If you want a good season 13 episode I would recommend the episode “Food PBTTTT Truck” It’s a much better episode than this one and I would actually recommend it
The one thing I miss is that Spongebob has more personality than being annoying. Remember when Squidward got fired and SpongeBob got so annoyed with Squidward because he was mooching off of him and he even strangled Mr.Krabs because it was over a stupid old dime. That's one of my favorite episodes to quote because I remember it so well lol.
Mhm, i love when SpongeBob was allowed to get mad and be serious when needed to be, makes him more believeable and rounded of a character, i make characters of my own and i think that kind of balance makes the difference
@@L0rdOfThePies I’m just waiting for more series 13 episodes to releases in the UK! Because there haven’t been any new episodes out in the UK as of yet.
My problem is the overexaggeration. The jokes aren't bad themselves for the most part, but the overuse of ridiculous faces taints them. Old spongebob used its "silly" faces sparingly and not every joke had one.
People usually mask it with "extremely great animation" "looks inspired by ren and stimpy, which is my childhood show so it's a win win for me", kinda tired of it
@@cbbblue8348 Same! There was that episode where Spongebob and Sandy went to hunt for Mr. Krabs' formula ingredients and Plankton failing hard at trying to copy how the duo fetched these items! I haven't fully watched it, but there were a lot of actual jokes thrown with proper consideration (from what I saw, at least), and I wish Spongebob would go in that direction instead!
Do you guys remember when SpongeBob was an actual character with his own limitations, gripes and more than one emotion that didn't actively try to cause chaos for the people around him?
To play devil's advocate, go back and watch episode 6 (the first mermaid man and barnacle boy episode) and you tell me early spongebob didn't have the ability to be a one emotion, unwarranted chaos causing machine. Legit all he does that episode is torture and bother ptsd-riddled elderly men until he got what he wanted. What I'm about to say is wild level conspiracy, but I think Paul Tibitt (who wrote the aforementioned episode and became the post-movie show runner for years) always sort of saw spongebob that way and probably had a big hand in slowly, perhaps unintentionally, shaping the cast into the way they are now. Other early spongebob writers are generally the ones to have given spongebob the more human aspects you (and I) remember.
I remember, Spongebob at least felt natural with his personality. In some cases he would stand up for himself. Even to Mr Krabs and Squidward ("Can you spare a dime" is one example). Now he has one emotion, and it almost makes him seem like a child because he's happy 24/7
@@Namingway248 I mean the thing is Spongebob has always been "annoying" to characters. Difference is that Spongebob at least felt like a good-hearted character that didn't know when to quit. He should be "annoying" to the characters in his never-give-up mentality and persistence taking things out of control in a entertaining way to watch. He shouldn't be "annyoing" to the audience, purposely unlikable and just being random and quirky. It almost feels like the shows newer episodes want us to purposely root against spongebob for the audiances sake.
@@Namingway248 I put the fault on Vincent Waller just as much, if not more than Paul Tibbit. Tibbit wrote a majority of the seasons 1-3 episodes. Meanwhile, Vincent was a high power on Ren and Stimpy and much of that show's grotesque and obnoxious slapstick transitioned to Spongebob, starting as early as season 2, blooming around the 3rd-4th season, and exploding into the one-note chaos bringer he is now. Given Waller became in charge recently, I feel he bears more responsibility for Spongebob's deterioration than Paul ever did. And then you have Kamp Koral's backstory completely shattering the show's baseline continuity... I just lost faith in the show. Sea Man Sponge Haters Club was the final nail in the coffin. Kamp Koral killed my faith in the show, that repulsive episode killed my faith in the character.
@@miragenights801 That's a very well thought out conclusion! I had not looked into him as deeply, so I wasn't aware of his connection to ren and stimpy. Kamp Koral tried to tell continuity lovers to shut up by adding a throwaway interaction where sandy is actually trying to make changes in the past to stabilize the future timeline or something stupid like that, but as I just implied its still stupid and kind of lame. I also am one of the people who finds the extended universe concepts disrespectful to hillenburg's original desires, but I understand that to be a contentious point.
The problem that newer SpongeBob falls into is that SpongeBob was never inherently annoying. He was only cheerful, optimistic, and a bit on the naive side, which naturally bothered a good portion of the cast because they themselves are either cynical, self-centered, or both(Squidward, Mrs. Puff, Plankton, arguably Krabs). The dynamic is what made it funny, SpongeBob was just living life while everyone else is reacting to it as if it's complete insanity. He wasn't annoying, they were just often annoyed by him.
And at least he had some personality. I mean, he and Patrick often got into quarrels and he even yells at Squidward to get a job. If you make a one dimensional character with zero qualities, then you're just asking for trouble
I’m pretty sure Mrs Puff suffered from Spongebob before season four. But it’s not because he’s annoying. It’s because he would always get into accidents with her.
But the thing is, the faces and quotes were unintentional, the memes just happened naturally and that’s what made them funny, it just feels like Nickelodeon is just trying too hard with it
See for me, I just stopped watching SpongeBob and never came back. The episode that finally did it for me was "Stuck in the wringer" Even as a kid I was starting to get annoyed by the direction the show was going, but that episode in particular was unfunny, bitter, and flat out infuriating to watch. If an 8 year old gets frustrated by your cartoon that's supposed to be funny, you did something VERY wrong.
Hey bosh. Yeah, those seasons were the worst. I remember watching that episode like 6 months ago, it was one of the worst spongebob episodes I've ever seen
My little 7 year old niece can't stand spongebob. If that doesn't tell you it's not grabbing the younger audience like it used to I don't know what will.
@@RheemQ To be fair just because your niece doesn't like SpongeBob that doesn't mean all kids feel the same way. I agree however that the shows gone downhill even if the recent episodes aren't as bad as past seasons people consider to be SpongeBob at it's lowest.
I know Spongebob was never too aware of how he affected people with his overly optimistic attitude, but it's so WEIRD knowing that they try to make their *main character* as dislikable as possible and to have the WORST relationship with people around him as possible. Like, what's the point? It's surprising that Bikini Bottom citizens aren't just straight up murdering each other at this point.
@@icecreamhero2375 It really does looks like they're emphasizing his worst qualities a lot more these days just for laughs. Like seriously, who's laughing at other people's misery? That's just rude.
Its true. It kinda feels like the new Spongbob focuses on exaggerated and shocking looks and and visuals (similar to Ren and Stimpy?), while the old Spongebob focused on unexpected jokes and ridiculous scenarios. Man I miss the past
@@texasroze2371 True. I never watched Spongebob as a kid, but even as someone who didn’t grow with the nostalgia, it’s clear as day to see which one is superior
Thats the thing, they could do so much with the new Ren and Stimpy look. The sad thing is that SpongeBob just acts like Stimpy now, but there's no Ren to SCREAM AT HIM AND PUNCH HIM IN HIS ANNOYING FACE
I would even argue that post first movie SpongeBob was better, because while it had its problems too it at least tried to create its own unique stories, jokes etc. whereas nowadays they’re relying on bringing back old characters, making forced sequel episodes etc. post first movie SpongeBob was bad but post second movie SpongeBob is just desperate
The main problem is this: Stephen Hillenburg's gone, he was generally what gave this show its heart and soul, without him, it's doomed to insanity. It will just keep getting more and more ridiculous until ratings drop and it's finally axed for good, that's the sad, unfortunate truth of the show's future. Long live the old Spongebob I once knew!
Yeah, that's true. Nick & Viacom don't have his vision or drive & since Spongebob is "theirs" now, they do whatever they think pushes sales. I'm an unpublished comic book artist, & that's one of the things I fear if I ever decide to publish my work.
True to an extent, the real main problem is nick. You could distill the heart and soul of the original 3 seasons into a list of rules to always follows that could pretty faithfully reproduce the same charm. You'd pretty much need to axe out seasons 5 to 13 though not that there is much continuity anyway. We have enough material to know how to write these characters in their prime, just nobody seems to follow it.
@@PochiPandalope Indeed, Nick has some of the WORST people working for them now, they no longer care about kids like they once did, it's all about agendas and other pointless BS now. BTW, to me, Spongebob was over after the first film came out, all the episodes that followed were non-canon, even Stephen said he wanted the first movie to be the closer for his series, all the episodes after it made no sense to me anyway.
One of the biggest issues with modern SpongeBob is that it turned its once colorful cast of characters into one-dimensional characters, having been reduced to sole, stereotypical personalities that exist only to satisfy the needs of the episode’s plot, in turn limiting the possibilities of storytelling. That's why many recent episodes have been accidentally showing similar traits from previous episodes, or have purposely relied on singular, one-joke characters out of desperation for originality. It’s not that there’s a lack of imagination or even effort at times, but when you have a show running for this long, future writing teams may not hold the same values, beliefs, or ideas that the creator once had in mind. Comedy is subjective and all but you don't have to love SpongeBob just because it's SpongeBob.
The very term you described is what is known as Flanderization. Named after The Simpsons character Ned Flanders, Flanderization is when new writers come to work on the show and make it easier to write about them by making a character’s specific traits their entire personality. And Flanderization has happened throughout lots of long-running media, like The Simpsons, Family Guy, SpongeBob SquarePants, and even Sonic The Hedgehog.
@@vanderquakSP This makes you wonder why SpongeBob is among the longest running animated shows of all time (only behind Family Guy, South Park, Arthur and The Simpsons).🤔
@@vanderquakSP Watching Alpha get so mad at this review and then seeing that Flanderization has indeed occurred here, it makes me wonder how the writers of SpongeBob specifically keep getting away with it.
@@CarlosJoseMunez88 It’s easy: most long-running media get away with Flanderization because the original creator and writers are no longer involved. This is the case with SpongeBob SquarePants, as Stephen Hillenburg passed away, and most of the original show writers left.
My opinion on new SpongeBob is that some episodes are good, some are bad. My biggest disappointment is that Squidward is definitely being more mistreated by the "annoying" SpongeBob. Overall, SpongeBob now is not the one that I looked up to from what I grew up with.
I think Squidville is a great anti-Spongebob episode. Having Squidward move away due to Spongebobs shenanigans and having Squidward finding himself bored and miserable in a place that's paradise to him, I find to be an idea that newer spongebob doesn't really tackle (as far as I'm aware). Squidward finds joy by being more like Spongebob instead of just constantly hating him.
I remember when Spongebob was actually rather competent (at least to an extent) and not just a blabbering dunderhead. Seeing him succeed because he's good at what he does instead of blind luck was satisfying to watch, and he certainly demonstrated that he was smart enough to handle many more situations than Current SB is.
In less time: SpongeBob isn't supposed to be annoying but rather a optimistic child. A child can be annoying but also can be annoyed, sad, confused and even scared.
my favorite episode is Band Geeks as a band kid, I found the band jokes absolutely hilarious and honestly relatable. also love how Squidward actually won in this episode and wasn't treated like garbage
Here's what I think of modern Spongebob: -It's only expressive because it wants from the Internet to make memes of it like how we have memes for older seasons -It brings back these older characters for nostalgia only -Fuck the two spinoffs it has -It just feels corporate...
My favorite episode is '' Have you seen that Snail? '' It has a touching message about pets and friendship, the song '' Gary come home! '' is sad and cute, the animation is expressive and full of charm. It's tragic and charming, a classic :D
Honestly the worst part about modern SpongeBob to me is the new artstyle combined with the writing turning into just, random nonsense and stupid faces. The first five seasons were great and I'll always stand by that, I even love infamous episodes like Atlantis SquarePantis it's probably my favorite post movie special besides the stop motion holiday ones.
They need to learn to properly use the funny faces well to make jokes more funny in my opinion. In Season 3, 4 and the first movie, the character's make funny faces, and it was used quite well, it was mixed in with other jokes.
@@Dezlite Exactly, the funny faces should go with the jokes, not be the joke. Making every joke just be a wacky face that doesnt go with any delivery or joke just makes them fall flat and exhaust the viewer of seeing an exaggerated face too much where it comes to the point of being somehow bored by it.
@@rsaravia115 I won't argue it's not as good but I think it's probably the best two of the post movie seasons, along with again the stop motion specials and Mimic Madness.
I don't watch family Guy but really though. Like back then you knew it was going to be a little bit of something that would happen to her but at this point it's just flat out torture.
@@jamesstanley1924 Nah Bubble Bass is clearly that one family guy character (I forgot his name) who works at a convenience store and has the same voice actor as Bob Belcher from Bob's Burgers.
Just recently i noticed that the further you get into the series the more the characters lose themselves, the biggest thing is Squidward genuinely wanting to hurt SpongeBob, in the prior seasons he's willing to stick up for him and doesn't hate him he just finds him annoying
Yeah. Same thing happened to Ms Puff too. Getting tortured that ends up where they want Spongy dead; I feel bad for them but I also hate seeing them become the "bad guy" in their respective episode (glaring at Demolition Doofus). That's why I'm hesitant to watch new episodes where either Squidward or Mrs Puff appear. But that's also why I liked Band Geeks & Krusty Love where they were actually happy & in no crazy amount of pain.
@@TimerdonDWI I’m sad they didn’t have a plot on mrs. puff’s backstory and why she uses a different name, I feel like that sub-plot or even a turn for the main plot to include it would have been SO MUCH BETTER.
It’s the flanderization. They took one aspect of the character and exaggerated it to be their whole personality. We knew Squidward found SB annoying but not the point where he’s trying to kill him every episode. Same with Patrick he was particularly dumb in the first few scenes just a little oblivious and carefree, now he’s just brain dead.
@@TimerdonDWI I’m pretty sure Mrs Puff was suffering from Spongebob even before season four. She even decided to stay in prison just to get away from Spongebob.
My biggest problem with Spongebob is the gross out humor. I can handle a show just not being good or funny you can watch it for being bad but when it starts showing disgusting stuff I just cannot sit through that.
The show's humor has dried up like The Great Salt Lake. I'm not mad at the Spongebob team, I'm mad at Nickelodeon. Any show that's going to run on this long is clearly getting milked unless it had more good content to offer.
Really though that's what I said in my comment that they officially went over that line where they should have stopped because then the show just gets worse and worse and ruined. And that line was probably like a few seasons ago.
I only have three issues with the show now: 1. It's too fast pace now. Every time I try to watch the new episodes I'm always like "Jesus, what the hell is going on? Slow down! 2. The in your face humor & animation. It's like the show is always trying to desperately keep your attention now. 3. Spongebob himself. It's like he's not even the same character anymore, he's basically a immature kid now. Heck seasons 6-8 were more true to his character (Sometimes) then the new seasons. Despite all of that, the new episodes are mostly hit more miss, some i like and some i don't like. but man those misses hit harder then the hits.
I kid you not I have SpongeBob on right now, I looked away for 3 minutes and I don’t even know how this part of the episode relates to the part I started at
Unpopular opinion: They did the same thing to Ash Ketchum. In the last episode he's in he looks 7 years younger than in the first episode ever. Why do they need to make every single super popular cartoon/ anime for literal fetuses nowadays? Things that were for the whole family years ago are now for newborns playing... Fortnine, Roblox or whatever kiddies do nowadays.
@@vulk7183 Yeah, I really don't understand how that can be an upgrade for the show itself and for financial reasons. 🤦🏻♂️ Why change something that is destined to always work?
My favorite episode was Pizza Delivery. It showed thay Spongebob wanted to do what was right and how he fought temptation for the good of the customer. And it showed that while yes Squidward was annoyed by Spongebob he still cared about him. When the customer was mean to Spongebob and how Squidward stood up to the customer despite being annoyed with Spongebob. It showed that yes someone can annoy you but you can be annoyed by someone and still care for them. It had wacky humor sprinkled in but it never took away from their personality or character.
"Knowing why something can be funny is not the same as that thing being funny." OMG. Finally someone who understands comedy. You're supposed to actually make jokes. You don't get free credit for someone thinking of a more funny scenario than what you did. It's making those funny scenarios a reality that turns a fleeting thought into a cemented punchline.
"Mid-Life Crustacean" is my favorite episode of the show, and it's not even totally based on the episode itself. I mean, it IS, it's a good episode and stuff but one specific joke. Where Mr. Krabs says "You boys just hanging out" and it cuts to Patrick's gut hanging out over his waistband with a casual "yes~". I remember that KILLED my brother and I, not just at the time but for like MONTHS afterwards. We'd get red in the face just thinking about it and the "ARE YOU READY TO GO CRAZY" "I"M ALREADY HEARING VOICES" bit. It was just a way that we could make each other totally lose it laughing at the drop of a hat. And that was nice.
That episode was also one of those rare times (if not the only time) where Krabs was genuinely not into money and showed no sign of greed or cheapness. He wanted to "feel young again" instead of his usual "make money," which is not only really interesting, also relatable. Something most (if not all) modern SpongeBob episodes fail at is being relatable to the audience. The episode is relatable because of humans aging and "losing their luster" as they get older. What they once had, they lost to maturing. It was an amazing episode.
How this episode should have ended. Spongebob overhears their stories and feels guilty for causing them so much trouble and after getting in he present them with a cake and apologies for all the trouble and even makes a sweet speech about on how each of them are important apart of his life. Touched by his speech the others realized that despite him being annoying he still a good person and before they can have cake patrick barges in eats the cake making him have a extreme sugar rush breaking everything then squidward would say. "All in favor of changing the name to the starfish hating club?"
SpongeBob used to be a hand-crafted show with heart in it. The characters had personalities, the episodes were well crafted, and had a perfect mix of simple fun for kids and witty jokes for the older crowd. I think its become a cash grab completely tailored to be as mentally stimulating as possible for the attention spans of gen alpha.
There's a reason why I want this show to end after its fourteenth season. The show already has lots of episodes, and I might lose interest in this show like other people did if it continues to go on and on. With an episodic show like SpongeBob with barely any continuity, we'll just get the same concepts over and over again with a ridiculously large amount of episodes, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nickelodeon gives the show a fifteenth season.
I think some other good ways to save the show is for at least one of these things to happen: -Nickelodeon hires writers that grew up on classic SpongeBob so they can try to reverse the Flanderization that happened to the main characters -They try to have more episodes contain good(not cringy) pop culture references -Modernization
Despite the fact that some people don't like the modern SpongeBob episodes you can't deny that the ratings are still good and shows no sign of slowing down
People did think that the show was going to end in Season 8 because it was getting pretty bad, then Season 9 was a redemption arc. If the team could get some better writers, maybe they could pull the Season 9 mirace again
Imma be real here. This episode looked like writers just wanted an excuse to write some fetishy stuff into a cartoon. I mean...Bubble Bass eating Spongebob followed by the sponge coming out of his BELLYBUTTON? That is not even funny, that's just straight up weird and uncomfortable.
Yeah, uh, I think everything in this episode except Plankton's story had some sort of fetish implied in it. Oh wait, Plankton torture with some torture against Karen too. Yeah, you're right (especially where Spongebob creeped that other boating student away), & it ain't what I came to watch Spongebob for!
Things I don’t like about the newer seasons: SpongeBo’s personality is JUST annoying nothing like how he used to be They made Patrick More dumbed down They make the animation AND voice acting over the top like at 0:49 and 4:16 However the earlier seasons were nothing like this! SpongeBob actually had personality The animation was simple, yet good And Patrick actually had SOME smart Moments Edit: and everything looks too colorful😭
@@texasroze2371 SpongeBob doesn’t have to be realistically accurate 24/7. Plankton being afraid of Pearl because she’s a whale makes sense and was a good moment of how whales actually eat plankton IRL. But making Patrick absolutely brain dead just because IRL Starfish don’t have brains is a really bad example of making the character accurate to their IRL counterpart.
The thing about SpongeBob for me was the characters used to have common sense. Even Patrick, as dumb as he was would display some sense in his character. The episode when they thought they stole the ballon, they were sitting around a campfire and even Patrick made the point how was that possible if they were under water. They also had a moral compass or a conscious. Like Mr. Krabs has always been greedy, but even he had his boundaries. A good example of that was when he originally sold the Krusty Krab. When he went back to work, and saw the place was being run, he chose to buy back the restaurant at the expense of being broke because he thought what the new owners were doing was morally wrong with the processed foods and hostile work environment. A good show is when characters have those boundaries that make it realistic and funny imo.
Yeah true. Patrick was dumb, but his thinking was based on logic or stupidity at a relatable level. His actions were kinda innocent too. Even though Spongebob has parents, Mr Krabs acted as a half-decent & caring parent figure to him too. They all had something that allowed them to be likeable or relatable in a good way
Easy fixes to make the stories better and more in character Mrs. Puff: A generic episode of Spongebob actually trying earnestly to get his license but his inability to drive causes them to crash. Plankton: Spongebobs obliviousness causes him to screw up one of Plankton's plans to steal the formula by mopping when Planktons invention moves across the Krusty Krab or a dropped patty causes it to veer off course and crash in to a wall. Bubble Bass: A soft sequel to Pickles where every time Spongebob brings him food, Bubble Bass purposely messes with the order for kicks to get free food but Spongebob catches him in the act and feeds him a nasty patty or just reveals that he'd taped himself making the food. All of these could be told from the perspective of the people telling the stories and dramatized to make it seem like they're all innocent victims of Spongebob being annoying or going out his way to ruin their days and you could have Spongebob listening in on this from outside Squidwards window and recalling the actual events for the sake of having him interrupt the meeting but with his inner monologue so it doesn't break the immersion of the episode and continue the blatant Flanderization of the characters.
Yeah, those ideas would keep consistency with the innocence of Spongebob & his interactions with these characters. I know errors in continuity happen all the time, but character continuity is something that cannot be altered, & ruins a character sometimes, case in point this episode, where he seems like he's doing this maliciously out of nowhere.
If I’m being completely honest, I’ve always found season 6 (a hated season) to be funnier than the newest seasons. Something about the awkwardness of it makes me laugh
bubblebass's story sounds like something he would make up to make spongebob look bad because spongebob has never been known to be bad at his job. Squidward is suppose to be the bad employee.
@@lpscupcakesprinkles yea and knowing modern squidward he probably agree with bubblebass if he wasn't lying. Makes me miss the few times squidward used to defend spongebob actually
Said by the ones who: - destroyed his confidence for kicks (Bubble Bass, Season 1) - signed him up for a demolition derby to get him killed (Mrs. Puff, Season 8) - is a regular villain meaning EVERYONE harm and once hired a hitman to do him (and Patrick) in (Plankton, series in general and 2004 movie) - once tried to fry him (and Patrick) (Squidward, Season 10)
I think that while the art direction of current Spongebob is very welll animated it definitely isn't enough to back up the writing or humor of these episodes. Funny faces don't hide the fact that there isn't much nuance or story telling being provided and I agree that if this is what Spongebob had started out as it would've been left in the shadows.
I disagree I think the stories are fresher than ever. They are doing fun plots they haven't done before. We got a Pearl Squidward plot. He used to babysit her when she was a baby. Also the characters looked normal in this episode. SpongeBob only looked demented in Ms.Puff's fantasy.
@@icecreamhero2375 dude listen the point is the animations and story now don’t make sense and there used to be more humor that made adults laugh while being a kids show and now it’s just an over exaggeration of every single act they do if squidward burn his hand while talking to SpongeBob the story changes to squidward hurting for a good 15 seconds and tbh the animation looked better how it was before because it is nostalgic
“We DON’T Mean SpongeBob Any ‘Harm’, We Just Can’t STAND Him.” - The Official ‘We Hate SpongeBob’ Club Motto, A little mean-spirited but very catchy and relatable.
Man, I'm not even gonna lie. This episode had so much potential to be so memorable. The concept of characters who hate SpongeBob coming together to vent about their frustrations/problems with him, is seriously a great plot idea. I'm just sad that the story sucked, and that it was extremely predictable. Another issue that I definitely dislike the most about this episode: Why was SpongeBob a part of the episode at ALL? I mean, like, not in the flashbacks, those make sense. It would make sense for SpongeBob to obviously be in the flashbacks/stories they all tell. But SpongeBob could've easily been left out of the episode outside of the stories. They could've gone to Mrs. Puff's house, they could've gone to the Chum Bucket. Hell, they could meet up in a cabin somewhere deep in the freaking woods. But of course the writers chose Squidward's house because HAHAH LET'S DESTROY SQUIDWARD'S HOUSE FOR THE UP-TEENTH TIME. Seriously, what the hell is that?! Anyways, yeah, episode could've been a LOT better, but these problems definitely are what ruin it.
What's more annoying is yet again what did Squidward even do to deserve getting his house destroyed? Like the older episodes a lot of times something bad happened to Squidward it was Karma, like I think one of the first episodes he gets his house destroyed he basically purposefully causes SpongeBob and Patrick too hate each other and majorly regrets this and has to get them to be friends again. Granted I feel like him getting his house destroyed even tho he did the right thing in the end is a little harsh, but like I said he did at least do something pretty mean to deserve what happened to him, so it was still pretty amusing and fun to watch, also in the end he was just getting them to be friends again for himself so they'd leave him alone and not doing it for them so I guess that's sorta bad too. But anyways point is before when Squidward got punished in some sort of way, he usually kinda deserved it which often made it amusing or at least not annoying in the older episodes
@@TitanXecutor it's seriously annoying because it just makes you find SpongeBob abysmal and like aren't you supposed to like the guy? Like I seriously remember him being very likeable in the older episodes as he was annoying at times but wasn't trying to be, he'd also sometimes feel bad in some episodes, I'm just saying SpongeBob in the old episodes was a really nice character he was just unintentionally annoying at times
The old shows were clever and even adults found themselves watching them. The new ones are way more A.D.D. and look to be geared toward much younger audience. Also SpongeBob used to be misunderstood annoying in a cute way now he's just straight up harassing everyone
I’m glad that other people are feeling the same way here.. I honestly hate the fact that Modern SpongeBob has become this maniacal, incompetent monster. I miss the old SpongeBob.
Despite Jay’s questionable faith in HD SpongeBob at this point, I will always think it’s incredible how, before you could eat a Krabby Patty so slowly it’d take 13 years, Bubble Bass went from being the most minor of antagonists to appearing in practically every episode
My favorite episode of SpongeBob is either Band Geeks, Pizza Delivery, or Jellyfish Jam. All of them are charming and lovely. In band geeks, SpongeBob’s social awkwardness is offset by the consequences he faces for it by people calling him out. Jellyfish jam is just really fun in how optimistic and charming SpongeBob is. Pizza delivery shows both squidward and SpongeBob at their best. Both of them are layered and dynamic characters. SpongeBob has an iron will, but he’s also sensitive. Squidward is easily annoyed and grouchy, but ultimately is something of a mentor and father figure to SpongeBob, and he’s willing to defend him when he’s treated poorly by a customer. When SpongeBob is neurotic and a control freak, it doesn’t work out for him. It shouldn’t. That’s why Party Pooper Pants is funny. It’s a good episode. SpongeBob is patient but he’s not a pushover, his ability to be layered and be extremely angry and over the top is best demonstrated in “can you spare a dime”. He strangles Mr Krabs. He’s competitive, like in the employee of the month episode. I mean, I have to ask, when you have setups for such AWESOME characters with so much personality, how the fuck could you botch a show so badly? You have rich, wonderful characters and you go out of your way to make them as insufferable as possible? Modern SpongeBob is a mess of old tropes, completely backwards characterization, and fucking NOTHING happening for an entire episode. Old SpongeBob had so many jokes in a minute. Mid to modern season SpongeBob is such a snooze fest. No tension, no comedy. Just stale. Either pull the plug or hire people with some fucking passion, because currently the writing team is jaded and asleep at the wheel. It’s really disheartening, I fucking LOVE SpongeBob.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: In the worst episodes of this show, Spongebob, the character, seems to be portrayed like a boogeyman; a loud, destructive boogeyman that can't be escaped because plot armor. This is the only way I can justify Spongebob behaving like a fly in the Chum Bucket, the writers acknowledging that he's behaved like a boogeyman in certain episodes.
It's like SpongeBob subconsciously knows where to be and when to act to keep the reputation of being a "Boogeyman". That would be kinda funny actually.
This episode was the most out of character Spongebob had been portrayed. It embodies all the flanderized traits and runs loops with it. His whole motivation was made explicit through character summaries and Spongebob voicing it himself to make everyone's day better. To flip that where he unconsciously makes everyone miserable and play it to hell like a broken record is just disgraceful to his characterization. I've never seen character assassination as bad as Spongebob. It's ridiculous. And the episode could have been saved if there was an emotional apology at the end instead of Spongebob burning down Squidward's house and sneaking away. Spongebob would NEVER not take responsibility. Even Good Neighbors got that aspect of him right. Sea Man Sponge Haters Club is the worst made episode in terms of Spongebob's character. It finally killed my 20+ years of dedication.
I liked the old funny faces that they would do back then and during its updated art style period They weren’t all over the place, they were appropriate and well thought out, and they at least looked funny for the 10 seconds they were on screen, now they are rapid fire and all over the place to the point where it just flat out lost it’s charm and humor
The old funny faces used to just be appropriate for the characters feeling defeated or melodramatic. But now these faces just seem extreme, zany, and almost like the characters just morph into them, but they don't serve any visual purpose for a scene. They're just there, like the characters are mutating every few minutes.
I remember this one episode of SpongeBob where SpongeBob and Patrick get some toy from a cereal box. They end up "breaking" it and crying about it. Especially SpongeBob, I remember him crying and being an absolute baby about it. So yea I realized the SpongeBob that was genuinely funny left after season 3.
My biggest problem is that they rely too heavily on faces, and less funny writing. Not to mention with the new art style And writing, Squidward and Mr. Krabs the more mature characters start to act on the same level as SpongeBob and Patrick sometimes. Even Sandy does it too, to the point where sometimes I can extinguish the characters from each other because that’s how bad it’s gotten. Relying heavily on funny faces and not really good writing Really does make the show Feel more empty. Like what happened to the jokes like in mid life crustacean: SpongeBob: “are you ready to go crazy!” Patrick: “I’m already hearing voices”. Clever jokes like that make me laugh not these over done funny faces. And that’s where I have a problem with the faces, not only because they’re unfunny, because it makes characters that were supposed to look mature look immature. It gets old so fast. In the original SpongeBob they try to balance it out with more writing jokes than just faces to make it feel fresh and and funny to see. The less you see of a funny face the more you appreciate it when you do see it. Also funny faces back then also tied into jokes and were not random. Like this show just really forgot that it wasn’t the funny faces, it was the writing that made it funny not just the faces. It’s like they’re really just leaning in more to the kid side of things instead of appealing to everyone. Which might be the case which is really sad because I feel like you could still have the show be successful an appeal to everything.
I love (/s) when spongebob keeps bringing back characters but somehow not understanding them and flanderizing them, which is a pretty impressive feat considering a lot of the characters brought back or referenced didn't have much for a concrete personality in the first place.
I haven't watched the large majority of newer episodes, so I was legitimately shocked when I watched this video. I miss older SpongeBob, man. Now, I'm not saying that ONLY the super old SpongeBob is good, I honestly liked some of the episodes from a few years back, but now the show just isn't the same
a quick idea I had to fix the episode, What if these stories were fake versions of what happened because they don't like SpongeBob but in reality SpongeBob actually did things perfectly fine? for Bubble Bass' he thinks his order took hours longer than it should've, but in reality the order was actually one of SpongeBob's fastest (maybe he'd write down the time it took and bubble bass thought it was in hours and not seconds causing him to make up an entire story about just how long it took) Plankton's ruined story is about SpongeBob destroying all the technology in the Chum Bucket (including Karen) but it's a misremember of SpongeBob installing something to help Karen work faster (maybe Plankton would say something like "I just remembered a tool using tools") Mrs. Puff thinks it was the worst wreck SpongeBob has ever caused, but it was just a written test day and SpongeBob got an A (which checks out, it's the driving he's bad at not the knowledge) (then SpongeBob would say something like "the actual test is on Thursday" and Mrs. Puff checks what day it is) and for Squidward maybe he thinks SpongeBob ruined his best painting when he actually helped make it (then Squidward would give a backhanded compliment like "I guess you not as annoying as we all thought") this took me 10 minutes and I have no writing practice but this still seems better than what we actually got
You know what’d make for an interesting episode? Flipping things around by having SpongeBob and Patrick not wanting to spend time with Squidward rather than the inverse which is the norm.
@@shgurr you know what would work as a new concept for the series? Take this episode, but have a moral in mind of spongebob realizing that he can be too much to the people around him and actively try to be aware of their well-being.
I think the problem in this episode is the Self awareness in it. We kind of live in the age where self awareness joke and nostalgia is crank up to 11 in media. Most of the time it come off good when it develop a connect to the world or the real world. But in this episode it feel more like exposition. Like a remind that Sponge bob make others lives miserable kinda like the Episode the play is the thing. Where squidward does nothing but put a play on how horrible life is at the Krusty krab. All the Episode is exposition on self awareness and nothing else.
I agree. Self awareness doesn’t substitute for good jokes if the joke is purely that a character is self-aware. There should be some backbone to the joke, or just use self-awareness in short doses like with the first few seasons instead of entire episode plots. And I’m getting tired of so many SpongeBob episodes having reference after reference for no reason other than nostalgia baiting. It’s so cheap and lazy at this point, just like all fifty thousand of the other terrible reboot shows on Nickelodeon that exist purely for nostalgia bait.
The Camping Episode, me and my parents love it! We watch it at least once a year to get a good laugh. My dad's personal favorite line is, "What did I do that time!? I don't know? I think he just hates you?"
I just remember how older episodes were more laid-back. Like you could turn it on, and enjoy the laid back hawaiian music. I feel like all of the characters personalities were retrained, they made sure to keep the bombastic moments to a minimum.
I think they should’ve just ended the show after the movie, because the creator deliberately said he wanted to end the show off with the movie, but Nickelodeon of course had to audacity to say “No, we need more money.” Even after his death.. they went against his wishes and continued the show. Since then.. SpongeBob has really lost its flow to itself. I mean cmon, you got SpongeBob annoying squidward more than usual, which is most of the shows problem. Less fun to watch like it used to be. And overall just a headache to understand what’s going on. I know it’s a kids show but Nickelodeon shows has to have a show with characteristics, and some type of logic. (Or some story for that matter) What I’m trying to say is, Morden SpongeBob should be more like the Old SpongeBob. Not by style, but by the focus of characteristics, plot, and a certain interest to watch It. It just needs to slow down on the some of episodes. But who am I kidding, I couldn’t even write an episode of my own. But real talk, I hope they stop doing the unfunny, & make the show less annoying to watch. If you wanna have a good time watching SpongeBob, go watch the old episodes.
Your not wrong. It does seem that spongebob has lost it's funny, and its because of how Nickelodeon milked the franchise to where it's no longer as good as it used to be.
They're milking the memory of better writing, though. It's bad, cringe writing. All the unfunny dumb faces, strange cruelty, random confusing moments.. idk it's bad. It's like AI watched old episodes and generated new ones.
Band Geeks has to be my all-time favorite episode. From the funny musical jokes, to squidward getting the big win in the end, to that awesome song that should still be the superbowl half-time show. After like season 6 or 7 I completely fell out with the show and would really only rewatch season 1-4 and the first movie. I HATED what they did to characters. Spongebob was made more annoying than endearing to cause stories for other characters, Patrick is so stupid he's always mean and disregarding of other characters, Squidward went from causing issues and getting karma to just bad things happening to him without anyone caring, Mr. Krabs would be willing to send people to prison or kill them for more money instead of money not being everything to him. There's many reasons the IQ of the world is dropping, one is how old Spongebob used to teach me new words and lessons on top of being funny, now everyone is loud and stupid for no reason other than cheap gags.
I honestly liked this episode, I like how different characters interact, I liked how they all had something in common which is hating SpongeBob, what I think is that they are all telling each other what they have gone through all these 23 years but not being specific about which time it was, I see your side of this too because they could’ve had a good ending where the characters liked SpongeBob for a moment or something at least, but I rate this episode 7/10
"Is spongebobs perfectionism endearing or annoying?" Concerning. Also wow, they really reduced him to just a draw for chaos. You can't even call him a character anymore.
One of my main issues with the newer seasons has to be Patrick's personality, in the older seasons, he used to be a really great friend to spongebob, albeit a bit naive. Now he's just "generic dumb person that eats lots of food cause glutton thing". Another one of my main gripes is relying on nostalgia pandering, I'm alright with using old side characters in more episodes, but to the point where they have some sort of season 1-3 reference in every episode just seems obviously desperate now. (Fan service is good and cool, but not every episode please)
I love the references to old episodes. I hate it when they reference them and the characters don't seem to remember like in Doodle Dimension. That episode was crap.
I think we have to come to the conclusion that it won't be the same show it was, since new writers and staff don't have the same design sensibilities and mentality that Hillenburg & crew had. Initially it was this society with people (fish) that had depth and their own flaws, and whenever they were in an unexpected situation it was funny since they had to go beyond their character synopsis and interacted as such. They just don't have the same spirit that made me love the show as a kid, and granted the animation is really good compared, it feels empty seeing SpongeBob just be "the annoying one" when you remember him differently.
I don’t think modern SpongeBob is bad but did it really have to go on for this long. This SpongeBob really still have to be airing new episodes when people really only care about the first three seasons. Modern SpongeBob just seems mediocre to me which in my opinion in a way is worse than just being bad. Nick basically killed all of the cartoons that could’ve been as good as earlier SpongeBob. Harvey beaks and welcome to the Wayne we’re both pretty good shows with a lot of potential but they were killed and now barely anyone remembers them (especially welcome to the Wayne). The loud house isn’t even really good anymore to be honest so I’ve basically just been watching Disneys cartoons. Amphibia (i’m still in denial over the show ending) and the owl house mainly. The ghost and Molly McGee is also pretty good and I watch the new episodes whenever they come on Disney+
I'm going to be honest here the last season of SpongeBob I laughed a lot on was season 5 after that the show went downhill and got very dark and cruel at times. Although I've seen episodes from season 10 and 11 and 12 I don't think there is good as the episode that came from the first five seasons
Season one to three will honestly be my personal favourites! Back when a lot of lines were super quotable, the animation was simple and charming and they were practically just putting out hit after hit with keeping the characters super likeable and having everyone be able to enjoy it! As for the recent episodes… as beautiful as the animation looks I do feel like they need to tone back the expressions and wacky faces quite a bit! Old SpongeBob did this but it was always reserved for special moments every once in a while (which made it all the more funny when the wacky expressions appeared) but when they appear way more often in the recent ones eh… Kinda lose they’re magic (the animation is still beautiful though and really well done) I just think they need to hold back on the slapstick a bit more, as for jokes in the recent ones they’re fine and the overall episodes are fine.. nothing incredible like the golden years but good enough! I’ll take these over season 6-8 where they had episodes like the splinter and one course meal… although season 11 had ink lemonade which wasn’t great. But yeah new SpongeBob is fine, altho gotta say… older SpongeBob is a lot more quotable and typically had better writing in general, after the first movie (which was intended as the finale) flanderization occurred.
" they were practically just putting out hit after hit with keeping the characters super likeable" Party Pooper Pants and The Great Snail Race: "ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU!?!?
@@Omniblox season four was okay! Not as good and a bit more mediocre but could’ve been worse, C. H. Greenblatt left the staff by the end of season four sadly. Season five was meh and six, seven and eight were really bad… I consider them the middle era of the show.
I only gave up on SpongeBob ONCE and that was because my family couldn’t afford cable anymore sometime in 2011. Once we got cable again around mid 2014, I got to watch the show once more. Sure it’s changed from previous seasons, but it was still funny. The show’s visual gags are one of the few reasons why I keep coming back to it. It’s still funny from time to time.
My personal favorite SpongeBob episode is Band Geeks, it's an all time classic and I still laugh at so many the iconic scenes from that episode. I just wish that SpongeBob still had that brilliance behind the characters that was in the first 3 seasons and the first movie. I gave up on SpongeBob after seeing disappointing and flanderized the characters have become in the latest seasons, the brand has no personality anymore and it just disappoints me.
Imagine if Band Geeks was made today…SpongeBob would definitely screech into the microphone while singing to make the audience members ears pop, and ruin it even more somehow embarrassing Squidward and proving Squilliam right
The saddest part is that this episode has such an incredible foundation for a plot to emerge. I would have never even expected these characters to have any reason to interact! Think about how in Gone, we don’t focus on the town’s attempts to have their getaway from Spongebob, it’s the punchline of an episode using that premise to put Spongebob in charge of a puppet theatre scenario where his creativity and isolation are the main focus. We get to explore Spongebob’s perspective in a new light and his genuine distress for missing the people around him. Heck, genuine care is practically what makes Mrs. Puff’s episodes so engaging, as even in the first boating episode there was a premise. Spongebob can’t drive a boatmobile, so: He gets Patrick to set up a headset for him so he can read boating instructions in his head, and so he gets disappointed in cheating. Mrs. Puff boosts his self esteem by making him hall monitor, but he gets carried away by taking on misguided vigilantism until he’s a wanted felon. ... and even beyond these examples and more, Mrs. Puff is still a teacher, so we can have episodes about procrastinating an essay, resolving a fight with your best friend, ditching school and scary bullies. You’re telling me they brought together Squidward, an apathetic adult who can’t be bothered to deal with Plankton or Bubble Bass, two characters who frequent the Krusty Krab for different reasons, and Mrs. Puff, a responsible and well-meaning adult (on paper), *AND* throw in an extra with no as of yet established character, together under one common connection, and we can’t take them somewhere together they haven’t already been individually plenty of times, except without any added context or stakes? This stupid, unimaginative crash course in the suspension of disbelief could have been a new Pressure, half a Band Geeks, or at least a Krabby Road situation. My Leg was a success, not for the overused meme, but because they turned a background extra into an actual citizen of Bikini Bottom with occupations and a love life. Instead it’s nothing. It’s a print of an AI analyzing Spongebob gags and character synopses, creating a generic script of it, also the mailman was there.
I feel like SpongeBob just fell victim to every show that runs longer than it should: Singularity. People liked Squidward's gloomy nature, for example. As time progress and the show continued, ideas ran dry, and it became a matter of quantity over quality. The show reps looked out, since looking in obviously wasn't working, and they saw people relating to how gloomy and darkly humoured Squidward can be. So, they decided to play it up a bit. Everyone likes relatability, right? Right. However, over time, they went too far, and drained Squidward of what was the actual love of him. For his charm, his wit and sarcasm, his limits and his moments of defense for SpongeBob. That was what people actually loved, bc they made his gloomy dark humor more of a reward and appropriate setting. And the show reps failed to see it. So, Squidward reached a point of singularity, where he became solely his enraging annoyance and depressed ideations. It stopped being Squidward on his various days, good or bad, it became Squidward solely on his worst days, and no one desires that constant negativity.
To see what they see in spongebob in there perspective but Miss Puff perspective of spongebob Reminded me of that model from Creature from the Krusty Krab Game
I feel like how you talked about Spongebob having the leeway of mid episodes because of its royal fandom is comparable to that of how I view WWE nowadays. Only difference is I still watch anything WWE and wrestling in general religiously while I can't necessarily remember the last episode I actively watched and/or enjoyed for Spongebob. Writers and/or fans of content can't always rely on the "it's for kids" or the "it's for that demographic" as an excuse for repetitive episodes (which, in some cases, can be worse than even the damaging episodes) when other shows aimed for the same audiences simply provide them better.
as much as i hate to say it, spongebob just needs to be over with. i mean, we all watch the old episodes over and over again anyway with the same amount of entertainment. it’s only depressing seeing what it has become. tarnished
The new episodes aren't Spongebob anymore; its like seeing something wearing a human face when you know its not human because of how unsettling it looks.(The exaggerated faces that the characters make)
I watched a lot of episodes from the newer seasons and most of them are really good. I really love how some episodes focus on other characters besides SpongeBob.
Probably the graveyard shift or rock bottom because I just like how spooky they are, and the jokes were on point. The first Halloween special was pretty good too, for the same reasons.
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Tbh I like the old one better
The new one is to simple
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If you want a good season 13 episode I would recommend the episode “Food PBTTTT Truck” It’s a much better episode than this one and I would actually recommend it
The one thing I miss is that Spongebob has more personality than being annoying. Remember when Squidward got fired and SpongeBob got so annoyed with Squidward because he was mooching off of him and he even strangled Mr.Krabs because it was over a stupid old dime. That's one of my favorite episodes to quote because I remember it so well lol.
Mhm, i love when SpongeBob was allowed to get mad and be serious when needed to be, makes him more believeable and rounded of a character, i make characters of my own and i think that kind of balance makes the difference
Squidward didn’t get fired, he chose to quit
That episode is fire, no cap, I love when he showed more emotions than simple being childish, giddy or work-enthusiastic
Yeah, I remembered when SpongeBob has emotion, like we feel him; We're relatable to him.
@@L0rdOfThePies I’m just waiting for more series 13 episodes to releases in the UK! Because there haven’t been any new episodes out in the UK as of yet.
My problem is the overexaggeration. The jokes aren't bad themselves for the most part, but the overuse of ridiculous faces taints them. Old spongebob used its "silly" faces sparingly and not every joke had one.
People usually mask it with "extremely great animation" "looks inspired by ren and stimpy, which is my childhood show so it's a win win for me", kinda tired of it
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Same! There was that episode where Spongebob and Sandy went to hunt for Mr. Krabs' formula ingredients and Plankton failing hard at trying to copy how the duo fetched these items! I haven't fully watched it, but there were a lot of actual jokes thrown with proper consideration (from what I saw, at least), and I wish Spongebob would go in that direction instead!
@@genmeriphoton7655 That was a great episode. You should watch the whole thing. The ending is obvious but it's still funny.
Honestly
That’s the reason why I don’t like the new SpongeBob… tbh
Do you guys remember when SpongeBob was an actual character with his own limitations, gripes and more than one emotion that didn't actively try to cause chaos for the people around him?
To play devil's advocate, go back and watch episode 6 (the first mermaid man and barnacle boy episode) and you tell me early spongebob didn't have the ability to be a one emotion, unwarranted chaos causing machine. Legit all he does that episode is torture and bother ptsd-riddled elderly men until he got what he wanted. What I'm about to say is wild level conspiracy, but I think Paul Tibitt (who wrote the aforementioned episode and became the post-movie show runner for years) always sort of saw spongebob that way and probably had a big hand in slowly, perhaps unintentionally, shaping the cast into the way they are now. Other early spongebob writers are generally the ones to have given spongebob the more human aspects you (and I) remember.
I remember, Spongebob at least felt natural with his personality. In some cases he would stand up for himself. Even to Mr Krabs and Squidward ("Can you spare a dime" is one example). Now he has one emotion, and it almost makes him seem like a child because he's happy 24/7
@@Namingway248 I mean the thing is Spongebob has always been "annoying" to characters. Difference is that Spongebob at least felt like a good-hearted character that didn't know when to quit.
He should be "annoying" to the characters in his never-give-up mentality and persistence taking things out of control in a entertaining way to watch.
He shouldn't be "annyoing" to the audience, purposely unlikable and just being random and quirky. It almost feels like the shows newer episodes want us to purposely root against spongebob for the audiances sake.
@@Namingway248 I put the fault on Vincent Waller just as much, if not more than Paul Tibbit. Tibbit wrote a majority of the seasons 1-3 episodes. Meanwhile, Vincent was a high power on Ren and Stimpy and much of that show's grotesque and obnoxious slapstick transitioned to Spongebob, starting as early as season 2, blooming around the 3rd-4th season, and exploding into the one-note chaos bringer he is now. Given Waller became in charge recently, I feel he bears more responsibility for Spongebob's deterioration than Paul ever did. And then you have Kamp Koral's backstory completely shattering the show's baseline continuity... I just lost faith in the show. Sea Man Sponge Haters Club was the final nail in the coffin. Kamp Koral killed my faith in the show, that repulsive episode killed my faith in the character.
@@miragenights801 That's a very well thought out conclusion! I had not looked into him as deeply, so I wasn't aware of his connection to ren and stimpy. Kamp Koral tried to tell continuity lovers to shut up by adding a throwaway interaction where sandy is actually trying to make changes in the past to stabilize the future timeline or something stupid like that, but as I just implied its still stupid and kind of lame. I also am one of the people who finds the extended universe concepts disrespectful to hillenburg's original desires, but I understand that to be a contentious point.
The problem that newer SpongeBob falls into is that SpongeBob was never inherently annoying. He was only cheerful, optimistic, and a bit on the naive side, which naturally bothered a good portion of the cast because they themselves are either cynical, self-centered, or both(Squidward, Mrs. Puff, Plankton, arguably Krabs). The dynamic is what made it funny, SpongeBob was just living life while everyone else is reacting to it as if it's complete insanity. He wasn't annoying, they were just often annoyed by him.
And at least he had some personality. I mean, he and Patrick often got into quarrels and he even yells at Squidward to get a job. If you make a one dimensional character with zero qualities, then you're just asking for trouble
I’m pretty sure Mrs Puff suffered from Spongebob before season four. But it’s not because he’s annoying. It’s because he would always get into accidents with her.
@@lucasmatthiessen1570I guess one could argue that one's inability to improve no matter how much they've been taught can be very annoying.
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Back then even SpongeBob would get annoyed and snap unlike nowadays....oh Stephen your work was truly ruined in my opinion
I feel like they're just trying to make every frame a meme at this point.
But the thing is, the faces and quotes were unintentional, the memes just happened naturally and that’s what made them funny, it just feels like Nickelodeon is just trying too hard with it
yeah exactly. thats why they always zoom into the weird unfunny faces too.
@@MariotheMastermind comedy is like a fart, if you have to force it it’s probably crap.
@@redrazorx-23 How is this somewhat relatable
See for me, I just stopped watching SpongeBob and never came back. The episode that finally did it for me was "Stuck in the wringer" Even as a kid I was starting to get annoyed by the direction the show was going, but that episode in particular was unfunny, bitter, and flat out infuriating to watch. If an 8 year old gets frustrated by your cartoon that's supposed to be funny, you did something VERY wrong.
Hey bosh. Yeah, those seasons were the worst. I remember watching that episode like 6 months ago, it was one of the worst spongebob episodes I've ever seen
My little 7 year old niece can't stand spongebob. If that doesn't tell you it's not grabbing the younger audience like it used to I don't know what will.
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@@RheemQ To be fair just because your niece doesn't like SpongeBob that doesn't mean all kids feel the same way. I agree however that the shows gone downhill even if the recent episodes aren't as bad as past seasons people consider to be SpongeBob at it's lowest.
@@PeterGriffin11 I mean I know that but I was just making a point of how the show is even starting to lose younger viewers as well.
I know Spongebob was never too aware of how he affected people with his overly optimistic attitude, but it's so WEIRD knowing that they try to make their *main character* as dislikable as possible and to have the WORST relationship with people around him as possible. Like, what's the point? It's surprising that Bikini Bottom citizens aren't just straight up murdering each other at this point.
Part of the joke of Spongebob is he is extremely annoying. He has good qualities and bad qualities.
Yeah its really weird
@@icecreamhero2375 It really does looks like they're emphasizing his worst qualities a lot more these days just for laughs. Like seriously, who's laughing at other people's misery? That's just rude.
@@mkdemigodzillawarrior a very niche audience, one way too small to sustain even a small indie studio
@@icecreamhero2375 Yes. But they're over doing his bad qualities here.
Its true. It kinda feels like the new Spongbob focuses on exaggerated and shocking looks and and visuals (similar to Ren and Stimpy?), while the old Spongebob focused on unexpected jokes and ridiculous scenarios.
Man I miss the past
Eh the past should stay in the past
But hey be glad that some of us grew up around that era instead of this new one
@@texasroze2371 True. I never watched Spongebob as a kid, but even as someone who didn’t grow with the nostalgia, it’s clear as day to see which one is superior
Thats the thing, they could do so much with the new Ren and Stimpy look. The sad thing is that SpongeBob just acts like Stimpy now, but there's no Ren to SCREAM AT HIM AND PUNCH HIM IN HIS ANNOYING FACE
@@texasroze2371 yeah since a lot of cartoons aren't as creative here lately and the people behind them don't tend to be the best people.
Not only was the old spongebob better written but the animation and art was so beautiful back then
I would even argue that post first movie SpongeBob was better, because while it had its problems too it at least tried to create its own unique stories, jokes etc. whereas nowadays they’re relying on bringing back old characters, making forced sequel episodes etc. post first movie SpongeBob was bad but post second movie SpongeBob is just desperate
The main problem is this: Stephen Hillenburg's gone, he was generally what gave this show its heart and soul, without him, it's doomed to insanity. It will just keep getting more and more ridiculous until ratings drop and it's finally axed for good, that's the sad, unfortunate truth of the show's future. Long live the old Spongebob I once knew!
Yeah, that's true. Nick & Viacom don't have his vision or drive & since Spongebob is "theirs" now, they do whatever they think pushes sales. I'm an unpublished comic book artist, & that's one of the things I fear if I ever decide to publish my work.
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True to an extent, the real main problem is nick. You could distill the heart and soul of the original 3 seasons into a list of rules to always follows that could pretty faithfully reproduce the same charm. You'd pretty much need to axe out seasons 5 to 13 though not that there is much continuity anyway. We have enough material to know how to write these characters in their prime, just nobody seems to follow it.
@@PochiPandalope Indeed, Nick has some of the WORST people working for them now, they no longer care about kids like they once did, it's all about agendas and other pointless BS now. BTW, to me, Spongebob was over after the first film came out, all the episodes that followed were non-canon, even Stephen said he wanted the first movie to be the closer for his series, all the episodes after it made no sense to me anyway.
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One of the biggest issues with modern SpongeBob is that it turned its once colorful cast of characters into one-dimensional characters, having been reduced to sole, stereotypical personalities that exist only to satisfy the needs of the episode’s plot, in turn limiting the possibilities of storytelling. That's why many recent episodes have been accidentally showing similar traits from previous episodes, or have purposely relied on singular, one-joke characters out of desperation for originality. It’s not that there’s a lack of imagination or even effort at times, but when you have a show running for this long, future writing teams may not hold the same values, beliefs, or ideas that the creator once had in mind. Comedy is subjective and all but you don't have to love SpongeBob just because it's SpongeBob.
The very term you described is what is known as Flanderization. Named after The Simpsons character Ned Flanders, Flanderization is when new writers come to work on the show and make it easier to write about them by making a character’s specific traits their entire personality. And Flanderization has happened throughout lots of long-running media, like The Simpsons, Family Guy, SpongeBob SquarePants, and even Sonic The Hedgehog.
@@vanderquakSP This makes you wonder why SpongeBob is among the longest running animated shows of all time (only behind Family Guy, South Park, Arthur and The Simpsons).🤔
@@vanderquakSP Watching Alpha get so mad at this review and then seeing that Flanderization has indeed occurred here, it makes me wonder how the writers of SpongeBob specifically keep getting away with it.
@@CarlosJoseMunez88 It’s easy: most long-running media get away with Flanderization because the original creator and writers are no longer involved. This is the case with SpongeBob SquarePants, as Stephen Hillenburg passed away, and most of the original show writers left.
@@latexu95 bcs it makes Viacom/Nick billions in revenue as well as those shows. btw still think south park is decent
My opinion on new SpongeBob is that some episodes are good, some are bad. My biggest disappointment is that Squidward is definitely being more mistreated by the "annoying" SpongeBob. Overall, SpongeBob now is not the one that I looked up to from what I grew up with.
That's a great point!
This is the first time I've ever heard anyone say they looked up to Spongebob.
Some good, some bad, some really bad and some just feel like a different show entirely, a mock buster of SpongeBob but it’s official…
So they went back to season 6 writing? Wonderful... One would call it low hanging fruit, but that fruit is teeming with fly eggs...
Why did the series get cancelled
I think Squidville is a great anti-Spongebob episode. Having Squidward move away due to Spongebobs shenanigans and having Squidward finding himself bored and miserable in a place that's paradise to him, I find to be an idea that newer spongebob doesn't really tackle (as far as I'm aware). Squidward finds joy by being more like Spongebob instead of just constantly hating him.
oo ah oo tiki tiki
@@snailmannn welllllcome squidward's tiki landdddd (oo aa oo tiki tiki)
I remember when Spongebob was actually rather competent (at least to an extent) and not just a blabbering dunderhead. Seeing him succeed because he's good at what he does instead of blind luck was satisfying to watch, and he certainly demonstrated that he was smart enough to handle many more situations than Current SB is.
Same with Patrick. Like even though he was dumber than Spongebob, he wasn’t completely brainless.
Whoever’s reading this remember God loves you very much!!
Imagine being Plankton, Squidward, The Mail Man, and Bubblebass hearing about Mrs. Puff’s same story probably 431 times.
"you've been saying the same sh*t since '99" 🤣🤣🤣
In less time:
SpongeBob isn't supposed to be annoying but rather a optimistic child.
A child can be annoying but also can be annoyed, sad, confused and even scared.
1. SpongeBob is an adult not a child
2. Compared to how balanced he was in the earliest seasons, he’s certainly annoying nowadays
@@paulgilbert5278 1. Still acts like one
2. Exactly that
@@paulgilbert5278 How old is he though XD
@@dewolf123 depends if you follow his age by how old the show itself is
@@0verpricedcoffee553 He'd be a boomer's age by now!! 🤣
my favorite episode is Band Geeks
as a band kid, I found the band jokes absolutely hilarious and honestly relatable. also love how Squidward actually won in this episode and wasn't treated like garbage
“Is mayonnaise an instrument?”
@@netherwarrior6113 "no patrick, mayonnaise is not an instrument."
@@galaxia4437 _Raises hand again_
@@gabriellagehman3220 Horse rattish isn't an instrument either
@@gabriellagehman3220 horseradish is not an instrument either
Here's what I think of modern Spongebob:
-It's only expressive because it wants from the Internet to make memes of it like how we have memes for older seasons
-It brings back these older characters for nostalgia only
-Fuck the two spinoffs it has
-It just feels corporate...
True and I agree. I love SpongeBob, but the latest season and episodes is a capital "NO" for me especially the spinoffs.
@@darkgloomygal8400 the newer seasons are better then the first 3 and im someone who grew up with those episodes
@@tootslootandshoot my condolences to you
@@tootslootandshoot I hope this is a joke
@@joycondrift its not a joke and its especially better then beanmouth garbage like cuck of the creek you freaks watch
I miss when SpongeBob…the creators…the characters…had a soul.
My favorite episode is '' Have you seen that Snail? '' It has a touching message about pets and friendship, the song '' Gary come home! '' is sad and cute, the animation is expressive and full of charm. It's tragic and charming, a classic :D
And It's a post-movie episode :)
Honestly the worst part about modern SpongeBob to me is the new artstyle combined with the writing turning into just, random nonsense and stupid faces. The first five seasons were great and I'll always stand by that, I even love infamous episodes like Atlantis SquarePantis it's probably my favorite post movie special besides the stop motion holiday ones.
They need to learn to properly use the funny faces well to make jokes more funny in my opinion. In Season 3, 4 and the first movie, the character's make funny faces, and it was used quite well, it was mixed in with other jokes.
@@Dezlite Exactly, the funny faces should go with the jokes, not be the joke.
Making every joke just be a wacky face that doesnt go with any delivery or joke just makes them fall flat and exhaust the viewer of seeing an exaggerated face too much where it comes to the point of being somehow bored by it.
Seasons 1-3 are amazing and seasons 4-5 are alright but not as great as seasons 1-3.
@@rsaravia115 I won't argue it's not as good but I think it's probably the best two of the post movie seasons, along with again the stop motion specials and Mimic Madness.
I only like it for that cheeky Davy Jones pun
Mrs. Puff is basically Meg at this point. I hate any episode she's in because you know she's just there to be tortured. 😠
Honestly, Squidward is the Meg of the show. Patrick would be Chris
@@paulgilbert5278 for some reason i think bubble bass would be herbet
I don't watch family Guy but really though. Like back then you knew it was going to be a little bit of something that would happen to her but at this point it's just flat out torture.
@@jamesstanley1924 Nah Bubble Bass is clearly that one family guy character (I forgot his name) who works at a convenience store and has the same voice actor as Bob Belcher from Bob's Burgers.
@@KingKazuma777 meh probs
Just recently i noticed that the further you get into the series the more the characters lose themselves, the biggest thing is Squidward genuinely wanting to hurt SpongeBob, in the prior seasons he's willing to stick up for him and doesn't hate him he just finds him annoying
Yeah. Same thing happened to Ms Puff too. Getting tortured that ends up where they want Spongy dead; I feel bad for them but I also hate seeing them become the "bad guy" in their respective episode (glaring at Demolition Doofus). That's why I'm hesitant to watch new episodes where either Squidward or Mrs Puff appear. But that's also why I liked Band Geeks & Krusty Love where they were actually happy & in no crazy amount of pain.
@@TimerdonDWI I’m sad they didn’t have a plot on mrs. puff’s backstory and why she uses a different name, I feel like that sub-plot or even a turn for the main plot to include it would have been SO MUCH BETTER.
It’s the flanderization. They took one aspect of the character and exaggerated it to be their whole personality. We knew Squidward found SB annoying but not the point where he’s trying to kill him every episode. Same with Patrick he was particularly dumb in the first few scenes just a little oblivious and carefree, now he’s just brain dead.
SpongeBob is nothing without Stephen Hillenburg. The series should've ended at the last aired episode Hillenburg had involvement in.
@@TimerdonDWI I’m pretty sure Mrs Puff was suffering from Spongebob even before season four. She even decided to stay in prison just to get away from Spongebob.
I will admit the tiny door handles they gave plankton was pretty funny 9:20
Yeah, me too. Finally, someone found that funny too
Stapler bullet handles
the show has definitely maintained it’s observational comedy as far as I can tell.
My biggest problem with Spongebob is the gross out humor. I can handle a show just not being good or funny you can watch it for being bad but when it starts showing disgusting stuff I just cannot sit through that.
omg right??? some of the new stuff in the new episodes are literally so gross and disgusting and makes me cringe 😭😭
The show's humor has dried up like The Great Salt Lake. I'm not mad at the Spongebob team, I'm mad at Nickelodeon. Any show that's going to run on this long is clearly getting milked unless it had more good content to offer.
Which Salt Lake?
@@camrenmugabe3062 Exactly
II
Really though that's what I said in my comment that they officially went over that line where they should have stopped because then the show just gets worse and worse and ruined. And that line was probably like a few seasons ago.
LIKE 13 FREAKING SEASONS !?
I would say which one they should end it at but I haven't watched SpongeBob seasons in a while so I can't remember.
"Modern Spongebob is like an experiment that is either mildly successful or blows up in your face
" - Squidward Tentacles
*Tennisballs
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 *Tortellini
@@atomidragon *Tentpoles
I only have three issues with the show now:
1. It's too fast pace now. Every time I try to watch the new episodes I'm always like "Jesus, what the hell is going on? Slow down!
2. The in your face humor & animation. It's like the show is always trying to desperately keep your attention now.
3. Spongebob himself. It's like he's not even the same character anymore, he's basically a immature kid now. Heck seasons 6-8 were more true to his character (Sometimes) then the new seasons.
Despite all of that, the new episodes are mostly hit more miss, some i like and some i don't like. but man those misses hit harder then the hits.
In my opinion Patrick is now the most annoying character in spongebob right now
I kid you not I have SpongeBob on right now, I looked away for 3 minutes and I don’t even know how this part of the episode relates to the part I started at
Unpopular opinion: They did the same thing to Ash Ketchum. In the last episode he's in he looks 7 years younger than in the first episode ever. Why do they need to make every single super popular cartoon/ anime for literal fetuses nowadays? Things that were for the whole family years ago are now for newborns playing... Fortnine, Roblox or whatever kiddies do nowadays.
@@vulk7183 Yeah, I really don't understand how that can be an upgrade for the show itself and for financial reasons. 🤦🏻♂️ Why change something that is destined to always work?
Season 1 SB: Jokes that both kids and adults laugh at
Season 13 SB: “we’re out of toilet paper” - an actually joke in like season 11
My favorite episode was Pizza Delivery. It showed thay Spongebob wanted to do what was right and how he fought temptation for the good of the customer. And it showed that while yes Squidward was annoyed by Spongebob he still cared about him. When the customer was mean to Spongebob and how Squidward stood up to the customer despite being annoyed with Spongebob. It showed that yes someone can annoy you but you can be annoyed by someone and still care for them. It had wacky humor sprinkled in but it never took away from their personality or character.
"Knowing why something can be funny is not the same as that thing being funny."
OMG. Finally someone who understands comedy. You're supposed to actually make jokes. You don't get free credit for someone thinking of a more funny scenario than what you did. It's making those funny scenarios a reality that turns a fleeting thought into a cemented punchline.
"Mid-Life Crustacean" is my favorite episode of the show, and it's not even totally based on the episode itself. I mean, it IS, it's a good episode and stuff but one specific joke. Where Mr. Krabs says "You boys just hanging out" and it cuts to Patrick's gut hanging out over his waistband with a casual "yes~".
I remember that KILLED my brother and I, not just at the time but for like MONTHS afterwards. We'd get red in the face just thinking about it and the "ARE YOU READY TO GO CRAZY" "I"M ALREADY HEARING VOICES" bit. It was just a way that we could make each other totally lose it laughing at the drop of a hat. And that was nice.
That episode was also one of those rare times (if not the only time) where Krabs was genuinely not into money and showed no sign of greed or cheapness. He wanted to "feel young again" instead of his usual "make money," which is not only really interesting, also relatable. Something most (if not all) modern SpongeBob episodes fail at is being relatable to the audience. The episode is relatable because of humans aging and "losing their luster" as they get older. What they once had, they lost to maturing. It was an amazing episode.
I think Spongebob is too slapstick now, when most of the show's best moments were mostly dialogue driven
Mediocre slapstick too. I love good slapstick and I'd rather rewatch old Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry cartoons.
Reef Blower
How this episode should have ended. Spongebob overhears their stories and feels guilty for causing them so much trouble and after getting in he present them with a cake and apologies for all the trouble and even makes a sweet speech about on how each of them are important apart of his life. Touched by his speech the others realized that despite him being annoying he still a good person and before they can have cake patrick barges in eats the cake making him have a extreme sugar rush breaking everything then squidward would say. "All in favor of changing the name to the starfish hating club?"
SpongeBob used to be a hand-crafted show with heart in it. The characters had personalities, the episodes were well crafted, and had a perfect mix of simple fun for kids and witty jokes for the older crowd. I think its become a cash grab completely tailored to be as mentally stimulating as possible for the attention spans of gen alpha.
No, it HAS become a cash grab.
There's a reason why I want this show to end after its fourteenth season. The show already has lots of episodes, and I might lose interest in this show like other people did if it continues to go on and on. With an episodic show like SpongeBob with barely any continuity, we'll just get the same concepts over and over again with a ridiculously large amount of episodes, but I wouldn't be surprised if Nickelodeon gives the show a fifteenth season.
I think some other good ways to save the show is for at least one of these things to happen:
-Nickelodeon hires writers that grew up on classic SpongeBob so they can try to reverse the Flanderization that happened to the main characters
-They try to have more episodes contain good(not cringy) pop culture references
-Modernization
Despite the fact that some people don't like the modern SpongeBob episodes you can't deny that the ratings are still good and shows no sign of slowing down
Not to mention, this season is (so far) the only one to not have an episode with a million viewers.
Exactly like The Simpsons.
People did think that the show was going to end in Season 8 because it was getting pretty bad, then Season 9 was a redemption arc. If the team could get some better writers, maybe they could pull the Season 9 mirace again
Imma be real here. This episode looked like writers just wanted an excuse to write some fetishy stuff into a cartoon.
I mean...Bubble Bass eating Spongebob followed by the sponge coming out of his BELLYBUTTON? That is not even funny, that's just straight up weird and uncomfortable.
Yeah, uh, I think everything in this episode except Plankton's story had some sort of fetish implied in it. Oh wait, Plankton torture with some torture against Karen too. Yeah, you're right (especially where Spongebob creeped that other boating student away), & it ain't what I came to watch Spongebob for!
Things I don’t like about the newer seasons:
SpongeBo’s personality is JUST annoying nothing like how he used to be
They made Patrick More dumbed down
They make the animation AND voice acting over the top like at 0:49 and 4:16
However the earlier seasons were nothing like this!
SpongeBob actually had personality
The animation was simple, yet good
And Patrick actually had SOME smart
Moments
Edit: and everything looks too colorful😭
I think one of the reasons why they dumbed down patrick is because the fact that starfish in real life don't have brains
@@texasroze2371 SpongeBob doesn’t have to be realistically accurate 24/7. Plankton being afraid of Pearl because she’s a whale makes sense and was a good moment of how whales actually eat plankton IRL. But making Patrick absolutely brain dead just because IRL Starfish don’t have brains is a really bad example of making the character accurate to their IRL counterpart.
I agree with everything you said!💯
yeah man season 6 was better
the colorful part isnt bad since the show was supposed to look colorful
The thing about SpongeBob for me was the characters used to have common sense. Even Patrick, as dumb as he was would display some sense in his character. The episode when they thought they stole the ballon, they were sitting around a campfire and even Patrick made the point how was that possible if they were under water.
They also had a moral compass or a conscious. Like Mr. Krabs has always been greedy, but even he had his boundaries. A good example of that was when he originally sold the Krusty Krab. When he went back to work, and saw the place was being run, he chose to buy back the restaurant at the expense of being broke because he thought what the new owners were doing was morally wrong with the processed foods and hostile work environment. A good show is when characters have those boundaries that make it realistic and funny imo.
Yeah true. Patrick was dumb, but his thinking was based on logic or stupidity at a relatable level. His actions were kinda innocent too. Even though Spongebob has parents, Mr Krabs acted as a half-decent & caring parent figure to him too. They all had something that allowed them to be likeable or relatable in a good way
Easy fixes to make the stories better and more in character
Mrs. Puff: A generic episode of Spongebob actually trying earnestly to get his license but his inability to drive causes them to crash.
Plankton: Spongebobs obliviousness causes him to screw up one of Plankton's plans to steal the formula by mopping when Planktons invention moves across the Krusty Krab or a dropped patty causes it to veer off course and crash in to a wall.
Bubble Bass: A soft sequel to Pickles where every time Spongebob brings him food, Bubble Bass purposely messes with the order for kicks to get free food but Spongebob catches him in the act and feeds him a nasty patty or just reveals that he'd taped himself making the food.
All of these could be told from the perspective of the people telling the stories and dramatized to make it seem like they're all innocent victims of Spongebob being annoying or going out his way to ruin their days and you could have Spongebob listening in on this from outside Squidwards window and recalling the actual events for the sake of having him interrupt the meeting but with his inner monologue so it doesn't break the immersion of the episode and continue the blatant Flanderization of the characters.
Yeah, those ideas would keep consistency with the innocence of Spongebob & his interactions with these characters. I know errors in continuity happen all the time, but character continuity is something that cannot be altered, & ruins a character sometimes, case in point this episode, where he seems like he's doing this maliciously out of nowhere.
If I’m being completely honest, I’ve always found season 6 (a hated season) to be funnier than the newest seasons. Something about the awkwardness of it makes me laugh
Season 6 is a mix bag bit it's good (unlike Season 7)
I don't like season 6, but it's the best of the dark seasons.
@@jay0787 yeah same i don't like it either (prefer Season 7 over that Season 6)
Season 6 wasn’t great, but it sure was memorable
Season 6 is hell of a lot better than season 13
bubblebass's story sounds like something he would make up to make spongebob look bad because spongebob has never been known to be bad at his job. Squidward is suppose to be the bad employee.
Also Squidward works there! He could of said anything to prove Bubble Bass wrong or agree with what he said occurred!
@@lpscupcakesprinkles yea and knowing modern squidward he probably agree with bubblebass if he wasn't lying. Makes me miss the few times squidward used to defend spongebob actually
@@Hanako-Kun-t9b exactly! They washed the coworker “bond” they had for legit no reason
@@lpscupcakesprinkles I feel like in the earlier series they felt more like argumentive brothers now their relationship just feels bitter and empty
@@Hanako-Kun-t9b They really made the show like a worse “Everybody loves Raymond” but instead of loving moments, its always bitterness.
'We don't mean spongebob any harm, we just can't stand him..."
Is this a sign that the crew is getting sick of the show?
Yes
Said by the ones who:
- destroyed his confidence for kicks (Bubble Bass, Season 1)
- signed him up for a demolition derby to get him killed (Mrs. Puff, Season 8)
- is a regular villain meaning EVERYONE harm and once hired a hitman to do him (and Patrick) in (Plankton, series in general and 2004 movie)
- once tried to fry him (and Patrick) (Squidward, Season 10)
This isn't SpongeBob, this is Ren and
Stimpy adult party cartoons.
My favorite episode is the one about the Reef Blower, where Squidward moves away. Can't remember the name of it, but it never fails to make me laugh
I think it was Squidville. That one was good. Really showed the side of Squidward being capable of missing the fun that often bugged him
5:25 I love how Mailman is just standing by the door frozen in place.😂
I think that while the art direction of current Spongebob is very welll animated it definitely isn't enough to back up the writing or humor of these episodes. Funny faces don't hide the fact that there isn't much nuance or story telling being provided and I agree that if this is what Spongebob had started out as it would've been left in the shadows.
I don't know maybe sometimes it's animations would become "over exaggerated"
I disagree I think the stories are fresher than ever. They are doing fun plots they haven't done before. We got a Pearl Squidward plot. He used to babysit her when she was a baby. Also the characters looked normal in this episode. SpongeBob only looked demented in Ms.Puff's fantasy.
@@icecreamhero2375 dude listen the point is the animations and story now don’t make sense and there used to be more humor that made adults laugh while being a kids show and now it’s just an over exaggeration of every single act they do if squidward burn his hand while talking to SpongeBob the story changes to squidward hurting for a good 15 seconds and tbh the animation looked better how it was before because it is nostalgic
@@hubby2283 Watch the most recent episodes. The animation is back to normal.
@@icecreamhero2375 ok dude your a lost case
“We DON’T Mean SpongeBob Any ‘Harm’, We Just Can’t STAND Him.” - The Official ‘We Hate SpongeBob’ Club Motto, A little mean-spirited but very catchy and relatable.
Considering that Ms. Puff has straight up tried to murder him, it’s pretty tame
With how Spongebob acts in a lot of the later episodes, I'd say that motto is merciful
It’s not mean spirited. They don’t like him but don’t want nothing bad to happen to him.
"is SpongeBob funny anymore"
"NO"
Well that's was pretty quick
2:34 "and squidward? He’s just squidward." 💀💀
Man, I'm not even gonna lie. This episode had so much potential to be so memorable. The concept of characters who hate SpongeBob coming together to vent about their frustrations/problems with him, is seriously a great plot idea. I'm just sad that the story sucked, and that it was extremely predictable.
Another issue that I definitely dislike the most about this episode: Why was SpongeBob a part of the episode at ALL? I mean, like, not in the flashbacks, those make sense. It would make sense for SpongeBob to obviously be in the flashbacks/stories they all tell. But SpongeBob could've easily been left out of the episode outside of the stories. They could've gone to Mrs. Puff's house, they could've gone to the Chum Bucket. Hell, they could meet up in a cabin somewhere deep in the freaking woods. But of course the writers chose Squidward's house because HAHAH LET'S DESTROY SQUIDWARD'S HOUSE FOR THE UP-TEENTH TIME.
Seriously, what the hell is that?! Anyways, yeah, episode could've been a LOT better, but these problems definitely are what ruin it.
I agree
@@TitanXecutor same
What's more annoying is yet again what did Squidward even do to deserve getting his house destroyed? Like the older episodes a lot of times something bad happened to Squidward it was Karma, like I think one of the first episodes he gets his house destroyed he basically purposefully causes SpongeBob and Patrick too hate each other and majorly regrets this and has to get them to be friends again. Granted I feel like him getting his house destroyed even tho he did the right thing in the end is a little harsh, but like I said he did at least do something pretty mean to deserve what happened to him, so it was still pretty amusing and fun to watch, also in the end he was just getting them to be friends again for himself so they'd leave him alone and not doing it for them so I guess that's sorta bad too. But anyways point is before when Squidward got punished in some sort of way, he usually kinda deserved it which often made it amusing or at least not annoying in the older episodes
@@shylar763 What's most annoying is that you would think they would've learned after season 6-7, but no
@@TitanXecutor it's seriously annoying because it just makes you find SpongeBob abysmal and like aren't you supposed to like the guy? Like I seriously remember him being very likeable in the older episodes as he was annoying at times but wasn't trying to be, he'd also sometimes feel bad in some episodes, I'm just saying SpongeBob in the old episodes was a really nice character he was just unintentionally annoying at times
The old shows were clever and even adults found themselves watching them. The new ones are way more A.D.D. and look to be geared toward much younger audience. Also SpongeBob used to be misunderstood annoying in a cute way now he's just straight up harassing everyone
I’m glad that other people are feeling the same way here.. I honestly hate the fact that Modern SpongeBob has become this maniacal, incompetent monster. I miss the old SpongeBob.
Makes the “Gone” episode feel more justified
Despite Jay’s questionable faith in HD SpongeBob at this point, I will always think it’s incredible how, before you could eat a Krabby Patty so slowly it’d take 13 years, Bubble Bass went from being the most minor of antagonists to appearing in practically every episode
A lot of episodes may be bad, but it's cool they're using old characters with frequency
I miss the days when SpongeBob had a surly, witty side. To be honest the inappropriate fanfics feel more like real SpongeBob episodes than these.
Ya Nickelodeon sucks!
My favorite episode of SpongeBob is either Band Geeks, Pizza Delivery, or Jellyfish Jam. All of them are charming and lovely. In band geeks, SpongeBob’s social awkwardness is offset by the consequences he faces for it by people calling him out. Jellyfish jam is just really fun in how optimistic and charming SpongeBob is. Pizza delivery shows both squidward and SpongeBob at their best. Both of them are layered and dynamic characters. SpongeBob has an iron will, but he’s also sensitive. Squidward is easily annoyed and grouchy, but ultimately is something of a mentor and father figure to SpongeBob, and he’s willing to defend him when he’s treated poorly by a customer. When SpongeBob is neurotic and a control freak, it doesn’t work out for him. It shouldn’t. That’s why Party Pooper Pants is funny. It’s a good episode. SpongeBob is patient but he’s not a pushover, his ability to be layered and be extremely angry and over the top is best demonstrated in “can you spare a dime”. He strangles Mr Krabs. He’s competitive, like in the employee of the month episode.
I mean, I have to ask, when you have setups for such AWESOME characters with so much personality, how the fuck could you botch a show so badly? You have rich, wonderful characters and you go out of your way to make them as insufferable as possible? Modern SpongeBob is a mess of old tropes, completely backwards characterization, and fucking NOTHING happening for an entire episode. Old SpongeBob had so many jokes in a minute. Mid to modern season SpongeBob is such a snooze fest. No tension, no comedy. Just stale. Either pull the plug or hire people with some fucking passion, because currently the writing team is jaded and asleep at the wheel. It’s really disheartening, I fucking LOVE SpongeBob.
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
In the worst episodes of this show, Spongebob, the character, seems to be portrayed like a boogeyman; a loud, destructive boogeyman that can't be escaped because plot armor. This is the only way I can justify Spongebob behaving like a fly in the Chum Bucket, the writers acknowledging that he's behaved like a boogeyman in certain episodes.
Boogey Bob
@@AJotasticGamer bobey man
It's like SpongeBob subconsciously knows where to be and when to act to keep the reputation of being a "Boogeyman". That would be kinda funny actually.
@@CCaster2000 Sounds like an episode!
This episode was the most out of character Spongebob had been portrayed. It embodies all the flanderized traits and runs loops with it. His whole motivation was made explicit through character summaries and Spongebob voicing it himself to make everyone's day better. To flip that where he unconsciously makes everyone miserable and play it to hell like a broken record is just disgraceful to his characterization. I've never seen character assassination as bad as Spongebob. It's ridiculous. And the episode could have been saved if there was an emotional apology at the end instead of Spongebob burning down Squidward's house and sneaking away. Spongebob would NEVER not take responsibility. Even Good Neighbors got that aspect of him right. Sea Man Sponge Haters Club is the worst made episode in terms of Spongebob's character. It finally killed my 20+ years of dedication.
I liked the old funny faces that they would do back then and during its updated art style period
They weren’t all over the place, they were appropriate and well thought out, and they at least looked funny for the 10 seconds they were on screen, now they are rapid fire and all over the place to the point where it just flat out lost it’s charm and humor
The old funny faces used to just be appropriate for the characters feeling defeated or melodramatic. But now these faces just seem extreme, zany, and almost like the characters just morph into them, but they don't serve any visual purpose for a scene. They're just there, like the characters are mutating every few minutes.
I like how when they described miss puff suffering because of Spongebob, they do treat her like a real person more than an anthropomorphic pufferfish
I remember this one episode of SpongeBob where SpongeBob and Patrick get some toy from a cereal box. They end up "breaking" it and crying about it. Especially SpongeBob, I remember him crying and being an absolute baby about it. So yea I realized the SpongeBob that was genuinely funny left after season 3.
My favourite would be the one on the beach where SpongeBob and Patrick have basically a war for their sandcastles. Loved that one as a kid
A season 6 episode. Modern Spongebob can be good too :)
"Modern Spongebob" and the episode is 15 years old
@@Kururuko Yeah
Same
My biggest problem is that they rely too heavily on faces, and less funny writing. Not to mention with the new art style And writing, Squidward and Mr. Krabs the more mature characters start to act on the same level as SpongeBob and Patrick sometimes. Even Sandy does it too, to the point where sometimes I can extinguish the characters from each other because that’s how bad it’s gotten.
Relying heavily on funny faces and not really good writing Really does make the show Feel more empty. Like what happened to the jokes like in mid life crustacean: SpongeBob: “are you ready to go crazy!” Patrick: “I’m already hearing voices”. Clever jokes like that make me laugh not these over done funny faces.
And that’s where I have a problem with the faces, not only because they’re unfunny, because it makes characters that were supposed to look mature look immature. It gets old so fast. In the original SpongeBob they try to balance it out with more writing jokes than just faces to make it feel fresh and and funny to see. The less you see of a funny face the more you appreciate it when you do see it.
Also funny faces back then also tied into jokes and were not random. Like this show just really forgot that it wasn’t the funny faces, it was the writing that made it funny not just the faces.
It’s like they’re really just leaning in more to the kid side of things instead of appealing to everyone. Which might be the case which is really sad because I feel like you could still have the show be successful an appeal to everything.
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le wacky faces ruined sporgs bop!!
@@flysyfy xd
I love (/s) when spongebob keeps bringing back characters but somehow not understanding them and flanderizing them, which is a pretty impressive feat considering a lot of the characters brought back or referenced didn't have much for a concrete personality in the first place.
Plus, Bubble Bass was originally a massive asshole (sorry for all the children reading this comment). So who's he to talk?
What?
I haven't watched the large majority of newer episodes, so I was legitimately shocked when I watched this video. I miss older SpongeBob, man. Now, I'm not saying that ONLY the super old SpongeBob is good, I honestly liked some of the episodes from a few years back, but now the show just isn't the same
a quick idea I had to fix the episode, What if these stories were fake versions of what happened because they don't like SpongeBob but in reality SpongeBob actually did things perfectly fine?
for Bubble Bass' he thinks his order took hours longer than it should've, but in reality the order was actually one of SpongeBob's fastest (maybe he'd write down the time it took and bubble bass thought it was in hours and not seconds causing him to make up an entire story about just how long it took)
Plankton's ruined story is about SpongeBob destroying all the technology in the Chum Bucket (including Karen) but it's a misremember of SpongeBob installing something to help Karen work faster (maybe Plankton would say something like "I just remembered a tool using tools")
Mrs. Puff thinks it was the worst wreck SpongeBob has ever caused, but it was just a written test day and SpongeBob got an A (which checks out, it's the driving he's bad at not the knowledge) (then SpongeBob would say something like "the actual test is on Thursday" and Mrs. Puff checks what day it is)
and for Squidward maybe he thinks SpongeBob ruined his best painting when he actually helped make it (then Squidward would give a backhanded compliment like "I guess you not as annoying as we all thought")
this took me 10 minutes and I have no writing practice but this still seems better than what we actually got
You know what’d make for an interesting episode? Flipping things around by having SpongeBob and Patrick not wanting to spend time with Squidward rather than the inverse which is the norm.
But how would that affect Squidward since that's all hes ever wanted
that would be the IMAGINATION episode with the box scenario. Squidward gets overly curious about what they are up to
@@shgurr you know what would work as a new concept for the series? Take this episode, but have a moral in mind of spongebob realizing that he can be too much to the people around him and actively try to be aware of their well-being.
When a fun loving comedy character turns his neighbors into the Legion of Doom something is wrong.
I think the problem in this episode is the Self awareness in it. We kind of live in the age where self awareness joke and nostalgia is crank up to 11 in media. Most of the time it come off good when it develop a connect to the world or the real world. But in this episode it feel more like exposition. Like a remind that Sponge bob make others lives miserable kinda like the Episode the play is the thing. Where squidward does nothing but put a play on how horrible life is at the Krusty krab. All the Episode is exposition on self awareness and nothing else.
I agree. Self awareness doesn’t substitute for good jokes if the joke is purely that a character is self-aware. There should be some backbone to the joke, or just use self-awareness in short doses like with the first few seasons instead of entire episode plots. And I’m getting tired of so many SpongeBob episodes having reference after reference for no reason other than nostalgia baiting. It’s so cheap and lazy at this point, just like all fifty thousand of the other terrible reboot shows on Nickelodeon that exist purely for nostalgia bait.
The Camping Episode, me and my parents love it! We watch it at least once a year to get a good laugh. My dad's personal favorite line is, "What did I do that time!? I don't know? I think he just hates you?"
Then Patrick saying "Pretend you're somebody else" will never not be funny
I just remember how older episodes were more laid-back. Like you could turn it on, and enjoy the laid back hawaiian music. I feel like all of the characters personalities were retrained, they made sure to keep the bombastic moments to a minimum.
I think they should’ve just ended the show after the movie, because the creator deliberately said he wanted to end the show off with the movie, but Nickelodeon of course had to audacity to say “No, we need more money.” Even after his death.. they went against his wishes and continued the show. Since then.. SpongeBob has really lost its flow to itself. I mean cmon, you got SpongeBob annoying squidward more than usual, which is most of the shows problem. Less fun to watch like it used to be. And overall just a headache to understand what’s going on. I know it’s a kids show but Nickelodeon shows has to have a show with characteristics, and some type of logic. (Or some story for that matter) What I’m trying to say is, Morden SpongeBob should be more like the Old SpongeBob. Not by style, but by the focus of characteristics, plot, and a certain interest to watch It. It just needs to slow down on the some of episodes. But who am I kidding, I couldn’t even write an episode of my own. But real talk, I hope they stop doing the unfunny, & make the show less annoying to watch. If you wanna have a good time watching SpongeBob, go watch the old episodes.
Also the first movie was originally planned to the series finale
That plan should have come to fruition.
S4 and 5 were really good. I don’t think the serious got consistently bad until after s9
Your not wrong. It does seem that spongebob has lost it's funny, and its because of how Nickelodeon milked the franchise to where it's no longer as good as it used to be.
They're milking the memory of better writing, though. It's bad, cringe writing.
All the unfunny dumb faces, strange cruelty, random confusing moments.. idk it's bad. It's like AI watched old episodes and generated new ones.
@IH8Cats it's an insult to children's intelligence
Band Geeks has to be my all-time favorite episode. From the funny musical jokes, to squidward getting the big win in the end, to that awesome song that should still be the superbowl half-time show.
After like season 6 or 7 I completely fell out with the show and would really only rewatch season 1-4 and the first movie. I HATED what they did to characters. Spongebob was made more annoying than endearing to cause stories for other characters, Patrick is so stupid he's always mean and disregarding of other characters, Squidward went from causing issues and getting karma to just bad things happening to him without anyone caring, Mr. Krabs would be willing to send people to prison or kill them for more money instead of money not being everything to him. There's many reasons the IQ of the world is dropping, one is how old Spongebob used to teach me new words and lessons on top of being funny, now everyone is loud and stupid for no reason other than cheap gags.
4:28 Nickelodeon has officially turned spongebob into rat fink. 🤣
It’s unrecognizable. I’m cringing so hard and just shaking my head seeing these clips. The old show was so perfect
I honestly liked this episode, I like how different characters interact, I liked how they all had something in common which is hating SpongeBob, what I think is that they are all telling each other what they have gone through all these 23 years but not being specific about which time it was, I see your side of this too because they could’ve had a good ending where the characters liked SpongeBob for a moment or something at least, but I rate this episode 7/10
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@@dudethatcouldcareless8375 satire moment
"Is spongebobs perfectionism endearing or annoying?"
Concerning. Also wow, they really reduced him to just a draw for chaos. You can't even call him a character anymore.
One of my main issues with the newer seasons has to be Patrick's personality, in the older seasons, he used to be a really great friend to spongebob, albeit a bit naive. Now he's just "generic dumb person that eats lots of food cause glutton thing". Another one of my main gripes is relying on nostalgia pandering, I'm alright with using old side characters in more episodes, but to the point where they have some sort of season 1-3 reference in every episode just seems obviously desperate now. (Fan service is good and cool, but not every episode please)
I love the references to old episodes. I hate it when they reference them and the characters don't seem to remember like in Doodle Dimension. That episode was crap.
"Is Patrick Even FUNNY Anymore?" on June 14, 2021
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"Is SpongeBob FUNNY Anymore?"
watch Tutweezy's Spongebob parodies they are more funnier than newer seasons of Spongebob LOL
I think we have to come to the conclusion that it won't be the same show it was, since new writers and staff don't have the same design sensibilities and mentality that Hillenburg & crew had. Initially it was this society with people (fish) that had depth and their own flaws, and whenever they were in an unexpected situation it was funny since they had to go beyond their character synopsis and interacted as such. They just don't have the same spirit that made me love the show as a kid, and granted the animation is really good compared, it feels empty seeing SpongeBob just be "the annoying one" when you remember him differently.
I don’t think modern SpongeBob is bad but did it really have to go on for this long. This SpongeBob really still have to be airing new episodes when people really only care about the first three seasons. Modern SpongeBob just seems mediocre to me which in my opinion in a way is worse than just being bad. Nick basically killed all of the cartoons that could’ve been as good as earlier SpongeBob. Harvey beaks and welcome to the Wayne we’re both pretty good shows with a lot of potential but they were killed and now barely anyone remembers them (especially welcome to the Wayne). The loud house isn’t even really good anymore to be honest so I’ve basically just been watching Disneys cartoons. Amphibia (i’m still in denial over the show ending) and the owl house mainly. The ghost and Molly McGee is also pretty good and I watch the new episodes whenever they come on Disney+
Isekai Disney shows always tug at my heart are they good enough for me to get emotionally broken over🗿
I'm going to be honest here the last season of SpongeBob I laughed a lot on was season 5 after that the show went downhill and got very dark and cruel at times. Although I've seen episodes from season 10 and 11 and 12 I don't think there is good as the episode that came from the first five seasons
Season one to three will honestly be my personal favourites! Back when a lot of lines were super quotable, the animation was simple and charming and they were practically just putting out hit after hit with keeping the characters super likeable and having everyone be able to enjoy it! As for the recent episodes… as beautiful as the animation looks I do feel like they need to tone back the expressions and wacky faces quite a bit! Old SpongeBob did this but it was always reserved for special moments every once in a while (which made it all the more funny when the wacky expressions appeared) but when they appear way more often in the recent ones eh…
Kinda lose they’re magic (the animation is still beautiful though and really well done) I just think they need to hold back on the slapstick a bit more, as for jokes in the recent ones they’re fine and the overall episodes are fine.. nothing incredible like the golden years but good enough! I’ll take these over season 6-8 where they had episodes like the splinter and one course meal… although season 11 had ink lemonade which wasn’t great. But yeah new SpongeBob is fine, altho gotta say… older SpongeBob is a lot more quotable and typically had better writing in general, after the first movie (which was intended as the finale) flanderization occurred.
Patrick was actually tolerable in older seasons.
" they were practically just putting out hit after hit with keeping the characters super likeable"
Party Pooper Pants and The Great Snail Race: "ARE WE A JOKE TO YOU!?!?
How would you describe season 4?
@@Omniblox season four was okay! Not as good and a bit more mediocre but could’ve been worse, C. H. Greenblatt left the staff by the end of season four sadly. Season five was meh and six, seven and eight were really bad… I consider them the middle era of the show.
@@JacksWorldToons Ah, ok Thx for your response.
I only gave up on SpongeBob ONCE and that was because my family couldn’t afford cable anymore sometime in 2011. Once we got cable again around mid 2014, I got to watch the show once more. Sure it’s changed from previous seasons, but it was still funny. The show’s visual gags are one of the few reasons why I keep coming back to it. It’s still funny from time to time.
I hate how that SpongeBob episode had him VORED himself into Bubble Bass!
"Christmas Who" and "It's a Spongebob Christmas" are holiday classics, up there with Rudolf, Home Alone and Shrek the Halls.
My personal favorite SpongeBob episode is Band Geeks, it's an all time classic and I still laugh at so many the iconic scenes from that episode. I just wish that SpongeBob still had that brilliance behind the characters that was in the first 3 seasons and the first movie. I gave up on SpongeBob after seeing disappointing and flanderized the characters have become in the latest seasons, the brand has no personality anymore and it just disappoints me.
One of my top 10
Imagine if Band Geeks was made today…SpongeBob would definitely screech into the microphone while singing to make the audience members ears pop, and ruin it even more somehow embarrassing Squidward and proving Squilliam right
@@tiamystic that'd actually be an interesting "How I'd write it" episode, Band Geeks in Modern SpongeBob format. But yeah it'd be a complete disaster
The saddest part is that this episode has such an incredible foundation for a plot to emerge. I would have never even expected these characters to have any reason to interact!
Think about how in Gone, we don’t focus on the town’s attempts to have their getaway from Spongebob, it’s the punchline of an episode using that premise to put Spongebob in charge of a puppet theatre scenario where his creativity and isolation are the main focus. We get to explore Spongebob’s perspective in a new light and his genuine distress for missing the people around him. Heck, genuine care is practically what makes Mrs. Puff’s episodes so engaging, as even in the first boating episode there was a premise. Spongebob can’t drive a boatmobile, so:
He gets Patrick to set up a headset for him so he can read boating instructions in his head, and so he gets disappointed in cheating.
Mrs. Puff boosts his self esteem by making him hall monitor, but he gets carried away by taking on misguided vigilantism until he’s a wanted felon.
... and even beyond these examples and more, Mrs. Puff is still a teacher, so we can have episodes about procrastinating an essay, resolving a fight with your best friend, ditching school and scary bullies.
You’re telling me they brought together Squidward, an apathetic adult who can’t be bothered to deal with Plankton or Bubble Bass, two characters who frequent the Krusty Krab for different reasons, and Mrs. Puff, a responsible and well-meaning adult (on paper), *AND* throw in an extra with no as of yet established character, together under one common connection, and we can’t take them somewhere together they haven’t already been individually plenty of times, except without any added context or stakes?
This stupid, unimaginative crash course in the suspension of disbelief could have been a new Pressure, half a Band Geeks, or at least a Krabby Road situation. My Leg was a success, not for the overused meme, but because they turned a background extra into an actual citizen of Bikini Bottom with occupations and a love life. Instead it’s nothing. It’s a print of an AI analyzing Spongebob gags and character synopses, creating a generic script of it, also the mailman was there.
I feel like SpongeBob just fell victim to every show that runs longer than it should: Singularity. People liked Squidward's gloomy nature, for example. As time progress and the show continued, ideas ran dry, and it became a matter of quantity over quality. The show reps looked out, since looking in obviously wasn't working, and they saw people relating to how gloomy and darkly humoured Squidward can be. So, they decided to play it up a bit. Everyone likes relatability, right? Right. However, over time, they went too far, and drained Squidward of what was the actual love of him. For his charm, his wit and sarcasm, his limits and his moments of defense for SpongeBob. That was what people actually loved, bc they made his gloomy dark humor more of a reward and appropriate setting. And the show reps failed to see it. So, Squidward reached a point of singularity, where he became solely his enraging annoyance and depressed ideations. It stopped being Squidward on his various days, good or bad, it became Squidward solely on his worst days, and no one desires that constant negativity.
To see what they see in spongebob in there perspective but Miss Puff perspective of spongebob Reminded me of that model from Creature from the Krusty Krab Game
they're both trying to reference the rat fink
3:09 at which point Spongebob annoyed Puff so much, that she started taking illegal materials?
Imagine if Mr Krabs learned about a club that Squidward and Plankton are both in
That meme about Mr Krabs declaring he should kick Squidward's butt definitely would have become canon to the show
I feel like how you talked about Spongebob having the leeway of mid episodes because of its royal fandom is comparable to that of how I view WWE nowadays. Only difference is I still watch anything WWE and wrestling in general religiously while I can't necessarily remember the last episode I actively watched and/or enjoyed for Spongebob. Writers and/or fans of content can't always rely on the "it's for kids" or the "it's for that demographic" as an excuse for repetitive episodes (which, in some cases, can be worse than even the damaging episodes) when other shows aimed for the same audiences simply provide them better.
as much as i hate to say it, spongebob just needs to be over with. i mean, we all watch the old episodes over and over again anyway with the same amount of entertainment. it’s only depressing seeing what it has become. tarnished
The new episodes aren't Spongebob anymore; its like seeing something wearing a human face when you know its not human because of how unsettling it looks.(The exaggerated faces that the characters make)
I watched a lot of episodes from the newer seasons and most of them are really good. I really love how some episodes focus on other characters besides SpongeBob.
Probably the graveyard shift or rock bottom because I just like how spooky they are, and the jokes were on point. The first Halloween special was pretty good too, for the same reasons.
Yeah, that was shock value done right. Spooky yet still innocent & stayed good-natured.
Seasons 1-3: Platinum
Seasons 4-6: Gold
Seasons 7-10: Silver
Seasons 11-13: Bronze
Agree or disagree?
id do only seasons 4 and 5 as gold, and then put 6 in with silver. the quality REALLY began declining after season 5
My favorite is band geeks,help wanted,MOST plankton episodes and not an episode but the 1st movie