learning a song at a lower BPM and increasing tempo gradually) than it is to completely correct incorrect muscle memory. In training that means you will probably get hit in the face by the drive rushes you're checking late, but that's better than being jumpy and trying to poke as a guess only to get jumped in on.
I had a trouble of doing the research part of fighting games. The knowledge aspect alluded me which made improving at these games hard. Watching your videos gives me ideas on how to approach the game and also learning. While I do wish to be a good player in SF6 additionally want my actions to show it. Another banger video can't wait to play a REAL GOOD FIGHTING GAME soon.
This is one of the best videos I have seen on improving in SF. This completely changed my mindset and gave me a path forward to getting better. Now to put in the work.
I'm a player that is really good at picking up new system mechanics and getting good at a fighting game early on. The thing I've always struggled with isn't grinding sets or matchups, but finding answers to moves and techniques I struggle against in training mode. This usually leads to my advantage slowly dwindling away as my competition learns that knowledge and surpasses me. Strive is the first game that I decided that I would make a concerted effort at labing matchups and finding my own weaknesses. That effort led me to getting 25th with Anji in Strive at Dreamhack Atlanta, which was my strongest performance since my DOA days. All that to say... I totally agree that focused effort and training can go a long way. I plan on pushing myself even further in SF6 to be a true competitor.
I guess i need to start watching you more if we are having conversations like this. Everything in gaming, especially in fighting games, competitively, is based off of knowledge. Thats why the streamer tournament with people that didnt playbstreet fighter was so fun.
I think the most important thing would be your mindset and mental strength, patience and your ability to accept outcomes. I know a few players who've labbed combos for years and know a few tricks here and there for the games they play but when they lose they get pretty upset and get discouraged when a better player bests them. I'm still a rookie but the first thing I've tried my best with is accepting my loses and just asking questions to myself "how could I do this to beat this... etc." Also like others are commenting, community, reviewing and just the desire to play your best rather than just wanting to win!
It’s tru to truly get better or even approach the idea of being a pro . Practice , research and knowledge is the keys to victory . It’s insane to know those players are defying the disadvantages of age and still being goated as usually . Skill & practice won’t dull with age if u keep up the routine. Thanks for the quality video sol and I wish anyone luck if they decide to go pro in upcoming SF6
Loved the video. I've played a very long time. And I'm finally seeing progress. But sometimes it's not knowing what to look for. I think this will help me get to next level. There wasn't all these resources of information back in the day. Thanks and hopefully I'll see you in a match sometime
I think the hardest thing about fighting games is building a mental model to know what knowledge it is to look for and how to synthesize knowledge and see mistakes.
This video accurately describes where I have been with fighting games for a while now. Always wanting to improve but hard stuck at gold rank because I wanna play online instead of actually training
Been a while sol, I agree with all that. I think another thing to account for is experience though. When me and KJstyles were starting out in fighting games watching you way back when it was just online warrior stuff. We met up and went to locals. Got mad experience while being flooded with the knowledge. Getting both is big, and both come with time. So for all you guys wanting to get better. Just keep playing, Some people grow faster and others slower. The journey makes the goal, not the other way around.
Watching this has cemented in me that I'm probably going to go the casual route, there is no way I can afford to spend that much time to practice in a video game and give up other life goals...thanks for putting this video up, gives perspective into what's actually needed instead of deluding myself that I can be good just from a couple of rookie matches per night after work.
You can take this advice and apply to many things. Career, hobby’s, TH-cam etc. you gotta sacrifice things in order to make it in certain avenues. Good video sol. Love from Spazzyrad
this is the most educational and disciplined video that i have seen of the many ways or examples of how to be good at fighting games. Videos like this are why im subscribe to this channel 👍
crazy how this is identical to what my coaches were telling me in sports, identical to even distinguishing yourself as a musician... it really seems like there's an 'art to the art'
I actually used a lot of what you talked about but with Rocket league and that's how I got to the top 1% of players in that game. I have friends that I play CSGO with and they always complain as to why we are still MGE and how come we can't get to DMG and that we should be higher, Etc. And one of the times I gave them the truth. I was like cause we don't practice. No one here gets on everyday and spends 2 hours practicing their mechanics so we are stuck here in MGE and till we do practice and actually get better we will be stuck here. They got mad and said not true we just need to play more. I just rolled my eyes and went to practice my crosshair placement while they looked up smoke line ups. Then I got top of the board when we played the next match while not using any nades. So tempted to put the practice in and solo Q and get to a higher rank and see if they will listen to me then. but with SF6 coming out I kinda want to put the time into that instead. XD
Been playing video games since 1991 and I didn’t get into fighting games until 2018 and I always asked this same exact question how are pro players so good and this video explains that. I’m a casual player I just want to be good enough to enjoy the game but I really do learn off watching pro players and learning frame data. Great video
This video reminds me of another video I can't find anymore, it was a melee video with a title something like 'why do people lie (to themselves) about wanting to be good at the video game?' Pretty much it was going over how people say they wish to be a top player but they won't do anything to make themselves such. Although all top players are different, they all do share certain things such as putting in the time and effort to get to that point.
i feel like sonicfox and daigo can get away with only playing 2 hours a day now because they have thousands upon thousands of hours of experience and methods that are proven to work. i know punk said that he was playing 10 hours a day back in SF4 and the same with Infiltration. That’s probably a little overkill but I definitely do think that you will need to put in a lot of time into whatever game your playing if you wanna be good at it, naturally.
Knowledge is power…. Once my game is delivered, I’m learning frame data, I’m practicing anti-airs, and I’m learning spacing. I enjoyed being casual, but I’m ready for that next level of gameplay. Would you say that practicing using Footsies is a good way to better my reaction?
it's literally the same as asking the question what does it take to become a champion in boxing, literally you have to make it your dream if you want to be top level
Great video sonic I’m a new sub and am enjoying the content. Especially this video. Very informative and helpful. Thank you for doing this! Looking forward to playing sf6!
And here I thought it was the tape measure that made Tokido good. :p But seriously, I remembered that vid from Daigo, and that talk about knowledge in general stuck with me. I believe he even mentioned how just a two percent or whatever small amount of knowledge separated the pros from other players, given how knowledge gets harder and harder to acquire as your skill increases.
A World Class practice everyday and training with a lot of high level players to only upgrade his abilities, but upgrade his opponents skills, like Momochi helping the new generation in enter in the fighting game world.
After playing the new sf6 I can truly say the mechanics make this game highly accessible to new players to get good far easier than in the past. It can be highly forgiving or highly punishing just by learning the basics.
I’ve been looking for a video like this for a hot min😭 Loved the video and if possible I think it would be a good series going through different ways people practice and breaking it down.
where do we start though? As a new guy: In training mode? SF in game character guide? I'm trying to think of how to start my first few hours with the game
This is a great video, its going to take time but definitely anyone can get to a top level. For myself I'm really going to take my time with this game.
So for the past decade, I have been practicing the wrong way. here I am practicing combos in training mode, only to go online and get destroyed. I still believe that there is some talent required to get to the top, but you can still get to to a good level if you practice and study the right way.
Great video Sonicsol as always and also here stuff I've found in getting better: -Always Foucus on your road to improve only and no one else's. -Follow Pros that play your main to get info about them at the high level. -Make a list of things you having problems that either being (match ups,Combos,ect.) So you can take care of them which will really help in your road in getting better. -Also this maybe not smae of what diago uses to improve his Reaction to things but a Vid from Izawsmash explaining the Excersise on to help turn any thing you want to do (a combo,imput,exct.) Into auto pilot where you just do it with out thinking. Here's a link to the video with the timestamp to he actually gets to it ( th-cam.com/video/DrBWKkO9OeU/w-d-xo.html ). -And the most important one is to have fun.
I don't know, The Will To Keep Winning helped me change my whole life for the better. I was a jobless bum who had to move back to my parents after escaping from my ex, and then after reading that book i went to school and graduated, and now have a career and work from home.
Thanks for the vid. It's a nice reminder of how much you have to want it. Not sure how Fuudo or Bonchan do it, but I find it difficult to balance having a kid and trying to get better. A lot of times, you just feel like grinding that ranked even though you might learn a lot more in a shorter amount of time in training. I really should search for more efficient ways to spend time in training mode.
Once you plateau it all comes down to reactions. A lot of good players dont study the game super deep. They just play against other high level players keeping them sharp
I never grind at fighting games. I been playing them since I was 6 with sf2 and mortal kombat. I play online with no training until I get to a certain level where I'm forced to actually learn the game. Just with good reactions in any fighting game I get to a high intermediate level all the time. To get to that high level you HAVE to have knowledge of the game. I'm gonna have Hella knowledge in sf6 because I be watching every sonic sol video lol.
Vor every fighting game I made my self a challenge. In SF6 my current goal is to beat every hard bot 10 times in a row. Which is extremely hard for me bc im not the best at using my combos right. Thats why i practice witv bots to get into situations where its fast pace and being able to do the inputs more consistently. Btw in DBFZ it was playing the Arcade mode untill everything was ranked S.
Refusing to understand a person's thought process is a strange flex when it comes to being the best. And SonicSol doesn't have the stats to prove himself.
You know, even though most people disagree with Esports actually being sports. But if you took away the label, and set a man like Sonic with the best NFL coaches, the best Olympic wrestling coaches, they would all see eye to eye. All of them say the same thing, the amount of effort you put into the sport matters the most, and I think my favorite thing Sonic said was that “you don’t deserve to stand with the top if you never put the work in.” Real shit man, I’ve heard this from all my sports coaches as well, so it isn’t BS.
Hard work determines the lower limit, talent determines the upper limit. No matter how many inspiring words you say, there will always be only one champion, and the number of professional players will always be so small
When we were kids, our teachers would tell us to work hard to be in the top 20%. But since there are the top 20%, it means that 80% of people will fail. The polarization of wealth is only going to get worse, the middle class will eventually disappear completely In the future, the world is made up of less than 1% rich and more than 99% poor, I'm glad I have no descendants I can't end capitalism, but I can prevent future generations from being slaves to capital
one quote has been stuck in my head for years "when you are coming up in the world/[anything], you will encounter alot of people who will want what you have but arnt willing to work as hard as you to get it"
all u have to do is literally keep playing don’t stop example is sonic playin the demo just to learn how to parry into dr or when ur blocking and u see that u get counter hit out of block immediately go to the lab and do it on the bot and you’ll see why and after seeing go to your character and see what options u have that are less risk reward
the type of controller you use is irrelevant when starting out. At the highest level you might think about using a PAD or Leverless controller. Ultimately its all down to preference.
In Daigo's book, he says it himself, he's not a genius or talented. Whatever took people an hour to get, takes him 3 hours to get. Daigo had to work 3 times harder than everyone else to become who he is.
I definitely agree with what your saying but some of these guys can stay at home & practice all day because this is their work for them. Making money from streaming & doing TH-cam videos. For the rest of us, we have to go out and be working at McDonald's 😂. I want to get better but I have limited time so I just play. Win or lose, doesn't matter. I like seeing the gradual steps at getting better by just playing other People.
Not that I disagree but it takes me getting hit by something like 3 times to learn. Its not like I have to spend 1000s of hours in training. Its simple trial and error. try a light punish after a move, if you get punished for that, it is safe/+ of block. Its not rocket science! The issue there is that there are lots of characters with lots of moves and especially when in SFV where online, like 80% of the time you are playing ken and ryus, it is easy to forget what the other chars can do.
I agree with everything you said except one minor factor. Casuals can be casual and still “give a fuck about the game”. I get that there is a lot more to the game than casual but so goes for competitive. Correct me if I misunderstood your point but I just don’t feel it’s necessary to down play casuals as people who don’t care enough about the game compared to competitive players. Regardless, great video!
I don't know how I'm gonna do it but I'm gonna get 4 cups from evo, 4 cups from Capcom cup and 4 cups from Redbull kumite and re-enact the surf's up scene Tank did with his ladies, no I'm not trolling, I'm a 4x multi champion in the making God willing.🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
How do you feel about the road to being strong? Let me know down below your thoughts.
I think there's one more component that one needs.
You need to enjoy winning much more than others. And not just that, you need to really enjoy that particular thing you're doing. A fighting game in this case.
If winning and losing don't push those buttons in your heart, you'll never have enough motivation to discipline yourself to do what it takes to git gud.
So in a way you need to be born that way. I think that's the real talent. Not uber reactions. Not machine like execution. Not an inexplicable gut feeling allowing you to know exactly what to do in a situation. All that can be acquired over time. But you can't teach yourself to love winning in fighting games. Love it enough to "endure" boring grinding, studying and researching.
@カジュアル勢ゲーマー exactly you need passion for what it is you're doing if you're looking to be great at it. If you're not passionate about it then it's only something you like on a casual level and that's ok too.
I remember watching my step-sis play MKX against cpu's for hours on end and eventually expressing the desire to get better at beating the harder cpus. She played the game the same way you'd imagine your mom or someone like that playing the game. Just kinda hitting buttons. When I told her maybe she should go into training mode and learn some combos and see if that would help her out, she immediately protested saying something along the lines of "No because thats what people with no life do". If you wanna actually get good at these games or anything at life you are gonna have to invest time into actually getting better at it.
That is a bit sad. I mean at any sort of skill, you practice. More time put in the more you get out of it.
At the same time, everybody's different. Training mode is an inevitable destination for someone trying to get good, but when we decide to go there and how often is up to the individual. I personally never hit training mode until there's something specific I want to practice, I'd rather grind out 10k games of ranked or player match and learn through experience
Did she ever get stuck in the washing machine?
@Loto Training mode is still an amazing warm up for players to get all their inputs down before starting.
@@sirtoxic5147 oh for sure, but willingness to actually hit that training mode and learn it like that is very dependant on the individual; I would go as far as saying it's part of the reason why the genre isn't popular
I think it comes down to who you surround yourself with. The Japanese play the game together over and over, and SHARE information. Its a way of life there, that's the difference. No selfishness, only sharing info, strategies, and competitive energy within legit friendships with high local community support.
Exactly!
Solid point
Not in America lol
It's so weird that this is a "Japanese" thing. Iron sharpens iron isn't specific to them so its so weird Americans don't do this lol
There's always been a great sense of community in Japan...
It's funny cause this applies to damn near everything u wanna get good at.
Wanna get a degree?
Wanna lose weight?
Wanna get good at fighting games?
Consistency is key. There's no secret. It's not easy. It's simple. Show up, train/study, rest, and repeat.
Personally, I'm fine being an online warrior. I don't feel like doing any of this shit lol. I have my hands full with work, family, and being consistent in the gym.
For fighting games I settle for having a decent rank and playing with the homies. I'm fine with that.
That said, I'm gonna start going to locals with SF6 so I might start labbing heavy but it's not a priority.
Even if you don't place particularly high in local tournaments I think the community aspect of meeting up with a bunch of people who all think the same shit is sick as hell makes it worth it lol. But good luck! Also props for having your priorities straight.
Oh my god wow look at how far this man has come,im so proud of you sonic keep being you
Those two-piece drills are done in martial arts. The people who like to spar only never get super good. You have to isolate variables to dial in certain situations.
When I tell you I heard every letter and digested it, no matter how uncomfortable it was to hear this, I sat and listened to every word. This is my first Street Fighter I’m taking completely serious. I appreciate this video beyond belief. Let’s get to work.
15:52 Important thing at this point, you see that Daigo "autopilots" the wrong response, jabs the fuha instead of sweep. Notice how he takes a moment, even just half a second, to stop and RECOGNIZE he did the wrong response and was anticipating instead of guessing. Probably resets whatever internal counter he's doing (10 in a row on each side?)
This is part of it. You have to recognize when you do the incorrect option and cut it out while training so it doesn't become muscle memory. Awareness is key even when doing "mindless" drills. If you find yourself anticipating or "guessing", then stop and do it even slower. For SF6 say you're practicing anti air and stuffing drive rush. It is better to be slow with the right option than it is to be fast with the wrong one. You can speed up correct muscle memory easily (think learning a song at a lower BPM and increasing tempo gradually) than it is to completely correct incorrect muscle memory.
In training that means you will probably get hit in the face by the drive rushes you're checking late, but that's better than being jumpy and trying to poke as a guess only to get jumped in on.
I had a trouble of doing the research part of fighting games. The knowledge aspect alluded me which made improving at these games hard. Watching your videos gives me ideas on how to approach the game and also learning. While I do wish to be a good player in SF6 additionally want my actions to show it. Another banger video can't wait to play a REAL GOOD FIGHTING GAME soon.
This is one of the best videos I have seen on improving in SF. This completely changed my mindset and gave me a path forward to getting better. Now to put in the work.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm a player that is really good at picking up new system mechanics and getting good at a fighting game early on. The thing I've always struggled with isn't grinding sets or matchups, but finding answers to moves and techniques I struggle against in training mode. This usually leads to my advantage slowly dwindling away as my competition learns that knowledge and surpasses me. Strive is the first game that I decided that I would make a concerted effort at labing matchups and finding my own weaknesses. That effort led me to getting 25th with Anji in Strive at Dreamhack Atlanta, which was my strongest performance since my DOA days. All that to say... I totally agree that focused effort and training can go a long way. I plan on pushing myself even further in SF6 to be a true competitor.
Want to train together?
I guess i need to start watching you more if we are having conversations like this.
Everything in gaming, especially in fighting games, competitively, is based off of knowledge. Thats why the streamer tournament with people that didnt playbstreet fighter was so fun.
I think the most important thing would be your mindset and mental strength, patience and your ability to accept outcomes. I know a few players who've labbed combos for years and know a few tricks here and there for the games they play but when they lose they get pretty upset and get discouraged when a better player bests them. I'm still a rookie but the first thing I've tried my best with is accepting my loses and just asking questions to myself "how could I do this to beat this... etc." Also like others are commenting, community, reviewing and just the desire to play your best rather than just wanting to win!
It’s tru to truly get better or even approach the idea of being a pro . Practice , research and knowledge is the keys to victory . It’s insane to know those players are defying the disadvantages of age and still being goated as usually . Skill & practice won’t dull with age if u keep up the routine. Thanks for the quality video sol and I wish anyone luck if they decide to go pro in upcoming SF6
so discipline and dedication. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you.
Loved the bluntness of this video, the emphasis on practice and persistence was super motivational. Good shit my man.
Loved the video. I've played a very long time. And I'm finally seeing progress. But sometimes it's not knowing what to look for. I think this will help me get to next level. There wasn't all these resources of information back in the day. Thanks and hopefully I'll see you in a match sometime
I think the hardest thing about fighting games is building a mental model to know what knowledge it is to look for and how to synthesize knowledge and see mistakes.
Bro this video is MASTERFULL... Fantastic lecture
This video accurately describes where I have been with fighting games for a while now. Always wanting to improve but hard stuck at gold rank because I wanna play online instead of actually training
Been a while sol, I agree with all that. I think another thing to account for is experience though. When me and KJstyles were starting out in fighting games watching you way back when it was just online warrior stuff. We met up and went to locals. Got mad experience while being flooded with the knowledge. Getting both is big, and both come with time.
So for all you guys wanting to get better. Just keep playing, Some people grow faster and others slower. The journey makes the goal, not the other way around.
Watching this has cemented in me that I'm probably going to go the casual route, there is no way I can afford to spend that much time to practice in a video game and give up other life goals...thanks for putting this video up, gives perspective into what's actually needed instead of deluding myself that I can be good just from a couple of rookie matches per night after work.
Thanks for making this video. Yesterday I was looking all over TH-cam for the answer to this exact question.
This really speaks to me. A lot of people want to be good, how many are willing to work to be good? You could apply this to just about anything.
You can take this advice and apply to many things. Career, hobby’s, TH-cam etc. you gotta sacrifice things in order to make it in certain avenues. Good video sol. Love from Spazzyrad
this is the most educational and disciplined video that i have seen of the many ways or examples of how to be good at fighting games. Videos like this are why im subscribe to this channel 👍
Huge commentary, recommended listening for all players
Thank you for this video Sanic 🙏 I can see myself coming back to it repeatedly!
At the end of the day, its about seeing the hit-confirm the moment it happens and not dropping whatever you follow it up with....
crazy how this is identical to what my coaches were telling me in sports, identical to even distinguishing yourself as a musician... it really seems like there's an 'art to the art'
I actually used a lot of what you talked about but with Rocket league and that's how I got to the top 1% of players in that game. I have friends that I play CSGO with and they always complain as to why we are still MGE and how come we can't get to DMG and that we should be higher, Etc. And one of the times I gave them the truth. I was like cause we don't practice. No one here gets on everyday and spends 2 hours practicing their mechanics so we are stuck here in MGE and till we do practice and actually get better we will be stuck here. They got mad and said not true we just need to play more. I just rolled my eyes and went to practice my crosshair placement while they looked up smoke line ups. Then I got top of the board when we played the next match while not using any nades. So tempted to put the practice in and solo Q and get to a higher rank and see if they will listen to me then. but with SF6 coming out I kinda want to put the time into that instead. XD
Been playing video games since 1991 and I didn’t get into fighting games until 2018 and I always asked this same exact question how are pro players so good and this video explains that. I’m a casual player I just want to be good enough to enjoy the game but I really do learn off watching pro players and learning frame data. Great video
This video reminds me of another video I can't find anymore, it was a melee video with a title something like 'why do people lie (to themselves) about wanting to be good at the video game?'
Pretty much it was going over how people say they wish to be a top player but they won't do anything to make themselves such. Although all top players are different, they all do share certain things such as putting in the time and effort to get to that point.
Dope video, very informative I played a lot of sf4 so I’m excited to get back into the game again when 6 releases…
saving this to my fighting game info playlist
Motivational, thank god u decided to add this video on TH-cam.
i feel like sonicfox and daigo can get away with only playing 2 hours a day now because they have thousands upon thousands of hours of experience and methods that are proven to work. i know punk said that he was playing 10 hours a day back in SF4 and the same with Infiltration. That’s probably a little overkill but I definitely do think that you will need to put in a lot of time into whatever game your playing if you wanna be good at it, naturally.
Knowledge is power…. Once my game is delivered, I’m learning frame data, I’m practicing anti-airs, and I’m learning spacing. I enjoyed being casual, but I’m ready for that next level of gameplay.
Would you say that practicing using Footsies is a good way to better my reaction?
it's literally the same as asking the question what does it take to become a champion in boxing, literally you have to make it your dream if you want to be top level
Great video, Sol, I agree 200%.
Great video sonic I’m a new sub and am enjoying the content. Especially this video. Very informative and helpful. Thank you for doing this! Looking forward to playing sf6!
Great video here man, thank you 👏🏾
No problem 👍
And here I thought it was the tape measure that made Tokido good. :p
But seriously, I remembered that vid from Daigo, and that talk about knowledge in general stuck with me. I believe he even mentioned how just a two percent or whatever small amount of knowledge separated the pros from other players, given how knowledge gets harder and harder to acquire as your skill increases.
This is one of your best videos. Your SF6 output has been pure kino.
A World Class practice everyday and training with a lot of high level players to only upgrade his abilities, but upgrade his opponents skills, like Momochi helping the new generation in enter in the fighting game world.
Community,research,lobbing, and most importantly replay study to see what works versus what doesn't.
Damn Great vid bro 💯🔥💙
thanks, I'll try harder from now on
Great video on the eve of SF6
After playing the new sf6 I can truly say the mechanics make this game highly accessible to new players to get good far easier than in the past. It can be highly forgiving or highly punishing just by learning the basics.
I’ve been looking for a video like this for a hot min😭 Loved the video and if possible I think it would be a good series going through different ways people practice and breaking it down.
where do we start though? As a new guy: In training mode? SF in game character guide? I'm trying to think of how to start my first few hours with the game
This is a great video, its going to take time but definitely anyone can get to a top level. For myself I'm really going to take my time with this game.
Sonic out here doing the lord's work. This was spot on brother.
So for the past decade, I have been practicing the wrong way.
here I am practicing combos in training mode, only to go online and get destroyed.
I still believe that there is some talent required to get to the top, but you can still get to to a good level if you practice and study the right way.
This is a beautiful video sonicsol
I'm glad you like it
Great video Sonicsol as always and also here stuff I've found in getting better:
-Always Foucus on your road to improve only and no one else's.
-Follow Pros that play your main to get info about them at the high level.
-Make a list of things you having problems that either being (match ups,Combos,ect.) So you can take care of them which will really help in your road in getting better.
-Also this maybe not smae of what diago uses to improve his Reaction to things but a Vid from Izawsmash explaining the Excersise on to help turn any thing you want to do (a combo,imput,exct.) Into auto pilot where you just do it with out thinking.
Here's a link to the video with the timestamp to he actually gets to it ( th-cam.com/video/DrBWKkO9OeU/w-d-xo.html ).
-And the most important one is to have fun.
I feel I'm almost back. I've played street fighter since you had to have quarters to play. After I figure out block strings I'll be there.
I don't know, The Will To Keep Winning helped me change my whole life for the better. I was a jobless bum who had to move back to my parents after escaping from my ex, and then after reading that book i went to school and graduated, and now have a career and work from home.
Thanks for the vid. It's a nice reminder of how much you have to want it.
Not sure how Fuudo or Bonchan do it, but I find it difficult to balance having a kid and trying to get better. A lot of times, you just feel like grinding that ranked even though you might learn a lot more in a shorter amount of time in training. I really should search for more efficient ways to spend time in training mode.
Good stuff Sonic !
Or in any fighting game in general?
Wise words, man. This is such a good video.
Truly at your best when you are using your analytical skills to break things down.
Once you plateau it all comes down to reactions. A lot of good players dont study the game super deep. They just play against other high level players keeping them sharp
This is an amazing truth bomb of a video. You just earned a new subscriber.
Also, Sonic is also not just talking about fighting games - he's talking about life as well...
I never grind at fighting games. I been playing them since I was 6 with sf2 and mortal kombat. I play online with no training until I get to a certain level where I'm forced to actually learn the game. Just with good reactions in any fighting game I get to a high intermediate level all the time. To get to that high level you HAVE to have knowledge of the game. I'm gonna have Hella knowledge in sf6 because I be watching every sonic sol video lol.
Vor every fighting game I made my self a challenge. In SF6 my current goal is to beat every hard bot 10 times in a row. Which is extremely hard for me bc im not the best at using my combos right. Thats why i practice witv bots to get into situations where its fast pace and being able to do the inputs more consistently. Btw in DBFZ it was playing the Arcade mode untill everything was ranked S.
Knowing is half the Battle what's the other half??? Action!!!!
Refusing to understand a person's thought process is a strange flex when it comes to being the best. And SonicSol doesn't have the stats to prove himself.
You know, even though most people disagree with Esports actually being sports. But if you took away the label, and set a man like Sonic with the best NFL coaches, the best Olympic wrestling coaches, they would all see eye to eye.
All of them say the same thing, the amount of effort you put into the sport matters the most, and I think my favorite thing Sonic said was that “you don’t deserve to stand with the top if you never put the work in.”
Real shit man, I’ve heard this from all my sports coaches as well, so it isn’t BS.
Hard work determines the lower limit, talent determines the upper limit. No matter how many inspiring words you say, there will always be only one champion, and the number of professional players will always be so small
When we were kids, our teachers would tell us to work hard to be in the top 20%. But since there are the top 20%, it means that 80% of people will fail.
The polarization of wealth is only going to get worse, the middle class will eventually disappear completely
In the future, the world is made up of less than 1% rich and more than 99% poor, I'm glad I have no descendants
I can't end capitalism, but I can prevent future generations from being slaves to capital
Really learned a lot from this! Time to go to the lab
are you using the standard Punkworkshop size or the ultra thin ones?
it's their first model. their second model is newer. Actually has the clips instead of the screws to hold them in place.
@@SonicSol sweet! Thanks!!! I wanna try them sometime soon! 🙏
I once swept an opponent 6 times in a row. He thought i wasn't going to sweep him. But i kept doing it and doing it. How's my mind game?
Henceforth I dub thee, MINDBREAKER!
Bro spit facts when he not being an ass. Much respect!
What is considered good is my question is diamond good?
one quote has been stuck in my head for years "when you are coming up in the world/[anything], you will encounter alot of people who will want what you have but arnt willing to work as hard as you to get it"
Big fucking TRUE. great video.
People want to be good overnight. Gotta put in the work to get there. Gotta take those initial Ls to eventually get those Ws. Learn by experience.
Better than average execution reactions and pattern recognition. It really is more of a talent than hard work.
Best video on Fighting Game so far!
all u have to do is literally keep playing don’t stop example is sonic playin the demo just to learn how to parry into dr or when ur blocking and u see that u get counter hit out of block immediately go to the lab and do it on the bot and you’ll see why and after seeing go to your character and see what options u have that are less risk reward
This video is nice, btw do you feel that with controller you can reach that level?
the type of controller you use is irrelevant when starting out. At the highest level you might think about using a PAD or Leverless controller. Ultimately its all down to preference.
Tokido can lab the cure for cancer. Instead he labs fighting games😂
Time,controller,good reflexes,sportsmanship,some trash talk.
In Daigo's book, he says it himself, he's not a genius or talented. Whatever took people an hour to get, takes him 3 hours to get. Daigo had to work 3 times harder than everyone else to become who he is.
He's committed
He got a a way better mic he saids like 6 years older now some how.
Man I’m struggling in platinum rank
What does it take to be a pro player? While it depends as long you played so good at this.
It takes the swagger to risk it all
great video
fair point
I’m gonna play world tour and learn
I definitely agree with what your saying but some of these guys can stay at home & practice all day because this is their work for them. Making money from streaming & doing TH-cam videos. For the rest of us, we have to go out and be working at McDonald's 😂. I want to get better but I have limited time so I just play. Win or lose, doesn't matter. I like seeing the gradual steps at getting better by just playing other People.
Not that I disagree but it takes me getting hit by something like 3 times to learn.
Its not like I have to spend 1000s of hours in training.
Its simple trial and error. try a light punish after a move, if you get punished for that, it is safe/+ of block.
Its not rocket science!
The issue there is that there are lots of characters with lots of moves and especially when in SFV where online, like 80% of the time you are playing ken and ryus, it is easy to forget what the other chars can do.
Daigo is 42 years old actually. Not 40.
I agree with everything you said except one minor factor. Casuals can be casual and still “give a fuck about the game”. I get that there is a lot more to the game than casual but so goes for competitive. Correct me if I misunderstood your point but I just don’t feel it’s necessary to down play casuals as people who don’t care enough about the game compared to competitive players. Regardless, great video!
Knowledge! 📖
I don't know how I'm gonna do it but I'm gonna get 4 cups from evo, 4 cups from Capcom cup and 4 cups from Redbull kumite and re-enact the surf's up scene Tank did with his ladies, no I'm not trolling, I'm a 4x multi champion in the making God willing.🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆