I wonder if the businesses in your building look for old stuff to dump and take an internal office vote to see what they'll leave for "our local eevblog bloke" then watch teardowns of their old office equipment at some monthly office party bash.
Dells won't charge from an HP cord. There's a 1wire communications to a chip that if it doesn't detect the correct Dell chip with the wattage, it goes into slow mode and refuses to charge but will boot.
Yup I had the same problem with a Latitude. One caution, the center pin on the power adapter plug is the data pin. If you try and probe there is a high probability of shorting the center pin to to the inside sleeve which is at a high voltage. This will burn out the serial rom in the power module. Ask me how I know.
Reasons why Dave is the analogous form of Director Taika Waititi for electronics tutorial videos: 1) Every production video is based on idea and executed without script. 2) The end result is entertaining without fail. 3) Humour and emotions are always present. . . . . . n) Another day another Doug.
This laptop is barely worth more than that imo... I would consider HD2500 / HD3000 minimum for laptop, since they can decode/encode 1080p videos at least..
The key difference here: bought. A dumpster PC with no hard drive is okay, but buying one you think "just needs a hard drive" and realizing it's a brick must suck...
@@Vilvaran yes I meant to be honest I am talking the cheap end of buying but still a pain as you say when you think it's simple and something you have laying around to then have to hunt for the particular caddy and connector required
I scored a very nice i3 HP laptop in the e-waste bins at my local dump some time back. Immaculate condition. Upgraded memory to 8GB, installed a SSD, bought a new battery. Runs Windows 10 perfectly!
Wonder what the monthly rent is for that "dumpster" studio space. Where do the dumpster props come from? The dumpster studio is pretty realistic, but I'm not fooled, just too much "hidden" treasure!
You can get them connectors on eBay for a couple of quid. I’ve actually got one spare but I’m in the UK. Just plugs into the sata port on the ssd / hdd and then slots into the laptop pins.
You could probably just install an mSATA in that WWAN-port next to the WiFi card. Standard port, and you won't have to look around eBay for an hdd caddy for this particular machine. Also, you need to use a Dell charger. Dell laptops refuses to charge at all with HP chargers, even though the plug is exactly the same - the same vice a versa HP laptops won't charge with a Dell charger. They will however power on, as you see.
The alternating blue and red flashing battery led indicates the battery has failed. That’s probably why it was tossed as not worth repairing if it’s nearing it’s time to be replaced.
I've got one of those Vostros too. I was pleased for a while, but the CPU fan got to making a terrible sound. The keyboard isn't pleasant to program with either, as it's too flat and doesn't have any big tactile features to help, even in day.
Like RetroPCTech said, that is just a MiniPCIe-slot and does not work as a mSATA slot I'm afraid :-( I had this exact model before which was also missing the HDD-adapter (which only costs like 10 USD shipped) and I tried with a mSATA SSD which did not work.
Sometimes 'in theory' you can put a better CPU in the same socket, but with a lot of lower end big box motherboards they do not have sufficient power regulation for the wattages as well as BIOS support for the cpu. You are usually good to put anything on a ASUS board. I have an acer one here with a i5 650 and I'd like to put a i7 on it but nah, no voyage.
i have that same laptop, it has failure in the integrated nvidia chip, just removed the cga chip inductor to disable it and use the on chip video but it lost the hdmi capability, thats a first generation core i5. with an ssd works a charm.
Just buy a msata ssd instead of trying to get a adapter for the sata slot. Although depending on what you want to use it for you could get a adapter for the DVD drive to a 2,5" as well. Running windows from SD card is pretty useless though otherwise that couldve been an alternative too.. 🤔
Love the little Dell or HP SFF PCs. I built one out for a media center. Added a GT 1030 low profile card (cheap and still available in the US). Thanks!
Use the msata or esata or USB (for live CD version of Linux). Ocz ssd.. I have a few of those and remember losing all the money i invested in their shares some years ago!
The stuff that people throw away... Also, how do people constantly find all this good stuff? I did find an old PC on the sidewalk once and picked up a working monitor, but nothing as nice as this yet.
I'd toss the laptop. 1st gen i5 in a notebook is too slow. And you need to buy a SATA adapter or mSATA SSD for the slot next to the WiFi card, too. My go-to for cheap deals is searching for recent laptops on ebay, listed as not working with "does not turn on" in the description. 13" 8th gen i7 16GB RAM for 200 bucks, power switch cable was lose. 15.4" 7th gen i7 convertible with touch display 8GB RAM for 100 bucks, power switch had a broken solder joint.
Hope are able to get through the current rain storms ok. Must be dumping plenty, so while you are not 8n primary flood area couod still end up with storm damage. Keep well.
That laptop is a good score, I have a similar Dell in immaculate condition scored from the local dump,even had the hard drive left in it. Also win7, works fine!
Dell are still using HDD adaptors? even the three Lenovo laptops I have are just straight SATA connections, just add HDD/SSD and you're good to go, no interstitial adaptors required, but then, dell like their unnecessary connectors, just to make things more of a headache...
One could earn a pretty good living by capturing things left in the "Dumpster Room" and selling them! We have an entire sub-economy here in the US....dumpster diving.
If this dumping is typical for businesses one would think there is room for someone to make a living. "Call us for all you old electronics" - Little repair shop to put in new drives and such and there you go. On the other hand the market is really flooded with for use in office PCs. So yeah, maybe more something for a charity.
I live in a large metro area in the USA. We have two charities that take electronics from businesses and recycle them or resell them (for very cheap prices).
I wonder if any other tenants of Dave's building watch the channel? If they do, do you suppose they ever leave stuff in the dumpster room just to see if he'll take it or not? Or maybe just by happenstance someone occasionally looks and goes "Hey, I'm the one who threw that $WHATEVER in the bin!"
useless without that SATA adapter...but nice score otherwise you should make a "Dumpster Cluster" with all the old desktops ya find...you'll have a supercomputer to rival the govs soon enough! :P how u goin with the floods Dave? ...i was in the middle of it up here..settled down now
@@EEVblog2 good to hear... i was surrounded by it here in port macquarie..was the highest ive seen it in the 25year ive been here...luckly i just high enough to not have to worry...i still got a call to evacuate tho!..... but now the cleanup starts... bloody huge mess funny thing...or weird coincidence... i was born in windsor and thats going under too!
I still have a single core Pentium in one of my Acer laptops from 2005 which I use regularly with Lubuntu, so no way I'd toss any i5, not even a Core2Duo!
First Gen i processors are still kinda useful, core2 and older though, are to the point they're not particularly useful even as web surfing machines, I'm using a core2 duo laptop (not my primary laptop) right now and it's not really worth the cost of an SSD to make it useable.
@@brandonupchurch7628 My main PC is an old HP workstation with a Core2Duo E7500, it's completely fine for me with the cheapest 250GB Toshiba SSD I could find in december 2018, win7 cloned from its dying original HDD. The 6GB RAM could be bigger, at least it's DDR3... As long as it's capable to play 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps YT videos without issues, it's fine for me (1080p60 is already a bit too much for it). Although if I want to edit videos in full HD, which I plan to do in the near future, I'll probably have to fire up my i7 laptop, I think is has a second or maybe third gen i7 CPU, it was given to me with MOBO failure in 2019, I repaired it successfully, now it's waiting for an SSD.
Seems your country didnt have a special place for electronical produckts if we find somthing like this in sweden its becose somone did not want to go to the lokal place for dumping electronic. great score i want somthing like this to ;D sorry for bad english ;D
@@Okurka. I somewhat remember to that statement, but don't know if he specifically said he never checks the content. He said he deletes it, that's for sure, but he might check it prior to that. Honestly, who could resist?
I don't know what's your problem with Dell desktops, our company uses almost solely Dell PCs with very low failure rates, a lot of them are OptiPlex 380 from 2010 and still going strong, some HDD failure mostly in those which run 24/7, but mostly trouble free. We had capacitor failures starting in ~2015 on motherboards from the earlier OptiPlex 360 series from ~2006, but no such problems with the 380s from 2009-2011 yet. Oh, and my laptop at work is a Dell Latitude E5500 from 2009, still going strong, built like a tank, it's heavy and thick as hell, but survived several drops without any issues. And it was a very cheap business laptop in 2009. That price category is very flimsy now (not just from Dell), non-replacable batteries in everything, usually intergated RAM with maybe one expansion slot, and you can lift one corner of the laptop from the desk up to an inch, while the other three corners are still on the desk... With this E5500, you could possibly slap someone to death, and still use it afterwards.
Yep. I don't get it either. Had great runs out of Dell. I can only remember one Dell desktop that had main board failure at 9 years old so nothing unusual. Others still going. I even have my Pentium 3 laptop. Booted it for first time in a few years the other day, perfect.
I don't get it either. My organisation had over 10,000 Dell machines. A few average spec models here and there but Dell was the only supplier who ever met the tender specification requirements.
We also have many DELL machines at work, and the failure rate is significantly lower than on the few lenovo (and also some others like HP) machines we have. And if there is a failure, the Pro Support fixes the issue within 24-48h
I wonder if the businesses in your building look for old stuff to dump and take an internal office vote to see what they'll leave for "our local eevblog bloke" then watch teardowns of their old office equipment at some monthly office party bash.
they obviously run a betting pool on what he will take.
Sounds fun
Hahahaha!
I was thinking that too!!!
Dells won't charge from an HP cord. There's a 1wire communications to a chip that if it doesn't detect the correct Dell chip with the wattage, it goes into slow mode and refuses to charge but will boot.
Yup I had the same problem with a Latitude. One caution, the center pin on the power adapter plug is the data pin. If you try and probe there is a high probability of shorting the center pin to to the inside sleeve which is at a high voltage. This will burn out the serial rom in the power module. Ask me how I know.
Yup. They'll throttle the CPU to "almost unusably slow" if they can't authenticate their AC adapter.
Some do but not all. Some models can also disable this "feature" in the bios.
@@logmeindog You can disable the complaining but it will still not charge and be really slow.
I like what you dumpster divers do. Savin old but still working and valuable tech for the trash and found a new purpose for them is a good thing.
Reasons why Dave is the analogous form of Director Taika Waititi for electronics tutorial videos:
1) Every production video is based on idea and executed without script.
2) The end result is entertaining without fail.
3) Humour and emotions are always present.
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n) Another day another Doug.
The sata interposer is $9 on eBay if you are lucky, very typical of the period for Dell.
This laptop is barely worth more than that imo... I would consider HD2500 / HD3000 minimum for laptop, since they can decode/encode 1080p videos at least..
@@rkan2 Yep. This thing is not fun to work with. Maybe install XP on it and some old software.
Surprisingly clean laptop -- hardly any wear visible on the keyboard. The space bar often starts showing wear after just a few weeks of use.
It was probably used mostly on a docking station.
Hard to believe that First Gen Core-i CPUs are over 10 years old now.
yup my 1st m17x was a 1st gen i7 it finly die a year ago
it is a pain when the caddy / adapter gets dumped with the HDD , has this with a couple of laptops ive bought without hdds in the past
Proprietary connectors should have been banned in the first place.
The key difference here: bought.
A dumpster PC with no hard drive is okay, but buying one you think "just needs a hard drive" and realizing it's a brick must suck...
@@Vilvaran yes I meant to be honest I am talking the cheap end of buying but still a pain as you say when you think it's simple and something you have laying around to then have to hunt for the particular caddy and connector required
I have one of those laptops I use to run mint linux. It works great. I added a ssd.
I scored a very nice i3 HP laptop in the e-waste bins at my local dump some time back. Immaculate condition. Upgraded memory to 8GB, installed a SSD, bought a new battery. Runs Windows 10 perfectly!
Wonder what the monthly rent is for that "dumpster" studio space. Where do the dumpster props come from? The dumpster studio is pretty realistic, but I'm not fooled, just too much "hidden" treasure!
.... I have suspected for years it was a Spielberg production !
You can get them connectors on eBay for a couple of quid. I’ve actually got one spare but I’m in the UK. Just plugs into the sata port on the ssd / hdd and then slots into the laptop pins.
God bless you, for correcting the shutter speed and brightness, and you did it very quickly. Thank you
I wish more people would do that.
You could probably just install an mSATA in that WWAN-port next to the WiFi card. Standard port, and you won't have to look around eBay for an hdd caddy for this particular machine. Also, you need to use a Dell charger. Dell laptops refuses to charge at all with HP chargers, even though the plug is exactly the same - the same vice a versa HP laptops won't charge with a Dell charger. They will however power on, as you see.
the drive caddy if there is one and the required hdd/ssd drive adapter can likely be purchased on ebay
The alternating blue and red flashing battery led indicates the battery has failed. That’s probably why it was tossed as not worth repairing if it’s nearing it’s time to be replaced.
Have a linux live disc on a usb stick so you can boot the machines up and test wifi etc
FYI - win 10 20H2 will now install direct using the win 7 key. No need to install win 7, update the win 7, then upgrade to win 10.
I've got one of those Vostros too. I was pleased for a while, but the CPU fan got to making a terrible sound. The keyboard isn't pleasant to program with either, as it's too flat and doesn't have any big tactile features to help, even in day.
theres an msata slot there as well, next to the wifi card
This is most likely not m-Sata. Based on the service manual, it's just a miniPCIe slot for a WWAN (3G/4G) Mobile Modem with no SATA capabilities.
Like RetroPCTech said, that is just a MiniPCIe-slot and does not work as a mSATA slot I'm afraid :-(
I had this exact model before which was also missing the HDD-adapter (which only costs like 10 USD shipped) and I tried with a mSATA SSD which did not work.
Sometimes 'in theory' you can put a better CPU in the same socket, but with a lot of lower end big box motherboards they do not have sufficient power regulation for the wattages as well as BIOS support for the cpu. You are usually good to put anything on a ASUS board. I have an acer one here with a i5 650 and I'd like to put a i7 on it but nah, no voyage.
The laptop has an MSATA slot next to the wifi adapter, so you can pop a compatible SSD right in there without buying the Dell SATA adapter.
i have that same laptop, it has failure in the integrated nvidia chip, just removed the cga chip inductor to disable it and use the on chip video but it lost the hdmi capability, thats a first generation core i5. with an ssd works a charm.
Btw you can guess the Intel generation by the sticker design. They are specific for each.
If you go around remembering all the different sitcker designs, that is 😂
@@havarhen To be honest it's not that hard. :D I mean if you are good in general with video memory, won't be an isssue.
Just buy a msata ssd instead of trying to get a adapter for the sata slot. Although depending on what you want to use it for you could get a adapter for the DVD drive to a 2,5" as well. Running windows from SD card is pretty useless though otherwise that couldve been an alternative too.. 🤔
Love the little Dell or HP SFF PCs. I built one out for a media center. Added a GT 1030 low profile card (cheap and still available in the US). Thanks!
Yep, the laptop is missing an adapter connector and the drive cage altogether. Easy to get off eBay.
You can put an M.2 SSD in the laptop. That Sata ssd just needs a $5-12 adapter from amazon.
That's mSATA, not M.2, unless mSATA is also on the M.2 spec, which I don't think it is.
Use the msata or esata or USB (for live CD version of Linux). Ocz ssd.. I have a few of those and remember losing all the money i invested in their shares some years ago!
You have a soldering iron, make your own hard drive cable! It's just a straight through connection.
The dumpsters that keep on giving.
i had the same laptop with the Nvidia 310M and it was always overheating.
I’m not joking, I love to clean up Sydney’s dumpster room since people and companies are generous.
That is not a dumpster, It's a gold mine.
That's a 1st gen core i5, basically old and crusty. They are on 11th gen for reference.
Dave's venture into SFF Hoarding lol. Great to see you found something else!
winner👍 chicken something.
Egg?
Behold; the worlds most interesting and lucrative dumpster!..
Dude... I could make a living just from finds from your dumpster room.
A cheap msata drive would make that laptop quite useful.
Still cant get over this dumpster
The stuff that people throw away...
Also, how do people constantly find all this good stuff? I did find an old PC on the sidewalk once and picked up a working monitor, but nothing as nice as this yet.
Was the adapter you used an HP adapter or a Dell adapter, if it's a Dell my guess is the DC jack pigtail probably needs to be replaced/repaired
He said it was an HP power supply.
I'd toss the laptop. 1st gen i5 in a notebook is too slow. And you need to buy a SATA adapter or mSATA SSD for the slot next to the WiFi card, too.
My go-to for cheap deals is searching for recent laptops on ebay, listed as not working with "does not turn on" in the description. 13" 8th gen i7 16GB RAM for 200 bucks, power switch cable was lose. 15.4" 7th gen i7 convertible with touch display 8GB RAM for 100 bucks, power switch had a broken solder joint.
Hope are able to get through the current rain storms ok. Must be dumping plenty, so while you are not 8n primary flood area couod still end up with storm damage. Keep well.
Sure wish that I had a dumpster like that to dive in!
That laptop is a good score, I have a similar Dell in immaculate condition scored from the local dump,even had the hard drive left in it.
Also win7, works fine!
The drive connector looks identical to the one in the old HP mahines, the cages are dirt cheap on ebay
Really rude to not leave the mounting hardware for a HDD in a computer when pulling the drives.
Dell are still using HDD adaptors? even the three Lenovo laptops I have are just straight SATA connections, just add HDD/SSD and you're good to go, no interstitial adaptors required, but then, dell like their unnecessary connectors, just to make things more of a headache...
"Still" ? I don't know, but this is a nearly 10 years old laptop...
One could earn a pretty good living by capturing things left in the "Dumpster Room" and selling them! We have an entire sub-economy here in the US....dumpster diving.
There's same laptop at work in the lab, battery is dead, its slow, heavy and no one want to use, basically the dumpster fate is nearly there.
If you put linux on it, it would be speedy. Windows, true to form, still gets slower and slower over time. Keeps PC sales up
It's the software, not the hardware. I even use an amd2 socket pc for work and it's fine for everything.
Got a similar but smaller VOSTRO Notebook. It is well capable of running Windows 10 in an absolute usable manner.
I need to buy a dumpster!
Yup, and add a large sticker "Electronics Recycling Only ♻️".
What lovely computers 😀👍 I like the Vostro desktops, so cute! They look like fun MAME PCs, would be good in your arcade cabinet some day.
Does Dave make more money from Adsense or from selling dumpster finds?
Put Chrome OS on it. Would run like a charm on these specs.
Man i wish i could dupster dive stuff like that 😂
If this dumping is typical for businesses one would think there is room for someone to make a living. "Call us for all you old electronics" - Little repair shop to put in new drives and such and there you go. On the other hand the market is really flooded with for use in office PCs. So yeah, maybe more something for a charity.
Definitely for charity. Give the excess to poor kids whose family can't afford a decent PC.
I live in a large metro area in the USA. We have two charities that take electronics from businesses and recycle them or resell them (for very cheap prices).
I wonder if any other tenants of Dave's building watch the channel? If they do, do you suppose they ever leave stuff in the dumpster room just to see if he'll take it or not? Or maybe just by happenstance someone occasionally looks and goes "Hey, I'm the one who threw that $WHATEVER in the bin!"
could upgrade that old laptop to linux, give it a new life as a linux machine!
Good job on spreading the word, but I think we are getting on his nerves from some comments that he has done in previous videos.
The notebook is so clean it seems noone ever used it... Just bought and trashed...
Look at that fan funnel.
pear adapter ?
The habit of some manufacturers of not using directly the sata interface is infuriating, HP is another culprit
I had a laptop like this it used to get really hot.
First gen i5, that puppy's 12 year old.
These speakers 😍
I need to have this dump, lucky man.
useless without that SATA adapter...but nice score otherwise
you should make a "Dumpster Cluster" with all the old desktops ya find...you'll have a supercomputer to rival the govs soon enough! :P
how u goin with the floods Dave? ...i was in the middle of it up here..settled down now
No issues here.
@@EEVblog2 good to hear... i was surrounded by it here in port macquarie..was the highest ive seen it in the 25year ive been here...luckly i just high enough to not have to worry...i still got a call to evacuate tho!..... but now the cleanup starts... bloody huge mess
funny thing...or weird coincidence... i was born in windsor and thats going under too!
you lucky what you find there ...
First gen i5.... yeah, I'd toss it too.
I still have a single core Pentium in one of my Acer laptops from 2005 which I use regularly with Lubuntu, so no way I'd toss any i5, not even a Core2Duo!
It's fun on the bench.
First Gen i processors are still kinda useful, core2 and older though, are to the point they're not particularly useful even as web surfing machines, I'm using a core2 duo laptop (not my primary laptop) right now and it's not really worth the cost of an SSD to make it useable.
@@brandonupchurch7628 My main PC is an old HP workstation with a Core2Duo E7500, it's completely fine for me with the cheapest 250GB Toshiba SSD I could find in december 2018, win7 cloned from its dying original HDD. The 6GB RAM could be bigger, at least it's DDR3... As long as it's capable to play 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps YT videos without issues, it's fine for me (1080p60 is already a bit too much for it). Although if I want to edit videos in full HD, which I plan to do in the near future, I'll probably have to fire up my i7 laptop, I think is has a second or maybe third gen i7 CPU, it was given to me with MOBO failure in 2019, I repaired it successfully, now it's waiting for an SSD.
Those with the bitcoins are probably the ones throwing working electronics into the dumpster, after all they can afford it.
on the dells the front cover comes out '
nice ssd inside run linux mint
GT 730.. 710 or even 610
i scored a dell poweredge 2800 server and a whole bunch of dead dell laptops all had that lil brass fingered interface in them ive got 100s but im uk
Seems your country didnt have a special place for electronical produckts if we find somthing like this in sweden its becose somone did not want to go to the lokal place for dumping electronic. great score i want somthing like this to ;D sorry for bad english ;D
ok im jelly
3:00 In a previous video you said you never check the data and always delete it...
Use critical thinking. He's going to say he deleted it for liability purposes, but he's obviously going to look through it
@@xenonram So he lied?
@@Okurka. I somewhat remember to that statement, but don't know if he specifically said he never checks the content. He said he deletes it, that's for sure, but he might check it prior to that. Honestly, who could resist?
no lab flood v2?
Dude, you found a Dell...........
Gold Gold Gold!!!
on the DELL laptop, you can put a NvMe drive on top of the Wifi card .
NVMe didn't exist when this was made. The CPU is from 2011. First gen Intel Core Mobile.
Result!!!
Somebody could make a living out of your dumpster room
I'm jealous.
th rent pays itself now
sweet
Still have a Peryn running...............why they trash such things...
WHAT IS A PEAR ADPTER
USFF
Ok so it seems wise to do a shake test before switching on tossed equipment because there might be some loosey goosies dancing around in them.
lol excited about a 3 million year old Dell
Dell consumer laptop keyboards are so crappy and ugly, I could never use one.
Can I have the laptop and the 2 pc laptop for my birthday then pc for my sister and pc for my mom and my brother already has a pc so he good
e-sata is actually USB with no power. You can plug in a powered USB hub to the e-sata port to get more USB ports if you need them.
Errr, no, it's eSATAp, which is eSATA with USB - which means with power.
No it isn't. SATA is a completely different interface to USB. There _are_ USB/eSATA combo ports but that still doesn't mean eSATA is USB.
Exactly where a Dell belongs... the dumpster.
I don't know what's your problem with Dell desktops, our company uses almost solely Dell PCs with very low failure rates, a lot of them are OptiPlex 380 from 2010 and still going strong, some HDD failure mostly in those which run 24/7, but mostly trouble free. We had capacitor failures starting in ~2015 on motherboards from the earlier OptiPlex 360 series from ~2006, but no such problems with the 380s from 2009-2011 yet.
Oh, and my laptop at work is a Dell Latitude E5500 from 2009, still going strong, built like a tank, it's heavy and thick as hell, but survived several drops without any issues. And it was a very cheap business laptop in 2009. That price category is very flimsy now (not just from Dell), non-replacable batteries in everything, usually intergated RAM with maybe one expansion slot, and you can lift one corner of the laptop from the desk up to an inch, while the other three corners are still on the desk... With this E5500, you could possibly slap someone to death, and still use it afterwards.
LOL
Yep. I don't get it either. Had great runs out of Dell. I can only remember one Dell desktop that had main board failure at 9 years old so nothing unusual. Others still going. I even have my Pentium 3 laptop. Booted it for first time in a few years the other day, perfect.
I don't get it either. My organisation had over 10,000 Dell machines. A few average spec models here and there but Dell was the only supplier who ever met the tender specification requirements.
We also have many DELL machines at work, and the failure rate is significantly lower than on the few lenovo (and also some others like HP) machines we have. And if there is a failure, the Pro Support fixes the issue within 24-48h