Kudos to you Senior Chief. Just shows how little slips past your normal recovery and refining. You have this down to a science and it shows. I also applaud you for even touching PGM's. Keep up the awesome videos!
Definitely find it most fascinating when you work with Platinum Group Metals, as there are very few videos showing their extraction. Would love to see you acquire some ruthenium and/or iridium from spark plugs!
I wonder if you could knock down the foam with your stirring rod or magnetic stir-bar before it gets out of hand, like how one has to stir constantly when making caramel on the stove to prevent boilover
That foam reminded me of the palladium fountain you were speaking of earlier. This is a classic I will watch over and over. Zn is very reactive. Maybe use Cu instead with a little heat. It is a much more controllable reaction.
Given that there doesn't seem to be a lot of PGMs in the stuff that Mrs. Sreetips keeps bringing home, and the difficulty of handling it, it may be better to cement it out on the zinc like we see at @14:52, dry it off, and let it accumulate until a refinery will buy it.
They’ll buy it now. I plan to do a refining of the platinum and palladium. Rhodium? Don’t know about that. None of the refiners I deal with give credit for rhodium. Can’t recover it. Can’t refine it, can’t sell it. I can’t even detect it.
When your solutions starts to foam up 10:35 you use a jet of water from the squirt bottle (no technical terms here!). Would it have helped if you had used a mist of water instead?
I used aluminium for cementation 4l of liquid on a 8l container, and it did came over and i didn't even go as hard as you on it, didn't expect you'd toss more pieces. A water spray would of helped quite a bit more than the water jet.
I notice that the watch has some oxidation on it. Is this caused by being in the fume hood? If yes, would this be a reason why the heaters keep packing up?
I don't blame you if you don't want to deal with the PGM's beyond this point. That little precipitation mishap could have ended very badly. Thanks for the videos, as always.
DGM is the best and safest thing to use for palladium recovery. There is also the formate method, but that requires close monitoring of the pH, as the reaction only works in a fairly narrow pH range. DGM just works the best. Platinum can be a major pain to purify. Best thing to do seems to be to drop silver with HCl or sodium chloride, then drop palladium with DGM, then just cement what's left over in the solution on copper.
What a long process for you to deal with this material. And in the end there isn't enough there for you to pull a button out. That was unfortunate with the boil over, but so difficult to avoid that with the tall beaker. I'm betting in the industry they would use a large vat with as much surface area on the top of the liquid as possible.
For the foaming at 11:30 I stumbled upon a little trick that has saved me a few times now. I use a small, refillable butane torch and skim the flame over the top of the bubbles. It does an amazing job of popping them and keeping the mess from over-flowing. Obviously you need to be VERY cautious when doing this if there is a risk of H2 gas but when H2 isn't a risk it works great. Clearly wouldn't have been the best choice here though.
Hello! Your videos are very good, I can learn a lot from them! I refined Pd with chlorine tablets and ammonium chloride. I used too many powdered tablets and didn't notice that they didn't dissolve and I accidentally filtered them together with the red powder. So my question is, can I dissolve it in ammonia to get the yellow salt? Thank you!
Danke für denn Mühe .Ich bin afgespant das roten Schlamm, nämlich meine ging auch nicht mit Königwasser ,eine hat mir empfohlen das ich HCl und 99 pro hidrojen peroksit mit arbeiten..ich warte auf ihr nächste video ab,erst dann werde ich weiter machen ..LG
By putting zinc on pt and pd you have a pt and pd mix metal now thats the trick taking the palladuim out first so you can have pt pure with zinc and pall with soda in sponge hooefully helped you out on the next one ou would already had it seperated with the baking soda but you got add the soda slow cause it will boil over but then the sponge will be on bottom and red liquid filter got it quick just like that yeah screetips it took me a while to figure that pt pall seperate
After watching your videos for years and learning to refine from you, I would like to start doing some refining videos myself. However, before I do this I felt obligated to ask for your blessing/permission to do so because you have been my mentor and I would not want to offend you. I want to teach people everything possible about refining with a focus on personal safety. Let me know if you are ok with this.
What would happen if you got some gold chloride crystals in melt dish and blasted them with a torch? Would the chlorine just break away leaving you with metallic gold? Or would the gold chloride turn into a gas and leave you with nothing?
That yellow foam is palladuim when you use baking soda it foams just like that then it sponges then i filter and the red black is platinuim then i out zinc to make the platinuim the reason it over flowed cause the palladuim needs to come out first palladuim foams up bad but thats how you know if you have palladuim with out stannos with soda or zinc it will let you know quick
Great video as always. Learnt a lot from this. Did you try dropping the palladium with silver according to the reaction series of metals? You need an XRF to detemine the red unknown.
XRF detects atoms. It doesn't matter in what chemical compound they are (metal, salt, any other). You can watch Ben's video if you want to know how it works and what's actually inside an XRF gun: th-cam.com/video/KdfHVcU8U7U/w-d-xo.html
Please forgive me for asking is it worth chasing all the pgm's in your slimes filters. I can understand gold, but all the platnum and palladium would the yield be worth chasing them
It seems such a hassle to recover such small amounts of PGM's. Only Rhodium is priced well enough to be worthwhile, but you don't find that much around anyway. Doing it for entertainment value is priceless though, and may bring much more income.
This is a very intense video series I'm going to Go out on a limb and say that the black mud is going to be gold just guessing sir thank you for sharing this interesting video with us six stars
The zinc - when you dropped I think it was the 3rd & 4th or maybe 4th & 5th pieces, two of them together and the 2nd one was a big chunk, I was like oh shit he's trying to bubble it over, and then you kept dropping more and I was like hmmmm I wonder if he'll be able to control this with water, hope he's ready to capture it 🤣🤝🤘
I’ve done the zinc/PGM reaction many times. I used an extra large beaker. This has some thing in it (who knows what?) that’s causing problems all along the way. I may switch to silver chloride conversion, just to avoid having to process these silver cell slimes.
When I first started refining about thirteen years ago, I became interested in recovering scrap copper. The refiners that I learned from tried to explain that it’s not worth it. I ignored them and did it anyway. It cost more than it’s worth in fuel to melt it and it produced pitiful results. Made a believer out of me. I have so much PMs to deal with and I’m all backed up. I just don’t have the time to devote to doing anything with copper. It’s very useful in refining silver. But after that, it becomes waste.
@@sreetips I understand and respect that. I do. I'm just wanting to contribute to the channel. Maybe a Patreon? Or a merchandise store? I'll buy a coffee mug.
@@sreetips Heck, at this point I'd settle for sending you and the wife an Outback Steakhouse e-gift card. I get so much enjoyment out of what you do and I want to give back. I know you don't need it, but I want to throw free, worthless paper dollars at you. 💰
All very interesting, thank you ! I would get confused with so many differently colored solutions in the beakers. Wouldn´t know which one already has been stripped of silver ions, which one is goint to be treated further for PGM´s, which one would need refinery etc.. You are a true master, like a poker gamer.
That pinkish color is RHODIIM THERES no test for rhoduim except one way i fugured out but you gotta have moonshine to do it or ethenal but one day maybe you take the rhoduim challange now thats a challenge to make rhoduim theres only two things that disolve rhoduim regia wont and to make it drop another challenge and to make it metal is the biggest of them all but its the prettiest metal you ever see besides gold but in the pt metals its rhoduim i can do it and more of them all is irriduim dont think pt is over irriduim is in your solution as well i can get that out as well now irriduim you have to be a rocket scientist screetips and roduim almost too but irriduim is way out there
I'll be honest..I like watching your videos. On this series it seems as if your chasing in circles. I know enough about about this to call water h2o. I think you should keep trying different things but also not beat yourself up when it doesn't go as planned.
As a person I trust would you be able to help in a pendant for my wife in memory of her mother? Not for a handout...a proper price of course. If so I don't know how to reach you. It must have a cardinal in center and no plated gold. In essence an heirloom for our daughter.
Every episode of this series has been one disaster after another. I give you lots of credit for perseverance but maybe stick to gold and silver. Just keep pushing the pgm’s further down the stockpot line.
Kudos to you Senior Chief. Just shows how little slips past your normal recovery and refining. You have this down to a science and it shows. I also applaud you for even touching PGM's. Keep up the awesome videos!
Looking good can't wait till ep 10. I love the silver cell slime and stock pot videos... you never know what's going to happen. Exciting lol
That elephant toothpaste will provide a platinum smile! 😉
You’re awesome, you always make me smile with your dialogue “man this is just great “ not sure why but you made me laugh. Love your patience.
Definitely find it most fascinating when you work with Platinum Group Metals, as there are very few videos showing their extraction. Would love to see you acquire some ruthenium and/or iridium from spark plugs!
This episode is action packed with great content.
Oh I forgot. I'm new to your channel and I love to watch you work.
I'm limiting myself to 2-3 video's per week, don't want to binge.
I had a lot of Snipes as friends, Senior, but none who had the lab techniques you do. Another great video.
I wonder if you could knock down the foam with your stirring rod or magnetic stir-bar before it gets out of hand, like how one has to stir constantly when making caramel on the stove to prevent boilover
That zinc sure made a reaction. Fascinating video as always. 👍🏻
That foam reminded me of the palladium fountain you were speaking of earlier. This is a classic I will watch over and over. Zn is very reactive. Maybe use Cu instead with a little heat. It is a much more controllable reaction.
What a great way to end the day, thanks sir for the upload.
Given that there doesn't seem to be a lot of PGMs in the stuff that Mrs. Sreetips keeps bringing home, and the difficulty of handling it, it may be better to cement it out on the zinc like we see at @14:52, dry it off, and let it accumulate until a refinery will buy it.
They’ll buy it now. I plan to do a refining of the platinum and palladium. Rhodium? Don’t know about that. None of the refiners I deal with give credit for rhodium. Can’t recover it. Can’t refine it, can’t sell it. I can’t even detect it.
Holy cow that was alot of foam. This has been a amazing series. So much to learn
Ooohhhh noooo, I hate when that happens. How lovely... L0L. Fun stuff Sir Sreetips !!!
Just watched part 8 so I love not having to wait for the next one! ;)
When your solutions starts to foam up 10:35 you use a jet of water from the squirt bottle (no technical terms here!). Would it have helped if you had used a mist of water instead?
Possibly, but doubtful
I used aluminium for cementation 4l of liquid on a 8l container, and it did came over and i didn't even go as hard as you on it, didn't expect you'd toss more pieces. A water spray would of helped quite a bit more than the water jet.
Gooood evening from central Florida! Hope everyone has a great night!
Goooood evening!
I notice that the watch has some oxidation on it. Is this caused by being in the fume hood? If yes, would this be a reason why the heaters keep packing up?
Yes
You are welcome. It’s worth it! Thank you Sir!👍👍🤟
I don't blame you if you don't want to deal with the PGM's beyond this point.
That little precipitation mishap could have ended very badly.
Thanks for the videos, as always.
DGM is the best and safest thing to use for palladium recovery. There is also the formate method, but that requires close monitoring of the pH, as the reaction only works in a fairly narrow pH range.
DGM just works the best.
Platinum can be a major pain to purify. Best thing to do seems to be to drop silver with HCl or sodium chloride, then drop palladium with DGM, then just cement what's left over in the solution on copper.
What a long process for you to deal with this material. And in the end there isn't enough there for you to pull a button out. That was unfortunate with the boil over, but so difficult to avoid that with the tall beaker. I'm betting in the industry they would use a large vat with as much surface area on the top of the liquid as possible.
Man, I was waiting to see a pure platinum melt for once!
Congratulations 😊 excellent video once again thank you!!! You forgot to remind everyone how dangerous those metals are in solution!!!
Great video mr Sreetips :) Could you please turn up the sound a bit though? I found it hard to understand at times. Thanks for sharing
Will do
Did you give the value of this series of 9? Would be interesting.
No
For the foaming at 11:30 I stumbled upon a little trick that has saved me a few times now. I use a small, refillable butane torch and skim the flame over the top of the bubbles. It does an amazing job of popping them and keeping the mess from over-flowing. Obviously you need to be VERY cautious when doing this if there is a risk of H2 gas but when H2 isn't a risk it works great. Clearly wouldn't have been the best choice here though.
Hello! Your videos are very good, I can learn a lot from them! I refined Pd with chlorine tablets and ammonium chloride. I used too many powdered tablets and didn't notice that they didn't dissolve and I accidentally filtered them together with the red powder. So my question is, can I dissolve it in ammonia to get the yellow salt? Thank you!
I don’t know, I’ve never tried that.
Thank you!
The plot thickens brother. Bring on the next episode
Danke für denn Mühe .Ich bin afgespant das roten Schlamm, nämlich meine ging auch nicht mit Königwasser ,eine hat mir empfohlen das ich HCl und 99 pro hidrojen peroksit mit arbeiten..ich warte auf ihr nächste video ab,erst dann werde ich weiter machen ..LG
@19:05 If you would use a glass mirror underneath, then you would not need to peek from "Down Under".
By putting zinc on pt and pd you have a pt and pd mix metal now thats the trick taking the palladuim out first so you can have pt pure with zinc and pall with soda in sponge hooefully helped you out on the next one ou would already had it seperated with the baking soda but you got add the soda slow cause it will boil over but then the sponge will be on bottom and red liquid filter got it quick just like that yeah screetips it took me a while to figure that pt pall seperate
After watching your videos for years and learning to refine from you, I would like to start doing some refining videos myself. However, before I do this I felt obligated to ask for your blessing/permission to do so because you have been my mentor and I would not want to offend you. I want to teach people everything possible about refining with a focus on personal safety. Let me know if you are ok with this.
You don’t need my permission, just make sure you’re working in a fume hood.
What would happen if you got some gold chloride crystals in melt dish and blasted them with a torch? Would the chlorine just break away leaving you with metallic gold? Or would the gold chloride turn into a gas and leave you with nothing?
Probably go up in a beautiful puff of purple smoke. I wouldn’t try it.
2 👍's up sreetips thank you for sharing 😊
That yellow foam is palladuim when you use baking soda it foams just like that then it sponges then i filter and the red black is platinuim then i out zinc to make the platinuim the reason it over flowed cause the palladuim needs to come out first palladuim foams up bad but thats how you know if you have palladuim with out stannos with soda or zinc it will let you know quick
Great video as always. Learnt a lot from this. Did you try dropping the palladium with silver according to the reaction series of metals?
You need an XRF to detemine the red unknown.
I removed all the silver separated from the Pd salt.
Red unknown is a salt and probably wouldn’t be detectable with xrf.
XRF detects atoms. It doesn't matter in what chemical compound they are (metal, salt, any other). You can watch Ben's video if you want to know how it works and what's actually inside an XRF gun: th-cam.com/video/KdfHVcU8U7U/w-d-xo.html
What kind of material is the tray you use to hold the beaker made of and can you tell me where to buy it ? Thank you !
Corning ware.
I buy those at yard sales.
Some stock Zinc will come with a film or coating to keep it from reacting and some Zinc is dirty with Lead.
Mine has copper.
YEEEEEES. SREETIPS will not be defeated. 😊
Would a silver cell set up help separate the silver from silver/tungsten or other silver based alloys in silver contacts from switche gear
The silver going into the cell must be relatively high purity to begin with.
Woohoo 😁 I waited like crazy 🤪
Please forgive me for asking is it worth chasing all the pgm's in your slimes filters. I can understand gold, but all the platnum and palladium would the yield be worth chasing them
Yes
Right before it boiled over I was thinking "my goodness, that's foamy."
They Sreetips, do you keep the test strips and add them to a later refinement, or are the trashed?
Trash
Yessir🎉🎉 I love when you do PGMs
Some Carbon residues from the filter paper might be colored. Tar-like etc. This was fascinating with the foam and Pd. The Red stuff is a mystery.
Do you have a process of recovery for your chemicals or do you neutralize them?
Waste treatment
Excellent.
The last time I had a foam over like that I was trying to pour the Guiness too fast.
Great work! ❤ it that you keep it real.
This foam appears when there is aluminum contamination in the zinc. thanks for the videos
I’ve used the zinc in other reactions and did not get those suds.
it was necessary to set the foam on fire, the hydrogen would burn and there would be no foam left.
Didn’t think of that. I’d be scared of breaking the beaker. Hydrogen (mixed with air) is very explosive.
Havnt even watched yet but am already excited based on the comments 😅😊
Apparently the PGM's dropped during the Gold refining and Silver refining and so they can now be collected then refined. I don't know.
Curious what method you use to clean filthy beakers?
Alconox.
i see scrape gold bars on ebay for 69 dollars. is something like that worth refining?
Those are a scam. Two bucks worth of metal for $69. There’s gold, but traces only.
It seems such a hassle to recover such small amounts of PGM's.
Only Rhodium is priced well enough to be worthwhile, but you don't find that much around anyway.
Doing it for entertainment value is priceless though, and may bring much more income.
when you first put the zinc in, it looks like a root beer float
What do you do with the copper crystals that settle on the iron?🙂🙂
He throws it away.
@@ctvxl I do not think so
@@black_kaiser978 he throws it away. /me nods.
@@black_kaiser978 He has repeatedly said commented so under multiple videos.
Toss them.
Did you ever give the result value of this 9 part
I recovered some platinum powder, but not enough to do a complete refining.
You know I've watched a couple of others. And I've asked them questions, but they don't answer, you do. And for that I only watch you.. Thank you
Thank you!
Will this Saga continue?
Maybe one more
Awesome!
This is a very intense video series I'm going to Go out on a limb and say that the black mud is going to be gold just guessing sir thank you for sharing this interesting video with us six stars
Hi, would you like to collect all of your minor or major fails in to one video as a xmas special episode? :)
11:05 that was kinda funny actually 😂, sorry SREETIPS
I couldn't find the power source on eBay for my for a silver sell like the ones you have cuz I like the way they look could you send me a link please
It’s a 3010 regulated power supply. Thirty volts, ten amps.
DC power supply.
I wish this was in playlist form
I’ll look at that. I’m not sure how to do it.
Nice i was fooled In thought there would have been a lot more
The zinc - when you dropped I think it was the 3rd & 4th or maybe 4th & 5th pieces, two of them together and the 2nd one was a big chunk, I was like oh shit he's trying to bubble it over, and then you kept dropping more and I was like hmmmm I wonder if he'll be able to control this with water, hope he's ready to capture it 🤣🤝🤘
I’ve done the zinc/PGM reaction many times. I used an extra large beaker. This has some thing in it (who knows what?) that’s causing problems all along the way. I may switch to silver chloride conversion, just to avoid having to process these silver cell slimes.
I really like a nice head on my beer, but you Sir obviously love it.😊.
A plant sprayer might burst more bubbles with less water.
Watch that sleeve there streetips! Drip that PGM on you and you're in trouble.
It’s not that toxic. Volatilized Pt is the risky version. And a substantial amount of it.
Thats why i use baking soda to precipitate palladuim and platinuim stay in solution
proof once again, those Corelle dishes are there for good reason, learn from the master 🙂 !!!
مانوع المرسب الذي استخدم في ترسيب الملكي ?
So far I’ve used DMG and zinc metal to precipitate the metals.
@@sreetips
Vre naic porfsure 👍
I kind of miss the Frankenoven.
Hey I just watched a guy use computer scrape, vinegar, salt and hydrogen peroxide and 10 days
What do you Think?
I’ve used salt and vinegar myself - about ten years ago. Video of it posted.
Stennis cloride ist eine kalsium cloride ??
No
@11:38 I bet, that this is hydrogen in the foam.
I can't see very well hang on. _Lights a match._
@@ut000bs LOL.
I hear tell you have to be real careful working with platinum group metals.
nice
Ooooh I bet that’s Rhodium…
So cool
I know the foam over wasn't exciting for you but it was kinda exciting for me!
Sorry for my entertainment at your expense!!😮
I think there was some soap in there Shane.
I know you don't process Copper, but I'd give you $20 for a tiny bar of it that's stamped Sreetips. That's more than the spot price plus shipping.
Mr. K, I don’t know how to refine copper.
@@sreetips Just pour a bar. Don't refine it.
When I first started refining about thirteen years ago, I became interested in recovering scrap copper. The refiners that I learned from tried to explain that it’s not worth it. I ignored them and did it anyway. It cost more than it’s worth in fuel to melt it and it produced pitiful results. Made a believer out of me. I have so much PMs to deal with and I’m all backed up. I just don’t have the time to devote to doing anything with copper. It’s very useful in refining silver. But after that, it becomes waste.
@@sreetips I understand and respect that. I do. I'm just wanting to contribute to the channel. Maybe a Patreon? Or a merchandise store? I'll buy a coffee mug.
@@sreetips Heck, at this point I'd settle for sending you and the wife an Outback Steakhouse e-gift card. I get so much enjoyment out of what you do and I want to give back. I know you don't need it, but I want to throw free, worthless paper dollars at you. 💰
All very interesting, thank you ! I would get confused with so many differently colored solutions in the beakers. Wouldn´t know which one already has been stripped of silver ions, which one is goint to be treated further for PGM´s, which one would need refinery etc.. You are a true master, like a poker gamer.
Gotta either label them (preferable) or always keep them in the same place.
👍👍
That pinkish color is RHODIIM THERES no test for rhoduim except one way i fugured out but you gotta have moonshine to do it or ethenal but one day maybe you take the rhoduim challange now thats a challenge to make rhoduim theres only two things that disolve rhoduim regia wont and to make it drop another challenge and to make it metal is the biggest of them all but its the prettiest metal you ever see besides gold but in the pt metals its rhoduim i can do it and more of them all is irriduim dont think pt is over irriduim is in your solution as well i can get that out as well now irriduim you have to be a rocket scientist screetips and roduim almost too but irriduim is way out there
Hit that like button!!
I'll be honest..I like watching your videos. On this series it seems as if your chasing in circles. I know enough about about this to call water h2o. I think you should keep trying different things but also not beat yourself up when it doesn't go as planned.
Good advice, thank you. Just so you know, I feel the same way. Chasing my tail. But that’s the nature of this type of scrap.
As a person I trust would you be able to help in a pendant for my wife in memory of her mother? Not for a handout...a proper price of course. If so I don't know how to reach you. It must have a cardinal in center and no plated gold. In essence an heirloom for our daughter.
Rhodium reds
🙂
Foam will be S
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Every episode of this series has been one disaster after another. I give you lots of credit for perseverance but maybe stick to gold and silver. Just keep pushing the pgm’s further down the stockpot line.
Nice video
Did you give the value of this series of 9? Would be interesting.
I have not