After owning approximately 10-12 trailers of all types in 25yrs I've learned a few things that apply to all of them. 1. Always over rate the trailer by at least 1 to 2,000lbs for what you are towing. 2. Never buy anything that comes with bias ply tires. Radials only 3. Always get the larger axles if you are close to maxing out the axle rating 4. Stay away from all the cheap brand trailers like Diamond Cargo etc. They are cheap for multiple reasons. Doesn't matter what type 5. Always carry a laser temp gun with you to check hub temps. Record how hot they get new and then grease when you see the temps start to go up on every trip over time. 6. Only buy what your truck can pull. Do not get close to the max capacity of your truck. Always stay under that by around 2,000lbs. This will save your transmission 7. Do not beat the hell out of your truck by revving the engine to death. Keep the rpms as low as possible and just let the truck do it's thing. 8. Always grease your ball fellas lol 9. Never ever lend a trailer to a friend. Ever. 10. If using a lower load rating tire from stock, always upgrade the tires to the next load range up when time to replace 11. Never have the gain too high 3 to 5 is normal range. Cheaper to replace brakes on truck than the trailer. 12. Always display your trans temp guage. Anything past 215 degrees you are getting into the damage area for a trans. If you run your trans that hot often, change trans fluid often. It will save your trans. 13. People are like distributors some are advanced and some are retarded, don't let anyone tell you anything about trailers that can't even back one up.
@@ExcavationRevelation Prob my favorite trailer has been my 7x16 Carmate enclosed cargo trailer. I have literally used that trailer for everything that can fit in it. It has served me extremely well for over 300k miles and still going strong. I only had to put one set of bearings in it, one wheel and 1 led side marker light. I've used it almost every day 6 months out of the year for 11yrs now. And I only had to re caulk the top seal one time as well. Thing is the best money that I've ever spent.
I’ve tried a lot of setups, the most efficient one I have is a f550 with a 10’ folding side Mason dump and a 20’ 18k low pro tilt deck. It takes a class A license but it gets in job sites easy and works great for 6 ton or under equipment. I prefer a tandem dump with a 25 ton 26’ deck over tag trailer to move 2 smaller machines or larger equipment. Biggest thing is get your class A if you want to do heavy equipment because you outgrow 4 ton units fast.
Another very important consideration is weight rating of the trailer. I see too much equipment hauled on 7K rated car haulers with only one brake axle. Minimum for small equipment would probably be 10k with both axles with brakes. I actually started with a 14' dump rated at 14k lbs. Works quite well for my B26 Kubota and is very versatile.
This is a nice video, very informative. I personally have both I started with a deckover and then bought a equipment trailer. It's extremely nice to have both options
My first flatbed is a 14k lb bumper pull 20 foot deckover with rear slide in ramps. My intention is to hotshot, but loading cars is a challenge because the deck is too high and the 8 foot ramps create too steep of an angle. Either the cars rear bumper drags or the center bottoms out at the top or both. I have to drive my pickups rear wheels up on ramps to lift the front of the trailer which lowers the rear, but it's still not enough for regular cars. I need to build more suitable, longer ramps to stick under my slide in ramps if I'm going to haul cars and trucks. Otherwise, it's a perfect trailer for freight, pallets, crates, pipe and equipment. Driving vehicles on is the only real issue. I also don't have a winch to pull dead vehicles up on the deck, which I will eventually install once the ramp situation is satisfactorily resolved. If you're planning on rolling vehicles up on your deck, get a low pro trailer or a tilt deck. My next trailer will be a 32 foot aluminum deckover with a 5 foot beaver tail and gooseneck hitch with two 9k lb axles. That trailer will cost at least $25k compared to the $6500 I paid for my current steel one. Price and empty weight are factors. Or a tilt deckover trailer but definitely a deckover.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and it's good that you are finding a way to make it work. $25k is a big investment, but if you've got the work lined and up and it will make things easier/ faster, it's definitely worth it
Nice video. I've gotten 2 trailers from that place. My next trailer will be a tilt/deck over in a gooseneck. Most likely in a 25 or 30 foot length. A 26k ratting will 12k axles..17.5 tires..I've got a kubotakx057-4 with a rock hound flail mower attachment. Soon to get a jgi areal lift 45 foot with wheels. My first trailer was a cam low profile bumper pool. 18ft 16k weight rating. But now the wait for a trailer to be ordered is 5 to 7 months. So it's a hit or miss on what is in the dealers inventory. That place is only about 5 miles from my house. The information that you gave in this video is extremely useful for people who are in the process of getting a trailer. Thanks for the video.
I chose a deckover for my welding business for hauling materials to keep folks from beating the fenders off with a forklift and it makes a good work table.
Yes I plan to leave one hooked up to one of my and keep the other one ton it's an everyday driver but still pull a trailer with it both trucks will be fixed set up to pull gooseneck and my bumper pull
Low pro for equipment is better. Only advantage for deckover is loading stuff with a forklift. That's why people end up with a bunch of different trailers. A Transformer trailer would be awesome, but then it would probably cost $30k.
I started out with a low profile tilt bed for calling vehicles on like cars trucks so forth and so forth now I'm thinking about upgrading to a gooseneck that will haul 3 full size pickup that are going to be used for truck pulls and still keep my low profile to haul a single truck and then when I'm not going to truck pulls I'm going to use them to haul cars and other vehicles for other people that I'm thinking about a gooseneck like I say I have a bumper pull right now and my k3500 will fit on it I'll be coming into a F-350 dually 4-wheel drive like my k3500 it's an 8-ft bed four-door diesel the F-350 is 8 ft bed four-door 4 x 4 diesel to longer trailer to haul at least three full size pickup trucks and still use it to haul other vehicles or other haul other stuff for people that need it that don't have a way to haul anything I want to keep both trailers the gooseneck I'll leave attached to one of the trucks 24/7 the bumper pole I will detach it from the vehicle so I've got it for the everyday driver what do you suggest
If you are looking to haul 3 full-size trucks, then a gooseneck or 5th wheel would be a wise choice. Just make sure you do your research as far as weights and registration to stay legal. The idea of leaving one hooked up all the time is nice if you can make it happen
I prefer a drop trailer for smaller equipment and keeping the weight lower to the ground!. If your hauling a little larger equipment then I'd take a deck over and a little larger truck than a 1 ton dually!.
So I’m ordering a 24 foot tilt lowboy 16 K my question is would it be better to order a gooseneck or bumper pull? I do pull a single axle bumper pole, 10 foot enclosed trailer daily and have a 35 foot travel trailer so I’m not a stranger to pulling a trailer , and I have a three-quarter ton Cummins, the truck is set up for bumper pole or gooseneck so I’m good to go either way.
Since the truck is already set up to pull a gooseneck, a gooseneck would probably be the way to go. You will notice better stability. You will however sacrifice hauling space in your bed, but if your Cummins has a regular pickup truck bed then it shouldn't matter much.
I’m considering a 24’x 102” wide gooseneck to haul my lifted show truck but also would like to tow my Challenger when needed. So I think I’m a have to go with low profile. Can’t find any videos of a car loaded on a deck over. I’m assuming Ramps will be too steep. Thoughts anyone??
You say a low profile trailer and deck over have different ground clearance ? Axle height on both style trailers are the same height that in turn make ground clearance the same. The only difference is height and width of deck. More stability on lower decks
Better to have weight too far forward than too far back, agreed. It depends on the length of your trailer where your center of gravity is but ultimately you want the majority of your weight over your axles/slightly ahead. I always back skid steers on putting the majority of the weight forward. How do you load, say, a rockhound and a skidsteer bucket on the back?
After owning approximately 10-12 trailers of all types in 25yrs I've learned a few things that apply to all of them.
1. Always over rate the trailer by at least 1 to 2,000lbs for what you are towing.
2. Never buy anything that comes with bias ply tires. Radials only
3. Always get the larger axles if you are close to maxing out the axle rating
4. Stay away from all the cheap brand trailers like Diamond Cargo etc. They are cheap for multiple reasons. Doesn't matter what type
5. Always carry a laser temp gun with you to check hub temps. Record how hot they get new and then grease when you see the temps start to go up on every trip over time.
6. Only buy what your truck can pull. Do not get close to the max capacity of your truck. Always stay under that by around 2,000lbs. This will save your transmission
7. Do not beat the hell out of your truck by revving the engine to death. Keep the rpms as low as possible and just let the truck do it's thing.
8. Always grease your ball fellas lol
9. Never ever lend a trailer to a friend. Ever.
10. If using a lower load rating tire from stock, always upgrade the tires to the next load range up when time to replace
11. Never have the gain too high 3 to 5 is normal range. Cheaper to replace brakes on truck than the trailer.
12. Always display your trans temp guage. Anything past 215 degrees you are getting into the damage area for a trans. If you run your trans that hot often, change trans fluid often. It will save your trans.
13. People are like distributors some are advanced and some are retarded, don't let anyone tell you anything about trailers that can't even back one up.
Wow this is gold, so much great advice here! What has been your favorite trailer that you've owned?
Great info! Never thought about #5. Will have to remember 11 and 12 as well.
@@ExcavationRevelation Prob my favorite trailer has been my 7x16 Carmate enclosed cargo trailer. I have literally used that trailer for everything that can fit in it. It has served me extremely well for over 300k miles and still going strong. I only had to put one set of bearings in it, one wheel and 1 led side marker light. I've used it almost every day 6 months out of the year for 11yrs now. And I only had to re caulk the top seal one time as well. Thing is the best money that I've ever spent.
I’ve tried a lot of setups, the most efficient one I have is a f550 with a 10’ folding side Mason dump and a 20’ 18k low pro tilt deck. It takes a class A license but it gets in job sites easy and works great for 6 ton or under equipment.
I prefer a tandem dump with a 25 ton 26’ deck over tag trailer to move 2 smaller machines or larger equipment. Biggest thing is get your class A if you want to do heavy equipment because you outgrow 4 ton units fast.
Another very important consideration is weight rating of the trailer. I see too much equipment hauled on 7K rated car haulers with only one brake axle. Minimum for small equipment would probably be 10k with both axles with brakes. I actually started with a 14' dump rated at 14k lbs. Works quite well for my B26 Kubota and is very versatile.
The best trailer is one that a friend owns. Too bad I'm the friend with the trailers.
Nobody drives my trailer but me and my wife. the end 😅
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This is a nice video, very informative. I personally have both I started with a deckover and then bought a equipment trailer. It's extremely nice to have both options
My first flatbed is a 14k lb bumper pull 20 foot deckover with rear slide in ramps. My intention is to hotshot, but loading cars is a challenge because the deck is too high and the 8 foot ramps create too steep of an angle.
Either the cars rear bumper drags or the center bottoms out at the top or both. I have to drive my pickups rear wheels up on ramps to lift the front of the trailer which lowers the rear, but it's still not enough for regular cars. I need to build more suitable, longer ramps to stick under my slide in ramps if I'm going to haul cars and trucks.
Otherwise, it's a perfect trailer for freight, pallets, crates, pipe and equipment.
Driving vehicles on is the only real issue. I also don't have a winch to pull dead vehicles up on the deck, which I will eventually install once the ramp situation is satisfactorily resolved.
If you're planning on rolling vehicles up on your deck, get a low pro trailer or a tilt deck.
My next trailer will be a 32 foot aluminum deckover with a 5 foot beaver tail and gooseneck hitch with two 9k lb axles. That trailer will cost at least $25k compared to the $6500 I paid for my current steel one. Price and empty weight are factors.
Or a tilt deckover trailer but definitely a deckover.
Everyone has to start somewhere, and it's good that you are finding a way to make it work. $25k is a big investment, but if you've got the work lined and up and it will make things easier/ faster, it's definitely worth it
Nice video. I've gotten 2 trailers from that place. My next trailer will be a tilt/deck over in a gooseneck. Most likely in a 25 or 30 foot length. A 26k ratting will 12k axles..17.5 tires..I've got a kubotakx057-4 with a rock hound flail mower attachment. Soon to get a jgi areal lift 45 foot with wheels. My first trailer was a cam low profile bumper pool. 18ft 16k weight rating. But now the wait for a trailer to be ordered is 5 to 7 months. So it's a hit or miss on what is in the dealers inventory. That place is only about 5 miles from my house. The information that you gave in this video is extremely useful for people who are in the process of getting a trailer. Thanks for the video.
Sounds like you are a man with a plan. You should be able to haul a wide variety of things with a gooseneck like that!
I chose a deckover for my welding business for hauling materials to keep folks from beating the fenders off with a forklift and it makes a good work table.
nice! what brand did you go with?
@@ExcavationRevelation Sure Trac 18 ft.
Low profile 24’ load trail with max ramps is what I got and I love it
Had a trailer with ramps that quickly got old. Tilt is the way to go no fussing with ramps.
Thanks for the video. Great video and explaining all the differences.
Yes I plan to leave one hooked up to one of my and keep the other one ton it's an everyday driver but still pull a trailer with it both trucks will be fixed set up to pull gooseneck and my bumper pull
sounds like a good plan, keep me posted how it goes 👊
All of our trailers are low pros. They’re not as tippy and easier to load equipment onto. I do not like the higher deck over Trailers.
Low pro for equipment is better. Only advantage for deckover is loading stuff with a forklift. That's why people end up with a bunch of different trailers. A Transformer trailer would be awesome, but then it would probably cost $30k.
I started out with a low profile tilt bed for calling vehicles on like cars trucks so forth and so forth now I'm thinking about upgrading to a gooseneck that will haul 3 full size pickup that are going to be used for truck pulls and still keep my low profile to haul a single truck and then when I'm not going to truck pulls I'm going to use them to haul cars and other vehicles for other people that I'm thinking about a gooseneck like I say I have a bumper pull right now and my k3500 will fit on it I'll be coming into a F-350 dually 4-wheel drive like my k3500 it's an 8-ft bed four-door diesel the F-350 is 8 ft bed four-door 4 x 4 diesel to longer trailer to haul at least three full size pickup trucks and still use it to haul other vehicles or other haul other stuff for people that need it that don't have a way to haul anything I want to keep both trailers the gooseneck I'll leave attached to one of the trucks 24/7 the bumper pole I will detach it from the vehicle so I've got it for the everyday driver what do you suggest
If you are looking to haul 3 full-size trucks, then a gooseneck or 5th wheel would be a wise choice. Just make sure you do your research as far as weights and registration to stay legal. The idea of leaving one hooked up all the time is nice if you can make it happen
Donnie how is the tilt bed trailer for loading manual transmissioned classic cars? I’m trying to decide the way to go Thanks!
I prefer a drop trailer for smaller equipment and keeping the weight lower to the ground!. If your hauling a little larger equipment then I'd take a deck over and a little larger truck than a 1 ton dually!.
So I’m ordering a 24 foot tilt lowboy 16 K my question is would it be better to order a gooseneck or bumper pull? I do pull a single axle bumper pole, 10 foot enclosed trailer daily and have a 35 foot travel trailer so I’m not a stranger to pulling a trailer , and I have a three-quarter ton Cummins, the truck is set up for bumper pole or gooseneck so I’m good to go either way.
Since the truck is already set up to pull a gooseneck, a gooseneck would probably be the way to go. You will notice better stability.
You will however sacrifice hauling space in your bed, but if your Cummins has a regular pickup truck bed then it shouldn't matter much.
@@ExcavationRevelation thanks for the input.
DOT pays closer attention to the gooseneck trailers.
I’m considering a 24’x 102” wide gooseneck to haul my lifted show truck but also would like to tow my Challenger when needed. So I think I’m a have to go with low profile. Can’t find any videos of a car loaded on a deck over. I’m assuming Ramps will be too steep. Thoughts anyone??
You say a low profile trailer and deck over have different ground clearance ? Axle height on both style trailers are the same height that in turn make ground clearance the same. The only difference is height and width of deck. More stability on lower decks
Informative , Thanks.
The tilt worked better for me
deckover would be my choice much more versatile. I have owned both and prefer deckover.
Buy both
Where are you located?
This was filmed at Smouse Trailers in Mt. Pleasant, PA. They have a great selection!
Dont ever back a skid steer on a trailer thats stoopid.
Lol! No! You put your skid steer on first than atachements. Otherwise you get the death wobble cause you center of draft is wrong.
Better to have weight too far forward than too far back, agreed. It depends on the length of your trailer where your center of gravity is but ultimately you want the majority of your weight over your axles/slightly ahead. I always back skid steers on putting the majority of the weight forward. How do you load, say, a rockhound and a skidsteer bucket on the back?
That and you never back into the trailer this guy's a fool.
Deckover is the only trailer that shoukd be sold.