I’ve had a tilt deck(Load Trail). It worked very well and was really convenient for equipment. My issue with it was when I needed to load several pallets at a time or lots of material. The fenders became an issue. I switched to a Diamond C DEC with max ramps. For me the versatility was much better. The DEC’s just have so much useable real estate on the deck it super convenient. The one thing I wish I had and will be adding is the electric hydraulic jack. That and the Demco hitch. Great informative video. Trailers are very vital piece’s of equipment that get over looked and you truly get what you pay for. There’s a reason why the top tier builders cost more.
Love tilt deck trailers as long as they have the dampner system so that it requires some force to tilt and uses reverse pressure in the cylinder to slowly lower the deck. If you can get a full length hydraulic tilt deck they are amazing especially when you install a winch on the front, then you can use it to load things.
I love the tiltdeck trailers, makes it so easy to load equipment, the hydros allow the deck to either open or close slowly and gently. Highly recommend them.
My biggest concern is snow on the deck. I had a deck over beaver tail trailer years ago and I had a few times it was raining and as a result my tractor couldn't climb it without a bit of a running start. Not safe at all. I now have a low flat deck with ramps and I've never had a problem loading my tractor in our upstate New York winters. Even when the snow is shoveled off, quite often there's a coating of hard crusty snow and ice that doesn't come off. I've also gotten into moving cars and am wondering if the traction might be a problem with them. I'm in the market for a new trailer and am considering which might be a better trailer. Thanks for your videos like this one that puts equipment like this side by side for an honest, real world comparison.
I have ran a tilt for years and love it. Are their things that I wish were different on mine, of course. I personally like the deck lock feature. Have put a few longer wheel base vehicles on it and I have had to unhook, lock the deck in transport and jack it up to put the tail on the ground to load it. I can see where that feature would be great in that application. One safety thing from a personal experience that has happened more then once is that with conventional ramps(standard or long ramps) is that if it picks the back of the truck up and it starts to roll you have 2 options, keep going and sit the tires back down or jump off the machine. For that reason I personally will never own a standard ramp trailer. Your ramp trailer is the only style that I would even consider buying. I have learned that it is better to get the stationary deck up front then a full tilt bed. You could put you plate tamp, buckets for the skid or mini's, and other materials there and not have to worry about them flipping/ sliding back towards you when you load up. That diamond is a good looking trailer with a lot of options that when I get another one they will definitely be considered when looking at them. Great video as all ways and thank you for sharing. I'm interested in your thoughts on the black wood with the weather you get up there.
I bought that very tilt trailer (15k version with manual jack) last year. Couldn't have bought a better trailer. The extra money compared to a trailer w/ramps was well worth it for me. Diamond C makes a heck of a product. You actually feel as though you got your money's worth for sure.
Yes, if the price was right. But I don't like how they cut the I beam to bend at the tongue then fish plate gusset it. Very few trailer manufacturers actually have the machine that can bend that I beam. The fenders on diamond c were thinner. I did like the big tool box though Hope it's doing you good
Love the video and the information I always wanted to get a tilt deck trailer but I don't know I'm kind of used to mine on my ramps be interesting to see how well it does hold up with that valve I do like it and the solar charger would be ideal
There is a locking pin for those drop and go couplers. It goes through the hole in the side of the coupler to keep someone from flipping up the latch and locking it to the ball for security. However it is not required for the coupler to operate correctly.
I've got an old cam superliner tilt deck, love it. Mini ex, skiddy, my 3046r all load great on them and that's with a cylinder that I would guess needs a rebuild as it has some bypass (doesn't sit on the ground 100% any more, about 3 to 4 inches off the ground) but does still provide a nice smooth up down with no slamming around. Now the trailer I would barrow was ramps and we'll with anything tracked you get the tipping point slam if you miss breaking the balance point easy. Tilt deck all the way for me.
Thanks to Stan and Jacob! I really like Diamond C trailers. I'm in the market for that tilt deck trailer in a triple axle. One PIA problem is that you can not contact Diamond C directly. I've contacted two of their dealers who can't find their tail with both hands. As a buyer, if I can't get technical, and product specific questions answered, I go somewhere else.
i have a 14k tilt deck trailer on order. Tilt because I am not getting any younger, ramps would be a killer in the next ten years. Safer with the tilt also, no ramps falling back and knocking you down and subsequently hurting you. Nice trailer Stanley.
I can vouch for those EZ Latches, they are becoming standard on all uhaul trailers and are a dream to work with. I have never had one pop off the ball over the 30,000-40,000 trailers I have hooked up
@@Leotheconstructionguy totally. The one thing I hate about some of the new ones are how uhaul is switching from chains to braided cable. You don't want to imagine the feeling of one of those strands going into your palm.
@@preachers4135 I see loose couplers, non-existant safety chains and the occasional loose car dolly strap, anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. We once had someone come in with a car "secured" to a car hauler with enough room between the strap and the wheel for me to pull it off. It was policy at my location to have a second set of eyes look over all hookups, or to take a photo of it and upload to the contract.
I tell you being in heavy equivalent for 27 years. The old tilt trailer was much much higher. Loading an old case droit excavator 80k lbs. There's a trick to it for sure. You'll never forget the first time you load it. If you have any loose fillings in your teeth. They will come out. Back in the day you learned that as soon as that bed starts to move and you'll notice the lowboy driver will never load if he doesn't have to the heavy equipment. Here she will always leave it to the operator of the equipment. You learn pretty fast , as soon as that trailer starts to move forward you stop and as you get better at it you can only get so good. There will be a bang. 🤣 I never thought I see a trailer like that. I always had a gooseneck or at the very least a military hitch which is also known as a pinnacle Hitch. That's pretty cool. Don't need a pen. I bet you a thousand acres & The farm If DOT did not see a pin and that hitch with a load on it. He would definitely pull somebody over. Keep that paperwork with you at all times with the trailer. I would actually put a commercial glove box attached to the trailer and keep it in mirror with the registration to the trailer. That is fantastic! Love it!
Great trailer and video Stan. I was talking with a customer that has this same trailer, minus the fancy orange paint. He’s a contractor with a CAT 289D2, has used the trailer daily for about three years and still says it’s the best trailer he’s owned and used. Specifically the black boards: have held up well in the Texas heat and then on the other end of the spectrum he said he has loaded and unloaded the skid steer while the deck was icy without any issues. JUST KEEP OIL OFF OF THEM. Petroleum products will soften and swell the rubber then loose adhesion with the wood. For that reason he’s had to replace a couple boards but said they were easy to source and the expense was worth the traction and safety benefits.
Very awesome trailer. I used it have tilt deck before switching to ramps. Had a difficulty time in winter trying to load a tire skidsteer on it. Can you do a demo video with tire skidsteer on muddy or snow and ice surface?
I just picked up a used 14k 22' Big Tex tilt deck for my Bobcat S220 and absolutely love it. My alternate trailer is a 14k Big Tex deckover with ramps and it is a scary proposition to put the Bobcat on it. For equipment or vehicles, my new choice is positively the tilt deck.
Stan, thanks for the great content! Always enjoy watching. Another tax deduction (in case you need another grin opportunity) tire pressure/ temperature monitors. Great indicator to prevent issues.
When dealing with crews or different trailers. You either need safety pins in all your trailers or none at all. I know that trailer doesn't need one but your creating a training scar with your employees. I'm telling you one day when your in a rush you'll look down and see ni safety pin and something in your brain will tell you that's okay, no matter what trailer your using and that's a bad deal. So good on you Stan for still using one.
We went with a tilt bed trailer because other operators like to turn while on the ramps and I could not stop them unless I was right there with them. Our tilt bed has a shock absorbor to keep the bed from slamming up or down.
Tilt deck trailers are the way to go for sure! I’ve been running a 20ft pj tilt for 4 years now and I’d never go back to ramps unless absolutely necessary.
Wonderful when not loading up hill and not wet conditions or ice or mud We slide around when ice is on the deck, heavy rain, sometimes have to move the truck opposite way and load down hill just to decrease the loading angle
A Demco latch paired with a remote control for the jack would let you line up with the backup camera and only get out of the truck to hook up power and chains
I towed my gooseneck trailer from Florida to Arizona (2,200) miles one of my hubs was always hotter than the rest but the grease didn’t do any good. I figured it must the drum brakes so I removed the brakes shoes from that drum and solved the problem. I replaced with new shoes and springs when I made it home in Arizona.
I started switching to tilt deck trailers as I hate lifting ramps up. Last summer one of my guys was using our ramp trailer and the spring came off when dropping the ramp and the spring went though his leg. Tilt deck trailers are the way to go.
That's a dam good trailer 👌 👏. Nice build quality.. I have a question do they have side boards for the front section that doesn't tip? If they don't I think it would be a great option to have for landscaping and builders a like great for keeping the small stuff secure on the trailer. Stay safe sir 🏴
One time I had the typical lift the back of the truck issue, runaway, jack knife 🔪 🤣 Athough mine happened in a different way and thats why I will share my experience learning the hard way, to save someone the devastation it can cause. I've been aware for years of putting some timber blocks at the back under a standard trailer using ramps. Having an assistant hold their foot on the truck brakes is good too. It locks all wheels including trailer brakes. My situation was a full tilt bed trailer I borrowed from a friend. I needed to move a class C motorhome. We put the motorhome up on the tilted bed. Well it wasn't quite enough weight up front to make the trailer tilt to the flat (tow position). So, my buddy gets the floor jack out and digs a little trough to slide the jack under the rear deck of the trailer. He jacks it up and it tilts into the locked position. Ok, no problem, good to go! Well NOT ! When he let the jack down to go put it away in the truck. The Dodge dually lifted enough that the back tires were kinda skipping down the DG road we parked on. Gaining speed as it left us. The steering wheel was turned a little bit and it sent it into a field that previously was roughed up by a dozer ripper blades. One guy tried to catch up to it running along side of the passenger side. Just as he got to the door handle and opened it, the truck and trailer jack knifed and chucked the guy about 30 feet into the field as the door flew open! It ripped a tire on passenger side ,outside dual off its bead. Cracked the driverside taillight lens when the motorhome bumper hit it. Cracked the driverside dually fender when trailer pinched the truck. It could have rolled the dually over. That roughed up field kinda grabbed the dually tires on the passenger side. Luckily this happened in a distance of about 150 feet, so it didn't have a chance to get too much speed. We pulled it out of the jack knife by hooking onto the back of the flatbed with friends Mack Brigadier truck. All went well pulling back straight. Ended up pulling motorhome with dually and a chain. Didn't have far to move it. So, that was a different situation than the typical, so keep that in mind if you ever have that situation arise. Could have been much worse. This can still happen even with a trailer that tilts at the back. If its really heavy in the rear and you need to assist the bed to lock down flat, be careful. 👍✌
We have a Construction Company up in here in Canada. We have 3 20 feet 14k Tilt Deck Trailers. We haul Bobcat 770 all over with the trailers. Easy Load Easy Unload. I would recommend for sure.
I like my tilt decks for skidsteer and other small equipment, the one I use daily is a new "old style", we have a newer one with the hydraulic assist, so much nicer
I had a trailer built for me. It was from PJ, but obviously they aren't the only ones out there. Deck-Over Tilt-Bed, power up and down, using a wireless remote control unit. Which yeah, we were losing constantly. Had the Blackwood too, which was definitely better then plain wood, but it didn't cure every weather condition. You also had to be be very scrupulous about keeping the deck clean, because little pieces of aggregate would cause way more traction loss then you'd ever think possible. Definitely liked that trailer, because you could load and unload damn near anywhere. It was also a Gooseneck, and had a neck-deck. It was good for cargo, and for a bucket. Even had a spare tire on a hoist tucked up under it. And of course, I upgraded the axles, but they were still singles, so DOT didn't pay attention, yet I could carry a 12,000lb load and be legal and sub-CDL. Depending on which truck was pulling it of course... 😁
@@restaurantandbarequipmento3087 Yes. There were more options. Hydraulic landing gear, winch, under-bed rails for straps, so other stuff. But, yes, it was just a bit over $20k all together.
I've wanted fork pockets on my 16 ft trailer, taught myself how to stick weld and guess who got fork pockets on their trailer. Good spot to store pallet forks just in general and there when needed. Tipping the trailer though when loading, nothing worse than it tipping up about 2 ft from your truck and you tell your wife to move it before you put a hole through the door panel lol.
I’ve ran both I find the tilt deck puts less stress on the truck when loading and unloading a machine Would be a good side by side comparison loading a track loader on both trailers and look at the rear of the truck on the difference when loading
Even some or most of the old tilt trailers like you mentioned your dad wouldn't drive up on it, had basically a shock absorber to let it down slowly. I've seen a few old ones that didn't work though. The fluid leaked out around the seals over the years. Then its like not having any dampening whatsoever.
Great Information! I am running a couple of Diamond C trailers and like both of them. I went with ramps because that is what they had here in Alaska. I always thought I would choose ramps over tilt so that I did not have to deal with the ram, hoses, and fluid but i can see that I would get full use of the deck with the tilt over the ramps. I do get to put an attachment up front with the ramp trailer and then back a skid on though. SO the question remains…which one is better? I will be looking forward to your opinion after running both for awhile. Can’t wait until you have had enough time to make that video!
We're in AK as well. We have a Diamond C gooseneck with ramps and an Olympic tilt deck. I far prefer the goose with ramps in 90% of the cases. In the winter, we can't get a tracked skid steer up the tilt deck without a major hassle. That is the other major reason we didn't order a hydraulic tail gooseneck as well. The other bonus of a ramped deck over is that you can use the trailer to haul materials much easier.
I am a heavy equipment operator for a county road dept. We only use tilt deck trailers and I wouldn't have it any other way. Our triple axle tilt decks are made by Olympic and our smaller one that we use to haul our mini ex is a Diamond C. One thing I will say though for anyone who's not familiar with a tilt deck, once you feel the deck tilting stop moving. If you move the equipment while the deck tilts you can potentially damage the hydraulics.
I always back up on to the trailer so the loader counter weigh is near the middle of the trailer in stead of on the back end of the trailer which can cause trailer sway
CTL tilt is the way to go, with my mini ex I just jump on to the deck as I have found ramps have tried to kill me more times then jumping on without them.
Load a tilt deck un hooked from truck vs conventional ramp trailer. Would be nice to have fork pockets accessible from any side of trailer. Move the spare elsewhere. Small solar charger for hydro battery.
Hi Stanley and the Dirt Monkey crew. The trailer looks good. It would be better if there was a solar panel for the battery so you wouldn't have to have a cord to it. Stay safe Stanley amd crew.
Went with Imperial tiltbed trailers 20 years ago never looked back. Ramps are an unecessary pain on skidsteer trailers plus its easier to haul rollers, lifts, cars when needed
I personally like a deckover for the added deck width but the company I work for insists on the tilt decks. Don't get me wrong, they do work well but our machines barely fit between the fenders so it's sometimes stressful loading. The latest one is a B-Wise 16K with springs. It goes down the road pretty good but the deck latching system absolutely sucks!, when it's empty the deck constantly bangs and even came unlocked on me once on the interstate. The old PJ has a far better locking system, but their powdercoating is horrible.
Very good video I like it you got a love the color are you sure you’re not a Tennessee fan? I’m picking up my brand new Kaufman tilt deck 22ft tilt deck !!
I welded a large nut on my jack, after removing the handle, and use an M18 impact... works super slick and stoopid fast and no battery to charge on the trailer. I got a used epoxy coated no-tilt trailer with new axles/brakes/leds for $2k so I looked no further, and since I only use it infrequently, I am not concerned about loading speed. We have on site storage at our big jobs, so less loading and works for me. That is a beautiful piece. Do you have to have someone pull the lever (two people to load)? thanks
We love our Diamond C tilt deck, however we need to bolt a metal mesh so we can drive up in winter. Without it a bit of ice on the trailer and you can't drive up.
It seems to be an awesome trailer, my questions are, whats the quality of the wiring and hows the prep work for the paint? Everything I see up here in new england is referred to as bare builders wire meaning no loom or protection for the wiring that works for a year if your lucky, and, no one does prep for paint, meaning they spray paint straight on the bare rusty metal and it peels off in a few months. Im all about longevity, I'd love to see how it holds up overall.
I like my tilt deck with at least a 8 foot stationary Jacob even puts 10 foot decks on those can you get that trailer in the wide max option… that would be cool to
We run a 24' ph tilt like this and absolutely love it. We have had it for 10 years and is hands down the way to go. Load and unload with the quickness.
Jacob really is a great salesman without being a salesman. Cool, calm, very knowledgeable, very personable and down to earth.
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Stan, thank you for giving us an update in the video of how it’s been doing! So many people talk about updates, but never do.
No problem man 👊 thanks for being here!
I’ve had a tilt deck(Load Trail). It worked very well and was really convenient for equipment. My issue with it was when I needed to load several pallets at a time or lots of material. The fenders became an issue. I switched to a Diamond C DEC with max ramps. For me the versatility was much better. The DEC’s just have so much useable real estate on the deck it super convenient. The one thing I wish I had and will be adding is the electric hydraulic jack. That and the Demco hitch. Great informative video. Trailers are very vital piece’s of equipment that get over looked and you truly get what you pay for. There’s a reason why the top tier builders cost more.
Love your videos, always interesting and informative. Thank you so much !
Video's like this are such a big help when deciding on new equipment
Thanks
Anyone else get a reply from a number like I did or did the dirt monkey get hacked
Good information. Few things I didn't know. Especially the brake in. Thanks for the video
I love that front tool box lid. there are a ton of details on that trailer that look good.
Great information thank you Jacob! I am a firm believer of tilt trailer!
The first time I DIDN'T have to lug ramps out to load/unload, I'm sold.
Right !
Love tilt deck trailers as long as they have the dampner system so that it requires some force to tilt and uses reverse pressure in the cylinder to slowly lower the deck. If you can get a full length hydraulic tilt deck they are amazing especially when you install a winch on the front, then you can use it to load things.
that's a awesome tilt deck , the way it comes down smooth with the asv on it is great !!
Better manufacturers use 2 dampening cylinders
Have never been a tilt deck guy, that being said after seeing this it has definitely peeked my interest in one.
Awesome information! I have never been told about trailer breaks need to be broke in ! Learn something today!
I love the tiltdeck trailers, makes it so easy to load equipment, the hydros allow the deck to either open or close slowly and gently. Highly recommend them.
My biggest concern is snow on the deck. I had a deck over beaver tail trailer years ago and I had a few times it was raining and as a result my tractor couldn't climb it without a bit of a running start. Not safe at all. I now have a low flat deck with ramps and I've never had a problem loading my tractor in our upstate New York winters. Even when the snow is shoveled off, quite often there's a coating of hard crusty snow and ice that doesn't come off. I've also gotten into moving cars and am wondering if the traction might be a problem with them. I'm in the market for a new trailer and am considering which might be a better trailer. Thanks for your videos like this one that puts equipment like this side by side for an honest, real world comparison.
I have ran a tilt for years and love it. Are their things that I wish were different on mine, of course. I personally like the deck lock feature. Have put a few longer wheel base vehicles on it and I have had to unhook, lock the deck in transport and jack it up to put the tail on the ground to load it. I can see where that feature would be great in that application. One safety thing from a personal experience that has happened more then once is that with conventional ramps(standard or long ramps) is that if it picks the back of the truck up and it starts to roll you have 2 options, keep going and sit the tires back down or jump off the machine. For that reason I personally will never own a standard ramp trailer. Your ramp trailer is the only style that I would even consider buying. I have learned that it is better to get the stationary deck up front then a full tilt bed. You could put you plate tamp, buckets for the skid or mini's, and other materials there and not have to worry about them flipping/ sliding back towards you when you load up. That diamond is a good looking trailer with a lot of options that when I get another one they will definitely be considered when looking at them. Great video as all ways and thank you for sharing. I'm interested in your thoughts on the black wood with the weather you get up there.
I bought that very tilt trailer (15k version with manual jack) last year. Couldn't have bought a better trailer. The extra money compared to a trailer w/ramps was well worth it for me. Diamond C makes a heck of a product. You actually feel as though you got your money's worth for sure.
Yes, if the price was right. But I don't like how they cut the I beam to bend at the tongue then fish plate gusset it.
Very few trailer manufacturers actually have the machine that can bend that I beam.
The fenders on diamond c were thinner.
I did like the big tool box though
Hope it's doing you good
Love the video and the information I always wanted to get a tilt deck trailer but I don't know I'm kind of used to mine on my ramps be interesting to see how well it does hold up with that valve I do like it and the solar charger would be ideal
There is a locking pin for those drop and go couplers. It goes through the hole in the side of the coupler to keep someone from flipping up the latch and locking it to the ball for security.
However it is not required for the coupler to operate correctly.
Thanks for the tip 👌
Good Evening, Hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Very informational video!
Had an awesome one with the family! Hope you did too 👍 thanks
You are the man STAN great video brother.👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I've got an old cam superliner tilt deck, love it. Mini ex, skiddy, my 3046r all load great on them and that's with a cylinder that I would guess needs a rebuild as it has some bypass (doesn't sit on the ground 100% any more, about 3 to 4 inches off the ground) but does still provide a nice smooth up down with no slamming around. Now the trailer I would barrow was ramps and we'll with anything tracked you get the tipping point slam if you miss breaking the balance point easy. Tilt deck all the way for me.
Thanks to Stan and Jacob! I really like Diamond C trailers. I'm in the market for that tilt deck trailer in a triple axle. One PIA problem is that you can not contact Diamond C directly. I've contacted two of their dealers who can't find their tail with both hands. As a buyer, if I can't get technical, and product specific questions answered, I go somewhere else.
Bravo 👏
I like manufacturers that are by our side AFTER purchase!
i have a 14k tilt deck trailer on order. Tilt because I am not getting any younger, ramps would be a killer in the next ten years. Safer with the tilt also, no ramps falling back and knocking you down and subsequently hurting you. Nice trailer Stanley.
Very nice, that tilt trailer would be to have. The other time saver is you don't need to put the ramps out.
I like both, depending on what I'm doing. I like deck over with ramps for material
great machine and great video
I can vouch for those EZ Latches, they are becoming standard on all uhaul trailers and are a dream to work with. I have never had one pop off the ball over the 30,000-40,000 trailers I have hooked up
That is awesome!!
Yeah I pulled a U-Haul trailer last week the U-Haul guy was talking about how much better it is instead of the old swivel couplers 💯💯💯
@@Leotheconstructionguy totally. The one thing I hate about some of the new ones are how uhaul is switching from chains to braided cable. You don't want to imagine the feeling of one of those strands going into your palm.
I always wondered why uhaul used the old screw down coupler and how many customers either didn’t tighten them enough or left them too loose.
@@preachers4135 I see loose couplers, non-existant safety chains and the occasional loose car dolly strap, anything that can go wrong, will go wrong. We once had someone come in with a car "secured" to a car hauler with enough room between the strap and the wheel for me to pull it off. It was policy at my location to have a second set of eyes look over all hookups, or to take a photo of it and upload to the contract.
I tell you being in heavy equivalent for 27 years. The old tilt trailer was much much higher. Loading an old case droit excavator 80k lbs. There's a trick to it for sure. You'll never forget the first time you load it. If you have any loose fillings in your teeth. They will come out. Back in the day you learned that as soon as that bed starts to move and you'll notice the lowboy driver will never load if he doesn't have to the heavy equipment. Here she will always leave it to the operator of the equipment. You learn pretty fast , as soon as that trailer starts to move forward you stop and as you get better at it you can only get so good. There will be a bang. 🤣 I never thought I see a trailer like that. I always had a gooseneck or at the very least a military hitch which is also known as a pinnacle Hitch. That's pretty cool. Don't need a pen. I bet you a thousand acres & The farm If DOT did not see a pin and that hitch with a load on it. He would definitely pull somebody over. Keep that paperwork with you at all times with the trailer. I would actually put a commercial glove box attached to the trailer and keep it in mirror with the registration to the trailer. That is fantastic! Love it!
That is amazing the last tilt deck I used had to keep adding weight for the tilt to come down unlike this wow
I think I just found my next trailer after just buying a new Kubota 2680, loaded out with everything including the Curtis cab, love every bit of it!!
I have a tilt deck and I love it. Beats messing with the ramps.
Great trailer and video Stan. I was talking with a customer that has this same trailer, minus the fancy orange paint. He’s a contractor with a CAT 289D2, has used the trailer daily for about three years and still says it’s the best trailer he’s owned and used. Specifically the black boards: have held up well in the Texas heat and then on the other end of the spectrum he said he has loaded and unloaded the skid steer while the deck was icy without any issues. JUST KEEP OIL OFF OF THEM. Petroleum products will soften and swell the rubber then loose adhesion with the wood. For that reason he’s had to replace a couple boards but said they were easy to source and the expense was worth the traction and safety benefits.
Texas doesn't experience ice like other parts of the country.
Try loading on a sheet of ice
Very awesome trailer. I used it have tilt deck before switching to ramps. Had a difficulty time in winter trying to load a tire skidsteer on it. Can you do a demo video with tire skidsteer on muddy or snow and ice surface?
Great trailer and great content, thanks fellas
Even when I go on holiday in St. Martin, never miss Dirt Monkey.
LOL you’re the best 👍👊
I just picked up a used 14k 22' Big Tex tilt deck for my Bobcat S220 and absolutely love it. My alternate trailer is a 14k Big Tex deckover with ramps and it is a scary proposition to put the Bobcat on it. For equipment or vehicles, my new choice is positively the tilt deck.
Comparing apples to oranges.
Your deck height is higher on a deck over.
Ramps are nice for wet slippery conditions
Stan, thanks for the great content! Always enjoy watching. Another tax deduction (in case you need another grin opportunity) tire pressure/ temperature monitors. Great indicator to prevent issues.
Excellent comparison I’ve been in the market for a tilt deck for smaller equipment.
Diamond C HDT tilt deck hauls my Kubota KX-040.
BTW, DOT in WA State requires a keeper pin in the trailer hitch regardless of what the dealer says.
When dealing with crews or different trailers. You either need safety pins in all your trailers or none at all.
I know that trailer doesn't need one but your creating a training scar with your employees. I'm telling you one day when your in a rush you'll look down and see ni safety pin and something in your brain will tell you that's okay, no matter what trailer your using and that's a bad deal.
So good on you Stan for still using one.
We went with a tilt bed trailer because other operators like to turn while on the ramps and I could not stop them unless I was right there with them. Our tilt bed has a shock absorbor to keep the bed from slamming up or down.
Tilt deck trailers are the way to go for sure! I’ve been running a 20ft pj tilt for 4 years now and I’d never go back to ramps unless absolutely necessary.
Wonderful when not loading up hill and not wet conditions or ice or mud
We slide around when ice is on the deck, heavy rain, sometimes have to move the truck opposite way and load down hill just to decrease the loading angle
Please update with how the hydrolic cylinder works in the MN cold. Great vid Stan.
A Demco latch paired with a remote control for the jack would let you line up with the backup camera and only get out of the truck to hook up power and chains
I towed my gooseneck trailer from Florida to Arizona (2,200) miles one of my hubs was always hotter than the rest but the grease didn’t do any good. I figured it must the drum brakes so I removed the brakes shoes from that drum and solved the problem. I replaced with new shoes and springs when I made it home in Arizona.
Really a great design from a strong company.
I started switching to tilt deck trailers as I hate lifting ramps up. Last summer one of my guys was using our ramp trailer and the spring came off when dropping the ramp and the spring went though his leg. Tilt deck trailers are the way to go.
Wow that sounds very painful!
Thanks for posting.
I have a 22ft full tilt deck over that I love to use.
That's a dam good trailer 👌 👏. Nice build quality.. I have a question do they have side boards for the front section that doesn't tip? If they don't I think it would be a great option to have for landscaping and builders a like great for keeping the small stuff secure on the trailer. Stay safe sir 🏴
What a beauty 😍
Tilt deck , ramps can be a pain . Nice trailer
I hear ya!
Tilt deck all day especially for bouncing from job to job. I have a big Tex and it’s ok but I want a diamond C. Thanks for the Vid very informative!!!
Glad you liked it!
Where in Wisconsin if you don’t mind me asking great video!! Gonna have to look at buying a diamond c trailer now!
One time I had the typical lift the back of the truck issue, runaway, jack knife 🔪 🤣
Athough mine happened in a different way and thats why I will share my experience learning the hard way, to save someone the devastation it can cause. I've been aware for years of putting some timber blocks at the back under a standard trailer using ramps. Having an assistant hold their foot on the truck brakes is good too. It locks all wheels including trailer brakes. My situation was a full tilt bed trailer I borrowed from a friend. I needed to move a class C motorhome. We put the motorhome up on the tilted bed. Well it wasn't quite enough weight up front to make the trailer tilt to the flat (tow position). So, my buddy gets the floor jack out and digs a little trough to slide the jack under the rear deck of the trailer. He jacks it up and it tilts into the locked position. Ok, no problem, good to go! Well NOT ! When he let the jack down to go put it away in the truck. The Dodge dually lifted enough that the back tires were kinda skipping down the DG road we parked on. Gaining speed as it left us. The steering wheel was turned a little bit and it sent it into a field that previously was roughed up by a dozer ripper blades. One guy tried to catch up to it running along side of the passenger side. Just as he got to the door handle and opened it, the truck and trailer jack knifed and chucked the guy about 30 feet into the field as the door flew open! It ripped a tire on passenger side ,outside dual off its bead. Cracked the driverside taillight lens when the motorhome bumper hit it. Cracked the driverside dually fender when trailer pinched the truck. It could have rolled the dually over. That roughed up field kinda grabbed the dually tires on the passenger side. Luckily this happened in a distance of about 150 feet, so it didn't have a chance to get too much speed. We pulled it out of the jack knife by hooking onto the back of the flatbed with friends Mack Brigadier truck. All went well pulling back straight. Ended up pulling motorhome with dually and a chain. Didn't have far to move it.
So, that was a different situation than the typical, so keep that in mind if you ever have that situation arise. Could have been much worse. This can still happen even with a trailer that tilts at the back. If its really heavy in the rear and you need to assist the bed to lock down flat, be careful.
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I was a ramp guys because like you Stan back in our day the tilters were slammers but these new Tilt trailers are awesome..
Jacob knows his stuff!
i love my Diamond C tilt deck except when i forget to get my straps out of that tool box and now you have a load on top
Good job Stan 🥃🇨🇦🤙
Thanks man!
Sounds great
We have a Construction Company up in here in Canada. We have 3 20 feet 14k Tilt Deck Trailers. We haul Bobcat 770 all over with the trailers. Easy Load Easy Unload. I would recommend for sure.
Stand up guy. Looks like a nice trailer that's for sure.
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Great content stan 👏
What's the curb weight difference between the two trailers? Would love a tilt deck but I worry how much load capacity is lost
Very informative video
Looks like a great trailer
Nice one Stan. 👍👍🏴🏴
I like my tilt decks for skidsteer and other small equipment, the one I use daily is a new "old style", we have a newer one with the hydraulic assist, so much nicer
Enjoyed the video Stan
If had to choose one I like my bwise with ramps. Can haul anything. If only hauled equipment I could see where tilt deck would be awesome.
I have a kraftsman tilt deck and I love it, the only thing I wish I did was buy 22 or 24'
I had a trailer built for me. It was from PJ, but obviously they aren't the only ones out there.
Deck-Over Tilt-Bed, power up and down, using a wireless remote control unit. Which yeah, we were losing constantly. Had the Blackwood too, which was definitely better then plain wood, but it didn't cure every weather condition. You also had to be be very scrupulous about keeping the deck clean, because little pieces of aggregate would cause way more traction loss then you'd ever think possible.
Definitely liked that trailer, because you could load and unload damn near anywhere.
It was also a Gooseneck, and had a neck-deck. It was good for cargo, and for a bucket. Even had a spare tire on a hoist tucked up under it.
And of course, I upgraded the axles, but they were still singles, so DOT didn't pay attention, yet I could carry a 12,000lb load and be legal and sub-CDL. Depending on which truck was pulling it of course... 😁
$20k trailer?
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Yes.
There were more options. Hydraulic landing gear, winch, under-bed rails for straps, so other stuff. But, yes, it was just a bit over $20k all together.
I've wanted fork pockets on my 16 ft trailer, taught myself how to stick weld and guess who got fork pockets on their trailer. Good spot to store pallet forks just in general and there when needed. Tipping the trailer though when loading, nothing worse than it tipping up about 2 ft from your truck and you tell your wife to move it before you put a hole through the door panel lol.
I’ve ran both I find the tilt deck puts less stress on the truck when loading and unloading a machine
Would be a good side by side comparison loading a track loader on both trailers and look at the rear of the truck on the difference when loading
i like the new tilt decks, they dont slam down. at least the ones I've used at work
Such a cool feature 👍
Even some or most of the old tilt trailers like you mentioned your dad wouldn't drive up on it, had basically a shock absorber to let it down slowly. I've seen a few old ones that didn't work though. The fluid leaked out around the seals over the years. Then its like not having any dampening whatsoever.
Great Information! I am running a couple of Diamond C trailers and like both of them. I went with ramps because that is what they had here in Alaska. I always thought I would choose ramps over tilt so that I did not have to deal with the ram, hoses, and fluid but i can see that I would get full use of the deck with the tilt over the ramps. I do get to put an attachment up front with the ramp trailer and then back a skid on though. SO the question remains…which one is better? I will be looking forward to your opinion after running both for awhile. Can’t wait until you have had enough time to make that video!
We're in AK as well. We have a Diamond C gooseneck with ramps and an Olympic tilt deck. I far prefer the goose with ramps in 90% of the cases. In the winter, we can't get a tracked skid steer up the tilt deck without a major hassle. That is the other major reason we didn't order a hydraulic tail gooseneck as well. The other bonus of a ramped deck over is that you can use the trailer to haul materials much easier.
I am a heavy equipment operator for a county road dept. We only use tilt deck trailers and I wouldn't have it any other way. Our triple axle tilt decks are made by Olympic and our smaller one that we use to haul our mini ex is a Diamond C. One thing I will say though for anyone who's not familiar with a tilt deck, once you feel the deck tilting stop moving. If you move the equipment while the deck tilts you can potentially damage the hydraulics.
I always back up on to the trailer so the loader counter weigh is near the middle of the trailer in stead of on the back end of the trailer which can cause trailer sway
I love my tilt deck 23' long floor, I bought it used right after I got my skid loader a month ago. Definitely better not using ramps working by myself
CTL tilt is the way to go, with my mini ex I just jump on to the deck as I have found ramps have tried to kill me more times then jumping on without them.
Load a tilt deck un hooked from truck vs conventional ramp trailer. Would be nice to have fork pockets accessible from any side of trailer. Move the spare elsewhere. Small solar charger for hydro battery.
Like your thinking man!
Cool trailer vid
Glad ya enjoyed
Hi Stanley and the Dirt Monkey crew. The trailer looks good. It would be better if there was a solar panel for the battery so you wouldn't have to have a cord to it. Stay safe Stanley amd crew.
Went with Imperial tiltbed trailers 20 years ago never looked back. Ramps are an unecessary pain on skidsteer trailers plus its easier to haul rollers, lifts, cars when needed
When not icy
I like both type of trailers ramp or tilt IT DONT MATTER TO ME as long that it is a good heavy built trailer with two or three axil's
I would love to see a video on that new mini ex and that roll off trailer you have in the back ground in your yard.
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I personally like a deckover for the added deck width but the company I work for insists on the tilt decks. Don't get me wrong, they do work well but our machines barely fit between the fenders so it's sometimes stressful loading. The latest one is a B-Wise 16K with springs. It goes down the road pretty good but the deck latching system absolutely sucks!, when it's empty the deck constantly bangs and even came unlocked on me once on the interstate. The old PJ has a far better locking system, but their powdercoating is horrible.
Very nice trailer
I had 1 bad experience with that type of tilt deck trailer and that was all it took to turn me off of them. Those with the full tilt deck are fine.
Very good video I like it you got a love the color are you sure you’re not a Tennessee fan? I’m picking up my brand new Kaufman tilt deck 22ft tilt deck !!
Tilt deck all the way Stan 👍
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I welded a large nut on my jack, after removing the handle, and use an M18 impact... works super slick and stoopid fast and no battery to charge on the trailer. I got a used epoxy coated no-tilt trailer with new axles/brakes/leds for $2k so I looked no further, and since I only use it infrequently, I am not concerned about loading speed. We have on site storage at our big jobs, so less loading and works for me. That is a beautiful piece. Do you have to have someone pull the lever (two people to load)? thanks
We love our Diamond C tilt deck, however we need to bolt a metal mesh so we can drive up in winter. Without it a bit of ice on the trailer and you can't drive up.
It seems to be an awesome trailer, my questions are, whats the quality of the wiring and hows the prep work for the paint? Everything I see up here in new england is referred to as bare builders wire meaning no loom or protection for the wiring that works for a year if your lucky, and, no one does prep for paint, meaning they spray paint straight on the bare rusty metal and it peels off in a few months. Im all about longevity, I'd love to see how it holds up overall.
As a 23 year old that does a lot of labor, thought it was unnecessary. The Hydro jack is the way to go!
Yes Stan Chevy 😎🕺🏾🕺🏾
Woot woot!!!
I like my tilt deck with at least a 8 foot stationary Jacob even puts 10 foot decks on those can you get that trailer in the wide max option… that would be cool to
We run a 24' ph tilt like this and absolutely love it. We have had it for 10 years and is hands down the way to go. Load and unload with the quickness.
I remember the days of the first Miller Tilt Top trailers. They were made like this. Not convenient for long wheel base items.