While I was lvl 55 I found a mage bot in azshara farming nagas at the beach. I hate bots so I used him as my personal farming bot. He was opening on mobs with frostbolt so I was using Arcane Shot rank 1 to tag the mobs right before his spell was landing, so he keeps the aggro and thinks that he tagged the mob. While he was killing that mob, I was killing another one. Double the XP. Did that for hours, helped with grinding fatigue.
You can only do that with simple bots, but the ones I've been seeing on BFA seem to have an auto logout/alt+f4 mechanic or something so they disappear right away and im guessing because classic runs on 7.3 they can have similar ones too
Does he not repeay himself multiple times in multiple diff ways EVERY video? There's no bullying happening here man. Only truths being spoken and butthurt fanboys crying i suppose
vaulty following low iq players - and no, if you're a newb you don't have any big excuses to play poorly..yeah you're a new player but there are tons of guides and information for one to soak...like in the internet people got such a big ego but in the normal life they've got to listen to some teacher or boss its legit..and now the argument about yeah i want a place where theres nobody around to teach me bla bla bla - yeah fine then suck at it and like it, but don't think that by not changing your habits you will accomplish any goal in life
Had someone think I was a bot once, while I was doing a "critter crawl". It got kind of like I got into a pattern while playing. I like doing things like fishing, herbalism, and doing silly low grade stuff like grinding critters. I did chat with this one person that came down and kind of watched me. It was pretty funny, and I wouldn't know how to bot on a bet.
I was doing some farming and got a whisper saying I was going to get reported for being a bot, my response "I'm not a bot but your Mum says I'm like a machine" :)
@@ristonalaimo5048 Yeah I have no issue with bots, especially since they're mostly in secluded areas no one goes to anyway. So, at least someone is making use of unused areas. If they were killing mobs in areas people needed for quests then they'd become a nuisance.
the funny thing is they do care they its not like its gonna be gone over night they just gotta get a new anti bot system, they do ban alot of gold buyers and botters now days so just be patient
I've reported a bot for 1 week straight in the badlands while mob grinding. Absolutely nothing has been done yet and the bot is still there. I even messaged the bot and said "your bot is poorly scripted" I then got a reply "Do you have better one?" The player then said the leveling experience is boring and bots until 60. I've lost a lot of faith in the reporting system because of this.
I lvld up twics from 1 to 60 and i cant use a bot to lvl up the rest of my characters becaus3ñe this pisses of to the kids that they think this should be banned eventhough there is no policy for bliZ agains bots?? Grow up guys... Sometimes is necessary.
this is actually TRUE The player then said the leveling experience is boring and bots until 60 xD you cant blame him for boting till 60 cause maybe he wants to only play raids or somethin
Do damage to them but dont kill them, let the mobs kill them. That way their armor will break and wont be able to continue. If they try to heal, silence, stun or interrupt them.
@@dani-uf1eo Does literally nothing to them unfortunately, gold selling bots are usually a cluster of pc's running hundreds to thousands copies of WoW at the same time botting, it's not a guy behind a pc running just a couple bots
"There is this one gnome annoying me, following me around wherever i go , i didn't want to target the player so i ran, i afk'ed a bit 3 times while numb locking and i ran to three tree's that was so embarrasing i have ADD So i HAVE TO REPEAT EVERY SINGLE THING I DO PERFECTLY, i tried running to a far away zone to shake this gnome off , but he just won't get away from me"
@@jeremycastleberry never heard of someone with attention deficit being able to hyper focus. As an adult with ADD that shocks me. But this is patterns and repeating them. Having autism or OCD makes way more sense then using ADD as that is not common at all for adults with ADD to hyper focus... not that hyper focusing and being obsessive with patterns are the same thing anyway.
I run into these all the time. Usually 3 mages that all look alike or hunters with pets whose names consist of chinese (I'm guessing) characters. One tip off was watching one of these hunters kill something, loot it, skin it, attack a nearby mob and kill that, loot it, skin it and then run back to the first mob and loot the skin. I was on my warlock in Tanaris at the time so even though it was a blue server, I screwed with the bot by fearing their mob repeatedly. Eventually it got far enough away that their pet would either vanish or get ganked by more mobs. During my fearing, the hunter would turn and aggro another mob while the feared mob was still up and they'd melee the thing. Then I just let my fear run out letting the mob return and gank the now petless hunter. I did this several times before they insta-camped. No sitting and waiting just vanished. They were back 20 min later and I resumed my fun. I told this to my guildies and one of them suggested another thing I could do was to fill their empty inventory slots with heavy Leather balls.
that is actually not a bad idea, filling their inventory with leather balls, but for them it means nothing, for you it is just lost time, still funny tho
@@gordonlove5121 considering how lucrative the digital market is and how governments are still trying to figure out full regulation; I can tell you this indeed goes on. Especially when you consider the products being sold: pure digital entertainment property that companies can do whatever they like to add or take away anything they want to their property. Imagine having a team outside of the company (and are in countries with very loose digital sale regulation) that is given gold from the game to sell from a website that once collected, is syphoned back through the company in either digital store transfers or simply to the company as profit that is legally taxed, and this doesn't break a single law. Just wait until there is 100% regulation on all digital sales, you have no idea how much money these companies are making right now and the different ways of syphoning that money directly back in ways the IRS have no fucking clue to even access/understand.....yet
@@gordonlove5121 I know, it literally is so easy to consider and actually execute the only ridiculous part of this is the amount of money they are making ;)
There's a disgusting amount of bots in Classic now. They're literally everywhere and they all run the same script that just goes from mob to mob grinding. I think there's so many that they outnumber real players which is why it's so hard to find groups nowadays. Meanwhile I can't even extend the terrain or nameplate view distance because Blizzard says no yet the bots can do whatever they want...
What about youtubers who make their videos just over 10 min long to get that extra ad revenue while wasting everyone else's time? Should that be banned?
I am beginning to believe that Classic has no game master support, I have experienced a lot of player abuse in classic and even went as far as reporting it to blizzard and they threatened a ban because they twisted the situation as "I'm abusing the report tool by opening multiple tickets" which wasn't the case
great video bruv sometimes I feel like a classic WoW robot when I'm playing, perhaps these "bots" are just players that have gone mad. but seriously tho, hopefully there will be some sweeping bans in the future for botters and gold buyers/sellers.
I saw six dwarf hunters named xxxa, xxxb, xxxc, etc. They all had the same appearance and they were positioned in two rows of 3 place back to back, in a corner of Suramar, and just kept shooting constantly. It was so creepy. I also saw a druid in cat form which just kept doing the one same move endlessly. He was still at it 40 minutes later when I went back to the same place for another quest. Just disturbing. But not half as much as the messages in all chat channels trying to sell you dungeon runs. This is so annoying. I see more and more raiding groups that say that you have to pay to join. What the frell...
Once played through a starting zone, found a troll that just stood there... Killing boars... over, and over and over again. He didn’t even move... it was disturbing
If you're talking about the stonefield farm in elwynn, that was probably a player. Any class with ranged attacks dsbm just stand there and make each boar come to them with the first attack. Kill a bunch, loot and skin them all without moving, and you can level through the beginning stages of leather working in under an hour.
@@samsterling1462 I mean... I'm not familiar with the troll areas but the same strategy would work anywhere there's an abundance of boars in a small area. You also have to remember that I wrote that reply 2 years ago when I was just a baby player. Maybe it was silly to use Elwynn forest as an example but again, the strategy is pretty universal.
A faster way to judge if someone is botting on your own faction, is to inspect their gear. If their gear is all BoE: 1. They have not done any quests as quest rewards give BoP gear(usually) 2. They have not grouped for instances (as finding groups takes time) 3. All their gear is usually from AH or world drops. Because they only farm trash mobs, trash mobs only drop BoE, and AH only sells BoE, botter's equipment would only consist of BoE. Only once I've seen a bot with a BoP green belt(out of 15 bots from my own faction), and this is for leveling bots as I've never encountered a lvl 60 bot.
To truly make this idea solid.. Have bot farms follow each other, And a 2-5 handlers. Get the handlers learned in english really well, and then play the 'parent thats worried about their child' with repeated following/camping.
Hunter bots especially can and will resurrect their pets when out of combat. Plus, run back to corpse and restart pattern. Most alliance bots i have encountered were in duskwood next to the cemetery killing spiders. Others where in stonetalon since people avoid that zone and ofc everywhere in tanaris.
I had a farming spot in Uldum back in Cata. One time, a shaman came and started killing stuff around. So i took a short break, came back, he was still there. I was like "ok time for some competition" but then i noticed he wasn't acting like a human. I tried to talk to him, but ofc there was no answer. I reported him but it took about 2 weeks to get rid of him....after opening several tickets...
easy way to spot a bot, throw them invite, if they decline instantly, they do it at hyperspeed that no player would do, same if they accept, if they do nothing and let the timer expire, try again, no player wouldnt wisp you or reacted to you in some way to find out why are you keep inviting him
It hurts to watch classic blizzard fans still think they can ask for anything. Its been more then six years since Activision overhauled their staff and split resources from titles apart. You guys need to realize blizzard of 2010 are gone.
same, i found one on zandalar tribe, eu server, an orc warlock, farming shellfish for weeks while i was trying to get my own lvl 40 mount.. whispered him, but ofc nothing, his movement pattern was illogical aswell, trying to contest my traps and moving to the same trap i was moving to, then once they fail to capture, they simply swim on to the next trap in an equally illogical manner, because the next trap was on the ocean bottom, yet the bot swam over the underwater hill, onto the other side to another trap... So i reported him. But i havent been back since i got my mount. so i dont know if he's still there, i bet he is though.
Saw a (rogue) bot some time ago grinding the wyvern in thousand needles. Watched and killed him a few times, even running in circles with him for about 5 minutes as he did in fact react and run to me (he didn't try another path to get to me, just followed in the circle... was funny as hell). Afterwards I kited him into the feralas zone where the feral druid in the video was. Thing is... those mobs were too high level for him. Watched a while and indeed he resurrected at the same spot every time, just to get killed again by the mobs. Not only will his armor break, but he wouldn't get away until the person behind it would notice. I left with a very good feeling. :D
I remember making some complexe macros back when I used to play PW, so I could grind / farm with my legs up, drinking beer and only using my mouse whilst watching an anime on the side. Wonder if I got reported at all back then.
An interesting thing about botting, is that some games (not WoW) allows it and sometimes even encourages it, because it inflates their player count. Although, the one I'm most familiar with that allows botting is one that only lets you be semi-afk at most. If you display botting actions, they'll message you and ask you what you're doing. If you respond in a timely manner, you're in the clear. If not, then you get killed and temp-banned for afk farming.
As a previous botter (end of last year I quit), people claiming blizzard wont ban us for "income" and whatnot are entirely wrong. We had people with 30+ accounts instantly being banned. CONSTANTLY. The underground groups total population of accounts would drop by 20 to even 50%, one of them any reasons I quit because it was unsustainable how Blizzard would hound you even if you didn't do anything too bad. Even trial accounts weren't safe or some accounts that didn't even do anything would be banned. Which is quite ridicilous, getting banned for botting (though you are a botter) before even doing anything and when questioning blizzard they would instantly claim you botted and that "they can see on their machines you were botting" which is a flat out lie. Bots only moving with keyboard is false as well as they also use click to move, though it was discouraged back at Q4 of 2019 because it was assumed blizzard used that to detect botters. The bot Hasit uses an old druid fightclass (basically what your bot uses to combat with) so it's why his performance is so shit. It's incredibly annoying to make a proper fightclass unless you know what you are doing AND want to invest the time and effort into making it. But yes, all skills got a treshold of like "50% HP, start to heal" and also settings in the program to "ignore other players" because usually the bot loses to a player 99% of the time. If not just getting stuck somewhere and being left there, and nothing is more annoying than coming back to your bot and seeing it stuck somewhere for the past 3-4 hours. Now, Hasit could be using a different bot program as plenty of underground groups out there just with fewer people are running around. Because the bot shouldn't be attacking you even if you move infront of them. They should 100% ignore you and not do anything, actually they should be trying to run away from you in an opposite direction trying to exit combat. The night elf, 2nd one, is from my previous community. There is an option in the bot to make you randomly jump from time to time, nobody really uses it, also nobody really responds to whispers as it tends to cause more problems than solve(For the botters). As for the movement, it's because the pathing of the bot is shit. Like really, you should see it flying in retail. It's something the community got use to over time... Though back in the day it wouldn't stop randomly before attacking, could be some issue with new pathing used to avoid blizzard detection. Like it literally has a "beta" ray thats supposed to detect obstacles and avoid them, but it has been in beta for probably longer than illidan has been imprisoned and the bots attempts to try and get loose usually come down to going left or right. instead of god damn retracing its steps and trying to go around. Anyway to finish off, your reporting is worthless and more often than not you achieve nothing. What got botters 99% of the time was blizzards new detection methods and 1% time being reported over 10 times in a single day. Out of all my accounts lost I probably lost less than 5% of them to player reports. And killing the bots achieves nothing either really, they are coded to repair and unlike real players they wont stop even if you kill them 24 hours forever. As for why so many bots now? Last time I heard they opened up more slots for more botters (We had a cap and we reached it before that). All those old botters getting invites to this community are rushing in seeing dollar signs while the rest of us who had been in that community before that are less illusioned by "Wew so much money to be made in classic". And as this is a month old video, that's likely the case as I think in november they opened up more slots for people to join. As long as they make the money back they spent on accounts they wont quit, I didn't make my money back and actually went into the negatives after a few months so I packed up and left.
The thing is, if you make a anticheat too aggressive it might ban innocent people too. just flagging account who keyboard turn is not enough evidence or a ban.
I can patrol in WoW retail and report like 50 bots in an hour spamming abilties targetting like 30 things in a couple seconds looting and attacking at the same time interrupting the looting, and like 9-12 of them are standing ontop of each other, now normally no guild types kinda do this but i've been noticing that actual players from different guilds and diverse gear actually do it too its such a common practice that when people pass out or go to work they just turn the bot on, there is probably a good reason and comforting reason that many do it cause they know probably that blizzard doesnt have something implemented to detect botting but rather players have to report it and most people dont give a damn
Good news is blizzard can read the data of your RAM to know if you are botting, the group i took down i saw a few days later i saw someone whining about their account that they had for 15 years being banned for cheating and saying they did nothing wrong and people in trade were telling them that blizz can read the RAM, so if you see bots nuke the bitches!
When I see a bot fighting a mob, I like to fear the mob into other mobs, which will aggro & kill the bot. However, after half an hour this gets boring.
My wife spotted one in Stormwind last night. It was slow walking a continuous pattern between the bank and auction house. Had a website url for the "guild" name. Thanks to your vid, she recognized it for what it was and reported it.
@vaulty This is not necessarily a bot. In a comment I just posted, I mentioned a program called Glider I used to use in classic and BC. It's a program to help you level when you just want to get past the really boring levels.
I used to spend much of my time in Wow grinding out of the way areas like this for gold, reputation, and random rare drops. Often someone would come up to my character and start jumping around. Then they'd message me. All of which I ignored because I was busy working. Then they'd message that I was a bot and they were going to report me. Personally I found those nosy, needy players far more annoying than any amount of bots.
It's hard to detect fully external bots like pixel bots. The only way really is if the botting site is big then they can make code against their program to detect it and ban all who uses it.
I often see bots in modern WoW... And even in highly populated areas. I guess that that highly populated areas actually mask the bots, cause nobody cares to examine what other players do when they are doing their daily World Quests. Me neither. But sometimes it's very striking and even absurd. At least three times I saw some kind of multibot. It was like 6 to 9 characters of the exact same race, class, spec and even appearance and gear, running around in perfect unison. So perfect that they were abusing the no collision WoW engine and were walking inside each other. But so many players in one place, it was impossible not to notice different animations when they stopped or started walking. This kind of bot was very fast, didn't stop much, so observing it and following it was rather hard.
Great vid...just an FYI, I’ve reported the same two players for obviously using a bot program and the second time I reported the same 2 players said since you don’t care, I’m going to use one also...still no GM response. I honestly believe Bliz cares more about their Chinese farmers than them breaking rules anymore...on a side note, since they obviously don’t care about using bot programs, do you think it’s safe for me to buy some gold...🤔😂😂😂. STAND WITH HONG KONG!
Interesting video. The bot spam invites is one problem with classic that I actually have encountered. Started getting it about a week ago, just lots of spam invites to channels. You can turn channel invites off in settings. I recommend doing so, i assume that these gold selling companies are also the ones who steal wow accounts? Maybe not since they want repeat customers but its a sketchy service and most of it is done from China from what I understand.
Found 5 have bots farming in Redridge before BGs, got tons of honor on my twink to get him almost rank 3. Same thing they never tried attacking me at all. Instantly drink and eat when revived, only focused mobs, ignored me or any other people with me.
Watch for the ones that have their pets with Chinese characters as a name. As I was told elsewhere, they are identical and ironically basically say in Chinese 'I am not A Bot'. There are websites (accepting only cryptocurrencies) that sell these bots to folks.
Man i love bots more gold means lower gold prices at vendors, which means I'm getting richer and the poorer well u guessed it. I FUCKING love bots and I'm happy they are taking over this game.
Had one bot farming in the spider valley in stonetalon mountain when I was there farming spider silk. Mobs respawn instantly and the bot had very similar patterns showcased here and always with the same pathing. It was programmed to run the set path to target untapped mobs and if it found a target and it was tapped in front of it, it stopped for 2 seconds and continued on the path. But there was a small window where you could tag the mob to yourself and the bot would still perform it's programmed attack rotation, killing the mob for you. I got other player to also report the bot, but unfortunately they were still left off the hook for like 2-3 weeks at least.
Ever think about how many reports they get a day, per server? They have to pay a bunch of guys to read all those full time. Also, a report is not synonymous with guilt. People report the players who gank them in PVP servers with false accusations all the time. To confirm, a GM has to follow that same guy around for a while to confirm the bot-behaviors with his own eyes. None of this happens quickly.
The problem arent the bots, but that Blizz doesnt ban people, who buy gold from bots. You can easily track this, if there are abnormal transactions (200 gold for a grey etc) + the general transaction volume by the bot user/company itself. If everybody realizes, their account gets banned after having spent even a 3 to 4 digit number of real life money, nobody buys this anymore. Ofc that means a drastic drop in subscribers, but thats the only way to keep the game clean.
The biggest issue is that even if they are banned they make more than enough money selling gold to immediately buy a new account and set it up again. If people would just play the fucking game this wouldn't be a problem.
Bots are good for the game. They automate away the the BS boring grindy parts of it, ultimately benefiting the player. Players unwilling to use bots too are forced to do it or they'd lose out. Bots improve player lifestyles and player health. I hope to see more bots in the future in WoW, both retail and Classic.
There's one little issue though... Blizzard nowadays are more likely to ban people for questioning human rights (or for asking for a refund) rather than actually breaking their game....
I noticed a ton of hunter bots in tanaris. Their pets still had its orignal names in chinese. They kill a ton and loot the corpse, I didnt notice them at the time as bot as they never skinned the beast so I stalked them a bit for free leather
Your mistake is that you think, that the bots now the same as in original classic. When a bot developer notices that his bots are getting banned, he will try to adjust his bot to be no longer detected by blizzards anti-cheat. That's why banns come in waves and not each week, so Bot developers can't be sure which "feature" of theirs got them caught. And Blizzard can only put so many resources into AntiCheat. They are working on it constantly but they also have other stuff to do and I don't think botters are NR1 priority. This is basically the same as copy protection in games or movies. There is a new copy protection every few years, but they always get cracked at some point, until a new one comes out again. the question is how many resources is a company willing to put in this constant ( and basically unwinnable) fight.
Best bot I encountered was some in northern feralas farming harpies, since it is a quest area and almost nobody goes there despite it being a quest area, I see as understandable bot place, but hey, this one was tricky, when you invite the bot, he will accept the invite, still makes no responds to whisper or chat, and is just following (not the actual follow but the same pathing as your character) you around killing mobs with you until you finish the quest, if you leave the party, he will just continue doing his thing, it's hard to detect, since it's behavior is really human like, but in the end if you watch it for a while, you see the same patterns again and again. On my journey to 60 I've encountered at least 200 bots if not more (yes that much and more) and I've reported every single one of them, I don't care if they are doing it for the living, I came here to play the game with real human beings and not with bots.
Shimmering Flats is where i would grind honor on my lvl 19 rogue. after a couple hours a few bots would actually start coming after me like someone hopped on and started actually playing them.
Are you saying you never had goldselling hackers that speedhacked 100x level 1s into the maintown of your faction, using their bodys in /sleep to form a word (their company name or an url)?
Unpopular opinion but Blizz only started selling gold and level boosts because the game is so repetitive that people can make bots to automate gameplay! Also love your vids Vaulty keep it up!
I've noticed that you can tell Chinese gold farming hunter bots by the fact they're using the Chinese client so their pets names are in Chinese because they don't rename them, and that they attack any mob including what you're fighting then try to loot them.
There are a few other things to look for with bots (and actual player characters made to farm gold for these websites). 1) pet name. if it is a hunter or a warlock and it has chinese characters for it's name, it is most likely affiliated with one of these sites (why else would someone using the chinese WoW client be playing on a US server?) 2) other movement related stuff. The bots I have encountered will always turn instantly, which is not something a player will do normally. One of the bots also mistook me for an enemy and followed me for a while (until I dragged it off a cliff). 3) (probably the biggest thing you didn't mention in the video) gear, especially with max level characters. Every bot that I have seen (as well as real humans doing things that are too difficult for a bot) have very abnormal itemization compared to your average player. They will have NO TRINKETS (the one time I ever saw one with a trinket it was an argent dawn commission, and it was a real human), and nearly every piece of gear they have on are simple BoE greens with various "of the ___" modifiers, sometimes with all the gear having the SAME MODIFIER. If there are other tells that you have seen, please share.
I remember finding a nelf hunter bot in Burning Steppes, farming black dragon scales. Being I was on my skinner, I let her kill the mobs and loot them. She would wait a second before skinning. I did the skinning for her =)
The guild name spammers also use two v's instead of W for the first and last W in the WWW bit. I report every single one of them. On Bloodsail Buccaneers US in Classic, it's almost invariably a troll wandering Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar.
I think part of the reason it goes unbanned is that blizzard sees it as another sub to the subcounter and if they are in little traveled areas killing little farmed mobs they are not hurting the game with their presence. They gold selling or account selling wouldn't really hurt the game either but is against TOS and I think that is where blizzard steps in, in the shadows. What I mean is that they might wait until the bot trades it's gold to someone for sale and just deletes the gold. or if the account all the the sudden start changing account info and start playing from a new place, the account gets frozen and the classic passport verification is triggered. Not maybe the best way for the players but would be the best for blizzard.
I think the functions from WC1,2,3 would be nice: Move, stay/defend, attack, follow - at death they lose the waypoints - it's good for a little break. The rotations are quite botty as it is - I'm not sure if I play or it's the developers. In a dungeon the player should be able to summon some followers or clones of their own characters instead of doing solo runs where you can get stuck. This could simply be capped to the previous expansion. In Classic no changes to keep the original experience.
I play on kirtonos and I've noticed a lot of dungeon bots where all the party members follow one person, they're all wearing the same gear and they jump at exactly the same time as the leader. I've also seen these bots killing mobs and when they melee or cast, they all attack simultaneously. Like you said, they also don't react to you when you attack them.
@@TheVincentarand multiboxing itself is allowed; the questionable aspect of it is the scripts they're using while multiboxing. Done scripts to against the TOS and the player is required to have direct access to each of the windows open. Yesterday in Scarlett monastery I killed a guy multiboxing and his spirits all released instantly on death and all revived at the same time. That would appear to be a bot.
Have you ever suspected blizzard is actually the ones making some of the bots to boost player numbers or whatever. A lot of multiplayer games as of the last few years have done this
"A human player would use a combination of keyboard turning and mouse turning". False. All my movement is done via keyboard. I use a trackball to change camera position and for targeting/selecting. The rare times I use my mouse to move is when I'm in PvP, if my opponent is skilled enough that the responsiveness will actually make a difference. That edge isn't necessary at all for PvE.
Blizzard-Activision don't actually give a shit now days about bots, that's $15/month and an always active player for their analytics. Very different Blizzard to the guys that were running Vanilla.
The Worst are the bots in WSG!!!! They just sit at the GY, then running weirdly in the field while the other faction kills them, and all they do is heal themselves, then continue running around to nowhere again... pisses me off and people that do that especially should be banned for it ruins the people on their teams game.
There is also the hunter bots that have a gibberish name and their pet is one or two chinese characters. These ones are easy to spot cause they are all done in the exact same way
Another thing you didn't mention, is many bots have gibberish names that mean nothing. They wont take time to name a character that could just end up getting banned.
Not really related with this topic, but I started playing wow a week ago with a friend for the first time. My friend created his account and made his first character as a mage and after doing a few of the quests in the beginning area he noticed in his inventory that he had a little more than 1K gold and took a picture and sent it to me, we thought that it was some kind of bonus for playing hearthstone because he used to play, all of the sudden his gold goes up to 4k and then jumps up to around 100k gold he freaks out and sends another screenshot while we were talking on disc and then gasps and goes silent I kid you not he sends a picture to me through text I open it and see 1.3M gold in his inventory then it keeps going up until 4.2M we start freaking out not knowing what is going on, we are two level 8 noobs in elywin forest fresh from spawn trying to find a way to use to use the gold but we we're far away from any city to buy anything useful or that had value.. But all good things must come to an end and his gold count starts dropping to 4.2M to 1M and then 100K to 1000 to 0 how it was supposed to be. Just curious if anyone knows what this was if it was some hacker messing with us or a weird bug/glitch.
While I was lvl 55 I found a mage bot in azshara farming nagas at the beach. I hate bots so I used him as my personal farming bot. He was opening on mobs with frostbolt so I was using Arcane Shot rank 1 to tag the mobs right before his spell was landing, so he keeps the aggro and thinks that he tagged the mob. While he was killing that mob, I was killing another one. Double the XP. Did that for hours, helped with grinding fatigue.
Just farm some honor on them and then damage them enough while fighting a mod and let the mob kill them so their armor breaks
I wish I could do that. These guys thrive in PvE servers when they are immune to other faction
So 5 kills before it becomes 0 honour
Some bots have an auto repair and even sell feature
@@kolo1364 yes but its still slightly lowering their gain
You can only do that with simple bots, but the ones I've been seeing on BFA seem to have an auto logout/alt+f4 mechanic or something so they disappear right away and im guessing because classic runs on 7.3 they can have similar ones too
vaulty is a bot in some sense as well, he repeats the same sentence over 10 times just to make the video longer, that's almost painful to watch
Yeah, he needs to pad it out to over 10 minutes for the advertisements
@@hduniverse1631 Are they wrong tho?
Does he not repeay himself multiple times in multiple diff ways EVERY video? There's no bullying happening here man. Only truths being spoken and butthurt fanboys crying i suppose
vaulty following low iq players - and no, if you're a newb you don't have any big excuses to play poorly..yeah you're a new player but there are tons of guides and information for one to soak...like in the internet people got such a big ego but in the normal life they've got to listen to some teacher or boss its legit..and now the argument about yeah i want a place where theres nobody around to teach me bla bla bla - yeah fine then suck at it and like it, but don't think that by not changing your habits you will accomplish any goal in life
@@Max-dv1kq ROFL what???
Had someone think I was a bot once, while I was doing a "critter crawl". It got kind of like I got into a pattern while playing. I like doing things like fishing, herbalism, and doing silly low grade stuff like grinding critters. I did chat with this one person that came down and kind of watched me. It was pretty funny, and I wouldn't know how to bot on a bet.
I was doing some farming and got a whisper saying I was going to get reported for being a bot, my response "I'm not a bot but your Mum says I'm like a machine" :)
What a Madlad
Badda bing
u got reported anyway xD
@@blackskull8125 back in the day. people who reported others for no reason sometimes themelves got in trouble. wasting company and GM time
Smart bot
Keep the bots for the authentic classic experience.
Reading through the comments, this was my exact same thought. Ya'll wanted WoW Vanilla... well, here it is.
Yep, hashtagnochanges lovers should embrace this.
@@CogniVision i think it's fine. it's cheating but it's not a big deal. faction imbalance is a bigger priority than bots.
@@ristonalaimo5048 Yeah I have no issue with bots, especially since they're mostly in secluded areas no one goes to anyway. So, at least someone is making use of unused areas.
If they were killing mobs in areas people needed for quests then they'd become a nuisance.
Bill Bob bruh this is classic wow. WTF QUEUE you talking about
Blizzard doesn’t care those bots are paying 15/m lol
This. Why should Blizzard care it's free profit. They're not the same company they used to be
@@SquishyEggo blizzard spent millions and got rid of honorbuddy and literally 99% of the bots
@@joachim_br That's why they are completely out of the game?
@@SquishyEggo You cant get them away its like Hide and Seek between Blizzard and Bot Devs
the funny thing is they do care they its not like its gonna be gone over night they just gotta get a new anti bot system, they do ban alot of gold buyers and botters now days so just be patient
I've reported a bot for 1 week straight in the badlands while mob grinding. Absolutely nothing has been done yet and the bot is still there. I even messaged the bot and said "your bot is poorly scripted" I then got a reply "Do you have better one?" The player then said the leveling experience is boring and bots until 60. I've lost a lot of faith in the reporting system because of this.
Blizzard is not policing bots. Or much else in Classic.
I lvld up twics from 1 to 60 and i cant use a bot to lvl up the rest of my characters becaus3ñe this pisses of to the kids that they think this should be banned eventhough there is no policy for bliZ agains bots?? Grow up guys... Sometimes is necessary.
@@neehime6 why IT Brothers them IT dose not bother no one
I write my answer up in my commentary.
this is actually TRUE The player then said the leveling experience is boring and bots until 60 xD you cant blame him for boting till 60 cause maybe he wants to only play raids or somethin
Do damage to them but dont kill them, let the mobs kill them. That way their armor will break and wont be able to continue. If they try to heal, silence, stun or interrupt them.
That doesnt gain you anything and if you dont do it 24/7 it also doesnt hurt the bot (user). Its just slowing it down a bit.
@@PiratDunkelbart how about just for fun? I'm not trying to solve the problem, I'm just trying to be a dick lol
@@dani-uf1eo Does literally nothing to them unfortunately, gold selling bots are usually a cluster of pc's running hundreds to thousands copies of WoW at the same time botting, it's not a guy behind a pc running just a couple bots
it doesn't work, some bots have auto-repair function
@RoyalWarfare Sounds like something someone who runs bots would say....
"There is this one gnome annoying me, following me around wherever i go , i didn't want to target the player so i ran, i afk'ed a bit 3 times while numb locking and i ran to three tree's that was so embarrasing i have ADD So i HAVE TO REPEAT EVERY SINGLE THING I DO PERFECTLY, i tried running to a far away zone to shake this gnome off , but he just won't get away from me"
What if a player suffers from OCD? Or is using a NES controller?
I think you mean OCD,ADD would more likely mean he'd be very sporadic...nothing he did would be the same
@@sidthesloth12 not quite. Us Adult ADD folks shift between hyper focus and no focus.
@@jeremycastleberry never heard of someone with attention deficit being able to hyper focus. As an adult with ADD that shocks me. But this is patterns and repeating them. Having autism or OCD makes way more sense then using ADD as that is not common at all for adults with ADD to hyper focus... not that hyper focusing and being obsessive with patterns are the same thing anyway.
AHAHAHAHA when you said "no one who has made it to level 60, will struggle with trees this much" i bout pissed myself...great content.
I run into these all the time. Usually 3 mages that all look alike or hunters with pets whose names consist of chinese (I'm guessing) characters. One tip off was watching one of these hunters kill something, loot it, skin it, attack a nearby mob and kill that, loot it, skin it and then run back to the first mob and loot the skin. I was on my warlock in Tanaris at the time so even though it was a blue server, I screwed with the bot by fearing their mob repeatedly. Eventually it got far enough away that their pet would either vanish or get ganked by more mobs. During my fearing, the hunter would turn and aggro another mob while the feared mob was still up and they'd melee the thing. Then I just let my fear run out letting the mob return and gank the now petless hunter. I did this several times before they insta-camped. No sitting and waiting just vanished. They were back 20 min later and I resumed my fun. I told this to my guildies and one of them suggested another thing I could do was to fill their empty inventory slots with heavy Leather balls.
that is actually not a bad idea, filling their inventory with leather balls, but for them it means nothing, for you it is just lost time, still funny tho
Imagine blizzard employees botting and selling gold to players.... Couldn't be!
@@gordonlove5121 considering how lucrative the digital market is and how governments are still trying to figure out full regulation; I can tell you this indeed goes on. Especially when you consider the products being sold: pure digital entertainment property that companies can do whatever they like to add or take away anything they want to their property. Imagine having a team outside of the company (and are in countries with very loose digital sale regulation) that is given gold from the game to sell from a website that once collected, is syphoned back through the company in either digital store transfers or simply to the company as profit that is legally taxed, and this doesn't break a single law. Just wait until there is 100% regulation on all digital sales, you have no idea how much money these companies are making right now and the different ways of syphoning that money directly back in ways the IRS have no fucking clue to even access/understand.....yet
@@gordonlove5121 I know, it literally is so easy to consider and actually execute the only ridiculous part of this is the amount of money they are making ;)
@@gordonlove5121 omg I almost forgot about the lizard people conspiracy ahaha.. holy shit
I like how this video is the definition of trying to reach 10 minutes for the money.
How you make money from 10 minute videos?
Kage naru mono youtube algorithm and watchtime.
@@ic3t3ap3ach thanx
@Venth Z lol
same, one dislike for the obvious few seconds past 10 min, as well as not condensing info
Blizzard will do nothing for bots as long as they have subscribed.
There's a disgusting amount of bots in Classic now. They're literally everywhere and they all run the same script that just goes from mob to mob grinding. I think there's so many that they outnumber real players which is why it's so hard to find groups nowadays. Meanwhile I can't even extend the terrain or nameplate view distance because Blizzard says no yet the bots can do whatever they want...
What about youtubers who make their videos just over 10 min long to get that extra ad revenue while wasting everyone else's time? Should that be banned?
I am beginning to believe that Classic has no game master support, I have experienced a lot of player abuse in classic and even went as far as reporting it to blizzard and they threatened a ban because they twisted the situation as "I'm abusing the report tool by opening multiple tickets" which wasn't the case
I once ran into a group of 40 bots all in the same guild, reported it but nothing happened.
great video bruv
sometimes I feel like a classic WoW robot when I'm playing, perhaps these "bots" are just players that have gone mad.
but seriously tho, hopefully there will be some sweeping bans in the future for botters and gold buyers/sellers.
I saw six dwarf hunters named xxxa, xxxb, xxxc, etc. They all had the same appearance and they were positioned in two rows of 3 place back to back, in a corner of Suramar, and just kept shooting constantly. It was so creepy. I also saw a druid in cat form which just kept doing the one same move endlessly. He was still at it 40 minutes later when I went back to the same place for another quest. Just disturbing. But not half as much as the messages in all chat channels trying to sell you dungeon runs. This is so annoying. I see more and more raiding groups that say that you have to pay to join. What the frell...
Player reporting,
Blizzard: you think you do, But you dont
I injured my right hand and was playing classic with my left hand only, keyboard turning and grinding out of the way. Oh dear 🤣
Once played through a starting zone, found a troll that just stood there... Killing boars... over, and over and over again. He didn’t even move... it was disturbing
If you're talking about the stonefield farm in elwynn, that was probably a player.
Any class with ranged attacks dsbm just stand there and make each boar come to them with the first attack. Kill a bunch, loot and skin them all without moving, and you can level through the beginning stages of leather working in under an hour.
@@keight6090 and just what makes you think a troll would be farming boars in Elwynn?
@@samsterling1462 I mean... I'm not familiar with the troll areas but the same strategy would work anywhere there's an abundance of boars in a small area.
You also have to remember that I wrote that reply 2 years ago when I was just a baby player. Maybe it was silly to use Elwynn forest as an example but again, the strategy is pretty universal.
A faster way to judge if someone is botting on your own faction, is to inspect their gear. If their gear is all BoE: 1. They have not done any quests as quest rewards give BoP gear(usually) 2. They have not grouped for instances (as finding groups takes time) 3. All their gear is usually from AH or world drops. Because they only farm trash mobs, trash mobs only drop BoE, and AH only sells BoE, botter's equipment would only consist of BoE. Only once I've seen a bot with a BoP green belt(out of 15 bots from my own faction), and this is for leveling bots as I've never encountered a lvl 60 bot.
idea for 2019 bots.. What if these bots automatic report you for harassment if you follow after to much ?
To truly make this idea solid.. Have bot farms follow each other, And a 2-5 handlers. Get the handlers learned in english really well, and then play the 'parent thats worried about their child' with repeated following/camping.
Hunter bots especially can and will resurrect their pets when out of combat. Plus, run back to corpse and restart pattern. Most alliance bots i have encountered were in duskwood next to the cemetery killing spiders. Others where in stonetalon since people avoid that zone and ofc everywhere in tanaris.
Dude never thought of sending them on a trip with my priest. :Ο this opens possibilities!
I didn't see a single boat in this video.
0:26 Yeah, like you never pressed Num Lock and went someplace (like coffee refill).
I had a farming spot in Uldum back in Cata. One time, a shaman came and started killing stuff around. So i took a short break, came back, he was still there. I was like "ok time for some competition" but then i noticed he wasn't acting like a human. I tried to talk to him, but ofc there was no answer. I reported him but it took about 2 weeks to get rid of him....after opening several tickets...
7:20
vaulty: I don't want to reveal his identity. So im blurring is name.
Also Vaulty: Im locking im so I can make sure its im.
**ILLUSION 100**
easy way to spot a bot, throw them invite, if they decline instantly, they do it at hyperspeed that no player would do, same if they accept, if they do nothing and let the timer expire, try again, no player wouldnt wisp you or reacted to you in some way to find out why are you keep inviting him
It hurts to watch classic blizzard fans still think they can ask for anything.
Its been more then six years since Activision overhauled their staff and split resources from titles apart.
You guys need to realize blizzard of 2010 are gone.
Blizzard does nothing. Many people report on Reddit that they mass reported a bott, and after 2 weeks it is still botting.
U forgot about Alterac Valley honor farm bots... >
seen tons of bots farming shellfish cages in a Desolace.
I constantly see them farming the shellfish there as well. Usually on the one just to the left of the bridge where no pats come.
@@TheDarrenO i report them every time
lol yep, im 95% sure that i ran into one while doing that quest. Like come on, leave some for the rest of us
Yeah same here
same, i found one on zandalar tribe, eu server, an orc warlock, farming shellfish for weeks while i was trying to get my own lvl 40 mount.. whispered him, but ofc nothing, his movement pattern was illogical aswell, trying to contest my traps and moving to the same trap i was moving to, then once they fail to capture, they simply swim on to the next trap in an equally illogical manner, because the next trap was on the ocean bottom, yet the bot swam over the underwater hill, onto the other side to another trap... So i reported him. But i havent been back since i got my mount. so i dont know if he's still there, i bet he is though.
Saw a (rogue) bot some time ago grinding the wyvern in thousand needles. Watched and killed him a few times, even running in circles with him for about 5 minutes as he did in fact react and run to me (he didn't try another path to get to me, just followed in the circle... was funny as hell). Afterwards I kited him into the feralas zone where the feral druid in the video was. Thing is... those mobs were too high level for him. Watched a while and indeed he resurrected at the same spot every time, just to get killed again by the mobs. Not only will his armor break, but he wouldn't get away until the person behind it would notice. I left with a very good feeling. :D
Sometimes I feel like a gm is watching me and so I try doing human movements
I remember making some complexe macros back when I used to play PW, so I could grind / farm with my legs up, drinking beer and only using my mouse whilst watching an anime on the side. Wonder if I got reported at all back then.
last time i played you could always find bots by the shrimp cages in desolence. normally level 42-43 guildless rogues all with the same gear.
An interesting thing about botting, is that some games (not WoW) allows it and sometimes even encourages it, because it inflates their player count. Although, the one I'm most familiar with that allows botting is one that only lets you be semi-afk at most. If you display botting actions, they'll message you and ask you what you're doing. If you respond in a timely manner, you're in the clear. If not, then you get killed and temp-banned for afk farming.
I know of a game where all the basic bots were built in, made the game interesting
As a previous botter (end of last year I quit), people claiming blizzard wont ban us for "income" and whatnot are entirely wrong. We had people with 30+ accounts instantly being banned. CONSTANTLY. The underground groups total population of accounts would drop by 20 to even 50%, one of them any reasons I quit because it was unsustainable how Blizzard would hound you even if you didn't do anything too bad. Even trial accounts weren't safe or some accounts that didn't even do anything would be banned. Which is quite ridicilous, getting banned for botting (though you are a botter) before even doing anything and when questioning blizzard they would instantly claim you botted and that "they can see on their machines you were botting" which is a flat out lie.
Bots only moving with keyboard is false as well as they also use click to move, though it was discouraged back at Q4 of 2019 because it was assumed blizzard used that to detect botters.
The bot Hasit uses an old druid fightclass (basically what your bot uses to combat with) so it's why his performance is so shit. It's incredibly annoying to make a proper fightclass unless you know what you are doing AND want to invest the time and effort into making it. But yes, all skills got a treshold of like "50% HP, start to heal" and also settings in the program to "ignore other players" because usually the bot loses to a player 99% of the time. If not just getting stuck somewhere and being left there, and nothing is more annoying than coming back to your bot and seeing it stuck somewhere for the past 3-4 hours.
Now, Hasit could be using a different bot program as plenty of underground groups out there just with fewer people are running around. Because the bot shouldn't be attacking you even if you move infront of them. They should 100% ignore you and not do anything, actually they should be trying to run away from you in an opposite direction trying to exit combat.
The night elf, 2nd one, is from my previous community. There is an option in the bot to make you randomly jump from time to time, nobody really uses it, also nobody really responds to whispers as it tends to cause more problems than solve(For the botters).
As for the movement, it's because the pathing of the bot is shit. Like really, you should see it flying in retail. It's something the community got use to over time... Though back in the day it wouldn't stop randomly before attacking, could be some issue with new pathing used to avoid blizzard detection. Like it literally has a "beta" ray thats supposed to detect obstacles and avoid them, but it has been in beta for probably longer than illidan has been imprisoned and the bots attempts to try and get loose usually come down to going left or right. instead of god damn retracing its steps and trying to go around.
Anyway to finish off, your reporting is worthless and more often than not you achieve nothing.
What got botters 99% of the time was blizzards new detection methods and 1% time being reported over 10 times in a single day.
Out of all my accounts lost I probably lost less than 5% of them to player reports. And killing the bots achieves nothing either really, they are coded to repair and unlike real players they wont stop even if you kill them 24 hours forever.
As for why so many bots now? Last time I heard they opened up more slots for more botters (We had a cap and we reached it before that). All those old botters getting invites to this community are rushing in seeing dollar signs while the rest of us who had been in that community before that are less illusioned by "Wew so much money to be made in classic". And as this is a month old video, that's likely the case as I think in november they opened up more slots for people to join.
As long as they make the money back they spent on accounts they wont quit, I didn't make my money back and actually went into the negatives after a few months so I packed up and left.
The thing is, if you make a anticheat too aggressive it might ban innocent people too. just flagging account who keyboard turn is not enough evidence or a ban.
I can patrol in WoW retail and report like 50 bots in an hour spamming abilties targetting like 30 things in a couple seconds looting and attacking at the same time interrupting the looting, and like 9-12 of them are standing ontop of each other, now normally no guild types kinda do this but i've been noticing that actual players from different guilds and diverse gear actually do it too its such a common practice that when people pass out or go to work they just turn the bot on, there is probably a good reason and comforting reason that many do it cause they know probably that blizzard doesnt have something implemented to detect botting but rather players have to report it and most people dont give a damn
Good news is blizzard can read the data of your RAM to know if you are botting, the group i took down i saw a few days later i saw someone whining about their account that they had for 15 years being banned for cheating and saying they did nothing wrong and people in trade were telling them that blizz can read the RAM, so if you see bots nuke the bitches!
When I see a bot fighting a mob, I like to fear the mob into other mobs, which will aggro & kill the bot. However, after half an hour this gets boring.
@@michaelrainville2140 you can do everything to a tapped mob. Maybe can't poly cause it's an animal?
@@michaelrainville2140 You can't poly because it heals the mob.
My wife spotted one in Stormwind last night. It was slow walking a continuous pattern between the bank and auction house. Had a website url for the "guild" name. Thanks to your vid, she recognized it for what it was and reported it.
@vaulty This is not necessarily a bot. In a comment I just posted, I mentioned a program called Glider I used to use in classic and BC. It's a program to help you level when you just want to get past the really boring levels.
I used to spend much of my time in Wow grinding out of the way areas like this for gold, reputation, and random rare drops. Often someone would come up to my character and start jumping around. Then they'd message me. All of which I ignored because I was busy working. Then they'd message that I was a bot and they were going to report me. Personally I found those nosy, needy players far more annoying than any amount of bots.
4:24 ohhh i know what they come from now....
@Jeremy Smith whisper : chinise
It's hard to detect fully external bots like pixel bots. The only way really is if the botting site is big then they can make code against their program to detect it and ban all who uses it.
That Druid 🤣
Thanks for the videos Detective Vaulty!
I often see bots in modern WoW... And even in highly populated areas. I guess that that highly populated areas actually mask the bots, cause nobody cares to examine what other players do when they are doing their daily World Quests. Me neither. But sometimes it's very striking and even absurd. At least three times I saw some kind of multibot. It was like 6 to 9 characters of the exact same race, class, spec and even appearance and gear, running around in perfect unison. So perfect that they were abusing the no collision WoW engine and were walking inside each other. But so many players in one place, it was impossible not to notice different animations when they stopped or started walking. This kind of bot was very fast, didn't stop much, so observing it and following it was rather hard.
"Press the spacebar in your boting program" xD
Great vid...just an FYI, I’ve reported the same two players for obviously using a bot program and the second time I reported the same 2 players said since you don’t care, I’m going to use one also...still no GM response. I honestly believe Bliz cares more about their Chinese farmers than them breaking rules anymore...on a side note, since they obviously don’t care about using bot programs, do you think it’s safe for me to buy some gold...🤔😂😂😂. STAND WITH HONG KONG!
Interesting video. The bot spam invites is one problem with classic that I actually have encountered. Started getting it about a week ago, just lots of spam invites to channels. You can turn channel invites off in settings. I recommend doing so, i assume that these gold selling companies are also the ones who steal wow accounts? Maybe not since they want repeat customers but its a sketchy service and most of it is done from China from what I understand.
How will they steal your account without you giving them the password/email. It's a business and they make a lot of money selling gold/accounts.
I will def start moving oddly when i see someone watching me now. Jump into trees and tank turn around them.
Found 5 have bots farming in Redridge before BGs, got tons of honor on my twink to get him almost rank 3. Same thing they never tried attacking me at all. Instantly drink and eat when revived, only focused mobs, ignored me or any other people with me.
Watch for the ones that have their pets with Chinese characters as a name. As I was told elsewhere, they are identical and ironically basically say in Chinese 'I am not A Bot'.
There are websites (accepting only cryptocurrencies) that sell these bots to folks.
Yup i seen that
Im going to start walking into walls now
I've seen a lvl 55 druid but there was 4 of them all in a very close line with the same name but 1 letter different, was this a cheater?
could be a multiboxer who plays on multiple accounts
yea just a multiboxer.. Was fun to run into in wpvp, big honor drops!
Once saw a multiiboxer on five warlocks named Plaague, Chikinpox, Toefungus, Malarya, and Diarrhea.Not gonna lie, I was impressed.
It’s legal but still I think it’s along the lines of creating characters to sell.
@@TheMagicPencilG some folks might do that, but a lot of multiboxers are just doing it for the efficiency and/or challenge.
Man i love bots more gold means lower gold prices at vendors, which means I'm getting richer and the poorer well u guessed it. I FUCKING love bots and I'm happy they are taking over this game.
Had one bot farming in the spider valley in stonetalon mountain when I was there farming spider silk. Mobs respawn instantly and the bot had very similar patterns showcased here and always with the same pathing. It was programmed to run the set path to target untapped mobs and if it found a target and it was tapped in front of it, it stopped for 2 seconds and continued on the path. But there was a small window where you could tag the mob to yourself and the bot would still perform it's programmed attack rotation, killing the mob for you. I got other player to also report the bot, but unfortunately they were still left off the hook for like 2-3 weeks at least.
Ever think about how many reports they get a day, per server? They have to pay a bunch of guys to read all those full time. Also, a report is not synonymous with guilt. People report the players who gank them in PVP servers with false accusations all the time. To confirm, a GM has to follow that same guy around for a while to confirm the bot-behaviors with his own eyes. None of this happens quickly.
The problem isn't detecting the bots so much as identifying the program they use and then catching as many as they can in a wide net.
I love reporting the bots from the AH. And then i get that letter in the mail saying a ban happened and they lost everything. Feels really good
People been reporting these bots but Blizzard is not doing a thing about it. The next consecutive days, I still see the bots in the same zones.
2021 and bots are still an extremely huge problem. I just found 5 bots farming crabs on the coast of westfall just yesterday.
The problem arent the bots, but that Blizz doesnt ban people, who buy gold from bots. You can easily track this, if there are abnormal transactions (200 gold for a grey etc) + the general transaction volume by the bot user/company itself.
If everybody realizes, their account gets banned after having spent even a 3 to 4 digit number of real life money, nobody buys this anymore. Ofc that means a drastic drop in subscribers, but thats the only way to keep the game clean.
The biggest issue is that even if they are banned they make more than enough money selling gold to immediately buy a new account and set it up again. If people would just play the fucking game this wouldn't be a problem.
Bots are good for the game. They automate away the the BS boring grindy parts of it, ultimately benefiting the player. Players unwilling to use bots too are forced to do it or they'd lose out. Bots improve player lifestyles and player health.
I hope to see more bots in the future in WoW, both retail and Classic.
There's one little issue though... Blizzard nowadays are more likely to ban people for questioning human rights (or for asking for a refund) rather than actually breaking their game....
I noticed a ton of hunter bots in tanaris. Their pets still had its orignal names in chinese. They kill a ton and loot the corpse, I didnt notice them at the time as bot as they never skinned the beast so I stalked them a bit for free leather
Hmm i think i will try this too. Better yet, Im going to give my hunter pet a chinese name as just a joke on others
Excellent work! Thank you for this vid.
Your mistake is that you think, that the bots now the same as in original classic. When a bot developer notices that his bots are getting banned, he will try to adjust his bot to be no longer detected by blizzards anti-cheat. That's why banns come in waves and not each week, so Bot developers can't be sure which "feature" of theirs got them caught. And Blizzard can only put so many resources into AntiCheat. They are working on it constantly but they also have other stuff to do and I don't think botters are NR1 priority. This is basically the same as copy protection in games or movies. There is a new copy protection every few years, but they always get cracked at some point, until a new one comes out again. the question is how many resources is a company willing to put in this constant ( and basically unwinnable) fight.
Best bot I encountered was some in northern feralas farming harpies, since it is a quest area and almost nobody goes there despite it being a quest area, I see as understandable bot place, but hey, this one was tricky, when you invite the bot, he will accept the invite, still makes no responds to whisper or chat, and is just following (not the actual follow but the same pathing as your character) you around killing mobs with you until you finish the quest, if you leave the party, he will just continue doing his thing, it's hard to detect, since it's behavior is really human like, but in the end if you watch it for a while, you see the same patterns again and again. On my journey to 60 I've encountered at least 200 bots if not more (yes that much and more) and I've reported every single one of them, I don't care if they are doing it for the living, I came here to play the game with real human beings and not with bots.
Not once did the player beg you for mage food or water. Obvious bot.
Shimmering Flats is where i would grind honor on my lvl 19 rogue. after a couple hours a few bots would actually start coming after me like someone hopped on and started actually playing them.
Are you saying you never had goldselling hackers that speedhacked 100x level 1s into the maintown of your faction, using their bodys in /sleep to form a word (their company name or an url)?
Are you still making the video on StaySafe?
Bot hunting is trending like crazy man.. keep it up! It's been attracting tons of viewers who have never even played the game
Unpopular opinion but Blizz only started selling gold and level boosts because the game is so repetitive that people can make bots to automate gameplay!
Also love your vids Vaulty keep it up!
Yes, someone who actually supports vaulty, thank you.
I've noticed that you can tell Chinese gold farming hunter bots by the fact they're using the Chinese client so their pets names are in Chinese because they don't rename them, and that they attack any mob including what you're fighting then try to loot them.
There are a few other things to look for with bots (and actual player characters made to farm gold for these websites).
1) pet name. if it is a hunter or a warlock and it has chinese characters for it's name, it is most likely affiliated with one of these sites (why else would someone using the chinese WoW client be playing on a US server?)
2) other movement related stuff. The bots I have encountered will always turn instantly, which is not something a player will do normally. One of the bots also mistook me for an enemy and followed me for a while (until I dragged it off a cliff).
3) (probably the biggest thing you didn't mention in the video) gear, especially with max level characters. Every bot that I have seen (as well as real humans doing things that are too difficult for a bot) have very abnormal itemization compared to your average player. They will have NO TRINKETS (the one time I ever saw one with a trinket it was an argent dawn commission, and it was a real human), and nearly every piece of gear they have on are simple BoE greens with various "of the ___" modifiers, sometimes with all the gear having the SAME MODIFIER.
If there are other tells that you have seen, please share.
I remember finding a nelf hunter bot in Burning Steppes, farming black dragon scales. Being I was on my skinner, I let her kill the mobs and loot them. She would wait a second before skinning. I did the skinning for her =)
The guild name spammers also use two v's instead of W for the first and last W in the WWW bit. I report every single one of them. On Bloodsail Buccaneers US in Classic, it's almost invariably a troll wandering Valley of Strength in Orgrimmar.
4:24 the name says enough, a chinese name = bot by default..
I think part of the reason it goes unbanned is that blizzard sees it as another sub to the subcounter and if they are in little traveled areas killing little farmed mobs they are not hurting the game with their presence. They gold selling or account selling wouldn't really hurt the game either but is against TOS and I think that is where blizzard steps in, in the shadows. What I mean is that they might wait until the bot trades it's gold to someone for sale and just deletes the gold. or if the account all the the sudden start changing account info and start playing from a new place, the account gets frozen and the classic passport verification is triggered. Not maybe the best way for the players but would be the best for blizzard.
I think the functions from WC1,2,3 would be nice: Move, stay/defend, attack, follow - at death they lose the waypoints - it's good for a little break. The rotations are quite botty as it is - I'm not sure if I play or it's the developers. In a dungeon the player should be able to summon some followers or clones of their own characters instead of doing solo runs where you can get stuck. This could simply be capped to the previous expansion. In Classic no changes to keep the original experience.
I play on kirtonos and I've noticed a lot of dungeon bots where all the party members follow one person, they're all wearing the same gear and they jump at exactly the same time as the leader. I've also seen these bots killing mobs and when they melee or cast, they all attack simultaneously. Like you said, they also don't react to you when you attack them.
Joshua Booth uhh that’s a multiboxer and totally legal.
@@TheVincentarand multiboxing itself is allowed; the questionable aspect of it is the scripts they're using while multiboxing. Done scripts to against the TOS and the player is required to have direct access to each of the windows open. Yesterday in Scarlett monastery I killed a guy multiboxing and his spirits all released instantly on death and all revived at the same time. That would appear to be a bot.
so you will report me when i play without mouse because i move like robot?
Have you ever suspected blizzard is actually the ones making some of the bots to boost player numbers or whatever. A lot of multiplayer games as of the last few years have done this
I payed some company level a character 1-60 in 2006 and it was way cheaper than it is now
"A human player would use a combination of keyboard turning and mouse turning". False. All my movement is done via keyboard. I use a trackball to change camera position and for targeting/selecting. The rare times I use my mouse to move is when I'm in PvP, if my opponent is skilled enough that the responsiveness will actually make a difference. That edge isn't necessary at all for PvE.
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Blizzard-Activision don't actually give a shit now days about bots, that's $15/month and an always active player for their analytics. Very different Blizzard to the guys that were running Vanilla.
The Worst are the bots in WSG!!!! They just sit at the GY, then running weirdly in the field while the other faction kills them, and all they do is heal themselves, then continue running around to nowhere again... pisses me off and people that do that especially should be banned for it ruins the people on their teams game.
I like to kite these bots to places where their skript fails and the cpu may explode by such randomness
There are at least 400 bots in Benediction I have encountered. I don’t know why blizzard could know do anything to stop this game being destroyed
10 minutes 4 second video, classic vaulty content.
@gardakan936 what is there not to understand about nearly every vaulty video being just over 10 minutes long so he scores some extra ad time?
There is also the hunter bots that have a gibberish name and their pet is one or two chinese characters. These ones are easy to spot cause they are all done in the exact same way
Bots have never been patched, Blizzard just keeps suing the bot companies and creators.
Another thing you didn't mention, is many bots have gibberish names that mean nothing. They wont take time to name a character that could just end up getting banned.
Not really related with this topic, but I started playing wow a week ago with a friend for the first time. My friend created his account and made his first character as a mage and after doing a few of the quests in the beginning area he noticed in his inventory that he had a little more than 1K gold and took a picture and sent it to me, we thought that it was some kind of bonus for playing hearthstone because he used to play, all of the sudden his gold goes up to 4k and then jumps up to around 100k gold he freaks out and sends another screenshot while we were talking on disc and then gasps and goes silent I kid you not he sends a picture to me through text I open it and see 1.3M gold in his inventory then it keeps going up until 4.2M we start freaking out not knowing what is going on, we are two level 8 noobs in elywin forest fresh from spawn trying to find a way to use to use the gold but we we're far away from any city to buy anything useful or that had value.. But all good things must come to an end and his gold count starts dropping to 4.2M to 1M and then 100K to 1000 to 0 how it was supposed to be. Just curious if anyone knows what this was if it was some hacker messing with us or a weird bug/glitch.
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