Had the pleasure to meet and chat with Zane this past Sunday at Los Cab in Orange County. An absolute class act of a guy that took the time to chat for several minutes about India and some non-pickleball stuff. Watched him a play a couple of games with his partner Travis. Great stuff and will definitely be rooting for his continued success in the future.
Great interview with Dan. I really like his honest feedback/take on paddles, testing, current issues, etc. Thanks for having him on. Oh ... and you guys did well too ;)
wow.. Thanks for getting Dan on the pod. Very interesting insight on the paddle market and the future. Loving the B2B skins idea. Will be on the look out in May for this to go live! #PickleballChris #OptahealthAndWellness #TylerWrenProPickleball #Pickleball
Love this, Zane! Regarding the baseball bat analogy, yes, the below-MLB leagues (College all the way down to Little League) use metal bats, BUT, they also created BBCOR bats which lower the exit velocity of metal bats because they were super dangerous to pitchers. I submit that many amateur players, including myself, do not enjoy playing against the hot paddles like the Gearbox Pro...it changes the game for the worse for us too!
Agree 100%!!! This crazy push for more and more power is making the game worse. It is driven by the manufacturers and PPA and USAP need to step up and take control of the sport with spin and power regulations before it gets worse and as we see it is getting worse by the day.
PIKKL from Minnesota. Local Midwest Company. There replaceable Facing is A great Idea. Will be a the Future of Paddles, Especially Rec Players. Paddle Power is out of control, Pickleball was started as a game of Control. May we the Players Support Companies that are leading the Paddles in a ethical direction. May indoor Courts Ban to Powerful paddles. Or Soon Ill play Pickleball with a Aluminum Baseball bat. No really. Thanks Zane for your thoughts and being Truthful.
I hope they don't just limit the paddles used by the pros. They may need it for more entertaining games but amateurs need paddle limits for safety reasons and, arguably, more fun as well. And Dan is right--we don't need an arm's race in paddle speed. $280 for a paddle that doesn't last a year is ridiculous.
Still waiting for my "pre-Ordered" Skins. Hoping to be able to bring back some of my smooth faced paddles. Hoping they are delivered this week Dan. Patents are expensive, so costs will reflect that. I'm wanting to go with Zane on better control and spin. I want to shape a pickleball like a ping pong ball. The robot for paddle swinging (like for golf glubs) is the ideal way to measure. Chris has a type of radar gun that also measures spin. Great to hear Dan speak on the "tech" of paddles Looking forward to more from PKKL.
they should just hire me to be the arbiter on all paddles. give me 30 seconds with a paddle and i'll give it a pass fail based purely on vibes and my gut instincts which i have honed over the years
@@Mr.DJonesI don’t miss. I’ve also made the same offer to the PPA to video call me in to resolve all line calls within 15 seconds but we haven’t been able to agree to terms yet.
The problem with "self regulating" is there will always be that company that is willing to go outside the "standards" to sell paddles. And if the governing body of paddle manufacturers has no authority at actual events, then its all for nothing
@@woodsonsanders1112 The paddle companies should not be setting the standards, it is not their role and it will take us further and further down this rabbit hole of unlimited power and ruin the game further.
Do they have to be thermoformed? My analysis showed a significant statistical difference in power and pop when comparing thermoformed and non-thermoformed data. Raw data source comes from John Kew's database and if anyone wants to see that I'm more than happy to share. What does this mean? A pro player can generate plenty of power on their own - so they will do fine with sandwich paddles. When my old shoulder needs a boost - I'd like to get a little help from the paddle.
PPA and USAP need to team up and decide on the testing technology and set a box for spin and power. Do not let the paddle companies decide on the direction of the game as they are now. Remember, their goal is to sell paddles, so we see the push for more and more powerful paddles and new and innovative technologies to keep folks buying new paddles. I get it, they want to make money, but not at the expense of the game. Once the boxes for spin and power are set, then they can develop newer technologies, but they have to fit in the box of limitations. It makes no sense to allow the paddle companies to get together and set the standards. This is not their sport, they are manufactures of equipment to be used in the sport and the equipment needs to be regulated.
We all know the majority of sponsored pros get special paddles, which are not the ones available to the public. Sucks we have to be at a place like this in pickleball, greed has ruined the sport
I hate to say it but it's going to take a top player getting eye damage from a strong hit to their face before any paddle tech is controlled. Zane is 100% correct about the baseball analogy, pros don't need the best possible technology to hit hard and add spin
They should regulate all sports and slow down Tennis, Racquetball, Baseball etc... let's get it down to only 10mph...*_)(&*_(*&)*&^(*&^(*&^(*&^ no running fast, no throwing hard, no hard hitting period. Football should go to touch....No dunking in Basketball.
The whiners at this time out weight the innovators. 3500 rpm would make the game so much more interesting! Everyone is trying to turn the guys game into what the women’s game is, can’t imagine what the women’s game will turn into, or will they allow the women to use Gen 3 paddles and men Gen 1 and please don’t let athletic people play rec games….or they will have to play Gen 1 paddles and non athletic Gen 3 paddles.. everyone gets a participation medal for playing!
If they really want to limit the power on the paddles, why wouldn’t they use a metric like smash factor on golf clubs : the ratio of swing speed to ball speed? Clubs are limited to 1.5, why can’t paddles have the same type of limit? Surely a golf simulator that can measure spin, swing speed, ball speed, etc should be able to translate to a pickleball swing, right?
The Dink continues to disappoint from a news perspective ... Why are we getting a recap of a tournament that was two weekends ago? And why don't they have accurate information on Iggy's injury. He's a top 5/top 10 player ... Do some reporting.
Had the pleasure to meet and chat with Zane this past Sunday at Los Cab in Orange County. An absolute class act of a guy that took the time to chat for several minutes about India and some non-pickleball stuff. Watched him a play a couple of games with his partner Travis. Great stuff and will definitely be rooting for his continued success in the future.
Great interview with Dan. I really like his honest feedback/take on paddles, testing, current issues, etc. Thanks for having him on. Oh ... and you guys did well too ;)
I like this Pikkl guy. He knows his stuff
Dang, that John Kew shade… 😂 he’s wonderful, check out his database.
wow.. Thanks for getting Dan on the pod. Very interesting insight on the paddle market and the future. Loving the B2B skins idea. Will be on the look out in May for this to go live!
#PickleballChris
#OptahealthAndWellness
#TylerWrenProPickleball
#Pickleball
Zane- watch a John Kew test. He is a smart dude who does testing right.
How do Zane and Thomas not know who John Kew is????
How have Zane and Thomas not heard of John Kew? They obviously aren’t paddle nerds
Yeah, they'll get their minds blown if they run into a farmer lankey review
😂😂😂
Love this, Zane! Regarding the baseball bat analogy, yes, the below-MLB leagues (College all the way down to Little League) use metal bats, BUT, they also created BBCOR bats which lower the exit velocity of metal bats because they were super dangerous to pitchers. I submit that many amateur players, including myself, do not enjoy playing against the hot paddles like the Gearbox Pro...it changes the game for the worse for us too!
Agree 100%!!! This crazy push for more and more power is making the game worse. It is driven by the manufacturers and PPA and USAP need to step up and take control of the sport with spin and power regulations before it gets worse and as we see it is getting worse by the day.
Great podcast with Dan at PIKKL❣️❣️❣️
PIKKL from Minnesota. Local Midwest Company. There replaceable Facing is A great Idea. Will be a the Future of Paddles, Especially Rec Players. Paddle Power is out of control, Pickleball was started as a game of Control. May we the Players Support Companies that are leading the Paddles in a ethical direction. May indoor Courts Ban to Powerful paddles. Or Soon Ill play Pickleball with a Aluminum Baseball bat. No really. Thanks Zane for your thoughts and being Truthful.
I hope they don't just limit the paddles used by the pros. They may need it for more entertaining games but amateurs need paddle limits for safety reasons and, arguably, more fun as well. And Dan is right--we don't need an arm's race in paddle speed. $280 for a paddle that doesn't last a year is ridiculous.
Well said.... -we don't need an arm's race in paddle speed. That is exactly what is happening
All for a paddle that the spin does drop off considerably after a month, a year would be huge!
I'd love to get my Ex's face on one of those skins.... 🤣😂
Is Dan the Gear Tie and PCA racer guy?
Still waiting for my "pre-Ordered" Skins. Hoping to be able to bring back some of my smooth faced paddles. Hoping they are delivered this week Dan.
Patents are expensive, so costs will reflect that.
I'm wanting to go with Zane on better control and spin. I want to shape a pickleball like a ping pong ball.
The robot for paddle swinging (like for golf glubs) is the ideal way to measure. Chris has a type of radar gun that also measures spin.
Great to hear Dan speak on the "tech" of paddles Looking forward to more from PKKL.
Hybrid = aggressive and for the Win, a good shot to have in general.
they should just hire me to be the arbiter on all paddles. give me 30 seconds with a paddle and i'll give it a pass fail based purely on vibes and my gut instincts which i have honed over the years
Matty, that's basically what they do now. Of course, they accidentally miss a few players.
@@Mr.DJonesI don’t miss. I’ve also made the same offer to the PPA to video call me in to resolve all line calls within 15 seconds but we haven’t been able to agree to terms yet.
42:30 surprised that Selkirk wasn’t mentioned! 😮
Can't wait for Dink Minor Leagues in December at Missouri Pickleball Club!
Hybrid for the Win..also can be singles pass
Paddles that hit hard sell and manufacture brands know that. The gearbox raises a red flag with me. Nobody is protecting the rec player
In one month the price went up 25%…19.99 now.
What is the spin rate on the Zane themed paddles?
3500!
The problem with "self regulating" is there will always be that company that is willing to go outside the "standards" to sell paddles. And if the governing body of paddle manufacturers has no authority at actual events, then its all for nothing
Exactly. It’s strange to me that the people that are recommending this don’t understand that very obvious fact.
@@woodsonsanders1112 The paddle companies should not be setting the standards, it is not their role and it will take us further and further down this rabbit hole of unlimited power and ruin the game further.
@@raybrown1892 agree with you 100%. It needs to be done by a regulating organization that is completely separate from any companies that make paddles
Way to rock the ORC lid!
I call the hybrid the dive shot.
Do they have to be thermoformed? My analysis showed a significant statistical difference in power and pop when comparing thermoformed and non-thermoformed data. Raw data source comes from John Kew's database and if anyone wants to see that I'm more than happy to share. What does this mean? A pro player can generate plenty of power on their own - so they will do fine with sandwich paddles. When my old shoulder needs a boost - I'd like to get a little help from the paddle.
PPA and USAP need to team up and decide on the testing technology and set a box for spin and power. Do not let the paddle companies decide on the direction of the game as they are now. Remember, their goal is to sell paddles, so we see the push for more and more powerful paddles and new and innovative technologies to keep folks buying new paddles. I get it, they want to make money, but not at the expense of the game. Once the boxes for spin and power are set, then they can develop newer technologies, but they have to fit in the box of limitations. It makes no sense to allow the paddle companies to get together and set the standards. This is not their sport, they are manufactures of equipment to be used in the sport and the equipment needs to be regulated.
We all know the majority of sponsored pros get special paddles, which are not the ones available to the public. Sucks we have to be at a place like this in pickleball, greed has ruined the sport
Same paddles they sell, just they use new ones every tournament or Selkirks every other game….
I hate to say it but it's going to take a top player getting eye damage from a strong hit to their face before any paddle tech is controlled. Zane is 100% correct about the baseball analogy, pros don't need the best possible technology to hit hard and add spin
They should regulate all sports and slow down Tennis, Racquetball, Baseball etc... let's get it down to only 10mph...*_)(&*_(*&)*&^(*&^(*&^(*&^
no running fast, no throwing hard, no hard hitting period. Football should go to touch....No dunking in Basketball.
The whiners at this time out weight the innovators. 3500 rpm would make the game so much more interesting! Everyone is trying to turn the guys game into what the women’s game is, can’t imagine what the women’s game will turn into, or will they allow the women to use Gen 3 paddles and men Gen 1 and please don’t let athletic people play rec games….or they will have to play Gen 1 paddles and non athletic Gen 3 paddles.. everyone gets a participation medal for playing!
If they really want to limit the power on the paddles, why wouldn’t they use a metric like smash factor on golf clubs : the ratio of swing speed to ball speed? Clubs are limited to 1.5, why can’t paddles have the same type of limit? Surely a golf simulator that can measure spin, swing speed, ball speed, etc should be able to translate to a pickleball swing, right?
Well this aged very well lol
The Dink continues to disappoint from a news perspective ... Why are we getting a recap of a tournament that was two weekends ago? And why don't they have accurate information on Iggy's injury. He's a top 5/top 10 player ... Do some reporting.
This is why I love mainline selkirk paddles, MADE IN THE USA. Don't have to worry about any of that garbage QC chinesium
Super boring infomercial