Chris, you talk about how many cheaper paddles perform around the same as the Perseus. I think a video comparing cheaper paddles to more expensive (big name) paddles, such as the perseus would do really well.
Aw, you did us wrong Chris. 🤣 You’ve got to compare the look of our sun lens to the other sun lenses. Clear lenses from any company never look as good as a sun lens. Appreciate the shout! New models coming soon. 🕶️
Ria eyewear for the win!!!! I’ve had mine since October 2023. No issues with fogging up doesn’t even feel like they are on at all. Bit pricey but worth it if it means I get to play pickleball and play without any hesitation. I played against someone with the new gear box paddle and the ball flys off that paddle. One hit to the eye with that ball and it’s game over for your vision. Model name is called Reflex Clear HD if anyone is wondering.
Big fan of you and Will! I happen to have been in the eyewear business both designing and bringing eyewear to market for over 25 years. There are certain materials in frames and lenses that are necessary in order to absorb the impact of a pickleball being hit at high velocity while protecting the receiver from injury and not being damaged from the impact. In addition, polarized lenses with their glare blocking feature actually are not a good fit for pickleball or tennis as the lenses tend to inhibit depth perception. We are currently designing some proper pickleball frames along with the appropriate lens sets and will send you and Will some production pickleball protective eyewear when they are ready. Thanks again for your terrific videos!
Was not wearing eye protection up until a couple of months ago. Started wearing it just in case. Glad I did, popped in the glasses a couple days ago to the point where the frames cut my nose. Will be wearing something going forward!
Will = schilling at 18:00 Love Tifosi eyewear, they have some interchangeable lenses in a few different frames and lots of lens color options I also have a Melin problem
I have worn protective eyewear since getting hit in the eye a year ago. My glasses of choice are the Gearbox RB. Fyi, I was hit again this past weekend by a net cord shot and the only damage was a small scratch to the lens.
i have tried 3 different eye protection glasses so far...the Onix was good for protection and sight but the pressure on my head behind my ears was too much to bear...I then got the CRBN Pivot with bottom piece removed and so far they feel good, they are transition lenses and don't put my head in a vice...I have a pair of Oakleys coming soon that I got a good deal on, the Flak 2.0XL clear lens...after getting hit in the eye 2x over the past 3 months, it was time for protection
Speaking of protective eyewear...we include a pair of Jorestech glasses with every paddle purchase. These glasses are ANSI Z87+ Certified and also provide UV (UVA and UVB radiation) protection. They also block blue light. Removing blue light improves sharpness, enhances contrast, improves depth perception and even reduces eye fatigue.
Oakley Prizm Golf or Dark Golf lenses (have a rose base color tint) that are NOT polarized... seems to be the consensus for object related tracking sports in both bright and low light conditions. Get the style you like, I went with Sutro Lites in Prizm Golf lenses for my 50 year old eyes. Tried several lenses and glasses... and settled on these FTW! Not to mention that I have no worries now when wearing them at the kitchen line against the Fearbox Power. LFG!!!
I use the Gearbox sunglasses with smoke colored lens for outdoor and clear lens for indoor. I like that they have a slim fit version for people with smaller faces. For $40, I think they are a great option. Would you add them to the group of glasses you will try as a comparison as I would be curious of what you think compared to the more expensive brands. Goodnight, Chris!!😂
I’m not a Selkirk guy for the same reason, but the only thing that makes me love it is the swing weight option, I’ve always wanted a good sweet spot, elongated 16 with good pop. The one I’m demoing has better pop, similar power (because I’m swinging faster), and way faster hands, and better control than my flash14, and I’m a Vatic rep
Rudy Project / Rydon Sport Performance eyewear. Options include clear to black, perscription, anti-glare, interchangable lens. Mine do not fog .. even in Florida.
Just bought a pair of prescription RIA Forte sunglasses. Wasn't my first style pick but it's the only model they have that works with a progressive lens. If I used a single correction lens they have several styles to pick from. The glasses are tested/certified to meet Z87.1 impact resistance. In the case of the Forte, they can take an 80mph impact from a pickleball flush on the front of the lens and not break or have any part of the lens/frame impact the eye. Needed sunglasses anyway and figured I should just go ahead and get something that's going to provide some protection. Hope I made a good choice since with the prescription lenses it's not cheap.
I would love to see some of the lower priced eyewear like the Gearbox vision, Onix Owl, and maybe some racquetball glasses compared with some of the expensive brands like Ria and Oakley. As always, I love the channel and content!
Rudy Project glasses are a great option too. Haven't seen them mentioned yet. The Impact X Photochromic Lenses work great when it's bright and when it gets darker and the lights come on. Have several pair I wear for USPSA pistol shooting and mountain biking. Mostly been wearing the Propulse model from Rudy with photochromic lenses...they have pretty good venting so no issues with fogging up. You should try those out as well Chris!
Not sure if you wear contact lenses, but could you cover prescription protective eyewear? Depending on high your prescription is, you cannot necessarily order rimless glasses or glasses without the bottom frame. Some prescription glasses only allow a prescription up to -4.0. I unfortunately have a much stronger prescription, so my choices are limited. I would be interested in protective eyewear/goggles that go over glasses too given my prescription is so strong. I also would benefit from bifocals or progressive lenses. A lot of middle aged and seniors need this feature. Do safety glasses work just as well? I have a pair from Walmart that were like under $5. I tried them last night with contacts on. A bit blurry on the periphery, but seemed to work. Not very attractive though. Thanks! I'm starting to shop.
Loving the discussion & plans to cover PE! Yesss 👀🎉💪 Cant wait! Please address anti-fog options (wipes, sprays, brands) & what works best! 🙌 Thats why most players (like me) end up removing our PE after the first game...
Eyewear will be as common as a biking helmet in the near future. It is not IF but WHEN a top pro gets hit with serious consequences that the general population will wake up. I always wear sunglasses outside and use to not wear anything indoor. Then I got wacked hard in the eye outdoors and thank god I had sunglasses on. It would have been a trip to ER for sure. I went out and got some eyewear for indoor playing.
Rudy Project are what I use. Sport / Rydon / White frame Perscription, Clear to Black, anti-glare, impact resistent, interchangable lenses. Clear to Black lens adjust to lighting conditions so I use these for indoor as well. They do not fog (for me anyway). The have 23 frame options and a slim model (fit my wife perfectly). I use my Rydons for PB, biking, golf, hunting and driving. Even at the indoor gun range. Perfect. BUT, perscription on a curved, hi tech lens with clear to black is expensive. These lens absolutely adjust to all lighting conditions. Lens available in black and clear only, of course. Worth it for me. I do not step on the PB court without eye protection.
A HUD for Pickleball practice would be awesome. The net plane could light up in different colors for different percentages. And the court could light up in different colors on where to hit.
I have both the Halo Control and the Luxx. I should’ve returned the Luxx, as I didn't like it. I bought the Vanguard Control as I considered it an improvement over the Halo (better performance), and I like the more durable face and lifetime warranty of the Vanguard. I am a paddle nerd and also own a 6.0 DBD and Engage Pro 6.0 Ex. I liked the Halo better over the competitors paddles, and went back to it. So, for me the Vanguard Control was a desired upgrade. And I was able to pick the lightweight (received 7.3 oz) option and the Vanguard swing weight of 110 are awesome. Adding weighted tungsten tape to a light paddle is the way to go for me. Can’t lighten up a heavy paddle. And the spin is good and better than my Halo.
I've tried countless paddles to date. Many were very underwhelming while a few were pretty good. However, I haven't found a paddle that perfectly suited my game. TBH I wasn't sure what was missing until watching this in depth paddle guide. So thank you for providing such thorough descriptions of paddle attributes and materials! Could you please post which make and model utilize the amazing C4 Explosion Core technology? That's definately what I've been searching for this entire time! 😂
I always wear safety glasses now. Gearbox. They are good. But they fog up (even with anti fog spray in Florida) and could have better clarity. So, I’m thinking of upgrading to Oakleys.
So many paddles. Static Weight is a good way to eliminate some. Hybrid shape knocked those out too. Skinny handle, no txs. I got the Cliff paddle, its good, light, long, square, nice handle, price is right.
My first non-Amazon paddle was a Selkirk Evo Soft I purchased a year ago. 2 months later the handle broke. Submitted warranty claim and promptly received a replacement SLK Evo Soft 2.0. Opened the package and the butt of the handle was already coming off. Submitted and 2nd claim and upgraded to a Halo for $60 more. Selkirk also gave me a $25 gift code for the trouble, which I promptly used to buy a Halo for my wife. So Selkirk warranty and customer service are excellent. QC and durability 🤔
I keep trying to wear eye protection, and know I should, but always take them off within the first game because they get sweaty and blurred, Tried several brands, and like the CRBN, hope I can get used to them at some point. Looking forward to the PPA on Sunday, my first time going to watch the pros.
Hey Pickleball Will I am also from OK as well. I noticed that you're wearing a Ballr hat. I was wondering if you had the chance to play with Ballr Heat
Have you tried or do you like Tifosi eyewear? They seem like they have some good safety glasses and are pretty stylish too. Also, do you feel or have you looked into how lens color can affect ball visibility? I’ve heard red lenses can help increase the visibility of the optic yellow ball. I think ALW has referenced this as well. Thanks Chris!
Protective eyewear is becoming MUCH more prevalent at my local courts. I think it's a good idea as the ball is traveling faster now and many people are speeding up lower balls at the kitchen that often results in a head high trajectory. Fortunately nobody has been seriously injured yet, but it is eventually a likely scenario. The Oakley Flak Jacket XLJ's and Radarlock Path were my go to glasses for almost a decade for any outdoor activity. I always preferred the amber based lenses; Tungsten and Gold Iridium. However, once they released the Prism lineup the Road lens ultimately became my preferred, I believe all the Prism are a rose base color. Since I can no longer wear contacts I've had to resort to Rx sunglasses and my current amber polarized are not the best in my experience. The tint and light transmission are good, but I feel the polarization aspect for me just does not work as I tend to misjudge ball trajectory (depth perception) a lot more versus clears or just tinted lenses. YMMV
I really like your emphasis on PPE. I would love to know if you’ve come across eyewear brands that make styles for a low nose bridge (“Asian fit”). Also polarized lenses for outdoor wear.
Could prescription eyewear be a separate category? I've never been a fan of transition glasses /sunglasses, but I could see that working better for pickleball if that's an option.
Here are my thoughts on "grit" durability with all of the various raw carbon/kevlar/fiberglass paddles. The actual hitting surface is actually the epoxy that has texture molded in from the peel ply before the epoxy cures. So what is wearing out is that top layer of epoxy. It almost doesn't matter if the paddle has carbon fiber, fiberglass, or epoxy. It comes down to the durability of the epoxy used because that is the thing that is smoothing out with use. Better grades of epoxy might have slightly more durability before the surfaces eventually begins to smooth out. I still wonder what happens as the wear occurs to the point where you get more exposed kevlar in paddles that have that hitting surface. Would that surface be any more grabby? Carbon fiber can be sanded and will sand smoothly. But kevlar is difficult to sand and can literally ball up and have a fuzzy surface instead of getting sanded smooth.
The top pros skip the Minnesota event every year because of the weather and inconvenience, not the surface. A lot of people seem to feel like the Vulcan actually bounces more than other balls, but we’ll see. It’s too bad it struggles staying in round because otherwise it’s a clear upgrade on the dura.
On Kevlar, they probably meant it is more elastic/resilient referring to impact. Just by the attributes of the material. Carbon fiber is very strong and stiff but is more brittle. In some TH-camrs vid they put a worn carbon fiber face under a microscope and found broken fibers. So they might not have meant texture durability. I could be wrong. 🤷♂️ it would be interesting to see a carbon fiber vs Kevlar wear test.
Like a frame with bars just big enough to prevent a ball from getting to the eye - maybe an extension of the bones around the eye. Just throwing ideas out there...
Ria is pronounced [‘rai-ya] not [ree-uh] just fyi. I love this eyewear. I have a pair of the reflex with all the lens options. A bit pricey but not more than losing an eye.
If they made glasses that were simple and better looking people would be more inclined to wear them. I just want to wear something that protects my eyes and doesn’t mess with my depth perception. Amazon has been my best friend bought some and just popped the lenses out and I’m good
I'm now curious. When I see pickleball paddle spreadsheets where RPM's and Top speeds are listed they all vary from reviewer to reviewer. And when the reviewers are saying top speed averages like 60-70 MPH, when pros like Ben Johns can hit 85MPH plus. It seems like the review stats are really unreliable. Especially when looking to buy the top speed or top rpm paddle. Weights of paddles, swing weights, grit, etc. all have tools that can be used. Someone, maybe Pickleball Studio needs to get some engineering students to build them a top speed and rpm machine as a college project. It can be adjusted to equal a player who can swing at X speed = output. Obviously a machine can do better than a human. But you could get some of the pro's to hit a paddle a few hundred times. Get their max numbers and adjust the machine until it matches the top players speed and rpm with the same paddle. It would provide a more accurate numbers.
Why do people keep saying heavier paddles are more likely to cause tennis elbow? If you hit a pickleball with a baseball bat, the ball will have almost no effect on the bat. No jarring. No twisting. None of that. So why would a paddle with a heavier head cause more tennis elbow (more jarring, etc.), than one with a lighter head? Makes no sense to me. Any proof? I seem to remember reading that a study found it to be the way I would expect (heavier paddle actually better for tennis elbow).
Good pod again guys! Chris, do you think having regular prescription glass is better safety glass? (I always wear Transitions regular glass for outdoor and indoor, but could definitely upgrade to some Oakley's, which has a rounded frame.
So, as a bicycling geek for 25+ years, there's many brands that cover the full eye bone structure with options for 3 or 4 different colored lenses ... road cyclists experience a lot of debris headed everywhere, and I suggest looking at their options ... side note: for cheaper option, in non sun lit situations, regular safety clear or orange (best for twilight or shady situations) work just fine ... just offering an option from 25 years of experience ... summer sunlight is always best finding your preference in lens color ... best for evening shadows is purple lenses
Need an updated paddle company tier list asap!
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Chris, you talk about how many cheaper paddles perform around the same as the Perseus.
I think a video comparing cheaper paddles to more expensive (big name) paddles, such as the perseus would do really well.
Aw, you did us wrong Chris. 🤣 You’ve got to compare the look of our sun lens to the other sun lenses. Clear lenses from any company never look as good as a sun lens. Appreciate the shout! New models coming soon. 🕶️
Ria eyewear for the win!!!! I’ve had mine since October 2023. No issues with fogging up doesn’t even feel like they are on at all. Bit pricey but worth it if it means I get to play pickleball and play without any hesitation. I played against someone with the new gear box paddle and the ball flys off that paddle. One hit to the eye with that ball and it’s game over for your vision. Model name is called Reflex Clear HD if anyone is wondering.
Big fan of you and Will! I happen to have been in the eyewear business both designing and bringing eyewear to market for over 25 years. There are certain materials in frames and lenses that are necessary in order to absorb the impact of a pickleball being hit at high velocity while protecting the receiver from injury and not being damaged from the impact. In addition, polarized lenses with their glare blocking feature actually are not a good fit for pickleball or tennis as the lenses tend to inhibit depth perception. We are currently designing some proper pickleball frames along with the appropriate lens sets and will send you and Will some production pickleball protective eyewear when they are ready. Thanks again for your terrific videos!
I hope you have some Asian fit/low nose bridge fit models in the works!
@@foggybottomz Sorry, we decided not to enter the pickleball realm. I just want to play!😄
Was not wearing eye protection up until a couple of months ago. Started wearing it just in case.
Glad I did, popped in the glasses a couple days ago to the point where the frames cut my nose.
Will be wearing something going forward!
Great podcast, variety of content sets it apart. Well done!
Will = schilling at 18:00
Love Tifosi eyewear, they have some interchangeable lenses in a few different frames and lots of lens color options
I also have a Melin problem
Thanks for the mention you guys! Always appreciated. Keep crushing!
I have worn protective eyewear since getting hit in the eye a year ago. My glasses of choice are the Gearbox RB. Fyi, I was hit again this past weekend by a net cord shot and the only damage was a small scratch to the lens.
I look forward to the pod every week!
him not hearing the 3.5 joke was so funny lmao
I use Bolle Safety glasses. It has ansi Z87.1 impact rating
i have tried 3 different eye protection glasses so far...the Onix was good for protection and sight but the pressure on my head behind my ears was too much to bear...I then got the CRBN Pivot with bottom piece removed and so far they feel good, they are transition lenses and don't put my head in a vice...I have a pair of Oakleys coming soon that I got a good deal on, the Flak 2.0XL clear lens...after getting hit in the eye 2x over the past 3 months, it was time for protection
Speaking of protective eyewear...we include a pair of Jorestech glasses with every paddle purchase.
These glasses are ANSI Z87+ Certified and also provide UV (UVA and UVB radiation) protection.
They also block blue light. Removing blue light improves sharpness, enhances contrast, improves depth perception and even reduces eye fatigue.
Oakley Prizm Golf or Dark Golf lenses (have a rose base color tint) that are NOT polarized... seems to be the consensus for object related tracking sports in both bright and low light conditions. Get the style you like, I went with Sutro Lites in Prizm Golf lenses for my 50 year old eyes. Tried several lenses and glasses... and settled on these FTW! Not to mention that I have no worries now when wearing them at the kitchen line against the Fearbox Power. LFG!!!
I use the Gearbox sunglasses with smoke colored lens for outdoor and clear lens for indoor. I like that they have a slim fit version for people with smaller faces. For $40, I think they are a great option. Would you add them to the group of glasses you will try as a comparison as I would be curious of what you think compared to the more expensive brands. Goodnight, Chris!!😂
I’m not a Selkirk guy for the same reason, but the only thing that makes me love it is the swing weight option, I’ve always wanted a good sweet spot, elongated 16 with good pop. The one I’m demoing has better pop, similar power (because I’m swinging faster), and way faster hands, and better control than my flash14, and I’m a Vatic rep
this the vanguard control ?
Rudy Project / Rydon Sport Performance eyewear. Options include clear to black, perscription, anti-glare, interchangable lens. Mine do not fog .. even in Florida.
Just bought a pair of prescription RIA Forte sunglasses. Wasn't my first style pick but it's the only model they have that works with a progressive lens. If I used a single correction lens they have several styles to pick from. The glasses are tested/certified to meet Z87.1 impact resistance. In the case of the Forte, they can take an 80mph impact from a pickleball flush on the front of the lens and not break or have any part of the lens/frame impact the eye. Needed sunglasses anyway and figured I should just go ahead and get something that's going to provide some protection. Hope I made a good choice since with the prescription lenses it's not cheap.
Thanks for the great pod as always! One of the best parts of my week guys!
I would love to see some of the lower priced eyewear like the Gearbox vision, Onix Owl, and maybe some racquetball glasses compared with some of the expensive brands like Ria and Oakley. As always, I love the channel and content!
Rudy Project glasses are a great option too. Haven't seen them mentioned yet. The Impact X Photochromic Lenses work great when it's bright and when it gets darker and the lights come on. Have several pair I wear for USPSA pistol shooting and mountain biking. Mostly been wearing the Propulse model from Rudy with photochromic lenses...they have pretty good venting so no issues with fogging up. You should try those out as well Chris!
Agree. My Rudy Project Rydon sport clear to black with perscription model is fantastic.
Not sure if you wear contact lenses, but could you cover prescription protective eyewear? Depending on high your prescription is, you cannot necessarily order rimless glasses or glasses without the bottom frame. Some prescription glasses only allow a prescription up to -4.0. I unfortunately have a much stronger prescription, so my choices are limited. I would be interested in protective eyewear/goggles that go over glasses too given my prescription is so strong. I also would benefit from bifocals or progressive lenses. A lot of middle aged and seniors need this feature.
Do safety glasses work just as well? I have a pair from Walmart that were like under $5. I tried them last night with contacts on. A bit blurry on the periphery, but seemed to work. Not very attractive though.
Thanks! I'm starting to shop.
Much better take on protective eyewear compared to the Picklehead Podcast. And...just a great podcast in general. My favorite...
any thoughts on the new Yonex Vcore plus paddle? Thanks!
Loving the discussion & plans to cover PE! Yesss 👀🎉💪 Cant wait!
Please address anti-fog options (wipes, sprays, brands) & what works best! 🙌 Thats why most players (like me) end up removing our PE after the first game...
Eyewear will be as common as a biking helmet in the near future. It is not IF but WHEN a top pro gets hit with serious consequences that the general population will wake up. I always wear sunglasses outside and use to not wear anything indoor. Then I got wacked hard in the eye outdoors and thank god I had sunglasses on. It would have been a trip to ER for sure. I went out and got some eyewear for indoor playing.
I have returned 3 paddles back to Selkirk under warranty. 2 out of 3 relpaced.
We’ve been wearing eye guards for racquetball for 30 plus years. Many come with tinted lens.some brands Head, Python,
Could you put the safety glasses on a dummy and have the ball machine fire the ball directly at the glasses to check durability?
I wear Oakley sunglasses, so I am going to get clear lenses so I can play with them indoors or at night.
The main question concerning eyewear is which one allows you to get your prescription added to them?
Rudy Project are what I use. Sport / Rydon / White frame Perscription, Clear to Black, anti-glare, impact resistent, interchangable lenses. Clear to Black lens adjust to lighting conditions so I use these for indoor as well. They do not fog (for me anyway). The have 23 frame options and a slim model (fit my wife perfectly). I use my Rydons for PB, biking, golf, hunting and driving. Even at the indoor gun range. Perfect. BUT, perscription on a curved, hi tech lens with clear to black is expensive. These lens absolutely adjust to all lighting conditions. Lens available in black and clear only, of course. Worth it for me. I do not step on the PB court without eye protection.
A HUD for Pickleball practice would be awesome. The net plane could light up in different colors for different percentages. And the court could light up in different colors on where to hit.
I have both the Halo Control and the Luxx. I should’ve returned the Luxx, as I didn't like it. I bought the Vanguard Control as I considered it an improvement over the Halo (better performance), and I like the more durable face and lifetime warranty of the Vanguard. I am a paddle nerd and also own a 6.0 DBD and Engage Pro 6.0 Ex. I liked the Halo better over the competitors paddles, and went back to it. So, for me the Vanguard Control was a desired upgrade. And I was able to pick the lightweight (received 7.3 oz) option and the Vanguard swing weight of 110 are awesome. Adding weighted tungsten tape to a light paddle is the way to go for me. Can’t lighten up a heavy paddle. And the spin is good and better than my Halo.
I've tried countless paddles to date. Many were very underwhelming while a few were pretty good. However, I haven't found a paddle that perfectly suited my game.
TBH I wasn't sure what was missing until watching this in depth paddle guide. So thank you for providing such thorough descriptions of paddle attributes and materials!
Could you please post which make and model utilize the amazing C4 Explosion Core technology? That's definately what I've been searching for this entire time! 😂
This is hilarious because I am from OKC. Former college tennis player who just found Pickleball. Did not think I would be hearing OKC on here.
I always wear safety glasses now. Gearbox. They are good. But they fog up (even with anti fog spray in Florida) and could have better clarity. So, I’m thinking of upgrading to Oakleys.
Also take a look at Rudy Project / Rydon Sport models. Mine (and my wife) do not fog, at all.
Do you know the swing weight on the vanguard control lightweight invicta? I saw the midweight at 114. Thanks
I saw 107 from a friend
@@PickleballStudiothanks for the response.
So many paddles. Static Weight is a good way to eliminate some. Hybrid shape knocked those out too. Skinny handle, no txs. I got the Cliff paddle, its good, light, long, square, nice handle, price is right.
My first non-Amazon paddle was a Selkirk Evo Soft I purchased a year ago. 2 months later the handle broke. Submitted warranty claim and promptly received a replacement SLK Evo Soft 2.0. Opened the package and the butt of the handle was already coming off. Submitted and 2nd claim and upgraded to a Halo for $60 more. Selkirk also gave me a $25 gift code for the trouble, which I promptly used to buy a Halo for my wife. So Selkirk warranty and customer service are excellent. QC and durability 🤔
been liking these random nocry's on amazon.
I keep trying to wear eye protection, and know I should, but always take them off within the first game because they get sweaty and blurred, Tried several brands, and like the CRBN, hope I can get used to them at some point. Looking forward to the PPA on Sunday, my first time going to watch the pros.
Volair Mach 2 Forza review 🙏🏽
Hey Pickleball Will I am also from OK as well. I noticed that you're wearing a Ballr hat. I was wondering if you had the chance to play with Ballr Heat
You mention the ktchn bag and “your bag” that your working on. What bag are you working on?
Will did a bag collab with ADV. it was a Kickstarter.
Are regular sun glasses good enough for eye protection? What features can I look for to prevent fogging.
Have you tried or do you like Tifosi eyewear? They seem like they have some good safety glasses and are pretty stylish too. Also, do you feel or have you looked into how lens color can affect ball visibility? I’ve heard red lenses can help increase the visibility of the optic yellow ball. I think ALW has referenced this as well. Thanks Chris!
What's the difference between just wearing sunglasses vs "protective" eyewear? (i.e. Ria Forte that look like RayBans).
At around 19:00 I think Will confused the Luxx with the Vanguard Control
Protective eyewear is becoming MUCH more prevalent at my local courts. I think it's a good idea as the ball is traveling faster now and many people are speeding up lower balls at the kitchen that often results in a head high trajectory. Fortunately nobody has been seriously injured yet, but it is eventually a likely scenario.
The Oakley Flak Jacket XLJ's and Radarlock Path were my go to glasses for almost a decade for any outdoor activity. I always preferred the amber based lenses; Tungsten and Gold Iridium. However, once they released the Prism lineup the Road lens ultimately became my preferred, I believe all the Prism are a rose base color. Since I can no longer wear contacts I've had to resort to Rx sunglasses and my current amber polarized are not the best in my experience. The tint and light transmission are good, but I feel the polarization aspect for me just does not work as I tend to misjudge ball trajectory (depth perception) a lot more versus clears or just tinted lenses. YMMV
Would you please indicate which eye wear company makes protective prescription eyewear
Thanks, great show guys.
I believe Oakley and Ria Eyewear both do.
Can you go over what eyewear is best for playing in the sub
I used the Selkirk warranty on the Amped series like 4 or 5 times and they Vanguard Power they act like they never made once.
Wen "Willinator"?
The video quality now is tops! Great job!
@Will - Yo - How does your Ballr hat compare to the Melin? It's def much cheaper! :)
Is the new Gamma Control paddle as good as the Selkirk Luxx??
Been waiting for this answer
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 please
@pickleballstudio do you have a code for RIA?
I really like your emphasis on PPE. I would love to know if you’ve come across eyewear brands that make styles for a low nose bridge (“Asian fit”). Also polarized lenses for outdoor wear.
57:35 what a very wholesome moment for Chris
Could prescription eyewear be a separate category?
I've never been a fan of transition glasses /sunglasses, but I could see that working better for pickleball if that's an option.
Here are my thoughts on "grit" durability with all of the various raw carbon/kevlar/fiberglass paddles. The actual hitting surface is actually the epoxy that has texture molded in from the peel ply before the epoxy cures. So what is wearing out is that top layer of epoxy. It almost doesn't matter if the paddle has carbon fiber, fiberglass, or epoxy. It comes down to the durability of the epoxy used because that is the thing that is smoothing out with use. Better grades of epoxy might have slightly more durability before the surfaces eventually begins to smooth out.
I still wonder what happens as the wear occurs to the point where you get more exposed kevlar in paddles that have that hitting surface. Would that surface be any more grabby? Carbon fiber can be sanded and will sand smoothly. But kevlar is difficult to sand and can literally ball up and have a fuzzy surface instead of getting sanded smooth.
The sneak diss at 57:37 was too good. 3.5 hearing
Hahaha the face time lag prevented me from hearing it while talking. That’s hilarious. 😂
Keep in mind the ASTM 803F standards for racket sports eyewear.
The top pros skip the Minnesota event every year because of the weather and inconvenience, not the surface. A lot of people seem to feel like the Vulcan actually bounces more than other balls, but we’ll see. It’s too bad it struggles staying in round because otherwise it’s a clear upgrade on the dura.
what paddles would you say for the money would be as close to the vanguard control then?
I love my rias! I have been wearing since my friend took a ricochet to her eye , messed her cornea up! She still has issues
Dewalt safety glasses at Lowe’s. UV and polarized
You don’t want polarized. It messes with depth perception.
Hey Will, While in San Antonio, check out Fairchild Park. 18 free courts.
What is a good beginners paddle?
So which Melin is y’all’s favorites?
Also will struggled to say nice things about Selkirk cause he knows….
I like the A-Game shape.
I need clear, anti fog glasses for indoor. What are the best anti fog?
Antifog wipes are best investment
Wipe on shaving cream then wipe off that thin layer gives you fog protection
Whats the word on Pro Kennex Pro Speed II
On Kevlar, they probably meant it is more elastic/resilient referring to impact. Just by the attributes of the material. Carbon fiber is very strong and stiff but is more brittle. In some TH-camrs vid they put a worn carbon fiber face under a microscope and found broken fibers. So they might not have meant texture durability. I could be wrong. 🤷♂️ it would be interesting to see a carbon fiber vs Kevlar wear test.
Chris taking balls to the face within the first minute of the podcast is crazy
You mean…Ball MAGNET 😅
this is so comical, watching Will‘s face when Chris bashes Selkirk
Love those BALLR hats!
Just got my prescription safety goggles on Monday. I have been hit in the face 3x in the last 2 months. Only bled 1 out of the 3.
When do you think you will be doing an eyewear show? There is a lot of info out there but most people trust you more than marketing press.
Is there a good no lens eye protection?
Like a frame with bars just big enough to prevent a ball from getting to the eye - maybe an extension of the bones around the eye. Just throwing ideas out there...
Anything that is just a frame with no lens to fog or scratch, that doesn't obstruct your vision either.@@PKB-AG
My bag handle just ripped last week and I sent it back for a replacement
I wear sunglasses all summer. I wear some knockarounds with clear lenses indoors for winter, but in some venues they fog up like crazy. :(
Ria is pronounced [‘rai-ya] not [ree-uh] just fyi. I love this eyewear. I have a pair of the reflex with all the lens options. A bit pricey but not more than losing an eye.
I’ve probably used Selkirk’s warranty 4 times and have told 2-3 others how to use it.
If you could show the parts of the paddle when talking about them I think it would be pretty cool for people who don’t know.
I was hit in the eye when the ball ricocheted off the tape and luckily I am a glasses wearer
If they made glasses that were simple and better looking people would be more inclined to wear them. I just want to wear something that protects my eyes and doesn’t mess with my depth perception. Amazon has been my best friend bought some and just popped the lenses out and I’m good
22:00 just to piggyback off Will's point. But should a beginner like that pay $200 over other brands that deliver better performance
I'm now curious. When I see pickleball paddle spreadsheets where RPM's and Top speeds are listed they all vary from reviewer to reviewer. And when the reviewers are saying top speed averages like 60-70 MPH, when pros like Ben Johns can hit 85MPH plus. It seems like the review stats are really unreliable. Especially when looking to buy the top speed or top rpm paddle. Weights of paddles, swing weights, grit, etc. all have tools that can be used. Someone, maybe Pickleball Studio needs to get some engineering students to build them a top speed and rpm machine as a college project. It can be adjusted to equal a player who can swing at X speed = output. Obviously a machine can do better than a human. But you could get some of the pro's to hit a paddle a few hundred times. Get their max numbers and adjust the machine until it matches the top players speed and rpm with the same paddle. It would provide a more accurate numbers.
Can you please list names from top to bottom thanks
"Women Repellent" Laughed my head off. Thanks!
Try the GearBox Glasses
I’ve been using the GearBox yellow and blue lenses for different indoor lighting situations, try them
Yup, do the eyewear thing...
Vanguard Control is 2024's version of the Franklin STK...
The Eyewear needs to be Z87+ rated. If not, then they're just overly expensive non-prescription glasses.
Most of the hits I’ve taken to the face are deflections of my or my partner’s paddle. Did take one to the throat off a feeble Ernie attempt. 🤦🏻♂️
Why do people keep saying heavier paddles are more likely to cause tennis elbow? If you hit a pickleball with a baseball bat, the ball will have almost no effect on the bat. No jarring. No twisting. None of that. So why would a paddle with a heavier head cause more tennis elbow (more jarring, etc.), than one with a lighter head? Makes no sense to me. Any proof? I seem to remember reading that a study found it to be the way I would expect (heavier paddle actually better for tennis elbow).
Good pod again guys! Chris, do you think having regular prescription glass is better safety glass? (I always wear Transitions regular glass for outdoor and indoor, but could definitely upgrade to some Oakley's, which has a rounded frame.
So, as a bicycling geek for 25+ years, there's many brands that cover the full eye bone structure with options for 3 or 4 different colored lenses ... road cyclists experience a lot of debris headed everywhere, and I suggest looking at their options ... side note: for cheaper option, in non sun lit situations, regular safety clear or orange (best for twilight or shady situations) work just fine ... just offering an option from 25 years of experience ... summer sunlight is always best finding your preference in lens color ... best for evening shadows is purple lenses