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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025
- #liveatc #airtrafficcontrol #flightincident
August 19, 2024
Delta flight 2346 from New York City to Miami takes off from LaGuardia airport and has leading edge flap issue on climb out. After some initial troubleshooting they decide to divert to JFK's longer runway because they are overweight for landing.
00:10 Cleared for takeoff
01:49 Initial problem
06:38 An emergency is declared
09:01 Having trouble losing altitude
10:57 Cleared to land
11:25 On the ground
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Top shelf coms. Give that pilot an award and give the controllers raises. All of this done in the most crowded/complex airspace.
this is very scare, my cat sad
@@grahamcracker659rip ur cat💀
Yes. I live only miles from NWR International. On any given day/night the flights are around the clock.
Wow, how about that Delta pilots radio work! Smooth and clear! I think it’s the best I’ve ever heard!
Pretty professional -- really reassuring.
Legend says they’re still turning left heading
This is as good as it gets from both Crew and ATC - AWESOME example of calm and helpful comms!
Clear, concise communication on everyone’s part. Pilot of D2346 was tremendous.
Excellent crew and ATC.
Crew should get a round of applause. Fantastic job
The First Officer is one completely saturated/ busy individual ! Comes thru loud & clear -
Wow ! Excellent job by a very busy crew in a very busy airspace - Guy was talk to about 6 people
At once and kept it tight and moving smoothly ! Very professional crew -- impressive !
Well done by all the people involved . Good job +
What a new way to get to Kennedy from LaGuardia though.
The lengths people will go to avoid NY traffic 😭
taylor swift be like
@@kenfern2259 LOL.
It gives "AirTrain" a whole new meaning! lol
Ed Bastian needs to have these pilots over for a nice dinner at his house. Beautiful work.
Very professional, all!
Calmest emergency declaration ever.
Hair raising yet in control. The focus and concentration by all parties involved is amazing.
Pure quality
Short & sweet = well said sir ! Got that quick - 😊
From emergency to landed … 5 minutes. Pretty cool.😊
Probably the fastest trip from LGA to JFK ever!
The map is rotated by about 20 degrees, which makes the video a bit annoying to follow.
Thanks for your feedback.
LOL see my comment, similar to yours. I'm a retired Navy ship driver. The mismatch between ordered and displayed courses was driving me bananas 🍌
No it isn't, and one look at a map of the NYC metro area will show you this is correct.
@@noggin6870 yeah, you are right. I made a similar point in response to @jmWhyMe's comment, below. Something doesn't add up, but it isn't the map orientation.
This is basically the exact same orientation that FlightAware uses. Someone else said it's magnetic vs. true.
Ever decreasing circles?
Its gotta be surreal when asked for soles on board and remaining fuel for a pilot. The question that confirms its real real
I would fly with these pilots for sure !! Aircraft malfunction and they handle it like PROS !
I like the way they do business ! Delta 2346 is good .
Anyone know what flap setting this probably was that it was stuck at, for them to be limited to 230 kts? Maybe 5?
Apparently it was a slat that would not retract.
@@Q1776QNo bueno. Good call on returning back to the airport
Im imagining Benny Hill music playing as this takes place😂😂.
I hated the show but loved the intro music, lol.
What kind of an aircraft was Delta 2346?
Boeing 737-832
All of the avgeeks on the plane waiting for the slats to retract: 👁️👄👁️
Fantastico
Bravoooooooo👏👏👏👏👏
...flew over my house on the first loop.
Why didnt ATC just put them in a standard holding pattern?
Yeah I kinda wondered the same. Makes for zero workload on both sides. Speculation? I'd guess the published holds are way lower by like 10 or 12,000 feet lower. In a plane that isn't properly configured, you wanna keep some altitude. Just a guess.
@JH-qqqqqiim They could have selected “present position” on the hold page of the FMS with 10-mile legs easily and quickly. Just saying…
i am just glad it didnt fly by over my neighborhood
They flew over mine, twice.
Why didn't they just go to Newark Liberty?
They need to go to an airport that can service their aircraft. JFK is it.
people in jersey dont want to use newark
Either your map isn't directionally true or your simulation is way off because the displayed courses never match the ordered course. 180 ordered - 160 displayed as an example.
@@justinbayse4417 see the other comment. The map is skewed...
@@justinbayse4417 I pulled up a map of the area, and the map is indeed oriented correctly. However, the difference between headings and courses would not be consistently 20-ish degrees. A headwind/tailwind would have no impact, while a crosswind would have an impact that varies as the angle changes. Something else is going on.
Regardless, it's annoying.
The map is oriented to true north and ATC headings are referred to magnetic north which differs in this region by about 13 degrees from true north. 180 magnetic is about 167 true. The course flown may not be exactly as directed due to wind.
@@Tom_239Wow 13° declination is a lot. But you are correct.
Its due to magnetic variation. This is what ATC scopes look like. A true west heading is somewhere between 280 and 290.
How many passengers puked on this friendly flight ? ✈️ spin in’ left turns 😮 🥵🤢🤮
This was not an emergency over NYC.
Why does ATC always ask how many souls on board?
They are required to ask souls and fuel in case of worse case scenario and for the rescue.
If the worse does happen, they at least know how many bodies to expect among other reasons.
Fuel in pounds for how bad of a fire and environmental impact but again also time in the air.
Fuel in time for ATC and other teams to know how much time they have to effectively plan.
so they know how many to pray for, Jebus offers a discount package at all airports
Because they sometimes carry human remains in the cargo hold.
Souls tells them how many live people are on the plane.
@@sholomschonfeld2836 Exactly. Although not common knowledge, airlines often carry corpses and other human remains. In the event of a worst-case outcome, rescue teams want to know how many living bodies the flight started out with--no sense in trying to rescue a corpse that was already dead when the flight originated.
Was this a Boeing aircraft???
Ah yeah. Which suffered a very common failure in nearly any type of aircraft😀
So NY put a plane in front of them for takeoff and would not let them have the right side due to traffic landing. What happened to the emergency where the pilot does what is needed. Keeping the plane up there longer could have had a different outcome. Good work Delta.
MCAS?
MCAS has nothing to do with controlling slats or flaps, and isn't even present on the 737-800, which is the aircraft that was involved here. MCAS only exists on the 737MAXs, which Delta doesn't even fly (yet), and is a flight characteristics augmentation computer that adjusts the elevator trip based on power inputs. However, no US airline was equipped with the MCAS options in a way that would have caused a crash like the ones that happened in Africa and Asia. Those airlines ordered cheaper variations of the airplane that allowed MCAS to be controlled by just one single source of airspeed and angle of attack data, whereas the US airlines that ordered MAXs all had chosen the option to have MCAS need 2 input sources.
@@tomcatpilot1they ordered cheaper versions… really? Did you know united had an MCAS nose dive as well which the pilots successfully recovered from?
Push the down button
Let me guess...Boeing.
Yep 737-832
Oops....
Just another BOEING B737
That's an ill-informed comment. Delta's Boeing planes are actually quite old and predate all the problems that Boeing has been facing these past few years. What's really remarkable is that Delta declared an emergency in the first place inasmuch as they tend to lead all the domestic airlines in maintaining their fleet. United, American, and Spirit have emergencies on the daily, but rarely does Delta declare one.
Instead of wasting the hole flilght and $$$$$$$$$. Can they just keep going to half way or Atlanta at 220 knots to at least complete half of the flight? Those passengers will be delayed at least 4 hours.. then board another to start the flight all over .. Maybe 10 hours delayed.. By that time they could be in Atlanta or Savanna at least and another airplane waiting for them to board there. A delay of 2-3 hours only.
Soooo staying within a few mile radius of a commercial airport with a wounded aircraft with mechanical issues that easily could spiral into a situation where a heavy approach is the better option than continuing a fuel burn makes a hell of a lot more sense than continuing the route to the original destination and hoping that an airport is close by if the mechanical issues escalate. Think about it
yeah ok mister pro keyboard pilot, i rather waste 10 hours alive than taking a dive midway to atlanta
@@peterc.marketos How come a non retracting slat will "spiral into worse" ? Explain that. When charter pilot i had a baggage door opened on a Cherokee 6, cargo was secured with nets. I keep going for 1.2 hours with that noise and completed the flight.
Pilots should not be that fragile.. Duhh !
I have seen 2 engine airplanes flown on one for an hour with passengers so they could reach a better airport closer and not land overweight. Brave captain. American Airlines.
@@renegadonyc Oh poor girt.. LOL>.