19:40 courts begins; video interrogation evidence motion re: dividing up video to multiple days 41:33 jury arrives; Fmr Det Kimball 01:15:30 1st video interview /interrogation begins and continues throughout entire day 01:31:00 jury dismissed for break; on record objection from Defense re: questioning Kimball during video play (audio goes out for a couple minutes) 01:56:45 return from break; more defense objection about mischaracterization of video evidence 03:16:30 - 04:27:00 lunch break 05:50:00 resume from afternoon break
4:36:40 is when Michelle Troconis shifts the conversation﹠speaks badly about Jennifer Dulos solely based on Folis Dulos account-she already said she never met Jennifer but now, even after detectives tell her they know she helped him dispose, she is still holds a grudge against Jennifer﹖ wow.
Anyone who STILL thinks Troconis needs an Interpreter just has to watch 5 minutes of any of her Interrogations to see her respond without hesitation to questions by Police! She totally understands English! And notice also, how she goes on and on with giving every single (non-relevant/useless) detail of ridiculous things like taking a drink of water or if there were trees on property, etc etc which Police don’t care about and the Police interrogating her have to constantly bring her back to the question they ACTUALLY asked her! It’s a diversion tactic by Troconis … so manipulative she is!
I also think 🤔 it’s abominable that so many partners claim this of their ex……but I guess that’s the only way they ,who do the claiming think they look 👀 better in the eyes of the public. Sickening!
@@janeferguson4455 I go insane when I read that in threads all day long! Certain expressions too, it's as if they've never had an original thought. If I read another person saying, "All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve a child", I'll pull my hair out! It seems that every time some poor child is mistreated I read this one repeatedly!
But did she continue to say she saw him at 8:15am? Or did she change her story before Fotis died? That is the one thing that could put her behind bars if I were juror, that she created a fake alibi for him after the officers told her Jennifer was dead. I have not seen any evidence of her planning it with him so far though...
The amount of detail she gives is unreal. She is very concerned about every specific aspect. Example, when investigator shows pictures of property, she is upset it is an old pic and wants to give details about how it looks currently, even though he is only trying to confirm location. She states a few times how she was on her period and that is why she went to the bathroom.....and on and on. Do we really think a nut for detail like this wouldn't figure out that Fotis is dumping trash in a place she's 'never been' and throwing something down a drain on the day his wife disappears - was not involved? Her attention to detail makes it clear that she did know much more and was at the very least, complicit. I'm sure the prosecutors will be able to tie her to more than that as the trial progresses.
She's had him for two years she knew every move thought for to act like I didn't know and act like Jennifer deserved what she got or she's gone girl and believes it justified her getting murdered by the 3 of them don't forget Kent !!
There is a mother missing and presumed dead, and this woman is going into detail about squeezing fruit for juice and how she showered! Even the way she tells the story is incredibly rehearsed. She remembers her daughter called her at 12:59am.
I cannot recall case where Def Att has been allowed to interrupt the State Att questioning, object so much and question the witness, not waiting for cross examination.
I feel like Farmington has trash service and there is no innocent reason to drive all the way to Hartford to discard items in trash cans there, especially multiple ones. I can't imagine they were rummaging for bottle deposits since they were still only 5¢ at that time. Fotis and Michelle just never fathomed that these security cameras existed or that investigators would know to check them.
"Captain Objection" is at it again. Today is Thursday. "I object". It is cloudy outside. "I object". He must be getting paid by how many objections he brings up.
@@javieratoledo9262 I agree 100% and I don't speak Spanish, but I know that this woman should have had an interpreter in that room and my impression is that she had no idea what that man was capable of and was only trying to be supportive of her partner until she realized what he had done. The way the police treated her was infuriating. I feel for the family of the victim, but the answers died with that man (coward) when he took his own life.
@@javieratoledo9262 It's not the reason the defense doesn't want it shown. The reason is she is lying constantly and it shows. The defense knows her videos are self-incriminating. It would have been smart for the police to provide an interpreter but she may not have asked for one until court/trial.
She's clearly speaking English and understanding it. They even asked her if she understood. She clearly said yes. Her handwriting is also that of someone who is fluent in English
MT’s fake concern for the children of Jennifer being fit to care for them due to BPD but in the same sentence expressing no concern on the effect her actions have on the children of a married man. It does damage. My father had girlfriends in front of me while growing up and that’s something I’m still learning to unlearn and process in a healthy manner as an almost 32 yr old woman. My disdain for her kind is utter disgust. To knowingly partake in an affair in front of your kids is to surround them with evil, to cheat you have to deceive and manipulate. Satanic characteristics traits!
Yet little about the actual cheater. The one who should protect his marriage. Who knows what he told her? How many stories all of us have heard about married man saying they are separated? And btw do you know who had an affair with a married man? Jennifer Dulos!!! He was married before, got involved with Jennifer and got married like a month after…
4:39:00 Traconis describes going to a psychiatrist to ask what her condition will be if she lives a life dealing with Jennifer Dulos on the other side of it-in the event Folis is awarded spilt custody. Wow. She is sick and clearly doesn’t care at all what they did.
Two ponchos means two killers. That alone should concern her that they found them in the garbage. The bloody clothes.Her getting out of the Raptor and helping him shove the number plates down into the storm drain. This interview is full of lies. The jurors are not going to buy it.
She knew what he was planning and could have did the right thing. But instead she waited in the wings until he was done and then helped clean and cover up everything which is why she's on video tape in Hartford dumping stuff and why her handwriting is on the alibi strips. She's part of the plan she's charged accordingly
@@yogabee2222yeah, I think he told her he killed Jennifer to save his kids or that Jennifer was hiding to hurt them...and she decided to help him cover up. I haven't seen evidence that she planned it with him so far, but those plates and her statement of seeing him at 6:0 and 8:15am could be her downfall....
@@fernandaolivares7926the thing I will never understand about women like this is what did you think life would be like after that? People would just give up and never figure it out? Be a full time mum to 5! children of a man who killed their mother!? All live happily ever after? It boggles the mind
What an annoying, whingeing, wining defence. He is very unlikeable and must be getting on the jurors nerves with his constant objecting and cries of it’s not fair.
RIP JENNIFER… I hope she gets some form of justice.. the worst part is the kids. . MT is , IN THE VERY LEAST, guilty of helping to conceal a pre-meditated murder, after the fact. MINIMUM! I do believe she may be more involved & not want to admit it.. It’s just so senseless and sad. He could’ve cleaned out the account & just took off. It’s clear he doesn’t care about the kids..
If her attorney were smart - he would have talked to her - found out what she knows and then told the cops she would spill her guts for immunity or minimal sentence!! Which as long as she was only involved AFTER the killing and not part of that ... but that obviously didn't happen - Fotis is dead and now she will probably spend the rest of her life in jail..... and still no Jennifer which just breaks my heart for those 5 babies....and her Mom!
If she had nothing to hide, she should have been honest with police from day one. Why did she lie that she was taking shower with Fotis and that he was in the office...when he wasn't....
The defense attorney constantly complaining about being able to cross properly really just makes it look like he’s not flexible or skilled enough to go with the flow of a courtroom. A really bad look in my opinion.
I am shocked this judge doesn't have better hold of this court room... This defense attorney is testifying under the guise of an objection. The state also needs to ask for no speaking objections it's a huge mistake as defense council is and has repeatedly testified.
@@Kōkako-i1t I've watched tons of trials and you are absolutely right!!! That attorney on the William husel case was so absolutely insane he shouldn't be on the bench. This judge is clearly a very good one that's why I'm shocked he doesn't have a tighter hold on this defense attorney. He I'm sure has his reasons but you know the old saying...if you don't have the law argue the facts if you don't have the facts argue the law and if you don't have either ...pound the table! That's this defense attorney. This judge is definitely an intellect which is refreshing how he explains slowly and clearly each ruling.
She’s not believable just from listening to the first 5 mins of this interrogation … especially since the Cops interrogating her have said more than one already in this interrogation that she has had different versions of events!
Defense is such an annoying whiner. How many times has he said it's not fair. As I used to tell my children life is not fair & if anyone ever told you it was lied to you.
Well obviously life isn’t fair but yea our court system and trial process should be maintained to be as fair as possible to both sides. I am not siding with the defense attorney because he has been very grating but let’s all advocate for our court system to be maximally fair.
My opinion, just the fact that she was involved with a married man, and moved into another woman’s (Jennifer) and children’s home makes her not creditable. I see her as a cheater and a liar.
The poor jury having to listen to this terrible recording….it sound to me like babble! I pray they have a transcript.🙏. The disk needs cleaning up….. incredible that this is so bad in these days of technology!
notice a pattern in all suspects that testified, they only remembered details in irrelevant issues to the crime they comitted.not fooling the detectives 👍
At 4:39:00 is where I for the first Time saw Michelle as possible the person who could have encouraged Fotis to get rid of Jennifer so that her life wouldn’t be so hard on her and the kids “dealing with the ex”…. Holy smokes. There went my doubt….
@@thatcatboab Very true! They always try to get down to your level and be your understanding “friend” so to speak. Sometimes it does work and they get a full confession, usually it starts with “I didn’t mean to do it” and then they start spilling their guts.
I don't think she actually participated in the murder. She knew about the murder and didn't tell the police, by trying to protect Fotis. So, she's an accessory after the fact. And Fotis took the coward way out, and left her hanging..
She knows every detail of what happened and so does Kent the attorney friend who made a pact with FD about you kill my wife I'll kill yours and lime was a factor in the conversation what ever became of that ??
The defense attorney is literally the most pathetic defense attorney in the HISTORY of defense attorneys. He’s objecting to the reality of the prosecution exploiting the lying defendant. What a bafoon!!!!!!!
No one talks like this. Waaaay too much detail about breakfast and everything else actually, except for the garbage disposal. The detectives had to inquire more about that. Unless she has a photographic memory, she’s not believable IMO.
She's a manipulator. Talks about unnecessary details. She's saying unnecessary things deflecting from what she knows they want to know. All they want to know is the location of Jennifer and she's never going to tell. She's cruel and manipulative. Horrible people like this are everywhere these days. I don't think she has a conscience.
I wonder if Jennifer did not catch him cheating whether she would still be alive. Don't think he would have asked Jennifer for a divorce since he went so long without asking for one. He was having his cake and eating it too!
The defense attorney is so annoying, constantly interrupting the questioning of the prosecutors. I give credit to the judge for having so much patience with the defence interruptions. 😡😡😡🤮
There will be much, much more coming from the prosecution. They didn’t settle for accessory after the fact, which would be easy to prove. They must have more because otherwise they would not have gone after the conspiracy charge.
I'm not convinced she knew anything. Her may have tried to manipulate her to cover up his whereabouts the morning this happened. But I don't think she knew what she was up against.
This woman was or blindsided by anything the BF did or said , he was a lier manipulator narcissist and she just trusted and believed anything he said or did or she really did not know what he was up to ..hard to say ....sad that she probably believed who Jennifer was based on how the BF painted his ex and she did not try to look further for the other version of this missy divorce wich was Jennifer side on why she was afraid of him...
Why would she say she took a shower with him in the morning when she didn't and he was gone? She was clearly giving him a false alibi. And she slipped up in one of the the interviews and said "Fotis told me just stick to the" and then she caught herself and stopped. The detective responded to her and asked her "did he tell you to stick to the story" and she starts her word salad to try and get out of the slip up. I DO think she was a part of the crime. Maybe she didn't know before that he planned to kill Jennifer but she knew afterwards and helped him try to cover it up. I hope they have more because I think we are going to have a hung jury on this one otherwise.
well that was boring, at least it was over quick coz I couldn't understand one thing she said on the interview tape. so now the cops and courtrooms KNOW most stuff gonna go out to the world to watch, can't they invest in some better equipment?? I'm sure the TH-camrs wouldn't mind pitching in to pay for it.
-Were there really 2 showings for the weekend ? Surely FORE Group had records to confirm that... -Who did the installation of the FOR SALE signs at the FORE GROUP properties? Did they use a mechanized drill or a hand held post hole digger? Curious ... a dismembered person might fit directly into one... some soil and the sign on top and that would be the end of finding THAT evidence. So many NEW signs compared to the listing pics. Imagining him getting a sick thrill over it all ... - That "How we spent Memorial Day Weekend 2019" timeline... vs LE Timeline ... No sexy shower, no attorney FD meeting , no Call from Greece to FD... "Stick to it" Even with photos and evidence proving otherwise ? Well that ain't gonna work out for ya MT. - When MT met FD the divorce had not begun... JFD and FD died MARRIED. NOT EXs
33:50 wouldn't that be better for the defense to crossexamin the officer when he's testified to a question then changes his testimony, this is a chance to discredit him putting all his testimony under speculation
Based on this video…she doesn’t need a translator…she talks too much… I think she was fooled but I do not believe she is guilty. The prosecution needs to show me more.
I agree with part two of your comment. However, I am a speech language pathologist and linguist, and I disagree. She most certainly should have had an interpreter present. English is clearly not her first language and if the police were truly trying to obtain accurate information, then they should have provided one. Very poor practice and lots of misunderstandings and poorly interpreted information in the first interrogation.
Continuing comment..my mom came here when she was 14. Very little education in the USA. I based my comment on my experience and the fact that The defendant was here during high school and college. If that information is correct maybe the jury will find that the interpreter is her trying to gain sympathy. I understand your position. Thank you.
Not a translator in the traditional sense, but I think it would have been helpful for her to explain herself. Her attorney during the interrogations was not helpful. She had a hard time understanding some questions.
Having just finished, I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe she didn't know what had happened and just went along with Fotis in the car. She was very upset towards the end when we saw in the clip her begging the attorney. No doubt the whole dynamics were bad, but she didnt have any relationship with JD. She was also sort of helpful with locations for them to search. We shall see what tomorrow brings!
I agree! Fotis had her convinced that Jennifer was unwell mentally, which goes to show how manipulative he was. I’m hoping the prosecutors have more evidence to link her because I’m no where near convinced and I’m not even on the jury!
Allllll this money and they can’t hire a professional house cleaner??? Even worse you have your Latino girlfriend cleaning it? You can’t make this up. But Michelle did.
@@sovereignfreedom1957My response was more to the OP who thought MT might not have known. So who wore the second poncho? Why two pairs of gloves? Was it Fotis’ practice to drive from Farmington to Albany Ave in Hartford to throw away trash and shove license plates in a storm drain (after making a U turn when he saw the drain.)
I might be wrong but I feel she really was manipulated by Dulos. She probably thought he could never harm his ex because he was perfect and she (ex) was the crazy one. So she tried to protect him. I’m not totally convinced that she killed her with him or knew that he did it. She probably thought this woman is trying to get him in trouble and gave alibi. But I dunno - so conflicted
So no one is accusing her of doing the killing. We know that Fotis is the killer what she's being accused of being an accessory to planning it and cleaning up after which clearly she did do. Otherwise why would she keep changing her story?
I don't think they have evidence to show she was part of the plan to kill Jennifer, but she knew once it was done and she did help him try to cover it up. Why would she lie and give him an alibi saying they showered together in the morning? She slipped up in the first interview in the police department and said "Fotis told me to stick to the" and then she stopped herself. Fotis told her to stick to the story. She hated Jennifer because she wanted Fotis all to herself. She will never admit her involvement because her family would know what she did!
Well, two days ago, def. attny shook his finger in the face of his co-counsel and today he shook his finger in the face of the defendant. I will tell you , I was the first woman in a "man's world" profession decades ago. If Anybody had shaken their finger in my face... he would be half way across the room.. This man demonstrates NO respect for women !
They gave MT many chances to tell the truth, and she couldn't because she was part of the plan. Why when she's told the Jennifer is missing did she ask, did she die? Weird.
Because Spanish is her first language there are some things that the detective says that go right over her head. She clearly speaks and understands English but it’s the way some things or understood that’s so different between the two languages.
19:40 courts begins; video interrogation evidence motion re: dividing up video to multiple days
41:33 jury arrives; Fmr Det Kimball
01:15:30 1st video interview /interrogation begins and continues throughout entire day
01:31:00 jury dismissed for break; on record objection from Defense re: questioning Kimball during video play (audio goes out for a couple minutes)
01:56:45 return from break; more defense objection about mischaracterization of video evidence
03:16:30 - 04:27:00 lunch break
05:50:00 resume from afternoon break
Thank you I was wondering how long before court actually started
Thank you for putting the time stamps down for us!!!
@jqueen31:…..I also would like to thank you 🙏 sincerely for your heads up! 💓🇦🇺
Thank you ❤
Michelle looks so old
So very tired of listening to the Defense Attorney , He is a crybaby, constantly interrupting, disrespectful, insensitive and despicable.
He is so inept that this is the only way that he knows how to do anything !
He doesn't have anything else 😊
This Defense Attorney is insufferable!
Amen, sister (or brother) 😅
they're not even half way through the trial ...😖
4:36:40 is when Michelle Troconis shifts the conversation﹠speaks badly about Jennifer Dulos solely based on Folis Dulos account-she already said she never met Jennifer but now, even after detectives tell her they know she helped him dispose, she is still holds a grudge against Jennifer﹖ wow.
It's probably easier for Michelle Troconis to continue to blame Jennifer for all the trouble she is in, rather than the real culprit Fotis.
@@astranaut3967🎯
What else would she have to go based on if it’s not from Fotis’s word ?
Yup.
She is a sociopath just like fotis
This defense attorney should be let go! He doesn’t understand how court procedures work! I just can’t 🤬
This defense attorney sounds like it’s his first day on the job yikes
Anyone who STILL thinks Troconis needs an Interpreter just has to watch 5 minutes of any of her Interrogations to see her respond without hesitation to questions by Police! She totally understands English!
And notice also, how she goes on and on with giving every single (non-relevant/useless) detail of ridiculous things like taking a drink of water or if there were trees on property, etc etc which Police don’t care about and the Police interrogating her have to constantly bring her back to the question they ACTUALLY asked her! It’s a diversion tactic by Troconis … so manipulative she is!
It kills my how the ex husbands tells everyone that their ex wives are bipolar & crazy 🙄.
I also think 🤔 it’s abominable that so many partners claim this of their ex……but I guess that’s the only way they ,who do the claiming think they look 👀 better in the eyes of the public. Sickening!
@@catherinepalun972 And what really drives me crazy how people call EVERYBODY a narcissist these days..... The new buzz word.... absurd !
You forgot narcissistic 😅
I was thinking this.
If your with a man who days that about his ex, the truth is likely that HE is the one that is psycho and bipolar. 🤷🏼♀
@@janeferguson4455 I go insane when I read that in threads all day long! Certain expressions too, it's as if they've never had an original thought. If I read another person saying, "All children deserve parents, but not all parents deserve a child", I'll pull my hair out! It seems that every time some poor child is mistreated I read this one repeatedly!
She lied. She provided a fake alibi. She participated in an attempted coverup. Guilty.
But did she continue to say she saw him at 8:15am? Or did she change her story before Fotis died?
That is the one thing that could put her behind bars if I were juror, that she created a fake alibi for him after the officers told her Jennifer was dead.
I have not seen any evidence of her planning it with him so far though...
She took the alibi call on his phone. @@fernandaolivares7926
The amount of detail she gives is unreal. She is very concerned about every specific aspect. Example, when investigator shows pictures of property, she is upset it is an old pic and wants to give details about how it looks currently, even though he is only trying to confirm location. She states a few times how she was on her period and that is why she went to the bathroom.....and on and on. Do we really think a nut for detail like this wouldn't figure out that Fotis is dumping trash in a place she's 'never been' and throwing something down a drain on the day his wife disappears - was not involved? Her attention to detail makes it clear that she did know much more and was at the very least, complicit. I'm sure the prosecutors will be able to tie her to more than that as the trial progresses.
Don’t people who lie give the most detail? Then the lies are hard to maintain.
She's had him for two years she knew every move thought for to act like I didn't know and act like Jennifer deserved what she got or she's gone girl and believes it justified her getting murdered by the 3 of them don't forget Kent !!
its a way of deceiving the answer
There is a mother missing and presumed dead, and this woman is going into detail about squeezing fruit for juice and how she showered! Even the way she tells the story is incredibly rehearsed. She remembers her daughter called her at 12:59am.
@@juanacastillo7154 deflecting. Although deception is the objective.
I cannot recall case where Def Att has been allowed to interrupt the State Att questioning, object so much and question the witness, not waiting for cross examination.
Agree! I’ve been wondering if it’s a Connecticut thing. It’s terrible courtroom etiquette
It’s because he is trying to set the proper grounds for an appeal.
Yes I agree with you. What is going on here? Objections I’ve seen, never carry on like this guy! That’s what cross examination is for.
@@mellissaf3012 yes exactly
Judge must be fair allowing him to do all this bullsh**
Anyone else absolutely love the prosecutor’s (or assistance, the man) passive aggressive comments during arguments 😅
Yeah picked up on that, funny
When she said, I remember I drinking some water, who would remember that… she seems to be stalling and thinking of her next sentence
And I remember breathing…🫠
the judge had enough from the defence attorney.
I wonder if her other attorney would have been better.
We all have!!! 😂
I feel like Farmington has trash service and there is no innocent reason to drive all the way to Hartford to discard items in trash cans there, especially multiple ones. I can't imagine they were rummaging for bottle deposits since they were still only 5¢ at that time. Fotis and Michelle just never fathomed that these security cameras existed or that investigators would know to check them.
Criminals /narcissists always think they're smarter than everyone but I'm fact they're far from smart.
And in the sewer grate with the license plates.
"Captain Objection" is at it again. Today is Thursday. "I object". It is cloudy outside. "I object". He must be getting paid by how many objections he brings up.
Another day closer to prison, Michi.
Is she likeable? NO
Is she relatable? NO
Is she believable? NO
And that’s exactly what Jury will feel!
Why defense didn't want shown
I’m at 2:41:08 and I disagree with you.
Being Spanish my first language I hear her use of Spanish throughout and I understand the confusion
@@javieratoledo9262 I agree 100% and I don't speak Spanish, but I know that this woman should have had an interpreter in that room and my impression is that she had no idea what that man was capable of and was only trying to be supportive of her partner until she realized what he had done. The way the police treated her was infuriating. I feel for the family of the victim, but the answers died with that man (coward) when he took his own life.
@@javieratoledo9262 It's not the reason the defense doesn't want it shown. The reason is she is lying constantly and it shows. The defense knows her videos are self-incriminating. It would have been smart for the police to provide an interpreter but she may not have asked for one until court/trial.
She's clearly speaking English and understanding it. They even asked her if she understood. She clearly said yes. Her handwriting is also that of someone who is fluent in English
MT’s fake concern for the children of Jennifer being fit to care for them due to BPD but in the same sentence expressing no concern on the effect her actions have on the children of a married man. It does damage. My father had girlfriends in front of me while growing up and that’s something I’m still learning to unlearn and process in a healthy manner as an almost 32 yr old woman. My disdain for her kind is utter disgust. To knowingly partake in an affair in front of your kids is to surround them with evil, to cheat you have to deceive and manipulate. Satanic characteristics traits!
Yet little about the actual cheater. The one who should protect his marriage.
Who knows what he told her?
How many stories all of us have heard about married man saying they are separated?
And btw do you know who had an affair with a married man? Jennifer Dulos!!! He was married before, got involved with Jennifer and got married like a month after…
@javieratoledo9262 so let's blame the victim? Did Jennifer kill the other woman? NO! SHE DID NOT! THIS ISNT ABOUT CHEATING, IT'S ABOUT MURDER! FFS!
@@ChristinaBritton what?
That’s the point… Having an affair with a married man isn’t proof of murder… 🤦🏻♀️
4:39:00 Traconis describes going to a psychiatrist to ask what her condition will be if she lives a life dealing with Jennifer Dulos on the other side of it-in the event Folis is awarded spilt custody. Wow. She is sick and clearly doesn’t care at all what they did.
Two ponchos means two killers. That alone should concern her that they found them in the garbage. The bloody clothes.Her getting out of the Raptor and helping him shove the number plates down into the storm drain. This interview is full of lies. The jurors are not going to buy it.
Yup 2 ponchos. 2 gloves.
She knew what he was planning and could have did the right thing. But instead she waited in the wings until he was done and then helped clean and cover up everything which is why she's on video tape in Hartford dumping stuff and why her handwriting is on the alibi strips. She's part of the plan she's charged accordingly
@@yogabee2222yeah, I think he told her he killed Jennifer to save his kids or that Jennifer was hiding to hurt them...and she decided to help him cover up.
I haven't seen evidence that she planned it with him so far, but those plates and her statement of seeing him at 6:0 and 8:15am could be her downfall....
@@fernandaolivares7926the thing I will never understand about women like this is what did you think life would be like after that? People would just give up and never figure it out? Be a full time mum to 5! children of a man who killed their mother!? All live happily ever after? It boggles the mind
@@amandameekhael and two weapons. Screwdriver-ice pick AND razor. Two plates
Imagine being locked in a room with this defense attorney for a few hours? I would swallow my tongue just to make him stop
What an annoying, whingeing, wining defence. He is very unlikeable and must be getting on the jurors nerves with his constant objecting and cries of it’s not fair.
She’s a terrible liar.
She hardly even lies.... she just doesn't answer the question presented to her !
RIP JENNIFER… I hope she gets some form of justice.. the worst part is the kids. . MT is , IN THE VERY LEAST, guilty of helping to conceal a pre-meditated murder, after the fact. MINIMUM! I do believe she may be more involved & not want to admit it.. It’s just so senseless and sad. He could’ve cleaned out the account & just took off. It’s clear he doesn’t care about the kids..
The defense attorney is the WORST! He sounds like a toddler having a temper tantrum!
Waiting for him to start stomping his feet lol
Love the judge’s bow ties!
Oh, me too!! I always zoom in to take a closer look. The one he's wearing on this day is particularly alluring. 😍
Isn't he an absolute doll? And yes, today's tie is spectacular ❤
If her attorney were smart - he would have talked to her - found out what she knows and then told the cops she would spill her guts for immunity or minimal sentence!! Which as long as she was only involved AFTER the killing and not part of that ... but that obviously didn't happen - Fotis is dead and now she will probably spend the rest of her life in jail..... and still no Jennifer which just breaks my heart for those 5 babies....and her Mom!
I don't think the defendant or her attorney are the brightest bulbs in the box !
If she had nothing to hide, she should have been honest with police from day one. Why did she lie that she was taking shower with Fotis and that he was in the office...when he wasn't....
The defense attorney constantly complaining about being able to cross properly really just makes it look like he’s not flexible or skilled enough to go with the flow of a courtroom. A really bad look in my opinion.
Wait till DNA experts and cell phone Tower experts come in that's what will be the tell all
A lot of defenses behavior/objections etc is to be in a position to appeal a conviction at a later date.
He is whining and complaining making it take forever.
A really bad look 🤢
I am shocked this judge doesn't have better hold of this court room... This defense attorney is testifying under the guise of an objection. The state also needs to ask for no speaking objections it's a huge mistake as defense council is and has repeatedly testified.
@@Kōkako-i1t I've watched tons of trials and you are absolutely right!!! That attorney on the William husel case was so absolutely insane he shouldn't be on the bench. This judge is clearly a very good one that's why I'm shocked he doesn't have a tighter hold on this defense attorney. He I'm sure has his reasons but you know the old saying...if you don't have the law argue the facts if you don't have the facts argue the law and if you don't have either ...pound the table! That's this defense attorney. This judge is definitely an intellect which is refreshing how he explains slowly and clearly each ruling.
I agree! Despite everyone’s comments about how great this judge is, I disagree, his court is in complete disarray due to his inability to control.
She’s not believable just from listening to the first 5 mins of this interrogation … especially since the Cops interrogating her have said more than one already in this interrogation that she has had different versions of events!
She has lots of mundane details to share about her morning routine then all of the sudden…she’s not so sure…
Talks in circles and avoids direct answers to simple questions only cried when they told her Fotis was texting Jennifer to get back together smh
Word salad talking and thou protest too much about non important things . I so agree with y’all!!!
This defense attorney is absolutely exhausting. I’m sure the jury is getting even more tired of it than we are as observers.
Her lawyer not even knowing what dichotomy means is hilarious
troconis your conviction is coming soon, noore starbucks for you⚖️LIP
Its clear she is lying to safe herself from a prison cell for life . But thats where she is going !
Defense is such an annoying whiner. How many times has he said it's not fair. As I used to tell my children life is not fair & if anyone ever told you it was lied to you.
Well obviously life isn’t fair but yea our court system and trial process should be maintained to be as fair as possible to both sides. I am not siding with the defense attorney because he has been very grating but let’s all advocate for our court system to be maximally fair.
My opinion, just the fact that she was involved with a married man, and moved into another woman’s (Jennifer) and children’s home makes her not creditable. I see her as a cheater and a liar.
She wasn't cheating and lying Fotus was.
Jennifer did the same with Frotis before… He was married before.
He’s the serial cheater. Not MT
Cheating does not make you a murderer or a conspirator
The poor jury having to listen to this terrible recording….it sound to me like babble! I pray they have a transcript.🙏. The disk needs cleaning up….. incredible that this is so bad in these days of technology!
Defense asking questions / raising objections disturbing the flow of questioning by prosecutors… and the objections / questions are questionable
notice a pattern in all suspects that testified, they only remembered details in
irrelevant issues to the crime they comitted.not fooling the detectives 👍
Funny that the gas station video is almost suspiciously good quality while the police interrogation video has about 12 pixels.
At 4:39:00 is where I for the first
Time saw Michelle as possible the person who could have encouraged Fotis to get rid of Jennifer so that her life wouldn’t be so hard on her and the kids “dealing with the ex”…. Holy smokes. There went my doubt….
She never even met her. There’s no motive for her. Jennifer didn’t affect her in the least bit.
@@MissMaggie-bt4gvoh of course she did !
@@MissMaggie-bt4gv she didn’t need to meet her to believe Fotus when he said she was going to make their life together difficult.
Manafort neighbor turned over their video surveillance from 77 Mountain Spring to 80 Mountain Spring. ❤
This defense attorney never shuts up. Very ANNOYING and wasting valuable time!
Why didn’t they check the vehicles internal gps like they did in the Alex Murdock investigations? Why is this even a question still?
My first thought too!! I know it costs a lot to get a member to get investigate that data, but money probably isn’t an issue in this case.
I find it laughable when detectives tell suspect we know you are a good wo(man). BS. Do they really fall for that?
Depends on how arrogant they are.
Most that have had no deals with the law or watch court cases... probably have no idea of their tactics.x
@@thatcatboab I have not either. It’s just such a strange thing to say to someone.
@@traveltm aye.. it is a bit.😂
@@thatcatboab Very true! They always try to get down to your level and be your understanding “friend” so to speak. Sometimes it does work and they get a full confession, usually it starts with “I didn’t mean to do it” and then they start spilling their guts.
I don't think she actually participated in the murder. She knew about the murder and didn't tell the police, by trying to protect Fotis. So, she's an accessory after the fact. And Fotis took the coward way out, and left her hanging..
Oh she knew of it before too, the premed….and that is conspiracy.
She knows every detail of what happened and so does Kent the attorney friend who made a pact with FD about you kill my wife I'll kill yours and lime was a factor in the conversation what ever became of that ??
imo she knew before, was not present during the murder and help him clean the scene afterwards.
@@juanacastillo7154and dropped those plates in the sewer
That's why she's on trial conspiracy and evidence tampering
The sound quality of the video is awful I'm out.
It's insufferable. Soo hard to understand.
I listened for like an hour before realizing I didn’t make out a single thing said loll
Troconis's lawyer is annoying. This trial will take 6 months at this rate. I've never seen so many objections in my life!
Is it me but her details are very precise until she has to say anything on foluis then she it's very vague listening to her is creepy
The defense attorney is literally the most pathetic defense attorney in the HISTORY of defense attorneys. He’s objecting to the reality of the prosecution exploiting the lying defendant. What a bafoon!!!!!!!
WTH is all that high pitched clanking sound in the interview?????
No one talks like this. Waaaay too much detail about breakfast and everything else actually, except for the garbage disposal. The detectives had to inquire more about that. Unless she has a photographic memory, she’s not believable IMO.
I
Wish who ever keeps coughing would take cough syrup 🙄
So annoying
She's a manipulator. Talks about unnecessary details. She's saying unnecessary things deflecting from what she knows they want to know. All they want to know is the location of Jennifer and she's never going to tell. She's cruel and manipulative. Horrible people like this are everywhere these days. I don't think she has a conscience.
Exactly 🎯. Self absorbed! Believes what she wants to believe! Fake tears!! Not that vulnerable! Cold as ICE!
I wonder if Jennifer did not catch him cheating whether she would still be alive. Don't think he would have asked Jennifer for a divorce since he went so long without asking for one. He was having his cake and eating it too!
The defense attorney is so annoying, constantly interrupting the questioning of the prosecutors. I give credit to the judge for having so much patience with the defence interruptions. 😡😡😡🤮
There will be much, much more coming from the prosecution. They didn’t settle for accessory after the fact, which would be easy to prove.
They must have more because otherwise they would not have gone after the conspiracy charge.
Yep, that’ll come with Mawhinneys testimony.
Yeah, but that guy is trying to save his own skin… I don’t trust him.@@patriotpeasant199
Agreed
Michi was crying....😅
Which time?
At the End she broke down @@fartemisfartmallow8647
I'm not convinced she knew anything. Her may have tried to manipulate her to cover up his whereabouts the morning this happened. But I don't think she knew what she was up against.
For the first time, I got that impression, too! Realized after the fact.
The judge tho! Please come to Fort Bend,Texas and teach them your ways!
This judge rocks!!
This woman was or blindsided by anything the BF did or said , he was a lier manipulator narcissist and she just trusted and believed anything he said or did or she really did not know what he was up to ..hard to say ....sad that she probably believed who Jennifer was based on how the BF painted his ex and she did not try to look further for the other version of this missy divorce wich was Jennifer side on why she was afraid of him...
Yikes! "Stick to it"? Whoa! That was huge..
I believe she assisted in this murder, who cares when she showered or had a drink of water
Or on her period like she stated 3 times 🙄
The first time I have ever seen a defendant allowed to be on the phone during the trial ing
Her reaction to him saying Jennifer may have been in the back of the truck seemed genuine (as much as could tell from quality of this video)
Nah. She’s a pathological liar.
The interviewees interrupt continuously….and not in a helpful manner. It’s almost like they just want to hear themselves speak.
Why would she say she took a shower with him in the morning when she didn't and he was gone? She was clearly giving him a false alibi. And she slipped up in one of the the interviews and said "Fotis told me just stick to the" and then she caught herself and stopped. The detective responded to her and asked her "did he tell you to stick to the story" and she starts her word salad to try and get out of the slip up. I DO think she was a part of the crime. Maybe she didn't know before that he planned to kill Jennifer but she knew afterwards and helped him try to cover it up. I hope they have more because I think we are going to have a hung jury on this one otherwise.
Why is more than one cop asking her questions at the same time and interrupting her? Does not seem like effective interrogation of this woman.
Shes going down
well that was boring, at least it was over quick coz I couldn't understand one thing she said on the interview tape.
so now the cops and courtrooms KNOW most stuff gonna go out to the world to watch, can't they invest in some better equipment??
I'm sure the TH-camrs wouldn't mind pitching in to pay for it.
-Were there really 2 showings for the weekend ? Surely FORE Group had records to confirm that...
-Who did the installation of the FOR SALE signs at the FORE GROUP properties? Did they use a mechanized drill or a hand held post hole digger? Curious ... a dismembered person might fit directly into one... some soil and the sign on top and that would be the end of finding THAT evidence. So many NEW signs compared to the listing pics. Imagining him getting a sick thrill over it all ...
- That "How we spent Memorial Day Weekend 2019" timeline... vs LE Timeline ... No sexy shower, no attorney FD meeting , no Call from Greece to FD... "Stick to it" Even with photos and evidence proving otherwise ? Well that ain't gonna work out for ya MT.
- When MT met FD the divorce had not begun... JFD and FD died MARRIED. NOT EXs
33:50 wouldn't that be better for the defense to crossexamin the officer when he's testified to a question then changes his testimony, this is a chance to discredit him putting all his testimony under speculation
Im convinced co defense council is coughing on purpose. Where did she pick these two up auto zone?
Jon does not listen...wasting everyone's time. Arguments should make sense. Jon makes no sense. Judge overrules.
Long and winded defense 🤯
Do we know why MT needed to mention having her period for 9 days? 🤷🏼♀️
I thought she had that lawyer with grey hair?
I’ve never seen the defendant setting up their own AV equipment
What concrete evidence is there to prove she’s guilty ?
Cops 0:37
Cops
Based on this video…she doesn’t need a translator…she talks too much… I think she was fooled but I do not believe she is guilty. The prosecution needs to show me more.
Yes..I'm leaning towards 80 %hung or 20% not guilty. I hope they have more evidence on her.
I agree with part two of your comment. However, I am a speech language pathologist and linguist, and I disagree. She most certainly should have had an interpreter present. English is clearly not her first language and if the police were truly trying to obtain accurate information, then they should have provided one. Very poor practice and lots of misunderstandings and poorly interpreted information in the first interrogation.
@@kerimadsen1528 good point. I grew up with a French mother
Continuing comment..my mom came here when she was 14. Very little education in the USA. I based my comment on my experience and the fact that The defendant was here during high school and college. If that information is correct maybe the jury will find that the interpreter is her trying to gain sympathy. I understand your position. Thank you.
Not a translator in the traditional sense, but I think it would have been helpful for her to explain herself. Her attorney during the interrogations was not helpful. She had a hard time understanding some questions.
Dreadful bad quality video. Can’t understand anything.
Why the blue split screen?
Having just finished, I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe she didn't know what had happened and just went along with Fotis in the car. She was very upset towards the end when we saw in the clip her begging the attorney. No doubt the whole dynamics were bad, but she didnt have any relationship with JD. She was also sort of helpful with locations for them to search. We shall see what tomorrow brings!
I agree! Fotis had her convinced that Jennifer was unwell mentally, which goes to show how manipulative he was. I’m hoping the prosecutors have more evidence to link her because I’m no where near convinced and I’m not even on the jury!
Who wore the second bloody poncho?
She was caught on video shoving altered plates down a sewer grate…
Allllll this money and they can’t hire a professional house cleaner??? Even worse you have your Latino girlfriend cleaning it? You can’t make this up. But Michelle did.
@@sovereignfreedom1957My response was more to the OP who thought MT might not have known. So who wore the second poncho? Why two pairs of gloves? Was it Fotis’ practice to drive from Farmington to Albany Ave in Hartford to throw away trash and shove license plates in a storm drain (after making a U turn when he saw the drain.)
Defense Attorney is a clown.
This Attorney is very rude with his arguments on talking with the judge.
I might be wrong but I feel she really was manipulated by Dulos. She probably thought he could never harm his ex because he was perfect and she (ex) was the crazy one. So she tried to protect him. I’m not totally convinced that she killed her with him or knew that he did it. She probably thought this woman is trying to get him in trouble and gave alibi. But I dunno - so conflicted
So no one is accusing her of doing the killing. We know that Fotis is the killer what she's being accused of being an accessory to planning it and cleaning up after which clearly she did do. Otherwise why would she keep changing her story?
I don't think they have evidence to show she was part of the plan to kill Jennifer, but she knew once it was done and she did help him try to cover it up. Why would she lie and give him an alibi saying they showered together in the morning? She slipped up in the first interview in the police department and said "Fotis told me to stick to the" and then she stopped herself. Fotis told her to stick to the story. She hated Jennifer because she wanted Fotis all to herself. She will never admit her involvement because her family would know what she did!
Well, two days ago, def. attny shook his finger in the face of his co-counsel and today he shook his finger in the face of the defendant. I will tell you , I was the first woman in a "man's world" profession decades ago. If Anybody had shaken their finger in my face... he would be half way across the room.. This man demonstrates NO respect for women !
He takes ‘sleezeball attorney’ to a whole new level
They gave MT many chances to tell the truth, and she couldn't because she was part of the plan. Why when she's told the Jennifer is missing did she ask, did she die? Weird.
Who goes to Starbucks at 7pm?
🤣🤣
Wth does the defense atty have to object so much and then when he does the judge goes into a whole law educational speech
Oh snap this is gonna be wild
Wow! How dare you making Jennifer look like she was crazy based of what Fotus told her. 😮 she’s a liar and Guilty
Because Spanish is her first language there are some things that the detective says that go right over her head. She clearly speaks and understands English but it’s the way some things or understood that’s so different between the two languages.
She should of asked for immunity from the beginning, love makes you do crazy things 😢😢😢
since when Jennifer had a borderline personality ?
Lawyers work at all hours preparing for evidence coming in bubba