Ata mm nashangaa, ni me pigwo ni butwaa..still trying to digest it pole pole mpola mpole.... Lattiff, kwani ww ni bazuu kiwango hicho? I respect, highly so the intellect of this panel, I might have communal, political and commercial interests at the same time but! Erick? The young man earns that space on merit, a person who can listen is a person on his/her way to wisdom.. Nelson Havi is an intellectual superpower a good match for the panel of Spice FM including snr mwalimu Muga..ogopa mwalimu or else... So is the president of Kenya HE WSR, with regard to intellect and stamina..
Great show the hot seat crew and President Havi! If only we made a sacrifice to do what we are expected of! The world would be a habitable place by all!
My thoughts too. They are the worst. In fact a dare say they are the ones that instigate the bribery. It is lawyers that do the dirty work for their clients. Sometimes they turn on their clients too
Ruto is one guy who understands the Kenyan systems very well. Buy them, and they will forever do your bidding as long as they are in those positions. This explains why the bicameral parliament and the judiciary are ineffective.
Nelson Havi should have been an actor 😂😂😂 ... Regarding the subject matter, most of the people I know don't trust courts ... Alot of people think taking things to court, even local lower courts, is a waste of time ... Unless you are willing to spend money to push your case in a direction.
I support the call for Reforms in the judiciary. The judiciary is entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring constitutionalism in the governance of a country. The kenyan judiciary needs to tell Kenyans who is in government and who is in the opposition just to start with. The registrar of political parties needs to tell us which political parties are in government and how and which political parties are in the opposition.
Seriously??? Havi did CJ specifically state a judge's misconduct , incompetence etc can NOT be challenged???? If yes, when & where did CJ say that as from where i sit, judicial judgement independence is absolutely essential & necessary for objective judical operations. It protects judges from interference from external & even hostile internal forces. But how does Havi jump to the conclusion that it AUTOMATICALLY means judges cannot be held accountable for theft, corruption, bribery & judgements literally contrary to the law & the constitution ? It does not add up that the CJ whom Havi confesses is NOT corrupt would then somehow support corrupt & incompetent judges. Let Havi & company following due process REMOVE judges as the law allows. Anything else sounds overtly personal & accusations against CJ totally UNjustified.
1. HAVI is Ruto's mouth-piece and so is Ahmed Nassir. 2. This group has a role in calling out Koome to resign and therefore according KASONGO AKA William Ruto to choose a CJ of his liking. 3. Raila Odinga, Uhuru Kenyatta & Ruto are involved in the long cone game or shrewed preparations of RIGGING elections in 2027......... The old politicians, most of the MPigs are scared Kenyans will send them home.....However, Koome should be called out about Corruption in the Judiciary for her to sanctify the third arm of Government: KK aligned advocates like Havi and Ahmed Nassir should'nt be the ones doing do, Kenyans will not trust their motives.
Why not automate judiciary charges, have wanjikus pay thru phones, get full registration details send back with court name, time, amount, judge to dispense the case, maximum duration etc etc and all those details captured in CjKoome and JSC portal so that at a click of mouse, u can see judges dragging cases and having them sacked?
The problem with Havi is that he is a bag of contradictions .The other day, he was congratulating one of the vilest characters in Kenya's public life for being appointed CS in a ministry he holds zero competence to head. He also represented the same character in a process where an innocent girl was murdered, and the issue forcely turned into a road accident where the fellow walked away scot-free. Havi and Ahmednassir could be hijacking this matter.
At his age he new who Kasongo is. Kasongo has been himself since time in memorial. I wonder how he followed Kasongo. I'm younger than Havi but I know Kasongo better.
@@Bena932Just accept that Havi Arap Che Guevara created the mess and he can't escape it. It's hard to forgive these people if they worked so hard to put a useless man like Ruto into office.
Am doomed 😢😢 niw that i have a case against a wealthy employer does it mean he will bribe the magistrate and the labour case be ruled against me😢😢😢😢😢 Oh God
Unfortunately kenyans if the finds them capable of any case and judged accordingly "" then thesame people calls the court corrupt .but if they wine the court is good. Kenya you are trouble citizens are more corrupt than government believe me or not period
What do you mean? You wanted equality, you were given, you cant perform. Now women are more employed than men, you are still complaining. What do women want??
Kenyans I feel that you knows everything going on but this problems leave to appeal by high lawyers knows what they talking about please this its they jobs let them to fix our country judges. That big judge very useless really she doing nothing justice ⚖ it's corruption very high in kenya. I gree with this lawyers.
Nelson you defended the government on Gachagua impeachment and now pretend to blame the judiciary on letting kenyans down while you also played a role in surbotaging justice.
Im yearning to hear more from this brilliant lawyer
Eric Latif has a brother 😊 in spice
Can't make this sh*te up😂
Ata mm nashangaa, ni me pigwo ni butwaa..still trying to digest it pole pole mpola mpole....
Lattiff, kwani ww ni bazuu kiwango hicho? I respect, highly so the intellect of this panel, I might have communal, political and commercial interests at the same time but!
Erick?
The young man earns that space on merit, a person who can listen is a person on his/her way to wisdom..
Nelson Havi is an intellectual superpower a good match for the panel of Spice FM including snr mwalimu Muga..ogopa mwalimu or else...
So is the president of Kenya HE WSR, with regard to intellect and stamina..
People who wear glasses are almost the same
They look alike even sound the same...
i though it was his younger version of him 😂😂😂
Mr Havi, the brilliant mind there doing what needs to be done to restore public confidence in the judiciary.
just the other day, this fella spoke very glowingly of one william kabogo. need I say more?
Kudos Havi, go after them. Let’s have a list of the judges and the complaints. It’s time people do secret recordings Sonko style.
Great show the hot seat crew and President Havi! If only we made a sacrifice to do what we are expected of! The world would be a habitable place by all!
Politicians and lawyers are first cousins.
Judiciary reform is overdue but it can't be spearheaded by Havi nor Ahmed Nasir, these 2 are on kasongs payroll.
That is also my believe, both of them are supporters of kasongo
What about the corrupt advocates?This is a system of majambazi and the need for legalization is overdue.
I gree with you infact Matiangi talked like you say know i remember
My thoughts too. They are the worst. In fact a dare say they are the ones that instigate the bribery. It is lawyers that do the dirty work for their clients. Sometimes they turn on their clients too
Ruto is one guy who understands the Kenyan systems very well. Buy them, and they will forever do your bidding as long as they are in those positions. This explains why the bicameral parliament and the judiciary are ineffective.
Havi: Elder have you ever seen two people having intercouse😅😅?
CT: Are you asking if I have seen X rated videos 😢
Nelson Havi should have been an actor 😂😂😂 ...
Regarding the subject matter, most of the people I know don't trust courts ... Alot of people think taking things to court, even local lower courts, is a waste of time ... Unless you are willing to spend money to push your case in a direction.
Havi is doing politics of both Ruto and Raila. He is a stooge of the high office. Their idea cannot bring anything different .
On citizen tv you said Koome was a below average lawyer, today you have been kind on her.Come out strongly
I support the call for Reforms in the judiciary. The judiciary is entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring constitutionalism in the governance of a country. The kenyan judiciary needs to tell Kenyans who is in government and who is in the opposition just to start with. The registrar of political parties needs to tell us which political parties are in government and how and which political parties are in the opposition.
Havi, thank you for enlightening the public. But our hands are tied. Kila pahali in gava kitu kidogo is demanded not only juripesa!
Denis is doing a great job!!
I love Havi's ideas. The misbehaviour among this institution is overwhelming
God please have mercy on Kenya
We need a fresh vetting of everything down to PSs
Following
Eric you should be reading the message to this people so that they know that Kenyans are not mincing their words
Seriously???
Havi did CJ specifically state a judge's misconduct , incompetence etc can NOT be challenged????
If yes, when & where did CJ say that as from where i sit, judicial judgement independence is absolutely essential & necessary for objective judical operations. It protects judges from interference from external & even hostile internal forces.
But how does Havi jump to the conclusion that it AUTOMATICALLY means judges cannot be held accountable for theft, corruption, bribery & judgements literally contrary to the law & the constitution ?
It does not add up that the CJ whom Havi confesses is NOT corrupt would then somehow support corrupt & incompetent judges.
Let Havi & company following due process REMOVE judges as the law allows. Anything else sounds overtly personal & accusations against CJ totally UNjustified.
1. HAVI is Ruto's mouth-piece and so is Ahmed Nassir. 2. This group has a role in calling out Koome to resign and therefore according KASONGO AKA William Ruto to choose a CJ of his liking. 3. Raila Odinga, Uhuru Kenyatta & Ruto are involved in the long cone game or shrewed preparations of RIGGING elections in 2027......... The old politicians, most of the MPigs are scared Kenyans will send them home.....However, Koome should be called out about Corruption in the Judiciary for her to sanctify the third arm of Government: KK aligned advocates like Havi and Ahmed Nassir should'nt be the ones doing do, Kenyans will not trust their motives.
So Uhuru was right to withhold their appointments...
Why not automate judiciary charges, have wanjikus pay thru phones, get full registration details send back with court name, time, amount, judge to dispense the case, maximum duration etc etc and all those details captured in CjKoome and JSC portal so that at a click of mouse, u can see judges dragging cases and having them sacked?
Havi is the last person who would criticize judiciary bcz we recall the drame he had throughout his leadership at LSK.😂😂
The problem with Havi is that he is a bag of contradictions .The other day, he was congratulating one of the vilest characters in Kenya's public life for being appointed CS in a ministry he holds zero competence to head. He also represented the same character in a process where an innocent girl was murdered, and the issue forcely turned into a road accident where the fellow walked away scot-free. Havi and Ahmednassir could be hijacking this matter.
Justice Kamau Mugo of Nyamira is good too.
All obstacles must go b4 2027, why now what has changed!?
But this guy was supporting KK and even campaigned for a seat in Nairobi under UDA. I just think he is just bitter.
People are not allowed to change their minds?
Bitter over what. Does the fact that he supported KK does not mean he cannot criticize and point out the ills bedeviling the country
At his age he new who Kasongo is.
Kasongo has been himself since time in memorial.
I wonder how he followed Kasongo.
I'm younger than Havi but I know Kasongo better.
@@jmoricedfcurm4809The bottom line is that he created the problem and therefore his ability to make competent judgment is in doubt. Got it?
@@Bena932Just accept that Havi Arap Che Guevara created the mess and he can't escape it. It's hard to forgive these people if they worked so hard to put a useless man like Ruto into office.
Are they the same judges that Uhuru refused to swear in? And then Ruto came in then they were all sworn in without a question. THINGS FALL APART.
Never forget you startet the failing by promoting ruto
Why is Having realizing now that judiciary has failed? During Hot air verdict, he said gudos. What has changed?
Am doomed 😢😢 niw that i have a case against a wealthy employer does it mean he will bribe the magistrate and the labour case be ruled against me😢😢😢😢😢 Oh God
I like your argument my young brother.But let not be that you are removing Martha and replace her with SC/GM Ahmednasir.
Why don't you support her when executive ignore orders
This guys fears an independent judiciary
Unfortunately kenyans if the finds them capable of any case and judged accordingly "" then thesame people calls the court corrupt .but if they wine the court is good.
Kenya you are trouble citizens are more corrupt than government believe me or not period
There is also alot of corruption and political manipulations in their selection. You also need to know this Mr.Havi.
The Judiciary has not failed rather underfunding because the law makers don't want to be pursued.
Can it make a ruling on funding model?
It's true there's loss of trust in the judiciary, but Havi sounds very selective and economical with the truth
Nelson is a new angel from hell.
The court is for the poor and petty offenders , the rich no
Aren’t these judges the same that Uhuru had refused to swear in because of morality issues, and Ruto swore them in day one……..how ironic!
Is this the guy who was impeached at lsk, lost in westlands parliamentary seat and in Uganda lawyers elections? He has a bone to pick.
Havi is rutos mouthpiece anything he say is bs.if things go the way he wants don't be worried to see him as CJ in 2027
What about Gibson kamau kuria and paul muite are they rutos puppets? Weeee Acha. Let martha go even meru ppl have disowned her.
19:35 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This gentleman speaks like Eric Latif but he doesn't look like him.
Havi, luku ni nadhifu
Judiciary Surgery Every 5 years. 2024,2029,2034,2039,2044
Red herring
How many Centuries will take Africans to Respect Women????
Why say so?
What do you mean? You wanted equality, you were given, you cant perform. Now women are more employed than men, you are still complaining. What do women want??
Kenyans I feel that you knows everything going on but this problems leave to appeal by high lawyers knows what they talking about please this its they jobs let them to fix our country judges. That big judge very useless really she doing nothing justice ⚖ it's corruption very high in kenya. I gree with this lawyers.
Wewe Sudi, kiswahili pia ni lugha ya taifa.🤭
start with ahmed nasir abdullahi; we are rotten. no lawyer who is not corrupt stop lying to us....
Nelson you defended the government on Gachagua impeachment and now pretend to blame the judiciary on letting kenyans down while you also played a role in surbotaging justice.
"You are seated on the hot seat...!! "Why don't you simply say " You are on the hot seat..!!" Yawaa ,!
STOP giving cynical ambulance chasers, oxygen of publicity!
Havi is an establishment cheerleader, surviving on cartels handouts! Disgusting hypocrisy.
Where is the evidence of corruption?
Havi: We have the footprints..."
This is hot air.
And not a particularly bright mind.
Madam HOT AIR is the worst CJ we've had since our 2010 constitution