Sorry, We Need To Talk About England
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ก.พ. 2024
- England are third in the FIFA World Rankings, are the only team in the world to have reached the last eight at their last three major tournaments, and have arguably the best player in the Bundesliga, La Liga, and the Premier League this season.
So why aren't they universally considered one - if not the - best team in the world?
Well, in this video, HITC Sevens takes a look at the strength and depth at Gareth Southgate's disposal, their chances at Euro 2024, and the narrative at home and abroad which surrounds the England national team.
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The fact that _ANYONE_ still watch Thogden requires serious criminal investigation by Interpol.
I don't know who Thogden is, but why shouldn't people be watching him? Shameless sell-out?
@@JckSwanstupid
@@JckSwan Hes become a mouthpiece in the British youtube scene for dictatorial Arab regimes
@@1313tennismantrue but isn’t that just football in general nowadays!
Should we all be watching Thogden now?
Listing the teams for the 2004 euros makes me think “how the fuck did Greece win”
Well tbf that was what we were all thinking at the time.
A discipline was the key by King otto brought the players together.
If you play and keep it tight, be hard to beat and make the most of set pieces. You ca usually go far in tournament football. They also were lucky at times, but any winner usually gets lucky at some point
Luck and defense
I don't think Greece's achievement is nowhere near what Leicester achieved over a full season in 2016
I've always had this analogy, England are the Dallas Cowboys of International Football, a big passionate fanbase, usually have great players, every year they think it's their year, but somewhere along the way they always find a way to screw it up, can they finally bring it home again we'll see.
As a eagles fan, it's kills me how true that comparison is!
And disliked by everyone due to their fans 😂
Amen.
Spurs?
@12thMandalorian disliked because of their fans lmao. You probably never been to an england game. The problem is everyone wants to judge England calling them whatever they want but look at football in all the other countries around the world then try and tell me we have the worst fans. You just got to be real with yourself just say you hate English fans because you don't like English people ffs.
A lot of the fans prevent me from ever enjoying an England win, but to say the team isn't talented is ridiculous.
Same
Agreed 💯. They are hard to watch. I think one of my issues is we are NEVER bold with our subs. Even when Harry Kane is totally out of gas, he will never replace him in the 80th min to win, but keep him on encase it goes all the way to pens.... You'd never see the winners refusing to do something like that. I think it makes me resentful of Kane, Henderson etc... purely because they are rammed down our throats even when it isn't working. Especially when you could get Toney and co coming on, manager saying "go on lad, go make yourself a hero!' when my manager said that to me age 14 I'd go prime vodka Redbull Jamie Vardy on them!
It isn't when you copare it to the big national teams
@juanjoseph you smoking crack lmao. England got some of the best talent up and coming ffs. Look at teams like Spain or Germany they are no where near are level of talent atm. If you don't like England just say it don't beat round the Bush.
@@dannymcgee9899
Germany is pretty much history at this point, they don't matter anymore. They're like Hungary lol
But compared with Spain, Brasil, and Argentina.... England is mid. Most english players are either not even english or just lucky to be raised in the EPL because they'd never be brought to that league otherwise. There's a reason there aren't any big english players in the english league.
"People still watch Thogden" 😭
From the outside looking in, what’s the problem with that guy lmao
@@1draigon honestly to me it feels like kids content. it's all loud, jumpy edits, over the top reactions and all the rest
The guy is the literal embodiment of aids.
perfect for the average smooth brained football fan, i love the game , i hate the average fan@@mezombart0423
That and he has piss poor football takes@@mezombart0423
I call it toxic expectation. Expecting to win but then venomously scolding the players/manager when they don’t. This for me is the reason why we have failed to win anything yet. The English media exacerbate it, but a certain portion of England “fans” are to blame.
Edit: I think part of the reason Southgate has done so well is because expectation dropped a lot after the dark days of Euro 2016 and because he came in as a temporary manager, his role carried much less pressure.
Expectation is going to be sky high again this time because of the insane crop of talent we have. Let’s get behind our boys!!
Get in! Nice to see ya here Tom
Well said Tom 👏
I see the same issue with Nigeria. People criticizing the team after making the final of the AFCON saying that they made it to the final on luck.
It seems that people's reaction to England vacillate between "we are dreadful" and "we are brilliant". In reality, while England might be either of these for any particular game, overall they tend to be somewhere in between.
Hi Tom
How nice it must feel to speak so highly of your own national team! Meanwhile my Mexico has actually gotten even worse lately 😢
A few years ago people thought Mexico would break through but they have gone backwards
Cry me a river, this is what happens when you and America cannibalise an entire tournament so it becomes a glorified friendly tournament. Go spout homophobic slurs like the rest of your Mexican fans.
im always rooting for mexico and against the US so it has been a little hard for me these past few years too
Greetings from Germany I feel you😢😂
Speaking of poorly behaved fans OI ELLO DERE MATE
I've said to people recently that England could have won the 2002 World cup and they have acted like I needed to be committed. We so narrowly lost to Brazil. Ronaldinho got sent off in that game too.
Had England got to the final, they would have played a Germany side who they had beaten 5-1 the previous year. It could have been very different.
That's why I went to that tournament. They really should have beaten 10 man Brazil but it's the usual story...
That's not how football works. Germany were far different and a better than the team with Carston jancker up top. England the so called golden generation never won a thing because they're were better teams. Far better
Yes, we was going to win the 2002 world cup with Emile Heskey and a 45 year old Teddy Sheringham in the squad......
If my aunt had wheels, she would be a bicycle.
@CarlosDang3r WE won the group, and yet Germany went into that tournament seeded. Go look at the draw they had, then come back and tell me we wouldn't have made the final, considering we should have had their draw!
Tomori not playing for England has more to do with the manager than his ability
Yeah! How Maguire starts is beyond me, but it is what it is. Tomori should start ahead of an in form Maguire
I think it has a lot more to do with his profile than either Southgate or his ability to be honest. Stones is nailed on, and alongside him, like a lot of managers, Southgate wants someone who is aerially dominant and imposing. That's why whenever Maguire hasn't played, it's tended to be Mings or previously Dire who have started instead.
@HITCSevens The attitude and possible bias of managers is what makes talented English players move on to other national teams like Nigeria, Jamaica, Ireland and even Poland.
@@kageryu311wow. For once you’re not talking about lukaku and pogba and making excuses for em. This is a surprise
@@HITCSevens I hope Dier never plays for England again. He is honestly the biggest waste of space I can think of and being on the bench for a struggling Bayern ought to put him out of sight, out of mind for Southgate
If we manage to clone David Bentley eleven times i think England has the chance of win everything.
That would be a perfect cocktail!
@@TheRainbowThiefI see what you did there. It is buy 2 get the 3 free?
We need a couple of Carlton Palmers on the bench though.
Ha Ha Ha Oh ma ribs.
😂😂😂
Bravo, i agree with you. As a 45 yo, half french half brazilian football fan, I have felt this "competition fear" of playing England in international tournaments. The balance of New and good players, eager to win, has made it thé England game more dangerous. Once again bravo for your vidéos. Would love to see more of them on topics from the 90's and 2000's. My only critic, for thé first Time you have given too much Space for the people who do not know how to debate and how to disagree but still pay attention. F... them, next. Your fan base is not only english and should be able to see how Kane, bellingham, grealish and foden are in thé crème de la crème list of players today. See you in thé finals of thé next euro 🥂
Portugal has massive talent as well, you just look at their 23 player team and its amazing in every position.
It is.. on paper. I'd say that each Portugal team since their 2016 win has looked better than the one that actually won... but they haven't performed that well.
Having great talent and actually doing well at tournaments with them is not guaranteed.
@@sthill1993 Fernando Santos mate, very poor coach, wouldn´t be hired by Braga yet was with Portugal for years. That attack with Bernardo Silva, Diogo Jota, Joao Felix, Rafael Leao, Pedro Neto, Ronaldo and Gonçalo Ramos is amazing.
so much so that they insist on sticking with a 43 year old C ronaldo right lol
@@danep1053thats Ronaldo´s power because Jota should start and after Jota we still have Gonçalo Ramos, Joao Felix and Pedro Neto because Rafael Leao and Bernardo Silva start for sure. Mate, you´re gonna start Maguire and Henderson.
Hearing him recite the goddamn legends every team had back in the early 2000's (in this case 04) is just absolute earsex.
Yeah, how that era Dutch team never won anything is one of football's great mysteries.
@@coalfacechris1336 Trust me, as a Dutch person, I'm just as mystified. We arguably had the best team from 1998-2004 but failed to even reach a final. Though, like England, we have a rich and storied tradition of losing on penalties (losing to Brazil in '98 and Italy in 2000 still haunts me; 2014 and 2022 to a lesser extent as well).
@@niels9203Italy 2000 is the most brutal one imo, completely and utterly dominated the Italians who in some miracle fashion managed to draw it out to penalties only to steal it
@@TheTennesseeFistMachine If you know Italy, you know that dominating a game doesn't mean shit against, you need to win and kill the game, or you can just consider your domination as useless, especially these old school Italian team with ultra opportunism and realism
@@TheTennesseeFistMachine Yes, I remember turning the TV off, looking at my brother and we both just didn't get it. How did we lose to Toldo and 10 Italians when we should have won at least 2 or 3-0 in regular time?
“Something very strange happened.”
You mean like Harry Kane curse is proven to be true?
Bayern Munich going trophyless this season? Stranger things bruh....
I have a theory. A younger Kane was walking round Leicester (whilst on loan) he was shopping. A Romanian gypsy woman with a fist of dying roses tried to sell to him.
"I'm sorry, I'm simply not interested in what your selling"
After unintentionally spitting in her face with his lips, the soaked Romani lady put a curse on him. The next day he came off the bench against Watford where THAT Deeney goal happened.
Yes, Kane is cursed. But not only him. England were playing 100 years without him and what did they do? Only 1 WC(and a controversial one). So, it's not his problem.
They are just 5 points behind the leaders
@@manuelnoriega5364 They are 'just' 5 points behind... the team that doesn't lose and the same team that beat them last match. Maybe that's not much to you. And did you watch the Lazio game? Bayern are shit now, don't expect them to make 15 wins in a row, they are not City.
The problem I have with Southgate is this. He said he would only play players who were inform and playing for their clubs. That was his excuse when he left Trent Alexander Arnold.out but he continues to play Maguire who is not playing for his club and isn't even in Trents league.
The 2018 World Cup was very different because people were humbler. No one expected us to do much in the tournament. The change from 2010 to 2018 was palpable - we learned a lot from Iceland, but in general our struggles had gone on for too long. Also we had some dross in that squad - Loftus-Cheek, Alli, Rose, Welbeck, Lingard, Delph, Ashley Young, Phil Jones (though I feel mean for saying him). Southgate deserves much more respect for that semi final alone.
Completely agree. People act like he's had the current England team for all of his tournaments and it's just dumb
I'll give credit to to Gaz where its due for his leadership in the 2018 campaign, especially after low expectations from absolute disappointment from 2014 and 2016, but I'll hold the Croatia match against him for as long as I live. Surely time will and has lightened the weight of contempt I hold against him, but it will be held in my heart regardless. Don't know what he was thinking in his right mind when he kept Sterling on to try and flop for a pen (like come on Southgate, you know he's not even going to try and get a shot off) when Vardy was clearly the hero England and English Football had called for in that moment. Unless by some circumstance only known to the squad where Vardy was not match fit for the day or the week, Jamie was clearly the fox to bust Croatia's box.
@@munmunyee Vardy did fuck all for us in the same position against Colombia though. And in the Euros. Like I love him as a Prem legend but not as an England tournament cult hero
Ali and lingard at the time used to play good back then, don't forget but point stilt stand
Those are all very fine arguments, but have you considered that is just actually very funny for England not to win anything.
Underrated comment
I can just imagine in the future: "Jules Rimet still gleaming, 4328 years of hurt."🙃
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The rest of the world loves it.
kinda like Tottenham lol 😂
0:08 "Or the fact that people still watch Thogden" 😭
Cooked Xd.
Flamed
I thought he was ok, then he became a massive Qatari mouthpiece 🫤
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Can someone explain why everyone hates him? I really enjoyed his vlogs during EURO2020
I am an Argentinian man and of course, when it comes to football, I don’t feel much love for England. But if you guys have lots of expectations to my point of you it’s OK, because as far as I’m concerned England along with France are the main candidates to win the whole thing in the next Europe cup. Greetings from Argentina.
As an England fan travelling to Germany in the summer I cannot wait to see this current team in a major tournament. This is the best we’ve been in a very long time
And I would STILL manage your expectations
@@CMJamesI’m not expecting to win it, but to see this set of players on the big stage is exciting.
@@Tom-se9geGood to hear that you'll visit our country. As a German England fan I'm absolutely hyped for the euros and I can't wait to meet other England fans
😂😂😂 enjoy losing
I mean the fact that everyone is expecting Southgate to pick Henderson, Rashford and Phillips instead of the likes of Curtis Jones who’s been great since April last year, Anthony Gordon who’s been doing miles better than Rashford and or the likes of Maaino just tells you everything you need to know. I’m not English but whenever I watch England play even against countries that aren’t on the same level they play like they are the underdogs which I just don’t understand.
I'm not English also I'm Congolese South African. Considering how those two perform in the Afcon a weekly ago. Both teams went to every game as underdogs(expect Tanzania and Namibia game). England will go to the Euros as underdogs (stupid to say) especially in Germany. Denmark will have an home advantage in Germany I could say the same thing about Serbia bc a lot slavs live in Germany.
That's Southgates attitude that's followed him his entire career of being out of his depth in high pressure moments.
Could just be Southgate’s tactics. In spite of England’s attacking talent, they play quite defensive football
@@silvesta5027 Which is hilarious given most of England's players play in very high pressing teams (City, Liverpool, Arsenal etc.)
@@AZ240992 you want to do high-press with Maguire and Stones in the back? r't'rd lmao
Whereas the starting 11 in the “Golden Generation” was incredible, there was little depth behind it. Plus the mentality of that squad was every man for themselves
Thats where Southgate gets so little credit from fans and the media.
They cared more about club than country. The Club divides sound like something kids would have done not grown men representing their country
@@shadowside8433 Why should he get credit? England loses every big match vs a big team under him, except vs Germany (who went out in groups 2 WC in a row and were awful at the time by their standards) Southgate has never won a tournament game England weren't big favourites for
@@shadowside8433 1-0 up in 2 mins in a euro final at HOME! And he decides to sit it out and not get more goals 🤯 he’s a championship manager at best
Plus England played 4-4-2 for 50 years
Wow, I was really hoping the title wasn't just click bait and you didn't disappoint. Brilliantly presented argument
Mate, this was an excellent analysis. And I'm with you almost 100%. As for the "shoehorning" of players, I think the fact that you omitted how necessary good substitutes are would be the only criticism I have. Good subs have the ability to win matches
The Cowboys of International Football
That's unfair to Dallas
@@Staceyatkinson4496Nothing is unfair to Dallas
This is so true XD. Whenever either of these two teams lose they get meme so hard
Swap the names and terminologies in this video and you get a Cowboys 2023 playoff review
@@rumblebird9888They wouldn’t be nowhere near as memed upon had their fans not hyped them up before every season/world cup.
“This is our year”=“It’s coming home”
Careful, Fogden will accuse you of bullying him.
I wonder what he thinks about the people who constantly joke about him being beheaded by ISIS or something
I honestly never thought a corporate styled channel like this would randomly throw shade at another TH-camr
@@rumblebird9888at this point Alfie probably has mostly nailed creative control, so not too surprising. I'm sure the owners realise how many people would unsubscribe if someone else took over writing, narration etc.
@@philipreid2542 it is already evident from the HITC sport since Michael and even James left.
Hey man I’m sure this has been requested in the past and maybe it has even been done already but I wonder who you think would be the best 7 “Ole Reliable” players in world football right. A great example would be Fernandinho’s career at City. Not fancy, doesn’t score tons of goals, and didn’t grab bags of assists but he was so integral in us becoming the team we are now. Just a thought. Been a fan since 2017 even though I’ve had several account since the and have always loved all of your content! Thanks Alfie!
Really enjoyed this. Especially where you compared past England teams (containing Rooney, Beckham etc) to other nations at the time. Because I also look back and think “how could we not have won things with those players?” But other nations teams were probably equal if not stronger, back then.
It’s also amazing, at the present time, how players like Foden are not picked. I’m a United fan, and he’s annoyingly good. And he’s bang on form at the moment. He needs to be picked.
Having a best team on paper doesn't mean anything in big competitions. Croatia has supreme midfield and average attack carried by Perišić and also average defense but still making semi finals twice. You either have winner mentality or you don't
Then don’t watch
Croatia hasn’t won anything
you forgot in football you need fair share of luck too. the sample is too small hence it allows for anomalies to arries more. like croatia. to reach WC semis and final they won 4 penalty shootouts out of 8 KO games, 1 others was E.T and 2 losses (+1 win in third place game) which is actually pretty bad. but its KO and not a league
@@GeekyMedia havent won anything?!?! Thats rich coming from an englishman . Let me remind you 2018 - world cup silver medal , 2022 - world cup bronze medal and 2023 uefa nations league silver medal. How is that not winning? Reaching the finals of 2 major tournaments and semis in each of them! You guys have been milking that one world cup for 70 years now almost lol
@@tayloryoung9803to get lucky you need to have a “never give up” mentality which Croatia has. Fortune favours the brave my friend and England hasnt had bravery since the 60s
The major problem nobody talks about, is the lack of a winter break in England... everyone else gets a chance to breathe, while 85 % of your squad goes through the most insane schedule around Christmas.
Your team will look like it desperatly needs a break this summer. As they always do.
And yes, other nations have the same issue, but they only have 3 or 4 stars, not 8 or 9, going through that meatgrinder.
There is a winter break now.
There is a winter break now and Jude and Kane will have benefited from ones in La Liga and the Bundesliga.
@@tajj7 Damn, I actually missed that 13 day break Arsenal got. The english calender with their 20 Team league, 2 Cup Competition and at least one team advancing to the Champions League Semi Final is still much harder, then the German 18 team 1 Cup with no rematches.
And it is way too common sight, that the best players of the Premiere League have a disapointing tournament during the summer. The obvious example is Kevin de Bruyne, who scored a combined 3 goals in 22 World Cup and Euro games.
@@PassivesAbseits And? I never get these BS arguments, Arsenal have a 25 man squad, every single player is full international. They also have players like Tierney, Sambi Lokongo and Tavares out on loan, more internationals who are good enough to start for PL teams. Then they have players like Patino who is a first teamer in the championship on loan, then they have an under 21 squad, with another around 20 players and another like 10 players out on loan. They have one of the best youth academies in the country, if not the world, get hundreds of millions in TV money, champions league money, gate receipts to pay all these multiple talented players, they have people like Smith-Rowe barely getting a game and he'd be a key player for half the PL. and you are telling me they cant fucking field a decent team in OOOH two cup competitions without tiring their players? , MY HEART BLEEDS. It's complete nonsense, rotate and stop bloody complaining. Big clubs moaning about too many games is complete BS, they easily have huge squads with talented players in every position and academy graduates from good academies desperate to play and then they complain about the League Cup? it's hilarious. The reality is all these top managers just want to play their best teams every game and win every game easily. You get that Arsenal's budget is probably higher than half the Bundesligas COMBINED budget, the players in the top 6s U21 teams would be starting in most European top 5 league teams, some would probably start for the top teams in those league and they dont get a kick in PL teams.
@@tajj7 Well... the problem is, that Arsenal cant really afford to bench Saka. Here is the problem: You need at least 86 points to win the Premiere League. And that is the lowest estimated number, with the lone exception being Leicster. It is more likely, that 90 points won't be enough.
So you can't really afford to leave any points at the table. A random tie at Bournmouth might cost you the title. Arsenal basically put themselves out of the title race by losing against Fulham and West Ham. They need to play a flawless rest of the season and even that might not be enough.
The same goes for the Champions League Knock Out stage.
And in the Group Stage or the Cup Competition, the managers rotate as much as they can. But it is an undeniable truth, that the competition in the Premiere League is tighter and harder, then in any other league.
But even if I grant you your point, and the managers should rotate more. That doesn't fix the problem, Gareth Southgate will face, when the Managers refused to rotate. He will still pay the price for the Premiere League season.
No mate. You're spot on. I agree with every word. Most fans do. I think you may live in social media world too much and the people who are most active in reactions on social media are outliers, compared to 'normal' people. Most football fans know England are now very, very good. I hear the odd comment like "They're rubbish because they never win anything" but these always come from people who are not football fans and never go to a game. They just think they know a bit because football is so omnipresent that literally everybody thinks they know a bit. Good vid.
Same people who call leverkusen the best team in europe even though they have also not won anything recently (although that may change this season)
As an outsider, I actually really hope England will win the upcoming Euros. I think their squad is fantastic and filled with some of my favorite players! Goodluck England!
Murdoch Medias always attacked the England team as it can't charge you to watch it
The fans have behaved a lot worse at all times. Now you see it on England comments sections, absurd Football opinions. When Southgate watched Henderson it was branded a crime because people are too pig ignorant to understand why he would. Oh and because some Luton fan was bitter his team’s crock of shit wouldn’t be picked.
@@bens4602 shush
Still living rent free in some people's minds.
The media have been a lot nicer to them since they knelt for George Floyd
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I see a parallel to the Japan team (who is at a lower level):
Arguably the best squad in the federation, deemed losers when they don't win a tournament and a manager that is seen as incompetent, also a lot of good attackers at a similar level, who noone knows how to fit together
As a french, this time I really don't want to play England on July 10th for a place in the final. Hopefully we'll be busted out before that.
i feel the same way about france, i don't see us beating you at all as an england fan
Bruv… the French are favourites. As a neutral I genuinely predict the next 10 years of international football to be full of French dominance starting w the euros and wc
Great video as usual Alfie- nice to see a fellow England fan with that same cautious optimism I’ve had since watching my first World Cup with England in 1982 😂😂
Just thought id mention. Despite us having statistically more chances and possession than france in the 2022 world cup match. They looked a lot more threatening, confident and clinical going forward. They played with a calmness and confidence that we lacked, as we visibly rushed in possession and attack.
Lack of mental strength and that innate drive to win is what crippled our previous teams. Although I have hope when I watch bellingham. He has a really elite mentality for his age, as he matures this will improve even more. I genuinely predict him to lead us to a world cup win during his career. He has the drive and mentality not many have. reminds me of Suarez in a way
Without Suarez's short fuse hopefully.
Yes, that's a good point, England didn't look like winning that match against France
I mean also in that game Saka had Hernandez on toast and honestly it was baffling how badly he was getting fouled without consequences. He could have been mugged and the ref. would have called Free-kick to France
I thought England were way better
@@glencurtis6052 I just rewatched the highlights and we had way more chances than I remembered, for some reason though at the time I did feel like france were a bit more threatening, they wanted it more.
Every time I watch Grealish play for England or especially Man City, I just feel a crushing universal sadness for what could have been. He had a destiny as Ireland's most beautiful, legendary Captain. And I'm not even Irish, but still I feel mournful. His two current teams between them have destroyed his flair.
You've just articulated everything I've been feeling the past few years and more
Please do a vid on the 7 biggest teams that flopped. Teams that were expected to dominate and yet completely and utterly failed. I think of the galacticos and psg when I imagine this.
PSG did dominate the French league, just not the champions league, but not many could dominate that.
1-galacticos
Figo's Portugal national team.
@@stanogden8864 a euro final and a semi final in the world cup is hardly a bad result.
Good idea man!!
Not gonna lie, that email was incredible.
Thank you for this comment, I didn’t actually read the email the first time, had to go back after I read yours. Very glad I did.
I'm Polish and author od this email probably are Pole too(He had a dog from old polish cartoon on avatar). Some people in Poland thinks that Lewandowski is our national treasure and everyone who criticise him are traitor or enemy of Poland. This is strange but this is a one of form a "western complex".
Good video Alfie. I agree with the comments about the team and the squad being very strong.I have been around a good while and I believe this is the best squad since the 90s. But, we have a manager who is not good enough for the squad. We should have trounced a mediocre Italy side in the last Euro final but for Southgate being unable to influence the game tactically and/or by using the riches on the bench.
I think you could pick any of the top 30 managers in the five top leagues in Europe and they would make this England squad win the next Euros and World Cup ( language and acts/hands of God aside).
When you have a front four of Kane, Bellingham, Saka and Foden, and you have players like Rice, Walker and Stones elsewhere, you have a great chance to win something. Even with a second rate manager in charge. I say that as someone who isn't English. On paper, England have the best 11 in Europe along with France. What they don't have is that winning mentality yet, or a manager that can make the right decisions in the biggest moments.
the 2-1-6-1 formation will make England win the Euros
Yep I agree.
I am from Georgia. After my country I am England and MU fan since 1997. This England looks best for me. Key factor is Declan Rice. Since Paul Ince England never had elite defensive midfielder (N6) and that created disbalance in their play. So called Golden Generation could never play dominant football against top teams due to mentioned reason. Both Gerard and Lampard played at N8 in their prime. Both of them had two elite holding midfielders behind them in the club (Alonzo-Mascerano in Liverpool and Makelele-Essien in Chelsea). Their duo was disaster as non of them were good in doing simple but very important things for build-up. Therefore, against top teams England typically would try to score goal and immediately give possession to the opponent. Remove Declan Rice from this squad and you will get good old England :)
Tbf we had Hargreaves during that time but he was made of glass
@@Maginiesta Agree!
Spot on, I’m a gooner so I’m very pro rice but he just gives that security to allow England to get on the front foot where we are strongest
Carrick and Hargreaves: 🗿🗿
@@hijisfriend9030 Hargreaves was injury prone, Karrik was not exactly DMF. Anyway, I wish he played more....
great video and you are so right you didn't even have to point out how easily they cruised to Euro qualifications.
Same thing in Turkey. In Euro 2020, we had a talented crop and led by a World Cup hero, people expected so high that they didn't anticipate the horror befalling. Let's hope we don't get this madness expectation again.
Just a side note before you get too excited for the Euros. England have managed just 2 knockout wins in Euros history when not playing in England. We don't have a good track record when playing in the euros.
How can Southgate excuse all of this!!!! /s
That should change with more comfort playing abroad (fingers crossed).
To be fair that’s due in large part that it used to be a 16 team tournament
No one loves quoting those types of stats more than Southgate. I’m sure he’s very aware of Englands poor record in knock out games home and away
@CMJames so aware that he's going to pick the same players, with the same tactics, but expect a different result?
As an England fan since the 1982 World Cup can I add that it's nice to see us play with some possession based football, after enduring a long pass with not much accuracy style for a few years.
Excellent video as per usual!
this was such a fun listen.
"England are the only team in the world to have reached the last eight at their last three major tournaments..."
...What about Brazil? They've reached the final eight in their last four major tournaments.
Thought he didn't say world or anything specific. But also thought he was referring to the European teams in the Euros.
Argentina did as well. But let's keep disrespecting South America.
@@ShootNeutrality You're right and you should say it.
Well the last 3 tournaments for South American countries include the South american version of the euros which brazil and argentina should be in the final in every tournament and the fact they werent is worse than france or england not reaching the semis of the euros. So put your little outrage machine away and engage your brain.
A team that starts with Pickford, Maguire, Shaw and Philips, cannot be a world top 2 team… France and Portugal are overall more balanced squads.
putting pickford in this is wild
all the player u listed other than Philips are fine to start for england and pickford is actually the best gk itw when hes got the england shirt on. Portugal is a good team sure but no way you can put them above england
You obviously don't understand football
The fuck is shaw doing on that list?
@@kskhas6750 He literally is a PL fighting for relegation team keeper…
I think another problem with Foden is that even if you drop Bellingham deeper to accommodate him as a cam, Kane loves occupying the same space and does it very well limiting Foden's effectiveness. This isn't a problem with Bellingham as his profile lets him play as basically a second striker when needed. I think instructing Kane to stay further forward and Bellingham to stay deeper just to fit Foden in the team in a way he can be effective isn't worth it.
Foden has been heavily overrated recently. I think he is one of the best talents but he lacks the mental profile to dictate a game or provide something in attack which saka and bellingham can’t.
Trent is more worthwhile to build around as he actually brings something we don’t have which is instant chance creation. I’m not sure why people want foden when he specialises in half turns and transitions which arnt that valuable
@@Kzeditzzz387Foden underrated ? He’s carried city’s attack with haaland and kdb out just look at his stats
@@iNS4N3xixSN1P3R Didn't call him utter shit, he is an elite player but the notion of needing to build around player which for certain has no definite trait in attack apart from being good in tight spaces, turning well and shooting well from close range for me is crazy.
Rooney you know what he can definitintly do (traits) drive with the ball ,cross,1v1 dribbling ability. I could list them all out these are things he can do with effiency.
Foden can't always beat a man, he isn't strong enough to carry the ball like zidane,kdb,bellingham. His chance creation and decision making isn't the greatest and sometimes rushes plays which pep in the past has crtiqued him for.
Foden will become that generational player who deserves the plaudits when he is able to control and dictate games like david silva and is able to contribute to goals as he is now.
I doubt we see it before kdb leaves
@@Kzeditzzz387absolutely wild take there’s a reason he’s the man pep used to dictate play when KDB was out injured for months and it’s because he’s the 2nd best at controlling a game in the league other than KDB arguably 2nd best in the world at it not having foden as anything other than world class is madness and I don’t like Man City at all
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Yea stop the waffle he is better at dictating a game compared to jorginho, rodri, pascal gross i could probably name 20 midfielders who can genuinely dictate a game better.
Foden is a light spark a player when he gets the ball he creates and runs he doens't control lol.
Really interesting video, especially the part about fewer star players in modern teams.
I'd argue it's not that teams back then were just generically better, rather that the way modern teams function leaves less room for players to show off. Everyone's a cog in the machine now, bought to fit a role pre-defined role in a unit. There are a couple of genetic freaks around like Haaland and Mbappe, but for the most part, defenses are better organised, the space is being constantly squeezed, and so many teams deploy low blocks that most games consist of pass-pass-pass-whip it in-head it out.
So no wonder we point at attacking players no longer given space and time to perform and say they're worse. Equally, we look at defenders rarely forced to make desperate tackles out of position and say they're not as good as they used to be. And you very rarely see attackers shoot from miles out either anymore. They get it into the box, they pull it back, and someone gets an easy tap in.
England might win a major tournament if they manage to avoid a penalty shootout once it goes to penalties then you know that they're already screwed
We broke that curse recently and won 2 of our last 3. I’m hopeful that the constant penalty heartache days are gone
We also need a braver or more technically nuanced manager.
Can he give up possession to make a counter attack goal more likely?
Can he take Kane off and put someone else who can give Foden, Bellingham some space??
Cold Palmer and Toney subbing on with 100% Penalty accuracy
@IncredibleMet and can he leave Jordan Henderson out of the squad and maybe include someone who can still make an impact on an international game?
Who would I suggest? Anyone - even someone like Frank Sidebottom!
The weakest part of the england squad is the manager. Southgate makes an excellent tour director but he is too negative to manage in games.
Penalty shootout was not major problem in past decades. England was consistently poor against top teams in terms of ball possession/build-up. For example, the only real weapon so called golden generation had was set pieces and Bekham's crossing. In Euro 96 England trashed Netherlands. Since than, only in EURO 2020 England was able to outplay top team (Germany) in big tournaments. In all games England lost in penalties, they were not better team. Maybe game vs Germany in 1996 was exception....
England are fun to watch. I agree with your assessment, and luck always plays part in all games and tournaments. I am really looking forward to the Euro's and seeing this group of players and I hope we win, but even if we don't I think it will be an exciting tournament given the quality of the national teams just now. Thanks for the video.
Could you make a new video on the German national team and their expectations at their home tournament?
I'm a Finn, so I shouldn't have any incentive to even follow international football, but I do, and for some unknown reason I've taken to rooting for England HARD in the last few years. And I can't wait for the summer to champion for you again.
Go Three Lions!
Probably because the flags are essentially the same
Thanks buddy, even if Finland aren't in the Euros, you'll always be the champions of producing metal music. 🤘
@@jamesg9468 I won't be the only one. Your TV, your music, your literature, your humour, - and your football - have found their share of devoted fans here for a long time. Premier League was a fixture of our Saturday afternoons for well over two decades. Fueled the fire of our future hopes. (Modest as they may be!)
I'm not a England fan but from the outside it seems to be the manager what will stop England from winning anything...
England aren’t allowed to win. Their job is to all look at each other asking what they should do next in every single match against every single team. It’s like they don’t know why they are all wearing shorts walking around on this particular pitch of grass.
It makes absolute no sense why the English FA is keeping Southgate for this Euro with this amount of talent
@@shyone8386 Because he's middle class conservative looking enough to avoid getting much stick from press and fans. When you consider that Frank Lampard and possibly even Sol Campbell are the only real rivals in this regard, he's the best man for the job.
@@shyone8386 which realistic alternative would you replace him with then?
@@adamdickinson2894 Pep
England's Euro 2016 squad was terrible. I worked in a bookies at the time and we were given the option to pick 1 team and wear their shirt instead of the uniform as long as they were playing. By coincidence, not knowing my work schedule I decided to go obscure and chose Iceland. Who happened to play every time I was working. But got awkward when they outplayed England, being English, with an English branch manager and 1 English customer (it was a quiet shop).
Outplayed? Not for me. They beat us fairly, but they never outplayed us.
The listings of great squads at the beginning of the video are boggling. Another fantastic video overall.
@HITCSevens I think your predicted Euros XI is very similar to what we will see next summer at Euro 2024.
The keeper and the backline are spot-on.
With regards to the three midfield spots, Rice and Bellingham are obviously nailed, but the remaining slot is very controversial. Alexander-Arnold is the most talented footballer but is it tournament-pragmatic, is he defensively good enough? Phillips' form just isn't good enough. Gallagher could be the guy Southgate ends up turning to.
Upfront Kane and Saka are obviously nailed, but I definitely see Foden coming in for Rashford given their respective seasons.
Nice video, still don't think football will come home though ;)
I as an Irish man could laugh at England's constant ability to fall short at every international tournament then I look at Ireland and see how laughably bad our own football is at the moment with no sign of improvement on the horizon even managing to qualify for a major tournament would be a miracle in itself and most of the players would struggle to cut it in the championship the future of Irish football is not bright to say the least
And we can't even get a manager
If they don't win the euros or the World Cup with this generation, the English FA should be shut down.
You should watch the video he did on that dude who was in charge of the Irish fa
@@ailbeburns4564just give it Keano and be done with it
Let's remember that Ireland has 1/10th of the population, is doing reasonable in the rugby and has two traditional sports that no one else plays.
I honestly love being a supporter of a smaller national team (Denmark). Because we are a small country with a relatively weak domestic league, the expectation is always to be an underdog, even with a pretty good squad. This means that whenever the team does well the entire country (even non-football fans) really get together, because we know that we are exceeding expectation.
The problem people externally have with England fans is not that you are excited about the team being good. It is more so the ignorance and disinterest displayed towards other nations and leagues, and the feeling of entitlement towards winning the big trophies, without having any recent history to back it up.
(Though there are of course also many very reflected and intelligent England fans)
Well said
Not our fault you’re from an inferior country is it
Disinterest means neutrality, like not having a vested interest. You mean lack of interest.
The problem with the outside perception of England is that we’re not but many fans practically give fellatio to their team’s foreign players and that’s embarrassing. And it’s commonly dismissed that we take no interest in other leagues but that’s simply not true, think of how much this channel does and it’s English, Tifo do and they’re English, and there’s several like them. And it’s not aided by how anti English other nations are - one of the most anti English managers in the league (with no good reason) is Thomas Frank, a Dane.
I just want something that is bearable to watch. Which England aren't doing i'd accept it if we were winning silverware but we aren't didn't even win rhe Euros when most of our games were at Wembley
Don't want to talk political history or anything but it warmed my Irish heart to have read that England was the favored team in the WC2022 among Irish fans.
Hope you do the bizo in June, boys.
Maybe just maybe its coming home ❤️🤍
I'm French and this is for my brit friends, you have a bright future with players like Bel or Saka. I think England will win a WC before 2040. Come on!
As an Australian Socceroos fan, I'm foaming at the mouth for essentially all of the players in the video to play in our squad, that is if they were Australian. We have only our second choice goalkeeper playing in a Premier League team, that being Joe Gauci at Aston Villa (though im sure more of our players will be in the Prem very soon through promotion), plus Aziz Behich playing with Ronaldo at Al-Nassr. And we are ranked 23rd in the world at that, having gone up two fifa ranking spots after our "Okay" performance in the Asian Cup. I really really want some of your england players...
You're not doing so bad considering it's your 3rd/4th choice sport. I do miss the Kewell and Viduka days though, it would be good to see a few more Aussies. I remember Jedinak fondly
You have a highly in flated ranking ,Asian group not so good
Well maybe they’ll get convicted of something and find themselves sent to Australia 😘
Imagine if Haaland had chosen to play for England on top of all that talent.
England might genuinely play a 4-4-fucking-2 if that happened. Midfield isn't the best and two insane strikers
@@Pikachu0071000CS midfield isn't the best? England has Foden and Bellingham, they are insane mid fielders.
@@Pikachu0071000CS huh? foden, bellingham, rice, maddison, trent/palmer can also play there, i'd argue england has one of the best midfields in international football
Foden, Bellingham, and Rice (whom i'm curious why you would not include lol) are amazing, but there is in my opinion barely anyone capable of backing them up to a reasonable level, besides in Foden's position, which isn't even very sustainable as overly aggressive football is very risky in international football - hence why he doesn't start much. Rice's best backup is Phillips, who rode bench for ages before being loaned out unceremoniously to West Ham, and while he can be good on a good day is nowhere near the same level; and the same is true for Bellingham's position, where the best backup is maybe Mount? Who has his own injury issues. 442 would be able to reduce our reliance on them specifically. Alternatively a 3-5-2 so we can ignore the fact that we have not got a single good LB lol.
@@Pikachu0071000CS rice's best backup is gallagher. Bellingham's best backup is maddison. There is also ward-prowse, trent (if walker plays RB) and many others. I don't think we're short of CMs and we have shaw who I would say is a "good LB".
It's not about thinking any team 'will win' x, y or z (at least not until the latter stages). It's about thinking a team _has a chance,_ and by that I mean a significant one.
And I KNOW most sane male English men will realise that and every tournament be happy approaching it that way. The media go hyperbolic because that's what they think is expected of them.
I sympathise with Southgate. The problem is that some players simply DO NOT always transfer club form to the international stage. Bearing in mind the limited amount of games in International competitions, Southgate’s final picks has to be risk averse. He has to have experience of, confidence, faith, in the players he picks to (more or less) guarantee a performance.
Now with the added pressure to win Friendlies with the advent of UEFA Nations League, Southgate doesn’t even get the chance to look at new up and coming England players.
I remember when i was younger (1998 / 2002) saying that i don't think England will win either world cup and continually got called a traitor and similar names.
And now you get called one for saying Maguire might deserve to make the squad and that Southgate might actually be a good coach. How times change.
@@bens4602 I mean if you say anything nice or good about Man Utd let alone just Maguire to be fair :) - That being said if man utd make a mistake it's always his fault, same with Onana - they ignore all the good things and only focus on the bad.
The 'third midfielder' is an issue, tbf - I do wonder if someone slightly out of position like Stones or Maddison would be preferable. No England fan wants Phillips or Henderson there
its simple u just play rice as the only 6 with two 8s ahead of him,bellingham and one from foden maddison or grealish,then your 3 up front its how barca and city played and how arsenal play now
@@user-pw6gm1tu6q it is _really hard_ to get that to work in international football, where players don't have nearly as much time to gel, and where losing a single game is a lot more punishing than in a league competition. That's why it tends to be more defensive. I do want to see a Rice/Foden/Bellingham midfield but realistically Mount instead of Foden is what's probably going to happen (or Henderson again), just because those two while not being studs are actually decent at defending.
@@Pikachu0071000CS it will be phillips or hendo i cant see mount getting back in time,im scottish so i dont really care but im a football fan and seeing foden and trent with the talent they have not playing is crazy to me,i even think reece james if he cud stay fit wud be top 3 RB in the world,i also like harvey barnes but cant even see him on your flight,rumours he cud be on ours tho
Even with talent it’s hard to win. Think about teams with loads of talent that don’t accomplish much. For me, especially in international play, it comes down to how fast a “team” can become a Team. Meaning how quickly can they learn/relearn their game and position in relation to players and teams that they have little to no experience with. Argentina gelled at the right time and their star talents were able to shine. Like Alfie said paper teams don’t win championships, it’s their chemistry and luck because at this level we know they are all talented. Japan is/was in my opinion the best example of this. They played as a cohesive squad and we saw what “lower” quality players can achieve. Leave the egos, shield your players as best you can from the media I think England could do some real damage.
Thank you for this sense Alfie. People need to stop being so pessimistic about england. Just enjoy these good days.
No mention of Jordan Henderson until the end 😅
He does the post match interviews sometimes instead of captain Harry Kane as we know. Example France match.
One game at a time Alfie 😮
No more Danny welbeck.
The criminal thing about current english team is how badly they were treated losing to italy after euro 2020. Even for someone who will make jokes at the expense of the team - if anything because its coming home jokes are hilarious - there is no denying the team has beem consistently fantastic. As a brazilian specifically, Bellingham, Saka, Phoden and Graelish are just playing some class football. And they are all young. If anything, France is too Mbappedependent to keep up these days.
As an england fan i'd argue that mbappe isn't even france's most important player, I think griezmann is a lot more valuable to france
Unfortunately you have to remember how amazingly racist some England fans are. That became very obvious that day.
France are ovverated a lot. Even In the wc mbappe and griezmann bailed them out. Defensively they are suspect.
I don't think it really matters who we have in the team if we have Gareth Southgate at the helm
Well, I've heard people hoping England won't win because they don't want Southgate to be the one bringing a trophy home.
@@matthewlevine2159 He won't win so there seems little point in hoping he doesn't. I'd love it if he was a good, capable manager and would bring England success
@@matthewlevine2159nah. I wouldn’t want England to win because that only means the FA will push Southgate to stay longer 🤢
And I rest my case. I know very little about this topic yet was utterly entranced for the entire video.
Honestly the only real issue with England and Southgate in general is the insistence upon keeping Kalvin Phillips and Jordan Henderson in the squad as starting options, and not giving Fikayo Tomori a real chance.
I'm honestly surprised that many of of the young players (especially the attackers) with national team eligibility elsewhere don't make the switch. I'm just going to list U25 guys here.
Players on the fringe with Senior Caps:
-Eberechi Eze (Nigeria)
-Jadon Sancho (Jamaica)
-Tyrick Mitchell (Jamaica)
-Callum Hudson-Odoi (Ghana)
-Eddie Nketiah (Ghana)
Uncapped at Senior Level who could feasibly switch if a federation makes a strong push:
-Kobbie Mainoo (Ghana)
-Anthony Gordon (Scotland)
-Noni Madueke (Nigeria & the Netherlands)
-Morgan Gibbs-White (Jamaica)
-Tino Livramento (Scotland & Portugal)
-Angel Gomes (Portugal)
-Stephy Mavididi (DR Congo)
-Cameron Archer (Jamaica)
-Max Aarons (Jamaica)
-Archie Gray (Scotland)
-Divin Mubama (DR Congo)
-Jarell Quansah (Scotland, Ghana & Barbados)
-Ethan Nwaneri (Nigeria)
-Micah Hamilton (Jamaica)
-Dane Scarlett (Jamaica)
-Carney Chukwumenka (Austria & Nigeria)
-Omari Forson (Ghana)
-Samuel Edozie (Nigeria)
-Liam Delap (Ireland)
-CJ Egan-Riley (Ireland)
-Archie Brown (Jamaica)
-Dennis Cirkin (Ireland)
-Jesurun Rak-Sakyi (Ghana)
-Shola Shoretire (Nigeria)
-Djed Spence (Jamaica)
-Josef Bursik (Czechia)
-Teden Mengi (Angola)
-Hayden Hackney (Scotland)
-Ben Wilmot (Ireland)
-Josh DaSilva (Angola)
-Malcolm Ebiowei (the Netherlands)
-Ethan Laird (Jamaica)
Like Jamaica could be completely demoting Mexico into the mid tier of CONCACAF if they were able get just 50% of the english players with Jamaican ancestry to switch. Scotland would be a surprisingly deep squad with a real future. Ireland would get some much needed depth and the biggest nations in Africa (DRC, Nigeria, Ghana) would gain some quality depth and some hot prospects.
A lot of those guys have a chance to go on to play for England, a lot of them are like in their teens or early 20s, like I think Livramento is good enough to play for England even though lots of competition at right back, Liam Delap is only 21, he could easily follow a path like Kane or say Toney, start banging some goals in the championship, get the right move to a PL club and he could be an England regular at like 25 say. Once Kane goes the striker spots are more open as well so lots of chance for a young striker to breakthrough over the next 4-5 years as Kane ages out of the team. Left back and centre back spots are up in the air. You are more looking at guys that are already like 24-25, in positions crowded with good players, like yeh Hudson-Odoi can;t see him playing for England again though I think he turned down Ghana to go to the World Cup IIRC. I suppose at the end of the day a lot of these guys are born in England, brought up in England, speak English, and probably grew up supporting England and idolising England players as kids, so to suddenly switch to a country they might only have a loose connection with through grandparents or one parent etc. might not sit well with them mentally. I mean are some of these players who switch not just really playing international for the sake of it? rather than being passionate about it and desperately wanting to give their all to their country, because it is not really their country, I don't know. I think personally if I was a pro footballer I'd struggle to be that motivated to go play for Ireland or Scotland or something, I'd probably just prefer to have summers off and support England in tournaments.
@@tajj7 But I think it would be as big of a deal or as massive of a switch for guys to go from England to Scotland, and especially England to Jamaica (although Jamaica as their own weird issues with duo-nats). Most English-Jamaicans have really recent ancestry and are especially proud of their heritage. The only thing stopping guys from switching over to Scotland at least in my eyes is that Scotland will always have a tougher road to qualify for major tournaments especially the World Cup.
I mostly agree with you but people please, do watch Tomori's Serie A performances before hyping him up. The guy is error-prone and unreliable.
Day 16 of asking a "What Went Right for Stade Brestois?" Video
This is currently, by far, the best season in club history, one which could result in their first ever qualification for Europe in over 70 years of existence. There's a fascinating story to tell, from going bankrupt and slowly climbing back, to various great names that played there such as Ribéry, Makélélé or José Luis Brown, to the story of the Brest president going up against the Colombian drug cartel. Plus, you can have a lot of Brest related puns.
I'm wondering, I have seen a lot of people want Southgate out. But realistically, what upgrade can England have ?
They want xabi alonso 😂
Tuchel has shown interest in the past
Jose Mourinho potentially as well
If Newcastle sack Eddie Howe he’s there as well
video is spot on well done Alfie.
As a Brazilian fan, I started really watching football in 2021, and the 2022 WC was the first World Cup I watched really knowing something about the other nations and other leagues outside of the Brazilian one, and the England squad was by far the one that scared me the most, I knew and watched every player in every position and knew they all were world class.
I remember myself telling all of my friends that England would smoke the shit out of Brazil if they faced each other, and I really think that it would be the real case.
If it wasn’t by that rare Harry Kane penalty bottle, although England got no Mbappe, they could probably really give Argentina a hard time at the finals.
I mean I hate to say it, but as an outsider looking in, I’d say England’s greatest strength is their weakness. The sheer depth they have at their disposal almost makes Southgate return to his trusted XI each time, because the factors for error are much less likely. As much as I think the likes of Gomez, Guehi, Branthwaite, and others deserve to be ahead of Maguire, Maguire is an experienced and trusted lever in Southgate’s machine. I think the problem for England is that while Southgate can elevate your floor, he does have a ceiling when it comes to international football. And you simply can’t afford a margin like that to creep in when you’re up against the most stacked national team of all time like France, a tenacious Croatia, and up against a tactically comfortable Italy. Yes, England have been knocked out by the top teams of most tournaments, but I feel like England’s setup hasn’t aided either. Again, while you rarely get embarrassed by Southgate, he lacks the tactical nous to outplay a Deschamps or a Mancini. If I were England I’d think of asking Howe if he has any plans after Newcastle.
Very well put.
He's got us out of our rut. I even think in general the media (myself and my boys which is anecdotal) are much more behind the team than we used to be.
We had to strong arm him into bellingham, Abrahams & Sancho (who was top tier at the time).
One thing other nations have over us is playing in multiple nations. For us to win he really needs to be a bit more of a maverick and bring players like tomori (and maybe even RLC) in.
The reliance on Kalvin Phillips, Maguire & Mount will be to our detriment once it gets to knock out phase
Maguire is a better player than every single one listed. Only Branthwaite looks like he could one day be as good. That’s more a compliment to Maguire - against unprecedented hate, he’s consistently been a solid and at times excellent defender for United.
Howe is of more service to England managing Newcastle players week in week out than the England team.
I wouldn’t replace Southgate - and while your point is better explained than most, I can’t help but feel you’re riding the anti Southgate train rather than knowing we need to get rid. I view him as a valuable asset to the side.
Also Southgate is what we need - a coach not a manager. The best 2022 WC manager was Flick and 🇩🇪 went out in the group while 🇦🇷 coach had never managed before.
As a German, I really love the English national team. I'm a big supporter and can't wait for the Euros. 2021 made me Fall in love with football and especially the English.
All my friends hate me for being an England fan.
You must be a masochist if you support England… for clarity I am an England fan who tries not to get carried away every tournament. I think we have done brilliantly in every tournament since the 2018 World Cup.
Do you remember the pure hatred that spewed out when England lost the Euros final in 2021? Honestly if that was England fans doing that to any other team it would be national news…
A german who likes england? Defo never heard that before
@@pratosaurusrex1128 I remember, I was ashamed when I saw this in 2021. But I think the English have some really good and passionate fans and I also like the history of the England team. And "Three Lions" is probably the best football song ever written.
I'm not a masochist, I just like to dream...
Let's hope we'll see each other in Germany in summer
@@ranzroffel2692 I’ll probably get flack for this but it is strange seeing Germany struggle recently at international tournaments. I hope you guys can come back stronger soon. Now England are getting better at penalties I want a rematch against a strong German team 😄😅
@@pratosaurusrex1128 Yeah, trust me the atmosphere here towards our national team is so strange. I hope the best for them, but England is my team. I could never really identify with the German team at all.
A match against Germany would be the best fixture for next euro
13.50 😂 that search bar 😂
Genuinely think a graph of coverage of the squad (and wags) in Hello Magazine against the squad’s international performance per year since the 90s would be pretty informative.
Who do you think is the best player in the Premier League? Idk if English players make the top 5. Haaland. Rodri. KDB. Salah. VVD. Allison. TAA? Foden?
how has allison made that top 5 then
I think he meant Saka
I think foden does
Kane would've made the top 5 if he were still playing in England
Right now best player in the PL it's Salah no question
@@greeze4685Because he's the best keeper in the league?
Absolutely spot on. Unfortunately there’s a lot of anti-English hate out there, even within England. Not from me though! 🏴
The one thing I would say against his video is yes English players are doing well abroad, and list all the achievements you want but they didn't earn those on their own. You're only as good as the team around you. We have had many good individual players over the years but once you get them together in an England team it falls apart. As an England fan I expect to see them in the quarter finals at the least, anything else is a bonus but I don't see us winning. Maybe someday they will surprise us but again individually we often have great players but often fail to perform as England.
I think the depth is the key thing. Although there were some great players between 2002 and 2012, there was little behind them. And when you look at the important matches in this time there are always at least one or two players missing from injury or suspension. There was no adequate replacement for Rooney for example. But now, even if Kane or Bellingham got injured, the replacements are still top quality. Maybe the only one with no good back up is Rice
I am Brazilian, so talking the perspective of an outsider, it is clear that england is a contender in any tournament they dispute nowadays, for me they are top 2 in the world, only behind frandce, but still, they have all the talent to beat the french, lets see what happens in this years euros
Fully agree. If anyone other than England or France wins the Euros it will be seen as an upset. Those two teams should on paper should be wiping the floor with everyone else.
Portugal is better than england cmon@@WalkerIGP
@@boogy1033Nah, if you look at the overall squad as in both the starting 11 and the bench, England is stronger. England's main weakness right now is actually the manager, too conservative and defensive to make proper use of the attacking talent England has. They are somewhat shackled under Southgate.
Are u serious ? Portugal attack is more depper than England, and if u want to talk abou the Gk and CB's none of them would make the portugal squad, if a team who have Pickford, Maguire, Shaw and Henderson in their strating squad thats not a world class team, only 2 players would start in POrtugal team and thats Bellingham and maybe Kane@@WalkerIGP
@@boogy1033We will not agree, so let's end it here. Time of course will tell who the best team is at the Euros.
I don't think Kalvin Philips will start, I would be less surprised if Henderson started than him, but I would like to see Loftus-Cheek to be honest.
Loftus Cheeks success with Milan has been playing higher up the pitch, no way he's getting in the england squad there and his defense is pretty lackluster. Tbh though I'm not sure why the England coach is sooooo committed to being such a defensive team, when the strength of the team is in the midfield/attack. I don't see much changing without a manager change tbh. Southgate is SOOOO similar to my US teams coach in Berhalter. Will get them to play at expectation, but they seem to strangle creativity out of the teams. Imho England should be riskier in attack and use Tomori/Stones as the CBs that can cover playing higher up the pitch.
@@TheLaughingMustache-oh5ff I just think that when you have Declan Rice, you can afford to play someone like him, and stick him a bit deeper, his defending isn't really that bad. To be honest I would even rather Conor Gallagher over Jordan Henderson or Kalvin Philips. It's not as if England are massively short in midfield options, you could even stick Stones and Rice in a double pivot, but that obviously won't happen as it would require a full system and formation change. Kobbie Mainoo is exceptional but he is probably too young and inexperienced, he just won't get selected anyway, if we are being honest, so I hope that it is Gallagher of any of them.
I'm happy to give Southgate 2 or 3 more tournaments, he keeps taking us to the later stages including a final, so we always have a chance.
But I don't like the notion of so-and-so being nailed on for the starting 11 or the squad. Obviously certain players are barring injury guaranteed a place. But there's still 3 months more footie before the Euros and I'd like to think that any topflight English who have a sudden burst of amazing form could have a chance of making the squad, the door should always be open!
i agree to a point , injuries permitting .our players play a lot of tough games and many will be carrying knocks. Any team no maqtter how good need some luck, so fingers crossed . Can't wait.
The england xG you mentioned vs france in 2022 world cup is mostly penalty xG, england had less non-Penalty xG, which is more relevant if you are trying to measure if a team was dominant
I would suggest that if you are trying to get a picture of a game which includes penalties, including penalties in the xG statistics will give you a better picture of how the game went that not doing so.
@@gyorkshire257Yes France created two legitimate goal chances from open play whereas England got two penalties one of which was questionable and created nothing from open play. The opinion that England was better than France was massively false. So no xG doesn't tell the sorry, non penalty xG does show the full story France where much better and England had to rely on set pieces as usual to be competitive and still the opinion is held they have a world class attack which is bs
@@maximusdecimusmeridius9359 England do have a world class attack tho?
Unless Kane, Saka, Foden etc are not world class players?
@@gyorkshire257 Penalty xG is so extreme and comes from sufficiently rare events that including it makes it a much worse indicator of dominance. It's the correct metric for measuring finishing/ignoring shooting randomness, but non-penalty xG gives a far better sense of which team threatened more.
To illustrate, I'm going to show how even a team with ideal conditions (massive dominance and lots of pens) would still have their xG fail to accurately reflect their dominance as well when pens are included. This is a bit long, I tried to be as clear as possible which led to a lot of detail. Also I was having fun writing about it lol.
Man City won the most penalties in the Prem last year, 10. Assuming this is equal to their expected number of penalties (it's most likely a mild overcount, because topping a leaderboard for a volatile stat usually means positive variance, even when they should be expected to have the most based on quality) then at 0.8 xG per pen, that's 8 xG total, or around 0.22 per match. Their dominance is at least roughly similar throughout most of their matches, and so would predict a narrow range of penalty xG that's "deserved" in each match, when we only consider dominance rather than specific incidents: I'd guess there wasn't a match all season where that value would be above 0.35. As a result, in any match in which they do get a penalty, their xG would be overstating their dominance by at least 0.4, and most of the time it would be substantially more.
On top of that, non-penalty xG includes a huge chunk of the signal from winning penalties, because better teams are both more likely to win penalties and more likely to have more non-penalty xG. With enough data, you could run a regression on this, and I think you would get a ridiculously high correlation between the two - winning penalties is a distinct skill, but not typically a particularly extreme one afaik.
(The corollary of City's - or another top team's - dominance being the least over-measured when they get penalties is, of course, that it's the most under-measured is when they don't, but this has a smaller maximum effect on a given match, because penalties occur less frequently than once every two games: if City play four games and get one pen the value is .2 too low 3 times and .6 too high once, while for a 1 penalty per 10 games team it would be .08 too low 9 times and .72 too high once. Obviously the gap could be greater with multiple penalties in a match, but it would still be lower for a better team than for a worse one awarded the same number)
2.59 vs 1.32 and that’s all penalties? My days.
im an aussie so my football opinion is trash, but i believe england are missing 1 world class centerback (to pair stones) and an elite level gk, pickford is good but would he even make the top team's sub gk's? other than those small flaws this current england team is crazy, but will probably get knock out on pens in the semis to idk... Croatia?
i'd say if he had more experience playing for england konsa would be a great CB option
And the biggest irony of 20 years ago is that Greece actually won it.
Great video, and you make some excellent points. But you said it best when you mentioned how it's Southgate's job to find how to put his best players on the pitch. Foden is clearly an elite level world talent and although it's fair to say Bellingham is the 8 he would play, with a little bit of technical nouse, a system can be created that provides that balance.
Southgate, taking a page from Pep's book, could make a system with two 8s, and two wingers. It would require a bit more defensive fragility, and likely Alexander Arnold, Kyle Walker, Chillwell, or Shaw would have to give up their spot for a someone who might not be as good (Tomori or Colwill) but will be able to play both down in the full back position but also centrally.
Hence why a lot of people thank Southgate for what he is done, but call for him to be removed for a manager with better tactical accumen.
I’m Belgian, I only believed we could win the 2018 WC when we got through to the semi-final. Noone in Belgium ever expects out national team to win a competition despite consistently being one of the strongest teams in the world. The only expectation on our team is that they reach the quarter finals. This means that there is much less criticism from the media here in Belgium and I believe that that’s what makes us a more solid team. There isn’t much blame thrown around because we should be happy we got this far. I believe we were somewhat cheated out of the 2018 WC final because the refereeing in the semi was very favourable to France but I’m still very proud that we managed to come 3d place. All of Belgium was celebrating and the team even met the king and celebrated at the Grand Place in Brussels.
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