Update - I tested the RTX 4060 + Ryzen 7 7435HS LOQ here: th-cam.com/video/_B5_0BoU18o/w-d-xo.html 💻 Check Lenovo LOQ Prices: geni.us/mBbpWlp 💵 Save money on your next gaming laptop with our daily deals: gaminglaptop.deals
The fact they include a native application to undervolt deserves massive praise. Fantastic video mate, I'll be sending this to every person who asks me what budget laptop they should buy.
Your video was the only one out of the major tech channels that actualy reviewed this laptop. After looking up many different models, I decided to settle on LOQ 15i with i7 13620H and rtx 4060, my god this was one of the best choices I ever made. I literally use it everyday with 4 game engines, 3 DAWs, and lots of high-end modeling software (without even counting all kinds of popular games XD); no matter what I threw at it, the LOQ handled it really well!
I was unlucky last year cause I got an older Legion 5 model then just a few days after my unit was on transit/being shipped the LOQ devices hit the market. I could've got an equally good device while saving some money. Glad you like yours though. I must say I prefer the previous models to this year's. Even though Jarrod said the removal of the side vents didn't affect these lower end models I assume it may cause some issues on the ones with more powerful internals.
Aside from downgrading the screen peak brightness by 50 nits and downgrading all USB-A to 3.2 gen 1 (from 3.2 gen 2 in last year's LOQ that 2 out of the 3 USB-A ports it had), by biggest gripe with this updated version is that the memory speeds were downgraded on all versions with intel CPUs except the 14th gen one. (From 5200 to 4800)
I see in my local shop different specs from yours, for USD 730: Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS Memory: 8 GB SO-DIMM DDR5-5600 Graphics: RTX 3050 6GB GDDR6 Boost Clock. Is this acceptable for the price or are they short changing me in terms of the lower processor/graphics card? What would you change? Thanks so much.
I was expecting i7 14700hx with 4060 . Usually you go for the higher varient not the low ends. Hope you do a review of the maxed version with i7 14700hx and 4060
i just picked up an open box 2023 version with the 3050 for $540(tax included), feel like it’s not a bad deal at that price. haven’t fiddled with it yet but the brightness is very good. a bit heavy but that ok. could realistically get a better laptop for a bit more i think but needed something now
Good to see the FHD 144 Hz screens have decent colour accuracy compared to last year's LOQ 15/16 but response rate times definitely leave something to be desired and maximum brightness is 50 nits less than the equivalent panel from last years LOQ 15/16.
Still my dream to one day be able to buy last year's LOQ 15. Currently working part time while doing my thesis just so maybe I can afford it by next year...I hope.. They really outdid themselves with their budget gaming laptop.
Anyone with the laptop is the battery drain actually a issue when playing the average game on quiet/balance and will it run out after many hours? Ideally want to know about the 4050/4060 model since they have higher power draw.
why do they not include other legion laptop (gen 8 and maybe 7) with the lenovo vantage update to "switch to custom mode with fn Q"... with a simple update
It looks like Lenovo expect worsening of market conditions (find it difficult to ship laptops) and are downgrading their laptops across all their line-ups. This makes me think that the best option is to get something discounted as they trying to clear the 2023 models in Feb and March. Like the Legion Pro 5i 4060 that Jarred had often on his deals selection from the US or a Legion Slim 5 4060 that can be found at a good price here in Europe.
I am thinking ti get the legion pro 5i 4060, so are you getting any discount ? As you said they are trying to clear the stuff so any discounts or anything any coupons ?
@@sufiyanxstark I was thinking about the same model. I'm in Europe, but my best option is to get it from B&H Video in the US, the offer that Jarrod had in his deals - $1250, with shipping and VAT this will be 1450 euro for me. The same model in my country in Europe is $1800 and up 🤦♂ My next best option is Legion Slim 4060, Ryz 5, 16Gb, 512 SSD, no OS for 1200 euro from a local seller, but this has lower spec in every area. I'm tempted to wait another month or two for more aggressive clearing offers, but might miss these.
Hello fellow gamers, i need your help team please im on the edge of emptying my pockets for the newer LENOVO LOQ 15 I5-13450HX RTX 4060 8vRAM 16RAM , the games fps benchmark and the cooling are my top priorities, and YES I KNOW it was the 3050 here but im hesitant to trust that a 4060 instead would surpass the other (similarly priced) laptops ie the GIGABYTE G5, i would like to know if the 4060 added to the i5-13450HX combo would be fully powerd by the LOQ and also play nice with the temperatures. Please help :)
Hello Jarrod, I love your content, it's really helpful, I want to get a new laptop and I am between 2 options : Legion 5 (2022) 3060(140w) i7 12700h battery 80w or Loq 15 (2023) 4060(115w) i5 13500H battery 60w , (same SSD and ram) , which one would you recommend? They are around the same price
Hi Jarrod, So in my region the last gen 4060 LOQ shipped with a 170 watt charger unlike other regions which got a 230 watt one. Could you please run a benchmark or two on your 4060 Loq 16 with the charger which you got with the 3050 LOQ and see if there are any downsides of using a 170 watt charger? And if I were to try someone's high wattage legion charger on the Loq would it be unsafe? We've got used to interchangeable chargers with type c but with laptop chargers It's always scary to use something that didn't come with the laptop.
Hello Jarrod I’m looking to buy this exact laptop but Im not sure if I should wait and see if there’s any deals on Black Friday or are have there not been allot of sales on this model Should I just purchase it today ? Thank you for your Help
There's a version which has 14700hx + RTX 4060 (115W TGP) But it has only 170 watt charger supplied. This is worrying me, will there be any issues.. i don't know why lenovo is not giving 230 watt charger for atleast that model
@@animesh_M so hows the thermals and is 4050 good for gaming? just ordered loq 2023 version 4050 i713620h will get delivered by tomorrow so just asking how the GPU is
Well GPU performance is exactly what you see in most TH-cam videos. CPU performance is similar to 13500h or 13500hx and thermals are on the average side. I mean gpu temps are fine but CPU touches 80 - 90 on peak loads and 95 on stress test. But when I set the fans speed on max manually cpu goes to 85 max on heavy workloads.
Hi sir, tnx for the reviews I have a Lenovo Loq 2023 and its keyboard is british, want to know if the seller cheated me or if this lenovo loq really has a British keyboard?
Heyy mate ! I'm an Indian student .Should I buy acer Nitro 5 with i5 13420H with RTX 4050 (priced @ 80k Indian rupees) or MSI GF63 with i5 12450H with RTX 4050 (priced @ ₹70k ) my budget is around 70k-80k. My usages are gaming, multimedia and college work. I'll use this laptop for the next 4 yrs and above . Also I'm thinking of Playing GTA 6 on this laptop itself So could you help me decide which one is capable of handling GTA 6 and more reliable for the long term usage without any trouble and future proof one . Thank you !
@@Biotechy So was I. It had everything but this motherboard issue stopped me and all other options with same price have 45% NTSC screen. I'm a creator wanted a 100% screen
@@Abra311 Nope, Hp victus and Nitro V are alternatives but both have 45% Srgb, if you want just gaming then no problem but for content creation then you need a 100srgb monitors, other solution is to buy external monitor. Also from some research I've found out that 13 and 14 gen HX have most problem, 12 gen is less prone to motherboard failure and it mostly coming in Indian variant of LOQ, but still there are some risk, also if available you can get extended 3 years warranty.
anyone who buys this is sad sad human being... I bought mine Turkish version NOT indian and STILL got dead mobo... they said its only the 12th gen intel but I saw people in subreddit recently got F%& the same way. I also read about 13th gen and 14th gen having an inherent problem and it's not just the laptops mobos are the bad ones I do not recommend this thing it's just too risky. no one knows where the problem is coming from and it is NOT the best budget gaming laptop you can get. you better off buying anything else at least it wont leave you stranded for weeks just to replace your mobo with another dead one. be smart and get something else. performance wont mean sht if your laptop wont turn on the next day.
I am going to buy 13450HX + RTX 4050 But i have recently hearing issues about motherboard dead and Battery drian problem The battery drain is fixed with 230W charger and limiting the power levels But the HX CPU are frying the motherboards out I am afraid should i buy it or not ?
i got that specific spec, its awesome,i love the laptop,but im from Canada , we dont have complaint about dead motherboard in north america, i think lenovo sell cheap mobo to Asian countries to cut cost. We have consumer protection run by government if lenovo sell junk that dies after few days,they will be banned,acer got more complaint here compared to lenovo. to be honest i understand if you are afraid to buy lenovo if you`re from Asia right now.
Can confirm the battery drain isn't a new issue - I have a 2023 LOQ with the same 3050/charger combination and in some less optimized games the battery drains significantly, even faster than in this video. I'm still happy with the laptop overall though, no other issues.
@@lovemfsn it won't last much but if you lower the brightness to 30% and only use intergarted graphics ( make this change from bios ) vantage doesn't completely shuts the dgpu , then next in power plan switch to best power efficiency Then you will get around in the vicinity of 2 hours
@@JohnST0NES thanks, so are you confirming that it’s normal for it to not last an hour? just weird, most of the reviews I see lasted for at least 3 hours. I’m thinking my device might be faulty.
@@lovemfsn nah it should definitely last longer than an hour. try using the "hybrid-auto" or "hybrid-igpu" setting in vantage to make sure your graphics is actually turning off.
I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
The 2023 version with 4050/4060 was a blast. Has a ddr5-5600 as well with R7-7840H. With all mentioned above, I dont see much of the point to 2024 version. The changes are too insignificant.
Well, yeah. That I did. But I wrote that, because I bought a 2023 version around half a year ago with specs mentioned above (also with 2560x1440 screen) and was happy with it till now)
Hi, very good test video :) Right now, in my country, the Lenovo LOQ 15 (2024) with i5-13450HX and RTX 4060 is on sale for under 900€. I was doing some research on my own as I heard this config could have problems with thermals. As this test is done with a 3050, i was wondering if someone already got the config with the 4060 and has some insides on that topic :). Also, does the i5-13450HX bottlenecks the 4060 in any kind? Thanks a lot in advance
why do you trash on that? NVIDIA did exactly what was asked and most criticized around RTX 3050...people were screaming that 4GB VRAM is not enough so they increased it...I don't see a single issue there...
i got the 15 inch one with 4060 and i5-12450H and the amount of disgusting ghosting and also mine didnt have "RGB" keyboard and i had to return it and get a Slim 5 instead. What's the difference between this LOQ and my 15 inch LOQ that had terrible screen ghosting.. also i think i just realize thats the 2023 version..
1080p panel on last year's loq had serious ghosting issue for many people. That's why I ordered mine with 1440p panel even though 4060 may not be able to handle all games at 1440p. I'll just reduce the screen res while playing games which is much better than ghosting.
Interestingly enough I bought my LOQ with a 7640HS and RTX 4050 for around $700 CAD taxes in. Which would be about $520 USD on Black Friday. This seems a bit expensive for what amounts to a chassis refresh. This years version looks to be more cost saving than anything, while pushing out product. Just having an RTX 3050 in there you probably won't see these flying off shelves.
20:30 Look at the 4gb 3050 result next to the Arc GPU. It's average is a tad lower but the 1% lows are much better. Look like Intel are still having some driver problems in Cyberpunk. Or for that matter look at the 4gb 3050ti that's just above it, it has 1% lows that are actually better than the Arc GPUs averages while still being a 4gb card.
I just bought my own Loq with i5 13450hx and rtx 4050 the other day and so far I'm really happy. It was through your channel that I found and decided I will get this laptop vs my other choices. Thanks for your review coz it really helped!
@@Muhammad_Rifat10 I did encounter the motherboard issue. It took a month to get replaced under warranty. Now, so far so good. But they say that it might fail again. It's a growing issue with intel hx 2024 loqs
Guys i need advice on a buy. I'm looking to buy a 5600h + 3050 50w laptop with 1080P OLED. My main requirement was a solid screen for streaming as well as powerfull enough to last 10 years for a office apps, browsing & streaming use only. Basically it would be a family computer for everyone to use. My confusion is that there are other devices with i5 1340p, i5 12500h cpu but no discreet graphics & have better ports but smaller 14' screen. My findings show that these cpus are at most 10%(1340p)-20%(12500h) faster & are not worth it. Rest all the things are same at same price.
Where are the different cpu options , the different gpus options ? last year they offered every possible combination of gaming cpu-gpu , this year is like : Get (Ryzen5/i5-13th)+(3050/4050) or get lost ! unless you want to pay crazy money into the "build your own" option
Literally today I almost bought a Lenovo loq but then realized it had a rtx 2050 which is hardly better than a 1650 so I got MSI cyber 15 with a 4050 and i7 lol
@federicoemirricci8142 That 6GB of VRAM will go a long way for a lot of games. Not a lot of VRAM but still better than the 4GB 2050. Then you factor in the better specs and DLSS/FG. Even if it's lower TDP he made a good choice
Opted for the older LOQ 15. This year's seem like a worse option, unless you like the design. EDIT: aww, they only had this year's version in stock. I guess I'm gonna have to gaslight myself to enjoy this version more.
I work in IT and I can confirm that Lenovo Legion laptops with battery drain during use on AC power will damage the battery over time. Im the RMA guy at my work place.
Just to make it clear. The HDMI and the USBC when used for external monitors will always be connected to the integrated graphics and not the more powerful one Like the RTX3050? The wording was a bit confusing for me. So if I connect an external screen will I be able to play a graphically demanding game that will leverage the RTX 3050? Thank you
The opposite. If connected via USB C or HDMI it always connects to the discrete graphics (your RTX 3060 or 4060 or whatever). So it bypasses the integrated graphics (the ryzen or intel one)
Why are they realeasing crap like this? causing environmental pollution with nonsense laptops production like tese, where previous version was better (4050) and cheaper
That battery drop protection sounds just like Dell's hybrid power, will limit GPU to just 30W when there's not enough power or battery is dead. It's a little bit annoying on Dell though because that means you cannot game on AC only when your battery is dead lol.
I had an Asus tuf and it would throttle the CPU down from 65 W to 25 W the instant the battery dropped to 99%, making many games unplayable. I wish manufacturers could just include power bricks that can actually supply the laptop with enough power under load.
I just got the loq15 from Best Buy for 630, but the graphics are not that good at all not sure if I’m not doin somthing right but I play game’s like wow LoL and etc etc and the graphic look potato bad for some reason kinda like playin gta on a ps2 back in the day…..
I've recently bought LOQ 15 with 4060 and i7 13650HX. Max temperature of cores under load is 89-93 degrees celsius but 3 cores reach 98 degrees and that stresses me out. Is that a problem?
@@thedavinchi I didn't undervolt it yet. But I put a limit on temperature for cpu in Lenovo Vantage. Now it sometimes reaches 90 degrees max. That sounds more comfortable. Do you have the same issue?
If I compare this with my legion 5 2021 (15ach6h for ppl who care) the LOQ seems like a downgrade both in quality and cooling system. Even the ports are weirdly placed why everything on the right instead of left, type A USB is fine on the right for a wireless dongle but everything else I am not so sure...
I have some questions about the differences between two types of laptops: 15IRX9 with i5-13450HX and RTX 4050, and 15IAX9 with i5-12450HX and RTX 4050. Is there a significant difference in performance? Thank you.
Can you advise me if i want buy laptop which the best 1-Asus tuf gaming f15 i7 13620h rtx 4060 Or 2-Asus tuf gaming f 15 i7-13620H RTX 3070 Some people told me rtx 3070 is more powerful and will give me fps better than 4060 and powerful in engineering programs Is there a noticeable difference or is it worth paying more money to get a processor 13700h And i want to know which two laptop are better if both have same capabilities 1- Asus tuf f 15 1- Lenovo LOQ
Finally I get rid my old Asus ROG with GTX 950M which accompany me for 7 years and get that LOQ with 3050 6 Gb, but with 12th gen CPU. Great laptop for its price point 😁
i just got an asus tuf a15 it has a 6800h and a 3070 and it was the cheapest laptop i could find and to be fair its doing as good in benchamrks as some 4070s at 2x the price well overt he moon with this shame ther is no reviews of this actual model online
What crazy configs have you got in Australia? 😒 We, in Germany, have only Intel versions offered /w up to i9-14* CPUs and NVidea 4060 🤔 No AMD or ARC yet 🤔
whoever's reading this, the LOQ 15' Gen 9 (12th gen intel i5-12450HX ) is like just legit £800 (if you're signed into lenovo education) if you go with 1tb ssd and 4060 with no windows os installed do you think this is worth the purchase? (ill probably upgrade ram later)
Finally the review showed up.. was waiting patiently the whole week.. indeed, a splendid review.. just a quick question.. will there be a LOQ 16 version this year? I want to left the soon-to-be obsolete16:9 and migrate the more preferably choice 16:10 for my new laptop.. highly considering LOQ as it fits my budget perfectly.. hope you can help me answer.. many thanks
@@matthiascorner6939 well its mostly just preferences, but last years model had better screen brightness, better port placements and you can find good spec configs for some very good prices. However, this years model does have better colour accuracy, if that matters to you.
Well. Better wait for 4060 and eventual 4070 versions for serious gaming. 3050 at this price point cannot be recommended for, let's say, Elden Ring (and its DLC tonbe released soon)
I'm not a big gamer but I watched this video and decided to buy a 16" inch QHD lenovo legion 5 pro with i5 13500hx and rtx 4060 (140w) and switch from 17.3" nitro 5 gtx 1660 ti (80w) because I got a good offer for only 1k euro in lithuania, but shouldn't I worry about the cpu temperature in such a small case? 🥵
Update - I tested the RTX 4060 + Ryzen 7 7435HS LOQ here: th-cam.com/video/_B5_0BoU18o/w-d-xo.html
💻 Check Lenovo LOQ Prices: geni.us/mBbpWlp
💵 Save money on your next gaming laptop with our daily deals: gaminglaptop.deals
Jarrod are you by any chance dodging my question?
Why is there no shipping to Germany?❤️🩹
Awful screen
Can they charge at 230W?
What about the mother board issue
The fact they include a native application to undervolt deserves massive praise. Fantastic video mate, I'll be sending this to every person who asks me what budget laptop they should buy.
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Working hard and overtime also saving a lot to get a loq 16. I have never owned a laptop.
same, lesgooo
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You can do it!!
It will all be worth it! Also get the 2023 LOQ, this years version might look better but it definitely is worse in every other way imo
Worst in what other ways?@@jaerys8823
Your video was the only one out of the major tech channels that actualy reviewed this laptop. After looking up many different models, I decided to settle on LOQ 15i with i7 13620H and rtx 4060, my god this was one of the best choices I ever made. I literally use it everyday with 4 game engines, 3 DAWs, and lots of high-end modeling software (without even counting all kinds of popular games XD); no matter what I threw at it, the LOQ handled it really well!
The reviews are going to come soon enough, but with Jarrod's video and my personal digging, I agree it was a great choice!
even with just a 4060?
@@GewelReal ikr this thing is just impressive
@@GewelReal4060 is enough for most people I am using 3050ti 4 gb 😂
I was unlucky last year cause I got an older Legion 5 model then just a few days after my unit was on transit/being shipped the LOQ devices hit the market. I could've got an equally good device while saving some money. Glad you like yours though. I must say I prefer the previous models to this year's. Even though Jarrod said the removal of the side vents didn't affect these lower end models I assume it may cause some issues on the ones with more powerful internals.
Aside from downgrading the screen peak brightness by 50 nits and downgrading all USB-A to 3.2 gen 1 (from 3.2 gen 2 in last year's LOQ that 2 out of the 3 USB-A ports it had), by biggest gripe with this updated version is that the memory speeds were downgraded on all versions with intel CPUs except the 14th gen one. (From 5200 to 4800)
gotta pump those margins up!
2024 is the "get rid of leftovers" generation. Hopefully abysmal sales push prices down next year.
the fact that 3050 is still used, if the prices aren’t good, then u r just buying refreshed 2022-2023 models😂
@@shinefake48even 2021 probably.
but how about legion 5 2024 model? are they also downgraded compared to legion slim 5 2023
your vids literally made me buy the laptop, i'm rocking it for a month and a half and it's really really nice, it's the 12th gen 4050 variant
Hey man, can u tell me some things u don't like about that variant? I also wanted to get that one
I see in my local shop different specs from yours, for USD 730:
Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS
Memory: 8 GB SO-DIMM DDR5-5600
Graphics: RTX 3050 6GB GDDR6 Boost Clock.
Is this acceptable for the price or are they short changing me in terms of the lower processor/graphics card? What would you change? Thanks so much.
Man can u help me. I want know about the ram and ssd upgrade options
@@raianratul9664 i havent upgrade mine at all but yes it's upgradable, btw they made changed in the model i think the changes are better
I also want to buy the same laptop but many people are saying that after buying with in few days the mother board is dead,so what do u suggest me ?
Seriously, your video is amazing. It is easy to understand and straight to the point. Keep it up, your good work.
I was expecting i7 14700hx with 4060 . Usually you go for the higher varient not the low ends. Hope you do a review of the maxed version with i7 14700hx and 4060
Real
I also need to confirm my findings on the 14700HX LOQ.
I think the idea is "BUDGET"
up
i was expecting that instead of hx cpu, it uses meteor lake i7 ultra instead
i just picked up an open box 2023 version with the 3050 for $540(tax included), feel like it’s not a bad deal at that price. haven’t fiddled with it yet but the brightness is very good. a bit heavy but that ok. could realistically get a better laptop for a bit more i think but needed something now
Is great deal , 3050 with 6gb vram is more than enough for esport game , you have great choice
I got it for $800, must be some regional price stuff, kinda suprised when i find out, it ways more cheaper in US.
I GOT MINE OPEN BOX FOR $560 GREAT DEAL!!!!!
Good to see the FHD 144 Hz screens have decent colour accuracy compared to last year's LOQ 15/16 but response rate times definitely leave something to be desired and maximum brightness is 50 nits less than the equivalent panel from last years LOQ 15/16.
Will this be good for freelance on the go designing? Graphics, video and 3d(blender, sketchup). Need second opinion. Thank you.
Still my dream to one day be able to buy last year's LOQ 15. Currently working part time while doing my thesis just so maybe I can afford it by next year...I hope.. They really outdid themselves with their budget gaming laptop.
All the best bro.
I bought Loq 15 with 13620H and RTX 4050 working part time alongwith my studies.
@@adarshsachan1001 that's nice! I'm trying my best to save as much money as I can so I can buy one next year. That's like, my one goal this year.
@@adarshsachan1001how is the battery looking for school and gaming
@@alessio. If you're gaming then it should be plugged it to get full performance. Battery is less. I get 2:30 to 3 hours in iGPU, Quiet mode
Anyone with the laptop is the battery drain actually a issue when playing the average game on quiet/balance and will it run out after many hours? Ideally want to know about the 4050/4060 model since they have higher power draw.
That keypad flex was crazy
why do they not include other legion laptop (gen 8 and maybe 7) with the lenovo vantage update to "switch to custom mode with fn Q"... with a simple update
For the same reason they don't allow LOQ to get 64GB RAM even if it supports it as an upgrade option. To keep their other Legion laptops alive
Jarrod your content is the most informative I’ve ever seen! Keep it up!!
I am about to buy the i5 12450H with rtx 3050 6gb Lenovo LOQ. Will it have this dead motherboard issue?
My comments on this issue are in this video: th-cam.com/video/_B5_0BoU18o/w-d-xo.html
@@JarrodsTech thanks
It looks like Lenovo expect worsening of market conditions (find it difficult to ship laptops) and are downgrading their laptops across all their line-ups. This makes me think that the best option is to get something discounted as they trying to clear the 2023 models in Feb and March.
Like the Legion Pro 5i 4060 that Jarred had often on his deals selection from the US or a Legion Slim 5 4060 that can be found at a good price here in Europe.
I am thinking ti get the legion pro 5i 4060, so are you getting any discount ? As you said they are trying to clear the stuff so any discounts or anything any coupons ?
@@sufiyanxstark I was thinking about the same model.
I'm in Europe, but my best option is to get it from B&H Video in the US, the offer that Jarrod had in his deals - $1250, with shipping and VAT this will be 1450 euro for me. The same model in my country in Europe is $1800 and up 🤦♂
My next best option is Legion Slim 4060, Ryz 5, 16Gb, 512 SSD, no OS for 1200 euro from a local seller, but this has lower spec in every area.
I'm tempted to wait another month or two for more aggressive clearing offers, but might miss these.
Hello fellow gamers, i need your help team please im on the edge of emptying my pockets for the newer LENOVO LOQ 15 I5-13450HX RTX 4060 8vRAM 16RAM , the games fps benchmark and the cooling are my top priorities, and YES I KNOW it was the 3050 here but im hesitant to trust that a 4060 instead would surpass the other (similarly priced) laptops ie the GIGABYTE G5, i would like to know if the 4060 added to the i5-13450HX combo would be fully powerd by the LOQ and also play nice with the temperatures. Please help :)
Hello Jarrod, I love your content, it's really helpful, I want to get a new laptop and I am between 2 options : Legion 5 (2022) 3060(140w) i7 12700h battery 80w or Loq 15 (2023) 4060(115w) i5 13500H battery 60w , (same SSD and ram) , which one would you recommend? They are around the same price
4060 is better for games
Don't get why u don't literally play game test the games in video let us actually see
Can u test the 4060 ones too ?
Enjoyed the content
I liked. I also need to confirm my findings
They were maybe sending a 4050 later, not sure we will get that or do any further loq testing at this point
any motherboard issues on hx models . there have been lots of reports about this problem
I want to know it too
I cover mobo issues in the newer loq video, check the timestamps: th-cam.com/video/_B5_0BoU18o/w-d-xo.html
@@JarrodsTech Thank you
Hi Jarrod, So in my region the last gen 4060 LOQ shipped with a 170 watt charger unlike other regions which got a 230 watt one.
Could you please run a benchmark or two on your 4060 Loq 16 with the charger which you got with the 3050 LOQ and see if there are any downsides of using a 170 watt charger?
And if I were to try someone's high wattage legion charger on the Loq would it be unsafe?
We've got used to interchangeable chargers with type c but with laptop chargers It's always scary to use something that didn't come with the laptop.
Hello Jarrod I’m looking to buy this exact laptop but Im not sure if I should wait and see if there’s any deals on Black Friday or are have there not been allot of sales on this model
Should I just purchase it today ?
Thank you for your Help
There's a version which has 14700hx + RTX 4060 (115W TGP)
But it has only 170 watt charger supplied. This is worrying me, will there be any issues.. i don't know why lenovo is not giving 230 watt charger for atleast that model
what the heck 😑
It is giving 230W, what are you talking about? I showed it.
@makingtechfriendlyindia 1:42. But yes higher power ones should have 230W.
Please review Lenovo Loq 14th gen i7 14700hx rtx 4060❤❤
Have you checked the VRAM temperatures under stress? Many 2023 RTX4060 units are reaching >100 degrees Celsius here easily
would you consider making a review to ASUS CREATOR Q 530/540. Workstation / Gaming / Studio Really interesting.
I just ordered an Acer Nitro 5 (2023) @980$ with i712650h and RTX 4050 6gb. Is it a good deal or should I cancel it and wait ?
Let me know if anyone owns this variant
@@animesh_M so did u get it?
Yes, I bought it brother
@@animesh_M so hows the thermals and is 4050 good for gaming?
just ordered loq 2023 version 4050 i713620h
will get delivered by tomorrow so just asking how the GPU is
Well GPU performance is exactly what you see in most TH-cam videos. CPU performance is similar to 13500h or 13500hx and thermals are on the average side. I mean gpu temps are fine but CPU touches 80 - 90 on peak loads and 95 on stress test. But when I set the fans speed on max manually cpu goes to 85 max on heavy workloads.
Hi sir, tnx for the reviews
I have a Lenovo Loq 2023 and its keyboard is british, want to know if the seller cheated me or if this lenovo loq really has a British keyboard?
Jarrod does Lenovo allow undervolting the HX parts in the LOQ? Intel does allow for undervolting the HX parts.
Yes
Heyy mate ! I'm an Indian student .Should I buy acer Nitro 5 with i5 13420H with RTX 4050 (priced @ 80k Indian rupees) or MSI GF63 with i5 12450H with RTX 4050
(priced @ ₹70k ) my budget is around 70k-80k. My usages are gaming, multimedia and college work. I'll use this laptop for the next 4 yrs and above . Also I'm thinking of Playing GTA 6 on this laptop itself So could you help me decide which one is capable of handling GTA 6 and more reliable for the long term usage without any trouble and future proof one . Thank you !
I've heard that Lenovo LOQ with HX processors are having motherboard dying problems.
Yeah i heard that too. Sad i was about to buy this
@@Biotechy So was I. It had everything but this motherboard issue stopped me and all other options with same price have 45% NTSC screen. I'm a creator wanted a 100% screen
What motherboard issues? Most of my school have been using for months with no problems.
@@TheChelnov
I am facing the same situation, also need budget Dgpu with 100% display.
Have you found an alternative?
@@Abra311 Nope, Hp victus and Nitro V are alternatives but both have 45% Srgb, if you want just gaming then no problem but for content creation then you need a 100srgb monitors, other solution is to buy external monitor. Also from some research I've found out that 13 and 14 gen HX have most problem, 12 gen is less prone to motherboard failure and it mostly coming in Indian variant of LOQ, but still there are some risk, also if available you can get extended 3 years warranty.
How about LOQ 15IAX9 i5 12450HX RTX 3050? Is the display port connected directly to Discrete GPU too for that spec?
How is it for machine learning , i want to buy a budget ML laptop as well as for gaming uses?
what specs should i get the LOQ?
get the LOQ 12th/13th gen 4050/4060
@@wz-fv2ix What about these specs?
Processor: 13th Generation Intel® Core™ i7-13620H Processor (E-cores up to 3.60 GHz P-cores up to 4.90 GHz)
Memory : 16 GB DDR5-5200MHz (SODIMM) - (2 x 8 GB)
Solid State Drive: 512 GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4 TLC
Graphic Card: NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4060 Laptop GPU 8GB GDDR6
@@akshajagarwal3519 It's really good choice. The specs are good enough for most AI applications
anyone who buys this is sad sad human being...
I bought mine Turkish version NOT indian and STILL got dead mobo... they said its only the 12th gen intel but I saw people in subreddit recently got F%& the same way.
I also read about 13th gen and 14th gen having an inherent problem and it's not just the laptops mobos are the bad ones
I do not recommend this thing it's just too risky. no one knows where the problem is coming from and it is NOT the best budget gaming laptop you can get. you better off buying anything else at least it wont leave you stranded for weeks just to replace your mobo with another dead one. be smart and get something else. performance wont mean sht if your laptop wont turn on the next day.
What cpu did your model have
Youre goddamn right, amma just buy the rtx 3050 Asus laptop
@@PcKratos good for you
@@Name-bb8wo what cpu does you laptop have
@@PcKratos i7 13650HX 4060 Customized.
Is the omen transcend 14 coming soon Jarrod? I am interested in that vs open box g14 4060.
He never covers the Omen
We're expecting one to arrive in February!
@@JarrodsTech Cool! Could you please try different USB-C chargers to see what works with it since its the main power delivery for the device.
I am going to buy 13450HX + RTX 4050
But i have recently hearing issues about motherboard dead and Battery drian problem
The battery drain is fixed with 230W charger and limiting the power levels
But the HX CPU are frying the motherboards out
I am afraid should i buy it or not ?
i got that specific spec, its awesome,i love the laptop,but im from Canada , we dont have complaint about dead motherboard in north america, i think lenovo sell cheap mobo to Asian countries to cut cost. We have consumer protection run by government if lenovo sell junk that dies after few days,they will be banned,acer got more complaint here compared to lenovo. to be honest i understand if you are afraid to buy lenovo if you`re from Asia right now.
@@RedditThree how is the laptop now? do you do any video rendering or heavy gaming to push the cpu?
Can confirm the battery drain isn't a new issue - I have a 2023 LOQ with the same 3050/charger combination and in some less optimized games the battery drains significantly, even faster than in this video. I'm still happy with the laptop overall though, no other issues.
bro any motherboard dead issue ?
How long does your battery last? Mine doesn’t even last for an hour, and I wasn’t even gaming. Is that normal? LOQ 15 rx 16gb
@@lovemfsn it won't last much but if you lower the brightness to 30% and only use intergarted graphics ( make this change from bios ) vantage doesn't completely shuts the dgpu , then next in power plan switch to best power efficiency
Then you will get around in the vicinity of 2 hours
@@JohnST0NES thanks, so are you confirming that it’s normal for it to not last an hour? just weird, most of the reviews I see lasted for at least 3 hours. I’m thinking my device might be faulty.
@@lovemfsn nah it should definitely last longer than an hour. try using the "hybrid-auto" or "hybrid-igpu" setting in vantage to make sure your graphics is actually turning off.
I'm seeing online loq has lot of motherboard issue. Is it true should I reconsider buying loq laptop
I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
I asked Lenovo and they said that they have found a very small number of cases (relative to the total number of LOQ laptops sold) and are actively looking into it.
@@JarrodsTechwhat a silly bot you got there jarrod
Те що мені було потрібно, дякую!)
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Does having only 1 stick of ram affect performance at all?
The 2023 version with 4050/4060 was a blast. Has a ddr5-5600 as well with R7-7840H. With all mentioned above, I dont see much of the point to 2024 version. The changes are too insignificant.
You make a crucial mistake my sir. You forgot the 14700HX
Well, yeah. That I did. But I wrote that, because I bought a 2023 version around half a year ago with specs mentioned above (also with 2560x1440 screen) and was happy with it till now)
Yes, the 2024 versions look like a downgrade to be honest
the way they design LOQ 2024 version is worse than 2023.
the charging port is not behind anymore so yea
Hi,
very good test video :)
Right now, in my country, the Lenovo LOQ 15 (2024) with i5-13450HX and RTX 4060 is on sale for under 900€. I was doing some research on my own as I heard this config could have problems with thermals.
As this test is done with a 3050, i was wondering if someone already got the config with the 4060 and has some insides on that topic :).
Also, does the i5-13450HX bottlenecks the 4060 in any kind?
Thanks a lot in advance
making 3050 a 6gb version is desperate from nvidia to fix their big mistake
why do you trash on that? NVIDIA did exactly what was asked and most criticized around RTX 3050...people were screaming that 4GB VRAM is not enough so they increased it...I don't see a single issue there...
@@Ragy-cause 4gb Vram is like a store selling you a food that gonna expire the next day for full price
@@Nogardtist so why are you still hating the 6gb version?
@@MrRandomguyTom they even made a 6gb version then thats what 4050 is for
Yea the 6gb 3050 is solid
i got the 15 inch one with 4060 and i5-12450H and the amount of disgusting ghosting and also mine didnt have "RGB" keyboard and i had to return it and get a Slim 5 instead. What's the difference between this LOQ and my 15 inch LOQ that had terrible screen ghosting.. also i think i just realize thats the 2023 version..
1080p panel on last year's loq had serious ghosting issue for many people. That's why I ordered mine with 1440p panel even though 4060 may not be able to handle all games at 1440p. I'll just reduce the screen res while playing games which is much better than ghosting.
Interestingly enough I bought my LOQ with a 7640HS and RTX 4050 for around $700 CAD taxes in. Which would be about $520 USD on Black Friday. This seems a bit expensive for what amounts to a chassis refresh. This years version looks to be more cost saving than anything, while pushing out product. Just having an RTX 3050 in there you probably won't see these flying off shelves.
please review Lenovo LOQ 2024 14th Gen i7 14700hx and rtx 4060
And i want it as soon as possible because you review the laptops best way possible.
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20:30 Look at the 4gb 3050 result next to the Arc GPU. It's average is a tad lower but the 1% lows are much better. Look like Intel are still having some driver problems in Cyberpunk. Or for that matter look at the 4gb 3050ti that's just above it, it has 1% lows that are actually better than the Arc GPUs averages while still being a 4gb card.
Lenovo loq rtx 2050 2023 model vs Lenovo loq arc 2024 create vedio for comparison
I just bought this 2024 model yesterday, so far I’m very impressed!
Any problems you discovered because I am also going to buy one
@@Bahririyansh No, I haven’t had any problems. I’ve just had it for like 3 weeks though.
How is the performance compared to the rtx 2050 variant?
@@neru5336 I don’t have the 2050 variant
@@ARC_sailor have you try checking youtube for the 2050 variant? Im sorry if i ask too much but are you willing to do it?
Doesn't this have a motherboard issue? I want to buy this or legion but scared it will break down.
I wish there was a config with the grey keyboard, but with this cleaner backside design.
Sir please make a benchmark on Games like CS2 and valorant, for this LOQ 2024 i5 & nvidia 3050
This feels like a step backwards from last years loq laptops
agreed
I hope you checkout the amd version(s) also ;)
I just bought my own Loq with i5 13450hx and rtx 4050 the other day and so far I'm really happy. It was through your channel that I found and decided I will get this laptop vs my other choices. Thanks for your review coz it really helped!
Bro I'm trying to get the same model as well. What's the sRGB on this thing and also how does it perform in gaming?
100% sRGB @@ushabhat9776
what is your laptop perform now did u have any issue right now ?
@@Muhammad_Rifat10 I did encounter the motherboard issue. It took a month to get replaced under warranty. Now, so far so good. But they say that it might fail again. It's a growing issue with intel hx 2024 loqs
@@mizuaki1186 ahh so sad 😢
Still waiting for LOQ i7 14700hx model jarrod😅
just a week ago I purchased LOQ 15 2023 model with i7 13620H and RTX 4060.
How is it bro
that's excellent for it's cost of Rs.90000 only if you can't get the AMD variant
@@makingtechfriendlyindia where do you get it for 90k man? Best deal i could find was ₹1 lakh 5k without offers on amazon for 4060 variant.
@@Premium2023oct pretty good for my 3d modelling, animation and rendering work. Also great at playing shooter games like CS2 and Valorant
Same
how much 2 slot ssd max storage capacity in lenovo loq 15IRX9 laptop ?
If you're here randomly like this comment
Is this good for video editing and live streaming...?
Yes very good
Hello can i ask the name of the more expensive one?
Not the same port in the back. The USB 3.2 Gen 2 last year model then they give us now a USB 3.2 Gen 1 only.
Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 PHN16-71-59F1
• Processor - Intel® Core™ i5-13500HX
• Graphics - NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 4050
• Memory - 8GB of DDR5 4800Mhz
• Storage - 512GB PCIe Gen4, 16 Gb/s, NVMe
• Resolution - 1920 x1080
• Panel size - 16"
• Battery - 90 Wh 4-cell Li-ion battery
Lenovo LOQ 15IRX9 83DV00E8PH
• Processor - Intel® Core™ i5-13450HX
• Graphics - NVIDIA® GeForce RTX™ 4050
• Memory - 8 GB of DDR5
• Storage - 512GB NVMe SSD
• Resolution - FHD (1920x1080)
• Panel size - 15.6-inch
• Battery - Integrated 60Wh
help me pick guys I need a laptop for my architecture school
You've covered every little detail about this laptop which anyone would want to know. Thank you
What about the mother board issues???
Are there?
Guys i need advice on a buy.
I'm looking to buy a 5600h + 3050 50w laptop with 1080P OLED.
My main requirement was a solid screen for streaming as well as powerfull enough to last 10 years for a office apps, browsing & streaming use only. Basically it would be a family computer for everyone to use.
My confusion is that there are other devices with i5 1340p, i5 12500h cpu but no discreet graphics & have better ports but smaller 14' screen.
My findings show that these cpus are at most 10%(1340p)-20%(12500h) faster & are not worth it. Rest all the things are same at same price.
i5-12500H is much better
Hey jarrod, I can't decide between Legion 7 or zephyrus G16. Can you help me choose, I want something that can keep me good for 5 years at least.
What are the specs of both?
Where are the different cpu options , the different gpus options ? last year they offered every possible combination of gaming cpu-gpu , this year is like : Get (Ryzen5/i5-13th)+(3050/4050) or get lost ! unless you want to pay crazy money into the "build your own" option
Literally today I almost bought a Lenovo loq but then realized it had a rtx 2050 which is hardly better than a 1650 so I got MSI cyber 15 with a 4050 and i7 lol
MSI cyber may have a 4050 but it's poor cooling made the design lower the tgp so you aren't getting many advantages apart from dlss in some games
@federicoemirricci8142 That 6GB of VRAM will go a long way for a lot of games. Not a lot of VRAM but still better than the 4GB 2050.
Then you factor in the better specs and DLSS/FG. Even if it's lower TDP he made a good choice
Opted for the older LOQ 15. This year's seem like a worse option, unless you like the design.
EDIT: aww, they only had this year's version in stock. I guess I'm gonna have to gaslight myself to enjoy this version more.
LOQ Arc comes in the same price range as last year IdeaPad Gaming 3 which comes with R5 6600H+3050
What is your opinion now? Either lenovo ideapad gaming rz 6600h 3050 or this loq version of i5 12450hx arc a530 .
I work in IT and I can confirm that Lenovo Legion laptops with battery drain during use on AC power will damage the battery over time. Im the RMA guy at my work place.
Is it a widespread issue or it's only concerning LOQ?
Just to make it clear.
The HDMI and the USBC when used for external monitors will always be connected to the integrated graphics and not the more powerful one Like the RTX3050? The wording was a bit confusing for me. So if I connect an external screen will I be able to play a graphically demanding game that will leverage the RTX 3050?
Thank you
The opposite. If connected via USB C or HDMI it always connects to the discrete graphics (your RTX 3060 or 4060 or whatever). So it bypasses the integrated graphics (the ryzen or intel one)
@@ufaceboy100 Thank you for clearing this up for me!
@@craigedwards2411 no probs !
Why are they realeasing crap like this? causing environmental pollution with nonsense laptops production like tese, where previous version was better (4050) and cheaper
That battery drop protection sounds just like Dell's hybrid power, will limit GPU to just 30W when there's not enough power or battery is dead.
It's a little bit annoying on Dell though because that means you cannot game on AC only when your battery is dead lol.
I had an Asus tuf and it would throttle the CPU down from 65 W to 25 W the instant the battery dropped to 99%, making many games unplayable. I wish manufacturers could just include power bricks that can actually supply the laptop with enough power under load.
I just got the loq15 from Best Buy for 630, but the graphics are not that good at all not sure if I’m not doin somthing right but I play game’s like wow LoL and etc etc and the graphic look potato bad for some reason kinda like playin gta on a ps2 back in the day…..
I've recently bought LOQ 15 with 4060 and i7 13650HX. Max temperature of cores under load is 89-93 degrees celsius but 3 cores reach 98 degrees and that stresses me out. Is that a problem?
did you undervolt the cpu ?
@@thedavinchi I didn't undervolt it yet. But I put a limit on temperature for cpu in Lenovo Vantage. Now it sometimes reaches 90 degrees max. That sounds more comfortable. Do you have the same issue?
thats bad . any solution u found?
It's good laptop to buy please i need answer ASAP
If I compare this with my legion 5 2021 (15ach6h for ppl who care) the LOQ seems like a downgrade both in quality and cooling system. Even the ports are weirdly placed why everything on the right instead of left, type A USB is fine on the right for a wireless dongle but everything else I am not so sure...
I have some questions about the differences between two types of laptops: 15IRX9 with i5-13450HX and RTX 4050, and 15IAX9 with i5-12450HX and RTX 4050. Is there a significant difference in performance? Thank you.
You won't notice any difference in games
How do you think compare to 2021 legion 5 pro : ryzen 7 5800h rtx3070 in overall?
Can you advise me if i want buy laptop which the best
1-Asus tuf gaming f15 i7 13620h rtx 4060
Or
2-Asus tuf gaming f 15 i7-13620H
RTX 3070
Some people told me rtx 3070 is more powerful and will give me fps better than 4060 and powerful in engineering programs
Is there a noticeable difference or is it worth paying more money to get a processor 13700h
And i want to know which two laptop are better if both have same capabilities
1- Asus tuf f 15
1- Lenovo LOQ
Hey Jarrod I was hoping on a video about the LOQ 15ARP9 as it is the only laptop in the market without an i-gpu and I was considering buying it.
Probably won't get it, I assume it's much the same but with bad battey life due to using dGPU only.
Can I use 230W charger on a LOQ laptop that came with 170w charger?
Finally I get rid my old Asus ROG with GTX 950M which accompany me for 7 years and get that LOQ with 3050 6 Gb, but with 12th gen CPU. Great laptop for its price point 😁
oh no, i just brought the 2023's loq, and saw this was a despair.
i just got an asus tuf a15 it has a 6800h and a 3070 and it was the cheapest laptop i could find and to be fair its doing as good in benchamrks as some 4070s at 2x the price well overt he moon with this shame ther is no reviews of this actual model online
Hey Jarrod, could you review the MSI Katana GF76 11UE? I have it and its pretty good!
What crazy configs have you got in Australia? 😒
We, in Germany, have only Intel versions offered /w up to i9-14* CPUs and NVidea 4060 🤔
No AMD or ARC yet 🤔
whoever's reading this, the LOQ 15' Gen 9 (12th gen intel i5-12450HX ) is like just legit £800 (if you're signed into lenovo education) if you go with 1tb ssd and 4060 with no windows os installed
do you think this is worth the purchase? (ill probably upgrade ram later)
Finally the review showed up.. was waiting patiently the whole week.. indeed, a splendid review.. just a quick question..
will there be a LOQ 16 version this year?
I want to left the soon-to-be obsolete16:9 and migrate the more preferably choice 16:10 for my new laptop.. highly considering LOQ as it fits my budget perfectly.. hope you can help me answer.. many thanks
I'm not a very techy person. But would you guys prefer the LOQ 15 (2023) or the LOQ 15 (2024)?
and is still worth to buy loq 2024 with rtx 3050 6gb?
This is also something I wanted to know.
older version for sure
why the older version? 🙃 would love to hear the reasons, as I am stuck between those two models as well :-/
@@matthiascorner6939 well its mostly just preferences, but last years model had better screen brightness, better port placements and you can find good spec configs for some very good prices. However, this years model does have better colour accuracy, if that matters to you.
plastic laptop with such a screen wobble... how it is a laptop of the year?!... when lenovo legion slim 7 is way better
I found one in Aussie for 1300AUD , Brand New with Ryzen 7 7840HS with an RTX 3050 and 16GB ram , 2024 build , I wonder if I should get it?
Well. Better wait for 4060 and eventual 4070 versions for serious gaming. 3050 at this price point cannot be recommended for, let's say, Elden Ring (and its DLC tonbe released soon)
I'm not a big gamer but I watched this video and decided to buy a 16" inch QHD lenovo legion 5 pro with i5 13500hx and rtx 4060 (140w) and switch from 17.3" nitro 5 gtx 1660 ti (80w) because I got a good offer for only 1k euro in lithuania, but shouldn't I worry about the cpu temperature in such a small case? 🥵