Oprah didn’t pressure him enough. The interview was on his terms, even though at the beginning she said no holds barred. He was too comfortable in that interview, she should have made him squirm.
I mean not really... Look up the definition of cheat. it is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.". When the other athletes were also taking performance-enhancing drugs, he was actually compensating for a disadvantage by stepping up to their level. While we all know the rules, in the real world the only rule is what you can get away with. With that said and him being on the same level as other athletes, he still had more mental drive than the rest. The same applies to bodybuilding and many other sports. In my opinion, he is still above them if for anything by telling the truth and being honest about how the game is truly played.
The amazing thing is that Oprah doesn't appear to understand how much she allowed Armstrong to get away with not saying. He only weakly admitted taking drugs, but did not go into any incriminating detail. Nor did he implicate anyone else. The interview was shameful broadcast journalism, for failing to ask the most important questions that needed to be asked. What about the involvement of other higher up people that allowed him to get away with taking drugs (EPO, etc)? Who else knew (UCI, etc)
Just cause most people do it doesn't make it right. Many men beat their spouse. So therefore it's ok if you do? Breaking the rules is breaking the rules. All that break should be banned.
Dude everyone has been saying it. It is a fact that most people in armstrong's era have doped. It is not an assumption, it is factual. Why do you think people say it's impossible to complete unless you dope in that era? Doping is a culture in cycling as stated many times from armstrong, hamilton and other cyclists
Did he do what he did (in doping) to to maintain his status for those he was helping or did he do it to support his ego? If not for himself; then the road to hell is truely paved with good intentions. Some of this world's greatest successes spring from the greatest failures and how he handles this from here on will define who he truely is! I believe he has a huge oppertunity here to make an even greater difference! To become a true hero. Humble yourself Lance, Be very humble and learn from this!
They all missed the most important reason. He says at one point that he's coming forward but he knows it's 'too late'. What that may have meant is that for some lawsuits the statute of limitations had expired. Quite clever if true.
there's one in every crowd! Courage and bravery?? I admire the courage and bravery of Armstrong's competition who competed honestly, however few there may have been...not everyone cheated!
@gavgams amen. great comment!! at the end of the day, the guy rode a bicycle. i could care less about lance armstrong as a celebrity/quasi-celebrity. however, i do feel for all those suffering from cancer who looked to him as a hero/source of inspiration. my heart does go out to all of those dealing with cancer.
Look up the definition of cheat. it is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.". When the other athletes were also taking performance-enhancing drugs, he was actually compensating for a disadvantage by stepping up to their level. While we all know the rules, in the real world the only rule is what you can get away with. With that said and him being on the same level as other athletes, he still had more mental drive than the rest. The same applies to bodybuilding and many other sports. In my opinion, he is still above them if for anything by telling the truth and being honest about how the game is truly played.
I was in special olympics as a child, I too can walk on water provided the lake is frozen! We had known it all along (he had to be getting help by doping) as he was way too unreal in his strength and that is what made you look twice! We were fooling only ourselves. He stiil had to work very hard and it is to bad it was for a lie. They grill him and they should grill the others too! He still has people that want to see him do the right thing! I still have faith you can make a difference Lance!
it's really not about that "if someone else jumps off the cliff, you also have to". No. In case of cycling and other sports that requires great stamina, because a race last 4-5 hours a day and you want to compete ( because the other 300 rider might also use some performance enhancing), and I think we all know that that mighty Eddy Merckx, ( who we like to celebrate) also used dope, 'cause from a scientific view, one can not be able to be a sprinter and a climber, and we don't call him a cheater
dachshundgeorgia Did you notice that Tour officials didn't give Lance's 7 first place wins to the second or third place winners? That is because unlike Lance they FAILED their drug tests. It is estimated by the RIDERS during those years that 80% of them were doping. Lance didn't take anything away from anyone in those races. Also everyone involved made money off Lance Armstrong. The makers of the bikes he rode became a BILLION DOLLAR company. Nike made their usual fortune. The US Postal Service had their best years while sponsoring the Postie boys. Did Lance cheat...yes. Did Lance lie...yes. So did the majority of riders during that time period; they cheated and lied about it plus are still are doing so now. Look at the current situation with Britain's Chris Froome. Nothing has changed. But Tour officials were aware all along about the doping even accepting a payoff from Lance to conveniently lose a positive EPO test in 2000. They wanted to open and tap into the huge American market and they did pulling all those big American bucks into France via Lance Armstrong. Lance busted his ass for those wins. You or I could fill up our bodies with the same PEDs that he did and never win the Tour. With almost all of the Peloton doping, why did ONLY Lance win 7 Tours in a row? It wasn't just doping that made Lance Armstrong THE BEST; his incredible lung capacity, his diet, his training, his heart, and his desire were 94% of those wins. Doping only 6%. Plus all those doping only got 2 years suspension but Lance got a life time ban. France had their American market bucks but took pleasure in taking away those wins from Lance wanting to bring the titles back to Europeans feeling it was THEIR RACE, not America's. They love our money but don't love us. People need to grow up and look at the FACTS. I still believe Lance Armstrong was the best racer ever. Some of our best athletes are NOT great human beings. Whether Lance was a good person or not has nothing to do with his amazing athleticism and ability to ride. If we are to only let saints be athletes, our sports are going to be pretty damn boring as biking became after kicking out their most incredible rider. Let's not forget that the cancer charity that Lance Armstrong built from the ground up, LIVESTRONG, has raised over 500 MILLION DOLLARS and has helped over 2.5 MILLION people. The American Cancer Society only spends 59.2% of the donations they receive on its programs and services for cancer victims giving them only 1 star out of a possible 4 rating for actually using donations for cancer sufferers. Whereas LIVESTRONG uses 84.91% of donations for those with cancer and their families receiving a 3 out of 4 star possible rating. If you are going to give to a cancer charity that uses your money as you meant it to be spent clearly giving to LIVESTRONG is the better choice. None of us go through this life without making mistakes. Condemning one man for the entire systematic doping in bike racing is ludicrous IMO.
@Dee Marie "Lance didn't take anything away from anyone in those races." You are a total idiot. You just admitted that 80 percent of the cyclists in the TDF were dopers. Well, that leaves 20 percent that were robbed of a possible victory. Again, you are a total idiot, with no morals, most likely a narcissist just like Armstrong.
well for some1 that is clean of cancer i would t dare to ask what he did , he win the battle of life so for me is the greatest and how much did he had to fight to be where he is now , it seems that no one is asking him that , so if is there any one with cancer i hope to have the same outcome as Armstrong , so for me is the biggest no mather doped or not .....
He said:" I play at the level others did.".... so every other person around him did it too why then is everybody so surprise?..... yes he is a lier but who is not?
No, you're not fair when you accuse every sport. In many sports technique is much more decisive than physical strength or endurance, therefore doping is relatively futile. Most ball sports, for example. How many time have you heard of a soccer/football, basketball or tennis player doping? It's very rare.
come on, tell us one name of one single professional cyclist who's cleaner! Lance was doped just like the others. Only stronger! Go Lance you are the best ever!
this is ridiculous, there is not a single rider in the top 100 who is not doping. period! you can't ride 3500 miles in 21 days, in that kind of pace, sport is the modern day circus! Professionals do dope, in every sport! If you want only Armstrong to suffer, that's just hypocrisy! Nonetheless he is a warrior, a man who doesn't give up, one of the greatest rider of all time and a great sportsman!
Based on the presumption that he admits to using performance enhancing drugs (of any sort, for any amount of time) he still was able to do mentally and physically push himself to levels that 99.9% of us could do on the same drugs AND 100% of the other drug takers of his era (and possibly any era before or after his). I am very interested to see what unfolds over the coming months/years in relation to this matter.
Former team mates of armstrong like hamilton have stated that armstrong have doped and guess what he did. It's a fact not making it up bullshit. Why can't you accept that cycling is a dirty sport. Do you really think that armstrong is the ONLY cyclist that dope during his era? LMFAO
Why is it that most famous and successful people have so many friends and so many issues? Depression, low self esteem or delusions of granduer, etc. Lance should not have sold out to Oprah anyway.
can't argue with that, good point with the backbone. but professional leagues/sports, as I said earlier are like modern day gladiator fights/circus games, the are rigged, fixed, pre-decided, whether it's by the players who use the dope, or the officials who make the bet, or by their commisioner who gains billions by forcing star players to sign with a bigger market team. it is for entertainment!
This is about an interview why are many of you talking about oprah and how she looks? Not only does Lance have problems but many of you have problems with yourself if you go on judging such a successful woman
I don't think growth hormones are doping, probably not, considering everybody know his story. In basketball they're strong but anyone can be as strong as them, it's all about exercising the muscles, nothing abnormal. Finally, in tennis, 3 hour matches only happen in Grand Slam. Anyway, in tennis matches most of the time is not spent in action. Tennis is really not much tiresome. I know cause I play it. 1 hour playing soccer = 2 hours playing tennis.
Also bear in mind, he pushed his entire team to "meet the standard" HIS standards of doping "excellence" so if you know anything about cycling you would know its a TEAM sport. Lance did not win on his own, if he hadn't had the team he did, he would not have won f-all. And see how he threw his team mates under the bus? Yeah, what a great guy! A bully, a cheat, a liar, and a hero to so many! Pffff.
The whole thing is bogus becacse of the monopoly that organization represents allows them to arbitrarily judge with absolute prejudice! I still think he is a hero to the nation and he was in way too deep as there is imense pressure to stay in the game. They over amplify the issue in his case way more than the others causing as much or more damage than he did! Heroes have faults too.I think he should have to account for the cruel things he said about the lady as it was more harmful than doping!
Oh please from the time I heard the Manti' T thing I scolded Mike and Mike for stupid enough for ratings like all others to stop bringing that along like it was meaningful news. It is personal, but I have no respect for anyone throwing others in the way of a freight train just because they think they deserve a good story and view others as commodities. Sure the fact it was done and he at the time gave hope to people it sounded great, but I to be honest don't know what to believe here.
it long time in france we told he use drog ( like all others ) but lance make a special show in tv to make french bashing .....in france we have memory i m lookin in tv all old video where armstrong make french bashing and joke about accusation with americans ......
after 2 1/2 hours both were "pretty exhausted" and she was "pretty satisfied"
Right after the host says Oprah was chosen because she would "not go deep, not go hard"...
Oprah didn’t pressure him enough. The interview was on his terms, even though at the beginning she said no holds barred. He was too comfortable in that interview, she should have made him squirm.
I mean not really... Look up the definition of cheat. it is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.". When the other athletes were also taking performance-enhancing drugs, he was actually compensating for a disadvantage by stepping up to their level. While we all know the rules, in the real world the only rule is what you can get away with.
With that said and him being on the same level as other athletes, he still had more mental drive than the rest. The same applies to bodybuilding and many other sports. In my opinion, he is still above them if for anything by telling the truth and being honest about how the game is truly played.
" .. at the end of it , literally two and a half hours , we both were pretty exhausted .. and erm.. I was satisfied "
LOL
It probably wasn't their intention, but the whole thing was a feast if double entendres
The amazing thing is that Oprah doesn't appear to understand how much she allowed Armstrong to get away with not saying. He only weakly admitted taking drugs, but did not go into any incriminating detail. Nor did he implicate anyone else. The interview was shameful broadcast journalism, for failing to ask the most important questions that needed to be asked. What about the involvement of other higher up people that allowed him to get away with taking drugs (EPO, etc)? Who else knew (UCI, etc)
oprah was like 'HEY GURL!!!' Gayle was like' BITCH THIS MY SERIOUS SHIT BE REAL!'/.. lol
I agree Thander Easton's words, you are right. I am Armstrong's fan, go Lance! I wish him good health and many , many luck for his future.
so eloquent, dear american, this is why you are the greatest nation in the world
you are so right!
Am watching you from all the way in the bahamas oprah. Am a fan of yours
Ironic that Charlie Rose is "speechifying" on Lance considering the turn that Charlie's career has taken!
Oprah looks so beautiful!
I gather that Lance satisfied Oprah for 2 1/2 hours.
Is there anything you'd like to tell us Mr. Phelps
lol at that guy who asked "What did he intended to do?"
Lance Armstrong lies for money, and he tells the truth for money. Lance puts his mouth where the money is.
Just cause most people do it doesn't make it right. Many men beat their spouse. So therefore it's ok if you do? Breaking the rules is breaking the rules. All that break should be banned.
Dude everyone has been saying it. It is a fact that most people in armstrong's era have doped. It is not an assumption, it is factual. Why do you think people say it's impossible to complete unless you dope in that era? Doping is a culture in cycling as stated many times from armstrong, hamilton and other cyclists
Did he do what he did (in doping) to to maintain his status for those he was helping or did he do it to support his ego? If not for himself; then the road to hell is truely paved with good intentions. Some of this world's greatest successes spring from the greatest failures and how he handles this from here on will define who he truely is! I believe he has a huge oppertunity here to make an even greater difference! To become a true hero. Humble yourself Lance, Be very humble and learn from this!
They all missed the most important reason. He says at one point that he's coming forward but he knows it's 'too late'. What that may have meant is that for some lawsuits the statute of limitations had expired. Quite clever if true.
the bigest challenge will be to be alive after 65 years old ........IMpossible to live 75 years with what he do .....
Thank you.
Lance, thank you for your apology. It is fully accepted, and I admire your courage and bravery. I will always love you and support you! :)
I respect what you said...me too...
there's one in every crowd! Courage and bravery?? I admire the courage and bravery of Armstrong's competition who competed honestly, however few there may have been...not everyone cheated!
hahahahaha!!!!! the interview of the year....
When will the show be released?
Lance appeared to be more sorry about the 75 Million he lost.
@gavgams amen. great comment!! at the end of the day, the guy rode a bicycle. i could care less about lance armstrong as a celebrity/quasi-celebrity. however, i do feel for all those suffering from cancer who looked to him as a hero/source of inspiration. my heart does go out to all of those dealing with cancer.
Oh Charlie... Before me too.
Armstrong did it with Oprah to try to look good. He was looking for sympathy. He doesn't seem sorry even.
I so agree with you. He is a bully and does not apologize for it
Look up the definition of cheat. it is to "act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.". When the other athletes were also taking performance-enhancing drugs, he was actually compensating for a disadvantage by stepping up to their level. While we all know the rules, in the real world the only rule is what you can get away with.
With that said and him being on the same level as other athletes, he still had more mental drive than the rest. The same applies to bodybuilding and many other sports. In my opinion, he is still above them if for anything by telling the truth and being honest about how the game is truly played.
somebody upload the full goddamn interview
This is what happens when 8-year-olds go on the internet when their mom's out of the room.
Looks like the studio's hairdresser was doped too
Thank god at least you got an Ipad and internet.
Sure she has!
"You have to acknowledge I have no clothes"
"as i said, I'm satisfied"
...erm
dude you rock.
I was in special olympics as a child, I too can walk on water provided the lake is frozen! We had known it all along (he had to be getting help by doping) as he was way too unreal in his strength and that is what made you look twice! We were fooling only ourselves. He stiil had to work very hard and it is to bad it was for a lie. They grill him and they should grill the others too! He still has people that want to see him do the right thing! I still have faith you can make a difference Lance!
4:44 thats what she said
you are preaching the sad truth
Saying everyone doped is cynical but thinking cycling is a clean sport is naive.
Was he contrite? I can think of several "C" words he was and is.
Yep. A narcissistic, egotistical asshole. I hope he ends up homeless in Austin.
that is actually what i thought. lol
it's really not about that "if someone else jumps off the cliff, you also have to". No. In case of cycling and other sports that requires great stamina, because a race last 4-5 hours a day and you want to compete ( because the other 300 rider might also use some performance enhancing), and I think we all know that that mighty Eddy Merckx, ( who we like to celebrate) also used dope,
'cause from a scientific view, one can not be able to be a sprinter and a climber, and we don't call him a cheater
dachshundgeorgia Did you notice that Tour officials didn't give Lance's 7 first place wins to the second or third place winners? That is because unlike Lance they FAILED their drug tests. It is estimated by the RIDERS during those years that 80% of them were doping. Lance didn't take anything away from anyone in those races. Also everyone involved made money off Lance Armstrong. The makers of the bikes he rode became a BILLION DOLLAR company. Nike made their usual fortune. The US Postal Service had their best years while sponsoring the Postie boys.
Did Lance cheat...yes. Did Lance lie...yes. So did the majority of riders during that time period; they cheated and lied about it plus are still are doing so now. Look at the current situation with Britain's Chris Froome. Nothing has changed. But Tour officials were aware all along about the doping even accepting a payoff from Lance to conveniently lose a positive EPO test in 2000. They wanted to open and tap into the huge American market and they did pulling all those big American bucks into France via Lance Armstrong.
Lance busted his ass for those wins. You or I could fill up our bodies with the same PEDs that he did and never win the Tour. With almost all of the Peloton doping, why did ONLY Lance win 7 Tours in a row? It wasn't just doping that made Lance Armstrong THE BEST; his incredible lung capacity, his diet, his training, his heart, and his desire were 94% of those wins. Doping only 6%. Plus all those doping only got 2 years suspension but Lance got a life time ban. France had their American market bucks but took pleasure in taking away those wins from Lance wanting to bring the titles back to Europeans feeling it was THEIR RACE, not America's. They love our money but don't love us.
People need to grow up and look at the FACTS. I still believe Lance Armstrong was the best racer ever. Some of our best athletes are NOT great human beings. Whether Lance was a good person or not has nothing to do with his amazing athleticism and ability to ride. If we are to only let saints be athletes, our sports are going to be pretty damn boring as biking became after kicking out their most incredible rider.
Let's not forget that the cancer charity that Lance Armstrong built from the ground up, LIVESTRONG, has raised over 500 MILLION DOLLARS and has helped over 2.5 MILLION people. The American Cancer Society only spends 59.2% of the donations they receive on its programs and services for cancer victims giving them only 1 star out of a possible 4 rating for actually using donations for cancer sufferers. Whereas LIVESTRONG uses 84.91% of donations for those with cancer and their families receiving a 3 out of 4 star possible rating. If you are going to give to a cancer charity that uses your money as you meant it to be spent clearly giving to LIVESTRONG is the better choice.
None of us go through this life without making mistakes. Condemning one man for the entire systematic doping in bike racing is ludicrous IMO.
@Dee Marie "Lance didn't take anything away from anyone in those races." You are a total idiot. You just admitted that 80 percent of the cyclists in the TDF were dopers. Well, that leaves 20 percent that were robbed of a possible victory. Again, you are a total idiot, with no morals, most likely a narcissist just like Armstrong.
Oprah tests positive for not know what "contrite" means.
WTF is up with all the hatred? Damn man!
oprah is gorgeous here!!
I'm pretty sure Oprah understands the meaning of more words than the average US citizen. Contrite I'm sure is one of them.
I'm gonna call my cable company and see if I can BLOCK the O channel.
lol I thought my mind alone was dirty
Charlie Rose
Uh, remember lance came to her first...
Bill Burr got me here
well for some1 that is clean of cancer i would t dare to ask what he did , he win the battle of life so for me is the greatest and how much did he had to fight to be where he is now , it seems that no one is asking him that , so if is there any one with cancer i hope to have the same outcome as Armstrong , so for me is the biggest no mather doped or not .....
He said:" I play at the level others did.".... so every other person around him did it too why then is everybody so surprise?..... yes he is a lier but who is not?
He is the best and he did it better than the rest they all do it at their level its crazy they are hangin him out to dry they all cheat
No, you're not fair when you accuse every sport. In many sports technique is much more decisive than physical strength or endurance, therefore doping is relatively futile. Most ball sports, for example. How many time have you heard of a soccer/football, basketball or tennis player doping? It's very rare.
Not true. In the UK Michael Parkinson had Oprah on his show for an hour - an entire interview about interviews she had conducted.
i sure hope it was not like that marion jones interview as that was a joke
Sweet, sweet Lance. What happened to you?
come on, tell us one name of one single professional cyclist who's cleaner! Lance was doped just like the others. Only stronger! Go Lance you are the best ever!
this is ridiculous, there is not a single rider in the top 100 who is not doping. period!
you can't ride 3500 miles in 21 days, in that kind of pace, sport is the modern day circus!
Professionals do dope, in every sport!
If you want only Armstrong to suffer, that's just hypocrisy!
Nonetheless he is a warrior, a man who doesn't give up, one of the greatest rider of all time and a great sportsman!
ya so amazing he ruin alot of ppl lives (Y)
who's next in america
she was chosen bc "she would not go deep, and would not go hard"
That news reader wearing blue is so fakkkin hot!
Based on the presumption that he admits to using performance enhancing drugs (of any sort, for any amount of time) he still was able to do mentally and physically push himself to levels that 99.9% of us could do on the same drugs AND 100% of the other drug takers of his era (and possibly any era before or after his). I am very interested to see what unfolds over the coming months/years in relation to this matter.
Not everyone is into the sport of pro cycling, but everyone knows someone affected by cancer...
Lance Armstrong is a hero
I know that's why I used the parenthesis. but that doesn't dismiss that he doped. all in all hypocrisy at it's best!
Armstrong is on some new dope now: Smack.
between 4:25 and 5:15.....they could easily have been talking about having sex....
ahahahah
Former team mates of armstrong like hamilton have stated that armstrong have doped and guess what he did. It's a fact not making it up bullshit. Why can't you accept that cycling is a dirty sport. Do you really think that armstrong is the ONLY cyclist that dope during his era? LMFAO
Why is it that most famous and successful people have so many friends and so many issues? Depression, low self esteem or delusions of granduer, etc. Lance should not have sold out to Oprah anyway.
Oprah never said a word about him confessing and yet these clowns are all going on about how his admissions.
Phelps next!
oprah is uncomfortable with the chair lol
Would you say he was "Contriped?" I feel stupid for not knowing what that means... but seriously how many people do you know that use that word...
The word is contrite. You're right, it's not a common word but it is appropriate.
They sound like some haterz on Oprah! HOW did you get the interview?? 3 people same question
can't argue with that, good point with the backbone.
but professional leagues/sports, as I said earlier are like modern day gladiator fights/circus games, the are rigged, fixed, pre-decided, whether it's by the players who use the dope, or the officials who make the bet, or by their commisioner who gains billions by forcing star players to sign with a bigger market team. it is for entertainment!
She seems pissed
Michael Phelps, your turn
Oh...my...god
Ok, as you wish. cheers
By speaking with Oprah, I guess Lance recouped some of the cash that he lost from his Nike sponsorship and all of the others.
Pretty sure your new sport hero is dope user too but just not admitting it like Lance.
MARCO PANTANI = 1000000000000000000000 ARMSTRONG
This is about an interview why are many of you talking about oprah and how she looks? Not only does Lance have problems but many of you have problems with yourself if you go on judging such a successful woman
I don't think growth hormones are doping, probably not, considering everybody know his story. In basketball they're strong but anyone can be as strong as them, it's all about exercising the muscles, nothing abnormal. Finally, in tennis, 3 hour matches only happen in Grand Slam. Anyway, in tennis matches most of the time is not spent in action. Tennis is really not much tiresome. I know cause I play it. 1 hour playing soccer = 2 hours playing tennis.
Also bear in mind, he pushed his entire team to "meet the standard" HIS standards of doping "excellence" so if you know anything about cycling you would know its a TEAM sport. Lance did not win on his own, if he hadn't had the team he did, he would not have won f-all. And see how he threw his team mates under the bus? Yeah, what a great guy! A bully, a cheat, a liar, and a hero to so many! Pffff.
The whole thing is bogus becacse of the monopoly that organization represents allows them to arbitrarily judge with absolute prejudice! I still think he is a hero to the nation and he was in way too deep as there is imense pressure to stay in the game. They over amplify the issue in his case way more than the others causing as much or more damage than he did! Heroes have faults too.I think he should have to account for the cruel things he said about the lady as it was more harmful than doping!
hahahaha
if everybody used he was still the best. I don´t see the big deal
Crap interview with Armstrong. Completely let him off the hook.
Oh please from the time I heard the Manti' T thing I scolded Mike and Mike for stupid enough for ratings like all others to stop bringing that along like it was meaningful news. It is personal, but I have no respect for anyone throwing others in the way of a freight train just because they think they deserve a good story and view others as commodities. Sure the fact it was done and he at the time gave hope to people it sounded great, but I to be honest don't know what to believe here.
it long time in france we told he use drog ( like all others ) but lance make a special show in tv to make french bashing .....in france we have memory i m lookin in tv all old video where armstrong make french bashing and joke about accusation with americans ......
Are you implying that Oprah paid him for the interview?
Really? He's admitted it.
Oprah was like why dey use Dem drugs whens deys can juZ smokes some rocks to go faster ???
He should - for perjury at the very least.
hehe yeah, no doubt
4:00 ....(SHIT! WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN!?!?)