I've been using Kreitler rollers with two flywheels and a headwind fan for about 2500 miles of indoor training and it hasn't done much visible damage to the tire, I agree and wouldn't recommend your good tires because it does give the tire a shiny almost aluminum looking glaze but it isn't wearing the tire like normal road riding has and certainly hasn't squared the tire. I use the wheels that came on the bike from new with the tires that came with them (Specialized Roubaix pro) then switch to my normal wheels and tires outside.
I'm not one for riding in cold and wet weather either but I do have an ergometer from vidaXL with Bluetooth to which I can join my tablet and over the internet pick videos from trips people have recorded .... the resistance on the flywheel is controled with an eletromagnet so when in the video it go's uphill the resistance increaces .... I've rode a couple of times around Central Park in New York :-) ... the ergometer cost around 200€ (about 180 Pounds) on Ebay
I have been riding rollers on the off season sporadically for years. Can Zwift or trainer road receive data from my bicycle computer, it is ANT+ and Bluetooth compatible? If that is the case then a cheap trainer would also work with the exception of not automatically adjusting the resistance to simulate hills, higher speeds, headwind, etc., wouldn't it?
What if someone prefers using a dedicated indoor bike, like a spinning bike... for the easy ability to adjust saddle/handlebar settings for multiple riders quickly? I see the Wattbike, TacxNeo may be what I'm looking for but they cost an arm and a leg. I was looking at the Schwinn IC4 which has built in Bluetooth and advertises as being compatible with Zwift. According to Rouvy, it wouldn't work with their software though. It's not a true smart bike from what I understand. Spinning bikes don't allow for the difficulty to be transmitted through to the virtual apps because of the manual adjustment correct? I'd like to use either Zwift, Rouvy or some other app to make riding indoors more fun but don't really care about true accuracy. I think I'd be happy with being able to just see movement of the bike on the screen from activity through the wheels. What's my best bet do you think? No great choices yet? The Schwinn IC4 has Bluetooth... I called the company, they couldn't even tell me what iteration of Bluetooth it has. Don't want to be confined to just Zwift as an option. Buy El cheapo spinning bike and wait for the prices of the TacX Neo type bikes to come down in price?
Mine are quite so old but love my rollers and when combined with my power pedals I get power for indoor and outdoor rides plus I get a bit more real feel when riding indoors.
you forgot wheel on smart trainers ;-) - something in between these 2 you are presenting. I.e. Wahoo SNAP that costs now 430 GBP. And btw Elite also has one like this. So no, the choice is not between 165 or 1000 GBP
This video is a joke, clearly Elite is their sponsor. There are cheaper direct drive trainer like the Wahoo Kickr Core or even an Elite Suito. Besides, who would even consider the Elite Drivo II is beyond me. The Tacx Flux or Wahoo Kickr are way more advanced at this point and nearly silent.
the elastagel fluid resistance unit on my elite crono turbo trainer has just completely broken.......I will NOT be purchasing an elite turbo trainer again.
Hi there, so sorry to hear that. Have you already contacted us? the email address is info@elite-it.com Our elastogel has been extremely reliable in terms of durability so it would be interesting to figure out what happened.
Elite Cycling yes I have had very recent frequent emails with elite and I told them my crono is outside warranty and I just want to buy the fluid resistance unit to fix the wall of noise mine is making. they won't sell me a unit and it's just been going round and round in circles, to say I'm disappointed with elite and their lack of assistance in this matter is an understatement, I mean I just want to buy a part from them, the guy I've been dealing with is Andreas. I contacted the UK distributor Madison and they were beyond useless.
when it comes to affordable trainers and expensive ones...isn't the main purpose just to pedal? as long as it has the necessary resistance any one of them should be fine, right? i ride my gravel bike to and from work-rain or shine so these tools are quite pointless in my opinion. just get the more affordable one..it might be louder or doesn't have the new tech on it but you're still peddling..that's the whole point, no?
If you'd ever try any of these you'd find there is an easy answer to this question, which is "no". Just riding on a "dumb" trainer is boring as hell and doesn't allow you to do structured training (unless you have a powermeter on the bike...but it's still boring as hell in that case). Zwift let's you race against others, there are pre-designed training sessions, Strava segments just like in real life, you can ride up a proper mountain path and try and beat your personal best and you can follow "real" world cup circuits etc etc...that all helps an awful lot with motivation and fun factor. It's not as good as an outside ride but if it's bucketing down it's the next best thing. I have done 2 hour rides on the trainer with Zwift and I would never be able to do that on a dumb trainer.
@@tecnociclista5342 the answer is yes. you are literally only pedaling. you're not working on practical skills like you would in a real ride. no cornering. no adapting to higher altitude hill climbs. all you'll get is resistance training. you can easily just set up a monitor to watch some movies or shows while riding and it'll be just the same without the expensive ones.
Exactly. Is there a turbine on it producing resistance as you pedal and making an ungodly whooshing noise? No? Then it's a smart trainer or maybe just a trainer.
Please note that the rollers WILL destroy your rear tire. It will square and it will square quickly.
StuntpilootStef correct, always use old tires at their last leg on rollers or wheel on trainers.
I've been using Kreitler rollers with two flywheels and a headwind fan for about 2500 miles of indoor training and it hasn't done much visible damage to the tire, I agree and wouldn't recommend your good tires because it does give the tire a shiny almost aluminum looking glaze but it isn't wearing the tire like normal road riding has and certainly hasn't squared the tire. I use the wheels that came on the bike from new with the tires that came with them (Specialized Roubaix pro) then switch to my normal wheels and tires outside.
I'm not one for riding in cold and wet weather either but I do have an ergometer from vidaXL with Bluetooth to which I can join my tablet and over the internet pick videos from trips people have recorded .... the resistance on the flywheel is controled with an eletromagnet so when in the video it go's uphill the resistance increaces .... I've rode a couple of times around Central Park in New York :-) ... the ergometer cost around 200€ (about 180 Pounds) on Ebay
Just bought the Elite trainer he showing and will get started this week. A very helpfull video. Thanks
Which one, the cheap one or expensive one? They are both elite trainers
I have been riding rollers on the off season sporadically for years. Can Zwift or trainer road receive data from my bicycle computer, it is ANT+ and Bluetooth compatible? If that is the case then a cheap trainer would also work with the exception of not automatically adjusting the resistance to simulate hills, higher speeds, headwind, etc., wouldn't it?
Your shoes (white with red laces) looks wonderful. Which model they are?
After one week I will receive my Elite magnetic roller.
What if someone prefers using a dedicated indoor bike, like a spinning bike... for the easy ability to adjust saddle/handlebar settings for multiple riders quickly? I see the Wattbike, TacxNeo may be what I'm looking for but they cost an arm and a leg. I was looking at the Schwinn IC4 which has built in Bluetooth and advertises as being compatible with Zwift. According to Rouvy, it wouldn't work with their software though. It's not a true smart bike from what I understand. Spinning bikes don't allow for the difficulty to be transmitted through to the virtual apps because of the manual adjustment correct? I'd like to use either Zwift, Rouvy or some other app to make riding indoors more fun but don't really care about true accuracy. I think I'd be happy with being able to just see movement of the bike on the screen from activity through the wheels.
What's my best bet do you think? No great choices yet? The Schwinn IC4 has Bluetooth... I called the company, they couldn't even tell me what iteration of Bluetooth it has. Don't want to be confined to just Zwift as an option.
Buy El cheapo spinning bike and wait for the prices of the TacX Neo type bikes to come down in price?
Magene T100 Semi-smart Direct-drive Trainer. Is this good enough as a budget trainer?
Here I have 35 year old rollers that cost me $ 175.00. They do just fine.
Mine are quite so old but love my rollers and when combined with my power pedals I get power for indoor and outdoor rides plus I get a bit more real feel when riding indoors.
Does anyone know which of the smart trainers is the quitest?
Most likely Tacx Neo (2), Wahoo Kickr Core and latest Kickr model.
you forgot wheel on smart trainers ;-) - something in between these 2 you are presenting. I.e. Wahoo SNAP that costs now 430 GBP. And btw Elite also has one like this. So no, the choice is not between 165 or 1000 GBP
This video is a joke, clearly Elite is their sponsor. There are cheaper direct drive trainer like the Wahoo Kickr Core or even an Elite Suito. Besides, who would even consider the Elite Drivo II is beyond me. The Tacx Flux or Wahoo Kickr are way more advanced at this point and nearly silent.
@@Teddy-vs5rw How about Elite Qubo or Tuo for the wheel-on trainers?
the elastagel fluid resistance unit on my elite crono turbo trainer has just completely broken.......I will NOT be purchasing an elite turbo trainer again.
Hi there, so sorry to hear that.
Have you already contacted us? the email address is info@elite-it.com
Our elastogel has been extremely reliable in terms of durability so it would be interesting to figure out what happened.
Elite Cycling yes I have had very recent frequent emails with elite and I told them my crono is outside warranty and I just want to buy the fluid resistance unit to fix the wall of noise mine is making. they won't sell me a unit and it's just been going round and round in circles, to say I'm disappointed with elite and their lack of assistance in this matter is an understatement, I mean I just want to buy a part from them, the guy I've been dealing with is Andreas. I contacted the UK distributor Madison and they were beyond useless.
When you have a "sensitive" neighbours you're left with only 2 options: not having a turbo trainer or buying tacx neo 2 ;/
What?
@@MjoedDrikkar Because tacx neo 2 is ultra silent....
@@666Dejmien666 ... or Wahoo Kickr Core or Wahoo Kickr 2018
@@Teddy-vs5rw There's always something wrong with wahoo units, so no thx.
ERG MODE DOES NOT WORK FOR ELITE DRIVO II. MYSELF AND MANY OTHERS RETURNED THIS JUNK
when it comes to affordable trainers and expensive ones...isn't the main purpose just to pedal? as long as it has the necessary resistance any one of them should be fine, right? i ride my gravel bike to and from work-rain or shine so these tools are quite pointless in my opinion. just get the more affordable one..it might be louder or doesn't have the new tech on it but you're still peddling..that's the whole point, no?
In a word, no.
For me, yes. Most people aren't doing Zwift competitions. They want to pedal and see the bike move.
If you'd ever try any of these you'd find there is an easy answer to this question, which is "no". Just riding on a "dumb" trainer is boring as hell and doesn't allow you to do structured training (unless you have a powermeter on the bike...but it's still boring as hell in that case). Zwift let's you race against others, there are pre-designed training sessions, Strava segments just like in real life, you can ride up a proper mountain path and try and beat your personal best and you can follow "real" world cup circuits etc etc...that all helps an awful lot with motivation and fun factor. It's not as good as an outside ride but if it's bucketing down it's the next best thing. I have done 2 hour rides on the trainer with Zwift and I would never be able to do that on a dumb trainer.
@@tecnociclista5342 the answer is yes. you are literally only pedaling. you're not working on practical skills like you would in a real ride. no cornering. no adapting to higher altitude hill climbs. all you'll get is resistance training. you can easily just set up a monitor to watch some movies or shows while riding and it'll be just the same without the expensive ones.
@@shushuyu try it and then we talk again :)
Great video lads
None of these are turbo trainers fyi.
Requiredfields2 fully aware. But just like not all vacuum cleaners are Hoovers, everyone knows what you are talking about when you say ‘Turbo trainer’
"turbo"trainer. Just stop. 1985 called and wants its Vetta wind trainer back.
Exactly. Is there a turbine on it producing resistance as you pedal and making an ungodly whooshing noise? No? Then it's a smart trainer or maybe just a trainer.