He was in 3 of 4 GFs between 1996-1999 More than Johns, Daley and Fittler combined in that time. And still couldn’t get a spot in an Australian Test Squad, what a joke
@@ghi34 2 theories for that. One theory is his race. Another theory is that he had a bad attitude because he used to always claim that he wants to be the best.
@@ghi34 yeah but in a stacked Brisbane side he scored a grand total of 3 tries. So hardly a weapon, given Renouf literally equals his entire season output in this very game, and if it’s about race who’s gonna go and tell Steve Renouf and Laurie Daley that they are in fact Caucasian because if they were aboriginal as they indeed claim they’d not be picked, and of course that horrible Wendell sailor. He might play a different position but we know he wouldn’t have been picked if he was truly indigenous, and David peachy he played for New South Wales and Australia in 1997 so who’s gonna let him know that he’s actually European…… or maybe just maybe “I didn’t get picked because everyone else is racist” is the excuse of a bloke who can’t handle that in an era stacked with extremely talented 5/8s Daley, Fittler, lyons, walters, johns, Barrett off the top of my head as well as amazingly talented centres. Renouf, ettingshausen, Daley, Fittler, McGregor, coyne, smith, girdler he probably just doesn’t make the cut.
As much as I am a rugby league fan the super league competition in 1997 doesn’t count because it was a rebel league made for all the wrong reasons money and disloyalty.
Yep, except the highest paid team in history of rugby league was the 1997 parramatta eels. And turning a sport genuinely professional and profitable is hardly a wrong reason. Plus aside from many every premier for the decade prior played super league so the ARL was the cheap model league.
I feel that if the arl made a tv deal with Murdoch and ch9 1995 there would not be two competition in 1997 i guess they couldnt see the future. Only when money was handing out then the arl was handing out money
@@niksmaithy6929 a large part of the super league war was the arl gave away pay television rights in 1994 because there was no pay tv in 1994. However the deal stretched 5 years and in 1995 there was pay tv. So the arl gave away millions in rights. Plus the super league was wanting to modernise. Have night prime time grand finals, have highly paid elite athletes, move the grand final around. Instead the arl wanted to operate in the 2000s like it was 1970. The game tore itself because 1 group tried to do to much to fast, and the other group refused to do anything at all. The argument that the arl players “played for the love of the game” while super league players “greedy and money hungry” is trash the parramatta eels fielded a side that cost nearly $10,000,000 in 1997. Another thing to consider is that Brisbane had won 2 grand finals and it wasn’t until 1995 after the super league war started that Brisbane was allowed to play a finals match outside of Sydney. Even then it was at lang park not ANZ where they actually played.
@@troystaunton254 if arl said it will give more matches to broadcast on foxtel there would of been no war and eveything would of been better and thats why super league went down that way . So if the arl made a tv deal with foxtel at least 5 to 6 game per week it would be way better and still have ch 9 having games
@@niksmaithy6929 No, the ARL could see the future - they even originally wanted to go with News's offer. Kerry Packer held them to their TV contract with 9 which included PayTV rights. The ARL saw merit in a Super League but told Murdoch he'd have to wait. Murdoch spat the dummy and started poaching players as he wanted a Super League to launch his new PayTV network. The ARL had a long term plan which would see the game fully national and an eventual pathway for rationalisation of Sydney teams, but not forced or with arbitrary deadlines. The ARL emptied their coffers (that is, they went broke spending everything they had in about a year) along with support from Optus just to hold enough players to keep the ARL competition together. They weren't sitting on a mountain of money and all the BS about the players being underpaid is wrong - a falsity used by Super League to attempt to draw comparisons with World Series Cricket and justify their destruction of the game. Then after all the mess, in early 1997, Packer meets Murdoch on a yacht, signs an agreement to show Super League on Nine, they divvy it up between them - thus leaving everyone wondering why they couldn't have worked out an agreement beforehand to avoid the whole mess in the first place. The ARL, the fans and particularly loyal ARL clubs were the victims of corporate greed.
R.I.P Scomo's bowels.
1968-1997
@J G soccer will not be number one, soccer is not and never will be the greatest. soccer will eventually be overtaken.
Lockyer, langer, sailer, renoff, and Mundine. That Brisbane backline was loaded with game breakers and legends
It was after this match, in 1997, that a future Australian Prime Minister would shit his pants at the Engadine Macca's.
All great leaders shit their pants at Engadine mate... it's a shithole suburb.
Why was it on 9? Wasn't 9 with the ARL?
Channel: Nine Network
Commentators:
Ray Warren
Peter Sterling
Gary Belcher
mundine's claim to rugby league fame because this is only time he's played in a GF winning side
Still better then you !
1 more grand final than you
He was in 3 of 4 GFs between 1996-1999
More than Johns, Daley and Fittler combined in that time. And still couldn’t get a spot in an Australian Test Squad, what a joke
@@ghi34 2 theories for that. One theory is his race. Another theory is that he had a bad attitude because he used to always claim that he wants to be the best.
@@ghi34 yeah but in a stacked Brisbane side he scored a grand total of 3 tries. So hardly a weapon, given Renouf literally equals his entire season output in this very game, and if it’s about race who’s gonna go and tell Steve Renouf and Laurie Daley that they are in fact Caucasian because if they were aboriginal as they indeed claim they’d not be picked, and of course that horrible Wendell sailor. He might play a different position but we know he wouldn’t have been picked if he was truly indigenous, and David peachy he played for New South Wales and Australia in 1997 so who’s gonna let him know that he’s actually European…… or maybe just maybe “I didn’t get picked because everyone else is racist” is the excuse of a bloke who can’t handle that in an era stacked with extremely talented 5/8s Daley, Fittler, lyons, walters, johns, Barrett off the top of my head as well as amazingly talented centres. Renouf, ettingshausen, Daley, Fittler, McGregor, coyne, smith, girdler he probably just doesn’t make the cut.
The Most Famous Thing about this Grand Final Is What Happened to Scomo after it
Steve Renouf. 🔥
Funny how Warren loses the plum when he gets excited.
Why were they after Plath so violently? Does anyone know what he did or said to the Cronulla players?
He’s an antagonistic little poop.
Yeah, I’d like to know as well
@@punkrockpianistJohnny was just a mega antagonist. Guy probably did or said something different for each player.
Thanks for the u'l of the game would like to see the first bronx v manly full game of 1988 if possible
Its on NRL.com
Wierd watching back when u got points then u kicked off afterwards
As much as I am a rugby league fan the super league competition in 1997 doesn’t count because it was a rebel league made for all the wrong reasons money and disloyalty.
Yep, except the highest paid team in history of rugby league was the 1997 parramatta eels. And turning a sport genuinely professional and profitable is hardly a wrong reason. Plus aside from many every premier for the decade prior played super league so the ARL was the cheap model league.
forgot how big jersy's were,, its a jersey swingathon
Those shirt numbers for the sharks :/
That was a Super League initiative they allowed players to choose their own numbers.
Not even Harrigans big bag of slush money could stop Brisbane. he he
Super league looks 100x more professional then ARL
I feel that if the arl made a tv deal with Murdoch and ch9 1995 there would not be two competition in 1997 i guess they couldnt see the future. Only when money was handing out then the arl was handing out money
@@niksmaithy6929 a large part of the super league war was the arl gave away pay television rights in 1994 because there was no pay tv in 1994. However the deal stretched 5 years and in 1995 there was pay tv. So the arl gave away millions in rights. Plus the super league was wanting to modernise. Have night prime time grand finals, have highly paid elite athletes, move the grand final around. Instead the arl wanted to operate in the 2000s like it was 1970. The game tore itself because 1 group tried to do to much to fast, and the other group refused to do anything at all. The argument that the arl players “played for the love of the game” while super league players “greedy and money hungry” is trash the parramatta eels fielded a side that cost nearly $10,000,000 in 1997. Another thing to consider is that Brisbane had won 2 grand finals and it wasn’t until 1995 after the super league war started that Brisbane was allowed to play a finals match outside of Sydney. Even then it was at lang park not ANZ where they actually played.
@@troystaunton254 if arl said it will give more matches to broadcast on foxtel there would of been no war and eveything would of been better and thats why super league went down that way . So if the arl made a tv deal with foxtel at least 5 to 6 game per week it would be way better and still have ch 9 having games
@@niksmaithy6929 No, the ARL could see the future - they even originally wanted to go with News's offer. Kerry Packer held them to their TV contract with 9 which included PayTV rights. The ARL saw merit in a Super League but told Murdoch he'd have to wait. Murdoch spat the dummy and started poaching players as he wanted a Super League to launch his new PayTV network. The ARL had a long term plan which would see the game fully national and an eventual pathway for rationalisation of Sydney teams, but not forced or with arbitrary deadlines. The ARL emptied their coffers (that is, they went broke spending everything they had in about a year) along with support from Optus just to hold enough players to keep the ARL competition together. They weren't sitting on a mountain of money and all the BS about the players being underpaid is wrong - a falsity used by Super League to attempt to draw comparisons with World Series Cricket and justify their destruction of the game. Then after all the mess, in early 1997, Packer meets Murdoch on a yacht, signs an agreement to show Super League on Nine, they divvy it up between them - thus leaving everyone wondering why they couldn't have worked out an agreement beforehand to avoid the whole mess in the first place. The ARL, the fans and particularly loyal ARL clubs were the victims of corporate greed.
That Harrigan was just a cheating Ref.