Hey Sir, always love your videos. Suggestion: instead of using 2 filter papers in your funnel to keep from tearing the first paper, try using a piece of nylon window screen cut to fit the funnel on top of the first filter paper that way you only use one and you still maintain a separation from your stirring stick and paper that still let's all liquid pass through.
Another great installment of the anode refining series! I'd imagine since you're going to collect a healthy amount of anode slime from your 2 silver cells that becoming more informed and comfortable refining the PGM's would be something you'd want to start looking into more then you have already. Looks like just from this one refining series you're going to have a health amouont of PGMs. What a fun hobby to have!
Man Oh man what a series! That looks like the most PGMs yet you've captured and cant wait to watch the refining of those! Amazing... Time to build that centrifuge!
The yellowish green was Nickel (II) Chloride in solution. It's likely why some of your gold washes, after several water rinses, make yellow when you first add some HCl (but stanus test doesn't show gold) . The rose-colored sediment is Nickel that combined with DMG. Nickel is cool in its own right, and can be useful, I suspect. Since you can isolate it in a powder form, you may as well stockpile it, or turn it into beautiful green crystals as Nickel Sulfate.
The green solution is more like a highly colored Pd salt. The pink salts are likely highly colored Rh salts. The aqua regia step selects out just about everything but Au and the PGM, so things like Ni, Sn and Fe don’t make it past the first refining steps. Cu is the likely contaminant making it the farthest in these cleanups.
@@williamfoote2888 Researching for the post I made brought up that Nickel will dissolve in Nitric acid, and can then transfer into a chloride or sulfate salt, but will change colors if Ammonia is used to neutralize the pH, and will drop out of solution as Ni(DMG)2, being a rose-colored powder. When it is dehydrated, it becomes a yellow powder. It can be yellow, green, blue, and pink in solution depending on its mood. He typically dissolves any generic thing first in Nitric acid (which is a pretty good start, as long as you have a plan for dealing with potential tin), filters off solids, and then drops out the silver with HCl. He then filters the silver solids away and puts them with his "cement silver" horde. Then, he makes aqua regia to dissolve the gold, and puts in a little sulfuric acid to remove lead. At this point, there is yellow from the AuCl, blue from the CuCl2, and yellow-green from the nickel nitrate/chloride/sulfate. It's still hidden at this point, and Nickel is more reactive than any of these other metals discussed, so it will generally take priority in the salts over any of the desirable metals. Iron is another candidate, is very colorful, would make yellow when the HCl washes are performed (and are why those washes are performed). The cleaning steps that Sreetrips does are well above the quality level that most other refiner-tubers perform, but the result is that when he does these projects where he refines the wastes, he's accumulated those materials in quantities great enough to discover, while others (not naming names) may have videos where they are simply dumping those horrific pollutants on their lawn.
Pretty much every step involves Reducing the pH by adding acid, or Increasing temperature. It'll sound obvious, but you can Reduce temperature by putting a beaker in the fridge, or Increase pH by adding a base, like NaOH. Given the massively Acidic nature of HCl + HNO3, there would be a lot of heat generated by doing that. Just throwing in a couple of ideas for the "unknown" stuff.
Just got the notification been waiting for the next batch of processes to enjoy and total u should always process your waste that's what makes it so Interesting to watch how much got away during the refining
@@BigFrankieC reminds me of a Tommy Chong joke; I knew a girl with a tattoo of a clam on her thigh, and when you put your ear to it, you could smell the ocean.
I had some questions about the selectivity of DMG, so I did some online research. I want to caution viewers who are, like me, wannabe precious metal purifiers to take a look at the health and safety issues surrounding dimethylglyoxime. Of course, you already need to be more careful than the average bear to deal with platinum group metals, but DMG isn't exactly a weak sister either. I would have provided a link but I think posts with links get canceled. Great video Senior Chief!
WHAT IF ?... (Silver+PGM) solids --> Nitric boil --> separation solution from solids (settling, decanting, filtration of liquid, then washing and vacuum drying solids on the same filter) mixed solids may be set aside for later processing (very likely less-than 0.5% silver in the mixture) (Silver+PGM) solution --> Diluted chlorination --> separation PGM solution from silver chloride (same way as for "nitric boil" solution) result: Silver chloride 990 to 999 purity, PGM solution (with silver less than 0.01%), PGM (may be with some gold) solids (also with decreased silver contamination)
I love what you do and I can't wait to watch your videos. I love your honesty when you know something and say I know. you do not know. You say it frankly, I salute you, sir
Could you dry it then possibly melt the reddish powder or mud maybe make into a bar send it off to see what metals are contained and do you think it would be better or make it inert this is so fascinating thank you SREETIPS your the best
if i recall correctly , last year you sent a bead out to be analyzed that originally started as rose colored and the bead came back indicating rhodium was present.. i think you should do that again.. at that point it would be certified and valuable just like postage stamps from the 19th century... Cheers
35:55 - Shades of "Will it blend?" :) Honest content is the best, I've learned more when you get stumped than when you have a smooth as glass refining, so Thank you for putting this out in a non-professionalized, "I know every damned thing about this subject"-way. It gives me shades of Julius Sumner Miller: why is it so?
Did you ever get the feeling that the title of this video should have been "Don't know what that is..." Seriously though, great video and your knowledge and process is far superior to many of the other refining channels I've seen here on YT & so entertaining too. Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see how you get on.
It’s funny but I watched a video recently from another popular channel and he used almost verbatim some of the same things Mr Sreetips said and it felt a little like he has seen these videos and was using the same method on gold.
So basicly, what we see is the left over of your process. You refine gold from impure gold (karats gold + silver + copper + trace of PMG). It gives silver cement through excess nitric disolving extra sterling + copper piece (silver + trace of gold/copper/PMG). You make silver shots, your refine the silver through the cell, but at the end of the day, you have a mix of some amount of gold, silver, copper and PMG (the mud that stays the silver cell filter). I'm trying to figure out what you want to do here... Not sure. Pull the PMG out? recover as much gold and silver? It's not a critic. I just have a hard time figuring out what's the goal line here.
I think you have to look at this from the perspective that it is his hobby, because it absolutely does not make economic sense. Other than possibly some ad revenue from the videos. If it was me, I'd probably just try to get as much of the gold and silver out of the filter mud as I could, precipitate out whatever else is in there, melt it down, and send it to whatever that company he used in an earlier video to identify the elemental composition of a button, and see if the would want to buy it.
@@mayonaden Another one puting words in his mouth... It's a YT disease lately. I haven't asked if this makes economic sense nor what YOU would do... I'm asking what are HIS objective.
The goal is to recover as much of the metals as practical, learn new things as I go (I’m making this up as I go), and provide new content for my TH-cam channel.
@sreetips i'd say you're definitely meeting all of those goals swimmingly besides, what else are you going to do? it's better than being cooped up inside all day doing nothing
the cuper nitrate that you cave can be used to cupper elecro plaiting stuff (useful to build circuit boards), if there are people interested to buy that solution that for you is trash :) (just an ideea)
@@DavidDavis-fishing You are truly a good friend Davids 🔥God bless you my dear friend. And god bless the USA... I pray from my heart that the people in your land will get the President that God perifere. Always nice to talk whit you David...Take care 🔥 Arne
You can use baking soda to precept palladuim it will turn yellow from the green liquid if you add hydro it will go to red but if you want to seperate the pall and plat you use baking soda it will sponge yellow filter out the pall sponge and the red liquid is platinuim thats how you seperate it i never use dmg i go cheap and easy way
If you have gold in with pt and pd and silver you keep it a lil acidic with hydo and use zinc to get the gold out then filter gold then you use baking soda to seperate the pd and pall then filter pall sponge out and your left with pt and silver then you use copper to cement silver out then your left with pt red black solution then you use caustic soda to precept pt then stick a piece of iron to turn pt to metal pt and pall you roast with filter then you melt all seperated metals hope i helped you out screetips good ol buddy thats the easiest and cheapest way to do it
@Ancientastronaut411 I am no expert, but rather a casual student in this hobby. So I am not trying to critique, but to learn. In your step 1 of your process you suggested dropping only gold with zinc. Wouldn’t this drop everything less reactive including the pt, pd, au, ag?
@@john30039 no actually it dont i experimented on it or you can use smb i forgot to add that on there now alluminuim will drop everthing in the book bit smb would be the best bet
Love your content but I have a request. Could you go through the process of dissolving gold with sodium thiosulfate, ammonia, and copper sulfate? There after the process of cementing the gold from solution.
I think the red powder will contain PT I would hit it with AR after incineration and with the DMG PT and RD I would use AR then drop Pt with ammonium chloride and drop the PD with sodium formate or formic acid but you have to lower the PH
Wouldn't it be simple enough just to smelt all the anode slimes with some refined gold to collect every atom of metals and then just run it through another refining batch? If there's some gold it goes right through to the refining and if there's silver you get it back as cement again
I'll have to look into where to get the Alconox. Do you make your own distilled water or do you buy it? I'm guessing that you have a distiller. Great work. Metals sure are fascinating. @@sreetips
i jusy had a thought seeing that you never throw a way your fitter papers to process at a later date and rinse and repeat every time your papers get to much you must be getting quite a build up of rhodium on them fitters by now
@@sreetips have you been able to find anything on how to process the rhodium yet or check out the rhodium refining videos that i have sent you in the past
Yes, but it’s still an enigma to me. I’m late in life, late in my refining career. Exploring new things just ain’t as fun as it used to be. Someone once said that if you turn your hobby into your work, then it becomes just that, work.
Suggestion from a fellow TH-cam content creator, rather than filling the comments with links to the other parts, setup a playlist on your channel with the various parts in one place. This gives you additional description fields for more search engine optimization (SEO) text and your videos will be found by the google and TH-cam crawlers for your search engines and pushed to more viewers. You may also consider having additional playlists covering your videos that are separated out into silver cell operation, gold refining, silver shot, palladium, PGM, and other various categories so you will tailor what videos will be pushed to people searching for content like yours.
Danke fur denn tips ich lene immer wieder von ihnen was intresantes und ich habe eine frage uns wahr mit dem roza schlam ,Ist ein iridium oder rodium ? nemlich ich habe von denn auch etva 489 gram ging aber nicht mahl mit konigswasse auch nichts mit andren seure 🤷haben sie wiesen uber rodium oder eine Video von gegenheit nemlich ich habe gesucht nichts gesehen 😊❤
Is it that platinosis is such a great fear, or is it that the PGM separation & refining is complicated enough not to be worth it at the scales you're working on?
I was thinking about the HNO3 boils and thought about Newton's 2nd Law...and it occured to me to ask. Learned more watching you, Nurdrage n Nile Red than any high school chemistry class. Love your channel, dude. I look forward to every series and it was lovely to see your wife pour an ingot.@@sreetips
I think you are forgetting something you did when you did you first did Platinum refining experiments. Gold likes to percipitate from dilute solutions and PGMs from higher concentrated solutions. I think you need to estimate how great your yield is and adjust the amount of water by evarporation from the solution you will percipitate PGM's from.
Might be a stupid question however my research isn't yielding me many results. The Purpose of this would be to extract what you already have, being the silver nitrate, into fine silver form. but. how could this system be used to yield silver in an economic way... for example to buy silver nitrate, would cost more than the silver is worth, (why would a company sell something that has more value in its contents than what they offer) i guess my question is, is there a way to use this process to yield more silver than the monetary value you put into the cell? i know you've spoken of making your own silver nitrate, however does that change any of the monetary calculations? Thank you to anyone with any insight.
You want to know how to acquire silver for less than it’s worth. Here’s how we do it: I’m up at 5am, going to an estate sale that’s scheduled to begin at 8:30am so I can be first in line. Why? Because they have a sterling silver flatware set. I know the person that does the sale. He owns a company and that’s all they do, sell dead people’s stuff for the heirs. They use the grossly undervalued “spot price” of silver to determine their asking price, plus, he knocks off ten percent! But in order to get it, I must first in line when they open the doors at 8:30. Personally, I don’t like going to these sales, but my wife loves it. So I get up early and go with her, mostly as security and support. Silver is very cheap. Remember that price and value are two totally different things. Everybody knows the price, but few understand the value. You can’t go wrong buying silver. Because it’s not an investment. Silver is money. Paper dollars are a money substitute. Holding your savings in paper, that’s declining in value faster than a snowball melting in July, is a bad idea. Holding your savings in silver, that’s rising, is a much better idea. Especially right now, when silver is completely out of favor.
@5:30 Perhaps if you would add a flat plastic grid (like a sieve) on top of the filters, it would prevent the possible damaging of the filters when stirring with the glass rod or by the remaining copper wires.
@@ryanhenderson4395 like sir said, XRFs are best used with melted metal in its compressed form where all the atoms are bind tightly together. Salts, ores, loose sediments are no good for an XRF analyzer. The instrument is always going to give a negative feedback for the same because its purpose does not fit the use here.
I looked into it. They cost as much as a car. Rent for $1500 per week, or $4500 per month. Includes a curtesy visit by local authorities to ensure it’s being used properly. I’m just a hobby refiner, that’s much too much for my small operation.
@@sreetips Too expensive. Maybe you could do a TH-cam collaboration video with Cody from Cody’s Lab…he has one. Or even a collaboration with Jason from MBMLLC….combine your techniques. Again, thank you for all the hard work and great content!
is there a way to purchase Gold directly from you? Actually, I have some questions in regards to purchasing gold, and not in small amounts. Where is the best place to purchase gold in 50, or 100 oz bars. please feel free to contact me at your convenience.
ARAgold.com in Dallas. Set up an account. Or Elemetal Direct (note no “N” in Elemetal). You must have an account for both. They sell gold, with a premium. With gold so grossly undervalued, you’re not going to find many gold holders wanting to sell you their gold, at any price. Those who do sell gold, make their profit from the premium that they charge. I don’t think they even stock the gold. As soon as they receive your order, they have it drop shipped and keep the premium. I could be wrong, but I think that’s how gold sellers do it. We buy at yard sales, estate sales, flea markets, consignment stores, etc… we pay way under spot price (remember that price and value are two totally different things). People are clueless about gold. They believe, incorrectly, that paper dollars are more valuable than gold. This misconception enables us to find gold at ridiculously reduced prices. It’s a gold-buyers paradise out there. But people are starting to wake up. It’s getting more difficult to find. People are finally starting to realize that their valuations are based on a mountain of debt. And they don’t want to get stuck with stacks of worthless paper.
Q: If you can use the stannous chloride to precipitate the palladium as a tester wont that work for the main solution? surely its a matter of just dropping it out of the solution and filtering the precipitate like normal
It seems like you keep any mystery-meat that comes out of your stock-pot and filter refining videos, and it ends up back in your stock pot again, or in your paper storage. Silver (and white gold) are very often rhodium plated, and you've gone through such a large volume of gold and silver by now that you must have accumulated a non-trivial amount of rhodium. Is the red gunk rhodium? Or any of the other mystery-meat left over from your other refinings? I don't know, but you've got rhodium somewhere. You probably have enough material accumulated by now that it's time to go find it.
@@sreetips Extractions&Ire *just* posted a video on Rhodium chemistry that might help you out. He gets that same brick-red color you're seeing, and he linked a paper that should help with the chemistry. He also goes through the process with some improvisation and mistakes along the way, which should be helpful, and his videos are very entertaining.
Hey Sir, always love your videos. Suggestion: instead of using 2 filter papers in your funnel to keep from tearing the first paper, try using a piece of nylon window screen cut to fit the funnel on top of the first filter paper that way you only use one and you still maintain a separation from your stirring stick and paper that still let's all liquid pass through.
Great shot with that palladium precipitation!! Absolutely beautiful! You’ve learned great camera work along with everything else.
To separate the silver from the palladium etc, add HCl until pH is 2-3. Filter and wash silver chloride. Add ammonia to get silver.
I'll say it again. You are the top of your game and no one person should be able to provide this much data that is so relevant.
Good job.
I'd say excellent job! And thank you sir for the education.!
Another great installment of the anode refining series! I'd imagine since you're going to collect a healthy amount of anode slime from your 2 silver cells that becoming more informed and comfortable refining the PGM's would be something you'd want to start looking into more then you have already. Looks like just from this one refining series you're going to have a health amouont of PGMs. What a fun hobby to have!
Man Oh man what a series! That looks like the most PGMs yet you've captured and cant wait to watch the refining of those! Amazing... Time to build that centrifuge!
I'm absolutely loving this series. I can respect the Hollywood-style ending, the perfect example of "cliffhanger" ;)
30:18 What a cool time lapse shot. You don't get to see something like that everyday.
The yellowish green was Nickel (II) Chloride in solution. It's likely why some of your gold washes, after several water rinses, make yellow when you first add some HCl (but stanus test doesn't show gold) . The rose-colored sediment is Nickel that combined with DMG. Nickel is cool in its own right, and can be useful, I suspect. Since you can isolate it in a powder form, you may as well stockpile it, or turn it into beautiful green crystals as Nickel Sulfate.
The green solution is more like a highly colored Pd salt. The pink salts are likely highly colored Rh salts.
The aqua regia step selects out just about everything but Au and the PGM, so things like Ni, Sn and Fe don’t make it past the first refining steps.
Cu is the likely contaminant making it the farthest in these cleanups.
@@williamfoote2888 Researching for the post I made brought up that Nickel will dissolve in Nitric acid, and can then transfer into a chloride or sulfate salt, but will change colors if Ammonia is used to neutralize the pH, and will drop out of solution as Ni(DMG)2, being a rose-colored powder. When it is dehydrated, it becomes a yellow powder. It can be yellow, green, blue, and pink in solution depending on its mood.
He typically dissolves any generic thing first in Nitric acid (which is a pretty good start, as long as you have a plan for dealing with potential tin), filters off solids, and then drops out the silver with HCl. He then filters the silver solids away and puts them with his "cement silver" horde. Then, he makes aqua regia to dissolve the gold, and puts in a little sulfuric acid to remove lead. At this point, there is yellow from the AuCl, blue from the CuCl2, and yellow-green from the nickel nitrate/chloride/sulfate. It's still hidden at this point, and Nickel is more reactive than any of these other metals discussed, so it will generally take priority in the salts over any of the desirable metals. Iron is another candidate, is very colorful, would make yellow when the HCl washes are performed (and are why those washes are performed).
The cleaning steps that Sreetrips does are well above the quality level that most other refiner-tubers perform, but the result is that when he does these projects where he refines the wastes, he's accumulated those materials in quantities great enough to discover, while others (not naming names) may have videos where they are simply dumping those horrific pollutants on their lawn.
I could be not remembering details from previous videos, but I think the rose precipitate appeared before the DMG was added, so it wouldn't be nickel.
Pretty much every step involves Reducing the pH by adding acid, or Increasing temperature.
It'll sound obvious, but you can Reduce temperature by putting a beaker in the fridge, or Increase pH by adding a base, like NaOH.
Given the massively Acidic nature of HCl + HNO3, there would be a lot of heat generated by doing that.
Just throwing in a couple of ideas for the "unknown" stuff.
Ill say it again. You need a medium to large centrifuge.
I thought he has one already? Or am I remembering wrong?
Do you think that would separate out the different density metals in that viscous conglomerate?
@@jimwednt1229It would save time. But we don't know his schedule. I'm sure he would have one if he thought it necessary.
Would those water purification tablets work to bind the solids to settle?
I haven't even watched it yet, but want to thank you for the content. I've been watching old filter paper and waste refining. THANK YOU!!!
Just got the notification been waiting for the next batch of processes to enjoy and total u should always process your waste that's what makes it so Interesting to watch how much got away during the refining
8:27 the cement silver looked really cool when you flipped it over then centered it, it was like a bizarre clam
New Band Name: "Bizarre Clam"
@@BigFrankieC reminds me of a Tommy Chong joke;
I knew a girl with a tattoo of a clam on her thigh, and when you put your ear to it, you could smell the ocean.
I had some questions about the selectivity of DMG, so I did some online research. I want to caution viewers who are, like me, wannabe precious metal purifiers to take a look at the health and safety issues surrounding dimethylglyoxime. Of course, you already need to be more careful than the average bear to deal with platinum group metals, but DMG isn't exactly a weak sister either. I would have provided a link but I think posts with links get canceled.
Great video Senior Chief!
I’m waiting on bated breath lol look forward to seeing what pull out of this stuff. You are super patient. Look forward to the next one. Cheers.
You are a patient man to continue to work with these PGMs. They seem so finicky to work with!
Brilliant series, I loved the timelapses. Looking forward to part 9. ❤
Looking forward to seeing part 9.
Hopefully we get to see a palladium button or maybe a small bar.
WHAT IF ?...
(Silver+PGM) solids --> Nitric boil --> separation solution from solids (settling, decanting, filtration of liquid, then washing and vacuum drying solids on the same filter)
mixed solids may be set aside for later processing (very likely less-than 0.5% silver in the mixture)
(Silver+PGM) solution --> Diluted chlorination --> separation PGM solution from silver chloride (same way as for "nitric boil" solution)
result: Silver chloride 990 to 999 purity, PGM solution (with silver less than 0.01%), PGM (may be with some gold) solids (also with decreased silver contamination)
I love what you do and I can't wait to watch your videos. I love your honesty when you know something and say I know. you do not know. You say it frankly, I salute you, sir
its so fascinating to see this chemistry at work
This has been a very informative and interesting series of video I'm enjoying it very much thank you sir six stars
The real reason you get all of this metal and go through all this problems, it’s because it’s just really cool to do.😂
Could you dry it then possibly melt the reddish powder or mud maybe make into a bar send it off to see what metals are contained and do you think it would be better or make it inert this is so fascinating thank you SREETIPS your the best
By inert I mean safer as a bar instead of fine particles
if i recall correctly , last year you sent a bead out to be analyzed that originally started as rose colored and the bead came back indicating rhodium was present.. i think you should do that again.. at that point it would be certified and valuable just like postage stamps from the 19th century... Cheers
35:55 - Shades of "Will it blend?" :)
Honest content is the best, I've learned more when you get stumped than when you have a smooth as glass refining, so Thank you for putting this out in a non-professionalized, "I know every damned thing about this subject"-way.
It gives me shades of Julius Sumner Miller: why is it so?
Did you ever get the feeling that the title of this video should have been "Don't know what that is..."
Seriously though, great video and your knowledge and process is far superior to many of the other refining channels I've seen here on YT & so entertaining too.
Keep up the great work, I can't wait to see how you get on.
It’s funny but I watched a video recently from another popular channel and he used almost verbatim some of the same things Mr Sreetips said and it felt a little like he has seen these videos and was using the same method on gold.
Sir! I think Frugal Refiner (DAVE) on the GRF mentioned the technique of separating the Palladium and platinum from a solution.
I'm sure you'll do it but might as well send that purple precipitate in to the refiner as Rhodium if not just to see what's in it
So basicly, what we see is the left over of your process. You refine gold from impure gold (karats gold + silver + copper + trace of PMG). It gives silver cement through excess nitric disolving extra sterling + copper piece (silver + trace of gold/copper/PMG). You make silver shots, your refine the silver through the cell, but at the end of the day, you have a mix of some amount of gold, silver, copper and PMG (the mud that stays the silver cell filter). I'm trying to figure out what you want to do here... Not sure. Pull the PMG out? recover as much gold and silver? It's not a critic. I just have a hard time figuring out what's the goal line here.
I think you have to look at this from the perspective that it is his hobby, because it absolutely does not make economic sense. Other than possibly some ad revenue from the videos.
If it was me, I'd probably just try to get as much of the gold and silver out of the filter mud as I could, precipitate out whatever else is in there, melt it down, and send it to whatever that company he used in an earlier video to identify the elemental composition of a button, and see if the would want to buy it.
@@mayonaden Another one puting words in his mouth... It's a YT disease lately. I haven't asked if this makes economic sense nor what YOU would do... I'm asking what are HIS objective.
The goal is to recover as much of the metals as practical, learn new things as I go (I’m making this up as I go), and provide new content for my TH-cam channel.
@sreetips
i'd say you're definitely meeting all of those goals swimmingly
besides, what else are you going to do? it's better than being cooped up inside all day doing nothing
@@looweeg4229
Why are you being so hostile? I don't think my comment warrants that.
Hahahahaha Christmas has come early with you getting the beakers back
Love the series sreetips, goodluck with this moving forward
the cuper nitrate that you cave can be used to cupper elecro plaiting stuff (useful to build circuit boards), if there are people interested to buy that solution that for you is trash :) (just an ideea)
you can use alcohol to dissolve the DMG, it will do a much better job than water and shouldn't interfere with any other reagents you're using
I’ve heard that. Thank you
What kind of alcohol?
@@sreetips ethanol
I wanna see how many other metals you got that can be table top cast. Maybe sell off some small copper bars for the channel
Gooood afternoon from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great afternoon!
Goooood afternoon!
Hello David .. Sreetips.
Enjoy the morning/day/evening/nights. Hope both of you is ok 🙃. God bless you both. Arne
@@arnedalbakk6315 it was a great day! Wishing you the best my friend!
Hello My friend .thank you so muth. Here in Norway right now it is very cold. Have a great day my good friend.
@@DavidDavis-fishing You are truly a good friend Davids 🔥God bless you my dear friend.
And god bless the USA...
I pray from my heart that the people in your land will get the
President that God perifere.
Always nice to talk whit you David...Take care 🔥 Arne
You can use baking soda to precept palladuim it will turn yellow from the green liquid if you add hydro it will go to red but if you want to seperate the pall and plat you use baking soda it will sponge yellow filter out the pall sponge and the red liquid is platinuim thats how you seperate it i never use dmg i go cheap and easy way
What about experimenting with electromagnetic separation of those platinum metals?
Very interesting Sreetips. Fun to watch.
If you have gold in with pt and pd and silver you keep it a lil acidic with hydo and use zinc to get the gold out then filter gold then you use baking soda to seperate the pd and pall then filter pall sponge out and your left with pt and silver then you use copper to cement silver out then your left with pt red black solution then you use caustic soda to precept pt then stick a piece of iron to turn pt to metal pt and pall you roast with filter then you melt all seperated metals hope i helped you out screetips good ol buddy thats the easiest and cheapest way to do it
@Ancientastronaut411 I am no expert, but rather a casual student in this hobby. So I am not trying to critique, but to learn. In your step 1 of your process you suggested dropping only gold with zinc. Wouldn’t this drop everything less reactive including the pt, pd, au, ag?
@@john30039 no actually it dont i experimented on it or you can use smb i forgot to add that on there now alluminuim will drop everthing in the book bit smb would be the best bet
Love your content but I have a request. Could you go through the process of dissolving gold with sodium thiosulfate, ammonia, and copper sulfate? There after the process of cementing the gold from solution.
Gold is not soluble in those compounds.
20 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 😅
I assume the green solution is a Nickel Nitrate, an iron compound like an iron chloride, or maybe a form of platinum chloride
I think the red powder will contain PT I would hit it with AR after incineration and with the DMG PT and RD I would use AR then drop Pt with ammonium chloride and drop the PD with sodium formate or formic acid but you have to lower the PH
Is there a way to use powdered silver in a electrolytic cell?
It clogs the filter
Wouldn't it be simple enough just to smelt all the anode slimes with some refined gold to collect every atom of metals and then just run it through another refining batch? If there's some gold it goes right through to the refining and if there's silver you get it back as cement again
I wonder what would happen if you put the solution yyou want to settle into the ultrasonic. If it would cause it to settle rapidly or to never settle.
Sweet video. Question how do you clean your glassware? It always looks brand new!
Alconox, rinse with distilled water. Air dry in the dishwasher rack
@@sreetips If you are in a hurry to get it dry, rinse out the distilled water with acetone.
I'll have to look into where to get the Alconox. Do you make your own distilled water or do you buy it? I'm guessing that you have a distiller. Great work. Metals sure are fascinating. @@sreetips
Alconox on eBay, distilled water (about twenty gallons per month) bought at the grocery store.
Thank you @@sreetips
GJ Sreetips! Now you have enough to make your own Stark Arc Reactor 😆
Very excited for episode 9
Awesome brother looking forward to the next part.
i jusy had a thought seeing that you never throw a way your fitter papers to process at a later date and rinse and repeat every time your papers get to much you must be getting quite a build up of rhodium on them fitters by now
Agree
@@sreetips have you been able to find anything on how to process the rhodium yet or check out the rhodium refining videos that i have sent you in the past
Yes, but it’s still an enigma to me. I’m late in life, late in my refining career. Exploring new things just ain’t as fun as it used to be. Someone once said that if you turn your hobby into your work, then it becomes just that, work.
@sreetips that is very true. ohh well, i still love the videos you sent out
Suggestion from a fellow TH-cam content creator, rather than filling the comments with links to the other parts, setup a playlist on your channel with the various parts in one place. This gives you additional description fields for more search engine optimization (SEO) text and your videos will be found by the google and TH-cam crawlers for your search engines and pushed to more viewers. You may also consider having additional playlists covering your videos that are separated out into silver cell operation, gold refining, silver shot, palladium, PGM, and other various categories so you will tailor what videos will be pushed to people searching for content like yours.
Wish I could sit down and do all that. I’m too busy making the videos. My hobby feels like it’s a job.
Awesome keep the videos coming I’m addicted ☠️
Im fascinated with chemistry vids and all sorts of nonsense. 😂
@@cheeserdane Same 👍 Now I wish I did chemistry in school 🙈
When you suspect there's platinum group metals in solution do you step up your safety procedures due to the toxicity of such things?
I make sure that none of it gets on me. The best safety is to avoid it altogether. I hate working with platinum.
@@sreetips I'd feel the same way I think.
Hi Sreetips 👋🏻
I wonder why The PGM's tend to clog up the filters.
There’s something in there not right pgm that causes clogging
Platinum ores from the west side of South America can have extremely high Osmium values .
Osmium forms nice crystals
Did you say you have a 4 liter beker ? Dang it ! I now have beker Envy lol .
Danke fur denn tips ich lene immer wieder von ihnen was intresantes und
ich habe eine frage uns wahr mit dem roza schlam ,Ist ein iridium oder rodium ? nemlich ich habe von denn auch etva 489 gram ging aber nicht mahl mit konigswasse auch nichts mit andren seure 🤷haben sie wiesen uber rodium oder eine Video von gegenheit nemlich ich habe gesucht nichts gesehen 😊❤
Rhodium is an enigma. I don’t even know how to detect it.
@@sreetips danke für Antwort,,LG
Anyway you could separate the metals through electrolysis? The platinum group metals.
Maybe, but not at the hobby level.
@@sreetips Yeah I wasn't thinking, someone else might try it and platinum is deadly poisonous.
Is it that platinosis is such a great fear, or is it that the PGM separation & refining is complicated enough not to be worth it at the scales you're working on?
Both
Per your experience, would heating the cementing beaker speed the exchange of Cu for Ag?
I don’t know, I’ve never tried it. If stirred periodically the silver will cement out in about 24 hours.
I was thinking about the HNO3 boils and thought about Newton's 2nd Law...and it occured to me to ask.
Learned more watching you, Nurdrage n Nile Red than any high school chemistry class. Love your channel, dude. I look forward to every series and it was lovely to see your wife pour an ingot.@@sreetips
and omegageek64 and Silver Stoll. great stuff!
Green is copper or mix of palladuim platinuim will turn green as well
I think you are forgetting something you did when you did you first did Platinum refining experiments. Gold likes to percipitate from dilute solutions and PGMs from higher concentrated solutions. I think you need to estimate how great your yield is and adjust the amount of water by evarporation from the solution you will percipitate PGM's from.
at this point, I wonder - can a centrifuge be used to speed up the settling of the solids?
Possibly
Gratz on getting your beakers back Sreetips, I know you've been after them for a while now. Heh heh 😉
Why not recover every bit one can....thats like burning $. Not to mention we get the pleasure of being there with you learning as you go!!
Entropy guarantees that you can never get 100%
At some point the cost of reagents and and time comes up against diminishing returns
@26:30 you just didn't have enough force from those drops to stir it up
Amazing. Well done Sir! 🫡
Excellent video once again thank you 😊
Might be a stupid question however my research isn't yielding me many results. The Purpose of this would be to extract what you already have, being the silver nitrate, into fine silver form. but. how could this system be used to yield silver in an economic way... for example to buy silver nitrate, would cost more than the silver is worth, (why would a company sell something that has more value in its contents than what they offer) i guess my question is, is there a way to use this process to yield more silver than the monetary value you put into the cell? i know you've spoken of making your own silver nitrate, however does that change any of the monetary calculations? Thank you to anyone with any insight.
You want to know how to acquire silver for less than it’s worth. Here’s how we do it: I’m up at 5am, going to an estate sale that’s scheduled to begin at 8:30am so I can be first in line. Why? Because they have a sterling silver flatware set. I know the person that does the sale. He owns a company and that’s all they do, sell dead people’s stuff for the heirs. They use the grossly undervalued “spot price” of silver to determine their asking price, plus, he knocks off ten percent! But in order to get it, I must first in line when they open the doors at 8:30. Personally, I don’t like going to these sales, but my wife loves it. So I get up early and go with her, mostly as security and support. Silver is very cheap. Remember that price and value are two totally different things. Everybody knows the price, but few understand the value. You can’t go wrong buying silver. Because it’s not an investment. Silver is money. Paper dollars are a money substitute. Holding your savings in paper, that’s declining in value faster than a snowball melting in July, is a bad idea. Holding your savings in silver, that’s rising, is a much better idea. Especially right now, when silver is completely out of favor.
If that is indeed Rhodium, I'd definitely look into ways to refine it. Its current price is ~10.500 dollars _per_ _ounce_ .
I don’t know where folks are getting those prices. According to kitco.com rhodium is $4150 bid and $4950 ask right now.
@@sreetips - Would that not make it worth refining? Or is the quantity simply too small?
I always wonder why you don’t reuse the anode baskets once they are cleaned?
They won’t fit
Excellent.
@5:30 Perhaps if you would add a flat plastic grid (like a sieve) on top of the filters, it would prevent the possible damaging of the filters when stirring with the glass rod or by the remaining copper wires.
I always get slightly dissapointed when i watch your videos.... they are to short... cant wait for nr 9.😊
Just curious, will an XRF analyzer work on the “solids” you have left in your filters? Might be a worthy investment.
Since those solids are salts, not metallic, an xrf probably won’t work.
@@sreetips If you ever get the chance, try to scan your cement silver with an XRF analyzer…fun experiment.
@@ryanhenderson4395 like sir said, XRFs are best used with melted metal in its compressed form where all the atoms are bind tightly together. Salts, ores, loose sediments are no good for an XRF analyzer. The instrument is always going to give a negative feedback for the same because its purpose does not fit the use here.
I looked into it. They cost as much as a car. Rent for $1500 per week, or $4500 per month. Includes a curtesy visit by local authorities to ensure it’s being used properly. I’m just a hobby refiner, that’s much too much for my small operation.
@@sreetips Too expensive. Maybe you could do a TH-cam collaboration video with Cody from Cody’s Lab…he has one. Or even a collaboration with Jason from MBMLLC….combine your techniques. Again, thank you for all the hard work and great content!
TKzz for sharing.,.,.,peace
Sir, have you tried making your own copper bars?
No
I've got a question for you. How do you clean the thing you put the filters in to filter the liquid.
With a brush. I use that funnel for silver only.
Can't wait for part 9 !!!!
Looking forward to part 9🎉😊
is there a way to purchase Gold directly from you? Actually, I have some questions in regards to purchasing gold, and not in small amounts. Where is the best place to purchase gold in 50, or 100 oz bars. please feel free to contact me at your convenience.
Hello, buying gold is a wise decision. Selling makes no sense. We buy at local sales.
Where is the best place to buy in bulk without paying way over spot?
I’m in Austin Texas
ARAgold.com in Dallas. Set up an account. Or Elemetal Direct (note no “N” in Elemetal). You must have an account for both. They sell gold, with a premium. With gold so grossly undervalued, you’re not going to find many gold holders wanting to sell you their gold, at any price. Those who do sell gold, make their profit from the premium that they charge. I don’t think they even stock the gold. As soon as they receive your order, they have it drop shipped and keep the premium. I could be wrong, but I think that’s how gold sellers do it. We buy at yard sales, estate sales, flea markets, consignment stores, etc… we pay way under spot price (remember that price and value are two totally different things). People are clueless about gold. They believe, incorrectly, that paper dollars are more valuable than gold. This misconception enables us to find gold at ridiculously reduced prices. It’s a gold-buyers paradise out there. But people are starting to wake up. It’s getting more difficult to find. People are finally starting to realize that their valuations are based on a mountain of debt. And they don’t want to get stuck with stacks of worthless paper.
Id check with some of the big refiners.
Would running the silver powder in the silver cell work? Is it more efficient to melt it into shot?
Powder clogs up the filter.
If I had the money to buy all that equipment I wouldn't need to buy all that equipment.
WHAT IF YOU MAKE A DMG SOLUTION USING ETHYL ALCOHOL? THEN USE THAT TO PRESIPITATE YOUR PGMS?
IVE NEVER TRIED IT, BUT IT WOULD PROBABLY WORK OK.
New Sreetips video drops, I click. Period. 💪👍👍
Q: If you can use the stannous chloride to precipitate the palladium as a tester wont that work for the main solution? surely its a matter of just dropping it out of the solution and filtering the precipitate like normal
I’ve never tried stannous to precipitate palladium.
In the time lapse of the small beaker settling, what was dripping down the wall on the left?
Condensate
It seems like you keep any mystery-meat that comes out of your stock-pot and filter refining videos, and it ends up back in your stock pot again, or in your paper storage. Silver (and white gold) are very often rhodium plated, and you've gone through such a large volume of gold and silver by now that you must have accumulated a non-trivial amount of rhodium. Is the red gunk rhodium? Or any of the other mystery-meat left over from your other refinings? I don't know, but you've got rhodium somewhere. You probably have enough material accumulated by now that it's time to go find it.
It’s an enigma. I don’t even know how to detect it.
@@sreetips Extractions&Ire *just* posted a video on Rhodium chemistry that might help you out. He gets that same brick-red color you're seeing, and he linked a paper that should help with the chemistry. He also goes through the process with some improvisation and mistakes along the way, which should be helpful, and his videos are very entertaining.
Hello friends.
Hello Mrs and Mr sreetips.
Sreetips.... national tv...I know that would be a instantly success.
Tv producers...agree??
Rust colored compound could be palladium 2 chloride or palladium oxide
I thought of that.
Or Rh salt.
Its crazy how it suspends like as if the liquid was thick or sirrupy
Could the red color precipitation be from copper?
Doubtful.
People don’t have extra funds because they threw away the pennies. Every little bit counts in the long haul 👊🏻
If I ever make a silver cell I’ll just send you the waste instead of sending it to the trash.
Muito bom vídeo,parabéns. Es um ótimo professor.
I'm gonna keep saying it, please write a book before you retire sir! A book about metals and economy not just refining
Gold is money!
Very inspiring