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EEVblog 1421 - Epson Dumpster Hack

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  • Dave hacks a dumpster find to power it up because of a PITA power connector. Then does some bonus PCB imaging.
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  • @danielberghout62
    @danielberghout62 2 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    The discoloring on the top of the page via the document feeder is caused by the distance between the paper and the glass varying while it should pass directly on the glass., this could be caused by the hinge not properly adjusted and the paper flapping around a bit or buckling on something. hope that helps :)

    • @picobyte
      @picobyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      May also be caused bij warn rollers skewing the paper.

    • @picobyte
      @picobyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pickup rollers are notorious to fail.

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Most likely dirt on the one roller, and the pick up roller and pad being dirty. Cloth damped with cold water wiped over them will fix that, just let it dry fully first.

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SeanBZA isopropyl alcohol is much better for cleaning any kind of rubber rollers

    • @leonkernan
      @leonkernan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So, the paper is flapping around in the breeze.

  • @gregclare
    @gregclare 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    When I saw "Dumpster Hack", I though maybe Dave was adding a remote bin opening alert to the Dumpster, to alert him whenever someone puts something new in the dumpster. LOL

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    24V isn't that unusual for a scanner (especially older ones); it's because of the fluorescent tube.

  • @billr3053
    @billr3053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I bet it was thrown out because of that particle on the underside of the glass. It must have always given a blemish on the final output. The user probably thought it was broken pixels - not understanding that the sensors are in a line and scanned across.

    • @johnsonlam
      @johnsonlam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Or maybe the power supply broken.

  • @flapjackboy
    @flapjackboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    When I was working for a PCB assembler, they had an AOI system that was essentially just an Epson flatbed scanner in a custom enclosure.

    • @leighwatkin8515
      @leighwatkin8515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Inspectoscan? Load of rubbish in my experience

    • @flapjackboy
      @flapjackboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leighwatkin8515 Nope. Wasn't them.

  • @TheIanrobot
    @TheIanrobot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    It’s amazing the amount of complex design and manufacturing work in printers that eventually ends up in the bin and considered useless.
    Like every little random bit of injection molded plastic once consumed a part of an engineers life. Even old ultra high end enterprise electronics, an absolute huge amount of work done on those boards and now considered junk.

    • @SirArghPirate
      @SirArghPirate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I wonder how large a part of the printers are thrown away only because of shitty drivers.

    • @ianc4901
      @ianc4901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It says a lot about the world we live in especially when you think of people making obscene amounts of money for throwaway video clips that take no time or effort to create !
      Value is very difficult to measure these days !

    • @redsquirrelftw
      @redsquirrelftw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's pretty crazy really. I find they build everything to have such a short service life now days too. The amount of work that goes into it and you're lucky for a product line to last more than 5 years.

    • @uK8cvPAq
      @uK8cvPAq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SirArghPirate And the rip off ink.

    • @ef3675
      @ef3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It becomes almost ironical when you factor in how the core technology hasn't moved an inch, only the marketing side to trick people into buying the newer model

  • @BloodAsp
    @BloodAsp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite scanner feature is to rapid scan, it shows you the low res picture, you can put a box around what you actually want scanned in super high definition, and it rapids to that location, scans it in high quality, and then homes the head. It was a beauty!

  • @beefchicken
    @beefchicken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    If the scanner has a contact image sensor (CIS) as most do these days, it will have terrible depth of field, something in the range of a couple millimetres. If you want to scan things like PCBs you will want a scanner based on a CCD.
    After further watching, this appears to be a CCD unit. Nice.

    • @soupisgoodfood42
      @soupisgoodfood42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup. I always keep an eye out for old USB ones with a deep bed.

  • @OldCurmudgeon3DP
    @OldCurmudgeon3DP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It sucks when the local recycling attendant busts you for trying to unrecycle items from an "e-waste" bin. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤬

  • @OneBiOzZ
    @OneBiOzZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I thought this video was about cutting a hole in the bottom of the dumpster and just letting everything feed down in to your bunker

  • @rupertkingsley
    @rupertkingsley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thought to myself ‘he’s added mains power to a dumpster!!’

    • @DjResR
      @DjResR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was also expecting an automatic lid opener or something._

  • @neverson42
    @neverson42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Just strip down a piece of coax cable and jam it in the hole. I bet the center conductor is about the right size to fit in there... then you just twist up the shielding to make the other conductor. Done deal! What could go wrong?! LOL

    • @666Tomato666
      @666Tomato666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      connectors from the photonicinduction school

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is what I was thinking also, seems about the right size for it.

    • @vgamesx1
      @vgamesx1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Since it's only soldered in by a couple pins, I would've taken the extra effort to disassemble it and replace that random crap connector with a normal barrel jack.

    • @firesurfer
      @firesurfer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vgamesx1 That's the ticket. Why bother with butchering it.
      Just swap in a standard jack. Probably take less than 5 mins.

  • @f1addict
    @f1addict 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Power Pack for my Epson V600 Photo Scanner died after only a year and I found like you, 'NONE' of my collection of plugs would fit it. I ended up buying a cheap 24v laptop charger and cut off the original epson plug and spliced it in. Works like a charm and has not given me any trouble in 10 years since.

  • @Birdman_in_CLE
    @Birdman_in_CLE 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have one and lost the power supply when I moved. 4 months later I ended up on Amazon buying a new one. Two days after getting it in the mail, I found the original.

  • @Vbeletronico
    @Vbeletronico 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, you went full medieval on the plugpack entry. I love it!
    Great tip on scanners for reverse engineering. Will use this more often!

  • @stevek8547
    @stevek8547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Dave, some rubber rejuvenator cleaner on those pickup rollers and pads on the doc pickup assy will bring up all the rubber components like new again, as for the guide rail under the glass, some silicone oil lightly placed on that rail will make glide smoothly.
    Good video
    Steve K

  • @YodaWhat
    @YodaWhat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pro Tip: Sometimes when scanning 2-sided pages, the opposite side will show through. In that case it is best to put a *flat black backing* between the page and the scanner lid.

  • @marcdraco2189
    @marcdraco2189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice little scanner. A mate of mine had one and it went the same way! I wish I'd "saved" it.

  • @mingiasi
    @mingiasi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that powerbrick it needs is probably the reason why it got binned

  • @heyallenify
    @heyallenify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have this exact scanner sitting next to my desk and use it multiple times daily.

  • @analogMensch
    @analogMensch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like one of these older Compaq style jacks, I still have a lot of cutted cords of these in my collection.
    And it seems that we have a similar colection of adapter plugs in our collections. I got mine from these cheap ass multi voltage laptop PSUs. Just cutted of the cable, got rid of the PSU and added some banana plugs to the open cable end.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Same connector ahows up in a lot of places now, including digital decoders, and of course Lenovo Laptops of the more modern generations. Printers as well use them, mostly HP/Canon and Epson, though the printers tend to use a 32 to 36V supply rail.

  • @cambridgemart2075
    @cambridgemart2075 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The reason that corner comes off to expose the connectors is that the scanner is probably also integrated into a multi-function device and that is where the cables would be fed through.

  • @nigeljohnson9820
    @nigeljohnson9820 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I suspect the dumpster will be full of computer peripherals in the near future, as a result of the release of windows 11.

  • @DrWakey
    @DrWakey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Daaamn, fine find Dave!
    I wish we would find such things in European dumpsters.
    99% trash here, as people even try to sell the broken stuff on ebay or fleemarket sites (for ridiculous prices, greedy buggers).
    But with much luck occasionally a "pearl" is to be found.
    Switzerland is good for dumpster diving tho.

    • @peterjf7723
      @peterjf7723 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A friend in Reading in the UK has accumulated a good selection of kit from dumpsters.

    • @larkhill2119
      @larkhill2119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ja Ebay is really lacking in Australia in defect stuff and all overpriced. As you say Germany has tons of local gear, just watch the prices drop to one euro some are crazy for pure junk. Other problem in Australia is collection is 500km plus normally minimum.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Switzerland good for dumpster diving? Tell me where to look! I live in Switzerland and what I find is that people are diligent about bringing things to the recyclers. :(

    • @DrWakey
      @DrWakey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tookitogo I knew a guy from Bregenz who lived from dumpsterdiving in Switzerland.
      That was 8 years back, so maybe things have changed and maybe it is a regional thing.
      So in regards of the region that must have been not so far from the Austrian border.
      Anyway, he told me that the best finds are in the dumpsters of big electronics markets like MediaMarkt.
      He pulled whole functioning Laptops out of there with just the powerbrick missing etc.
      He said most stuff was stuff that was good but didn't get sold and got thrown out because of newer models.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DrWakey Oh man, if only the mediamarkt stores around here were freestanding! All the ones in this area are in shopping malls, so their dumpsters are well hidden/inaccessible. :(

  • @johnsonlam
    @johnsonlam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dave really save some cash from the dumpster diving.

  • @PrinceWesterburg
    @PrinceWesterburg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "PC Load Letter? WTF is PC Load Letter?!?!" - Office Space

  • @crazy4volvo
    @crazy4volvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    24V is very common for Epson scanners regardless of LED/CCFL . Only the small ones are designed for 13.5V.

  • @Janos0206
    @Janos0206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Very jealous!
    If they start throwing even more stuff out then the dumpster will pay for the lab's rent!

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You can't eat dumpster finds though.

  • @MendItAussie
    @MendItAussie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dave says most of the stuff he finds in the dumpster is working and probably surplus to requirements. We agree. When we rescue e-products from the recycling bins most of it is working or can be easily repaired. Do you know that under the current National Television Recycling Scheme or NTCRS all e-waste must be downcycled [shredded]? Reuse and repair is not an option as many would think is the case.
    In a submission, Mend It, Australia bought this issue to the attention of the Australian Productivity Commission [APC] in February this year. As a result the APC has made a recommendation to the Federal Govt in its draft report in July to legislate and include reuse and repair as part of the NTCRS. The final report form the APC is due in October this year.
    In the meantime we recommend that before discarding e-waste into recycling bins for shredding offer it up to others to reuse, repair, harvest parts etc. Either sell it or offer it up for free on Marketplace. Like Dave's example someone may be searching for that elusive power connector/adaptor. #AURightToRepair

  • @echelonrank3927
    @echelonrank3927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent episode Dave. Genuine aussie electro-butchery in action. I prefer to work like this when I drink. I get results. Often the correct connector is there on the desk the entire time, I was just pushing it in at the wrong angle. Good one Dave you have joined the club.

  • @han5vk
    @han5vk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    The amount of still working electronics that gets thrown out like that is just ridiculous. We will be drowning in our own e-waste for eternity.

    • @SuicideNeil
      @SuicideNeil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I had to throw away a perfectly good scanner because there were no drivers available for it when I upgraded to windows 7 from windows XP. Even then I dragged my feet and tried in vane to find a solution- by the time I gave up I couldn't even sell the damn thing or give it away as everyone else was in the same boat. Planned obsolescence ftw... :-/

    • @falxonPSN
      @falxonPSN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know. It's really quite sad.

    • @sanches2
      @sanches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used mine to expose pre-sensitized pcbs but had to change the glass to quartz glassand the leds so it was mostly the tub, the driver circuit and the mechanism left.

    • @cougarhunter33
      @cougarhunter33 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SuicideNeil Same here. Mine was a portable flatbed that was the size of a laptop and it fit perfectly in my laptop case (Canon Canoscan). Only used it about a dozen times before it went obsolete, so I never bought another.

    • @CTimmerman
      @CTimmerman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My inkjet/scanner was too expensive with the ink drying after a couple of months, so i left it atop a recycling station and upgraded to a laser printer that in hindsight should've been big enough to not manually feed paper. I scan using my phone and have an old standalone scanner in storage.

  • @rpavlik1
    @rpavlik1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Scanning pcbs is my favorite technique usually, but I often fail due to component height or pin height. Maybe if I find a freebie somewhere I'll hack it with an adjustable height and no glass, so I can "focus" on the board not the thru hole pins.
    I think my hp scanjet is a 24v thing actually. It's a huge wall wart.

  • @fredflickinger643
    @fredflickinger643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dave you lead a charmed dumpster life:)

  • @gandalf87264
    @gandalf87264 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You forgot to add a few diodes, just for good luck ;P Edited to add: Epson have been producing the TM-U220 tally roll printers and the TM-U295 cheque printers for over 30 years and they are still producing them. They produced the TM-U800 printers which hand a serial and p]parallel and serial port up to about the year 2000. They replaced it with the TM-U810 in which they added a USB port as well which they still produce today, so finding a still in production old Epson printer is quite easy. Perhaps they think the way I think: If it works, don't fix it.

  • @freddienz
    @freddienz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Epson V700 Scanner has the same P/S and connector. The engine is probably similar. Excellent scanners.

  • @Ghozer
    @Ghozer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I saw at least two of those DC connectors that 'should' have fit.... it's pretty much the same as most HP laptops, and I know for sure you had at least two connectors for those as I use them regularly and recognized them ;)

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, that's what you think until you actually try them all...

    • @jaxjackson4100
      @jaxjackson4100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was guessing more the old style Compaq laptop. Been a while since is did recycling.... so

    • @aaronbrandenburg2441
      @aaronbrandenburg2441 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EEVblog hey Dave Jones!
      I noticed the strips of the adapters probably all was the same input jacks on the inputs.
      are the adapters I can't think of the size but that's not important at this time.
      But for people out there that are looking to adapt something from that same common size of barrel Jack to something else !
      that is the way to go.
      Also saves the number of adapters someone would need only because of differences in the barrel jacks and other connectors.
      And just having multiple output voltages on various adapters and does help as well.
      I'm also looking for one that would have that size or the smaller that's fairly common female Barrel Jack
      To various USB connectors including micro USB mini USB and USB C.
      And female USB a.
      And also the male version of wish as well.
      This is just for versatility but there are application for this for me.
      I do have a few devices that would normally be charged by USB do a cable from USB a to the larger Barrel Jack most common size again.
      But have a 5 volt adapter more than enough output current.
      And use that for charging instead of having dedicated USB cable.
      I got a kit of those Barrel Jack adapters.
      very similar don't know if it's the same kit or not.
      It was off Amazon quite a while back.
      Not only did it come with almost all of the common connectors in use.
      It also included the USB male to Barrel plug cable which I did need for charging someone was shot anyways.
      Male to male Barrel jack cable.
      And also a raw cable with free stripped wire ends with strain relief!
      Obviously originally intended for an AC adapter!
      But that kid was an absolute gold mine.
      Worth getting for sure.
      That got me out of a few issues here and there.
      I already had wall Transformers wall packs plug packs whatever people refer to them as in their area and so on.
      As well as the occasional power brick.
      But all with the same output connector.
      Anytime I need to go to a device input that's different than that easiest way is just using adapter on the existing Barrel plug.
      He tried to sterilize on that commonly use size of barrel Jack five-point something-or-other outside diameter and when were the inside is.
      Can never remember the dimensions correctly!
      As far as I know that's probably the most common size there is in general use.
      One example is it used for LED light strips.
      I have at least for those plug adapters used all the time!
      I'll be getting a hold of most of all the chapters of the same Barrel plug as well.
      Also does anyone know of a Keystone or equivalent insert that would have the female Barrel Jack in that size not the ones that would have terminals or pushdown connections on the input to the jack.
      But a female female coupler that would fit the Keystone or the other plates.
      This is for a custom setup.
      One of the issues with the ones that have the punch down terminals or otherwise 2D Barrel Jack in the interchangeable device format Keystone or otherwise at least the ones I've seen.
      Is there a limited to a maximum current since the gauge of wire they're compatible with as a corded natural current of 1 amp which would likely not meet some of the applications I'm using it for current draw.
      Also one more thing worth having USB adapter kit.
      Basically the only adapter it really did not include was anything that work with USB C.
      Mini micro and even The elusive USB camera connector!
      And of course everything else pretty much USB that is.
      But the odd thing was at first it looked as though there were USB adapters that should not really exist.
      Such as a male to male USB a connector.
      And a female to female USB connector as well.
      And all kinds of other weird and wonderful ones as well.
      In terms of the combinations at the end that's on them.
      Later on a clicked as what the idea behind the whole kit was.
      The main idea was not just adapting one cable into another but basically so any USB cable you would have access to could be the right cable no matter what is on both ends.
      For example you could turn a USB printer cable into a USB extension.
      Same with micro or mini as well.
      Using a too- short USB printer cable right now 4 USB extension 4 antenna amplifier in entertainment center!

    • @Ghozer
      @Ghozer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jaxjackson4100 Same Difference, HP/Compaq are/were one and the same :)
      (Since they merged in around 2000)

  • @excavatoree
    @excavatoree 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Darn it, Dave. These "super elegant" repairs are simply beyond the means and ability of most people. Why don't you just hack something to make it work instead of going through such intricate, fine, delicate procedures?

  • @AshAckroyd
    @AshAckroyd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You have great dumpsters 👍

  • @nigelbarrett4936
    @nigelbarrett4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have an Epson scanner with a 24v psu - the power plug measures 6mm outer and roughly 4mm inner, the centre pin is no more than 1mm. Hard to measure.

    • @gregblumenthal4730
      @gregblumenthal4730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'd make a scan of the end of the barrel to measure the center pin, but the scanner never seems to work when I try

  • @motionsick
    @motionsick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this on a 50" TV I pulled out of the dumpster. Have to hit it every now and then like granny's old wooden tv. The power relay will start to cycle on its own. 😆 Other than that its works like new. 😆

  • @d0rk750
    @d0rk750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always figured a flatbed scanner would be a decent alternative to clives tupperware lightbox.

  • @bsvenss2
    @bsvenss2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    06:47 The infamous _The 8-Bit Guy_ solution to every problem.

  • @donmoore7785
    @donmoore7785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The DC input would seem to be consistent with the low height of the body - a consequence of the physical design choice. Could scanning assembled PC boards cause damage to the plate? Awesome find!

    • @king4aday4aday
      @king4aday4aday 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No damage as most scanner beds are actual glass, so the hardness on it is higher than anything that would poke out of a PCB... That said, maybe some badly flowed ceramic caps or cracked mini transformer / shunt housings could theoretically scratch it

    • @Melamamoduro
      @Melamamoduro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would be hard, but if it does just get another damaged printer that also scans.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You want to be careful not to scratch the glass. Never happend to me yet, but I imagine it's possible.

    • @rpavlik1
      @rpavlik1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The height of pins sometimes is a pain for image quality though

  • @HaseebElectronics
    @HaseebElectronics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow it is superb hack, thanks for sharing a great review and modification to the power connector. wow it is scanning. awesome

  • @em0_tion
    @em0_tion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    From your videos I get the feeling that I'd be more successful in life if I just moved to Australia and started from the bottom as a homeless dumpster diving DIY enthusiast. 👀😀
    Here's an idea - open it up, remove that pesky jack and solder a more commonly used one in its place?

  • @wizkid723
    @wizkid723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    EPSON is common for this 24V adapter, their scanners and printers. Very Common for ESPON, but no one else.

  • @harryshector
    @harryshector 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hate proprietary connectors. Manufacturers should be legally required to standardize these things. Then it might not be necessary to maintain a stable of 12 million adapters…

    • @gblargg
      @gblargg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bet people would use the wrong adapter, damage the scanner, then send it back under warranty for repair. The proliferation of DC plugs mirrors that of bolt heads for opening products.

    • @asicdathens
      @asicdathens 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      European Union is heading that direction starting with mobile phones.

    • @teardowndan5364
      @teardowndan5364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only problem with standardizing connectors is that you also need to standardize voltages and currents, otherwise your adapter hell is still about as bad as it used to be. On the plus side, you can relatively easily make your own barrel connector with a strip of copper for the barrel, an appropriate size pin (ex.: brass nail) for the center and resin to hold everything together.

    • @harryshector
      @harryshector 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Such standardization was done with mains connectors (admittedly, not international standards) decades ago. I don’t really see a problem with standardizing voltages and current ranges, myself. I can hear the claims by manufacturers already… “You’ll ‘stifle innovation!’ To which I say “Bravo!!” I really don’t see the need for “innovation” in such mundane areas of design. Find what works, what is most practical. and standardize on it. It’s an engineering question. It shouldn’t really be that much of a challenge, once the profit incentive is removed.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it’s actually one of the JEITA standard connectors, the RC-5322.

  • @hominidaetheodosia
    @hominidaetheodosia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Carefully dismantle and desolder the connector and just bung a new one on the board for whatever PSU you’ve got at 24v :). Nice 👍🏼
    Orrrrrrrr just attack with muck outta it with the old murder death pizza wheel (aka Dremel) yuppers even better and entertaining!

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It was easier, and more fun :-D

  • @tookitogo
    @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That power jack looks like a standard RC-5322 jack, one of the JEITA standards.

  • @Arek_R.
    @Arek_R. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn I never thought of using a scanner to photograph PCBs.
    You've got great photo effortlessy, whereas I usually need to set up some light box and it's still not perfect.

  • @benbaselet2026
    @benbaselet2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Early 2000s we had a decent scanner at work with some depth of field, it was very, very good for inspecting PCBs and whatnots. Some models will only show sharp images for stuff that is right up against the glass tho. Can't remember what the different technologies were called. I could even scan my face planted against the glass with this one for a "nice" desktop background for gags :-)

    • @87solarsky
      @87solarsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      C.I.S. vs. C.C.D.

  • @WPGinfo
    @WPGinfo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanna dumpster like yours! Great hack!

  • @Tedybear315
    @Tedybear315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have to wonder if Dave's neighbors in that office building are leaving him 'Easter egg's' in the trash room as a way of saying "Hello!"

    • @sanches2
      @sanches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was thinking the same.... or if you want a product showcased you leave it in Dave's building dumpster room :)

    • @robbieaussievic
      @robbieaussievic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..... Australian Tax Office, listening device installed.

  • @gregorymccoy6797
    @gregorymccoy6797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great find.

  • @AnWe79
    @AnWe79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice catch!
    I bet the little window was for adding the feeder to a base model that didn't come with it.
    Looks like a standard nema size stepper, so that could have been repurposed even if the electronics were dead, and some of the mechanics in scanners are nice too if you have a use for them.
    I built a UV exposure box out of an old scanner, the glass likely blocks some UV but it works ok even if takes a while.

  • @RodrigoPhysicist
    @RodrigoPhysicist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When i saw EEV Dumpster Hack i've thought of another channel... damn it, I've been fooled :D

    • @akhurash
      @akhurash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here!!

    • @pascha4527
      @pascha4527 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm one of those new here, what channel are you refering to? :)))

    • @Rob2
      @Rob2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes he surely should have put this on the eevdumpsterhack channel that so sorely lacks content...

  • @Antony_Jenner
    @Antony_Jenner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big Clive would like that scanner.

  • @reasonablebeing5392
    @reasonablebeing5392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great find! So what if it is not blindingly fast. It can operate unattended while you do other things. Another very useful device rescued from landfill!

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, the speed does not bother me.

  • @violentsense
    @violentsense 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For printed circuit boards and other items that are not flat, unlike paper, a scanner with a CCD sensor is needed. Like EPSON GT-1500.
    Otherwise, the depth of field will be insufficient.

  • @mUbase
    @mUbase 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Power supply wiring bodge. "Like I bought one" ! Had me lolling. :) You can do Big Clive PCB stylee scans now!!

  • @grantm902
    @grantm902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's a special place in Hell for design engineers who use proprietary connectors

  • @cdsmith
    @cdsmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Back in the day when scanners worked through parallel ports I had one with a depth of field of maybe an inch. Could throw on a PCB with components and scan it. My last couple scanners have a depth of field of ZERO. If it isn't pressed against the glass, it won't be in focus. Disappointing.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, CCD scanner vs CIS scanner. The former have massively more depth of field.

  • @djfaber
    @djfaber 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    epson sheet feeders kind of suck in general. I've owned a few of their printers/scanners over the years and _NONE_ of them ever pulled the sheets in straight. They were always various degrees off, every time.

  • @theonetrueanthonylong1843
    @theonetrueanthonylong1843 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you ever get served a lawsuit for partial fault of resultant death by bludgeoning from fallen electronics, Its from my family. Sorey in advance. And thanks for feeding the addiction and supporting me in my construction of a trashed pcb fort Dave.

  • @storminmormon8195
    @storminmormon8195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I see the troll doll is holding down the fort.

  • @artursmihelsons415
    @artursmihelsons415 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great dumpster find! 👍
    I will did, probably, the same - just soldering wires directly.. 😂
    Epson MFP scanner software had option "Preview", after that there is option to select page format and crop image. When, after that, Scan is clicked, it only scans and saves selected part.. 😉 I think, this one have similar functionality if OEM software is used..

  • @E-Box
    @E-Box 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:22 When the EEVblog's motto isn't just a saying, but the ultimate destiny even when Dave wants to go against it.

  • @unmanaged
    @unmanaged 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I repaired scanners and copiers for a long time and all of them are 24v steppers and pcb's

  • @sergeyatlanta
    @sergeyatlanta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scanning PCBs works well only with CCD scanners. LED scanners don’t have enough depth of focus for that, anything out of the glass plane comes out blurry.

    • @crazy4volvo
      @crazy4volvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CCD is a sensor technology, LED is lightning technology. Both have nothing to do with depth of field. The only thing that matters is the design of optical path (a short one with a lot of microlenses or a long one with single lens).

    • @sergeyatlanta
      @sergeyatlanta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crazy4volvo right, I meant that in general, CCD ones will have an CFL light and system of mirrors and real lenses, that gives it good depth of field. While LED lit ones will have an array of photo sensors (CIS) with microlenses and very shallow depth of field.

    • @crazy4volvo
      @crazy4volvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sergeyatlanta Sergey, please don't go too far...neither CCD implies CFL light, nor LED implies CIS (which is mostly afaik CCD as well). While probably there are no CIS scanners with CFL lamp (due to miniaturisation and energy consumption), a lot of modern LED scanners use true optical path design, like Epson v850 pro, v600 photo etc.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep. I have a 13 year old multifunction printer that uses an LED-illuminated CCD scanner, just like the one in the video. AFAIK, all scanners have been LED-illuminated for at least 15 years or so. (Heck, some scanners even used LED illumination before white LEDs were any good, instead using discrete RGB LEDs that were strobed in sequence, allowing the use of a cheaper monochrome CCD!)

    • @crazy4volvo
      @crazy4volvo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tookitogo I would say "10 years or so". Epson released expression 11000 xl pro in 2013 and it was still cfl.

  • @EsotericArctos
    @EsotericArctos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power connector looks like the same type the older HP laptops used. Not hard to find :).

  • @hgbugalou
    @hgbugalou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These type of scanners are so expensive and old but new because there are a handful of these businesses use with applications written for specific models. Were I use to work we had a home grown ERM app that only worked with 2 models of scanners. Why this is when Windows has an open driver model for scanners I have no idea, but it is a thing.

  • @cburgess5294
    @cburgess5294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have we ever had someone respond in the comments to say "I put that in the dumpster!"?

    • @sanches2
      @sanches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk, but it would be cool :)

  • @onjofilms
    @onjofilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scanning? There's a app for that.

  • @undefinednan7096
    @undefinednan7096 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The title reminds me of the EEVdumpsterHack joke channel you and Ben Heck made for April fools 2018

  • @AB-zw5xx
    @AB-zw5xx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can put "like" large books in there.

  • @deaxes
    @deaxes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm disappointed - I expected you to keep the plastic chassis intact, take out the board, desolder the connector and put on a new connector on with a powerbrick you have that's 24 volt

    • @CTimmerman
      @CTimmerman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's more work than buying a fitting plug online.

  • @Horrordelic
    @Horrordelic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Norway it is illegal now to dumpster dive in the electronic waste :(

    • @Makatea
      @Makatea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pretty much anything in life worth doing is either illegal, immoral or makes you fat ;-)

    • @Horrordelic
      @Horrordelic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Makatea Sure, but it was legal before :)

    • @Makatea
      @Makatea 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Horrordelic Perhaps you could strike a deal by paying what they get from their recycler per kg?

  • @MrV1NC3N7V3G4
    @MrV1NC3N7V3G4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an old 24v Epson power supply but it would cost more to ship it to Australia then its worth.

  • @breakalegfpv9532
    @breakalegfpv9532 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am praying for Australia, keep safe.

  • @aszi77
    @aszi77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The plug size is supposed to be 6.5x4.4 mm.

  • @MatthewSuffidy
    @MatthewSuffidy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have removed the board on the bottom and changed the power socket with another one more normal instead of boring a hole in the case like that. Then hopefully have a 24VDC 1.3Amp supply for the socket, or splice an adapter to a known fitting end. I have a German sort of adsl router thing I use an apple supply I for I found in the dumpster that runs openwrt. I got the router for $10. The plug fits but is VERY tight so I hope all will end well.

  • @sanches2
    @sanches2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, the way you butchered this connector... :O

  • @LeoDDJ
    @LeoDDJ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shucks that thing is slow. And that from a >400 quid scanner.
    That's not what I expected at all. I'm used to scanners being at least 3 times the speed in that price range

  • @Artopiumcom
    @Artopiumcom 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes I wonder if the people who throw these things out know it will end up on the EEVblog. It probably goes something like, "well, we don't need this anymore so let's create an ad on eBay... OR, we can put it in the dumpster and see what Dave does with it!"

  • @2soldierman2
    @2soldierman2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Power it off a bench supply and if it works remove the PCB jack and put a normal female barrel on it with a short lead hanging out of the hole.

  • @RickTheGeek
    @RickTheGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 24 volts input is something I’ve seen on scanners, if I recall it’s to drive the motors inside. I’d be tempted to modify the input to use a more common connector, or even screw terminals or binding posts

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Printers have motors too, but they usually work with 12V. The 24V is likely for the fluorescent tube, particularly on older models.

    • @RickTheGeek
      @RickTheGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-vn7ce5ig1z that too! Most of the scanners I saw were the all in one units and those usually have a mains power supply internal so as to get whatever voltage they needed

    • @adlerweb
      @adlerweb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jepp - also most Fujitsu-Scanners with ADF work on19-24V

  • @simosagimain
    @simosagimain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if 24V is the absolute necessary supply voltage or whether the scanner would work also with something slightly different (especially on the lower side)

  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:38 The HP5100 (predecessor to the 5200) is the best printer ever developed, EVER.

    • @benbaselet2026
      @benbaselet2026 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Funny that, I've had really bad experiences with a load of HP printers over the years and there are so many milion different models it's pretty hard to tell what is what.

    • @StreuB1
      @StreuB1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@benbaselet2026 The 5100 was the engineering dept workhorse for 15 years, had an 8.5 x 11 (A-size) tray and an 11 x 17 (B-size) tray, perfect for drawings. We had it rebuilt a few times, new rollers, this and that over the years. It just never died. We finally gave it up when we went to a large Konica multifunction on lease from Impact. It was a sad day when the 5100 went bye-bye. Purchasing dept has the 5200 and its still going strong, printing PO's and buying reports daily for over a decade. It's never needed service once.

    • @MrV1NC3N7V3G4
      @MrV1NC3N7V3G4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was a fan of the Laserjet 5Si...but that was back when I serviced the II, III and 4. That 5Si was a tireless beast!

    • @AintBigAintClever
      @AintBigAintClever 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just a few minutes ago I ran off an A3 schematic on my LaserJet 5000 which has 742,000 pages on the clock.

    • @StreuB1
      @StreuB1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AintBigAintClever Keep the paper fuzz off those rollers and it'll be good for as long as they make toner cartridges for it!

  • @chaos.corner
    @chaos.corner 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are a lot of third party PSUs with the correct connector available on ebay. It seems like the connector is an Epson thing.

  • @picobyte
    @picobyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 24V probably is for the sheet feeder. It's cheaper to run that plug pack at 24V than build in the power supply or having more copper in that wire. As usual these days it also saves a lot of compliance with safety rules .

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's more likely for the fluorescent tube.

    • @picobyte
      @picobyte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-vn7ce5ig1z no it's nit.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-vn7ce5ig1z It doesn’t use a fluorescent tube. No scanner made in the last 15 years or so uses fluorescent.

  • @david-sv3kg
    @david-sv3kg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that thing is sloooooow. The adf is needed so you don't die waiting for 2 pages to scan.

  • @dlat80
    @dlat80 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good enough for Australia.

  • @DigBipper188
    @DigBipper188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing that has always bugged me about epson's ADFs is that compared to most others they are dog slow. I prefer the absolute rockets that are on machines like the Konica C658 / Develop Ineo+ 658... those things blitz through a 100 page 2-sided doc like it's nothing. I kinda wish they sold them as separate units for quicker scanning...

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My other dumpster OKI feeder is way faster.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Numerous companies sell high-speed document scanners, from home ones starting at about $400 all the way up to the kind used by commercial scanning bureaus that are designed for constant use and have feeders for thousands (!) of pages.

    • @DigBipper188
      @DigBipper188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@tookitogo I'm well aware as I have seen some of these higher end feeders in action at my job, but what I mean is, it would be nice if even the lower end ADFs, especially reverse automatic ones like the one used on the Epson WF-R5690 were faster. Try scanning at 600DPI duplex on a 5690 and you could have made several cups of tea, built a SQL database, had a family, moved to Canada and built a log cabin in the woods by the time it's made it halfway through the backside of page 3.

    • @tookitogo
      @tookitogo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DigBipper188 😂 😂
      Will your grandkids still be alive by the time it gets to page 20?

    • @DigBipper188
      @DigBipper188 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tookitogo I'm pretty sure the universe will have collapsed on itself by page 18.

  • @DaimlerSleeveValve
    @DaimlerSleeveValve 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For no apparent reason, adding a sheet feeder to a scanner results in a price hike of over 400%, no matter which brand. By the way, the GT-1500 is officially discontinued, so somebody's old stock on eBay..

    • @CTimmerman
      @CTimmerman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The reason is saving time and effort for business, which saves and earns them money.

  • @bloodyl_uk
    @bloodyl_uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 468 Aussie notes for this thing it is clearly aimed at the professional world, however I must say that once I saw the result of the PCB scan that cost deflated itself a little.
    looking super quick look at the software side I'm quite interested in it's JPEG/BMP quality and its RAW output support.
    Basically I reckon that's a sweet sensing bar, but does the rest of the kit live up to it?
    Cheers!.

    • @EEVblog
      @EEVblog  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The software look really old. Haven't even figured out how to set it to use the button on the front, doesn't seem to be an option. Maybe some other software that came with it. You'll get similar results on any scanner really, just buy a 2nd hand ebay cheapie.

  • @wjodf8067
    @wjodf8067 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yay dumpster dive love them

  • @rohanrichardson9401
    @rohanrichardson9401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    most scanners are CCD on front side and CIS on backside. but this doesnt do DS which is prob why its in the bin honestly

  • @6Diego1Diego9
    @6Diego1Diego9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    haha this guy whole living will be from the dumpster someday. super interesting though!

  • @xolox2k
    @xolox2k 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That linear thing was not CCD but LED.