Been looking for some tweaks to my bone spirit build. Looks like it’s gonna be more of complete redo other than a couple of pieces. Awesome guide, thank you.
Was wondering about the spirit cooldown on a ring since I was stuck at 8.5cd. Didn’t roll cd on either 4/8 on focus. Didn’t even think about splinters. Not a fan of the autopilot builds so this build guide was great!
Keys are mostly up to preference. I personally like to put the curse on the main attack button and assign it to the tilde (~) key so it is right next to 1, but that is just a preference. Skill cycle is pretty straight forward. 1. Make sure Bone Storm is up. 2. Curse enemies. 3. Corpse Tendril or Bone Prison to apply vulnerable (optional). 4. Start blasting.
Hi, great video and nice build! I've begun working the Maxroll version of Bone Spirit at the moment, but I like what I see on your version. Just a couple of questions, if I may. 1. You seem to focus more on tempering Barrier Generation while Maxroll are tempering increased size of Corpse Tendrils and Decrepify Size. Is this because you want to focus more on survivability? 2. The vulnerability from bone splinters have 20% to activate for 2 seconds, while the Corpse Tendrils have 100% chance to activate for 3 seconds. Am I right, and if so why would you prefer bone splinters? 3. At the moment I have access to all Aspects, and I have the Banished Lord Talisman plus Blood Moon Breeches. At what point would you say it will be useful to put on the two uniques? Right now I hav 100% crit chance, great resource generation, but bad cooldown reduction. Cheers!
Thank you! My reponses below: 1. Yes. One of the changes with Season 4 is that the Shielding Storm aspect now works on percent of base life (~8000 at level 100) vs max life (25k+) as it did in the past. This greatly reduces its effectiveness so the barrier generation is to offset some of this. This is also why I went with Ultimate Shadow since the DoT applied by that aspect will trigger the Shielding Storm aspect more often, which also offsets some of the loss. 2. You shoot 18 Bone Splinters every time you cast with the Shattered Spirit aspect and you cast constantly, so the vulnerable uptime should be near 100% despite the low percentage. My thought was to use the bone splinters to apply vulnerable and use the blood orb node on Corpse Tendrils for healing, but really either work fine. 3. Unfortunately, this build is very clunky without getting to 0 cooldown since the goal is to attack fast to trigger overpower and the non-overpower hits aren't very high. One thing that might make it a bit easier is that technically you do not need to get Bone Spirit's cooldown to
I have now invested a considerable amount of time into this build and finally managed to reduce the cooldown of Bone Spirit to about 0.5 seconds, increase the Crit Rate to 66.6%, and boost the Armor to 9244. Therefore, I was able to remove all skill points from Inspiring Leader and one point from Spiked Armor. I invested one point in Hewed Flesh, one point in Ghastly Blood Mist, and one point in Plagued Corpse Tendrils to generate more corpses and make enemies vulnerable more often. Where would you recommend investing the last skill point? Could Necrotic Carapace be useful? Additionally, I tested the Doombringer with this build. Although it makes you significantly more robust, it significantly reduces damage. With the Doombringer, I can't exceed 70 million Overpower Crits.
I think both Hewed Flesh and Necrotic Carapace are valid options. If you only have 1 point into Hewed Flesh, putting an additional point would double your chances of generating a corpse, so might be a good choice if you use Grasping Veins a lot. Getting fortify through Necrotic Carapace would also be useful, both for the damage reduction and the bonus to overpower. If you have the point invested into Initiate's Bone Splinters, you might reallocate that into Hewed Flesh, as well as the third node in Bone Prison to get 3/3 Hewed Flesh. You should trigger it a reasonably often with Bone Spirit, Bone Storm, and Bone Splinters through the Shattered Spirit Aspect. Then you can put the remaining point into Necrotic Carapace to generate some fortify whenever Hewed Flesh procs.
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for your answer. Those are interesting ideas and I will test them. I do not use the Grasping Veins aspect anymore because my Crit Rate is high enough. Instead, I am using the Conceited Aspect.
@@EurodanceSnob Hey mate, great build. There is a lot of old discussions that say hewed flesh is unable to generate fortify with necrotic carapace, any idea if this is true? Thinking of removing the armour skill points for hew/necrotic combo.
Hi, i enjoyed your guide, very concise and detailed. With recent changes in mid-season patch as well as variation using defender minion+requiem aspect to gain max essence, can you relook on this bone spirit build? Which is better: bone spirit full sacrifice minion or with minion (for requiem). Will the paragon board changes as well?
Honestly, without a Rapid Ossification fix, it is probably better to run the Requiem version. I don't have the gear to do that version at the moment but there are various guides available. I think the Maxroll guide is one of them.
Hi, this is a great build! I just switched over from the Maxroll one. However, upon comparing your build with another Overpower build, I was wondering why you opted for Critical Strike Damage for the 1H Scythe instead of Overpower? Also, could you please explain why we take Aspect of Ultimate Shadow? Thanks again for a great build!
Thank you! As for why I have critical strike damage on the scythe, it is probably because I didn't feel like spending any more gold rolling for overpower. But the other reason is that the values for critical strike damage vs overpower aren't too different (I think it's 50 vs 60 at base), and since we crit every hit, the damage bonus will apply for every hit, including the ones that overpower, whereas the overpower bonus would only apply for the crits that overpower, which is every third hit or so. Ultimate Shadow is to improve the functionality of the Shielding Storm aspect. Shielding Storm creates a barrier every time Bone Storm does damage and Ultimate Shadow causes Bone Storm to apply a DoT, which ticks twice a second. This causes Bone Storm to generate a barrier at a higher rate, which is good for survivability in higher tier pits.
@@EurodanceSnob Wow, the Ultimate Shadow insight makes a lot of sense! At the moment, I've switched Ultimate Shadow to Torment for Essence Regen since I've whittled down my Bone Spirit to about 7.5 seconds but am not creating enough regen to hit Overpower every 3rd Bone Spirit (my regen is taking too long so I'm hitting Overpower every 4-5th hit). Would you happen to have any more thoughts on this? Subbed! :)
After 1 week of running Helltides back to back, I still don't have nearly the affix or temper rolls on items. So there's no point in even going the Pit lol Trying to fit in more maximum life and INT as well here, so only having 1 greater affix per item wouldn't cut it for me. 40k Life and 1,600 INT is the bare minimum I would shoot for.
Thanks man, yes I'm on my 1st Necro for farming with minions. Levelled another one to 100 just for trying Bone Spirit now. Slowly getting the pieces =) Masterworking gold cost gets lowered to 25% on May 28, so the wait was worth it =)
So I hit all the breakpoints and can clear tier 100NmD and up to 65 pit, but the problem is max essence and regeneration. My overpower crits are consistently 60-140 million, but fishing for them can take 10-15 seconds and you just get overrun. I dont think the build really works well without a shaco. No chance of killing 200 bosses or tier 100 pit without it. Not sure if I missing somehting. All master working is at level 8, but not 12 yet. Think I am going to switch to rogue. I dont see this build being viable without shaco
Make sure your cooldown is at zero seconds and that you have Shattered Spirit on one of your rings as well as the Macabre skills generate essence temper on one of your rings. The idea is to spam it nonstop until you get overpowers since you generate essence with every cast and have 0 cooldown. The build was originally intended to work with Rapid Ossification so that you can have Macabre skills generate essence tempers on both rings, but they didn't fix it with the May 28 patch, so the build is definitely running under potential.
@@EurodanceSnobOk, I will check. My bone spirit cd is around 8 seconds, but when I use decrepify, it takes 1 second off for each enemy. So its around 1-2 second cd right now, but my essence aspect at 200% regen, doesnt seem to always work correctly snd it comes back very slowly. I got a +3 rapid ossification on a tempering and realized it didnt do anything. So you think I need more CDR? I will double check my ring aspects when I get home. I appreciate the response. I can see the value in the build. It just feels like max essence and regen are killing the build
Yes, you need sufficient CDR to hit 7 seconds in order to get 0 cooldown. The build doesn't really work without 0 cooldown. The 200% essence aspect, I am assuming is the Aspect of Torment, only works on Essence regeneration. If you have essence per second on gear, it will increase that, and it will increase your base essence generation of 3 per second, but it won't increase any essence gained from the Shattered Spirit Aspect or the Macabre Skills Generate Essence temper. So, if you don't have essence per second on gear, that aspect won't do much. 3 increased by 170% is around 8 per second.
Very good and helpfull guide my dude, thx. I was just wondering we can do some sort of fortify to this build to overpower dmg? You think that would be worth it ? im now with 100% crit and 7.2cd on bone spirit and thinking i lack some dmg. I was thinking on fortify ou trying for more CD and run two +essence to macabre skills that should help with the dmg a lot. Thoughts?
At the moment, at least one of the rings has to be Bone Spirit cooldown in order to be able to spam Bone Spirit. If Rapid Ossification is fixed/reversed to the way it was before, then yes, it would be preferable to run Macabre skill essence tempers on both rings, and being able to do so would increase the damage a lot. Regarding fortify, Exhumation is an option, but the problem is when there are not many corpses, such as on bosses. An alternative is to reallocate points somewhere to Hewed Flesh and Necrotic Carapace, which would generate some corpses as well as provide fortify when doing so. If you can reach 100% crit chance without Inspiring Leader, that might be one place, and if you can reach armor cap without the armor passive, that is another place. If you don't need Bone Prison or Corpse Tendrils, that is another option to reallocate to get 3 points.
@@EurodanceSnob I've been getting full fortify after 3 bone storm cast and if you dont loose shield its stays till the end. ill try the lucky chance stuff now thx my dude.
@@xlxdeboxlx3767 +20 bonestorm +10bone spirit passive ( if you choose) + 6 paragon + 18 inspiring leader and + bone crits temper if you still didnt get it
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for your answer. So attack speed affects bone spirit CD? Do you still recommend using attack speed or switching to another affix?
Attack speed is probably still good for the build. Best alternative is probably Intelligence. Attack speed does not reduce cooldown but the build gets Bone Spirit to 0 cooldown by getting cooldown to 7 seconds and crit chance to 100% (Enhanced Bone Spirit reduces cooldown by 7 seconds on hit if it crits) so having higher attack speed allows faster spam of Bone Spirit. This version of the build was really made with the idea that Rapid Ossification would be fixed in Season 4, but it never ended up being fixed (it will be next season), so it is probably not as effective as other versions of Bone Spirit at the moment.
great video! is there a way of reaching out to you via discord or something? I have a bone spirit necro with shaco, the grandfather, doombringer and all the non-uber uniques relevant to this build and would love to have a chat/guidance regarding how to minmax the hell out of it. they might be useful for your content as well. there's a video on my profile that showcases what I have. cheers!
Thank you! Right now, the best way to reach me is actually via these comments, and I try to respond to any questions or input, so feel free to ask any questions or provide any feedback.
I know I might be a bit late for you to see this but I'm a bit confused on how to mange essence. I haven't fully dived into the build yet as I'm getting the items I need before that but I'm looking over it a few times and I just don't see much resource generation, is it just shattered spirits?
It's a combination the Macabre Skills Generate Essence temper, which generates a base amount of essence and the Shattered Spirits Aspect which generates essence from the splinters. The essence generated from these two sources is then increased by the resource generation stat on Harlequin Crest and Banished Lord's Talisman.
@@EurodanceSnob Ah thank you, I've seen a few different versions of bone spirit but yours made the most sense that was the only thing I wasn't getting, slowly working towards the gear itself it looks like a great build!
Rapid Ossification works to reduce the cooldown of Bone Storm and Bone Prison, but not Bone Spirit. I am hoping that they fix it in the next patch, but it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes.
@@EurodanceSnob yeah same... man this fu....m sucks so hard i mean..... nvm tho, btw. You think going intelligence on rings instead crit dmg is better bcs more resist Stack etc? I mean we already stacking crit dmg via bone skills temper right
The ideal is to get 100% crit chance without Swelling Curse. That way, you can replace it with Grasping Veins or Conceited Aspect for more damage. But if you can't reach 100 without it, and you are overcapped with it, replacing crit chance with intelligence is a good idea.
If you can reach 100% crit chance without Inspiring Leader or have enough armor to hit cap without the armor passive, you can reallocate the points from there to Hewed Flesh for corpses. But single target is pretty much the same as anything else, you get up close, try to get as many of the Bone Splinters from Shattered Spirit to hit it, and start spamming. If they decide to reverse or fix Rapid Ossification, single target damage should be much better since you will be able to run 2 rings with macabre skills generate essence.
Okay i have a stupid question now :/ Why we use 1 Hand Scythe thing and not a Sword wich also gives another 17.5% more Crit dmg since we 100% crit anway?
Just a preference; either work fine. There is temper for resource while wielding a scythe that might be useful if you are using the same weapon but a different build.
Hi, it's me again. Do you still use this build? I do, but I have a problem now. Since the new patch gave us a pet and the pet is counting as a minion, we cannot use the glyph Sacrificial, and the skill points in Stand Alone are now wasted. Do you have any solutions for that? Maybe we can change the glyph with Control, Scourge, or Darkness, but I have no idea what to do with Stand Alone right now...
I plan on revisiting this build if they ever fix Rapid Ossification. Regarding the pet situation, my recommendation is replace Amplify with Control on the starting board and switch Sacrificial with Amplify until they fix the pet issue. All are Int glyphs, so they should be interchangable. As for Stand Alone, the pet reduces the damage reduction bonus from 18% to 16%, which is relatively minor. The only content I see where this would matter might be really high tier pits, but in those cases, you can remove the pet at the wardrobe and re-equip it until they fix the bug.
@@petesagat8952 Amplify is still on the board, but its position is changed. Sacrificial is replaced with Amplify. Amplify's original place is replaced with Control.
Why scythe for MH? Also, if my gear sucks, and I dont have a good offhand with CDR, would Lidless Wall help? Its more defense, and more bonestorms is more CDR right?>
Bone storm provides damage reduction and critical hit chance, but not cooldown reduction, so it would help you reach the 100% crit chance cap, but not the CDR cap. Unfortunately, without a focus, you won't be able to reach 0 cooldown on Bone Spirit without getting very lucky with masterworking. As for the scythe, that's just a preference. There is a temper for Resource Generation while wielding a scythe which has higher rolls than the other resource generation temper, so using a scythe might be useful if you want to use that temper. Also, the scythe provides some life on kill which is useful since necromancer doesn't have much healing, and the extra crit damage from a sword is very small compared to your other crit damage bonuses.
@@bberk40 Since you will be getting so much bonus damage from tempers, the additional 20% will have very little impact. The higher attack speed might be good if Rapid Ossification were fixed.
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for the response! I was trying to understand that; Rapid ossification currently is spend 100 essence in one occurrence for the cdr, correct? Not like how it works with Banished?
@@bberk40 Yes, Rapid Ossification reduces the cooldown of bone skills by 1.5 seconds for every 100 essence spent. It used to reduce the cooldown of Bone Spirit as well, but as of Season 4, it does not. It is still not clear whether this is a bug or intentional.
This is due to a combination of the Macabre Skills Generate Primary Resource temper, which generates essence when Bone Spirit is cast, the Shattered Spirit Aspect, which fires Bones Splinters when you cast Bone Spirit which also generate essence when they hit, and the resource generation from Harlequin Crest and Banished Lord's Talisman, which increases the amount of essence generated from the previously mentioned two sources.
@eurodancesnob thank you! I copied your exact build I’m just missing the shako and some master working levels. That and the paragon points is all I’m missing. The build is impressive. But I’m getting smacked at tier 40 and higher pit runs. My crit chance is 500% and my op is 1300. What is your opinion on swapping out bone prison for minions??
Minions could help by distracting, but you would also lose 18% damage reduction from Stand Alone, so I am not so sure. The Necromancer is pretty squishy by nature, so having all the damage reduction you can get would help a lot. Make sure you are also casting decrepify on everything before engaging. That is another 20%+ damage reduction there, along with the other benefits. Besides that getting the last paragon points would also allow you to get Scent of Death, which gives you 15% damage reduction when there is a corpse nearby, so, as boring as it could be, getting all the Lilith statues might help a lot with survivability.
Yes, this was mentioned in the video. The main part of the video addresses how to gear with the current state of Rapid Ossification. The appendix explains how to gear if it is fixed.
Yes, it would provide a lot of survivability and the extra health would contribute to some overpower damage that partially compensates for the loss of a tempers slot.
@@andybui9818 If you can get to 100% crit chance, the best to replace is Swelling Curse. If not, you can consider Osseous Gale if you can maintain Bone Storm uptime.
@xlxdeboxlx3767 I just put the overpower version together yesterday still .5 seconds off the bone spirit cooldown breakpoint but yeah it def feels clunky before then but I was doing 70 plus nmds before getting blood Moon breaches or banished lord. Lots of setup time with mobs and it's hard to clean up trash in the early stage especially if bone spirit misses the crit
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Rapid Ossification will be fixed in Season 5.
Ok this guide is legit af and showed me what my problem is. Probably should have finished before commenting. Instant follow and well done sir
Underrated youtuber at the moment.
Been looking for some tweaks to my bone spirit build. Looks like it’s gonna be more of complete redo other than a couple of pieces. Awesome guide, thank you.
Was wondering about the spirit cooldown on a ring since I was stuck at 8.5cd. Didn’t roll cd on either 4/8 on focus. Didn’t even think about splinters. Not a fan of the autopilot builds so this build guide was great!
awesome guide, you'll get more views and subscribers fast i hope with this high quality
thats a real guide. gj
Great guide! Also, suggest you quickly explain how you setup your keys or how you work your skills? )
Keys are mostly up to preference. I personally like to put the curse on the main attack button and assign it to the tilde (~) key so it is right next to 1, but that is just a preference. Skill cycle is pretty straight forward.
1. Make sure Bone Storm is up.
2. Curse enemies.
3. Corpse Tendril or Bone Prison to apply vulnerable (optional).
4. Start blasting.
Tnks for the build i was waiting for this build - now i need the sound "nuclear launch detected" from starcraft 1 when i do booone spirit boom
or command & conquer haha
Wow! You’re going to make me start a Necro because of this build. I can’t wait to try it. Any chance you’re going to do barb build in the future?
Yes, probably within 1 week.
Awesome! Can’t wait for your next video. Keep up the great work!
Hi, great video and nice build! I've begun working the Maxroll version of Bone Spirit at the moment, but I like what I see on your version. Just a couple of questions, if I may.
1. You seem to focus more on tempering Barrier Generation while Maxroll are tempering increased size of Corpse Tendrils and Decrepify Size. Is this because you want to focus more on survivability?
2. The vulnerability from bone splinters have 20% to activate for 2 seconds, while the Corpse Tendrils have 100% chance to activate for 3 seconds. Am I right, and if so why would you prefer bone splinters?
3. At the moment I have access to all Aspects, and I have the Banished Lord Talisman plus Blood Moon Breeches. At what point would you say it will be useful to put on the two uniques? Right now I hav 100% crit chance, great resource generation, but bad cooldown reduction.
Cheers!
Thank you! My reponses below:
1. Yes. One of the changes with Season 4 is that the Shielding Storm aspect now works on percent of base life (~8000 at level 100) vs max life (25k+) as it did in the past. This greatly reduces its effectiveness so the barrier generation is to offset some of this. This is also why I went with Ultimate Shadow since the DoT applied by that aspect will trigger the Shielding Storm aspect more often, which also offsets some of the loss.
2. You shoot 18 Bone Splinters every time you cast with the Shattered Spirit aspect and you cast constantly, so the vulnerable uptime should be near 100% despite the low percentage. My thought was to use the bone splinters to apply vulnerable and use the blood orb node on Corpse Tendrils for healing, but really either work fine.
3. Unfortunately, this build is very clunky without getting to 0 cooldown since the goal is to attack fast to trigger overpower and the non-overpower hits aren't very high. One thing that might make it a bit easier is that technically you do not need to get Bone Spirit's cooldown to
I have now invested a considerable amount of time into this build and finally managed to reduce the cooldown of Bone Spirit to about 0.5 seconds, increase the Crit Rate to 66.6%, and boost the Armor to 9244. Therefore, I was able to remove all skill points from Inspiring Leader and one point from Spiked Armor. I invested one point in Hewed Flesh, one point in Ghastly Blood Mist, and one point in Plagued Corpse Tendrils to generate more corpses and make enemies vulnerable more often. Where would you recommend investing the last skill point? Could Necrotic Carapace be useful? Additionally, I tested the Doombringer with this build. Although it makes you significantly more robust, it significantly reduces damage. With the Doombringer, I can't exceed 70 million Overpower Crits.
I think both Hewed Flesh and Necrotic Carapace are valid options. If you only have 1 point into Hewed Flesh, putting an additional point would double your chances of generating a corpse, so might be a good choice if you use Grasping Veins a lot. Getting fortify through Necrotic Carapace would also be useful, both for the damage reduction and the bonus to overpower. If you have the point invested into Initiate's Bone Splinters, you might reallocate that into Hewed Flesh, as well as the third node in Bone Prison to get 3/3 Hewed Flesh. You should trigger it a reasonably often with Bone Spirit, Bone Storm, and Bone Splinters through the Shattered Spirit Aspect. Then you can put the remaining point into Necrotic Carapace to generate some fortify whenever Hewed Flesh procs.
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for your answer. Those are interesting ideas and I will test them. I do not use the Grasping Veins aspect anymore because my Crit Rate is high enough. Instead, I am using the Conceited Aspect.
@@EurodanceSnob Hey mate, great build. There is a lot of old discussions that say hewed flesh is unable to generate fortify with necrotic carapace, any idea if this is true? Thinking of removing the armour skill points for hew/necrotic combo.
@@SteveSerednicki That was true in the past, but it seems to be working as of this season.
Hi, i enjoyed your guide, very concise and detailed. With recent changes in mid-season patch as well as variation using defender minion+requiem aspect to gain max essence, can you relook on this bone spirit build? Which is better: bone spirit full sacrifice minion or with minion (for requiem). Will the paragon board changes as well?
Honestly, without a Rapid Ossification fix, it is probably better to run the Requiem version. I don't have the gear to do that version at the moment but there are various guides available. I think the Maxroll guide is one of them.
Hi, this is a great build! I just switched over from the Maxroll one. However, upon comparing your build with another Overpower build, I was wondering why you opted for Critical Strike Damage for the 1H Scythe instead of Overpower? Also, could you please explain why we take Aspect of Ultimate Shadow? Thanks again for a great build!
Thank you! As for why I have critical strike damage on the scythe, it is probably because I didn't feel like spending any more gold rolling for overpower. But the other reason is that the values for critical strike damage vs overpower aren't too different (I think it's 50 vs 60 at base), and since we crit every hit, the damage bonus will apply for every hit, including the ones that overpower, whereas the overpower bonus would only apply for the crits that overpower, which is every third hit or so.
Ultimate Shadow is to improve the functionality of the Shielding Storm aspect. Shielding Storm creates a barrier every time Bone Storm does damage and Ultimate Shadow causes Bone Storm to apply a DoT, which ticks twice a second. This causes Bone Storm to generate a barrier at a higher rate, which is good for survivability in higher tier pits.
@@EurodanceSnob Wow, the Ultimate Shadow insight makes a lot of sense! At the moment, I've switched Ultimate Shadow to Torment for Essence Regen since I've whittled down my Bone Spirit to about 7.5 seconds but am not creating enough regen to hit Overpower every 3rd Bone Spirit (my regen is taking too long so I'm hitting Overpower every 4-5th hit). Would you happen to have any more thoughts on this? Subbed! :)
What's your base cooldown reduction (before masterworking) on your helm, focus, and ring?
Thx buddy
After 1 week of running Helltides back to back, I still don't have nearly the affix or temper rolls on items.
So there's no point in even going the Pit lol
Trying to fit in more maximum life and INT as well here, so only having 1 greater affix per item wouldn't cut it for me.
40k Life and 1,600 INT is the bare minimum I would shoot for.
Good luck! The build is pretty gear intensive. I played a different build while gearing up for it.
Thanks man, yes I'm on my 1st Necro for farming with minions.
Levelled another one to 100 just for trying Bone Spirit now.
Slowly getting the pieces =)
Masterworking gold cost gets lowered to 25% on May 28, so the wait was worth it =)
So I hit all the breakpoints and can clear tier 100NmD and up to 65 pit, but the problem is max essence and regeneration. My overpower crits are consistently 60-140 million, but fishing for them can take 10-15 seconds and you just get overrun. I dont think the build really works well without a shaco. No chance of killing 200 bosses or tier 100 pit without it. Not sure if I missing somehting. All master working is at level 8, but not 12 yet. Think I am going to switch to rogue. I dont see this build being viable without shaco
Make sure your cooldown is at zero seconds and that you have Shattered Spirit on one of your rings as well as the Macabre skills generate essence temper on one of your rings. The idea is to spam it nonstop until you get overpowers since you generate essence with every cast and have 0 cooldown. The build was originally intended to work with Rapid Ossification so that you can have Macabre skills generate essence tempers on both rings, but they didn't fix it with the May 28 patch, so the build is definitely running under potential.
@@EurodanceSnobOk, I will check. My bone spirit cd is around 8 seconds, but when I use decrepify, it takes 1 second off for each enemy. So its around 1-2 second cd right now, but my essence aspect at 200% regen, doesnt seem to always work correctly snd it comes back very slowly. I got a +3 rapid ossification on a tempering and realized it didnt do anything. So you think I need more CDR? I will double check my ring aspects when I get home. I appreciate the response. I can see the value in the build. It just feels like max essence and regen are killing the build
Yes, you need sufficient CDR to hit 7 seconds in order to get 0 cooldown. The build doesn't really work without 0 cooldown. The 200% essence aspect, I am assuming is the Aspect of Torment, only works on Essence regeneration. If you have essence per second on gear, it will increase that, and it will increase your base essence generation of 3 per second, but it won't increase any essence gained from the Shattered Spirit Aspect or the Macabre Skills Generate Essence temper. So, if you don't have essence per second on gear, that aspect won't do much. 3 increased by 170% is around 8 per second.
Very good and helpfull guide my dude, thx. I was just wondering we can do some sort of fortify to this build to overpower dmg? You think that would be worth it ? im now with 100% crit and 7.2cd on bone spirit and thinking i lack some dmg. I was thinking on fortify ou trying for more CD and run two +essence to macabre skills that should help with the dmg a lot. Thoughts?
Ideia is to get exumation instead of territorial perhaps
At the moment, at least one of the rings has to be Bone Spirit cooldown in order to be able to spam Bone Spirit. If Rapid Ossification is fixed/reversed to the way it was before, then yes, it would be preferable to run Macabre skill essence tempers on both rings, and being able to do so would increase the damage a lot.
Regarding fortify, Exhumation is an option, but the problem is when there are not many corpses, such as on bosses. An alternative is to reallocate points somewhere to Hewed Flesh and Necrotic Carapace, which would generate some corpses as well as provide fortify when doing so. If you can reach 100% crit chance without Inspiring Leader, that might be one place, and if you can reach armor cap without the armor passive, that is another place. If you don't need Bone Prison or Corpse Tendrils, that is another option to reallocate to get 3 points.
@@EurodanceSnob I've been getting full fortify after 3 bone storm cast and if you dont loose shield its stays till the end. ill try the lucky chance stuff now thx my dude.
How do you get to 100% crit? I dont understand. Im at 43% and dont have anything else to put crit chance on
@@xlxdeboxlx3767 +20 bonestorm +10bone spirit passive ( if you choose) + 6 paragon + 18 inspiring leader and + bone crits temper if you still didnt get it
Hello dude, thanks for the guide. I have a big doubt, why the gloves and rings have attack speed.
When I made the video, the idea was to spam Bone Spirit as fast as possible to get the Overpowers as quick as possible.
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for your answer. So attack speed affects bone spirit CD? Do you still recommend using attack speed or switching to another affix?
Attack speed is probably still good for the build. Best alternative is probably Intelligence. Attack speed does not reduce cooldown but the build gets Bone Spirit to 0 cooldown by getting cooldown to 7 seconds and crit chance to 100% (Enhanced Bone Spirit reduces cooldown by 7 seconds on hit if it crits) so having higher attack speed allows faster spam of Bone Spirit. This version of the build was really made with the idea that Rapid Ossification would be fixed in Season 4, but it never ended up being fixed (it will be next season), so it is probably not as effective as other versions of Bone Spirit at the moment.
Hey can this build hold its own in PvP? Just asking before I switch
This is not really meant to be a PvP build so it would probably not be very good against builds that are specialized for PvP.
My goal for the season is to put together an exodia variant of bone spirit using Shako, Grandfather, banished lord, and pants 😂
great video! is there a way of reaching out to you via discord or something?
I have a bone spirit necro with shaco, the grandfather, doombringer and all the non-uber uniques relevant to this build and would love to have a chat/guidance regarding how to minmax the hell out of it. they might be useful for your content as well.
there's a video on my profile that showcases what I have. cheers!
Thank you! Right now, the best way to reach me is actually via these comments, and I try to respond to any questions or input, so feel free to ask any questions or provide any feedback.
If u use bone prison, 'Sacrificial' glyph activate?
I thought bone prison skill is treated as minons.
I think that was a bug that was fixed, so it should be okay.
I know I might be a bit late for you to see this but I'm a bit confused on how to mange essence. I haven't fully dived into the build yet as I'm getting the items I need before that but I'm looking over it a few times and I just don't see much resource generation, is it just shattered spirits?
It's a combination the Macabre Skills Generate Essence temper, which generates a base amount of essence and the Shattered Spirits Aspect which generates essence from the splinters. The essence generated from these two sources is then increased by the resource generation stat on Harlequin Crest and Banished Lord's Talisman.
@@EurodanceSnob Ah thank you, I've seen a few different versions of bone spirit but yours made the most sense that was the only thing I wasn't getting, slowly working towards the gear itself it looks like a great build!
Would grandfather be a good option for this build?
You need a focus to hit the necessary cooldown to get Bone Spirit to 0 seconds on crit, so a two-hander won't work with this version of the build.
Cooldown reduction is so rare
So is Rapid Ossification not working at all in any shape or form now?
3 skills points are 3 skill points that can be used somewhere else then?
Rapid Ossification works to reduce the cooldown of Bone Storm and Bone Prison, but not Bone Spirit. I am hoping that they fix it in the next patch, but it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes.
Thank you for all the good info! =)
hey you think they will fix the rapid ossification with bone spirit bug, today with patch ? i hope so... because this would be insane
I tested and Rapid Ossification is NOT fixed as of May 28. But at least barbs get to keep their (totally intended) damage multipliers for bash. 🥲
@@EurodanceSnob yeah same... man this fu....m sucks so hard i mean..... nvm tho, btw. You think going intelligence on rings instead crit dmg is better bcs more resist Stack etc? I mean we already stacking crit dmg via bone skills temper right
The ideal is to get 100% crit chance without Swelling Curse. That way, you can replace it with Grasping Veins or Conceited Aspect for more damage. But if you can't reach 100 without it, and you are overcapped with it, replacing crit chance with intelligence is a good idea.
How do you fight single target bosses with this build? For example, how do you get corpses for the Corpse Tendrils skill from the single target boss?
If you can reach 100% crit chance without Inspiring Leader or have enough armor to hit cap without the armor passive, you can reallocate the points from there to Hewed Flesh for corpses. But single target is pretty much the same as anything else, you get up close, try to get as many of the Bone Splinters from Shattered Spirit to hit it, and start spamming. If they decide to reverse or fix Rapid Ossification, single target damage should be much better since you will be able to run 2 rings with macabre skills generate essence.
@@EurodanceSnob Cool, thanks a lot for your answer. Great Guide btw ;)
Okay i have a stupid question now :/ Why we use 1 Hand Scythe thing and not a Sword wich also gives another 17.5% more Crit dmg since we 100% crit anway?
Just a preference; either work fine. There is temper for resource while wielding a scythe that might be useful if you are using the same weapon but a different build.
@@EurodanceSnob Ah kk Thank you :D
Why is bone spirit damage temper is better then bone ciritcal damage?
The range of Bone Spirit damage is higher.
How does this fare against tormented Uber bosses?
It does enough damage, but you will need to dodge the mechanics. It's currently not as strong as it could be beause of the Rapid Ossification issue.
Hi, it's me again. Do you still use this build? I do, but I have a problem now. Since the new patch gave us a pet and the pet is counting as a minion, we cannot use the glyph Sacrificial, and the skill points in Stand Alone are now wasted. Do you have any solutions for that? Maybe we can change the glyph with Control, Scourge, or Darkness, but I have no idea what to do with Stand Alone right now...
I plan on revisiting this build if they ever fix Rapid Ossification. Regarding the pet situation, my recommendation is replace Amplify with Control on the starting board and switch Sacrificial with Amplify until they fix the pet issue. All are Int glyphs, so they should be interchangable. As for Stand Alone, the pet reduces the damage reduction bonus from 18% to 16%, which is relatively minor. The only content I see where this would matter might be really high tier pits, but in those cases, you can remove the pet at the wardrobe and re-equip it until they fix the bug.
@@EurodanceSnob Why would you switch those? Amplify doesnt state anything about not having minons out.
@@petesagat8952 Amplify is still on the board, but its position is changed. Sacrificial is replaced with Amplify. Amplify's original place is replaced with Control.
@@EurodanceSnob Ah gotcha.
Why scythe for MH? Also, if my gear sucks, and I dont have a good offhand with CDR, would Lidless Wall help? Its more defense, and more bonestorms is more CDR right?>
Bone storm provides damage reduction and critical hit chance, but not cooldown reduction, so it would help you reach the 100% crit chance cap, but not the CDR cap. Unfortunately, without a focus, you won't be able to reach 0 cooldown on Bone Spirit without getting very lucky with masterworking.
As for the scythe, that's just a preference. There is a temper for Resource Generation while wielding a scythe which has higher rolls than the other resource generation temper, so using a scythe might be useful if you want to use that temper. Also, the scythe provides some life on kill which is useful since necromancer doesn't have much healing, and the extra crit damage from a sword is very small compared to your other crit damage bonuses.
@@EurodanceSnob What about a dagger for attack speed and 20% to close?
@@bberk40 Since you will be getting so much bonus damage from tempers, the additional 20% will have very little impact. The higher attack speed might be good if Rapid Ossification were fixed.
@@EurodanceSnob Thanks for the response! I was trying to understand that; Rapid ossification currently is spend 100 essence in one occurrence for the cdr, correct? Not like how it works with Banished?
@@bberk40 Yes, Rapid Ossification reduces the cooldown of bone skills by 1.5 seconds for every 100 essence spent. It used to reduce the cooldown of Bone Spirit as well, but as of Season 4, it does not. It is still not clear whether this is a bug or intentional.
Is the passive fixed?
It's still not fixed. Hoping they fix it in the mid-season patch next week, but not optimistic.
How do you get so much essence generation?
This is due to a combination of the Macabre Skills Generate Primary Resource temper, which generates essence when Bone Spirit is cast, the Shattered Spirit Aspect, which fires Bones Splinters when you cast Bone Spirit which also generate essence when they hit, and the resource generation from Harlequin Crest and Banished Lord's Talisman, which increases the amount of essence generated from the previously mentioned two sources.
Im running this build. My bone spirit hits for 25-55 million, but my ult is doing 33k damage. I dont know whats wrong with my build at lvl 100
How did you get so many paragon points? I didn’t have enough to complete your guide and I’m 100
You might need to collect all the Liltih statues. Doing so will give you an additional 25 points.
Let's say you dint have all the statues, what could you leave out
You could probably leave out the final board with Scent of Death, but it is better to have all the points.
@eurodancesnob thank you! I copied your exact build I’m just missing the shako and some master working levels. That and the paragon points is all I’m missing. The build is impressive. But I’m getting smacked at tier 40 and higher pit runs. My crit chance is 500% and my op is 1300. What is your opinion on swapping out bone prison for minions??
Minions could help by distracting, but you would also lose 18% damage reduction from Stand Alone, so I am not so sure. The Necromancer is pretty squishy by nature, so having all the damage reduction you can get would help a lot. Make sure you are also casting decrepify on everything before engaging. That is another 20%+ damage reduction there, along with the other benefits. Besides that getting the last paragon points would also allow you to get Scent of Death, which gives you 15% damage reduction when there is a corpse nearby, so, as boring as it could be, getting all the Lilith statues might help a lot with survivability.
hi, you can do pit 100 ?
Yes, the damage is sufficient to do pit 100.
Pretty sure rapid ossification is bugged rn
Yes, this was mentioned in the video. The main part of the video addresses how to gear with the current state of Rapid Ossification. The appendix explains how to gear if it is fixed.
can we use doombringer on this?
Yes, it would provide a lot of survivability and the extra health would contribute to some overpower damage that partially compensates for the loss of a tempers slot.
@@EurodanceSnob thank you will try this now :)
@@EurodanceSnob what aspect is more forgiving to give away for a doom bringer?
@@andybui9818 If you can get to 100% crit chance, the best to replace is Swelling Curse. If not, you can consider Osseous Gale if you can maintain Bone Storm uptime.
Level 88 still no shattered splinter aspect. Falling asleep playing minion necro until then 🥱
Good luck!
I swtched from minion to this build at lvl 100 and its damn near unplayable without perfect gear
@xlxdeboxlx3767 I just put the overpower version together yesterday still .5 seconds off the bone spirit cooldown breakpoint but yeah it def feels clunky before then but I was doing 70 plus nmds before getting blood Moon breaches or banished lord. Lots of setup time with mobs and it's hard to clean up trash in the early stage especially if bone spirit misses the crit