This job is perfect for carragher pure student of the game just goes to show intelligence comes in many forms him and Neville have saved skysports punditry
Hated Chelsea at the time as an LFC fan but I absolutely love listening to these Icons of the sport chatting about their careers. Makes me respect rivals so much like Terry, Keane, Neville or Wright, Shearer etc. I take rivalry out of it now and am just thankful I got to watch so many elite players from the 90s to now.
Yep, if you can divorce yourself from their off field antics, there is much to be admired and learned from the aforementioned players. That single minded desire to be the best they can be is a great lesson.
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Torres was already in some kind of decline before he joined chelsea the birmingham game stands out the reason why most of us blues fans loved torres was that he always tried, never hid away & showed his frustration & disappointment when he felt he missed good chances to score or felt let down by his performances but he did score vital goals for us yes we would've loved the torres that we first saw when he first joined liverpool but you can't always get what you want
@@MannequinStep not just that , Drogba was passing his prime he didn't play all the seasons , and when he did he couldn't last 90 minute . Torres really did good , not as good as Drogba , but he was there whenever Chelsea needed him.
@@DelPiero-us7suNot saying its right but always find it odd the amount off heat he gets for this. The woman was actually Wayne bridges ex Partner at the time but was still the mother off his child (so still very cunty). Yet Ryan Giggs doesn't get half the mob on him and he fucked his brothers wife for years also whilst she was pregnant with his bros child. awful man
Full credit to the presenter for leaving 90% of the chat/ exchange to the legendary pros but occasionally chip with a good question to redirect discussion
I’m an armchair Chelsea fan so maybe a bit biased, but I can’t help but feel John Terry gets a bit of a hard time from the eyes of the public, he seems to be a really hated figure but every time I’ve heard him speak he comes across as a really nice guy with great banter! I get that he’s made some mistakes in his life but who hasn’t!
Great player, great captain, immense defender and put everything on the line for his team. Footballing-wise, hard to hate him but what he has done in his private life is foul. The mistake he has made I'm sure others have made before but just because he's a great footballer doesn't mean it can be shoved aside! Much like what Giggs has done, it'll always be associated with him. Maradona and Ronaldinho, possibly a couple of the best players of all time and their names have been sullied too. It's just too inseparable.
Nmphong, this is the fallacy people are referring to. He wasn't sleeping with his friend's wife.. She was a friend's ex girlfriend while a guy like Giggs actually had an affair with his brother's wife
Mistakes aren't really pre-meditated though are they haha. Id like to know if you would have the same thought process if it was your missus he was ploughing, but being a supporter of the club he played for I doubt you will have that thought process. We had the same happen at the club I support and if the allegation was true, I think the guilty party is a total c*nt for doing it, even though he was one of the best players I saw live, still makes him a c*nt :)
Are you sure you watched us in those times? he scored 2 prem goals against us in 9 seasons. Finding it hard to play against him doesn't mean he ruined Carra or LFC for that matter.
@@misterzee5736 Not just Drogba, Henry, Ruud etc. Carra made the most of a limited talent, solid centre back around 05-09 but nowhere near Terry and Rio level.
Having watched John Terry and Chelsea play for most of my life, I can say JT is the greatest ever Chelsea player... Great captain, great tackler, great team-mate (sorry Wayne Bridge), consistent, injury-free, scored goals, left foot was a wand even though he was a righty, hardly ever got carded, brave as hell. An icon of Chelsea FC.
I watched JT play for Villa at Hillsborough.. I said to my lads, just watch him, how he plays the game, his positioning, and movement, he made it look so easy... agree, class player
2008 he slipped and took the most important penalty in Chelsea history, he shouldn't have elected to take the decisive 5th pen as a damn CB. 2012 he got red carded at a very crucial time in that tie vs Barcelona. Him and Carvalho(and later Alex) were amazing, but Terry had some massive flops in two of the highest moments in Chelsea history
@@matthewdolan8804 That was also a great era, but between 2005-2009 Man United, Chelsea and Liverpool were arguably the 3 best teams in the world. They were each competing for the EPL and were always ending up in the semi-finals of the Champions League, and Arsenal was also a decent side around that time too.
I actually prefer the current era (August 2013- present) Premier league teams have been less good in Europe maybe but the league itself is far more competitive at the top end.
@Arnold Saunders The funny thing is when Terry fucked Bridges ex, she was Bridges ex at that time. He never married her. Not defending Terry but everyone gives Giggs a pass and what Giggs did is million times worse than what Terry did. Giggs fucked his brothers wife and got her pregnant. But no one talks about it. Everyone jumps on Terry as if what he did was worse than what Giggs did.
Spurs fan, always hated JT with a passion but this interview is class. He comes across really well, just a proper professional who had complete loyalty to his club. Keep these home interviews coming sky, they’re helping a lot 👌👌
The ghost goal "controversy" is rubbish, if the goal had not been given it would've been a penalty for Liverpool and red card for Cech (those were the rules at the time) which would probably be worse for Chelsea.
And of course Chelsea have never won a CL semi away from home when down to ten men, have they? And no team has ever missed a pen. Besides, if you look at the footage, you'll see Baros 's studs made contact with Cech's chest, and most refs would have penalised him not Cech. Crap reffing cost us badly - but that's pretty common for Chelsea in the CL.
@@8ackbiter434 Chelsea under Mourinho lost almost every cup tie against Liverpool, so I'd say they wouldn't want to play 80+ minutes at Anfield in those circumstances.
@@8ackbiter434 The ref himself said if he didn't give the goal he would have had to give a pen and send the player off. This isn't even a matter of opinion, stop trying to rewrite history.
Look ghost goal or not, Gudjoshnon had a great chance at the end to win the game, and even worst was Frank Lampard's chance with seconds left. Chelsea simply could not convert under pressure, Liverpool in 2005 had balls of steel
@@ay613 Yeah it's young for a career to be over. And that why we don't mention him as the bests ever. Like Adriano, who dominated football for a couple of years before disappearing. How can these guys be considered amongst the greatests?! Like Neville said about team in the history, to be amongst the all-time great, you have to dominate over time.
@@zakfrancis5352 technically, yes. But his goal solidified Chelsea going through and it was the biggest fcuk you to Barcelona. When Iniesta scored the equalizer at Stamford Bridge in 09' it made me sick.
This was interesting! Request for the next episode: *John Terry and Rio Ferdinand give their honest thoughts on the Anton Ferdinand incident | Off Script*
JT's the best English center-half since Moore, but Carragher was very underrated. Gripes with the ghost goal aside, his performance in that 2005 final was incredible, people forget just how good Milan were back then. If it wasn't for him (and Dudek), Milan would have gone on to score five or six in the 2nd half/ET.
The ghost goal "controversy" is rubbish anyway, if the goal had not been given it would've been a penalty for Liverpool and red card for Cech (those were the rules at the time) which would probably be worse for Chelsea.
Jose always had winners till he went to United and spurs, jose gets a lot of stick but people forget what he done and achieved .footballers have become to obbeseesed with social media half them think there models. It's what separates players from now to back then men against boys facts.
Yeah but your job as a manager is to make sure this doesn't affect their performances. Beckham was a model... and Roy keane says he was one of uniteds best trainers.
@@chrynio13 Community Shield,Europa League, League Cup. i am just stating that mourinho still won stuff at utd cos Bernie Mooney was chatting about Mourinho didnt have winners. There was clearly zlatan,rooney etc
@@rajyt4888 You mean trophies a decade ago United fans would have rolled their eyes at winning as something beneath them? Good one. The UEL draw was a joke that year especially.
I loved Torres. As a Liverpool supporter for 60 years, the smoothest, most classy player we ever had. Him & Gerrard were a work of art. But he lost it.
Liverpool fan here. JT was class. Also a very likeable guy and honest here. I hated him in his playing days, but that was testament to how good he was. Both legends.
Exactly. Besides he was more successful at Chelsea than at Liverpool. Carra, an average defender looking down on a legend of the game in Torres who has won every single trophy in the sport except Confed cup.
Claude Makelele I wouldn’t say Carragher was an average defender. He was good, not world class but good. He made a fair assessment, Torres was on the decline and £50m was a price tag for the striker gone not currently there. Either way, he finished with a 1-3.5/.75 goal to game ratio at Chelsea. Score some important goals and gave absolutely everything when in a Chelsea shirt. He’s forever endeared himself to the fans and no matter what, he has a place at the bridge
@@claudemakelele2856 glad to hear. I read comments re 'new foreign players scoring a couple of goals for LFC, getting their own songs, while the stalwarts that gave their all did not". So maybe also human that local club players felt a bit upstaged by a player like Torres who was so truly adored and the mutuality of it.
At 8:00 is one of the better questions that has been asked in any of these conversations. As a United fan who saw him winning the UEFA Cup and then the Champs League with in all honesty a pretty average Porto side, seeing the success at Chelsea, and then winning the Champs League with Inter I was happy we hired him. However, for what ever reason "that" Jose had changed and in his place was someone who didn't seem to really enjoy what he was doing. Someone who came out and publicly criticized players, who it seems never had the full support of the dressing room. It is mind boggling that this keeps occuring in his career post his second stint at Chelsea considering how he was able to achieve 2 Champions League victories by getting the absolute best out of lesser players earlier on.
I think any team Jose manages has to have a very strong spine consisting of huge characters (not necessarily stars but characters). Without that, I think teams that he manages crumble under his intensity and the amount of pressure he puts on them - which causes them to rebel eventually. On top of that, certain teams are just too good to park the bus against nowadays. Especially if you don’t have a Terry, Carvalho or Cole in your back line.
ArranSiriTV Idk if it’s a Millennial thing, it could be but I wouldn’t make that case without the research to support it. Whatever it is, it does seem like he needs to change it.
Ricky Bowen most people don’t even know what a Millennial is though, it’s just a buzz word for them. The oldest Millenials are 39 this year, how many 39 year olds do you see playing top level football? Don’t just say things because they sound good.
@@justlooking1087 People both talk and think in cliches, for the most part. The median IQ in this country is about 100. You're not gonna get original thought from the vast majority of the populace.
He said himself he won trophies so it was worth it but he never felt like he felt at Liverpool again so It was hard to judge whether it was the best thing for him. Considering his form and the way Liverpool where going id say it was. Although to see him and Suarez together as was the plan who knows.
True. However name a manager, SAF aside, who maintained their peak? It just doesn't happen. The game moves on. Just likes players who have 3-4 years of their absolute best.
@@Flipmode1900 the only other manager that maintained is peak was probably Jupp Heynckes, won the champions league with Real Madrid in 1998 and then 15 years later won the champions league with Bayern Munich. If he continued iafter 2013 I feel like he would have added a couple more to Bayern.
It didnt, I mean no disrespect, carra and all the liverpool fans knew torres injuries had already killed him off, when Chelsea offered 50 million we all we happy to say goodbye as he was no longer the same player, he had 1 good game in all his last season, against chelsea. He maybe could have tried to get that yard of pace back but he carried on getting injured at Chelsea, for a player who relies on pace Chelsea where stupid too buy him in the first place. Torres sale was a longstanding butt of jokes for many years, still to this day cant believe a professional club like that took such a risk with 50 million, you only have to look at liverpool pulling out of Fekir deal cos of dodgy knee, it was like buying a car with a gear missing, it had the capability once to be really nippy but no longer had the equipment needed YNWA
@@sarveshsawant9564 You make a valid point, Torres was indeed and always will be 1 of the most talented foreign strikers to ever grace the premier league, taking a gamble on getting him back to the 2 or 3 seasons he was arguably the best striker in the world wasnt the issue, 50 million to take the chance was the issue. I will always remeber Torres for what he was and not what he turned into, ask any scouser el nino will always hold a place in their heart. They could never replace a monster like drogba Stay safe YNWA
From the drogba lamps terry, carra Stevie era it remains 2-2 on cl semis an we played in the group an drew 0-0 both games, I remember cause I went to both 😒 but it’s always annoyed me, we knocked them out twice, they knocked us out twice, an it was never settled.
Yep. But so many if’s an buts they could also say too they were great matches an I always scared of anfield on a European night, the best night we had there was the 3-1 when brana ivana scored 2 I think apart of me is still standing in anfield like this 🤷🏽♂️.....🤣 I was in shock! But they were great games, such a shame it was never settled
🙄 this is conversation between grown ups. Do 1 pal, I didn’t actaully expect a reply like that from a Liverpool supporter ur obviously an armchair fan.
As a liverpool fan it always makes me sad when i hear cara speaking.... not harshly but slightly negative about torres..... i will always love torres and even though he was on the decline when he left i will always have so many fond memories of that hair band and red shirt flying down the pitch....
Was thinking the same. He never took to Fernando. Every time he mentions Torres's name, its with a sneer. Belittling. Understandable to a certain extent. Torres was so insanely adored at Liverpool.
@@Tan92lfc Please tell me what century you were watching football in? Because I promise you it isn't the 21st. Terry partnered a defence that conceded 15 goals in a premier league, and lost only one match that entire season. A premier league record to this day. Had more clean sheets in his career than Ferdinand, and after Beckham retired waa given the captaincy because of his leadership qualities and die hard attitude towards the defensive side of the game. Vidic was a better defender than Ferdinand at United. Everyone knows that. Ferdinand might have had composure on the ball, but don't let that trick you to believe he was better than Terry.
Torres was absolutely sensational at Liverpool. My favourite player he could do anything. Skilful, Fast, Direct, volleys, overhead kicks, top corners, he had it all.
As a Chelsea fan and looking back to those times, I absolutely loved the games against Liverpool, mainly because I've always quite liked them as a club. Against clubs I truly hate (Man Utd, Arsenal) it was always much more stressful as a supporter.
And I have a mate who supports Liverpool (I’m Chelsea) and we got bored of playing each other after a while. I think people forget there were some proper stinker games between us and Pool in that period between 04-07.
Liam McCrellis I think the end of the season match that determined top 4 was the ignition but it was the League Cup final in 2005 and the CL semi final that the flames started to get out to control
these sorts of interviews are sooooooo much better than what we get in non lockdown, no time restraints and just people being real.... this is the way forward.. people just being real. its what every sports fan wants
tbf he only scored 3 goals and won bc he had an assist and had played fewer minutes than mario gomez. Also, that Spain team was arguably the greatest international side ever
Never liked Chelsea or JT when he played but he’s been great in the couple extended interviews I’ve seen lately. These guys have great memories too, really impressive recall.
Carragher has got to be the best pundit about at the moment, asks good questions and the amount of facts and stats he knows off the top of his head is insane 🤯
How the hell does carragher remember the line up and score of everygame he has ever been in or not been in even. How he remembers he was with Wisdom and stuff is beyond me, when you consider he plays two matches a week for 12 years
Some people just have a memory like that for something they love. I’m the same. I can remember all sorts of facts and figures for games played years ago. I can still remember all the details from my first game I attended. I think a lot of people who love football are the same.
i must say i am LOVING these lockdown interviews,. The best content youve delivered IMO and gives a real insight into the life of a professional footballer Fair do's
Listen for me, I look back now and feel this was probably one of the best video around at the time. Couple of big characters who have achieved a lot in the game
@ismail adam Wasn't his mates chick at that time. She was Bridges Ex at that time. Not defending him or saying I would do that same. But stop listening to the media and do your research.
Tiny yo he scored vital goals in big games. His work rates were incredible. He created a lot of goals if they lead to him getting assists or starting an attacking leading to goals
To save you watching it and wasting 40 minutes of your life you'll never get back. Carra on Torres going to Chelsea. 17:40 "i couldn't believe it" You're welcome.
Well, you are right as the title of the videos suggest. But let me say that there are so many interesting things other than the Torres Transfer that I found really amusing and interesting. That Terry saying, "We approach Chelsea board and asked to bring Jose back".
@@asadjang2 that means nothing because the players have zero power. Their only role is to kick a bag of air and continually make spectators angry by feigning injury and being rewarded handsomely.
Double D slept with his mate’s ex-girlfriend and was acquitted of all charges in the Ferdinand case. Not saying he’s a decent bloke but what you’ve said is wrong.
@@jaredpillay9342 He did actually, he won a League cup, he joined just after Liverpool won the F.A cup and champion's league. He won the Champions league at Chelsea.
@Seto KaibaMate why u concluding something without even looking at the context, they are both trophies. I'm not saying they're both as good as each other. What more did he win at Chelsea then.
honestly growing up i hated watching john terry and his style but now i admire and understand how good he was as a center back one of the most underrated defenders in history of the premier league
Terry seems to talk a lot to his hierarchy. “I said to Jose” “I said to Roman” “I said to the FA” Jamie said at Liverpool we didn’t talk to the boss like that. We did what we was told. And realistically they weren’t all that successful week in week out back then. Chelsea had massive success. But also massive failure after their success with Mourinho and it seems like their team was run by committee. when the manager couldn’t be overrrawed it was great a dresssing room full of leaders, when the manager was overrun by these leaders, it just lead to failure. The best teams (Chelsea dominance era, Manu dominance era, now Liverpool dominance era) it seems are run like this but you need a manager who can handle and encourage big leaders in the dressing room. Later in Wenger’s career it seemed like he wanted no leaders except himself which funnily enough coincided with Arsenal’s downfall.
Sunny boy A strong manager who is willing and able to handle strong leaders are good ingredients for a club to become dominant for a while. (Eg. Utd under Fergie with Keane, Ince, Bruce, Schmeichel etc. Eg. Chelsea under Mourinho for first two seasons with Drog, JT, Makalele, Lamps etc. Eg. The first team Wenger assembled at Arsenal with Viera, petit, the back 4, Wrighty etc before AW got obsessed with youth and finances. Eg the current Liverpool squad). Without the strong manager the leaders clash with each other and the weak manager and the club underperforms (eg. Chelsea post-Mourinho). Without the strong dressing room leaders you get mentally weak teams who choke. (Eg. Arsenal’s middle to late evolution under Wenger & maybe now Pep’s City ?? ).
@@thatguyaga1n totally right, we had like 5 or 6 national team captain in the dressing room real leaders. Now at Chelsea we might have almost the same level of talent as usual but way weaker mentally no vocal leader. I guess we need some of that again
They start talking about Torres at 17:30
Love it when people do this thanks!
my hero
@Ricky Bowen thank you i wouldn't skip a minute
a real hero
This the comment i was looking for. Thnks
This job is perfect for carragher pure student of the game just goes to show intelligence comes in many forms him and Neville have saved skysports punditry
Kieran Pugh they make it look so easy.
Carragher would be one of the best skysports pundits ever, if he wasn't scouse
@@edenhazarr8866 just as he was one of the best in slotting past his own keeper.
@@claudemakelele2856 and how may goals he saved
He's great at talking about Liverpool I'll give him that. He'll only be one of the best when he starts showing an interest in the other 19 teams.
Hated Chelsea at the time as an LFC fan but I absolutely love listening to these Icons of the sport chatting about their careers. Makes me respect rivals so much like Terry, Keane, Neville or Wright, Shearer etc. I take rivalry out of it now and am just thankful I got to watch so many elite players from the 90s to now.
Terry wouldn't respect your marriage if you left town for a week
Yep, if you can divorce yourself from their off field antics, there is much to be admired and learned from the aforementioned players. That single minded desire to be the best they can be is a great lesson.
@@Flipmode1900 Wayne Bridge didn't need to divorce himself, JT did that for him
Not souness tho
@@Flipmode1900 agreed
These off-script interviews are better than anything sky has done before the pandemic
Can't wait till John Terry's a full on manager, would like to see what his metals made of. And if he can cope with it
They did these before the pandemic asweel
@@benmcnutt223 Plus how he deals with player conflicts, in thier personal lives.
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Torres was already in some kind of decline before he joined chelsea the birmingham game stands out the reason why most of us blues fans loved torres was that he always tried, never hid away & showed his frustration & disappointment when he felt he missed good chances to score or felt let down by his performances but he did score vital goals for us yes we would've loved the torres that we first saw when he first joined liverpool but you can't always get what you want
Scored in the Europa League final and of course, THAT goal at the Nou Camp.
MannequinStep true he wasnt nowhere near at his best but he definitely earned his keep with extremely important historic moments like that
@@MannequinStep not just that , Drogba was passing his prime he didn't play all the seasons , and when he did he couldn't last 90 minute . Torres really did good , not as good as Drogba , but he was there whenever Chelsea needed him.
Injury pretty much stopped him being at his best
Being a Chelsea fan I can agree I truly loved Torres to be honest his fight for the badge the passion he tried and tried and tried
Whether you like him personally John terry was a world class defender and extremely missed at Chelsea.
We’ve never replaced him. Not just from a defensive point of view but as a leader on the pitch and a voice in the dressing room.
JT was quality player and great captain even though he scored his friend girlfriend Wayne Bridge.
@@DelPiero-us7suNot saying its right but always find it odd the amount off heat he gets for this. The woman was actually Wayne bridges ex Partner at the time but was still the mother off his child (so still very cunty).
Yet Ryan Giggs doesn't get half the mob on him and he fucked his brothers wife for years also whilst she was pregnant with his bros child. awful man
LIONS let’s not forget about Terry’s racism. With you on the Giggs issue though
Yeah, he truly was. Giggs got his brother's wife pregnant and Terry gets hell for being with his teammate's ex.
Please get Steven & Frank off script with Geoff. This was class
Full credit to the presenter for leaving 90% of the chat/ exchange to the legendary pros but occasionally chip with a good question to redirect discussion
Two legends!! What a rivalry between Liverpool and Chelsea back in the day, between 2004-2009. They would play 4,5,6 times a year it was insane.
carra is no legend. 0 Prems
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@@Michkov39-t4n lo0l average player at best
Too bad Liverpool won fuckall in that time except that one ucl
@@mysticnuke5296 except that one ucl. Plastics haha
This was a great insight into the dressing room in Chelsea under Jose, and how others thought of them too.
I’m an armchair Chelsea fan so maybe a bit biased, but I can’t help but feel John Terry gets a bit of a hard time from the eyes of the public, he seems to be a really hated figure but every time I’ve heard him speak he comes across as a really nice guy with great banter! I get that he’s made some mistakes in his life but who hasn’t!
Great player, great captain, immense defender and put everything on the line for his team. Footballing-wise, hard to hate him but what he has done in his private life is foul. The mistake he has made I'm sure others have made before but just because he's a great footballer doesn't mean it can be shoved aside! Much like what Giggs has done, it'll always be associated with him. Maradona and Ronaldinho, possibly a couple of the best players of all time and their names have been sullied too. It's just too inseparable.
Simon King PPT not often people made such mistakes like banging ur friend's wife though
Nmphong, this is the fallacy people are referring to. He wasn't sleeping with his friend's wife.. She was a friend's ex girlfriend while a guy like Giggs actually had an affair with his brother's wife
Simon King PPT a wonder why
Mistakes aren't really pre-meditated though are they haha. Id like to know if you would have the same thought process if it was your missus he was ploughing, but being a supporter of the club he played for I doubt you will have that thought process. We had the same happen at the club I support and if the allegation was true, I think the guilty party is a total c*nt for doing it, even though he was one of the best players I saw live, still makes him a c*nt :)
Carra is so sharp I hope even neutrals can appreciate his punditry
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@@abhishekn9991 you're foreign and probably don't have a clue when it comes to english football...
Abhishek Nalla “pool fans” 🤦♂️ 😂 ok mate
As a Liverpool fan, I always feared for LFC when Carra was facing Drogba. Drogba ruined him in most games.
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Are you sure you watched us in those times? he scored 2 prem goals against us in 9 seasons. Finding it hard to play against him doesn't mean he ruined Carra or LFC for that matter.
@@misterzee5736 Not just Drogba, Henry, Ruud etc. Carra made the most of a limited talent, solid centre back around 05-09 but nowhere near Terry and Rio level.
Having watched John Terry and Chelsea play for most of my life, I can say JT is the greatest ever Chelsea player... Great captain, great tackler, great team-mate (sorry Wayne Bridge), consistent, injury-free, scored goals, left foot was a wand even though he was a righty, hardly ever got carded, brave as hell. An icon of Chelsea FC.
I watched JT play for Villa at Hillsborough.. I said to my lads, just watch him, how he plays the game, his positioning, and movement, he made it look so easy... agree, class player
2008 he slipped and took the most important penalty in Chelsea history, he shouldn't have elected to take the decisive 5th pen as a damn CB.
2012 he got red carded at a very crucial time in that tie vs Barcelona.
Him and Carvalho(and later Alex) were amazing, but Terry had some massive flops in two of the highest moments in Chelsea history
Carra obviously didn’t get the memo about cream zip-up collared t-shirts.
Carragher laugh is priceless.
A-ha ha ha ha
Pinebro Darren Farley
2005-2009 was the Golden era of the Premier League
Facts and I think we’re about to see another one soon. I’d give it a few years Max.
Justlooking your probably a united fan that says wE aRe OnE sIgNiNg AwAy FrOm A tITlE
Arsenal Man United was pure football. Real rivalries. 1997 to 2005. Was the golden era in my opinion.
@@matthewdolan8804 That was also a great era, but between 2005-2009 Man United, Chelsea and Liverpool were arguably the 3 best teams in the world. They were each competing for the EPL and were always ending up in the semi-finals of the Champions League, and Arsenal was also a decent side around that time too.
I actually prefer the current era (August 2013- present) Premier league teams have been less good in Europe maybe but the league itself is far more competitive at the top end.
I couldnt believe what I am hearing when Terry said "we had Ashley and bridgey" 😲
He only smashed his ex. Bit awkward but not that bad
Really interesting hearing John Terry's POV on match sharpness with England at major tournaments...
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"Terry and Carragher give their honest thoughts on the Chelsea-Liverpool rivalry" should be the title
Please never stop these Off Scripts, Sky. This is one thing you really get right and the conversations are brilliant. I love it .
Great video. We need more Jaime Carragher and John Terry.
Love how he calls Wayne bridge “Bridgey” as if there best friends 😂
Adrian Cawley 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Time stamp?
ThePsalms 36:25
@@thomasshaw1581thanks mate, Terry has no respect wow!
@Arnold Saunders The funny thing is when Terry fucked Bridges ex, she was Bridges ex at that time. He never married her. Not defending Terry but everyone gives Giggs a pass and what Giggs did is million times worse than what Terry did. Giggs fucked his brothers wife and got her pregnant. But no one talks about it. Everyone jumps on Terry as if what he did was worse than what Giggs did.
Spurs fan, always hated JT with a passion but this interview is class. He comes across really well, just a proper professional who had complete loyalty to his club. Keep these home interviews coming sky, they’re helping a lot 👌👌
Agreed la, I always thought he was a blurt. Seems alright on thje
Carragher could just present this and Shreevesy can get on the furlough
I hope this continues as far as it can when football starts again. Its been ace seeing all these legends talking about awesome times in football.
Torres is still relevant, that says enough about his impact
Hussain Gilani Thats a fact tho, he has left an impact on the history of football, no one is denying that. The people denying are probably new fans
Shane Z didnt make much impact at Chelsea. He’s remembered for winning the lot with Spain and being the best striker in the world while at liverpool.
C McG and that goal vs Barcelona
@@cmcg3738 He was a key player in the 2012-13 season, being the highest scoring player
Brunix7000 He scored 8 league goals in 36 league games in 2012/13, which, embarrassingly, was his best tally for Chelsea.
What a player Terry was
This was awesome - two real professionals, showing the appropriate respect and admiration for each other - god I miss the footy at the moment!
The ghost goal "controversy" is rubbish, if the goal had not been given it would've been a penalty for Liverpool and red card for Cech (those were the rules at the time) which would probably be worse for Chelsea.
Facts..That's what ppl forget..Chelsea actually got off lightly..Could have been 1-0 minus a keeper too
And of course Chelsea have never won a CL semi away from home when down to ten men, have they? And no team has ever missed a pen. Besides, if you look at the footage, you'll see Baros 's studs made contact with Cech's chest, and most refs would have penalised him not Cech. Crap reffing cost us badly - but that's pretty common for Chelsea in the CL.
@@8ackbiter434 Chelsea under Mourinho lost almost every cup tie against Liverpool, so I'd say they wouldn't want to play 80+ minutes at Anfield in those circumstances.
@@8ackbiter434 The ref himself said if he didn't give the goal he would have had to give a pen and send the player off. This isn't even a matter of opinion, stop trying to rewrite history.
Look ghost goal or not, Gudjoshnon had a great chance at the end to win the game, and even worst was Frank Lampard's chance with seconds left. Chelsea simply could not convert under pressure, Liverpool in 2005 had balls of steel
Poor guys, still self-isolating in TK Maxx
Fernando Torres was absolutely class, top striker and usually forgotten in top ranked strikers
@L Maz yep for spain he was good even when he was at chelsea he peformed well with spain euro 2012
Because it didn't last. At 26 he was done.
@@romanoonamor7690 26 is young.
When players primes are at 30
TITUS 3V5 His point was while Torres at his peak was class he had literally no longevity
@@ay613 Yeah it's young for a career to be over. And that why we don't mention him as the bests ever. Like Adriano, who dominated football for a couple of years before disappearing. How can these guys be considered amongst the greatests?! Like Neville said about team in the history, to be amongst the all-time great, you have to dominate over time.
That Torres goal against Barca was definitely worth £50mil
It wasn’t, chelsea were through without that goal
@@zakfrancis5352 technically, yes. But his goal solidified Chelsea going through and it was the biggest fcuk you to Barcelona. When Iniesta scored the equalizer at Stamford Bridge in 09' it made me sick.
This was interesting!
Request for the next episode: *John Terry and Rio Ferdinand give their honest thoughts on the Anton Ferdinand incident | Off Script*
real talk
John Terry is many things,but suicidally stupid he is not.
That’ll all be “off script”
JT's the best English center-half since Moore, but Carragher was very underrated. Gripes with the ghost goal aside, his performance in that 2005 final was incredible, people forget just how good Milan were back then. If it wasn't for him (and Dudek), Milan would have gone on to score five or six in the 2nd half/ET.
Ferdinand.
The ghost goal "controversy" is rubbish anyway, if the goal had not been given it would've been a penalty for Liverpool and red card for Cech (those were the rules at the time) which would probably be worse for Chelsea.
@@mckenziewilliamhowells233 Don't be silly.
Mckenzie William Howells ha Ferdinand is a fraud got carried by vidic bang average
Loving the t-shirt Carra. Quality.
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My captain, my leader, my legend. The best ever. Miss you
The mistress of your wife
@@UnitedPacci oh good one...
@@UnitedPacci ..old and lame
💙💙
Weird.
Jose always had winners till he went to United and spurs, jose gets a lot of stick but people forget what he done and achieved .footballers have become to obbeseesed with social media half them think there models. It's what separates players from now to back then men against boys facts.
He won three trophies at utd. Dont tell me you dont think Zlatan is a winner cos he was part of that squad
Yeah but your job as a manager is to make sure this doesn't affect their performances. Beckham was a model... and Roy keane says he was one of uniteds best trainers.
@@rajyt4888 and what trophies did united win tinpot
@@chrynio13 Community Shield,Europa League, League Cup. i am just stating that mourinho still won stuff at utd cos Bernie Mooney was chatting about Mourinho didnt have winners. There was clearly zlatan,rooney etc
@@rajyt4888 You mean trophies a decade ago United fans would have rolled their eyes at winning as something beneath them? Good one.
The UEL draw was a joke that year especially.
Drink a shot every time you hear the word “ you’s “ you won’t be walking after...
Or "we was" "yous was"
Sounds like Joe Pesci in "My Cousin Vinny"...
hahahahaha
Considering the rivalry both on & off the pitch & the england thing,the respect shown from them both is fantastic
John terry was such a great CB. Utd fan
I loved Torres. As a Liverpool supporter for 60 years, the smoothest, most classy player we ever had. Him & Gerrard were a work of art. But he lost it.
"Torres was neves the same after the Liverpool match" John Terry. I knew it!!!!! Brilliant stuff.
Liverpool fan here. JT was class. Also a very likeable guy and honest here. I hated him in his playing days, but that was testament to how good he was. Both legends.
Loved at Chelsea from the moment he signed to the day he left. We got our money out of him.
Exactly. Besides he was more successful at Chelsea than at Liverpool. Carra, an average defender looking down on a legend of the game in Torres who has won every single trophy in the sport except Confed cup.
Claude Makelele I wouldn’t say Carragher was an average defender. He was good, not world class but good.
He made a fair assessment, Torres was on the decline and £50m was a price tag for the striker gone not currently there. Either way, he finished with a 1-3.5/.75 goal to game ratio at Chelsea. Score some important goals and gave absolutely everything when in a Chelsea shirt. He’s forever endeared himself to the fans and no matter what, he has a place at the bridge
@@oharleeno444 well said.
JT might steal you!
@@claudemakelele2856 glad to hear. I read comments re 'new foreign players scoring a couple of goals for LFC, getting their own songs, while the stalwarts that gave their all did not". So maybe also human that local club players felt a bit upstaged by a player like Torres who was so truly adored and the mutuality of it.
John terry undeniable premier league legend and one of the best centre halfs of the premier league era. This guy was always underrated.
At 8:00 is one of the better questions that has been asked in any of these conversations. As a United fan who saw him winning the UEFA Cup and then the Champs League with in all honesty a pretty average Porto side, seeing the success at Chelsea, and then winning the Champs League with Inter I was happy we hired him. However, for what ever reason "that" Jose had changed and in his place was someone who didn't seem to really enjoy what he was doing. Someone who came out and publicly criticized players, who it seems never had the full support of the dressing room. It is mind boggling that this keeps occuring in his career post his second stint at Chelsea considering how he was able to achieve 2 Champions League victories by getting the absolute best out of lesser players earlier on.
I think any team Jose manages has to have a very strong spine consisting of huge characters (not necessarily stars but characters). Without that, I think teams that he manages crumble under his intensity and the amount of pressure he puts on them - which causes them to rebel eventually.
On top of that, certain teams are just too good to park the bus against nowadays. Especially if you don’t have a Terry, Carvalho or Cole in your back line.
@@justlooking1087 Do you agree with John Terry that millenials can't handle or don't like that and should Mourinho change if that is the case?
ArranSiriTV Idk if it’s a Millennial thing, it could be but I wouldn’t make that case without the research to support it. Whatever it is, it does seem like he needs to change it.
Ricky Bowen most people don’t even know what a Millennial is though, it’s just a buzz word for them. The oldest Millenials are 39 this year, how many 39 year olds do you see playing top level football? Don’t just say things because they sound good.
@@justlooking1087 People both talk and think in cliches, for the most part. The median IQ in this country is about 100. You're not gonna get original thought from the vast majority of the populace.
Im surprised john Terry,s not in his Chelsea kit,
They don't offer an Off Script Trophy
Atleast torres won trophies when he left Liverpool. At the end of the day it was a good decision..can never forget his goal against barca.
Chelsea would have gone through anyways without that goal, that was just the nail in the coffin.
He said himself he won trophies so it was worth it but he never felt like he felt at Liverpool again so It was hard to judge whether it was the best thing for him. Considering his form and the way Liverpool where going id say it was. Although to see him and Suarez together as was the plan who knows.
Just added this to my downloads classic superb interview... like the conversation is just exciting and ful of freedom of expression between the lads.
Them Talking about prime Jose is sad. He was such a world class iconic manager. Sadly don’t think he’s at his best anymore
Yeah he’s past it feels like he’s trying to be what he once was but he’s just not at that level
True. However name a manager, SAF aside, who maintained their peak? It just doesn't happen. The game moves on. Just likes players who have 3-4 years of their absolute best.
@@Flipmode1900 the only other manager that maintained is peak was probably Jupp Heynckes, won the champions league with Real Madrid in 1998 and then 15 years later won the champions league with Bayern Munich. If he continued iafter 2013 I feel like he would have added a couple more to Bayern.
It was a revolution. But it’s passed now.
I'm a huge Stamford bridge stallion and when I was learning to swim I used to insist on only wearing one armband and would write JT LEGEND on it
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Schlong Terry...what a damn legend😂
In terrys time the statues at the bridge had to be taken down, he would LITERALLY have a go at anything
You always gotta watch your back around Terry in a heartbeat he would shag your dog even if he a best mate 🤣🤣🤣🤣
John terry best English defender we’ve ever seen
Tony Adams, Sol Campbell, Bobby Moore, Ashley Cole, Stuart Pearce all better than John Terry
They are all from different times u can’t compare them
Fifa and football News best English defender won’t tell you again
I agree
Would pay good money for Sky to interview both Rafa and Mourinho
That pay per view would be more expensive than wrestlemania 😂
A boxing match
Despite seeing it on many instances before, I am always amazed by how insane Carra's memory is
Torres will go down as one of the best foreign strikers in the PL, but that injury really ruined his Chelsea spell
It didnt, I mean no disrespect, carra and all the liverpool fans knew torres injuries had already killed him off, when Chelsea offered 50 million we all we happy to say goodbye as he was no longer the same player, he had 1 good game in all his last season, against chelsea. He maybe could have tried to get that yard of pace back but he carried on getting injured at Chelsea, for a player who relies on pace Chelsea where stupid too buy him in the first place. Torres sale was a longstanding butt of jokes for many years, still to this day cant believe a professional club like that took such a risk with 50 million, you only have to look at liverpool pulling out of Fekir deal cos of dodgy knee, it was like buying a car with a gear missing, it had the capability once to be really nippy but no longer had the equipment needed YNWA
@@joeexotic5831 I agree it was suicide, maybe they were looking too hard for Drogba's successor
@@sarveshsawant9564 You make a valid point, Torres was indeed and always will be 1 of the most talented foreign strikers to ever grace the premier league, taking a gamble on getting him back to the 2 or 3 seasons he was arguably the best striker in the world wasnt the issue, 50 million to take the chance was the issue. I will always remeber Torres for what he was and not what he turned into, ask any scouser el nino will always hold a place in their heart. They could never replace a monster like drogba Stay safe YNWA
@@joeexotic5831 Ofcourse he is a top striker. He came third in balon O dor behind Messi and Ronaldo
@@hopegaming867 totally, but we definitely sold him at the right time for 50 million to Chelsea as sadly his best days had already gone. YNWA
From the drogba lamps terry, carra Stevie era it remains 2-2 on cl semis an we played in the group an drew 0-0 both games, I remember cause I went to both 😒 but it’s always annoyed me, we knocked them out twice, they knocked us out twice, an it was never settled.
King Dan if only gudjohsen knocked in that sitter in the second half of the ghost goal game. Smh
Yep. But so many if’s an buts they could also say too they were great matches an I always scared of anfield on a European night, the best night we had there was the 3-1 when brana ivana scored 2 I think apart of me is still standing in anfield like this 🤷🏽♂️.....🤣 I was in shock! But they were great games, such a shame it was never settled
We knocked yous out in the semis and went on to win the final so we win
🙄 this is conversation between grown ups. Do 1 pal, I didn’t actaully expect a reply like that from a Liverpool supporter ur obviously an armchair fan.
seckie1001 yes 1 of them was a quarter it was the 4-4 ur right. As we then got screwed in the semi v Barca
As a liverpool fan it always makes me sad when i hear cara speaking.... not harshly but slightly negative about torres..... i will always love torres and even though he was on the decline when he left i will always have so many fond memories of that hair band and red shirt flying down the pitch....
Was thinking the same. He never took to Fernando. Every time he mentions Torres's name, its with a sneer. Belittling. Understandable to a certain extent. Torres was so insanely adored at Liverpool.
One of the greatest football conversations I've ever listened to! 👏
That was the best Jose. The First Chelsea Jose.
What I would give to go back to them times. What a fantastic era of football.
Greatest centre back of the pl era
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El Dio yeah and terry wasn’t bad either
You guys know he is talking about Terry right 😂
ismail adam Terry is not only the best defender to play in the PL, but the best goal scoring defender too
ismail adam Was part of the best defensive team in the prem only conceding 15 In season, with the most clean sheets of 24 games.
More of these kind of interviews, loved it!
Forcing JT to quit the England team due to what happened outside of football is a travesty...he was a solid defender for England.
The FA and Capello fucked up once they did that. Irregardless, its outside of football, it should have stayed there.
All players are replacable. Ferdinand is better than Terry, his International career should last longer than terry.
SS Tan on what planet was Ferdinand better than Terry
@@Tan92lfc Please tell me what century you were watching football in? Because I promise you it isn't the 21st. Terry partnered a defence that conceded 15 goals in a premier league, and lost only one match that entire season. A premier league record to this day. Had more clean sheets in his career than Ferdinand, and after Beckham retired waa given the captaincy because of his leadership qualities and die hard attitude towards the defensive side of the game. Vidic was a better defender than Ferdinand at United. Everyone knows that. Ferdinand might have had composure on the ball, but don't let that trick you to believe he was better than Terry.
@@Tan92lfc lol..taking the piss. Terry miles better
Torres was absolutely sensational at Liverpool.
My favourite player he could do anything.
Skilful, Fast, Direct, volleys, overhead kicks, top corners, he had it all.
He'll always be worth it for that goal against Barcelona alone.
We would have advanced without the Torres goal on away goals, still an important goal though since it looked like barca could score any second.
As a Chelsea fan and looking back to those times, I absolutely loved the games against Liverpool, mainly because I've always quite liked them as a club. Against clubs I truly hate (Man Utd, Arsenal) it was always much more stressful as a supporter.
I think the tension began around 2004-2006 as Chelsea and Liverpool kept meeting eachother in cup finals and semi finals very often around them times
And I have a mate who supports Liverpool (I’m Chelsea) and we got bored of playing each other after a while. I think people forget there were some proper stinker games between us and Pool in that period between 04-07.
Disagree I reckon seasons before when Chelsea beat them last day of the season and then the following on the first game of the season
Liam McCrellis I think the end of the season match that determined top 4 was the ignition but it was the League Cup final in 2005 and the CL semi final that the flames started to get out to control
these sorts of interviews are sooooooo much better than what we get in non lockdown, no time restraints and just people being real.... this is the way forward.. people just being real. its what every sports fan wants
what was weird was he was the golden boot winner in 2012 for the euros or was at least their topscorer but just couldnt do it for chelsea
tbf he only scored 3 goals and won bc he had an assist and had played fewer minutes than mario gomez. Also, that Spain team was arguably the greatest international side ever
@@joshuaarawole8589 that year Fabregas false-nining feckin everything it was a miracle Torres even made appearance and actually scored 3 goals.
i really love this banter between carra and jt haha
Never liked Chelsea or JT when he played but he’s been great in the couple extended interviews I’ve seen lately. These guys have great memories too, really impressive recall.
Carragher has got to be the best pundit about at the moment, asks good questions and the amount of facts and stats he knows off the top of his head is insane 🤯
How the hell does carragher remember the line up and score of everygame he has ever been in or not been in even. How he remembers he was with Wisdom and stuff is beyond me, when you consider he plays two matches a week for 12 years
Some people just have a memory like that for something they love. I’m the same. I can remember all sorts of facts and figures for games played years ago. I can still remember all the details from my first game I attended. I think a lot of people who love football are the same.
He reads up on it the night before and makes notes. His memory is good but he just does his homework on the subject aswell.
The same way fans do I would imagine. I think it's strange when players don't remember.
I don’t even remember the score in the game I am in half the time
17:34 I couldn't find the time stamp anywhere in the comments so here you go
“For us going into the stadium (Anfield), the atmosphere was the best I’ve ever experienced”
John Terry, April 2020.
Worth the quotation marks.
John McMahon yet stupid rival fans still say the atmophere is a myth? it’s clearly not
@@TU0399 Yeah people like DT from aftv but what do they know
Watch it again and he said “the home games” so he wasn’t talking about Anfield
Jake Walker stamford bridge is shite, never any atmophere
i must say i am LOVING these lockdown interviews,. The best content youve delivered IMO and gives a real insight into the life of a professional footballer Fair do's
24:02 JT confirms what I always knew. If you booed him he just gets 5% better. It never, ever worked.
Matthew Jamison for the first minute when they’re loud maybe, but then you can hear a pin drop for the rest of the game
Listen for me, I look back now and feel this was probably one of the best video around at the time. Couple of big characters who have achieved a lot in the game
I’m a Liverpool fan and I’ve always loved John terry,how could you hate a man for smashing chicks! Legend!!
ismail adam 🤷🏻♂️meh!! I would have smashed her too!! High five John Terry🖐🏻
Are you 12 years old?
OnceIWasYou shut it virgin
@ismail adam Wasn't his mates chick at that time. She was Bridges Ex at that time. Not defending him or saying I would do that same. But stop listening to the media and do your research.
@ismail adam he was bridge's ex not his girl
very very good conversation between these two.
Don’t like how terry gets so much more hate for getting with bridges wife, but rarely anything is said about giggs and his brothers woman
The rehabilitation of John Terry continues. Amazing to see people just talking to him normally, knowing what he is.
He’s didn’t score the goals like he did at Liverpool but he was massively underrated at Chelsea
Can you explain what made Torres underrated a Chelsea? He had a dismal time in blue!
Tiny yo
Dismal? He won more at Chelsea then Liverpool could ever dream of at the time LOL
If u watched the games everyone could see he never gave up, always running around working hard
He scored vital goals. Example:Ucl vs Barca in the semifinal
Tiny yo he scored vital goals in big games. His work rates were incredible. He created a lot of goals if they lead to him getting assists or starting an attacking leading to goals
Thought that was Steve Bruce giving the interview for a minute LMAOOOOOOO
Utd fan, but for me JT Is probably the best central defrnder in the premier league for the last 15 years
Jeff the interviewer starts of John I've got to ask you about the games between chelsea & liverpool , in comes carra & ends Jeff's role
Carra didn't let JT talk at all. Pissed me pff.
Jesus seen Terry talking about past days at Chelsea and how close they were it's amazing
10:06 “it’s a familiar story here at the Emirates Arsenal play the football, Chelsea have the goal” 💙💙
Terry seems like a chilled bloke
To save you watching it and wasting 40 minutes of your life you'll never get back.
Carra on Torres going to Chelsea.
17:40
"i couldn't believe it"
You're welcome.
Well, you are right as the title of the videos suggest. But let me say that there are so many interesting things other than the Torres Transfer that I found really amusing and interesting. That Terry saying, "We approach Chelsea board and asked to bring Jose back".
@@asadjang2 that means nothing because the players have zero power.
Their only role is to kick a bag of air and continually make spectators angry by feigning injury and being rewarded handsomely.
Thank you
Well, technically... not matter how much fun you’re having, you never really get any minutes of your life back
@@craigiboba that's right. But you can slow down time
Absolutely brilliant, this should be a regard feature in Sky Sports programming even after the lockdown is over
Seems like a decent fella, does Terry. (Can't believe I've written that.)
Decent fellas dont sleep with their best friends wife and get done for racism
He's solid for an interview. Not difficult to separate him on that to his antics on the pitch, as great a defender as he was tbh.
Double D slept with his mate’s ex-girlfriend and was acquitted of all charges in the Ferdinand case. Not saying he’s a decent bloke but what you’ve said is wrong.
@@Lfc15Lad yeah, sure, because the world is that simplistic. Good, bad. Right, wrong. Grow up.
@@5amH45lam its as bold as brass its a scum bag move. Dont be getting so touchy
i think this is not said enough but Jeff is a fantastic journalist. He always asks the best questions and thinks on his feet.
He won more trophies at Chelsea than liverpool
I don't think he did, think it's equal.
DS Intel He literally won nothing at Liverpool
@@jaredpillay9342 He did actually, he won a League cup, he joined just after Liverpool won the F.A cup and champion's league. He won the Champions league at Chelsea.
@Seto KaibaMate why u concluding something without even looking at the context, they are both trophies. I'm not saying they're both as good as each other. What more did he win at Chelsea then.
@Seto Kaiba U have an anime logo as your dp so I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you.
honestly growing up i hated watching john terry and his style but now i admire and understand how good he was as a center back one of the most underrated defenders in history of the premier league
Jamie Carragher is still trying to catch Jozy Altidore after he got turned in the 2010 world cup
can't believe they didn't mention the 7-5 Champions League quarter final in '09, absolute classic at the height of the rivalry
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Terry seems to talk a lot to his hierarchy.
“I said to Jose” “I said to Roman” “I said to the FA”
Jamie said at Liverpool we didn’t talk to the boss like that. We did what we was told. And realistically they weren’t all that successful week in week out back then.
Chelsea had massive success. But also massive failure after their success with Mourinho and it seems like their team was run by committee. when the manager couldn’t be overrrawed it was great a dresssing room full of leaders, when the manager was overrun by these leaders, it just lead to failure.
The best teams (Chelsea dominance era, Manu dominance era, now Liverpool dominance era) it seems are run like this but you need a manager who can handle and encourage big leaders in the dressing room. Later in Wenger’s career it seemed like he wanted no leaders except himself which funnily enough coincided with Arsenal’s downfall.
Sunny boy
A strong manager who is willing and able to handle strong leaders are good ingredients for a club to become dominant for a while. (Eg. Utd under Fergie with Keane, Ince, Bruce, Schmeichel etc. Eg. Chelsea under Mourinho for first two seasons with Drog, JT, Makalele, Lamps etc. Eg. The first team Wenger assembled at Arsenal with Viera, petit, the back 4, Wrighty etc before AW got obsessed with youth and finances. Eg the current Liverpool squad).
Without the strong manager the leaders clash with each other and the weak manager and the club underperforms (eg. Chelsea post-Mourinho).
Without the strong dressing room leaders you get mentally weak teams who choke. (Eg. Arsenal’s middle to late evolution under Wenger & maybe now Pep’s City ?? ).
@@thatguyaga1n totally right, we had like 5 or 6 national team captain in the dressing room real leaders. Now at Chelsea we might have almost the same level of talent as usual but way weaker mentally no vocal leader. I guess we need some of that again