Engine Oil: The Oil Filters, Check & Clean (3of3) | HONDA INNOVA GARAGE | WAVE | 2010
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- How to clean the oil filters: Centrifugal oil filter and Oil Strainer.
Honda INNOVA 125i MODEL 2010 - After 12,000km
Step1
Drained the oil out 0:11
Engine Oil: Oil Change: • Engine Oil: Oil Change...
Step2
Removing the covers 1:14
MAIN Covers: • Covers (1of3): MAIN Co...
HANDLEBAR: • Covers (2of3): HANDLEB...
Rear BODY covers & Grab RAIL: • Covers (3of3): Rear B...
Step3
Remove the rider's footrest assembly 1:29
An underbone motorcycle: • An underbone motorcycl...
Step4
Remove the kickstart lever 2:06
Bonus - Kickstar Lever: cleaning and grazing: • Remove The Clutch Cove...
Step5
Remove the exhaust system 2:32
Exhaust (Muffler) - removing & installation: • Exhaust (Muffler) - re...
Step6
Remove the clutch cover 4:04
Step7
Clean the Oil filter and the Oil strainer 6:00
Step8
Special installation Instructions and oil refill 8:11
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HONDA ANF 125i - OWNER'S MANUAL
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Thanks for creating such a useful, instructive and clear lesson on how to care for the Innova. You posted it over 10 years ago and it's still going strong! Thanks again.
that is my Honda Wave 125cc pgmfi ... I did all that, but will replace piston rings soon. good to watch what I have done already, makes me feel like "wow I did it right, just like this guy did"
Sizi Türkiye'den, bir 2007 innova 125 (anf 125) kullanıcısı olarak hayranlıkla izledim. Gayet güzel ve ayrıntılı bir video hazırlamışsınız. Elinize, emeğinize sağlık. Güzel ve detaylı videolarınızın devamını dilerim, iyi şanslar
Thanks👍👍👍
Very helpful video I’ve got a 2020 super cub 125 and would recommend following this as a guide to servicing as there is no in depth videos on TH-cam at this time very thorough work how it should be done, well done that man
Thank you very much
From time to time I also discover a good movies from other TH-camrs, and I add them to that list:
th-cam.com/play/PLXlwe-Wg__YYRsNvbcPoxQnETiXA6qM9s.html
Great video, very detailed and done the way a shop SHOULD do it, unfortunately most do not.
I am surprised this desighn has been around for so long, Major Job just to clean the filter!
You're almost right. 1. The test is only every 12,000Km. On examination I never found dirt that justifies that opening. When practicing it not take a lot of time, and the price is not that expensive (Three gaskets+ One oil seal). 3. Even when my bearings were faild the filter was still not dangerously clogged.
th-cam.com/video/TRqa89ePnMA/w-d-xo.html
My Conclusion (According to the manufacturer's instructions evry 12Km) Not recommended at all but possible: If you don't open, and if you did open, maybe for replace the CLUTCH PLATE BRAKE(After 39,000Km?) then clean the filters before closing.
th-cam.com/video/TM9-l3EURvE/w-d-xo.html
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling My quastion is "how often is the oil changed"? and "how much of that "gunk" that you cleaned out has criculatedd through the engin?"
@@markwarnberg9504
According to the manufacturer's instructions oil change every 4,000Km or less (6 months or less).
The little dirt caught in the filters stays in the filters and does not criculatedd freely in the engine. This is what the filters do.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling But it is not a real filter, just a screen much like the one in your cars crankcase. I wonder if anyone has done an oil test after 4000km to see just how contaminated the oil is?
There are two filters. The centrifugal is collecting fine residues, and there is the strainer. You are inventing an unusual problem that does not exist.
im glad i found this video, when i refit my clutch side casing i think i may have put the small mechanism in wrong because now the motorcycle is dificult to change gear sometimes and does not disengage the the clutch when the gear leaver is raised or lowered (without actually changing gear)
Very proffessional and analytic clean work , sure you love the what you do , keep going we need more skilled motorcycle community supporters :)
Hi Norbert
I'm glad to hear that the film was helpful to you. Now remains to hope that during cleaning gasket sealing, surface is not damaged. "Gasket Remover" SPRAY can help very much: CRC 05021 OR compatible, I'll try it next time.
I have not found in the Haynes manual, the tightening torque. I tightened the screws with the sense of a mechanic.
Be careful, do not over-tighten, because the castings made of aluminum.
Great Thanks Tamirkr. I do all service on my Innova but cleaning the oil filtre have been a challenge that I have to do but so far have not found any good description, until now. With this, I feel very comfortable. /putte
Thank you. I recommend to watching the video more than once, read all the comments. Also read my responses to other responders. In my case, I found a pretty clean filters, might not necessarily need to be cleaned at 12,000 Km. To your judgment whether to do it in time or delay for another time. good luck!
Thanks for the video mate. I was really looking for videos like this.
Hi Tamirkr,
thanks for the information!
I where very patience and careful during the cleaning gasket sealing. It took 1 hour ...but who knows...
Unfortunately I should change the brake lever assembly next summer. Than the same procedure again. Have a nice Day!
Greetings and thanks
According to a recommended treatments, need to check and clean the filters at 12 thousand kilometers. Clutch pads are supposed to hold much more, maybe 30 thousand Km before replacement. As you saw, I checked them at 06:46 and seems that there is still long lifetime.
I do not do treatments to film, I fiim only treatments to be done.
Thank you very much for uploading this video - very helpful and stripped down to the essentials, nicely done!
Thanks sir,👍🙂♥️
Thanks for the Video -it has made the job less daunting and is very very useful -
but what a faff to check an oil filter surely it could have been designed to be simple instead of having to remove half the engine to get to the filter. I like to check the filters regularly but don't want to spend half a day jumping through hoops doing it.
Thank you. Very good video
THANKS👍
Sehr sauber und gut gemacht gute Arbeit
very helpful video i fix my wave 100 on my own now
Excellent videos, thank you for posting , will you do a clutch replacement video ?
At last i did
clutch replacement video
th-cam.com/video/CcOS8y-Lgd0/w-d-xo.html
Unbelievably, Haynes have classed the ‘oil filter and strainer’ difficultly as one spanner! 🤣 As you commented below, it’s not for the faint hearted and I would not recommend any new and even intermediate amateur mechanic attempt this on their own . Even taking the clutch casing off requires some serious skill! People may disagree, but I would suggest newbies just change the oil and allow a mechanic to change and clean the filter and strainer.
Wow, thanks for the nice and detailed response. I do not know on the basis of which Haynes determine the degree of difficulty. In this case almost no special tools are needed, the hardest part is cleaning the paper gasket residues, because if you are not careful you will spoil the sealing surface. And there is the difficulty of returning the parts of the clutch mechanism back in place.
I agree with you. I so agree with you that I am extreme in the other direction, so you will not find me encouraging people to DIY motorcycle repair. The mechanical job takes a lot more previous knowledge that my videos can not cover.
P.S. Under normal conditions of use the Innova's filters hardly get dirty. The Honda asks to check them every 12,000Km, but they have no tendency to collect dirt even after 12,000Km. Their efficiency is only for large particles, so it is important to change oil in time, and use high quality oil.
This Deserve more sub
Everything is fine. TH-cam plays with the numbers, I have no control over it. What TH-cam decided that is what you and I will see. The numbers you see are fictions. I'm here because it's my hobby and I enjoing to sharing.
Congratulations for this proffesional video, very interesting information .We want more videos from you. thanks
Hi, many thanks for the great video! According to this video I was able to change the oil filter. It was a hard job...especially removing all traces of gasket from both side...and than reassembly of ball lifter and spring...its a horror...it takes about 1.5 hour.
:o(
I tilt my motorcycle more than 6.5cm...after about 10cm was I successful.
But I have an other question. How many torque should I tighten the cover screws?
Could you help me? Thanks in advance! Norbert
gabigowriel As I understand it, Innova production was stopped. Honda Cub continues to be produced in large quantities in East Asia countries. European countries should import the model Honda Wave 110 ,which stand in Euro Emission Standard Euro 2.
Not good to wait for me, I'm waiting for other video from other users, even without editing, we can learn from them a lot, so thanks to everyone who is sharing.
Here's one especially for you, not the most detailed one, but that's what you're looking for.
In TH-cam looking for: "HONDA INNOVA 125 REPAIR" (Dimitris Karampelas), Start at 5 : 18
This work has required special tools: Clucth nut 20-24mm & Clutch holding
Good luck and do not forget to put a camera on a tripod and share the video:)
Thank's. As shown in video, my filters passed 12,000 km but they do not really required an URGENT cleaning.
Plug replaced many times not because he ended his life time, it replace because it's cheap and easy to access.
The parts necessary to clean the filters are cheap, but filters are not easy to access.
Garage owners who hold their statistics might prefer not to open, and cleaning the filters maybe after 30,000 Km or so, when replacing the clutch pads? Don't rush to judge Motorcycle shops.
im looking for something like this the whole time
אומן! ככה צריך להראות מכונאי! תודה לך.
Im about to dissect my wave125 to clean its oil strainer but after watching this i think i need to leave this to the experts lol.
thanks
I stopped at a point where I looked and saw that is no need to replace pads.
I think the clutch pads should hold about 30 thousand Km. according to table treatments, cleaning filters treatment will return in 24 thousand Km. I do not especially open at 24 to reopen at 30, partly because of my filters were pretty clean after 12 Km (I do not ride in difficult conditions and unpaved roads). So when the time comes (I guess), I replaced pads and I'll clean the filters at the same time.
It's not a bad design, it's a bullet-proof motorcycle. I also felt a certain frustration. After the first treatment, I saw that it was not complicated and was only required once in 12,000 kilometers. The straineris is a multi-time strainer, but you must pay for spare parts associated with "Big-opening". The purpose of the strainer is to filter out large parts, for example: if the pads are not replaced and begin to tear apart, or metal chips in the stage running new engine for the first time. In normal use it is no tendency to get dirty.
Checked every 12,000 Km
Maybe you can check it with a borescope from the oil drain opening? Maybe a flashlight is also good enough. I'll try to check it at the next oil change..
Thanks
excelente video... es el mismo procedimiento para la honda 50cc?
Cristian Cuellar Daza Hi. According to Haynes manual No'0324, for cleaning centrifugal & gauze filters the procedure is similar. The same principles, different parts. See full details in Haynes Guide. Thanks.
tamirkr y donde puedo consegir el manual, porque lleva 10.650 km y no tiene ningun mantenimiento... porfavor te lo agradecería mucho
Cristian Cuellar Daza
Honda C50, C70 and C90 Service and Repair Manual: 1967 to 2003 (Haynes Service and Repair Manuals)
www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=Honda%20C50%2C%20C70%20and%20C90%20Service%20and%20Repair%20Manual%3A%201967%20to%202003%20%28Haynes%20Service%20and%20Repair%20Manuals%29
Thank you so much. Useful 🌸🌸🌸
Hi what website can I order honda wave 110cc engine parts from
Hey, it much depends on where you live?
Try to do google images by part number, then you will get all the options, not all of them will be available, not all stores ship worldwide, but most of them do.
motogaga.com/content/19-honda-wave-110-2010-oem-parts-catalog
What is the model year of your motorcycle?
www.bike-parts-honda.com/honda-motorcycle/110-MOTO/WAVE
Thanks for sharing bro
Waiting for more videos
Is the honda dream 100mp model 2001
Fresh bike avaliable there?
Hi, Honda-Motorcycle-Israel does not import the New Cubs models to Israel at all. I think the last "CUB" with sold here was the Innova125i model 2012 (My Innova is model 2010). The Vision model, and the PCX model are both imported regularly to Israel.
hi tamir i I found in the crankcase a pin lock washer that I can not figure out where it should be put I would like your help thanks
The "right crankcase cover" is fitted to his place with two "dowel pins". Perhaps when you pulled the cover out, one of the "dowel pins" came out and fell inside. I'm sharing with you my thoughts, maybe the reason is different.
Thank you for the reply, I look forward to more videos from you, cheers
Such treatment as I wrote, it's for professionals, or those who are already very experienced. As you describe, your assembly was not successful. In this case continued riding destroys the transmission, and worse, it can be dangerous for you. Such serviceman have a lot of patience, if you have an urgent repair, contact the garage. DIY is a hobby and like any hobby also costs money. Remember that Innova cheap enough even without we maintenance it alone.
Thanks for the comment, and good luck.
Great video very informative
sir what happen to the flow of oil from oil pump if the oil jet lost?
Thanks for the nice video...
If the oil jet is lost, the pressure of the oil will drop, and the oil will NOT reach the places it MUST to reach!!! You must complete the missing part at the Spare Parts Store. I think this is the part you are looking for:
JET, OIL, 0.8MM
11133KPH900 ?????
www.motorcyclespareparts.eu/en/honda-parts/11133kph900
bikerzbits.com/genuine-honda-spare-part-11133-kph-900.html
PLEASE check CAREFULLY that this is the part you need - 0.8????
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Thank You for answering my question 🙂
hi.. is the position of jet oil like that? just ask for sure
thank you sir for sharing
I did not understand your question. 8:54?
i mean is the jet oil hole upside down or vice versa
@@hamidzakaria2710
Yes, the direction is important!!!
It's hard to talk about directions, it's like you see in the video at
8:54
At how much miles you did this??
By the BOOK: 12,000km \ 7.5mil OR 18-MONTH (Recommend to be serviced only by your Honda dealer)
good day po.Nagpaoversize po ako drain plug..kaso after 1mon nong ng change oil ako my mga naiwan na pinag daanan ng tread..ano po pwede mangyari sa makina paps.
Hi sir. Google couldn't translate for me, I didn't understand what your question was. Maybe you try it in English? Thank you very much
The link to manual is non existant. And do u happen to know where i can buy service manual of honda wave 125i (2017) model? Thanks.
HONDA ANF 125i - OWNER'S MANUAL
docs.google.com/file/d/0BwmYWlzMWkPhemxqcHUtRXA4Yk0/edit?pli=1
Honda-Wave-Parts-Manual
drive.google.com/file/d/0B0fPe4feWkfeNmFjNWI3YjQtYzdkMy00ZjRhLWE2Y2MtYjE3YmI3NTc5NjBi/view
Honda Common Motorcycle Service Manual
docs.google.com/file/d/0B6EDVo72Y5BfNjIwYTFkNWYtODZhMS00MTYyLWFmYjYtNDFhYTYyMjEwZmEx/edit?pli=1
HAYNES - ANF Service & Repair Manual
www.amazon.co.uk/ANF125-Innova-Service-Repair-Manual/dp/1844259269/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1330845803&sr=1-1
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Thanks but it was not what I was looking for. hehe! Anyways have a good Day! :D
your video help me!thanks
Motorcycle treatment requires extensive knowledge and experience in: mechanical job, "mechanic's emotion", knowledge of the issue of safety at work, and knowledge to assemble the model correctly and avoid Assembly ended in an accident. People who know all that,they are professionals. I publish and share here, but my first duty to warn those who do not understand and think that things are simpler than they appeared.
And of course, thanks for your response.
I work in compliance with HAYNES guide.
Does anyone happens to have the service manual?
At the time there was a free link on the internet to a Grom125i engine, which is very similar engines to Innova125i. And that link was later deleted. And there's the Haynes guide. But it's been a long time since I searched, search the internet and maybe you'll find such a file to free download, usually even if you have to pay it's not expensive and it justifies the price. Haynes guide costs about 25USD? And it is worth every dollar!
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling thanks for the answer and the videos. They helped me a lot. Unfortunately i can't find a free download. As far as i searched the internet i came across only the Haynes but at prices above 50€.
@@valeyellow46_
At least right now on the Haynes website the price is £26 / 30€ for on line file, and £35 / 40€ for the printed copy? And you can search on Amazon and Ebay, and today you can also find second hand.
haynes.com/en-gb/honda-scooter/anf125-innova-scooter/2003-2012-0
And if 50€? Is this what will prevent you from purchasing? A do-it-yourself mechanics hobby is not designed to save money, like any hobby it costs money: you learn from your mistakes, you buy tools... until you manage to reach a level where you can save money it can take many years.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling I'll look at it. Thank you. I guess you're right.
Nice
I though innova maintenance was easier than a scooter but it isn't for sure! All that work just to reach oil filter? And all seals replaced only after 12000km? My sh300 is almost 40 000km and all the seals are from factory!
+farmoboy83
Keep in your mind, with the maintain cost price of variator transmission
in SH300, I buy another new Innova. Even my tires with tube, much cheaper
then yuor SH300 tires without inner tube. Never the less, I think I'm the
only one in the world that actually did that treatment, the filters were
not really dirty.
I think 99.99 percent of garages open the lid only
for the purpose of exchanging clutch pads
(In 40,000 maybe 70,000 km?).
In the oil Filters Cleaning Treatment you need to invest only in four
original gaskets that cost nothing. Only in the innova when you don't
replace the air filter, your fuel consumption jumping up till 62 km for
liter. Therefore the " INNOVA CUB" is the number one machine
+farmoboy83
When you know what you're doing, it's not that complicated. Now at 25,000 km I repeated it again. It cost me pennies. Again I found the oil filters clean. However, I see no reason to give up on this treatment.
the square mesh filter is only the "rough filter" which indeed does not get really dirty and can be manually cleaned. what most people do not know - and hence miss - is the fact that the Innnova has a genial "centrifugal oil filter", which is the triangular part with the gasket which was (correctly) cleaned with a cloth in the video as well (@ 6:32). here, the "real" dirt will collect. there are in fact no new parts needed at all to do this - but replacing its seal is of course a good idea, if you do have one handy.
Your innova will lasts for a million of kilometers !
Seems to me Step 1 would be to remove the exaust....then continue down the Step List.
It is possible, but in the end you must remove the rider's footrest and the kickstart lever, so it is better to start with them, because like this you have more accessibility to the exhaust.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling Yes I see what you mean. I do not understand why HONDA never put on an oilfilter that is easy to get at?
The CUB engine mechanics is more basic and does not include any grooves or oil passages types that could be clogging by micron parts. Honda recommends a quality semi-synthetic oil, and changing the oil every 4000 km. The oil that is spilled out at the changing process takes all the dirt with him, but it never happened that I noticed a particles or other residues in my eye. When the engine is working hard or in an environment with a lot of dust and sand, Honda recommend to advance the oil change accordingly, let's say every 1500 km. Besides, in my little experience, if the engine is working normally the filters stay clean, and if the engine is not working properly, the filters will not help, as in the situation I had and required to open the engine (engine overhaul).
It will be clarified, according to the Honda recommendation, the filters cleaning job is according to Honda schedules.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling It takes quite a few miles to build up any sludge deposits on an air cooled engin with a service time of 4000-5000 miles....½ that under hard conditions which is pretty much all typs of driving. Judging from the metal shavings the engine is made of poor material and or the lurication is not working! These little engins run HOT! with no oil cooler, to my mind this engine should use a 5-10w-40 Groupp lll Hydro-Crack (Full) Synthetic Oil with an oil change of no longer than 3000 miles.
I did not really understand what you wanted to add, the CUB engines are unusually reliable, and can easily carry 70,000 and 100,000 kilometers, before engine overhaul. In my case, the engine came damaged from the factory so aluminum chips started to fall into it and later on they also caused a total failure in the bearings, it happened after 39,000 km, but that is not the typical case.
Maybe someday I will upload a video to explaining the damage in engine that occurred in the engine case during the production stages at the factory.
Good video that.
(as in when you would pull the clutch leaver on a normal manual bike)
damn, to the garage shop then.
Like any other profession, you can find "one" who sabotages the good name of everyone.The Most garages are fair and professional.
Get a positive reviews and find to yourself a qualified mechanic that you trust on. without trust it is impossible to conduct business.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling yeah i have one that I always go for maintenance, that shop is quite good. I try to learn myself, but currently don't have time to do that. but at least I got some knowledge from you :)
@@JibHyourinmaru
The hobby of motorcycle mechanics is a hobby that needs to be progressed with gradually and patiently, and if repair is not successful you should not hesitate and should contact an authorized garage, because it is a matter of safety! You should taking care of health with protective equipment (gloves, mask, etc), no less and more than care about the success of the repair. The hobby requires a lot of knowledge, a convenient place to work, and of course suitable tools. The tools are also acquired over the time, from job to job and as needed. Investing in a basic tool box for motorcycle mechanics is not cheap. Like any hobby the goal is to have fun and not to save money. When you reach a high level only then you can talk about saving money. You mention the issue of "Time" and reaching to high level is a matter of years.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling good words! yeah and this is kinda soft skills people lack this days. everyone should know more about their motorcycle/car. I ll will try to learn the more simpler stuff like changing oil, maintain your chain. tq
@@JibHyourinmaru
Each motorcycle is delivered to the customer with a do-it-yourself guide and warnings not to try alone if there is no knowledge and ability, including an explicit recommendation to leave all jobs to the authorized garage. Not everyone has the technical skills, and others do not have the time, and it is okay to give a livelihood to authorized garages.
Even a simple job like changing the oil can not be successful and costly if you breaking the threaded at the aluminum case. Main Chain Tensioning that done carelessly can lead to serious injury. Therefore the definition of "simple jobs" can be very misleading.
HONDA ANF 125i - OWNER'S MANUAL
docs.google.com/file/d/0BwmYWlzMWkPhemxqcHUtRXA4Yk0/edit?pli=1
I had been searching for 'how to clean oil filter in 100 cc bikes'. Finally i got this today. Very helpful. Thanks a lot
this is a LOT of work just to replace the oil filter.
Yes. Fillets of two types. the centrifugal, and the strainer. But it's not that they have a tendency to get dirty, it's more important to make sure the oil is of high quality. and apply more frequently change than the usual recommendation. Let's say once every one thousand kilometers instead of once every four thousand kilometers.
@@MyINNOVAMotorcycling
I thought my mechanic friend cum owner of the motorcycle shop's son was crazy when he asked me to have my motorcycle oil change every thousand kilometers (I just keep quiet). I bought a used Honda 2018 Wave 125i from him!
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