I identify with this guy. I have schizoid personality. Everyone hates me because I never laugh and hate small talk. I've also concluded it's best to avoid people entirely. I wish more people were like me. When I meet other withdrawn people I feel more comfortable because they don't expect anything from me. So I actually open up and become more talkative around them. Normal outgoing people just make me wanna hide.
snickle snockle: HEllo, you describe a part of yourself well, and I feel with you there. Have you ever started reading good psychology-therapy books to learn, better understand and maybe get ideas towards solution of problems, towards change and healing? It took me decades to understand that everyone wasn't going to be given help, that they couldn't help some, or wouldn't provide the right competent people, or that it was not in my fate so far. That I had to take my also physical health into my own hands. You sound to have normal psychical problems too. That comes naturally in a (sensitive intelligent) human being. Of course one is ging to get tenseand inhibited when noticing ppl don't seem to like one. Isolation is not good for the soul, evcen if we need alonetime. HAve you got a good habit of daily outdoor daylight/sunshine movement? I shouldn't think so, and it would help improvethings. So would really good quality helath food 3 regular, early times a day.m You may also have some nutritional imbalances and toxic metals, as do everybody today and which is influenced by lifestyle, mood, overall health. Robust ppl can handle the toxins better than sensitive, traumatized ones. Natural detoxification protocol is good. This may be borin glyt written, but I am too tired and sicj´k in mistreatment and decades of severe sleep deprivation to engage and put a lot of pedagogic effort, as I need paid for my work, and help to have the abuse stop, get health care, trauma therapy, my homwe back and all I ned to get my life finally. But I Ask you to not give up and get active researching that schizoid p and help ypurself. THERE ARE 12 STEP PROGRAMS FOR SELF-HELP IN WELL-STRUCTURED GROUPS, MAYBE YOU'D FIND A program and a GROUP of your liking, to settle down, calm, and start changing. I like AA' andOA's Big Book the best and only go to such meetings nowadays. you can seek and ask for a sponsor to help through the 12 step-work, because alone it's difficult for most. It takes some courage and inner strength , and willingness to get a better life. There are phone/ zoom and online meetings, which may be an alternative. Although when one it soo alonely, I think seeing ppl IRL is best. Even if one doesn't get all understood. Others have their pronblems, even after thaty have got help there. BEing human is complicated and changes.all the time. Oh, and the cell phone / gadgets are not good for us, so keep a normal real telephone ,or switch it off and kep it fara way from the body when sleeping at least, will ease symptoms. Seek naturopathic treatment if you cana fford it, and nutritiontherapoy. One can work from different angles. You can get better. Self-love is also good to practise, that will help in others loving one. TAke care of yourself, is a key. How old are you?
@JaneSmith-nothingness They're just too hyper for me and it's annoying, so they don't know what to do. So they just get passive aggressive or really jumpy or avoidant. It's not good for anyone involved. I wonder what my purpose in life is.
Sorry those people hated you they were uneducated and it's a reflection of them being a horrible human to another human being they didn't understand. I'm Autistic and people didn't like me either I feel great by myself but I have a husband thankfully He's Autistic too so it works we don't like small talk I cringe at crowds and new people so I get it my family thought I was antisocial when I was young. Just know you are who you are unapologetic and those who are meant for you in your life will not judge you but know that you're an awesome human and accept you as you are. Keep your head high and I'm a Christian of nobody told you Jesus Christ loves you and your accepted. Praying for you 🙏🏼peace and blessings
“It’s got to be about what you CAN do.” I haven’t heard anyone else say this in almost 20 years. My son is now 22. When he was 4 years old his teachers from his nursery school and then public school kept pointing out what he “couldn’t do.” “He doesn’t like dress up….he didn’t make today’s craft….he didn’t stay in the circle for story time….” I didn’t understand why I kept hearing these statements. I would just think, well , of course he didn’t like story time because he didn’t like the story, he never liked dress up, he never liked crafts. This was all normal to me. It didn’t bother me so why is it bothering you? I would just think, he simply doesn’t like those things. At the same time, he would do puzzles all day, he would sit for story time if it was a concept book(alphabet, numbers, shapes, etc.). He didn’t like crafts(he didn’t like the texture of anything sticky like glue or paint), but give him a marker and he would draw the planets of the solar system or draw a map for a treasure hunt(at age 4). He wouldn’t sit for the math lesson because the lesson was about sticking black dots on a paper lady bug(a lesson about counting to 5), meanwhile he had been reading number books at home that went up to 1000. Every day I got the daily report of what he “didn’t” or “wouldn’t” do. We finally got him assessed(he was 5 years old) because every teacher then suggested we should, so we did. At the end of the hour long assessment the doctor looked at my husband and I and said, “Why can’t everyone see what’s right here instead of what’s wrong?” I wanted to hug him. I felt like I was saying that same statement for years and I finally heard someone else say it. It was heart warming to hear you say the same thing near the end of this video. Thank you❤️ My son is now in his final year of computer engineering at university 😊
I'm so happy for your son that he had you and your husband who loved him as he is, even in the face of the pressure from incompetent school staff; and so glad for all of you that you met that doctor. I've worked in the school system, and hearing children--usually boys--discussed as though they weren't even there, and the remarks like, on a day when the child had had his "medication," "oh he's had such a good day" or the reverse when he hadn't had his "medication". Imagine being that child, and feeling the medication coursing through your veins, feeling it messing with you, and then hearing the adults saying that it's such a good thing: yeah, for them. What a rip-off. God bless parents like you@michaelgreen8715
My form of Aspergers is also characterized by heightened senses and sensory overload. When I was in high school, I worked at NIH, and tested my vision on a spectrophotometer. I could see way into the ultraviolet spectrum. It just looked like dark violet, but very visible. I also tested my hearing, which went way further than normal hearing in the high pitches. Once a dentist tried to use an "ultrasonic" drill on me, and I threw it across the room because it was so loud and piercing to my ears. The effect of all this sensory overload was extreme withdrawal. I also had obsessive interests, which I pursued doggedly. I asked to play classical piano at four, got into chemistry, astronomy, gardening, and rock collecting. I also tasted everything--not disgusting things like tadpoles, but every plant I would bite to see what it tasted like. I rarely talked about these interests, because outside of classical music, no one else seemed to share my interests. I was living pretty much in my own world. For years I had a vanity license plate that read KLAATU--which was the name of the alien in The Day the Earth Stood Still. I certainly didn't know I was autistic at that time, but most definitely felt like an alien. I had (and have) a lot of social problems. I always wondered why everyone else seemed to know how to behave, or what was considered important or appropriate. It's like they took classes that I somehow missed. That is a recurrent nightmare I've had my whole life--missing important classes. I gave up on being socially "normal" pretty early. I realized that I would just have to wing it and improvise, then take the consequences. Otherwise, I was just going to remain totally withdrawn.
I have this dream, too. Over and over again. That I'm late for school or miss the whole day. Most of the time because I can't find my car or miss the train. But it doesn't feel like a nightmare.
I also have this exact same dream about missing class, or showing up but I don't have my homework with me. I also have chronic sleep paralysis, which I didn't know wasn't normal until recently. I can hear very low tones, especially in music that other people can't. I have to leave shops sometimes because of they play certain music it seems to just get louder and louder until it gives me an anxiety attack.
I had a "lost my car" dream a few months ago. In the dream I was thinking, "Well, maybe I'll drive back to that parking lot. Maybe I left it there. Wait a second!! I'm driving. I'm IN my car."@@anne.1205
Your experience aligns with mine. It's good to know ow other people are experiencing the world in a similar way. I had my hearing tested and could hear in to the ultrasonic range. I could also differentiate shades of color in the 99th percentile of people. No ultraviolet as far as I know. I can also since childhood hear specific vehicles and be able to identify them by sound alone, as long as the exhaust isn't fully muffled. I can also identify vehicles from a brief glance oh headlights only. I never trained or studied this, just picked it up.
So nice to see he is still smitten ❤. After 10 years.. love his quirks. I'm adhd, ptsd,cptsd diagnosis at 60 years..absolutely no friends for 23 years now.try to keep busy with home, and raising my grand child. ❤❤
I have been a mom for 22 years.I have known that I had an Aspergers daughter for only a few months. Yes .life with my girl can be very challenging, but there are such amazing aspects too, such as her intelligence, how she thrives on challenges, and her deep connection with animals,especially dogs. She once had lunch with a hawk that stayed with her for several minutes Normal is a deception. Weird is a gift.
There does seem to be a strong connection to animals and nature for many, though not all. Maybe it’s the more sensitive sensory perception and intuition.
I could almost be this guy. The relating to animals, nature, etc. I used to catch tadpoles and smell and taste toads (eek! they're poisonous ). I also didn't have a great need for social contact. Life was not easy because of autism, though. Now I'm retired and often spend hours in my studio drawing. Autism is a blessing and a curse all in one.
But it’s only a curse when you apply the need for social interaction, is that correct? Why can’t we just let you be in your studio as much as you want? Why can’t it be up to you?
Best doc I have seen in a long long time. Thank you so much for putting this together! My son has aspergers and I just adore him and so appreciate the way he has touched my life and so many others. His hunger and thirst for things that most people could care less about, intrigue me thanks to his interests.
Great video 👏👏👏I thank you so much for the video and I send my best wishes to Chris Packham. There were moments of me pouring tears watching his experience in adolescence that I felt empathy and could remember my own life story.
"Imagine all those people trapped in their room, because they're isolated by this condition. They haven't been able to sculpt opportunities, manage themselves in a way that allows them to fulfill their lives. That's like a ghastly sentence set in a vile fairy tale. No one should be imprisoned by this condition. They should be allowed to exhault in those aspects of the condition which empower them. That difference is such a valuable tool and enormous asset; to be able to see things, understand things, process things and remember things in a way most people can't do, has to be seen as a gift, not something that you're badged with and it's about what you can't do. It's gotta be about what you can do."
I appreciated this much. What a lovely exposition. I wish I could meet him in person. As a recently, (late) diagnosed person with autism at 35, I'm just now realizing how much I enjoy other neurodivergent people. I immediately feel comfortable.
You should get a parrot, a Macaw for free flight! It's everything you loved about that first bird you had. And they live for far longer than 6 months, try anywhere from 30 years to 70 years or even longer sometimes. That's why I got my macaw, I got tired of feeling like I was constantly grieving the loss of a pet. I wish I knew a way to make sure that you see my comment but that'll never happen. Hopefully someday someone tells you about free flight and it clicks in your head like it did in mine. My bird saved my life.
We are Frightenly similar in so many ways; except i am an female American; never ate, but caught many tadpoles, never listened to Punk Rock nor owned any Kestrol bird....but owned Two Large Moluccan Parrots.. but I have recently spent over 17 years exploring & living in the Mountains and Forests OFFGRID in the middle of nowhere and I am a BioChemist & was a 4.0 student in college but am very much also a Scientist & Naturalist. He even reminds me of 'The Professor' on the old Gillians Island TV programme. Resembles him too (uncanny resemblence) I too, am a Marathon Traveller & Retiree; Explorer & Researcher in PNW (Pacific NorthWest) in USA. SelfDiagnosed ASD Aspbergers Spectrum. In total agreement with his resistance to that cubic milimeter brain electrode zapper; "A Little Dab will do You eh-"? From that horror movie with Jack Nicholsen. This mans personality is nearly identical otherwise with mine own, except i cant stand his musical tastes; i am therefore Classically Trained since childhood and have a completely different style of music preferred. When he started off the dialogue in the programme saying "My Brain is different than yours" .. ...Nope. Im a Neuro-Divergent also; "hardwired differently" and see the surrounding world very differently than regular NEURO-TYPICAL humanity on Planet Earth. I have learnt to "MASK" THE ASPBERGERS Autism symptoms in order "TO SURVIVE" in the normal world and APPEAR "NORMAL" LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.. I have High functioning ASPBERGERS Im a reclusive person and a loner (like that man) and have spent nearly 18 years living as a hermit in the Wilderness & Mountains and Forests of The Great Pacific Northwest; Experimenting with OFFGRID LIFESTYLES & having very little to no contact with anyone at all, unless it was to obtain food supplies and gasoline or to change vehicles ...i do love animals and birds too, i just do not have any at the moment. God Bless Him; I see he is able to function well enough in society to become a TV Personality and have his own TV SHOW. 😃🙂 Thats how he affords his amazing dwellings!! I too, would have a house in the forest in the middle of NoWhere, if i had my druthers ...my pension unfortunately, does not afford me such luxuries. Well, perhaps something else will come up that can afford that lifestyle one day. (Hope springs eternal...as they say) Enjoyed very much this Documentary; Thankyou Very Much Indeed .. GOD BLESS YOU PS: I scanned some other comments & seems there are enough Others here who are so identical; we need to form our own CLUB, except no one would ever attend the meetings!! 21:37
I have five kids. Two have been diagnosed with Asperger's, two are "normal", and one actually has an appointment tomorrow to get tested. I'm fairly certain they get it from me, but I am 40 and have never been tested. I would never want a cure for any of them. Being social isn't really as important as people make it out to be. I wouldn't want to be all concerned about people I don't know, and what they're doing. It sounds exhausting.
1:36 This ‘cascading memory’ he’s talking about - I do that. That’s how I invent things, by joining together stuff that lines up in my head intuitively but are otherwise unrelated to anyone else. Like reading scientific studies proving five various things and then tying it together to form a new invention that’s never been done using those new principles someone else already proved in a lab. So I think this is a feature many of us have and is probably the defining feature of many (if not most) great inventors and scientists. I imagine many of them would qualify as autistic in today’s world. So perhaps one career option for many young autistic people might be inventing new ways of doing things in their areas of interest. That’s what kept my alive through childhood, drawing schematic diagrams of the stuff I was into as a kid (microphones and recording studios). If this is perhaps a common feature of ASD, then perhaps we’re all inventors whether we know it or not?
Chris, what a beautiful soul you are. You actually have huge empathy…you just internalise it. In so many ways you are like a mirror of my own personality…I grew up on a huge farm in the middle of nowhere and am like an animal and plant whispererer (I feel what’s happening with them and see tiny subtleties of change within them)…it’s like deeply understanding them. Older and female and happy living on my own…people often overwhelming. Thank you for giving me the gift of seeing and understanding a big chunk of who I am…it’s amazing when I’m almost 60. Please don’t let anyone try to change who you are…just be yourself. I don’t know about anyone else but the other thing about me is I am overly honest…just can’t tell lies…is this a part of Asperger’s?
Yes, the inability to lie is a "symptom" of Aspergers. I have the same problem, although I don't really see it as a problem in myself. However, that means that I rarely can tell when others are lying to me, which has caused a lot of issues. In general, aspies like order and rigidity. Lying throws that out the window because now you have to remember the lie and who you told it to and what other people know. Total chaos.
I was just telling my brother yesterday how I made a teacher hate me in high school, just because I was honest. I had no clue that I was being rude, and no intention of being rude or even critical. I just answered a question honestly. I think this trait can make people uncomfortable, especially if they are insecure. Positively, my teachers in grad school used to ask me to critique their writing, because they knew I would give them honest feedback. Being direct is a way of keeping things simple, because even if there are social repercussions, at least I know who I am in the midst of all this confusion. @@ldebusk-xu4br
Yes lies and the notion how often others lie and a never ending ability to recognize that and utter disappointment when I realized I’ve been fooled yet again
I am high functioning, but have a relative that is not. I did not find out about myself until I was Mr.Parkham's age. Despite having an IQ over 145, I have struggled in many aspects of life, and never understood why. I went through the typical school and college system, and excelled in some areas, and struggled in others. My relative has a much more severe form, and is nonverbal. He was diagnosed as an infant and has been in a special school year round for his entire life. His symptoms have not improved in any appreciable way. He requires round the clock care, and I certainly hope some "cure" will come along one day that will give him a better quality of life than he has today. I fear for what his future will be.
I have a friend whose son was nonverbal, etc. They tried all kinds of things, but what worked was taking him off of all major food allergens: gluten, corn, milk, soy, nuts. The change was mind-boggling, from screaming, fixating and being nonverbal he became totally articulate within about one year. I saw it myself. One year he was like a crazed animal, and the next playing quietly with toys and speaking in full sentences. He was mainstreamed in school, but still has occasional emotional meltdowns. I think the autistic community over-focuses on differences in the brain, when a lot of the problem is in the gut--leaky gut particularly. I know a woman who practices a form of acupuncture called NAET. It aims at eliminating food allergies, and does actually work, though not entirely reliably. I asked her if she had ever treated anyone with autism, and she just lit up. She helped this autistic little girl tremendously with her treatments. Autistic people almost all have digestive problems, but this never seems to get any attention.
@@steveneardley7541Yes, gut inflammation and leaky gut are a big part of the problem. Inflammation in the gut and inflammation in the brain go hand in hand. And guess what the biggest cause of inflammation in gut and brain in young children is..
Chris Packham, you are an inspiration to any human being, anywhere in the world. I had no insight into autism or Asperger's syndrome but now I feel like I see the world for the very first time and appreciate it for the many different perspectives and ways to live life to the fullest!! Thank you for making this wonderful documentary!!
My husband and I (and our 4 kids) are autistic and we struggle to understand each other because girls and boys are still so different even though they are both Autistic
That is a very good point. I believe I am autistic and I suspect my mom is too but we are very different. When I talked to her about it she confessed that she didn't want to know. For me, exploring autisim has been enlightening and freeing. I am no longer broken. I am normal but different.
Same my husband and I are Autistic too. We have the same situation as you we struggle to understand each other. We love one another and would not trade being autistic for anything we are unashamed 👍🏼💛
Der Tag an dem wir die Einzigartigkeit eines jeden Menschen akzeptieren und als Quelle einer miteinander funktionierenden Welt betrachten muß man nicht mehr darüber nachdenken ob Autismus eine Heilung braucht.
@anntunaley9974 it's because this world isn't meant for us, they make us out to be damaged but many believe we are the next stage in evolution and just need the right understanding and environment and we fly. Our minds are amazing I just have to hope my children grow up in a more accepting environment
I can relate on the social part (don't want friends, parties), didn't even complete my education cause of that. (school = sicializing) Went to several therapist but they said I was just anxious and 'bubbly' as a personality and no way I could be autistic.
Not if you go to adult college or university you can get through unnotoced if you want to. It is much harder in working life to do this. When I whent to school I enjoyed the math and science, but not the social side. I used skive off when there was sport to do my studies. School was a wast of time.
Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat. My parents moved around a lot when I was little so I'd change schools almost every year, any friends I made in school only lasted that one year and then just disappeared. Growing up I only had two real friends, then I moved to a different town far away from my hometown and they disappeared too, luckily in my final year of school I befriended two of my classmates who refused to just "disappear" from my life like everyone else did. I know I'm not good at keeping in contact with people, it's very easy for me to accidentally "ghost" people because I'm just not very social at all. Only lasted like three months in my country's equivalent of high school (I'm Finnish) before dropping out. I hate group projects.
I have tried to collaborate several times on big projects. They have all been total disasters, not so much because of the social side of it. It's just that the projects were never completed, and barely even got off the ground. Now I know to avoid these things. I seem to have a naive faith that I can work collaboratively with others. I blame them more than me when it doesn't work, but it hardly matters who's to blame. It's just a losing proposition.@@Sazandora123
I am a special needs teacher and a parent of a child on the spectrum. While watching the ABA approach is uncomfortable to watch and a challenging place to work, I wonder if the motivation is less about stamping out Autism and more about trying to provide as much independence and opportunity for the child to function as an adult as possible. It's all well and good to have your own personal private place to live if you can afford it. If you can't function in a workplace environment then your options as an adult are far more limited. Life-long care for your child is expensive and a frightening thing to think about as a parent.
i completely agree that parents need to provide help to create self sustaining adults if possible. the problem is that neurodivergent adults who had went through ABA find it both unhelpful and incredibly abusive and suffer from trauma wounds.
I'm reading a book named autism breakthrough it's Raun Kaufman's book he talks about his experience with autism and about the son rise approach , it's very interesting a very respectful program, I advise all parents to take a look to the son rise program.
Yes. I have two children on the spectrum. One high functioning and undx and one more academically challenged and dx. And one with adhd and other health issues (EDS) undx. I worry for the future of all of them being able to support themselves financially when their father and I can’t. Almost resigned to them never leaving home.
True, but it is nice to see there are people like him. As well on the spectrum, I identify more with what he experiences and the way he thinks than many other documentaries where people with ASD are shown.
Right but people like me who have an autistic child who (so far but it's still too soon to tell) seems like he will be able to make it through life on his own enjoy seeing autistic people just living life independently and doing things like everyone else. It's a constant fear in my mind of "what if?" The unknown for what the future holds for my son is stressful.
What's your point? His experience isn't valid because somebody else has it worse? You do know by that logic the other person's experience you're sticking up for is invalidated too, right? If you'll point me to them I'll gladly let them know what a gift the challenge of their disability is to you. As someone who proxied my mother's Munchausen it is indeed one etiology of autism. The genome's been sequenced for over a dozen years. Behavioral heritability within families looks "genetic". Definitely makes sense the person pathetic enough to do what you're doing would have a hollow ego in need of perpetual inflation.
I'm a 57 year old with Asperger's. It is for sure a blessing and a curse, but it's been nice to know why I'm so "unique" as i was just recently diagnosed.💖🌻
There is surprisingly little in the way of Medical/Scientific data . it's more of a Biography than documentary which is not at all bad However the thumbnail showed brain scans , which is what I came here for .I agree it succeeds as the gift of understanding . Many will be able to relate to folks " on the spectrum" and that's Gold .
I doubt any scientist could explain it well enough. They would still be speculating, because it's not something neurological people properly understand. You need someone who is an asperger to explain how it is for them to get it to the rest of the world.
Neurotypical people have no clue how mentally and physically exhausting it is to try and act “normal” all day. But, I believe we aren’t neurodivergent, we are “neurospecialized”. Our brains have abilities that are necessary and useful that normies have trouble doing.
And they make no effort in our direction which seems unfair to me. We are expected to accommodate our own disadvantage. It’s like asking a blind person to make their own braille.
Seeing him go into the school as an autistic person - this is exactly what all schools should do before ever implementing therapies or even offering school for those with autism. The environment is not conducive to the neurodivergent brain. The layouts, the colors, the patterns, the noise.
Sorry just on the topic of “curing” autism? I think you would have to look at trying to change our very chemical molecular structure quite dramatically,especially as you get further along the spectrum. I practice earthing, I love doing the washing because of the static electricity. It’s fascinating.😳😳💖💖💖
As an ABA practitioner in the US, I certainly do not try to stamp out autistic traits. My focus is on giving children tools that empower them to navigate the world and their communities. I teach children how to recognize their needs and I tech them pro-social ways of getting those needs met. I also teach families to recognize the child’s legitimate needs and ways to meet those needs in the context of their families and communities. Activism by the autism community has been very instructive to those practicing ABA.
@@ZFern9390 not really. I do have some very serious flaws, however catering to a hierarchy for hierarchies sake is not one of them. Constantly catering to social norms to where no one has any room to breathe is one of them
@@StanCat4 fair enough. These people are only about 40 percent of the population. They are just better organized than the rest of us and make all the rules and social edicts
I spent 10 years of my life being controlled, manipulated, and horribly abused by my ex husband. When I finally asked for a divorce, he just said OK, packed his bags, and left the next morning without saying goodbye. I found out a few years later that he had taken out a ton of loans in my name, ruined my credit, and left the country. I'm still fighting to get things straightened out. Now tell me how ALL Aspies are wonderful people.
Exactly! My recent ex husband is Asperger's and he ruined me. He is one of the most selfish people I've ever known and he is proud of it. Im 56 and not sure if I can bounce back from this. I used every drop of compassion in the marriage and now I'm an empty shell just like him. If I know or hear someone is Aspie, I run the other direction, at full speed.
@@ZFern9390 It takes a really long time to heal. Be gentle and forgiving of yourself, and take as long as it takes. Don't feel bad if you can't trust anyone right now. I'm 59, and the thought of dating again is enough to make me break out in hives. Instead, I'm working on being happy in my own company. I've accepted that if I never marry again, I'll be just fine. I have my dog to keep me company.
I am a nuroatypical with learning disabilities. It took me a long time to understand the truth is that if you stopped my nuroatypical thinking and my learning disabilities you would also get rid of my ideas and creativity and musical talent spacial skills and tactile ability. So no I no longer want to be normal or cured. I will deal with my shortcomings on my own. The other aspect of this is the normies aren't perfect either. We have gifts they are lacking. The normies are only considered better because they are the majority. More is not nessisaraly better it is just more. They have no empathy for any of us at all and that is not seen as a handicap. But when we can empathize with each other and animals but we just don't get the normies how is that a lack of empathy? It is just a different kind of awareness, different is not wrong it is just different.
I wonder whether we are 'disabled' or are the next step in human evolution? I can see either being correct, but with there being more and more of us being noticed, I tend to see it as a step forward in humans. As others said, we get along with each other, it's the 'normal' ones who give us grief.
Well said ! I've always considered it to be a gift ! I cherish solitude bc it's my most productive time. Art, music, don't require interacting with others.
I don't understand why you would want to take away any aspects of who you are. Of course now I'm over 60, and have gotten used to being this way. There's that one film where the main schizophrenic character has imagined people around. With time, he gets used to them, and ignores them. Greta Thunberg has Aspergers and sees that as a gift. Overwhelmingly I see Greta's abilities as a gift to humanity. Chris too. When Chris was asked which species he disliked, I was sure he was going to say humans. And he did. And I agree with that outlook. Myers Briggs classifies me as INFP, which is the least likely category especially for males like myself. Don't do it Chris ... you are like totally normal shaman material.
I wouldn't call my oversensitive ears, my equally overloaded sense of touch, my crippling social anxiety or constantly fluctuating interests a "gift". I can never study anything because my interest in it just won't last very long, I might want to pursue one career path for maybe a week or so, and then suddenly begin to lose all interest in it. I can't work because I cannot talk to strangers face-to-face at all, I tend to lock up in fear because I'm constantly anxious over what I'm supposed to say to not look like a total fool. If there was a cure to autism/Aspergers that was guaranteed to work, I would take it. I want to be a part of the society but as I am now, I simply cannot because I can't get over all these issues Aspergers gave me. It sure as heck is *not* a gift.
I’ve always loved Chris and have been fascinated by his mind for 30+ years. What an incredible man, he’s so brave talking about his condition because people immediately think of you as, almost, inferior, when in fact, I truly believe ASD people have a more evolved brain. My trans daughter has Asperger syndrome and I can fully empathise with Chris’ struggles. Asperger’s is so complex, a mix of so many spectrum diagnosis’. I too believe a ‘cure’ is a crime. Find what makes that individual tick, allow them to study that thing to their heart’s content and they’ll find a way to make a living from that. Asperger’s people are probably the most fascinating human beings on this planet in my opinion.
Cannabis can be useful but when used correctly. I have always self medicated but now...60yrs..am on medical here in australia. It has improved my relationship with my medicine along with regular therapist and exercise outdoors
You can't possibly understand how loud and overwhelming ( noise and smells) the world is if you have sensory overload sensitivity. It's a constant juggling act of avoiding the overload. People talk loudly, laugh loudly , put on loud perfumes and hand cream, strong laundry detergents and dryer sheets, on and on and on. It's always surrounding us and it feels so clostrophobic! It makes me hate hate being around people. People just talk talk about anything that flies out of their mouth incessantly. People talk on and on on their cell phones in public even with their speaker phones on 😫
I looove animals. I like the smell of animals, plants, rocks, clothes, perfumes essential oils. I would never want to taste any animal, like in this video. I love animals to much, so i do not want to hurt them, kill them. I avoid people as much as possible, but animals i welcome them. I enjoy intensely their presence and everuthing about them. So i rescue them and i am intensely heartbroken if i see a dead insect, animal. No one can comfort me. Living in the middle of nowhere. A dream of mine. Nature. Animals in the wild. No human being. No human noice. Being yourself. Never ever use this device tms on your brain. Please folks...accept your brain, eat healthy, live healthy. My god. This device. Pure human stupidity.
Can you really embrace anyone who was described as being "Sooo NORMAL!" Normal is really as bad a word as weird. Weird is at least interesting. Of course, the problem for any different people is bullying. Bullying is the labeling of anyone or anything, people, new ideas, hair cut, clothes etc...as " different" and not as good, and therefore deserving of abuse. Bullying is a sign of brain damage. People with neurological damage have scarring and lesions in the brain blocking the flow of electrical impulses. Electrical processing rises in response to new and different stimulators. The blockages from scarring act like the highway closed down to one lane during rush hour. Traffic backs up and cars start to honk horns. The result in the backed up human brain is a feeling of irritability- and anger. Why should they be made to process more!? The world has to change to please them! They have no tolerance. Until we identify bullies and bullying as a pathologic condition that needs treatment, those in their audience will be listening to them and giving them power over those who are different. Group sucess depends on bringing different strengths, ideas and abilities to meet different challenges. In a normal society, differences are valued.
I had much compassion for my ex husband who is an Aspie. He lied a lot to appease then not follow through. He would manipulate with his Asperger's to his advantage. He was complacent in his Stand of Asperger's and down right emotionally lazy and blamed everything on Asperger's. Everyone needs to be responsible for themselves. Asperger's doesn't dismiss one from needing to be a person of character and integrity. Now Autistic or mental illness are a different beast.
Good documentary. The one thing I would say that irritates me as someone who also has a mental/learning disability is that Chris can recognize how his syndrome can affect him but not how it effects others around him. Instead of trying to gain skills to cope and try to gain an understanding of why someone may react to him in specific ways he just states that the world should change to accommodate him. I do agree people need to be more sympathetic and understand of people with mental disabilities, but compassion and adaptableness needs to come from both sides to work, even just a bit.
@Bonjour You can see throughout the documentary how he shows little to no regard for other's around him. (ex. his girlfriend who obviously states she wants more, but he is not willing to compromise or being isolated from others in school because he says rude things and is unwilling to listen and corporate with them.) He may say he is trying to fit in but you can clearly see through his actions that in reality he is not trying. Plus didn't you just make a judgment on my one statement rather than asking how I may have come to that conclusion?
@Rebecca S From my perspective, your observations and opinions are accurate and I agree with them. In my twenty years of marriage to an autistic woman, it's been a challenge to learn, accept and live with the characteristics of Aspergers syndrome. At no time have I ever attempted to "change" her or "wish" she would change. I have learned how to have even more compassion, understanding and love for her and people in general because of this experience. HOWEVER, I am often sad and a lot of times lonely because as I have compassion and understanding for her, she has none for me so it is a one-way road in our relationship because she is not able to express or show love in a way that I can feel, which is a part of her Asperbergers characteristics. I specifically responded to you because I noticed there were some individuals that appear to have limited reasoning abilities commenting to your observations and I wanted you to know that there are also people out here who understand and agree with your thoughts! You have a great day!
@Bonjour I saw your reply. Thank you. I apologize as we will not be able to communicate cordially and civil. I choose my words carefully and I do not tear people down. Again, thank you for your reply and Good Day!
No offense, but you sound like a selfish ableist person who is o oy thinking of yourself. If you have autism, you don’t know. Just like I don’t know what it’s like to have an intellectual disability. It’s like if I said you should try harder not to have an intellectual disability to make those of us who don’t feel more comfortable around you even though it’s you who struggles and has to do all the work. Do you see how ableist that sounds /is?
Exactly. Because they are intelligent they have a capability of compromise. My ex husband was complacent about his Aspie diagnosis. He didn't care about others'needs. He manipulated both me and his son to get his way. Still does. I refuse any communication with him in any form because he is abusive in his complacency.
Isn't this american school just giving autistic children big box of masking tools to be "normal" and just crash and burn later becouse they can't do that for the rest of their lives????????? I cried many times watching this doc. so sad the cure...........................
Exactly why I didn't end up graduating and got my GED and later excelled in a college course that was based on my special interest. Also why my 17 year old daughter has been battling depression and social anxiety... the masking burnout is brutal.
@thequattro20v I know, it's sad. There are some schools that are neurodivergent friendly but at a high cost. A friend of mine went on a tour of a school for her daughter, which implements art therapy and allows children to use balance balls while doing school work, or music while learning and testing, etc... but it's an expensive private school costing thousands monthly in tuition. The success of many ND children is in the hands of societies education system. Every school should have ND programs for children who learn and process differently.
Not everybody has the means to live in a comfortable environment. And notbevery parent can support their children. And the many forms of autisme make that difficult. I have autisme i have a good wife, i drive a car and can work. Its not easy but doable. I try to find ways to improve my life. I try to sort of analyse my own behavior and improve. Think we should record interactions with other people and use it review and learn from it. And other people can also learn from us. We can broaden our communiation skills. We autistic people have a broader spectrum of radio waves that we receive and process.
Yes the rare condition that has many many side effects is a super power I’m sorry mommy lied to you very few people in an already pretty rare condition are intelligent enough for it to be a power
@@supermoon1430 yes but nurture those few instead of oppressing them and then we have the next stage of human brain development. Your comment shows the same lack of understanding about us nuroatypical s as you normies complain about us having for you guys
If not like me, can't be autistic. It is just that autistics are not just a different 'look' of uniformity that allistics imagine. I have seen the Asperger seal of approval autistics have very different but not 'less severe' and better/greater quality/value. Actually i imagine my brother with Dr A approved autism to suffer far more but mental/emotional and masked. My imbecile tag kept me out of public education, yet i was insulated from social torture. I don't mind hearing his view but disagree with the crush autistic blobs to compinents and rebuild he thinks my sort require.
I'm certain that schools which focus on ABA are a result of parents being exhausted dealing the the behavior of their children. It's not an out for the children, but for them.
I'm not sure it's ok to try to rewire your brain because different behavior ( I don't mean bad behavior) doesn't fit society's rules and sometimes makes others feel uncomfortable.
I identify with this guy. I have schizoid personality. Everyone hates me because I never laugh and hate small talk.
I've also concluded it's best to avoid people entirely. I wish more people were like me. When I meet other withdrawn people I feel more comfortable because they don't expect anything from me. So I actually open up and become more talkative around them. Normal outgoing people just make me wanna hide.
snickle snockle: HEllo, you describe a part of yourself well, and I feel with you there. Have you ever started reading good psychology-therapy books to learn, better understand and maybe get ideas towards solution of problems, towards change and healing? It took me decades to understand that everyone wasn't going to be given help, that they couldn't help some, or wouldn't provide the right competent people, or that it was not in my fate so far. That I had to take my also physical health into my own hands. You sound to have normal psychical problems too. That comes naturally in a (sensitive intelligent) human being. Of course one is ging to get tenseand inhibited when noticing ppl don't seem to like one. Isolation is not good for the soul, evcen if we need alonetime.
HAve you got a good habit of daily outdoor daylight/sunshine movement? I shouldn't think so, and it would help improvethings. So would really good quality helath food 3 regular, early times a day.m
You may also have some nutritional imbalances and toxic metals, as do everybody today and which is influenced by lifestyle, mood, overall health. Robust ppl can handle the toxins better than sensitive, traumatized ones. Natural detoxification protocol is good. This may be borin glyt written, but I am too tired and sicj´k in mistreatment and decades of severe sleep deprivation to engage and put a lot of pedagogic effort, as I need paid for my work, and help to have the abuse stop, get health care, trauma therapy, my homwe back and all I ned to get my life finally. But I Ask you to not give up and get active researching that schizoid p and help ypurself.
THERE ARE 12 STEP PROGRAMS FOR SELF-HELP IN WELL-STRUCTURED GROUPS, MAYBE YOU'D FIND A program and a GROUP of your liking, to settle down, calm, and start changing. I like AA' andOA's Big Book the best and only go to such meetings nowadays. you can seek and ask for a sponsor to help through the 12 step-work, because alone it's difficult for most.
It takes some courage and inner strength , and willingness to get a better life. There are phone/ zoom and online meetings, which may be an alternative. Although when one it soo alonely, I think seeing ppl IRL is best. Even if one doesn't get all understood. Others have their pronblems, even after thaty have got help there. BEing human is complicated and changes.all the time.
Oh, and the cell phone / gadgets are not good for us, so keep a normal real telephone ,or switch it off and kep it fara way from the body when sleeping at least, will ease symptoms.
Seek naturopathic treatment if you cana fford it, and nutritiontherapoy. One can work from different angles.
You can get better. Self-love is also good to practise, that will help in others loving one.
TAke care of yourself, is a key. How old are you?
I’m with you alllll the way. ♥
@@Teenywing me too
@JaneSmith-nothingness They're just too hyper for me and it's annoying, so they don't know what to do. So they just get passive aggressive or really jumpy or avoidant. It's not good for anyone involved. I wonder what my purpose in life is.
Sorry those people hated you they were uneducated and it's a reflection of them being a horrible human to another human being they didn't understand. I'm Autistic and people didn't like me either I feel great by myself but I have a husband thankfully He's Autistic too so it works we don't like small talk I cringe at crowds and new people so I get it my family thought I was antisocial when I was young. Just know you are who you are unapologetic and those who are meant for you in your life will not judge you but know that you're an awesome human and accept you as you are. Keep your head high and I'm a Christian of nobody told you Jesus Christ loves you and your accepted. Praying for you 🙏🏼peace and blessings
This program is so reassuring, for me as an autistic adult. Knowing i am not the only one
Me2
We are not alone -
You have lots of company in spirit if not physically
That was cool how he started focusing on the bird calls and knew each one. What a wonderful man he is. Godspeed sir!
“It’s got to be about what you CAN do.” I haven’t heard anyone else say this in almost 20 years.
My son is now 22. When he was 4 years old his teachers from his nursery school and then public school kept pointing out what he “couldn’t do.” “He doesn’t like dress up….he didn’t make today’s craft….he didn’t stay in the circle for story time….” I didn’t understand why I kept hearing these statements. I would just think, well , of course he didn’t like story time because he didn’t like the story, he never liked dress up, he never liked crafts. This was all normal to me. It didn’t bother me so why is it bothering you? I would just think, he simply doesn’t like those things. At the same time, he would do puzzles all day, he would sit for story time if it was a concept book(alphabet, numbers, shapes, etc.). He didn’t like crafts(he didn’t like the texture of anything sticky like glue or paint), but give him a marker and he would draw the planets of the solar system or draw a map for a treasure hunt(at age 4). He wouldn’t sit for the math lesson because the lesson was about sticking black dots on a paper lady bug(a lesson about counting to 5), meanwhile he had been reading number books at home that went up to 1000. Every day I got the daily report of what he “didn’t” or “wouldn’t” do.
We finally got him assessed(he was 5 years old) because every teacher then suggested we should, so we did. At the end of the hour long assessment the doctor looked at my husband and I and said, “Why can’t everyone see what’s right here instead of what’s wrong?” I wanted to hug him. I felt like I was saying that same statement for years and I finally heard someone else say it. It was heart warming to hear you say the same thing near the end of this video. Thank you❤️
My son is now in his final year of computer engineering at university 😊
Thank you for sharing!!
I'm so happy for your son that he had you and your husband who loved him as he is, even in the face of the pressure from incompetent school staff; and so glad for all of you that you met that doctor. I've worked in the school system, and hearing children--usually boys--discussed as though they weren't even there, and the remarks like, on a day when the child had had his "medication," "oh he's had such a good day" or the reverse when he hadn't had his "medication". Imagine being that child, and feeling the medication coursing through your veins, feeling it messing with you, and then hearing the adults saying that it's such a good thing: yeah, for them. What a rip-off. God bless parents like you@michaelgreen8715
He is an extremely likeable person and no matter how different he felt or feels, I understand him very well
It's not crazy, it's not mad. It's another way to be a human and it has it's rewards.
My form of Aspergers is also characterized by heightened senses and sensory overload. When I was in high school, I worked at NIH, and tested my vision on a spectrophotometer. I could see way into the ultraviolet spectrum. It just looked like dark violet, but very visible. I also tested my hearing, which went way further than normal hearing in the high pitches. Once a dentist tried to use an "ultrasonic" drill on me, and I threw it across the room because it was so loud and piercing to my ears. The effect of all this sensory overload was extreme withdrawal. I also had obsessive interests, which I pursued doggedly. I asked to play classical piano at four, got into chemistry, astronomy, gardening, and rock collecting. I also tasted everything--not disgusting things like tadpoles, but every plant I would bite to see what it tasted like. I rarely talked about these interests, because outside of classical music, no one else seemed to share my interests. I was living pretty much in my own world. For years I had a vanity license plate that read KLAATU--which was the name of the alien in The Day the Earth Stood Still. I certainly didn't know I was autistic at that time, but most definitely felt like an alien. I had (and have) a lot of social problems. I always wondered why everyone else seemed to know how to behave, or what was considered important or appropriate. It's like they took classes that I somehow missed. That is a recurrent nightmare I've had my whole life--missing important classes. I gave up on being socially "normal" pretty early. I realized that I would just have to wing it and improvise, then take the consequences. Otherwise, I was just going to remain totally withdrawn.
I have this dream, too. Over and over again. That I'm late for school or miss the whole day. Most of the time because I can't find my car or miss the train. But it doesn't feel like a nightmare.
Well said. Ditto.
I also have this exact same dream about missing class, or showing up but I don't have my homework with me. I also have chronic sleep paralysis, which I didn't know wasn't normal until recently. I can hear very low tones, especially in music that other people can't. I have to leave shops sometimes because of they play certain music it seems to just get louder and louder until it gives me an anxiety attack.
I had a "lost my car" dream a few months ago. In the dream I was thinking, "Well, maybe I'll drive back to that parking lot. Maybe I left it there. Wait a second!! I'm driving. I'm IN my car."@@anne.1205
Your experience aligns with mine. It's good to know ow other people are experiencing the world in a similar way.
I had my hearing tested and could hear in to the ultrasonic range. I could also differentiate shades of color in the 99th percentile of people. No ultraviolet as far as I know.
I can also since childhood hear specific vehicles and be able to identify them by sound alone, as long as the exhaust isn't fully muffled. I can also identify vehicles from a brief glance oh headlights only. I never trained or studied this, just picked it up.
That bird was his connection with this mad world. I am a " normal" woman but I understand/ feel like him in so many ways
So nice to see he is still smitten ❤. After 10 years.. love his quirks. I'm adhd, ptsd,cptsd diagnosis at 60 years..absolutely no friends for 23 years now.try to keep busy with home, and raising my grand child. ❤❤
I just recently feel like I have real friends since college at nearly 40 . Seek out other neurodivergent people. I get along with those with ADHD.
I have been a mom for 22 years.I have known that I had an Aspergers daughter for only a few months. Yes .life with my girl can be very challenging, but there are such amazing aspects too, such as her intelligence, how she thrives on challenges, and her deep connection with animals,especially dogs. She once had lunch with a hawk that stayed with her for several minutes
Normal is a deception. Weird is a gift.
Love this. I am a mum of an asperger and can testify yo the amazing joys as well as the frustrations
"an Aspergers daughter", "an asperger", ... wow
Hi there, I wish I had a mom like you. I really like what you said, "normal is a deception. Weird is a gift." May I use this? Thank you.
There does seem to be a strong connection to animals and nature for many, though not all. Maybe it’s the more sensitive sensory perception and intuition.
I was diagnosed at 64 life has been a struggle
I could almost be this guy. The relating to animals, nature, etc. I used to catch tadpoles and smell and taste toads (eek! they're poisonous ). I also didn't have a great need for social contact. Life was not easy because of autism, though. Now I'm retired and often spend hours in my studio drawing. Autism is a blessing and a curse all in one.
Yes indeed 🎉🎉🎉
Same here.
But it’s only a curse when you apply the need for social interaction, is that correct? Why can’t we just let you be in your studio as much as you want? Why can’t it be up to you?
@@barbstotter7288no self imposed limits
@@barbstotter7288 anything is a curse if people cannot achieve financial independence. The majority of people on the autism spectrum are not employed.
If my autism was ever "cured" I would cease to be myself.
True brother
Best doc I have seen in a long long time. Thank you so much for putting this together! My son has aspergers and I just adore him and so appreciate the way he has touched my life and so many others. His hunger and thirst for things that most people could care less about, intrigue me thanks to his interests.
Great video 👏👏👏I thank you so much for the video and I send my best wishes to Chris Packham. There were moments of me pouring tears watching his experience in adolescence that I felt empathy and could remember my own life story.
"Imagine all those people trapped in their room, because they're isolated by this condition. They haven't been able to sculpt opportunities, manage themselves in a way that allows them to fulfill their lives. That's like a ghastly sentence set in a vile fairy tale. No one should be imprisoned by this condition. They should be allowed to exhault in those aspects of the condition which empower them. That difference is such a valuable tool and enormous asset; to be able to see things, understand things, process things and remember things in a way most people can't do, has to be seen as a gift, not something that you're badged with and it's about what you can't do. It's gotta be about what you can do."
In spite of all the difficulties having As ethers, this man has lived a very good life! It makes me happy to see this.
I appreciated this much. What a lovely exposition. I wish I could meet him in person. As a recently, (late) diagnosed person with autism at 35, I'm just now realizing how much I enjoy other neurodivergent people. I immediately feel comfortable.
Thank you for telling us who you are in this video. I feel enriched!
You should get a parrot, a Macaw for free flight! It's everything you loved about that first bird you had. And they live for far longer than 6 months, try anywhere from 30 years to 70 years or even longer sometimes. That's why I got my macaw, I got tired of feeling like I was constantly grieving the loss of a pet. I wish I knew a way to make sure that you see my comment but that'll never happen. Hopefully someday someone tells you about free flight and it clicks in your head like it did in mine. My bird saved my life.
We are Frightenly similar in so many ways; except i am an female American; never ate, but caught many tadpoles, never listened to Punk Rock nor owned any Kestrol bird....but owned Two Large Moluccan Parrots..
but I have recently spent over 17 years exploring & living in the Mountains and Forests OFFGRID in the middle of nowhere and I am a BioChemist & was a 4.0 student in college but am very much also a Scientist & Naturalist.
He even reminds me of 'The Professor' on the old Gillians Island TV programme. Resembles him too (uncanny resemblence)
I too, am a Marathon Traveller & Retiree; Explorer & Researcher in PNW (Pacific NorthWest) in USA.
SelfDiagnosed ASD Aspbergers Spectrum.
In total agreement with his resistance to that cubic milimeter brain electrode zapper;
"A Little Dab will do You eh-"? From that horror movie with Jack Nicholsen.
This mans personality is nearly identical otherwise with mine own, except i cant stand his musical tastes; i am therefore Classically Trained since childhood and have a completely different style of music preferred.
When he started off the dialogue in the programme saying
"My Brain is different than yours" ..
...Nope.
Im a Neuro-Divergent also; "hardwired differently" and see the surrounding world very differently than regular NEURO-TYPICAL humanity on Planet Earth.
I have learnt to "MASK" THE ASPBERGERS
Autism
symptoms in order "TO SURVIVE" in the normal world and APPEAR "NORMAL" LIKE EVERYONE ELSE..
I have High functioning ASPBERGERS
Im a reclusive person and a loner (like that man) and have spent nearly 18 years living as a hermit in the Wilderness & Mountains and Forests of The Great Pacific Northwest;
Experimenting with OFFGRID LIFESTYLES & having very little to no contact with anyone at all, unless it was to obtain food supplies and gasoline or to change vehicles
...i do love animals and birds too, i just do not have any at the moment.
God Bless Him;
I see he is able to function well enough in society to become a TV Personality and have his own TV SHOW. 😃🙂
Thats how he affords his amazing dwellings!!
I too, would have a house in the forest in the middle of NoWhere, if i had my druthers ...my pension unfortunately, does not afford me such luxuries.
Well, perhaps something else will come up that can afford that lifestyle one day. (Hope springs eternal...as they say)
Enjoyed very much this Documentary;
Thankyou Very Much Indeed ..
GOD BLESS YOU
PS: I scanned some other comments
& seems there are enough Others here who are so identical; we need to form our own CLUB, except no one would ever attend the meetings!! 21:37
But you would go!❤
Blessings to you, have you found any evidence that sasquatch is real? Sorry for my question my brain is constantly searching for answers.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This documentary was so insightful
I have five kids. Two have been diagnosed with Asperger's, two are "normal", and one actually has an appointment tomorrow to get tested.
I'm fairly certain they get it from me, but I am 40 and have never been tested. I would never want a cure for any of them.
Being social isn't really as important as people make it out to be. I wouldn't want to be all concerned about people I don't know, and what they're doing. It sounds exhausting.
Indeed it must be
I live with a high functioning Aspie. Life with him has been challenging!
1:36 This ‘cascading memory’ he’s talking about - I do that. That’s how I invent things, by joining together stuff that lines up in my head intuitively but are otherwise unrelated to anyone else. Like reading scientific studies proving five various things and then tying it together to form a new invention that’s never been done using those new principles someone else already proved in a lab.
So I think this is a feature many of us have and is probably the defining feature of many (if not most) great inventors and scientists. I imagine many of them would qualify as autistic in today’s world.
So perhaps one career option for many young autistic people might be inventing new ways of doing things in their areas of interest. That’s what kept my alive through childhood, drawing schematic diagrams of the stuff I was into as a kid (microphones and recording studios).
If this is perhaps a common feature of ASD, then perhaps we’re all inventors whether we know it or not?
My son foes the same thing. His mind goes way way out connecting dots to things others just can't see, and lands at an amazing outcome.
Artists, inventers and tradesman.
Chris, what a beautiful soul you are.
You actually have huge empathy…you just internalise it.
In so many ways you are like a mirror of my own personality…I grew up on a huge farm in the middle of nowhere and am like an animal and plant whispererer (I feel what’s happening with them and see tiny subtleties of change within them)…it’s like deeply understanding them. Older and female and happy living on my own…people often overwhelming.
Thank you for giving me the gift of seeing and understanding a big chunk of who I am…it’s amazing when I’m almost 60.
Please don’t let anyone try to change who you are…just be yourself.
I don’t know about anyone else but the other thing about me is I am overly honest…just can’t tell lies…is this a part of Asperger’s?
Yes, the inability to lie is a "symptom" of Aspergers. I have the same problem, although I don't really see it as a problem in myself. However, that means that I rarely can tell when others are lying to me, which has caused a lot of issues. In general, aspies like order and rigidity. Lying throws that out the window because now you have to remember the lie and who you told it to and what other people know. Total chaos.
I was just telling my brother yesterday how I made a teacher hate me in high school, just because I was honest. I had no clue that I was being rude, and no intention of being rude or even critical. I just answered a question honestly. I think this trait can make people uncomfortable, especially if they are insecure. Positively, my teachers in grad school used to ask me to critique their writing, because they knew I would give them honest feedback. Being direct is a way of keeping things simple, because even if there are social repercussions, at least I know who I am in the midst of all this confusion. @@ldebusk-xu4br
Yes lies and the notion how often others lie and a never ending ability to recognize that and utter disappointment when I realized I’ve been fooled yet again
Beautiful and spot-on depiction of Asperger's, at least the way I personally experience it.
brilliant documentary. Very moving about Kestrel, reminded me of that book, Kes.
I'm Autistic/ADHD and any talk of cure I get angry but willing to watch till end to see what happens.
Made up illness
I'm a autistic also and I agree 💯 with you👍🏼
Best documentary on that topic i have ever seen. 🙏
To hear his description of the beautiful and perfect experiences he has had..I envy this. And I believe this is what heaven will be like.
I am high functioning, but have a relative that is not. I did not find out about myself until I was Mr.Parkham's age. Despite having an IQ over 145, I have struggled in many aspects of life, and never understood why. I went through the typical school and college system, and excelled in some areas, and struggled in others. My relative has a much more severe form, and is nonverbal. He was diagnosed as an infant and has been in a special school year round for his entire life. His symptoms have not improved in any appreciable way. He requires round the clock care, and I certainly hope some "cure" will come along one day that will give him a better quality of life than he has today. I fear for what his future will be.
I have a friend whose son was nonverbal, etc. They tried all kinds of things, but what worked was taking him off of all major food allergens: gluten, corn, milk, soy, nuts. The change was mind-boggling, from screaming, fixating and being nonverbal he became totally articulate within about one year. I saw it myself. One year he was like a crazed animal, and the next playing quietly with toys and speaking in full sentences. He was mainstreamed in school, but still has occasional emotional meltdowns. I think the autistic community over-focuses on differences in the brain, when a lot of the problem is in the gut--leaky gut particularly. I know a woman who practices a form of acupuncture called NAET. It aims at eliminating food allergies, and does actually work, though not entirely reliably. I asked her if she had ever treated anyone with autism, and she just lit up. She helped this autistic little girl tremendously with her treatments. Autistic people almost all have digestive problems, but this never seems to get any attention.
@@steveneardley7541Yes, gut inflammation and leaky gut are a big part of the problem. Inflammation in the gut and inflammation in the brain go hand in hand. And guess what the biggest cause of inflammation in gut and brain in young children is..
Chris Packham, you are an inspiration to any human being, anywhere in the world. I had no insight into autism or Asperger's syndrome but now I feel like I see the world for the very first time and appreciate it for the many different perspectives and ways to live life to the fullest!! Thank you for making this wonderful documentary!!
Pretty decent documentary. Explored multiple opinions of autism!!
I'm autistic myself. Female.
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Same here ! hello !🥰👋🏽
His stepdaughter livens him up like no one else.
I noticed that too, it was awesome to see. Love it!
My husband and I (and our 4 kids) are autistic and we struggle to understand each other because girls and boys are still so different even though they are both Autistic
That is a very good point. I believe I am autistic and I suspect my mom is too but we are very different. When I talked to her about it she confessed that she didn't want to know. For me, exploring autisim has been enlightening and freeing. I am no longer broken. I am normal but different.
Same my husband and I are Autistic too. We have the same situation as you we struggle to understand each other. We love one another and would not trade being autistic for anything we are unashamed 👍🏼💛
I can relate to this man so much.
Der Tag an dem wir die Einzigartigkeit eines jeden Menschen akzeptieren und als Quelle einer miteinander funktionierenden Welt betrachten muß man nicht mehr darüber nachdenken ob Autismus eine Heilung braucht.
We all struggle with loosing those we love. Autistic people feel things deeper then most and we struggle with understanding death.
Its kind of weird ? I struggle with everything as an aspie, except death
@anntunaley9974 it's because this world isn't meant for us, they make us out to be damaged but many believe we are the next stage in evolution and just need the right understanding and environment and we fly. Our minds are amazing I just have to hope my children grow up in a more accepting environment
Indeed🎉
Thank you for this!
Love this guy he has autism spot on ❤️ autism people are amazing when in the right environment
The goal for children with Autism should be to thrive not to be normal. Lene from Denmark
I can relate on the social part (don't want friends, parties), didn't even complete my education cause of that. (school = sicializing) Went to several therapist but they said I was just anxious and 'bubbly' as a personality and no way I could be autistic.
Not if you go to adult college or university you can get through unnotoced if you want to. It is much harder in working life to do this. When I whent to school I enjoyed the math and science, but not the social side. I used skive off when there was sport to do my studies. School was a wast of time.
Yeah, I'm kinda in the same boat. My parents moved around a lot when I was little so I'd change schools almost every year, any friends I made in school only lasted that one year and then just disappeared. Growing up I only had two real friends, then I moved to a different town far away from my hometown and they disappeared too, luckily in my final year of school I befriended two of my classmates who refused to just "disappear" from my life like everyone else did. I know I'm not good at keeping in contact with people, it's very easy for me to accidentally "ghost" people because I'm just not very social at all. Only lasted like three months in my country's equivalent of high school (I'm Finnish) before dropping out. I hate group projects.
I have tried to collaborate several times on big projects. They have all been total disasters, not so much because of the social side of it. It's just that the projects were never completed, and barely even got off the ground. Now I know to avoid these things. I seem to have a naive faith that I can work collaboratively with others. I blame them more than me when it doesn't work, but it hardly matters who's to blame. It's just a losing proposition.@@Sazandora123
@@swedishdissident3406indeed
Thanks for sharing
I am a special needs teacher and a parent of a child on the spectrum. While watching the ABA approach is uncomfortable to watch and a challenging place to work, I wonder if the motivation is less about stamping out Autism and more about trying to provide as much independence and opportunity for the child to function as an adult as possible. It's all well and good to have your own personal private place to live if you can afford it. If you can't function in a workplace environment then your options as an adult are far more limited. Life-long care for your child is expensive and a frightening thing to think about as a parent.
i completely agree that parents need to provide help to create self sustaining adults if possible. the problem is that neurodivergent adults who had went through ABA find it both unhelpful and incredibly abusive and suffer from trauma wounds.
I'm reading a book named autism breakthrough it's Raun Kaufman's book he talks about his experience with autism and about the son rise approach , it's very interesting a very respectful program, I advise all parents to take a look to the son rise program.
Yes. I have two children on the spectrum. One high functioning and undx and one more academically challenged and dx. And one with adhd and other health issues (EDS) undx. I worry for the future of all of them being able to support themselves financially when their father and I can’t. Almost resigned to them never leaving home.
He's tall, has high IQ and is well connected. This is not the typical experience of an ASD child/adult. He can compensate, most others can't.
It's because of the difference between autism and Asperger's, which has many many overlaps, but also differences
I need this guy to buy me a cabin in the woods, then I'll be set.
True, but it is nice to see there are people like him. As well on the spectrum, I identify more with what he experiences and the way he thinks than many other documentaries where people with ASD are shown.
Right but people like me who have an autistic child who (so far but it's still too soon to tell) seems like he will be able to make it through life on his own enjoy seeing autistic people just living life independently and doing things like everyone else. It's a constant fear in my mind of "what if?" The unknown for what the future holds for my son is stressful.
What's your point? His experience isn't valid because somebody else has it worse? You do know by that logic the other person's experience you're sticking up for is invalidated too, right? If you'll point me to them I'll gladly let them know what a gift the challenge of their disability is to you. As someone who proxied my mother's Munchausen it is indeed one etiology of autism. The genome's been sequenced for over a dozen years. Behavioral heritability within families looks "genetic". Definitely makes sense the person pathetic enough to do what you're doing would have a hollow ego in need of perpetual inflation.
Asperger's diagnosis has been changed and is now included with Autism Soectrun Disorder.
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Yes. The DSM only used the term Asperger's Syndrome for people diagnosed from 1992 - 2013. Now they call it a High Functioning Autistic Disorder.
I am the same as this man. I was James Cameron’s dolly grip on the avatar sequel.
Normal people just need to learn to accept other people's differences. And I suppose it goes both ways?
I'm a 57 year old with Asperger's. It is for sure a blessing and a curse, but it's been nice to know why I'm so "unique" as i was just recently diagnosed.💖🌻
There is surprisingly little in the way of Medical/Scientific data . it's more of a Biography than documentary
which is not at all bad However the thumbnail showed brain scans , which is what I came here for .I agree it succeeds as the gift of understanding . Many will be able to relate to folks " on the spectrum" and that's Gold .
I doubt any scientist could explain it well enough. They would still be speculating, because it's not something neurological people properly understand. You need someone who is an asperger to explain how it is for them to get it to the rest of the world.
That should read neurotypical, auto correct stepped in without my noticing.
Neurotypical people have no clue how mentally and physically exhausting it is to try and act “normal” all day.
But, I believe we aren’t neurodivergent, we are “neurospecialized”. Our brains have abilities that are necessary and useful that normies have trouble doing.
And they make no effort in our direction which seems unfair to me. We are expected to accommodate our own disadvantage. It’s like asking a blind person to make their own braille.
Brilliant. Love it. Thank you!!!!
Seeing him go into the school as an autistic person - this is exactly what all schools should do before ever implementing therapies or even offering school for those with autism. The environment is not conducive to the neurodivergent brain. The layouts, the colors, the patterns, the noise.
Sorry just on the topic of “curing” autism? I think you would have to look at trying to change our very chemical molecular structure quite dramatically,especially as you get further along the spectrum.
I practice earthing, I love doing the washing because of the static electricity.
It’s fascinating.😳😳💖💖💖
As an ABA practitioner in the US, I certainly do not try to stamp out autistic traits. My focus is on giving children tools that empower them to navigate the world and their communities. I teach children how to recognize their needs and I tech them pro-social ways of getting those needs met. I also teach families to recognize the child’s legitimate needs and ways to meet those needs in the context of their families and communities. Activism by the autism community has been very instructive to those practicing ABA.
Great documentary
Chris’s childhood almost exactly mirrors my own and our adult lives aren’t dissimilar. I’m confused.
Same here, I even grew up in the same area and was a punk rocker where I finally fitted in with a crowd of people, I probably knew him then!
Bless this guy im an isolator 'in the woods' but im actually in the middle of suburbia in my own little world
They excluded you because you were better than them and they wanted you to feel bad about it.
That's your ego talking.
@@ZFern9390 not really. I do have some very serious flaws, however catering to a hierarchy for hierarchies sake is not one of them. Constantly catering to social norms to where no one has any room to breathe is one of them
In Australia, spergies I not a syndrome, it's a part of the autism spectrum and is now know as ASD as a collective!
The gold gnome made me laugh. That's the same kind of thing I would want in my space.
Immense gratitude for disclosing your case. It will help scores of others not to regard their autism as dark secreet. Tsis video is a revelation!!!
Normal is overrated
Neurotypical, not ‘normal’
@@StanCat4 fair enough. These people are only about 40 percent of the population. They are just better organized than the rest of us and make all the rules and social edicts
I spent 10 years of my life being controlled, manipulated, and horribly abused by my ex husband. When I finally asked for a divorce, he just said OK, packed his bags, and left the next morning without saying goodbye. I found out a few years later that he had taken out a ton of loans in my name, ruined my credit, and left the country. I'm still fighting to get things straightened out. Now tell me how ALL Aspies are wonderful people.
Exactly! My recent ex husband is Asperger's and he ruined me. He is one of the most selfish people I've ever known and he is proud of it. Im 56 and not sure if I can bounce back from this. I used every drop of compassion in the marriage and now I'm an empty shell just like him. If I know or hear someone is Aspie, I run the other direction, at full speed.
@@ZFern9390 It takes a really long time to heal. Be gentle and forgiving of yourself, and take as long as it takes. Don't feel bad if you can't trust anyone right now. I'm 59, and the thought of dating again is enough to make me break out in hives. Instead, I'm working on being happy in my own company. I've accepted that if I never marry again, I'll be just fine. I have my dog to keep me company.
I am a nuroatypical with learning disabilities. It took me a long time to understand the truth is that if you stopped my nuroatypical thinking and my learning disabilities you would also get rid of my ideas and creativity and musical talent spacial skills and tactile ability. So no I no longer want to be normal or cured. I will deal with my shortcomings on my own. The other aspect of this is the normies aren't perfect either. We have gifts they are lacking. The normies are only considered better because they are the majority. More is not nessisaraly better it is just more. They have no empathy for any of us at all and that is not seen as a handicap. But when we can empathize with each other and animals but we just don't get the normies how is that a lack of empathy? It is just a different kind of awareness, different is not wrong it is just different.
Well said. I also think neurotypicals have LESS empathy from what I observe and how they treat me and each other.
I wonder whether we are 'disabled' or are the next step in human evolution? I can see either being correct, but with there being more and more of us being noticed, I tend to see it as a step forward in humans. As others said, we get along with each other, it's the 'normal' ones who give us grief.
@@monicaluketich6913 definitely
Well said ! I've always
considered it to be a gift !
I cherish solitude bc it's my most productive time.
Art, music, don't require
interacting with others.
Oh so true!
I don't understand why you would want to take away any aspects of who you are. Of course now I'm over 60, and have gotten used to being this way. There's that one film where the main schizophrenic character has imagined people around. With time, he gets used to them, and ignores them. Greta Thunberg has Aspergers and sees that as a gift. Overwhelmingly I see Greta's abilities as a gift to humanity. Chris too. When Chris was asked which species he disliked, I was sure he was going to say humans. And he did. And I agree with that outlook. Myers Briggs classifies me as INFP, which is the least likely category especially for males like myself. Don't do it Chris ... you are like totally normal shaman material.
I wouldn't call my oversensitive ears, my equally overloaded sense of touch, my crippling social anxiety or constantly fluctuating interests a "gift". I can never study anything because my interest in it just won't last very long, I might want to pursue one career path for maybe a week or so, and then suddenly begin to lose all interest in it. I can't work because I cannot talk to strangers face-to-face at all, I tend to lock up in fear because I'm constantly anxious over what I'm supposed to say to not look like a total fool. If there was a cure to autism/Aspergers that was guaranteed to work, I would take it. I want to be a part of the society but as I am now, I simply cannot because I can't get over all these issues Aspergers gave me. It sure as heck is *not* a gift.
I was feeling very resentful of the first part of this program, but the wrap up was good.
NASA has an in-house joke.
'NASA is a private employment agency for people with Autism'
I wonder why you and I feel the same about birds. I live with a handicapped Americana.
❤❤❤ it is a deep connection to animals
I have a learning disability and bad anxiety
I’ve always loved Chris and have been fascinated by his mind for 30+ years. What an incredible man, he’s so brave talking about his condition because people immediately think of you as, almost, inferior, when in fact, I truly believe ASD people have a more evolved brain.
My trans daughter has Asperger syndrome and I can fully empathise with Chris’ struggles. Asperger’s is so complex, a mix of so many spectrum diagnosis’. I too believe a ‘cure’ is a crime. Find what makes that individual tick, allow them to study that thing to their heart’s content and they’ll find a way to make a living from that. Asperger’s people are probably the most fascinating human beings on this planet in my opinion.
What an interesting man
Do you also have OCD ? My son was diagnosed with OCD / ADHD and Tourette’s and at 17 and now addicted to Cannibis he’s been diagnosed on ASD spectrum
Cannabis can be useful but when used correctly. I have always self medicated but now...60yrs..am on medical here in australia. It has improved my relationship with my medicine along with regular therapist and exercise outdoors
Came here for the thumbnail, couldn't find it. I'm so sorry.
Why on earth would you want to deaden your senses if you can handle them?
You can't possibly understand how loud and overwhelming ( noise and smells) the world is if you have sensory overload sensitivity. It's a constant juggling act of avoiding the overload. People talk loudly, laugh loudly , put on loud perfumes and hand cream, strong laundry detergents and dryer sheets, on and on and on. It's always surrounding us and it feels so clostrophobic! It makes me hate hate being around people. People just talk talk about anything that flies out of their mouth incessantly. People talk on and on on their cell phones in public even with their speaker phones on 😫
@@ZFern9390 I know and hate it too, I mean the good stuff like colours, details that are beautiful and understanding animals better.
I’m sorry but if he is happy without fitting into society why is he trying to change? He is beautiful the way he is!!!
I think this system is crazy
Maybe just early intervention on speak and social skills would be helpful
Just love that video💕🙏💫✨⚡️
What really works is a highly nutrient anti-inflammatory diet. The brain/body needs the building blocks to repair/remodel. To level out and optimize.
I got diagnosed at 19.
Instead of changing individuals we need to change society.
Bingo! We have a winner!
It took you how long to figure that out? Didn't take me that long!
I looove animals.
I like the smell of animals, plants, rocks, clothes, perfumes essential oils. I would never want to taste any animal, like in this video. I love animals to much, so i do not want to hurt them, kill them. I avoid people as much as possible, but animals i welcome them. I enjoy intensely their presence and everuthing about them. So i rescue them and i am intensely heartbroken if i see a dead insect, animal. No one can comfort me.
Living in the middle of nowhere. A dream of mine. Nature. Animals in the wild. No human being. No human noice. Being yourself.
Never ever use this device tms on your brain. Please folks...accept your brain, eat healthy, live healthy.
My god. This device. Pure human stupidity.
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Normality is the sum of all differences. Live and let live. Open your minds, look with your hearts ❤
Can you really embrace anyone who was described as being "Sooo NORMAL!" Normal is really as bad a word as weird.
Weird is at least interesting.
Of course, the problem for any different people is bullying.
Bullying is the labeling of anyone or anything, people, new ideas, hair cut, clothes etc...as " different" and not as good, and therefore deserving of abuse.
Bullying is a sign of brain damage. People with neurological damage have scarring and lesions in the brain blocking the flow of electrical impulses. Electrical processing rises in response to new and different stimulators. The blockages from scarring act like the highway closed down to one lane during rush hour. Traffic backs up and cars start to honk horns.
The result in the backed up human brain is a feeling of irritability- and anger.
Why should they be made to process more!? The world has to change to please them!
They have no tolerance.
Until we identify bullies and bullying as a pathologic condition that needs treatment, those in their audience will be listening to them and giving them power over those who are different.
Group sucess depends on bringing different strengths, ideas and abilities to meet different challenges. In a normal society, differences are valued.
I had much compassion for my ex husband who is an Aspie. He lied a lot to appease then not follow through. He would manipulate with his Asperger's to his advantage. He was complacent in his Stand of Asperger's and down right emotionally lazy and blamed everything on Asperger's. Everyone needs to be responsible for themselves. Asperger's doesn't dismiss one from needing to be a person of character and integrity.
Now Autistic or mental illness are a different beast.
Einstein was only interested in one things .the universe ,and that was ok and not weird …
Yes, people often excuse it when we achieve something incredible but it shouldn’t have to take that extreme effort to be accepted
Yes indeed 😮
All they are doing is teaching masking at the expense of these children
Good documentary. The one thing I would say that irritates me as someone who also has a mental/learning disability is that Chris can recognize how his syndrome can affect him but not how it effects others around him. Instead of trying to gain skills to cope and try to gain an understanding of why someone may react to him in specific ways he just states that the world should change to accommodate him. I do agree people need to be more sympathetic and understand of people with mental disabilities, but compassion and adaptableness needs to come from both sides to work, even just a bit.
@Bonjour You can see throughout the documentary how he shows little to no regard for other's around him. (ex. his girlfriend who obviously states she wants more, but he is not willing to compromise or being isolated from others in school because he says rude things and is unwilling to listen and corporate with them.) He may say he is trying to fit in but you can clearly see through his actions that in reality he is not trying. Plus didn't you just make a judgment on my one statement rather than asking how I may have come to that conclusion?
@Rebecca S From my perspective, your observations and opinions are accurate and I agree with them. In my twenty years of marriage to an autistic woman, it's been a challenge to learn, accept and live with the characteristics of Aspergers syndrome. At no time have I ever attempted to "change" her or "wish" she would change. I have learned how to have even more compassion, understanding and love for her and people in general because of this experience. HOWEVER, I am often sad and a lot of times lonely because as I have compassion and understanding for her, she has none for me so it is a one-way road in our relationship because she is not able to express or show love in a way that I can feel, which is a part of her Asperbergers characteristics.
I specifically responded to you because I noticed there were some individuals that appear to have limited reasoning abilities commenting to your observations and I wanted you to know that there are also people out here who understand and agree with your thoughts! You have a great day!
@Bonjour I saw your reply. Thank you. I apologize as we will not be able to communicate cordially and civil. I choose my words carefully and I do not tear people down. Again, thank you for your reply and Good Day!
No offense, but you sound like a selfish ableist person who is o oy thinking of yourself. If you have autism, you don’t know. Just like I don’t know what it’s like to have an intellectual disability. It’s like if I said you should try harder not to have an intellectual disability to make those of us who don’t feel more comfortable around you even though it’s you who struggles and has to do all the work. Do you see how ableist that sounds /is?
Exactly. Because they are intelligent they have a capability of compromise. My ex husband was complacent about his Aspie diagnosis. He didn't care about others'needs. He manipulated both me and his son to get his way. Still does. I refuse any communication with him in any form because he is abusive in his complacency.
Isn't this american school just giving autistic children big box of masking tools to be "normal" and just crash and burn later becouse they can't do that for the rest of their lives????????? I cried many times watching this doc. so sad the cure...........................
Exactly why I didn't end up graduating and got my GED and later excelled in a college course that was based on my special interest. Also why my 17 year old daughter has been battling depression and social anxiety... the masking burnout is brutal.
@@ImThatSassyChic How can these kind of schools even exist😢
@thequattro20v I know, it's sad. There are some schools that are neurodivergent friendly but at a high cost. A friend of mine went on a tour of a school for her daughter, which implements art therapy and allows children to use balance balls while doing school work, or music while learning and testing, etc... but it's an expensive private school costing thousands monthly in tuition. The success of many ND children is in the hands of societies education system. Every school should have ND programs for children who learn and process differently.
I’m the opposite. I have the worst memory!
I hope Chis made it to her graduation ❤
So ABA teaches kids how to mask? Is that fair?
It looks like brainwashing. Not for the benefit of the kid but to make the people around him feel more comfortable. Like a lobotomy.
Not everybody has the means to live in a comfortable environment. And notbevery parent can support their children. And the many forms of autisme make that difficult. I have autisme i have a good wife, i drive a car and can work. Its not easy but doable. I try to find ways to improve my life. I try to sort of analyse my own behavior and improve. Think we should record interactions with other people and use it review and learn from it. And other people can also learn from us. We can broaden our communiation skills. We autistic people have a broader spectrum of radio waves that we receive and process.
Why cure a superpower?
Its easier to control people who all think the same way
Yes the rare condition that has many many side effects is a super power I’m sorry mommy lied to you very few people in an already pretty rare condition are intelligent enough for it to be a power
@@supermoon1430 yes but nurture those few instead of oppressing them and then we have the next stage of human brain development. Your comment shows the same lack of understanding about us nuroatypical s as you normies complain about us having for you guys
It's not a superpower.
OK..... 👍 SMH
If not like me, can't be autistic. It is just that autistics are not just a different 'look' of uniformity that allistics imagine. I have seen the Asperger seal of approval autistics have very different but not 'less severe' and better/greater quality/value. Actually i imagine my brother with Dr A approved autism to suffer far more but mental/emotional and masked. My imbecile tag kept me out of public education, yet i was insulated from social torture.
I don't mind hearing his view but disagree with the crush autistic blobs to compinents and rebuild he thinks my sort require.
I'm certain that schools which focus on ABA are a result of parents being exhausted dealing the the behavior of their children. It's not an out for the children, but for them.
I'm not sure it's ok to try to rewire your brain because different behavior ( I don't mean bad behavior) doesn't fit society's rules and sometimes makes others feel uncomfortable.
Poor bird & tadpoles
I think that Aspergers/autism is how humans are developing …I understand though that there’s a wide range of autism…
ABA is mean mean treatment and those who apply it, I mean therapist know it