With VAR...Would History of Football Be Different?
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Among all of these "mistakes", 2002 World Cup's are the most embarrassing imo
2018 WC Final with VAR was bad too.
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 😂😂
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 The title read as "VAR".. so I'm talking about the ref.. I'm sure there are plenty of football fans who aren't blaming everything on Korean national football team, just like me.. but you can't jump into every comments and force everyone to accept your opinion.. because, everyone have their own opinions, just like you.. anyways welcome to TH-cam
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 stop defending your country on every comment, the korean team sucked asses, Spain and Italy one were 2 golden teams. The referee was paid to help the Korean team to win the matches. But i think that korean players should have been more fair with their selves and say something about the terrible match but how you are showing in your comments koreans rather lie to their selves than accept the truth. (sorry for the English, is not my first language)
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 yea S.Korea won the match because of poor referees
To sum up - Korean team should have been given 2 red cards, Italy should have been awarded with two penalties and one goal after incorrectly raised offside flag.
Spain was deprived of 3 legitimate goals.
Fair enough
The most amazing one, imho, was Totti's second yellow. The referee was dozens of meters away and had his view completely covered: there's no way he could have judged the intensity of the contact to the point where he can be sure that Totti was simulating. Despite this minor fact, he proceeded to sprint 30m to wave the second yellow in his face.
And also had a penalty saved by a keeper who was clearly off the line when it was taken.
I actually disagree with the Italy game. Some yellow cards were indeed forgotten against Korea, but if you look closely there is absolutely not penalty on Totti and the offside call(or not) on Tomasi is to difficult to see on footage. Spain got robbed 100% though.
I actually disagree with the Italy game. Some yellow cards were indeed forgotten against Korea, but if you look closely there is absolutely not penalty on Totti and the offside call(or not) on Tomasi is to difficult to see on footage. Spain got robbed 100% though.
I actually disagree with the Italy game. Some yellow cards were indeed forgotten against Korea, but if you look closely there is absolutely not penalty on Totti and the offside call(or not) on Tomasi is to difficult to see on footage. Spain got robbed 100% though.
The refs from World Cup 2002 was stacked with money.
Totally
They gave him a Hyundai Sonata.
So embarrassing.
Refs were paid off by S korea.
@@mrkh84 Nah they were paid by FIFA to open Asia for market by letting S. Korea far. On other hand since who know when home team on W.Cup always get special treatment. England 66 France 98 Russia 2018 Brazil 2014 Korea/Japan 2002 more than half of them will not make it past group stage without refs help.
Must've been a good year to be a ref
Just remember. Everyone’s against VAR, until it favours their team.
Not true
only idiots are against var
Totally, VAR and goal line technology makes the game as fair and square as it gets. For me it's the offside rule that needs to be revised.
@@christianreinaldo8038 what's up with that
@@splash8429 the offside rule? I agree on Wenger's suggestion, he said if the body parts which are allowed to score (head, shoulder, foot) are in line with the last defender, it won't be offside. So if it's only your arm that's behind the last defender, it will still be counted as onside
World Cup 2002 is disgraceful, thanks to Germany who beaten South Korea
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 you are on every comment defending Korea.. its embarrassing. Germany twatted them . Thank god . No one likes a cheater so everyone was happy when the cheaters went out
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 what is your point both matches were clearly fixed for South Korea to win
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 are you genuinely stupid there is no debate the referees made incorrect decisions time and time again past what can be considered human error and that's why south Korea was able to win against Spain and Italy
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 because the bribe the ref.. had the ref was late in blew the wistle, He could just dismiss the goal for no reason whatsoever ... the time of wistle was blown is not an issue at all. Is this ur best defense??? Been reading all over the place ..tHe wIstlE bLew bEfOrE tHe GoAl that paid ref could blow anytime he likes and dismiss any goal he doesnt likes and let any player being killed by a korean.
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근
Time of whistle blown is not the case because the money was paid to the ref before way long before the whistle. Simple.. cheaters allowed to do whatever on the pitch including murderous attemp like nothings going on.
That Spain South Korea game was a complete joke
The Spain joke was incredibly rigged, Italy was awful too. In the Italy game, they should have had 2 pens and the "offside" goal while Totti didn't deserve a red and Korea deserved 3 reds. The Spain game was just blatant too, 3 perfect goals disallowed.
Did you hear about the Ref Byron Moreno who refereed the Italy game? in 2010 he was arrested for smuggling drugs, Moreno was arrested on 21 September 2010 at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York City, while trying to smuggle in six kilograms (over thirteen pounds) of heroin, which was hidden in his underwear.
@@blackmamba3060 thank god germany beat korea. Karma!
@@heisenberg7935 Any European team would have won against South Korea with a correct refereeing ... evidently they had decided that South Korea should at least reach the semifinals ... after this, they stopped with their jokes ... it would have been exaggerated if South Korea won the world cup ... the whole world would laugh. They avoided being ridiculous, but they didn't avoid the shame.
I’m part Korean, the games were shit just hate ppl saying they were rigged cuz I know Koreans wouldn’t rig it
That 2010 Ireland play-off was too heartbreaking.
I still remember how Damien Duff was crying after the final whistle. He was unfairly denied a last time World cup finals 💔
Oh. I didn't know Ireland had won the penalty shootout before the match even ended. Good for them. At least they won something heh.
@@Toghebon what
@@47eoghan47 The game was tied. It did give the qualification to France, but it didn't directly deny Ireland's. Had the goal been disallowed, that wouldn't automatically imply that Ireland was through
@@ZeZapatiste it did directly deny Ireland’s
@@47eoghan47 It didn't. It was a perfect tie. Ireland had either to score or win the shootouts.
Fiorentina and Bayern Munich in 2010, that 5 meter offside goal by Klose didnt only send Fiorentina out of Champions League. It also made Serie A lose its 4th place CL spot in favor for Bundesliga that had 3 CL spots at that time. The ref was Ovreboe, many remember him from Chelsea Barcelona scandal game
Che mondo stupendo che sarebbe stato con solo tre tedesche in CL..
@@antoniobrunetti120 lets sit and wait how your italian teams will fail in every single european competition for the next 5 years.
@@nein236 and thus Roma won the Conference League
I'm English, and though Lampard did score a valid goal, we were never going to win the match with David James in goal.
You're not wrong, Nathan. But we fell to pieces after that goal was disallowed, had it been counted we might've had a chance. A very slender one, granted!
@@leopold7562 yeah we did capitulate after that. Matthew upson, despite scoring, was sadly not world cup quality either.
Yeah, that’s the thing about it. You had momentum though after what should’ve been the second goal. It’s the defense and the goalkeeper that let England down. None of them were solid besides Ashley cole.
Capello himself was a joke then. Bringing Heskey to the squad and injuring Ferdinand.
@@GaryValentino69 Ferdinand was injured in 2010. Heskey was a joke though I agree
You forgot about Maradona's hand goal against England
It actually wasn’t his hand, he used his head believe it or not
@@Williamjohn-pg1ik Maradona himself admitted he did it, because he couldn't reach
@@Williamjohn-pg1ik Not.
@@Williamjohn-pg1ik i don't believe it because I have seen the handball from all angles and Mardonna said himself it was his hand -- so no he didn't use his head the ball was too high
@@Williamjohn-pg1ik his hand was above his head
Fun Fact: The "ref" from Italy vs Korea, Byron Moreno got caught with 6 kilos of heroin hidden in his underpants about 10 years ago. Not saying he fixed the game but if you try to smuggle 6 kilos of heroin in your underpants, then one might assume everything is possible for the person in question.
2002's Italy was something else
‘06 carried the torch pretty well.
The World Cup has some shocking refs from around the world.
indeed, most of these shocking moments are from world cup. Or maybe just because world cup is so popular 🤔
@@CalcioShowtv yes, I think the same, but Corea 2002 was a real joke
@@CalcioShowtv Because a lot of them are incompetent doing their job
@@CalcioShowtv can you give me music name/s?
bribed refs!
Dopo la partita italia-corea e spagna-corea mi è partita la sciabbarabba
si, comunque non è colpa dei coreani, quindi evitiamo razzismo nei loro confronti....
@@CalcioShowtv davvero? Mi hai aiutato, pensavo che avessero comprato le partite
Giggiosa :-D
Bho però non scordiamo il tipo di tifo che facevano nonostante avessero arbitri a favore
@@fabiocastelpietra6720 Secondo me non hanno rubato. Gli arbitri erano semplicemente scarsi e condizionati dal fatto che si giocasse in Corea.
Va anche detto che l'Italia in quella partita sbagliò diversi gol, quindi giusto che si prenda la responsabilità ancor prima che l'arbitro (che comunque ha influito)
0:50 one of the best assists in World Cup history.
*NEW ENTRY EURO 2020: PENALTY OF BELGIUM AGAINST ITALY END PENALTY OF ENGLAND AGAINST DENMARK*
Even with var I think you can make cases for both depending on who you want to win. I'm Italian and I flip flop between of it should have been a penalty shot or not. Var has definitely made the game more fair and letting play continue even if its offside so a shot can happen. Refs have callef it wrong and game off side goals can be reviewed, proving if they really were off side or not.
@@666strutter
The problem is that sometimes the referees can just *FLAT OUT REFUSE TO CHECK,* as they did in Belgium - Italy.
If he had, it would have taken him a total of 0.2 seconds to realize it absolutely was *NOT* a penalty.
Same wiht Denmark - England.
Then again, that referee had already managed to decree an offside from a corner kick ( 😂 ), so he simply shouldn't have been at Euro 2020.
@@happyslapsgiving5421 Its not a perfect system, but its better than just the eyes of the ref. Unless they force a ref to check, or the VAR team can overrule the ref, bad calls will always get through like in hockey
@@666strutter
Oh, I agree with you that VAR is better than no VAR.
I was making the *FURTHER* point that the VAR should be given more power and the refs less.
In 'Murican rugby, the coach of each team can use a certain number of calls each match to *REQUEST* what's basically a VAR check by the ref.
That's what we need.
Because you can have the greatest tool ever, but it's going to be worthless if one corrupted piece of crap can always choose not to use it.
England wins 1966 World Cup. Queen Elizabeth: I was there 3000 years ago.
They scored 3 goals fair so germany would loose anyways
@@genericname4068 but they scored a fourth
Wait, are you talking about 1966?
@@genericname4068 yes...
They would never have gotten the 4th without the third
The fact that the usa team could get to a semi final if there was var surprised me.
I'm starting to doubt some of the comments here know the difference between could and would. I never stated they would go to the next stage, but they had a chance, didn't they? Ps: my english sucks.
semi-final
@@CIMAmotor thanks for the correction
That team had very good talent: Landon Donovan, Brad Friedel, Claudio Reyna
it would be 1-1 even with the VAR. They still need to beat Germany to get into semi-final, not by not losing to Germany
Possibly a controversial opinion but I dont think that should have been a prn he had his hand in a natural position he isnt superhuman and couldnt have gotten that hand out of the if he tried
Edit: it was more ball to hand
France vs ireland breaks my heart
U forgot the most farcical moment of all time... The so called 'hand of god' story
'hand of god' > England's footballing history.
@@Mo-fu9sm ignorant
Albion is still crying that one, it seems.
before world cup 2002 starts, south korea already bought their place in the semis
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Gotta love your joke man
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 fair XDXD
No they didn't. You must be blind and need your eyes tested if you think the decisions weren't correct. Only thing korea is good at is making samsung phones.
@@sheedo1999 bakayarou
@yonGGeun Peter Starcraft 넹드래근 this one confirmed kelong
Nel mondiale del 2010 la Francia ebbe il premio che si meritava, l'uscita da ultima nel girone in un mondiale in cui non doveva proprio esserci
Concordo!
Perché?
@@nicolasinisi2910 gol ai playoff allo scadere contro l'Irlanda con un palese fallo di mano
@@samuforzapalermo8249 ah
Super d'accordo, se lo sono meritati, soprattutto quel pezzente di domenech
Surprised they didn't mention the 15/16 cl final. One of the most high profile examples
Ramos goal was offside
Others facts: Chelsea-Barca 2009, the Maradona's goal on hand in '86, fiorentina-bayern in 2010, Inter-Barca in 2010 and so many episodes in favor of Juventus in the Moggi's era
Il Mondiale del 2002 è stato vinto,alla fine,dalla squadra più forte,ma il cammino che hanno fatto fare alla Corea,è una delle pagine più vergognose del calcio
I poi forti eravamo noi, ma guidati da schifo....abbiamo meritato di uscire, ma eravamo fortissimi...
Per chi non capisse l'inglese a 0:39 dice"eravamo nello spogliatoio a piangere quando l'arbitro è entrato per chiederci scusa per l'errore"
*Sto facendo video più inglesi per aver vis. internazionali e portare questo canale a un milione di iscritti (aspettando che yt faccia un aggiornamento che consenta di cambiare la lingua principale del video...)
Ottimo lavoro
Non si capisce anche perché di Milan-Juve 2012 non si parla del pugno di Mexes a Borriello, del gol regolare di Matri, cioè si capisce ❤️❤️❤️ p.s. e il gol del cesena annullato contro la Juve? Quello si che fu scandaloso! 😂😂😂
Fai benissimo
can you give me song names?
@@RLP3STARS Din-don, din-don, din-don, din-don: intervengo da Cesena, ma nessuno ha fatto gol! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Thanks for an excellent and well-made video!
For anyone who is a critical thinker, and doesn't believe that South Korea "pAiD thE ReFs" in their WC 2002 run to the semifinal, maybe you will find this interesting.
I watched every single game of WC 2002 last summer, scrutinising the officiating. I even made a small blog about it. Anyway - here is what would have happened with VAR in operation for Korea's games vs. Italy and Spain:
vs. Italy, Moreno
- early penalty would have been confirmed (FIFA asked the refs to crackdown on holding at this tournament too)
- penalty would have been retaken, Buffon was off his line
- the after-the-whistle elbow scene at the 2H was managed sensibly by the ref (warning to both), no cards / intervention
- Korea would have had a red card at 69' for a brutal foul on Zambrotta
- the kick-to-the-head on Maldini should have resulted in a yellow card, so no VAR intervention here
- Totti's SYC would have been supported, FIFA specifically asked refs to punish exactly this kind of diving at this tournament
- Rattalino would have delayed his flag for Tommasi, and Italy might/probably would have scored a golden goal
vs. Spain, Al-Ghandour
- after thirteen minutes, Spain would have been down to ten men after an SFP foul missed by the Egyptian ref
- the disallowed goal in the 1H would have been confirmed; it was a correct call, the HD broadcast replay shows this (not available on SD broadcast, aka the one that was used at the time)
- Ragoonath would have (hopefully, though maybe not given how poor this guy was...) delayed his flag and Spain would probably have scored a golden goal
- Tomusange would have delayed his incorrect flags in extra time, and Spain wouldn't have been denied a (golden) goal if they scored those chances
- Joaquín's saved penalty would have been ordered retaken
So it's a more mixed picture than the narrative plays out. The real scandal is NOT Byron Moreno or Gamal Al-Ghandour, who (believe it or not), were both very competent refs, but the sending of assistants Tomusange and especially Ragoonath to the Spain game. That was done simply for FIFA politics, because Blatter needed the support of African and Asian associations to have secured his presidential re-election that summer.
I hope somebody finds this comment interesting :)
I wonder if U r a ref, excellent pov 👌👌👌
What about Brazil? Everyone talks (and with reason) about Korea, but Brazil were clearly getting help from refs too in that WC. The match against Turkey was a disgrace, and they also got help against Belgium
@@aleg2716 thanks for the question! How I'd review the officiating of Brazil's matches in 2002
/ vs. Turkey, Kim Young-joo
A weird appointment tbh, I guess that FIFA underestimated Turkey a bit - and politics was a big part of it too.
Chung Mong-joon from S. Korea was a very powerful man inside FIFA since the mid-90s, and his vision was for a WC in Korea with a top class Korean referee taking charge of some matches. You can see exaggerated appointments for Korean linesmen in 1994/98 thanks to Chung's influence (Park Hae-yong was not one of the best in the US, but he still officiated a QF at Don's side; Jeon Young-hyun in 1998 was more-or-less totally incompetent and had a total nightmare in Italy vs. Austria game where he was rejected and sent home).
So the guy Chung wanted to push towards WC 2002 was Kim Young-joo. He even wanted him to officiate at WC 1998, but Chung was defeated because: a) Kim was too weak (his performances at Asian Cup 1996 were reported as disastrous), and, b) Asian refereeing had another strong lobbyist, Farouk Bouzo from Syria, who always pushed for Arab officials to get the best matches, and so Abdulrahman Al-Zaid from Saudi Arabia was chosen instead of the Korean. Al-Zaid had good performances so FIFA made a good choice.
Chung lobbied for Kim to get top matches to prepare him for WC 2002. He officiated hot derbies United States vs. Mexico and Iran vs, Iraq, in addition to the first leg of the AFC playoff in qualification matches so he could gain experience ready for his home WC. On balance, it is hard to say whether FIFA realised that this Brazil vs. Turkey was going to be as hard as it was for the referee, whether they did and thought Kim was up to it, or that it was just a high-profile match which would be easy to referee, so Kim could then officiate a next match, eg. in the knockout round.
As mentioned, this match was EXTREMELY challenging to referee, one of the hardest of the whole tournament. To be fair to Kim Young-joo, for the first eight-five minutes, he did a very solid job indeed. But he totally f---ed it up at the end…
The reason he ended up giving a penalty for Alpay’s holding was that he panicked too much. You can see he initially grabbed a yellow card, before realising that he had to send off Turkey’s defender. After that, he sh*t his pants because he wasn’t really focused on whether the offence was inside or outside the box. So he basically guessed and chose a penalty; completely wrong. :/
The assistant referee, who was actually one of the highest rated by FIFA, Salvadorian Vladimir Fernández, HAD to press the buzzer on his flag and inform his team leader that the offence was outside, but for some reason he kept quiet. Kim lost control of the game after that, and while Hakan Ünsal was correctly sent off for kicking the ball at Rivaldo, the officials made themselves look like idiots by not booking the Brazil player for his ridiculous dive.
Refereeing, like life, can be pretty unfair sometimes. Kim Young-joo had a very good performance for almost all the match, but he basically couldn’t deal with the pressure at the end and made huge mistakes. For all Chung’s work to try and get his top referee, Kim showed unfortunately that he wasn’t up to such a challenging match.
/ vs. China, Anders Frisk
Nothing really happened in this game, the Swede should have sent off a China player for pulling down a Brazil attacker on the way to goal, but he had pity on the Asian debutants, and only gave a penalty.
/ vs. Costa Rica, Gamal Al-Ghandour
Again, very quiet match to ref. Al-Ghandour probably should have sent off two Costa Rica players (at least, definitely one) for dangerous tackles, but on both occasions, he gave no card at all.
/ vs. Belgium, Peter Prendergast
The other big controversy involving Brazil in popular understanding. I don’t want to be the guy who always defends the refs, but from the live sequence, it does look like to me that Wilmots does nudge his opponent before jumping for the header. If that isn’t the case, then a really terrible decision from the Jamaican referee of course.
Prendergast refereed the rest of the game (and his other game, Russia vs. Tunisia) without any real problems, but I think the Jamaican ref was more fortunate that he faced two easy games than being a real top-class official. Probably, infamous Jack Warner wanted to get another appointment for a Caribbean official - and satisified, he lobbied for his compatriot Ragoonath to run the line on Spain vs. South Korea, and we all know how that went…
/ vs. England, Felipe Ramos Rizo
The big decision went against Brazil this time, Ronaldinho being (IMO correctly) sent off for a dangerous challenge on Danny Mills. The Mexican referee was very strict against the worst fouls throughout the competition, and gave a straight red card in all three of his matches. Ramos Rizo wasn’t the fittest, but overall his performance in this game was good.
/ vs. Turkey, Kim Milton Nielsen
The lenient Dane was perhaps the best referee of them all in WC 1998, but four years later, he was much poorer in my opinion. The football was rougher than four years ago, and Nielsen didn’t adapt.
FIFA selected him for this game to avoid controversy, not because they thought he deserved a semifinal. He was way too lenient in this game, more-or-less refusing the issue yellow cards even for blatant shirt pulls, and the players didn’t really respect him.
However, besides not sending off Hasan Şaş for leg-breaker at the end of the game, Nielsen didn’t really face any big calls in this game. I strongly disliked this performance, but neither Turkey nor Brazil could really complain afterwards, which is what FIFA wanted.
/ vs. Germany, Pierluigi Collina
As we know, Collina is considered the best referee in the world by almost everyone - but his performance in the WC final wasn’t very good! While he started well by issuing two yellow cards, he preferred the stay in the background after that, and let the players get away with too much.
More controversial than both the Turkey and Belgium games should be Collina choosing to not send off Cafú after a leg breaking foul on Jens Jeremies! I am sure that the Italian saw the incident clearly, but chose the path of least resistance and didn’t issue Cafú a deserved red card.
That decision changed the final. Brazil were obviously a more technically able team than Germany in 2002, but the game was still nil-nil at the time of Cafú’s foul. Ronaldo scored his first goal two minutes later, and that was that. I am surprised that this clear mistake by the Italian ref was not highlighted more by the media after the game.
Balance:
The big scandal match was the group stage clash against Turkey, where Kim Young-joo decided the game with an awful decision to award a penalty for Alpay’s holding which was clearly outside the box. Refereeing at the WC is an ultra-high pressure environment, and unfortunately the Korean referee failed at a decisive moment. Even if his performance was really solid before that, the appointment remains questionable IMO.
Besides that, there are only two isolated decisions which stand out to me as being really controversial: Wilmots disallowed goal and Cafú staying on the pitch in the final. If you decide that both of those were clear mistakes, then it would be fair to say that Brazil were extremely fortunate with ref’s decisions at key moments in the tournament.
However, there wasn’t a trend throughout the tournament of gifting Brazil decisions all the way through, and to suggest that even some referees favoured them (like Korea) on purpose, is crazy.
(I guess you didn't want such a long answer, so sorry, but it is a complex question to address, and I hope I did it okay! :))
@@papihgato thanks! :) I'm glad that you found it insightful, most people just accuse me of being blind or Korean (I'm from England!) when I try to explain that referees were not bribed at WC 2002
The more I think about it, the weirder it gets - if people genuinely believe that FIFA rigged games, then why do they still watch football, and not WWE instead? :DDD it's a weird paradox IMO
Anyway, thanks again and am always happy to answer more questions about WC refereeing as I am a bit of an expert :P
Ok so elbowing someone in the face is fine as long as you’ve done it after the ref blew his whistle
Please add
- Belgium vs Germany in USA WC (Roethlisberger referee not awarding penalty)
- Belgium vs Brazil in Brazil WC (Wilmots scores, referree cancels although valid)
- Belgium vs England in Italy WC (simulated foul leads to UK scoring)
I'm not 100% sure, something tells me that you are Belgian 🤣
And I bet that u are "Belgian"?
You forgot the kick on Maldini's head on Italy vs South Korea, such a despicable player whoever was
they missed so much things from both the Spain and Italy games
@@ajanthony1356 its because they could make a half an hour video with all the stuff that happened in those games
Fintan Courtney lets not talk about the refs being paid, are you being paid to defend spain/italian world cup players from 20 years ago ? it was a terribly refereed match but the amount of people who still care so desperately like you need to get a life
@@noahwhang because it shows how easy it's to prove Korean can't win if VAR was implemented.
@@noahwhang because korean can't even win if the ref wasn't paid. The Indian ref in the italy match was later jailed for drug trafficking. Also later on Korea never made it out of group, even with their best players at the moment. CLearly they wouldn't have a single chance to win any match back then.
that south korea WC was insane. Lampard goal killed a piece of my heart, I was obsessed with football before that moment but to be so blatantly cheated at the highest level was crushing
Imagine being an arsenal fan. We've suffered most from shit moronic refereeing.
Yes, the red favoured us in the fa cup 2020 final. We deserved it. 10 fking years of shit decisions against us. We deserve to cheat in one final.
I mean England cheated to win the world cup in 66.. They cheated to get to the final of Euro 2020.. So don't feel bad.
What was so blatantly about that goal it was for less than moment in and then got out it was easier to see that 66 wasn't goal than this was because in both cases ball goes out of goal and mistake like that occur a lot
@@icandothisallday986 no one cares about arsenal banter club
@@Facelessman254 England never cheated, the referee just made the wrong decision. They didn't have VAR, the players probably thought at the time it actually had gone in the net, it's an understandable mistake
4:15 when you casually leave a trail aura in a soccer game
Football game
1966 WC final, 2002 US Germany and the 2012 Serie A Championship would've just needed goal line technology.
I didn't know Juventus played in Milan
@@GagzoD82 thanks for the hint.
Glad VAR is a thing. This is a great video, and imagine the history and how everything could’ve been different back then. Only ones crying about VAR are the ones who abuse it for every little thing
Anche nella semifinale di Champions tra Real e Bayern, assolutamente un furto
E poi anche nei quarti la volta prima
e i quarti con la juve 3-1...
sarebbe da fare un episodio sul tela in champions
@@giovannigiacomini5561 Già
Direi anche a Roma Liverpool con Arnold che para il tiro di El shaarawy di mano sulla linea di porta
People forget that the Barcelona-Atletico match was part of a 38 round league (La Liga). If youre going to use VAR on that one then you would also have to use it on every other match, and if you did that I guarantee you Atleti would have already been champions before the last fixture. They received some attrocious ref decisions against them that season on quite a few occassions.
Madrid fanboy spotted lmao!
@@yubakadi217 Yeap, I am a HUGE Atleti fan since the 80s. Well spotted.
Good point, mate.
Funny how we all forget Ireland shouldn't have played that playoff game in the first place, since they also beat Georgia with a wrong handball decision
What ?
Really?
Some forgot you mean
si ok l'arbitraggio scandaloso di Moreno, ma qualcuno mi spiega come ha fatto Maldini a farsi anticipare di testa da un coreano di 1.60m ?
Può capitare a tutti, con i nervi a fior di pelle diventa anche pi difficile giocare
Ehm ti ricordo che se lo anticipava andava a piangere da moreno
I coreani facevano una caccia all'uomo e l'arbitro non fischiava mai. Maldini aveva ricevuto un calcio in testa intenzionato. E non è stato sanzionato. Ad un certo punto giocavano impauriti.
Per com'era andata la partita fino a quel punto se lo avesse anticipato, il coreano dopo avergli tirato una gomitata in faccia sarebbe caduto a terra e quel rifiuto organico di moreno gli avrebbe dato il rigore
E come ha fatto la Spagna con quello squadrone a perdere i rigori? Evidentemente tenevo i nervi così a fior di pelle che non riuscivano più nemmeno a fare due palleggi
Se fossi stato uno di quei calciatori avrei staccato la testa all'arbitro con le mie mani
si così ti squalificano per più stagioni e non puoi più giocare
@@aconfa9780 non credo, una volta scoperto lo scandalo penso mi avrebbero tolto la squalifica😂
@@aconfa9780 Maldini lo poteva fare tanto era il suo ultimo anno con la nazionale poi con il Milan aveva già vinto 3 Champions League
Se mia nonna avesse le ruote sarebbe una carriola.
@@johnvanderbalenke611 Severo MA giusto
I really wanted South Korea to win in 2002 because I love an underdog, plus they were genuinely a decent side, but looking back I'm glad they didn't; that team was tarnished by obvious corruption which is harsh on the players themselves who probably had nothing to do with it. With the 1988 Seoul Olympics producing similar corruption controversy I'd be surprised if it isn't a while until South Korea host an Olympics or World Cup again
Good stuff, Calcio!!
Excellent video.
Makes me happy that we have VAR now and at least everything will get a 2nd look.
World cup 2002 is the biggest scandal in history of football😂😂
...and this was without including the red card in the Brazil/Turkey game...
Then why didn't South Korea beat Germany in the semis?
1966
nope, the WC in Qatar.
@@sebastianelytron8450 due to karma?
love the documentary style, what a great vid
2002 is in a category all to itself. There were many other incidents as well, and not just in those two games. It was systemic throughout.
David Jordan,nothing has changed mate. The game is,was,and always will be corrupt to it's core. VAR is being very selective as to which situations are scrutinised.
Yes, it was definitely a disasterclass when it came to referring
so many injustices. and it’s not even half of them.
the list is long, like mano de dios, Algeria, the biscotto etc.
but the worst is probably korea. that was to me the most disgraceful and shameful thing of all football history.
it’s not just one “mistake” that change the course of the game.
it’s 2 horrific games where the referee was disallowing regular goal, giving red for nothing, not giving red for MMA style elbows.
a lot of the mistakes in the video could still be considered mistakes. it’s just bad luck. referee might just not have seen right.
but korea was pure fifa corruption. just as qatar world cup designation.
and even with var, at least how it is used today. it would probably be not enough because referee has the final decision anyways.
he could still say no it’s offside or it’s a red card for me.
maybe if the mistake is too big he would possibly change the decision. to avoid being assaulted by players, staff or fans.
but in a lot of cases he could still be very damaging.
not to say what happens if the whole var team is also corrupted.
That guy would probably be beaten to death in some countries, if he does all that. Well...he is in prison for bribery, but the results never changed.
I agree var wouldnt have change anything, because it was rigged and ref decisions would've always went againts italy and spain
Algeria got screwed over, didn’t help that the Vice President was German.
Underrated video, should have at leat a mil views. Very good 👍
You forgot Barcelona against Chelsea in 2009, and against Arsenal where Van Persie got a red card for nothing
4:12 ricordiamo sempre che per Ronaldo il brasiliano questa partita fu regolare perché l’Italia ebbe occasioni per vincere ma non le sfruttò.
Peccato che quella Italia avrebbe vinto quel titolo lasciandolo in una valle di lacrime.
Proprio guarda. L’Italia dove superare Spagna e Germania. Oltre al Brasile in finale ovviamente.
Oltretutto parliamo di un giocatore che era dell’Inter. E da milanista ti dico che giustamente ha detto che Moreno ha arbitrato bene in rapporto a quello che lui aveva visto nel 97-98 e nel 01-02.
E nel 98 c’erano due rigori non dati su di lui in semifinale contro lOlanda e il Brasile vinse ugualmente. Il senso era quello.
Ovviamente non concordo sul senso perché l’arbitro non dovrebbe incidere per nulla e con Italia e Spagna incise parecchio
Che poi col rigore inventato contro lAustralia e la non espulsione di Materazzi in finale ci hanno ripagato con gli interessi
As an English man I can comfortably say Lampard's goal wouldn't have changed anything.
Yeah. Spain had that World Cup wrapped up from the start.
@@LeeH688 Why?
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the score was 2:1 at the moment and should become 2:2
The game was not over if it was 2-2. All possibilities would have been on the table.
@@Abood99222 Germany was the clear better side. They would have won anyway
4:35 Surprised he didn't send Del Piero off for simulation
Gran vídeo, saludos desde España
Keepers could actually leave their line back in those days
South Korea should be dand form football history. This is not fair for Italy and Spain
That's one way of looking at it.
Remember Michael Ballack pulling Ahn's shirt when running on goal, when the score was 0-0 with 20 minutes left to play in the semi-final..?
Yeah ban south korea, most shite footballing nation ,as well as the most ugly
1:24 this should be the thumbnail, for sure
Maradona would be frowned upon as he himself said he used his hand in lots of major tournaments
Great video
Why didnt you get Matri's goal that was wrongfully disallowed for offside liba kollok
This comment deserves more attention
Che nervoso a guardare questo video. Aumenta poi quando spesso si trova molta gente contro il var
You forgot the 2009 Chelsea vs Barcelona match
i remember watching that match. one of the shameful referee’s outcomes of all time. clearly a rob
@@PRT976 That match was poorly refereed in general. Everyone talks about decisions that went barcas way, but no one talks about all the missedred cards and penalties that weren't awarded to barcelona.
@@FraYooo Probably because people are driven from social media & follows sheep Nature. never seen a neutral sayin it was a robbery after watching two legs as a whole. Mostly Bandwagons are under 15 years of age. Cannot expect them to understand well
@@FraYooo yikes man, poor but it advantage barca so much more, and in the end ovrebo sacked from his job, and aytekin got scolded for his 2015.
We will just turn blind eye on abidals red card and call it robbery
- chelshit fan
Che nervoso mi fanno salire 'ste cose, ahah
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@@fabulous1802 It's really difficult, I'm sorry
You should make a part 2 of this
3:20 It's an obvious goal but the double save from Buffon was absolutely crazy!
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Craziest thing of this whole video is upson started and scored for England vs Germany
Yes!! No one remembers Upson's goal
Milan was reigning champions when this happened. The accidents helped Juve stay in the game and ended it with a draw.
Milan was in a decline that year because their pillars were mostly old guards.
This is a small incidents to change the course of Italian football, yes, even for me a Milanista. But after this season, Milan had to sell Ibra and Thiago Silva, our best players to "balance the book" and went to prolonged banter era.
BaNtEr ErA - you were doing so well up until that point.
Juventus also got 1 goal removed for a non existant offside in that game
Wow, as an Asian (not Chinese though, or Korean) that two South Korean match is such a wtf.. So many things are such a faulty and error.. Idk if it's a really bad refereeing or something else.. But man that two match really have the worst possible reff
Negli altri continenti: colpa dell'arbitro
In Italia: La JuVe RuBa
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH negli altri paesi è colpa dell'arbitro, in Italia è stato attestato che la Juve rubava😂😂
Se avesse dovuto fare il video solo sulla juve il video sarebbe durato 3 giorni.
@@antoniopannain429 Da tifoso del toro ti dico che non è vero...
Molti erano anche solo errori arbitrali
@@luisitomuriel9 purtroppo non studiare legge fa dire ancora tutt'oggi fin troppo scemenze
@@luisitomuriel9 come è attestato che lo ha fatto l'Inter *spoiler*
Real Madrid wouldn’t have won three UCLs in a row
Na they would have bought VAR instead
Also the Barca vs PSG 6-1 wouldn't have happened
@@anuragrai1520 Barca didn't win UCL that year anyway
@@anuragrai1520 And I doubt PSG would have beat Juve
and barca would only have 1 cl, so shut up.
In the 1966 WC final, Germany score a last second equaliser to take the game to extra time (2-2) but that goal had a handball in the build up, it would have been interesting to see what VAR would have done with that goal.
England still won
It would've been disallowed. England would've won 2-1 and we wouldn't be hearing about about ghost goals, "Russian" linesmen, and all the other nonsense from salty Germans.
Not forgetting Hurst''s "goal" that never crossed the line- the fix was in for Eng;land in that tournament.
@@mizofan If the fix was so in why did the ref give that dodgy foul that led to the last minute German equalizer?
You have to check the other games too, because every game before the end of season or final or knockout stage is equally as important.
Funny fact: Queen Elizabeth was there!
Nope!
@@Williamjohn-pg1ik you hate England huh?
@@Yamcha291 Yes
ai mondiali del 2002 la Korea è stata palesemente aiutata dagli arbitri, chissà per quale pazzesca coincidenza i mondiali erano proprio in korea
You could do a champions league one, Barca Chelsea and Barca inter would be good options
2:46 the moment that the Irish guy was born out of pure hatred
Imagine the hand of god with VAR lol
Should've included Barca vs Chelsea 2008/09
@TLFCB & @Snehal Nayan:
Don't forget the 2005 John Terry "winner"
and the same Italian referee who should've been forced to retire,
but was allowed do the exact opposite with Duncan Ferguson's apparent non-equaliser in eastern Spain the following August,
before endorsing a certain car manufacturer for a living through his new-found celebrity index.
Those were the days...
@TLFCB Not to mention Eto'o's goal ruled out for offside even though he was onside and Henry being denied a clear penalty in the 1st leg and then Barcelona denied another penalty (handball on Ballack) in the 2nd leg. Tbf, in the 2nd leg, there were decisions that went against both teams but overall, there were more decisions that went against Barcelona in both legs.
Avrei anche messo l'episodio del tocco di mano di Lovren in Roma 4-2 Liverpool, semifinale di UCL
The South Korean Run of 2002 pisses me off so much. This many years later.
Lampards disallowed goal is an absolute disgrace to the word referee, how the f#$k was it not a goal!?!? it still winds me up to this day FFS!!!
To be fair in 66 England's goal like that was allowed so this should've been allowed but maybe we got karma for 66
You would think in 2010 there would have been a way for anyone with authority to see the replay on tv to know it was a goal.
oh well, don't forget Hurst's world cup final "goal" that never crossed the line.
Io volevo andare a dormire con la tranquillità in corpo, ma no, perché ho rivisto Italia-Korea. Grazie! Un po' ti odio e un po' però ti voglio bene comunque
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Henry should've gotten a red card for that hand ball !
Ottimo contributo storico-sportivo. Potresti mettere anche la famosa partita del morso a Chiellini con indegna espulsione di Marchisio: almeno 2 fattacci clamorosi contro di noi.
Real Madrid vs Bayern...? The greatest robbery of all time...
Barcelona vs PSG and Juve vs Real Madrid
Barcelona vs PSG,Barcelona vs chelsea are the biggest robberies in CL history.Even real madrid won it with big difference where the wrong decisions wouldn't actually change that result.Barca literally cheated their way to become champions twice.
@@jimabrahamguillaume3301 Chelsea tried to rob Barcelona in 2005, 2006 and 2009 and still failed to knock them out 2/3 times. Barcelona cheated? Seems to me like you didn't actually watch any of those games. I suggest you go back and watch them because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
@@mcdafold i know what I'm talking,oy barca fans can't accept that lol.😆😆
Tanto a parlare sul gol di Muntari ma tutti si scordano nel gol in gioco annullato a Matri nella stessa partita
Perché non sarebbe esistito se Muntari avesse segnato, non sarebbe andata in quel modo la partita
@@MAXIMUS-fd4pr il non gol di Muntari non sarebbe esistito se si fossero accorti della prima infrazione che viene commessa in quella azione, ovvero robihno che da calcio d'angolo la appoggia a emanuelson che si trova fuori dal campo...
@@BobMarioITA perché non sarebbe regolare, scusa?
@@thomashubbard5861 cioè seguite uno sport come il calcio senza saperne le regole? Durante un corner non la puoi passare ad un compagno che si trova fuori dal campo
@@BobMarioITA Nel regolamento ufficiale vengono descritte situazioni assurde (per es. un autogol direttamente da calcio d'angolo) ma non viene menzionata un'infrazione del genere... nel testo (Regola 17) si fa riferimento alla squadra avversaria, i cui giocatori devono stare ad una certa distanza dal pallone, ma non viene data alcuna indicazione sulla posizione dei giocatori della squadra attaccante. Mi viene ancora il dubbio e chiedo chiarimenti.
3:16 in that Ac Milan vs juventus
One juve goal was clear onside but it was called offside.
2:19 WOW THIS IS 🤯
The England Germany game was some poetic justice
Not really as it was not the all-important final. It was a lot clearer a mistake too. Few in England moan about it as our team was pretty awful.
No, 1966 was a 50/50 case. There's a case to be made that the ball did went in, that video was being a little disingenuous to be honest. No such case in 2010. I know it's fashionable to rag on England but let's not pretend that that the two cases are on the same level.
With VAR, Madrid wouldn't have won even one of their three consecutive UCLs.
It was horrible 2002 against Korea. I was 22 years old watching unfair match, referee and result. It hurt me a lot.
Mans didn’t even bother adding hand of God 😂
Barcelona vs chealsea - both legs (stramford bridge night will never be forgotten)
Argentina vs england - 1986
Argentina vs Germany - penalty 1990
Atlético nacional copa libertadores 1989 (Pablo escobar) and 2016
Argentina vs Brasil - last Copa América
The 3 champions league in a row of Real madrid - plenty of important "mistakes" in crucial moments
Colombia vs Brasil - 2014
Uruguay vs Ghana - 2010
Bayern vs Real madrid semifinal
Plenty of mistakes for Boca and River plate in the superliga Argentina and in Copa libertadores (Boca is always accused of paying the referee back in their golden era 99'-2004)
Independiente vs colo colo - Copa libertadores final 73' (I think)
And I cant remember more moments that should have change history with VAR
"Argentina vs Germany - penalty 1990" both situations? Cause it was kinda equal injustice
5:17 “Lay on the ground, you‘ve been robbed”
Bruh 😆
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Make the part 2, barca vs chelsea 2009, barca vs arsenal 2011, barca vs madrid 2011, madrid vs atletico 2016 final, madrid vs munchen 2017, liverpool vs roma 2018
A bit strange that there isn’t more technology at high-level sports. Maybe because there’d be a tough transition from all the years leading up to pro level to all of the sudden having to play with machines
Juventus - Milan Vorrei ricordare che sul 1-1 viene annullato un gol a Matri per fuorigioco, mentre era posizione regolare...Cosi...
Sull'1 0 in realtà....
Io se ero il presidente della fifa avevo Esculapio per 5 volte l'esclusione della Corea al mondiale
Era blatter. L'antiitaliano. Lui era felice di questo. Ti ricordo che nel 2006 si rifiutò di scendere in campo per premiare l'Italia. Blatter era più sporco di moreno e della corea.
E la grammatica dove l'avresti messa?
This video shows that how really small things can change the whole history of the world
The only ugly side about VAR is the "excitement". Back then when goal happen, referee blow the wistle and point at middle spot.. we all jump, we all scream, celebrate..! Now after goal we see each other, hope.. silently.. after 2-3 minutes then the excitement goes by..
im 43 years old, Spain scores 3 regular goals, but, the 3 goals were unjustly canceled.......i never ever saw this shit in my entire life in a football game, never ever !
Nel "gran dossier" su juventus Milan manca il gol annullato a Matri per fuorigioco inesistente.
Certo, col Milan che doveva già state due a zero e che si sarebbe chiuso in difesa. Incomparabili
...e l'espulsione di Mexes al primo minuto del secondo tempo per il pugno a Borriello a palla lontana.
@@albertosigala531 forse del rosso per simulazione di boriello visto che mexes manco lo tocco'. Juventini senza vergogna
@@ippolitomarchesi7352 FORZA MILAN!! ❤️🖤
Rosso for montari bumel and mexes