33 degree curves and 2.5 % grades .... that is very impressive. I wonder how the little steamer ever pulled their consist around those curves? Steel wheels on steel rails, the adhesion, the sanding they needed ... our ancestors were smarter than we give them credit for. Thanks for taking a snow day to do this video ... I can't get enough of your material.
The locomotive thats at the historical society is the very reason I love trains to this day. I climbed all over that thing when I was a child. Every time I was around it, it felt like it was sad. It spoke to me in a way. I could tell that engine wanted to be free and run rails again. I didn’t know much about it until I had already moved to Alabama and hadn’t seen it since I had moved. When I go up again I’d love to visit my old friend.
Awesome Scott! We do appreciate your sending that neat story in to us. We been doing some track work up there last couple weeks and am gonna have 5 videos coming out about that. The last one is moving the loco out front. Will be first time in 15 years it's been able to be out front, Harvest Festival is this weekend. Also made another vid on the loco if you haven't seen it, you will enjoy this one th-cam.com/video/ZdlnSLCUzP4/w-d-xo.html
Fascinating video- thank you so much for recording and posting it! I was going to ask if the Waynesburg and Washington was a narrow gauge railroad, but the slide with the crossing/dual gauge track answered that question. I can't imagine the engineering that would have gone into creating switches with a dual gauge. That's fascinating. Looking forward to the upcoming video about railroad superelevation. Thanks again for the great content!
Hey a guy can dream can't he! Nothing wrong with that, we are all dreaming #4 gets back under steam again some time. Really appreciate your watching the presentation today my friend.
I always enjoy your videos. They're Interesting and informative. Thanks again for sharing your encyclopedic knowledge with us. As a small child, I lived near Bridgeville, SW of Pittsburgh. Back then, that whole region was coal mines, steel mills, steam locomotives and railroads -- a very fascinating place for a youngster. And hills -- endless wooded hills. Your videos and commentaries bring back many memories.
CR, thank you, glad you enjoyed, you are like me, we both appreciate rr history. Forgot to mention, that when the WW was going strong, they would log over 100,000 miles a year running multiple trains and around the clock, it was a fairly prosperous line for awhile
Really loved this video Dave! Having grown up in the Waynesburg area for many years it's great to see an update on the W&W Railroad. Keep up the great videos you produce! Much appreciated!
Thank you StymieSLC for the very nice comment, so glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your visiting with us and watching the W&W history. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Your very welcome Steven. Thank you so very much for checking out the video. Got several other videos on the W&W on a playlist on the channel page if you would sometime care to check them out. This was a really cool little narrow gage RR. th-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT027XkAZCr5yodUru1pq_F0gn.html
Wow,thank you very much for the really nice comment. I really just do this for the fun of it, but seems like so many really enjoy them, anyway am glad you are enjoying the show, no charge for admission and you got front row seats lol 😊
Thanks Dave, for this "time capsule" video. Personally, I Love watching videos, slide shows (With Narration), etc... lots of the respect for when America was in it's "heyday"..... sure, times were tougher in some ways.... but compared to what's going on in the US and the world in general, nowadays and what our country has Devolved into.... I'd much rather have lived my life, back then. Just found your videos an hour ago.. and have "liked" and subscribed (7.24.2021).
Wow, how the heck did I miss this one? I think maybe it was before I subscribed. Awesome video, and thank you for the time and effort put into making it. That was a fantastic history lesson, and great job of posting the old photos. Thanks again Dave!
Dave the train around my tree is a mogal in G scale ,it also has the middle driver with no flange. had a great deal on a 2 8 2 mikado when the model train show was still open, had to pass on it though the min radius made an 8 foot circle. great video catch ya later.
Thanks Thomas, actually this is one of my favorite movies, and yet it seems it one of the least watched, but I love RR history and guess not a whole lot of others do.
There certainly is Alaina! This was one very unique RR. Thank you so much for taking the time to watch the video my dear lady. Methinks W&W #4 would make a good background for your laptop or cell phone since you got 22 on the pc.... LOL
Really pleased to hear you enjoyed William. This was a unique RR in it's day. Washington had both narrow and standard gage tracks and the PRR interchanged with the W&W there. Very grateful for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Nice video! I live in Dunkirk NY. at one time we had 3 locomotive manufactures here. The smallest one was the Dunkirk Geared Locomotive Works. Then we had Brooks locomotive works that later became a part of ALCO or American Locomotive. Up and tell a few years ago, you could still see part of the word " American " on one of the old buildings, that faced the yard. The building was recently raised to make way for a new cold storage facility. When you showed the builders specks, I looked it over to see if it was made here in Dunkirk. Sadly it did not say. Down at the Dunkirk Historical Society they have many of the builders photos of the locomotives that where made here. It would be neat to see if its builder photo was there.
Thanks Mike, and who knows, maybe in a former life? I have always said I used to work for PRR in a former life, so maybe it was for the W & W.... LOL Appreciate your watching the video my friend.
that curve is like a roller coaster! 2.5% grade! wow going up would not be bad, down that is another story! that was amazing how they had both gauges with in the tracks in town. the size difference between the two engines is huge! I never realized that there was such a size difference between std. gauge and narrow. great presentation , is that the steam engine at the historically society that you did track work on in some videos? that is a neat piece of history! thank you for sharing have a great night! barry
Thanks Barry for taking the time to watch this presentation. it was a very unique RR and is in my county, 10 minutes from the house. Yes that is the steam loco at the society. If you haven't seen this one, it's a pretty cool video of loco light up for their festival there. th-cam.com/video/985MONYpcuQ/w-d-xo.html
Will try, but including the horn sounds will be a tough one, they are all Nathan 3 chime, so you know the sound now of all of them, but would be a really cool vid if I could accomplish all that!
Only gonna get to see it on maps now, almost nothing left but a few of the stations. I have a book with charts but doubt if you could even find a track chart on the internet, although I never looked. Thanks for watching sir
Very nice overview on the W&W. On the topic of sharp curves, I heard the Uintah Railway of Colorado had a 66 degree curve on an 8% grade. Have you ridden the East Broad Top?
I have an HO scale 4-6-4 steam locomotive that I can't identify and made from metal and heavy. It has a tender with two 3 axle trucks. The locomotive drive wheels in the center have no flange. That may be to prevent problems on tight curved track
Would take a whole lot of money to get 4 back under steam, and money is in short supply. They were talking about trying to get some grant money, but nothing yet. Thanks for taking in the video today crystalrock 18
@@ccrx6700 this is true, steam train restoration is no easy feet by any means. The good thing is that #4 is with a group of folks that are going to care for her and that’s the important part. Again thank you for the awesome videos on such a neat railroad.
That's for posting this. I like to see narrow gauge railroads. I also know that a 2.5% grade rises 30 inches every 100 feet. Do you mean Canton, Ohio? I've lived here in Canton since 1971 after my parents moved here from Cleveland.
Back in the day they used a steam powered crane called a big hook. it was mounted on a flat car. Railroading back then was very hard work compared to nowadays. Appreciate your watching this video Shirley.
Wasn’t this line standard gauged in 1944? Also, does Norfolk Southern still own the right of way? My class room took a field trip to a poultry farm near Amity and I asked about the rusty train tracks and the lady said, oh honey, that’s the old W&W, that would have been around 1978.
In 1875 when the original rail was laid it was 30 pound rail, in189 and 91 it was relaid as 50 & 60 pound at all narrow gauge. In 1943 & 44 was re gauged to standard. NS uses the right of way from Waynesburg to Sycamore as part of it's Manor branch going to Baily Mine. It is my understanding that Conrail still owns the right of way and just allows NS track on part of it or NS leases the ROW from Conrail, not sure of the exact details of that. Conrail still exists as a rail service provider but not a common carrier. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
33 degree curves and 2.5 % grades .... that is very impressive. I wonder how the little steamer ever pulled their consist around those curves? Steel wheels on steel rails, the adhesion, the sanding they needed ... our ancestors were smarter than we give them credit for. Thanks for taking a snow day to do this video ... I can't get enough of your material.
Bill, thank you for the nice comment, do appreciate your interest. I love this old railroad and railroadin history
The locomotive thats at the historical society is the very reason I love trains to this day. I climbed all over that thing when I was a child. Every time I was around it, it felt like it was sad. It spoke to me in a way. I could tell that engine wanted to be free and run rails again. I didn’t know much about it until I had already moved to Alabama and hadn’t seen it since I had moved. When I go up again I’d love to visit my old friend.
Awesome Scott! We do appreciate your sending that neat story in
to us. We been doing some track work up there last couple weeks and
am gonna have 5 videos coming out about that. The last one is moving the loco out front. Will be first time in 15 years it's been able
to be out front, Harvest Festival is this weekend.
Also made another vid on the loco if you haven't seen it, you will
enjoy this one
th-cam.com/video/ZdlnSLCUzP4/w-d-xo.html
How Fun would it have been to see these Trains back in the Day. History is Very Interesting. Thx!👍
Thank you Ken, it really would have been great to ride back then. I was born in 1954 and remember #4 being at the fairgrounds when I was a young lad
Fascinating video- thank you so much for recording and posting it! I was going to ask if the Waynesburg and Washington was a narrow gauge railroad, but the slide with the crossing/dual gauge track answered that question. I can't imagine the engineering that would have gone into creating switches with a dual gauge. That's fascinating.
Looking forward to the upcoming video about railroad superelevation. Thanks again for the great content!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the history lesson 😊
In my dream world the W&W would be rebuilt like the Virginia & Truckee was! Thanks again for this fascinating history. 😊😊👍
Hey a guy can dream can't he! Nothing wrong with that, we are all
dreaming #4 gets back under steam again some time. Really
appreciate your watching the presentation today my friend.
I always enjoy your videos. They're Interesting and informative. Thanks again for sharing your encyclopedic knowledge with us.
As a small child, I lived near Bridgeville, SW of Pittsburgh. Back then, that whole region was coal mines, steel mills, steam locomotives and railroads -- a very fascinating place for a youngster. And hills -- endless wooded hills. Your videos and commentaries bring back many memories.
Michael, thank you, glad you enjoy. This is a pretty good area of the country to live in
Great history lesson. Its amazing the difference in engine sizes. Thanks Dave
Your welcome Lewis, really glad to hear you enjoyed this video,
lot of great RR history in this little railroad, glad I could share it.
Love your videos. I'll be waiting for your next one. Thanks for sharing.
Valerie, thank you very much for the nice comment, much appreciated
Wow, I really enjoyed the history lesson. Keep up the great work Dave.
CR, thank you, glad you enjoyed, you are like me, we both appreciate rr history. Forgot to mention, that when the WW was going strong, they would log over 100,000 miles a year running multiple trains and around the clock, it was a fairly prosperous line for awhile
Really loved this video Dave! Having grown up in the Waynesburg area for many years it's great to see an update on the W&W Railroad. Keep up the great videos you produce! Much appreciated!
Thank you StymieSLC for the very nice comment, so glad you enjoyed. We do appreciate your visiting with us and watching the W&W history. May you have a most blessed day my friend.
Hello, thank you very much for posting, I simple love the history of our local towns, this is very interesting and fun ..
Your very welcome Steven. Thank you so very much for checking
out the video. Got several other videos on the W&W on a playlist
on the channel page if you would sometime care to check them
out. This was a really cool little narrow gage RR.
th-cam.com/play/PLTyDYTDnT027XkAZCr5yodUru1pq_F0gn.html
Another great video! I am working my way through all of them from the start. Keep them coming!
Wow,thank you very much for the really nice comment. I really just do this for the fun of it, but seems like so many really enjoy them, anyway am glad you are enjoying the show, no charge for admission and you got front row seats lol 😊
Awesome video
Thank you, really appreciate your comment, this is a really unique railroad, been wantin share
this for a long time with you guys
Thanks Dave, for this "time capsule" video. Personally, I Love watching videos, slide shows (With Narration), etc... lots of the respect for when America was in it's "heyday"..... sure, times were tougher in some ways.... but compared to what's going on in the US and the world in general, nowadays and what our country has Devolved into.... I'd much rather have lived my life, back then. Just found your videos an hour ago.. and have "liked" and subscribed (7.24.2021).
Your welcome and great to hear you enjoyed watching, we do appreciate your writing in and welcome to our group here
Wow, how the heck did I miss this one? I think maybe it was before I subscribed. Awesome video, and thank you for the time and effort put into making it. That was a fantastic history lesson, and great job of posting the old photos. Thanks again Dave!
Your welcome! Gonna do some more in future on WW RR , that was one really unique RR, great history. That's railroadin! Appreciate your watching sir 😊
Dave the train around my tree is a mogal in G scale ,it also has the middle driver with no flange. had a great deal on a 2 8 2 mikado when the model train show was still open, had to pass on it though the min radius made an 8 foot circle. great video catch ya later.
Great history lesson.
Brian, thank you, glad you enjoyed, got a lot of great history here. That's real railroadin! Ha Ha Hah Love it
Thank you keep it coming really enjoy your posts
Thank you Jeff I appreciate your nice comments
Love these.
Thanks Thomas, actually this is one of my favorite movies, and
yet it seems it one of the least watched, but I love RR history and
guess not a whole lot of others do.
A lot of history there.
There certainly is Alaina! This was one very unique RR. Thank you
so much for taking the time to watch the video my dear lady. Methinks
W&W #4 would make a good background for your laptop or cell phone since you got 22 on the pc.... LOL
I enjoyed your pics
The Washington station is still being used by a concrete co
Thanks 4 sharing
Really pleased to hear you enjoyed William. This was a unique
RR in it's day. Washington had both narrow and standard gage
tracks and the PRR interchanged with the W&W there. Very grateful
for your taking the time to visit with us and check out the video my friend.
Very informative! Love these pictures.
Thank you, glad you enjoyed the show, we got some really awesome railroad
history here in Greene County, Pa
👍👍Great video Dave.
Thank you very much Russ, great to hear you liked it 😊
Nice video! I live in Dunkirk NY. at one time we had 3 locomotive manufactures here. The smallest one was the Dunkirk Geared Locomotive Works. Then we had Brooks locomotive works that later became a part of ALCO or American Locomotive. Up and tell a few years ago, you could still see part of the word " American " on one of the old buildings, that faced the yard. The building was recently raised to make way for a new cold storage facility. When you showed the builders specks, I looked it over to see if it was made here in Dunkirk. Sadly it did not say. Down at the Dunkirk Historical Society they have many of the builders photos of the locomotives that where made here. It would be neat to see if its builder photo was there.
Awesome comment, thank you, I have never heard of Dunkirk Geared Works, gonna look
that up, appreciate the info
Looks a litte like The Hooterville cannonball......petticoat junction
LOL I think your right! All we need now is to have Uncle Joe
sleeping in his chair at the inn, thanks for watching Bobby
Great video Dave and I swear you are in the track gang picture lol
Thanks Mike, and who knows, maybe in a former life? I have always
said I used to work for PRR in a former life, so maybe it was for
the W & W.... LOL Appreciate your watching the video my friend.
that curve is like a roller coaster! 2.5% grade! wow going up would not be bad,
down that is another story! that was amazing how they had both gauges with
in the tracks in town. the size difference between the two engines is huge!
I never realized that there was such a size difference between std. gauge
and narrow. great presentation , is that the steam engine at the historically
society that you did track work on in some videos? that is a neat piece of
history! thank you for sharing have a great night! barry
Thanks Barry for taking the time to watch this presentation.
it was a very unique RR and is in my county, 10 minutes from
the house. Yes that is the steam loco at the society. If you
haven't seen this one, it's a pretty cool video of loco light up for
their festival there.
th-cam.com/video/985MONYpcuQ/w-d-xo.html
Watched a 3rd time. So neat.
Thank you Ray, love railroad history!
Can you do a video showcasing all the Cumberland Mine' s locomotives and their horns?
Will try, but including the horn sounds will be a tough one, they are all Nathan 3 chime,
so you know the sound now of all of them, but would be a really cool vid if I could
accomplish all that!
Very cool! (I have the book, "Three Feet on the Panhandle").
Awesome Joseph! Are you from around Waynesburg area? W&W not a real well known RR outside these parts
It would be nice to see a full route of the w&w rr as I was born in Washington pa
Only gonna get to see it on maps now, almost nothing left but
a few of the stations. I have a book with charts but doubt if you
could even find a track chart on the internet, although I never looked.
Thanks for watching sir
We all get a day off every now and then.
Very nice overview on the W&W. On the topic of sharp curves, I heard the Uintah Railway of Colorado had a 66 degree curve on an 8% grade. Have you ridden the East Broad Top?
Joe, thank you. I have heatd of EBT, but know nothing bout it. had not heard bout that curve, will look it up, Thank you!
I have an HO scale 4-6-4 steam locomotive that I can't identify and made from metal and heavy. It has a tender with two 3 axle trucks. The locomotive drive wheels in the center have no flange. That may be to prevent problems on tight curved track
Yes sir, blind drivers were found on many steam locos back in the day for that purpose you spoke of, glad you enjoyed the video
Just a question of curiosity, but would #4 ever get to stretch it legs on the EBTRR since that track is currently being restored?
Would take a whole lot of money to get 4 back under steam,
and money is in short supply. They were talking about trying to
get some grant money, but nothing yet. Thanks for taking in
the video today crystalrock 18
@@ccrx6700 this is true, steam train restoration is no easy feet by any means. The good thing is that #4 is with a group of folks that are going to care for her and that’s the important part. Again thank you for the awesome videos on such a neat railroad.
@@crystalrock18 😊👍
That's for posting this. I like to see narrow gauge railroads. I also know that a 2.5% grade rises 30 inches every 100 feet. Do you mean Canton, Ohio? I've lived here in Canton since 1971 after my parents moved here from Cleveland.
Thank you, yes PRR had shops in East Canton Ohio, but remember this was back in 1950's. Was 58 when #4 came back home from there
After watching the modern day methods to re-rail cars and engines, I am curious how the old timers handled such situations.
Back in the day they used a steam powered crane called a big hook.
it was mounted on a flat car. Railroading back then was very hard
work compared to nowadays. Appreciate your watching this video
Shirley.
Wasn’t this line standard gauged in 1944? Also, does Norfolk Southern still own the right of way? My class room took a field trip to a poultry farm near Amity and I asked about the rusty train tracks and the lady said, oh honey, that’s the old W&W, that would have been around 1978.
In 1875 when the original rail was laid it was 30 pound rail, in189 and 91 it was relaid as 50 & 60 pound at all narrow gauge. In 1943 & 44 was re gauged to standard. NS uses the right of way from Waynesburg to Sycamore as part of it's Manor branch going to
Baily Mine.
It is my understanding that Conrail still owns the right of way and
just allows NS track on part of it or NS leases the ROW from Conrail,
not sure of the exact details of that. Conrail still exists as a rail
service provider but not a common carrier. Hope that helps and
thanks for watching
So do rail fans make good rail employees?
you gonna be a good rail employee ya gotta be a railfan...lol