Very happy to know the suspension issues got better. The new looks are simple beautifully! The covers are neatly design and refreshing. Simple systems, easy to read and clear dash, lightweight overall, and Yamaha reliability ! And it rides like a sports bike! Wow I'm buying!
Cager, what an excellent test. Very good comparison from the old tracer 700 to the new tracer 7! You test many things that are really interesting for buyers. Thanks for this test that made me buy this bike. In 2 days I wel get mine. Can't wait to drive it after years of big bikes like the fjr. Have you already tested the new 2023, with the improved dash. I like the new dash a lot. It is so much more modern and links to my phone. Now Yamaha has to upgrade it so googlemaps from my phone can show on the dash like with the new tracer9gt+. Still possibilities to perfect the bike even further. I have puig screen and Shad sh58x topbox. A super upgrade! The shad sh58x topbox is worth a review also!! What an innovative topbox. My dealer said, its the same system as bmw has. I told him that the bmw cases are made by Shad and is a Shad development. haha, he was surprised but send me a message that he looked it up, and I was right.😂 By the way, were is your testtrack and the beautiful towns you are driving thru. Somewhere in Portugal I understand, but our next holiday could be in Portugal, so would be nice to have this beautiful scenery! Keep testing and enjoying! Update 20-10 23: I have my tracer 7 now for two weeks and have done 1853 km. on it. After my previous fjr1300AS this is a very good bike and I have not been missing power or comfort. I love it! B.t.w. a test of the 2023 tracer with upgraded dash, but especially the upgraded brakes would be wonderfull too. As you have the "old"tracer, you could compare it to the new brakes very good. To me it feels like the 2023 model brakes much much better then the previous model.
Thank you very much, it is always a pleasure to watch your reviews. You tell the essence of what interests the average motorcyclist or prospective buyer.
I might be coming back after 2 years or so i cant remember whether it was your video on the MT 07 or when there was something about traveling to UAE or some similar place. Happy to see your face for the first time. Loved the content as always.
From what I've seen on the 2020 mocorcycle fair (yeah in March just before the lockdown ... :)) this seems to be almost exactly the golden mean between CB500X and F900XR in almost every way - price, power and equipment. DANG! I really need to dust off my bike and start riding next year :P.
Honestly I think if you slap a couple of TKC70 on there you have a pretty versatile machine as you sit fairly upright the gravel capacity with the torque from the engine I bet it will do great!
I still ride my NC, but sometimes think of sth more sporty. However more likely as addition not a replacement. I once rode the MT-07 and loved the engine. However the suspension and ergonomics was much much worse then on my NC. If I would think of replacing, well that might be a candidate now. The look is great! Better then the new Tracer 900 ... even much better the new MTs :D
Hi i have just bought the old version tracer 700 ,although it is a 2020 model ,but with 900 miles on it and £2000.00 cheaper . I agree with your review but i figured i would put up with the suspension and some less trimmings ,but its still a good bike . the previous owner also spent about £500 on accessories ,crash bars tall screen rad guard etc so its a win for me Here in the united Kingdom
6:20 - the fairings on the new one are clearly smaller than the old one? I think the old forks can be hugely improved with an upgraded spring kit. I also prefer the looks of the old one, it looks like a classic bike.
The Suzuki 650 is a better engine. Just so you know...... :) Once you adjust to keeping its revs just slightly higher than on the MT, the v-twin is just an absolutely magical engine. Suzuki should fit it in something Goldilocks-sized, halfway between the SV and VStrom, though. Like Yamaha is doing. Also, not sure who sells Aprilia in your neck of the woods, and I have never seen you review one, but they need to get you on their new, more sport focused, 660........ You're the Internet's most enthusiastic and credible reviewer of all-round sporty middleweights. You'd probably love it. And leave no doubt about how much, either.... :)
Yamaha really must start selling this bike in North America! I’m afraid this will be the one they never bring here even though we have the MT-09 and MT-07 as well as the XSR900 and XSR700. We have the Tracer 9, but not the Tracer 7...?
Hey Cager, you've been riding your tracer 700 for quite some time now. I am interested in one but I want to know what are your feelings about traveling on tracer 700 with passanger and side cases, basically going for few houndred kilometers trip with girlfriend and with baggage. I'm not talking about going 180kph on highways, more like 130-140 cruising. Do you think Tracer 700 is capable of that or should I go for Tracer 900? Cheers mate
Forget long distance traveling with the Tracer 700 with a passenger and luggage. A friend of mine bought his Tracer in 2017 and in the first week he had it we rode to Austria. Was a 1000km trip and at that time I didn't have a motorcycle and was riding with him as passenger. It was the worst trip in my life. Never again. The Tracer 700 is a "rider's only" bike. For a short trip it's okay, I would say less than 100km with passenger. Even the 900 will not be good with passenger and long distance traveling.
160 in the back would have been plenty 180 is just overkill. They Could save the unsprung weight and made the bike even more fun and probably a couple of hundred Euros cheaper! Win-Win Oh well Cheers 🍻 BB
Having test ridden one this is not a touring bike, the seat and the small size is great for focussed quick riding but 2 to 3 hours in that saddle touring europe and you will suffer
Sorry, its still out of my price range. Please consider a review or at least a quick drive on the Benelli Imperiale 400. Maybe by the time you get to the dealer to do this they will have released the 530cc version which has been verified that it will be released soon. Thank you Cager!
@@rsq72 V-Strom has legions of fans. The only downsides are tokico brakes (I've had bad experience with in past), looks (personal), price (versys is cheaper), panniers are expensive, and panniers plus topbox isn't recommended. Interesting choice eh?
The road 4 is a great tyre for grip in wet and dry over the first 2mm of wear after that they are garbage and square off quickly, a set of metzeller roadtec01's are better and cheaper. Poor choice yamaha.
They square off, as well as turn slick and greasy, if you ride where it's _really_ hot. Particularly on powerful bikes ridden hard. But Portugal isn't Palm Springs. And few people buy Tracers to do midsummer track days in the dessert. For a "do it all bike" (as per Cager), they are a fantastic choice. Doubly so on one as light in the front as the Tracer, as the only other issue with them, can be that all the siping can make for a soft and imprecise feel on front focused big bikes like the FJR et al. In general, in most parts pf the world (as in not SoCal...), nowadays most/all tires are perfectly fine when it's warm and dry. It's when it's wet and cold things can et iffy. So it makes all the sense in the world to focus on cold/wet performance on any bike which isn't a dedicated fairweather track bike or canyon carver. That being said, riding a zx6r in Socal, I prefer Contis and Bridgestones over any Michelin I've tried....... But if I'm renting somewhere, I make a bit of an effort to pick a bike with Pilot Roads on it, over virtually every other tire on rental bikes. PRs just work, and have seemingly garnered enough of a reputation among frequent renters, that rental shops who otherwise just fit the cheapest high mileage tires they can find, often do fit them. (Unless you rent a high spec Ducati.... Those always get the high spec, low mileage, Pirelli treatment. And cost 3 times what anything else cost....)
After 4 months owning such bike,lm still in love. Really a GREAT BIKE
Me too!!!
Must be one of the prettiest bikes ever made. The fairing just looks mean and pretty at the same time. What a beautiful bike. Great job on the review!
What a good reviewer. Far better than any of the rest. Who's ever seen a review comparing headlamp performance elsewhere?
On loads of other reviews.
Very happy to know the suspension issues got better. The new looks are simple beautifully! The covers are neatly design and refreshing. Simple systems, easy to read and clear dash, lightweight overall, and Yamaha reliability ! And it rides like a sports bike! Wow I'm buying!
Cager, what an excellent test. Very good comparison from the old tracer 700 to the new tracer 7! You test many things that are really interesting for buyers. Thanks for this test that made me buy this bike. In 2 days I wel get mine. Can't wait to drive it after years of big bikes like the fjr.
Have you already tested the new 2023, with the improved dash. I like the new dash a lot. It is so much more modern and links to my phone. Now Yamaha has to upgrade it so googlemaps from my phone can show on the dash like with the new tracer9gt+. Still possibilities to perfect the bike even further.
I have puig screen and Shad sh58x topbox. A super upgrade!
The shad sh58x topbox is worth a review also!! What an innovative topbox. My dealer said, its the same system as bmw has. I told him that the bmw cases are made by Shad and is a Shad development. haha, he was surprised but send me a message that he looked it up, and I was right.😂
By the way, were is your testtrack and the beautiful towns you are driving thru. Somewhere in Portugal I understand, but our next holiday could be in Portugal, so would be nice to have this beautiful scenery! Keep testing and enjoying!
Update 20-10 23: I have my tracer 7 now for two weeks and have done 1853 km. on it. After my previous fjr1300AS this is a very good bike and I have not been missing power or comfort. I love it!
B.t.w. a test of the 2023 tracer with upgraded dash, but especially the upgraded brakes would be wonderfull too. As you have the "old"tracer, you could compare it to the new brakes very good. To me it feels like the 2023 model brakes much much better then the previous model.
This is probably the best review of this bike on YT.
Please keep up the good work and ride safely 🙏
Cheers
BB
Anyhow
I just ordered me a 2021 one in Tech Kamo 👍👍
Thank you very much, it is always a pleasure to watch your reviews. You tell the essence of what interests the average motorcyclist or prospective buyer.
Great review as always. Owner of mt07 and debating with myself about the next bike. Tracer 700 at first was so-so, now, not anymore.
Excellent review.
I want to live where you do, it looks so much nicer than England
I'm a subscriber from nc700 days, but it's this is my first time seeing your face😅 you are a lot younger than I thought😂 cheers from İstanbul
One of the best reviews. Well done.
I might be coming back after 2 years or so i cant remember whether it was your video on the MT 07 or when there was something about traveling to UAE or some similar place. Happy to see your face for the first time. Loved the content as always.
Well..I WAS set on a getting a Harley..outstanding review and I’m really excited to test ride the Tracer now..thanks!
And of course it’s not offered in the USA..
From a Harley to tracer? Those are some extremely different motorcycles.
@@silotx yeah..I’ve since picked up my 48..on my way to probably the low rider s..
Attractive girl in miniskirt breezes along in front of Cager @ 8:34.
Cager: "...it just felt, well, as stiff as it should be"
Same here! 👍😊
lol was just about to write the same thing mate!!
Impressive legs eh?
Come on @yamahacanada let’s launch the Tracer 700 in Canada!
Reeeeealy wish we could get this bike in the US 😢
I spoke to Yamaha about it at the last motorcycle show in Long Beach. I told them US riders are begging for this bike. Not sure if they care.
I want one in the USA also!
From what I've seen on the 2020 mocorcycle fair (yeah in March just before the lockdown ... :)) this seems to be almost exactly the golden mean between CB500X and F900XR in almost every way - price, power and equipment. DANG! I really need to dust off my bike and start riding next year :P.
Great review, I have missed you bike reviews. 👍👍👍
Simply,just great review, for the real world.
Still waiting on the Tracer 700 in the US.
Just bought my 2020 model Tracer 700,brand new,yesterday...pick it up next week :)
Honestly I think if you slap a couple of TKC70 on there you have a pretty versatile machine as you sit fairly upright the gravel capacity with the torque from the engine I bet it will do great!
Ground clearance would be your issue there, it has the same 140mm ground clearance as the MT-07. It's a pure road bike.
I still ride my NC, but sometimes think of sth more sporty. However more likely as addition not a replacement.
I once rode the MT-07 and loved the engine. However the suspension and ergonomics was much much worse then on my NC.
If I would think of replacing, well that might be a candidate now.
The look is great! Better then the new Tracer 900 ... even much better the new MTs :D
Looking at the T7 GT, I am also looking at the Triumph Tiger 660
Hi i have just bought the old version tracer 700 ,although it is a 2020 model ,but with 900 miles on it and £2000.00 cheaper .
I agree with your review but i figured i would put up with the suspension and some less trimmings ,but its still a good bike .
the previous owner also spent about £500 on accessories ,crash bars tall screen rad guard etc so its a win for me Here in the united Kingdom
Upgrade the springs in your fork and you'll have the same bike as this other than the headlights.
I really love you review s very real world and informative always up beat and fun great English, and very jealous of your beautiful October weather
6:20 - the fairings on the new one are clearly smaller than the old one? I think the old forks can be hugely improved with an upgraded spring kit. I also prefer the looks of the old one, it looks like a classic bike.
The Suzuki 650 is a better engine. Just so you know...... :) Once you adjust to keeping its revs just slightly higher than on the MT, the v-twin is just an absolutely magical engine. Suzuki should fit it in something Goldilocks-sized, halfway between the SV and VStrom, though. Like Yamaha is doing.
Also, not sure who sells Aprilia in your neck of the woods, and I have never seen you review one, but they need to get you on their new, more sport focused, 660........ You're the Internet's most enthusiastic and credible reviewer of all-round sporty middleweights. You'd probably love it. And leave no doubt about how much, either.... :)
2 cameras view is much better) Interesting camera angle with left foot too )
Thank you for you enthusiast review. Could you compare this also to the Tracer 900?
I wish they would make tracer version of mt03. I just got 2020 mt03 and coming form a virago - wind is an issue for me on naked bikes :)
OMG those bulbs in the showroom, imagine sitting in that all day...
This effect is due to the cameras shutter speed. We don't perceive it like that.
@@zakit thanks captain obvious... You may not consciously see it, but it does get registered by your brain and it does have an effect on you.
@@CagerOnTwoWheels I know what causes this, and no, not all LEDs blink like this.
Yamaha really must start selling this bike in North America! I’m afraid this will be the one they never bring here even though we have the MT-09 and MT-07 as well as the XSR900 and XSR700. We have the Tracer 9, but not the Tracer 7...?
I really don't like the shape of new front lights - it would be perfect old shape lights on this bike..., Cager, great review as always :)
Great review as always but shame they’ve gone for the reverse lcd. More trendy but far less easy to read. My NC750x is the same and cheap n nasty. :(
Hy, nice video, How tall are you, I am 170 cm, Did you have problem with seat heigh. Thanks
11.35_ you look good riding it 👌Yamaha really made better with this.
can you please review the 2020 model of the MT-03 quite alot has changed since the 2016 version you reviewed previously.
great looking bike and good review.
nice one big brother mt09 love it
If only they'd make this throttle by wire so we can add quick shifter and cruise control!
You can always add quickshifer, has nothing to do with throttle by wire😎
@@J2I3H up yes, down no
How about the new tiger sport 660 with 80hp 206kg and 68nm torque looks like it'll be the new king no? What do you think?
u should adjust your cam view mode
great bike bravo YAMAHA
Hey Cager! Do you think it's possible for Yamaha to upgrade the old Tracer suspension with this set up as an aftermarket option?
Best review!
8:41 Are you sure you're talking about the bike? Hahaha.
So, you have made some improvements....
MTO7 that that means tracer 700 tenere 700 and even the R7 they are exat;y the same engine for all them bikes.
Hey Cager, you've been riding your tracer 700 for quite some time now. I am interested in one but I want to know what are your feelings about traveling on tracer 700 with passanger and side cases, basically going for few houndred kilometers trip with girlfriend and with baggage. I'm not talking about going 180kph on highways, more like 130-140 cruising. Do you think Tracer 700 is capable of that or should I go for Tracer 900?
Cheers mate
Forget long distance traveling with the Tracer 700 with a passenger and luggage. A friend of mine bought his Tracer in 2017 and in the first week he had it we rode to Austria. Was a 1000km trip and at that time I didn't have a motorcycle and was riding with him as passenger. It was the worst trip in my life. Never again. The Tracer 700 is a "rider's only" bike. For a short trip it's okay, I would say less than 100km with passenger. Even the 900 will not be good with passenger and long distance traveling.
Looking at the tracer 700 or cbr500x can any help tips etc etc.
160 in the back would have been plenty 180 is just overkill. They Could save the unsprung weight and made the bike even more fun and probably a couple of hundred Euros cheaper!
Win-Win
Oh well
Cheers 🍻
BB
How would this compare to the nc750x . Would the tracer be much better?
Wow, very nice review!! But how the h* did you film that part at 11:40 ?! Looks a bit like a computer sim.
Ah that's very obvious indeed. Good job!
I hope there is an improved Tenere1200 or FJR1300🤞🏽
I think the fjr1300 was discontinued
The tenere 1200 is discontinued too
Great review! Thx 😊
hey would you buy the same again if it wasn’t for the money?
Having test ridden one this is not a touring bike, the seat and the small size is great for focussed quick riding but 2 to 3 hours in that saddle touring europe and you will suffer
Nice but if aprilia puts out a 660 like this, game over.
Nope,Aprilia is going after the tenere 700 with their tuareg (probably next year)
Sorry, its still out of my price range. Please consider a review or at least a quick drive on the Benelli Imperiale 400. Maybe by the time you get to the dealer to do this they will have released the 530cc version which has been verified that it will be released soon. Thank you Cager!
Is it me or there's not much ground clearance?
good review that Cager! Thanks
Hmm, tracer 700 or versys 650?
..or v-strom? Debating these 3 also 🤔
@@rsq72 V-Strom has legions of fans. The only downsides are tokico brakes (I've had bad experience with in past), looks (personal), price (versys is cheaper), panniers are expensive, and panniers plus topbox isn't recommended. Interesting choice eh?
Does it have ABS and TCS on this bike?
I much prefer the looks of my 2018 tracer
mirrors
mirrors swinging all over the place.Anyone else have that problem with yamaha mirrors?
So I mt07 with better suspension and a huge windshield
Did he really pass on that curve?
@@CagerOnTwoWheels I feel better knowing this now. LoL
Anybody who tried the Tracer 700 and 900? Ive had a Suzuki Intruder 800 and want a more all round and faster bike. I have about a year of experience
Why did you rename yourself? Kedron2wheels? Subtitles say that
youtube subtitles are made on another planet, which one, nobody knows!
The road 4 is a great tyre for grip in wet and dry over the first 2mm of wear after that they are garbage and square off quickly, a set of metzeller roadtec01's are better and cheaper. Poor choice yamaha.
They square off, as well as turn slick and greasy, if you ride where it's _really_ hot. Particularly on powerful bikes ridden hard. But Portugal isn't Palm Springs. And few people buy Tracers to do midsummer track days in the dessert. For a "do it all bike" (as per Cager), they are a fantastic choice. Doubly so on one as light in the front as the Tracer, as the only other issue with them, can be that all the siping can make for a soft and imprecise feel on front focused big bikes like the FJR et al. In general, in most parts pf the world (as in not SoCal...), nowadays most/all tires are perfectly fine when it's warm and dry. It's when it's wet and cold things can et iffy. So it makes all the sense in the world to focus on cold/wet performance on any bike which isn't a dedicated fairweather track bike or canyon carver.
That being said, riding a zx6r in Socal, I prefer Contis and Bridgestones over any Michelin I've tried....... But if I'm renting somewhere, I make a bit of an effort to pick a bike with Pilot Roads on it, over virtually every other tire on rental bikes. PRs just work, and have seemingly garnered enough of a reputation among frequent renters, that rental shops who otherwise just fit the cheapest high mileage tires they can find, often do fit them. (Unless you rent a high spec Ducati.... Those always get the high spec, low mileage, Pirelli treatment. And cost 3 times what anything else cost....)
Yamaha please better quality...
Your accent appears Portuguese/Brazilian but also don’t
I can’t believe Yamaha still haven’t done an EV. I guess they will only do so when the Euro regulations force it. Which is pretty sad.
It deserves such a better name than "tracer" ..