His grapple in exploration is absolutely insane I’ve literally been exploring for fun for the first time in a long while. Like I find it hard to close the game, its that fun
@@Uefeti He feels way better than the dendro saurian. Plus he can glide after he grapples, with the saurian you can only jump once then fall. Plus Kinich doesn’t take any fall damage unless you fall from VERY high up after you skill. It’s making me reckless…
The best thing is he's so fun even outside Natlan. Yesterday I went around the Sumeru jungle till the end of desert. Then went from Liyue harbor to Chenyu vale. Plus he's faster then Xianyun and Wanderer.
It may not be addressed since Abyss video but holy his exploration grappling hook felt better than I imagined. Keeps momentum, if you go into a cliff Ajaw boosts you up abit, a fair amount of fall damage protection after the bungee ends and pretty low CD makes him very speedy. Though I rather Mualani's ground traversal this makes me wish they didnt smack her dash jump boosts in the beta.
Actually, if you use your E and do not press any other button, you can't take fall damage, no matter how high you fall, probably it's gonna get patched but it's crazy
@@m_milos mmmmm I used It on the mountain of liyue with the statue of the Seven which has a similar height, maybe I lack just a couple of meters to reach the point
As someone whose reaction time isn't the most insane, it seems to me at least that they give you enough time to see where the blind spot spawns for more night soul points, double loop shot your way to it and land your 『RASENGUN』 shots 4 times pretty reliably before your nightsoul blessing runs out for his burning teams. Kinich feels really fun to me. Still don't have a good Natlan set for him, so I've just been using 4 Golden Troupe in the meantime. Good luck to everyone still pulling, and good luck to everyone still farming the Natlan artifacts. Big thanks to Zajef and the editing team for these videos. 👍
Me too! I don't still have natlan artifact set on him so I just slap reverie leftovers artifact I get while farming for Emelie, and bro, Kinich hitting 250k in the abyss like nobody's business 😅😅😅
I wasn't sold on him from the leaks but the moment i tried his demo i fell in love with the playstyle, thank god hoyo is finally making dendro characters that aren't focused on hyperbloom and quicken
It’s a placebo effect. Because there’s MULTIPLE times in the video where Kinich uses his e OUTSIDE Bennet’s burst and does all his dmg unbuffed by Bennet. Zajeff took use out of Bennet for less than 50% of the time. Bennet and Xiangling ain’t doing the carrying yall thing they are doing and the proof is in the literal 25 min long video Zajef posted. Watch the Gameplay. Mualani doesn’t care for either of them too since Dehya/Emelie does just as much the Bennet/XL without any ER requirements and draining the team off ER.
I hate that they keep adding reasons for us to swap sets but without giving us build templates to make that more convenient. Since they released the Imaginarium Teather, that forces me to use almost all of my characters, I don’t swap artifacts ever.
I mean, I initially put deepwood on emilie because I had a set ready but when I thought about it I realized there was no reason not to keep her on it. Why bother switching it onto dehya when I use dehya on another team? I'm not ever going to be someone willing to swap gear for different content.
@@grizzledsentinel4691 same here. Emilie damage on deepwood or the burning set is similar, (unless there's someone else on deepwood), so it's not like she is losing damage and that way she is also buffing Kinich.
@@grizzledsentinel4691 I can relate. My Emilie is on deepwood set and I just started farming Reverie set after I got her. Farming for that new set is horrible and up til now I only got one decent piece. I'm considering to not change her set it's frustrating.
I was playing kinich bennet xiangling xinqui, and i didnt realise its same old national but without sucrose, aww man i thought i was playing something new
He doesn't hate on new characters, he's just more critical of limited 5 stars than the average person because he doesn't want people to feel pressured to pull for them.
I love that kinichs attacks and boom missile can go through the entire PMA hitbox, but mualanis missiles cant even go past a 2 cm zhonglis pillar. that is some........................................wild shit
By technicality, Kinich's attacks are digital projectiles, so they're not really physical projectiles unlike Mualani's which are very much tangible projectiles in the same way projectiles enemies like fungi fire, while Kinich's attacks behave more like hyperbloom. His attacks are basically if hyperbloom were controlled by a burning/burgeon focused character. His cannon even auto tracks enemies like hyperbloom.
He’s one of the most fun characters i ever pull after Xianyun and Clorinde! His gameplay is just fun overall including exploration and combat. The damage right now is above average yet he still need other natlan support characters to unlock his full potential. Grab your Kinich, he’s not a regret
I was HARD saving 200 wish for Xilonen but he got in the way. Now I look at her as another boring support that none of my team's need and I now have C6 Chevruse as a bonus 🎉
@@Waisamakk you theoritically could get all 5 shots if you get lucky with his blind spot mechanic + good timing on his burst to extend his E duration. With more practice I think 5 shots with Kinich should be the upper norm, kinda like doing 9 CAs on Hutao Also some people discover that you can get his big shot out way faster if you do short hold E instead of just pressing it. This, however will require you to manually aim your cannon so if you have shitty aim, just stick with the tap E.
You can get it somewhat consistently in a burning team if you use his burst right after your first cannon shot. As soon as the burst animation is over you should be pretty much ready to shoot another without it costing any nightsoul duration since the burst extends it by 1.7s which is as long as the animation
The cancels avaliable to my knowledge are : 1) When you just fired a canon ball, use Ultimate : during this time burning stacks will triger and once out of burst a new canon ball is already ready. 2) Cancel shooting animation, by holding E for a short amount of time instead of tapping it, the shooting animation is canceled, by donig it 4 times, you can get the 5th cannon shoot. 3) Cancel the animation of Kinich ending his loop shoot. Basically, when he is gaining stacks at some point, when the bar is almost filled up, stoping doing loopshoots will enable skipping the animation of kinich ending loopshots. Canceling this is also enough to guaranty the 5th cannon shot.
Man even if he isn’t that strong, though I think he is, his ability it’s just TOO useful for exploration. Since I got him I’ve taken courage to collect my hydroculus, all of them, right now I’m on 101 ( I had collected like 8 of then). It just feels so nice to jump all around, the momentum, the helpfulness… just incredible. And I really enjoy his gameplay on open world, loving the noises and nostalgia it brings.
@@bulletpunch9317 His damage increased immensely but having to apply Nahida E makes his ult end making Baizhu better for his off field Dendro app and healing
Having over a 1000% multiplier on his cannon is actually ridiculous, even at C0 but he just exponentially gains even more damage with constellations. Considering that you can fire it like every 5 seconds on average, factoring in skill cooldown.
He’s super fun, haven’t ran him in abyss (already got my clear and don’t care to do it again) but I haven’t just ran around open world because I wanted to in a long time but kinich + xianyun in natlan is the most fun movement I’ve ever had in this game
Kinich is actually the exploration Archon even if he is not necessarily the fastest it's just so insanely fun to spiderman around. You can also swap to him when you're gliding with another charcter and he just swings into frame. Plus he is the best usage option for my Dehya because I just got her from the character invite and haven't built her yet. Deepwood memories Dehya ftw
Navia can use that weapon in team emilie/xiangling-bennet-geo flex, weapon passive will be 100% consistent thanks to burning and pyro crystallize reactions.
I like him a lot, but one thing that I will mention is that you basically must turn counter-clockwise if you're playing him with xiangling because you're missing out on so much xiangling damage otherwise. It matters less on teams that don't use furina, but still.
I think a lot of the hiccups you experienced against the fat boss are just the pyro fruits he spits on the ground. Like 16:118:08 They can be pretty disruptive, and just have unfortunately good timing.
21:55 interesting! i'm curious it seems a few other TCs like zajef and jstern are preferring furina over emilie. but from my experience and watching other CN runs emilie is clear 🤔 nice to hear your 1st impressions
I wonder if the investment level on the Emilies they are testing with is influencing things! Since she doesn't buff, she scales entirely with how much gem and resin investment she has, so at low investment with like fav lance and deepwood it would be very easy for Furina to outperform her. At speedrun investment (something like double crowned, with her signature set and maybe a 5* weapon) it seems reasonable for her to pull ahead again
@@Pheonee also isn't the standard for characters in CN different from the west? CN players tend to consider signature and cons into the overall character's strength while people like Zajef focus more on the f2p aspect of a unit, which often is C0R0
Because they play Emilie without actually investing in her. I think Zajeff had fav on her, which is so unnecessary cause she doesn't even have energy problems.
@@MrKadirbeywhat the hell is he supposed to put on her then ? have you ever considered that maybe he only had one DM for XL ? If I’m F2P, what am I supposed to put on her ? come on, you tell me.
I Really wish I liked his gameplay more. I got Emilie for him! But them I played his Demo to try him out.... And MAN I hated that Grapple-circle combat Sooooo much. I was quite bummed. I like his grapple out of combat! But I already have Xinyun and Wanderer for that. Its the Xilonen waiting room for me.
I had the same experience with Mualani, expected to like her alot but ended up not pulling due to her gameplay not feeling good to me. Kinich on the other hand suprised me - from 0 hype for him to enjoying quite alot
i'm in the same boat, emilie ready, mats ready, artifacts almost ready but man the trial. my laptop is also kinda old so it sometimes doesn't keep up with kinich's spinning and it's giving me motion sickness. I WANTED TO LIKE HIM SO MUCH because i like the pixel vibe and i was gonna pull for ajaw more than kinich. aaaand i already lost the 50/50 so now i have 2+ weeks to think if i really do want him or just wait for xilonen
yeah i feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all the positive reviews about his combat. I hate it. I'm glad other people enjoy it, I just don't get it.
The last thoughts section helped me to understand why i didn't liked much his playstyle, like, his reception was really positive and everyone is saying he's fun, but i have tremendous skill issue with his playstyle, so i couldn't understand how people felt he was easy to play. I guess i like Mualani more, as i prefer more straighfoward kits even if they are mechanically harder to use in pratice. But i'm happy Kinichi is a really solid option with a different playstyle than the rest of the rooster.
....................i mean you literally stated that a more clunkier character is preferred for you, so....yeah. Mualani is literally described as...feels like high ping even when on low ping, and one of the most clunkiest units with some of the worst gimmicks like the puffers (by jstern)
@@lostblueboy that's just an opinion. I also think Mualani is less clunky, because Mualani just makes you move faster and lets you move through enemies, but Kinich locks you into a circle, which is like an even worse version of Circle Impact. Maybe some people don't realize that you don't have to move in shark mode, you can just stay still on top of an enemy for a second to get all the stacks.
I mean even if you are just mindlessly spamming left click and E you'll still be able to get 4 cannons out, he functions just fine with unga bunga playstyle. The only problem right now is the Bennett circle which will probably get solved once he have better supports.
After the game gets good amount of characters in Natlan roster, I want to see how he performs against Fontaine big hydro boss, electro bat, twin Enkanomiya boss, and the dual Kairagi.
i'm having so much fun with him! as far as mualani vs kinich, i think i'd have to wait for mavuika to decide 😂 i love kinich/emilie/dehya/bennett, but there isnt really a team i like for mualani right now
My personal opinion is that Mualani seems kinda incomplete. I think Xilonen and Mavuika will not only make her strongerN but make her rotations work a lot better. As for Kinich, i think he works just fine. I am using Bennet, Dehya with deepwood and Emilie. Finally found a good place to put Emilie that was build and kinda lost on my account, i sometimes used her with Arlecchino, but it was not my fave Arlecchino team.
@@sealyaggington7488 i pulled for Emilie because i like to have more characters, my Furina is C1 and i might go for her C2 eventually. But yeah, she is a little like Kuki. When Kuki released, she was a very mid character. Just when dendro come out she become a very strong choice. But Kuki is a 4star, pulling for a 5 star and wait until they are good is bad D:. At least it was just one patch and now i have a good team for her.
I love how half of the times Xiangling pyranado is missing and doing nothing😂 I don't find her to be a great teammate for Kinish honestly, but sadly she is the only off field pyro DPS we have, so she is just alright. Also, I noticed that you can't get full stacks of Furina's buff (sometimes only 3 audience worth of buff) , so I wonder if it would better to swap her with any other off field damage dealer or a shielder.
I would hardly call Xiangling a pyro off field dps in Kinich teams, thus Thoma and Dehya are arguably better. Reason being Xiangling won't hit most of the time if not pendulum swinging and also, she will be on deepwood rather than a dps set like emblem, so Dehya or Thoma on deepwood does more for the team than Xiangling. Thoma can shield and better reach locked-on opponents you may be far from, while Dehya can hold supportive weapons like Makhaira Aquamarine, Wolfs gravestone in soms situations, or for the memes, Song of Broken Pines (takes more setup time). Thoma better than Xiangling since he can get ER refund from constellation so less funneling required and better reach even in burgeon, and Dehya is better because not energy dependent, supportive weapons to access (mainly at C2 since sac is for pre-c2 without a doubt), and Dehya's pyro app can better reach and track enemy. Wider circle impact for Dehya than for Xiangling.
I think its more ideal to use any other pyro applicator over Xiangling. Thoma is really good, especially if using Serpent Spine and retaining the stacks. Dehya since she is a cheaper and easier to build deepwood holder with better weapon options for her to support herself or kinich with, like sac sword, makhaira aquamarine, or even WGS in few situations.
Guys if you care about exploration get his C1, he pretty much becomes Yelan after using a grapple. Oh and he gets 100% Crit damage on his E or something.
Absolutely, i'm someone who usually doesn't pull for constellations and i'm tempted to get it because movespeed is so fun and feels so good in Overworld
i don't know man, it seems all natlan characters will have exploration abilities related to their tribe's saurian, people should save for new characters and get constellations on reruns if they really want them
Spending primos just for exploration doesn't seem to fit really well, all the other Natlan charas will have this exploration mechanic built into their kit so probably a better Scara out there
It is a nice C1 for exploration, but I think I’ll just use Yelan C1 in his exploration team, and probably the Pyro Archon in the future. I expect her to have her own exploration gimmick and to have good synergy with Kinich.
I think both kinich and Mualani are pretty close powerwise. The thing for me is that Mualani is just SO CLUNKY to play. I love her in the overworld, but in abism just feels like everything go wrong everytime. So I ended up enjoying kinich more
Agreed, she feels clunky ASF to play. But she is also def much stronger than kinich, but for only speedruns really. Forward vape at highest investments is crazy for speedruns, leaves me amazed always lol. But kinich is so much easier and fun to play, with being so powerful too. But mualani is basically sacrificing comfort for doing dmg that even exceeds the likes or arle and neuv(in the right conditions)
@@pierrotzzz when everything goes right she just deletes enemies and it's so satisfying, but in my experience it's like 10 retries minimum for that happen. Hopefully Xilonen and Mavuika (maybe even pyro MC? Surely there's a reason they're stalling the kit) will decrease the clunk and make reaching the highs much easier.
@@ambatubuh 10 tries is honestly a stretch, unless you're actively trying to speedrun. For clearing abyss, I didn't have to retry even once lol (Granted this was an easy abyss( But for speedruns? I'm in for at least 50 tries every sitting (I got 17 seconds as my best time this time on abyss 12's first chamber lol)
It's different taste and also skill issue. Mualani isn't really that clunky if played well. Really only fundamentally clunky thing is her puffers and ahving to chase enemy thus branching mroe distance between Mualani and the puffer. Missing attacks on enemies is a matter of ignorance of enemy attack patterns and positioning. Her burst is actually clunky, Her burst arcs so will miss an enemy directly in front of her. It's a lobbing shot. P.S. Leaks have shown that devs are fixing her skill targeting problems so you are no longer gonna miss shark bites, but I still think her shark missiles are left unchanged.
I quite like him, and his performance kinda surprised me a bit, even outside of abyss. But I'd like to ask, in the Furina team wouldn't it be better to put Bennet on deepwood? We would be loosing on some atk from noblesse, sure, but isn't XL damage more significant? It would be ass to switch artifacts anyway, but I wonder
Hi Zajef, could you please test how good is the following team? Kinich, emilie/nahida, thoma, dory(c6) I think this team has a good potential for overload, spread while getting some burning to fire more E skills. Looking forward to your review in post release. Thanks
I find it interesting that you didn't like Clorinde but you like Kinich. Don't get me wrong I think he's a little more fun as well, but they don't play too different, NA a few times then press skill. Burst is good but kinda optional. Team dps between the two isn't even too different (probably slight edge to Kinich, both are 70-75k dps)
I'm really enjoying Kinich in combat and exploration. I definitely try to optimise to an extent and usually clear abyss pretty easily and he's been plenty good enough for that while also being a lot of fun. I want to hear your experience about maintaining serpent spine stacks in the abyss. It's been pretty awful for me in domains and overworld, but I haven't done the abyss with him yet.
it's fine but worse than proto amber, so not really worth it. yaxche and amber give the same amount of HP, but yaxche's passive is only NA bonus (worthless on nuev), while amber gives some energy (actually helpful for neuv, especially without furina) and minor healing (which is nice in furina teams).
Zajef In arlechinno vape teams Which one would potentially be better ? Arle yelan kazuha bennet Arle yelan mona Bennet I believe kazuha variant but a lot of people been saying mona ones stronger.
Kinich literally made me have the thought, "Genshin Impact shouldn't be this fun", that's how fun he is. (And the game was already pretty fun!) Thing is, he's the kind of character who is an absolute blast to experience even if you're not playing well, which suits me. (Provided that you like his playstyle to begin with, of course - it's unique, which also makes it naturally divisive.) Button mashing while spinning wildly around and randomly nuking for six digits is just plain fun and exhilarating, and it doesn't feel like your damage falls off a cliff if you make a mistake here or there, which if you're on bloody 320 ping like I am you certainly will. However, the RNG with his blind spots and occasional targeting jank makes me think he would be annoying to try and optimise for tight clears. Mualani is the inverse - she is exponentially more rewarding the more careful you are with setting up her vapes properly, which is why you're seeing insane speedrun records from her, but if you're just playing casually or at a lower level of execution she becomes frustrating very quickly due to running out of uptime and missing her projectiles. At least, that's been my experience with the two; I also find that Mualani's camera issues that pop up on mobile are much harder to deal with than Kinich's, since Kinich is a character you can kind of play "blind" while Mualani obviously demands a lot of attention. Both are completely marvelous in the overworld, even outside of Natlan (since you can just swap to another character to fill their microscopic 6-second downtimes)
I spent about 50 fragile resin in new domain, but my obsidian set still cannot outperform my burning set. I only farm whimsy/burning set for a week without any resin refreshes...
Kinich is one of my favorite characters because I can put him in a team with Neuvillette, Yelan, and Kuki just so I can call it Dragon Bloom Z. The team performance is ok but the name is just awesome.
Hey zajeff! whats your opinion on using mona ttds with tenacity on his teams instead of furina? For some reason Its my highest dmg team but i havent seen any creator talk about mona in his teams
Suggest that for future broken blessings (I don’t see them going back on them) you use a +0 goblet to offset it, that’s what I did for testing this abyss Also man swapping deepwood around is a pain
Damage threshold? Were you trying to compare Maulani and Kinich? I’d say it’s hard because Maulani has big spurts of damage while Kinich is more consistent with big bursts more upfront. However what distinguishes him from her is his constant skill damage and Ajaw, which deals consistent damage. Unlike Maulani where she’ll be hitting at most 4 times with sharkii and a burst from time to time for huge vapes. So it comes down to play style preferences I think. I value consistent damage, no matter how “little” because it gives me flexibility to make mistakes and still keep my damage in the upper echelons. While Maulani has damage windows where if you mess up then you’re quite punished by working with way less damage.
I tested him a bit in trial but i found his gameplay and exploration a bit convoluted, surely it could be a skill issue but every time i used him in combat it felt like i was doing something wrong or not fully using him...
I was really just trying to get C6 chevreuse and C6 Sara and was actually hoping to lose my 50/50 to get Dehya or Tighnari cons and got his C1… I am actually very happy that I didn’t lose the 50/50s cause goddamn he is so fun even just for exploration
Need some help, I was pulling for Rauden C2, got c1 and was just 10 pull away from a 5 star. Use materglitter to get wish and accidentally wasted my pity on Kinich weapon. Now should I get C2 raiden with catch or Kamich c0 r1 which is better Don't have Emilie and have C6 Sara
It's a me problem, when i saw kinich i wanted to pull for him but after i played him in trail I missed some of his shots and I got a little dizzy maybe he is not for me. His exploration is fire though.
I ACCIDENTALLY got Surfs Up building pity. So i used a 10 pull on Mualani (at 70 pity) and got her C1. All that WASTED when i was saving for Kinich...fuuuuuuck.
ok, I've seen a few videos about him and none of them even mention spread... is there something preventing it from working or is burn/burgeon simply THAT much better, where it's not even worth mentioning?
it's as you guessed, burn/burgeon really is that good for him. of course, he's not unplayable in spread/hyperbloom teams with strong units like furina/kuki/nahida/yelan/XQ, but then again so is kaveh (he'll be better than kaveh ofc, but significantly worse than units that actually work in those teams like tighnari/alhaitham). the scaling on his e hit is just so high that losing 1-2 of them isn't worth the damage gained from a few spreads
The Abyss buff lets my Kinich get sub minute side clears with a codex set with 60 cr 138 cd, with a big chunk of the crit rate coming from Beacon. Needless to say, his artifacts are shit, but thanks to the blessing I can still test out teams with him and just have fun playing him cause I love his playstyle so much. Was thinking that he might make me consider pulling for Emili, but I think he will feel completely fine without her, and my favorite teams with him are Thoma burgeon teams anyway.
Fun and decently strong, yet clunky like Mualani before him. I fear hoyo didn't iron out the kinks when it comes to the upgrade in movement and mobility with Natlan characters. I wonder if Xilonen will be the same. Outside of combat, however, the movement and mobility as far as exploration is concerned is quite polished. They're really going to make me pull every single Natlan character thanks to how different their movement is from one another. Hoyo pls. 😭
I still have bad luck with the obsidian set roll, so my kinich got this decent cinder set, and i put him in 2 dendro 2 electro/pyro team and call it ''kinich is still BUFFering'' team, able to clear abyss 2nd half in decent time 😂
Did not pull Mualani. Pulled Kinich, C1R1 and he is so much fun to play…. He is still a work in progress artifact and talent wise. So far he is doing really well…
How much worse is it to play Dehya/Thoma instead of Xiangling in the Furina Bennet team? I just don't feel like swapping Xiangling to deepwood every time
@@amandaslough125 we were talking about using Kinich with Furina + Bennett, Dehya doesn't have enough pyro app to keep the burning aura nor trigger burgeon frequently enough to get Kinich's passive
You would rather use Yelan or Xingqui. Nahida isn’t doing anything in that team. The em buff is useless on Kinich and Nahida isn’t activating quicken so she won’t be doing much damage either. The hydro also gets to vape and adds some burgeons.
Nahida buffs EM which Kinich doesn't really need, and he already have fast Dendro app, so Nahida is fine but she basically have as much value as Dendro MC in his teams, Furina would be a better choice (damage % buffs, better at multi-wave and she can vape her hits)
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His grapple in exploration is absolutely insane I’ve literally been exploring for fun for the first time in a long while. Like I find it hard to close the game, its that fun
Had the same feeling with Nalan zaurians in general.
Does he feel better than the Dendro one?
@@Uefeti because you cant switch seamlessly on saurian mode. having 2/3 nathlan character is really boost you exploring experience.
@@Uefeti He feels way better than the dendro saurian. Plus he can glide after he grapples, with the saurian you can only jump once then fall. Plus Kinich doesn’t take any fall damage unless you fall from VERY high up after you skill. It’s making me reckless…
The best thing is he's so fun even outside Natlan. Yesterday I went around the Sumeru jungle till the end of desert. Then went from Liyue harbor to Chenyu vale. Plus he's faster then Xianyun and Wanderer.
@@Uefeti yea feels way better than the dendro saurian. Especially since hes a character he can do so manu more things than the dino.
It may not be addressed since Abyss video but holy his exploration grappling hook felt better than I imagined. Keeps momentum, if you go into a cliff Ajaw boosts you up abit, a fair amount of fall damage protection after the bungee ends and pretty low CD makes him very speedy.
Though I rather Mualani's ground traversal this makes me wish they didnt smack her dash jump boosts in the beta.
if you do a NA after the bungee he takes zero fall damage no matter the height
Actually, if you use your E and do not press any other button, you can't take fall damage, no matter how high you fall, probably it's gonna get patched but it's crazy
@@jgierer12 every character can do this with a plunge attack at the right height?
@@gazakanathere is a height limit, i tried it by grappling off the jade chamber and he did die
@@m_milos mmmmm I used It on the mountain of liyue with the statue of the Seven which has a similar height, maybe I lack just a couple of meters to reach the point
Positive review aintnoway
As someone whose reaction time isn't the most insane, it seems to me at least that they give you enough time to see where the blind spot spawns for more night soul points, double loop shot your way to it and land your 『RASENGUN』 shots 4 times pretty reliably before your nightsoul blessing runs out for his burning teams.
Kinich feels really fun to me. Still don't have a good Natlan set for him, so I've just been using 4 Golden Troupe in the meantime.
Good luck to everyone still pulling, and good luck to everyone still farming the Natlan artifacts. Big thanks to Zajef and the editing team for these videos. 👍
Me too! I don't still have natlan artifact set on him so I just slap reverie leftovers artifact I get while farming for Emelie, and bro, Kinich hitting 250k in the abyss like nobody's business 😅😅😅
I wasn't sold on him from the leaks but the moment i tried his demo i fell in love with the playstyle, thank god hoyo is finally making dendro characters that aren't focused on hyperbloom and quicken
Me too, his canon dmg is just insane and I didn’t realise it until I saw it in game
4 years in and Bennett still so fucking dominant.
Its crazy how so many different characters still feel bad when you dont play them with him.
atk chars get lower scalings because of benny sadly
Thats why they put newer on lower scaling but Furina and might be furure chatacter can solve this problem
I'm just glad that characters I like don't want him
It’s a placebo effect. Because there’s MULTIPLE times in the video where Kinich uses his e OUTSIDE Bennet’s burst and does all his dmg unbuffed by Bennet. Zajeff took use out of Bennet for less than 50% of the time. Bennet and Xiangling ain’t doing the carrying yall thing they are doing and the proof is in the literal 25 min long video Zajef posted. Watch the Gameplay. Mualani doesn’t care for either of them too since Dehya/Emelie does just as much the Bennet/XL without any ER requirements and draining the team off ER.
@@BlizandrioBennets buff doesn't go away instantly when you leave his circle
To be honest the deepwood set and artifact swapping is infuriating for me
I hate that they keep adding reasons for us to swap sets but without giving us build templates to make that more convenient.
Since they released the Imaginarium Teather, that forces me to use almost all of my characters, I don’t swap artifacts ever.
I mean, I initially put deepwood on emilie because I had a set ready but when I thought about it I realized there was no reason not to keep her on it. Why bother switching it onto dehya when I use dehya on another team? I'm not ever going to be someone willing to swap gear for different content.
@@grizzledsentinel4691 same here. Emilie damage on deepwood or the burning set is similar, (unless there's someone else on deepwood), so it's not like she is losing damage and that way she is also buffing Kinich.
@Kkshii7 kinda not? Not using deep wood on her means you are using it on someone else which also means it is a relatively important damage loss
@@grizzledsentinel4691 I can relate. My Emilie is on deepwood set and I just started farming Reverie set after I got her. Farming for that new set is horrible and up til now I only got one decent piece. I'm considering to not change her set it's frustrating.
I was playing kinich bennet xiangling xinqui, and i didnt realise its same old national but without sucrose, aww man i thought i was playing something new
deceived XD
It's always National OPPA
The illusion of free choice
My first impression was hes the funnest character ive ever played. Love the mobility in his combat.
yeah i think he’s actually my favorite! i might’ve found a main
Zajef not hating on a new character? Impossible…
Who did he hate on? 🤔
He doesn't hate on new characters, he's just more critical of limited 5 stars than the average person because he doesn't want people to feel pressured to pull for them.
He's been paid to love 😆
(Jokes)
if genshin fans cant separate criticism from hating, u have mental illness
Give it a few weeks
I love that kinichs attacks and boom missile can go through the entire PMA hitbox, but mualanis missiles cant even go past a 2 cm zhonglis pillar. that is some........................................wild shit
baffled that we hold beta tests at all for this game
@@Neloch4I really think beta testers are not doing their job, they're just out there all about leaking the beta only
@@Neloch4why blame the beta testers when it’s the devs who allowed this to happen. Remember what happened to Dehya?
@@markvosotros2103 did u misclick ur reply cause that isn't what I said lol
By technicality, Kinich's attacks are digital projectiles, so they're not really physical projectiles unlike Mualani's which are very much tangible projectiles in the same way projectiles enemies like fungi fire, while Kinich's attacks behave more like hyperbloom. His attacks are basically if hyperbloom were controlled by a burning/burgeon focused character. His cannon even auto tracks enemies like hyperbloom.
He’s one of the most fun characters i ever pull after Xianyun and Clorinde! His gameplay is just fun overall including exploration and combat. The damage right now is above average yet he still need other natlan support characters to unlock his full potential. Grab your Kinich, he’s not a regret
As a Xianyun and Clorinde enjoyer, I'll try to get him!
I was HARD saving 200 wish for Xilonen but he got in the way. Now I look at her as another boring support that none of my team's need and I now have C6 Chevruse as a bonus 🎉
@@ChromaToneMusic You know she also has exploration ability. You will find out when she comes out.
@@robinj4286 I've seen the leaks looks awesome but she is just 5* Kachina
The chalenge in the chalenge while playing kinich is to get the 5th cannon shot, I love it!
I can't get it 😅😅😅
I am stuck with 4 canon shots only
You can?? I’ve been only getting 4 shots this entire time in a burning team 😭
@@Waisamakk you theoritically could get all 5 shots if you get lucky with his blind spot mechanic + good timing on his burst to extend his E duration. With more practice I think 5 shots with Kinich should be the upper norm, kinda like doing 9 CAs on Hutao
Also some people discover that you can get his big shot out way faster if you do short hold E instead of just pressing it. This, however will require you to manually aim your cannon so if you have shitty aim, just stick with the tap E.
You can get it somewhat consistently in a burning team if you use his burst right after your first cannon shot. As soon as the burst animation is over you should be pretty much ready to shoot another without it costing any nightsoul duration since the burst extends it by 1.7s which is as long as the animation
The cancels avaliable to my knowledge are : 1) When you just fired a canon ball, use Ultimate : during this time burning stacks will triger and once out of burst a new canon ball is already ready. 2) Cancel shooting animation, by holding E for a short amount of time instead of tapping it, the shooting animation is canceled, by donig it 4 times, you can get the 5th cannon shoot. 3) Cancel the animation of Kinich ending his loop shoot. Basically, when he is gaining stacks at some point, when the bar is almost filled up, stoping doing loopshoots will enable skipping the animation of kinich ending loopshots. Canceling this is also enough to guaranty the 5th cannon shot.
Man even if he isn’t that strong, though I think he is, his ability it’s just TOO useful for exploration. Since I got him I’ve taken courage to collect my hydroculus, all of them, right now I’m on 101 ( I had collected like 8 of then). It just feels so nice to jump all around, the momentum, the helpfulness… just incredible. And I really enjoy his gameplay on open world, loving the noises and nostalgia it brings.
deepwood emilie truthers don't have artifact swapping issues 🙏💯
@@gonzalodiez6336 its actually better if Bennett uses deepwood tho. Leave emilie and kinich woth the burn set.
@@ruy7164 you won't have much uptime with Bennett on Deepwood since he doesn't have any form of off field damage
@@ruy7164Bennett on deepwood? How are you sustaining the res shred?
@@almightynoob1631 ahh true. Forgot about that part.
When Mavuika comes out that's what you're gonna be stuck with most likely. Unless you play the Furina teams where Emilie is just not there at all.
Kinich rn is in his “Cyno pre-Nahida” phase aka Mavuika waiting room, all the comfortable pyro options are too slow
Did cyno become meta after that?
more like nilou pre-nahida
@@bulletpunch9317 His damage increased immensely but having to apply Nahida E makes his ult end making Baizhu better for his off field Dendro app and healing
@@bulletpunch9317 Cyno post-Nahida still isn't great.
no because Kinich is already good and will get better once Mavuika comes out. Cyno on the other hand...
Having over a 1000% multiplier on his cannon is actually ridiculous, even at C0 but he just exponentially gains even more damage with constellations. Considering that you can fire it like every 5 seconds on average, factoring in skill cooldown.
Kimchis character trial hasnt done him any favours imo...espescially considering the next trial is full rational
He’s super fun, haven’t ran him in abyss (already got my clear and don’t care to do it again) but I haven’t just ran around open world because I wanted to in a long time but kinich + xianyun in natlan is the most fun movement I’ve ever had in this game
actually had issues with motion sickness (luckily only on mobile), liking him more than mualani as well YEP
Kinich is actually the exploration Archon even if he is not necessarily the fastest it's just so insanely fun to spiderman around. You can also swap to him when you're gliding with another charcter and he just swings into frame. Plus he is the best usage option for my Dehya because I just got her from the character invite and haven't built her yet. Deepwood memories Dehya ftw
kinich is the only character to use the earth(thug) shaker
Navia can use that weapon in team emilie/xiangling-bennet-geo flex, weapon passive will be 100% consistent thanks to burning and pyro crystallize reactions.
@@candlekeep she uses the rump shaker then
His sig is also isnt that flexible for other char since the psssive is really just for him
navia
My Dehya is currently using it
I like him a lot, but one thing that I will mention is that you basically must turn counter-clockwise if you're playing him with xiangling because you're missing out on so much xiangling damage otherwise. It matters less on teams that don't use furina, but still.
I think a lot of the hiccups you experienced against the fat boss are just the pyro fruits he spits on the ground. Like 16:11 8:08
They can be pretty disruptive, and just have unfortunately good timing.
indeed. Didn't see them explode
21:55 interesting! i'm curious it seems a few other TCs like zajef and jstern are preferring furina over emilie. but from my experience and watching other CN runs emilie is clear 🤔 nice to hear your 1st impressions
I wonder if the investment level on the Emilies they are testing with is influencing things! Since she doesn't buff, she scales entirely with how much gem and resin investment she has, so at low investment with like fav lance and deepwood it would be very easy for Furina to outperform her. At speedrun investment (something like double crowned, with her signature set and maybe a 5* weapon) it seems reasonable for her to pull ahead again
@@Pheonee also isn't the standard for characters in CN different from the west? CN players tend to consider signature and cons into the overall character's strength while people like Zajef focus more on the f2p aspect of a unit, which often is C0R0
Because they play Emilie without actually investing in her. I think Zajeff had fav on her, which is so unnecessary cause she doesn't even have energy problems.
@@MrKadirbeywhat the hell is he supposed to put on her then ? have you ever considered that maybe he only had one DM for XL ?
If I’m F2P, what am I supposed to put on her ? come on, you tell me.
@@nanathedelta8561 not fav on a character that burst every other rotation.
I Really wish I liked his gameplay more. I got Emilie for him! But them I played his Demo to try him out.... And MAN I hated that Grapple-circle combat Sooooo much.
I was quite bummed. I like his grapple out of combat! But I already have Xinyun and Wanderer for that.
Its the Xilonen waiting room for me.
The trial is terrible tho
Tbf the trial was optimized very poorly, his exploration in over world is actually super smooth
I had the same experience with Mualani, expected to like her alot but ended up not pulling due to her gameplay not feeling good to me. Kinich on the other hand suprised me - from 0 hype for him to enjoying quite alot
i'm in the same boat, emilie ready, mats ready, artifacts almost ready but man the trial. my laptop is also kinda old so it sometimes doesn't keep up with kinich's spinning and it's giving me motion sickness. I WANTED TO LIKE HIM SO MUCH because i like the pixel vibe and i was gonna pull for ajaw more than kinich. aaaand i already lost the 50/50 so now i have 2+ weeks to think if i really do want him or just wait for xilonen
yeah i feel like I'm taking crazy pills with all the positive reviews about his combat. I hate it.
I'm glad other people enjoy it, I just don't get it.
I was able to fully clear second half with all stars using Kinich Furina Baizhu and Thoma. It was very seamless and comfy tbh.
The last thoughts section helped me to understand why i didn't liked much his playstyle, like, his reception was really positive and everyone is saying he's fun, but i have tremendous skill issue with his playstyle, so i couldn't understand how people felt he was easy to play.
I guess i like Mualani more, as i prefer more straighfoward kits even if they are mechanically harder to use in pratice. But i'm happy Kinichi is a really solid option with a different playstyle than the rest of the rooster.
....................i mean you literally stated that a more clunkier character is preferred for you, so....yeah.
Mualani is literally described as...feels like high ping even when on low ping, and one of the most clunkiest units with some of the worst gimmicks like the puffers (by jstern)
@@lostblueboy for me both are cluncky, but Mualani is more simple to play (not easier), just mark the enemy 3 times and you are done.
@@lostblueboy that's just an opinion. I also think Mualani is less clunky, because Mualani just makes you move faster and lets you move through enemies, but Kinich locks you into a circle, which is like an even worse version of Circle Impact. Maybe some people don't realize that you don't have to move in shark mode, you can just stay still on top of an enemy for a second to get all the stacks.
@@lostblueboy are u a sheep who cant accept that other people can have different opinions? wah wah.
I mean even if you are just mindlessly spamming left click and E you'll still be able to get 4 cannons out, he functions just fine with unga bunga playstyle. The only problem right now is the Bennett circle which will probably get solved once he have better supports.
wait the haircut looks so good!
After the game gets good amount of characters in Natlan roster, I want to see how he performs against Fontaine big hydro boss, electro bat, twin Enkanomiya boss, and the dual Kairagi.
tbh The same thing happened with Neuvillette and the meme that he alone was capable of defeating the abyss xd
i'm having so much fun with him! as far as mualani vs kinich, i think i'd have to wait for mavuika to decide 😂 i love kinich/emilie/dehya/bennett, but there isnt really a team i like for mualani right now
My personal opinion is that Mualani seems kinda incomplete. I think Xilonen and Mavuika will not only make her strongerN but make her rotations work a lot better.
As for Kinich, i think he works just fine. I am using Bennet, Dehya with deepwood and Emilie. Finally found a good place to put Emilie that was build and kinda lost on my account, i sometimes used her with Arlecchino, but it was not my fave Arlecchino team.
Agreed. I'm personally kind of glad I skipped Emilie because she has no way of competing with my c2 Furina 💀
@@sealyaggington7488 i pulled for Emilie because i like to have more characters, my Furina is C1 and i might go for her C2 eventually. But yeah, she is a little like Kuki. When Kuki released, she was a very mid character. Just when dendro come out she become a very strong choice. But Kuki is a 4star, pulling for a 5 star and wait until they are good is bad D:. At least it was just one patch and now i have a good team for her.
I love how half of the times Xiangling pyranado is missing and doing nothing😂
I don't find her to be a great teammate for Kinish honestly, but sadly she is the only off field pyro DPS we have, so she is just alright.
Also, I noticed that you can't get full stacks of Furina's buff (sometimes only 3 audience worth of buff) , so I wonder if it would better to swap her with any other off field damage dealer or a shielder.
that's why most of the time she is not the main damage dealer and only using deepwood
If you have emilie run kinich-emilie-bennett-thoma or dehya or swap emilie for furina/baizhu or even lynette.
Yeah which is why Dehya
I would hardly call Xiangling a pyro off field dps in Kinich teams, thus Thoma and Dehya are arguably better. Reason being Xiangling won't hit most of the time if not pendulum swinging and also, she will be on deepwood rather than a dps set like emblem, so Dehya or Thoma on deepwood does more for the team than Xiangling. Thoma can shield and better reach locked-on opponents you may be far from, while Dehya can hold supportive weapons like Makhaira Aquamarine, Wolfs gravestone in soms situations, or for the memes, Song of Broken Pines (takes more setup time). Thoma better than Xiangling since he can get ER refund from constellation so less funneling required and better reach even in burgeon, and Dehya is better because not energy dependent, supportive weapons to access (mainly at C2 since sac is for pre-c2 without a doubt), and Dehya's pyro app can better reach and track enemy. Wider circle impact for Dehya than for Xiangling.
I think its more ideal to use any other pyro applicator over Xiangling. Thoma is really good, especially if using Serpent Spine and retaining the stacks. Dehya since she is a cheaper and easier to build deepwood holder with better weapon options for her to support herself or kinich with, like sac sword, makhaira aquamarine, or even WGS in few situations.
Guys if you care about exploration get his C1, he pretty much becomes Yelan after using a grapple. Oh and he gets 100% Crit damage on his E or something.
Absolutely, i'm someone who usually doesn't pull for constellations and i'm tempted to get it because movespeed is so fun and feels so good in Overworld
i don't know man, it seems all natlan characters will have exploration abilities related to their tribe's saurian, people should save for new characters and get constellations on reruns if they really want them
Spending primos just for exploration doesn't seem to fit really well, all the other Natlan charas will have this exploration mechanic built into their kit so probably a better Scara out there
It is a nice C1 for exploration, but I think I’ll just use Yelan C1 in his exploration team, and probably the Pyro Archon in the future. I expect her to have her own exploration gimmick and to have good synergy with Kinich.
@@deadencicle apparently pyro archon can move on a bike
It's kinda hard to consistently do 4 burning shots on mobile 24fps 150+Ms, but it's a fun play style for sure.
I think both kinich and Mualani are pretty close powerwise. The thing for me is that Mualani is just SO CLUNKY to play. I love her in the overworld, but in abism just feels like everything go wrong everytime. So I ended up enjoying kinich more
Agreed, she feels clunky ASF to play. But she is also def much stronger than kinich, but for only speedruns really. Forward vape at highest investments is crazy for speedruns, leaves me amazed always lol. But kinich is so much easier and fun to play, with being so powerful too. But mualani is basically sacrificing comfort for doing dmg that even exceeds the likes or arle and neuv(in the right conditions)
@@pierrotzzz when everything goes right she just deletes enemies and it's so satisfying, but in my experience it's like 10 retries minimum for that happen. Hopefully Xilonen and Mavuika (maybe even pyro MC? Surely there's a reason they're stalling the kit) will decrease the clunk and make reaching the highs much easier.
@@ambatubuh 10 tries is honestly a stretch, unless you're actively trying to speedrun. For clearing abyss, I didn't have to retry even once lol (Granted this was an easy abyss(
But for speedruns? I'm in for at least 50 tries every sitting (I got 17 seconds as my best time this time on abyss 12's first chamber lol)
It's different taste and also skill issue. Mualani isn't really that clunky if played well. Really only fundamentally clunky thing is her puffers and ahving to chase enemy thus branching mroe distance between Mualani and the puffer. Missing attacks on enemies is a matter of ignorance of enemy attack patterns and positioning. Her burst is actually clunky, Her burst arcs so will miss an enemy directly in front of her. It's a lobbing shot.
P.S. Leaks have shown that devs are fixing her skill targeting problems so you are no longer gonna miss shark bites, but I still think her shark missiles are left unchanged.
Deepwood Dehya gang checking in ☝🏻
I quite like him, and his performance kinda surprised me a bit, even outside of abyss. But I'd like to ask, in the Furina team wouldn't it be better to put Bennet on deepwood? We would be loosing on some atk from noblesse, sure, but isn't XL damage more significant? It would be ass to switch artifacts anyway, but I wonder
You would preferably want deepwood on someone with off field dmg to keep good uptime
Zajef, one of the best META theory crafters!
Kinich might not be on Neuvilette power levels META wise, but fun wise, his gameplay is great
Zajeff Wanderer review: ☠️
He's good, but he's really the most popular.
Try not to sneak Neuvillette into any meta discussion challenge be like.
girl what does neuvi have to do with this LMAO
Either way Neuvi will always be an unfair comparison, he's an exception.
@@vladdyruI mean, he is THE META, so it makes sense
Kinich is really fun to play 🔥
here before ludrawz
Hi Zajef, could you please test how good is the following team?
Kinich, emilie/nahida, thoma, dory(c6)
I think this team has a good potential for overload, spread while getting some burning to fire more E skills.
Looking forward to your review in post release. Thanks
I find it interesting that you didn't like Clorinde but you like Kinich. Don't get me wrong I think he's a little more fun as well, but they don't play too different, NA a few times then press skill. Burst is good but kinda optional. Team dps between the two isn't even too different (probably slight edge to Kinich, both are 70-75k dps)
I'm really enjoying Kinich in combat and exploration. I definitely try to optimise to an extent and usually clear abyss pretty easily and he's been plenty good enough for that while also being a lot of fun.
I want to hear your experience about maintaining serpent spine stacks in the abyss. It's been pretty awful for me in domains and overworld, but I haven't done the abyss with him yet.
Fell in love with Kinich and his gameplay at the first sight so I’m glad I saved 150 pulls for him and his weapon
And I like Ajaw too
Imagine testing a character on a 12-3-2 PMA: not only you have to go through the whole floor 12 but your clear also depends on RNG.
i suspect him and mualani gonna feel like whole different characters after mavuika and xilonen
Deepwood Emilie/Scroll Thoma/Bennett/Kinich has been SO fun on my end
Idk if you've answered this before but I was wondering if the new natlan craftable is fine on Neuvillette?
it's fine but worse than proto amber, so not really worth it. yaxche and amber give the same amount of HP, but yaxche's passive is only NA bonus (worthless on nuev), while amber gives some energy (actually helpful for neuv, especially without furina) and minor healing (which is nice in furina teams).
Keep prototype amber.
having so much fun with him! im glad i skipped mualani for kinich!
Zajef
In arlechinno vape teams
Which one would potentially be better ?
Arle yelan kazuha bennet
Arle yelan mona Bennet
I believe kazuha variant but a lot of people been saying mona ones stronger.
Xianyun Kinichi combo only works in Natlan
Wait a minute.... did they really put in an enemy *before* Maguu Kenki?!
Its over.
Kinich literally made me have the thought, "Genshin Impact shouldn't be this fun", that's how fun he is. (And the game was already pretty fun!) Thing is, he's the kind of character who is an absolute blast to experience even if you're not playing well, which suits me. (Provided that you like his playstyle to begin with, of course - it's unique, which also makes it naturally divisive.) Button mashing while spinning wildly around and randomly nuking for six digits is just plain fun and exhilarating, and it doesn't feel like your damage falls off a cliff if you make a mistake here or there, which if you're on bloody 320 ping like I am you certainly will. However, the RNG with his blind spots and occasional targeting jank makes me think he would be annoying to try and optimise for tight clears. Mualani is the inverse - she is exponentially more rewarding the more careful you are with setting up her vapes properly, which is why you're seeing insane speedrun records from her, but if you're just playing casually or at a lower level of execution she becomes frustrating very quickly due to running out of uptime and missing her projectiles. At least, that's been my experience with the two; I also find that Mualani's camera issues that pop up on mobile are much harder to deal with than Kinich's, since Kinich is a character you can kind of play "blind" while Mualani obviously demands a lot of attention. Both are completely marvelous in the overworld, even outside of Natlan (since you can just swap to another character to fill their microscopic 6-second downtimes)
I spent about 50 fragile resin in new domain, but my obsidian set still cannot outperform my burning set.
I only farm whimsy/burning set for a week without any resin refreshes...
hi zajef may i ask whether would i put deepwood on xiangling/furina/bennet in the kinich teams?Or would deepwood on xiangling always be the best case?
hmm, i wonder why every new character relies on off field pyro all off a sudden.
Kinich is one of my favorite characters because I can put him in a team with Neuvillette, Yelan, and Kuki just so I can call it Dragon Bloom Z. The team performance is ok but the name is just awesome.
Dragon Bloom Z is very good.
Hey zajeff! whats your opinion on using mona ttds with tenacity on his teams instead of furina? For some reason Its my highest dmg team but i havent seen any creator talk about mona in his teams
this abyss is kinda super easy to actually put him to the test
Suggest that for future broken blessings (I don’t see them going back on them) you use a +0 goblet to offset it, that’s what I did for testing this abyss
Also man swapping deepwood around is a pain
SO is Kenichi another bennet slave? they should just change the name of the game to Bennet Impact
For me, not really. My team is Dehya, Thoma, Furina and Kinich already hitting 200k in abyss, though it might just be the abyss buff 😅😅😅
Every attack scaling character is a Bennett slave, you shall not escape your 1.2k atk buff
How about Kinich, Emilie, Bennett with deepwood Zhongli as the flex, since I have an «The Unforged» R1 that wants the shield buff?
Damage threshold? Were you trying to compare Maulani and Kinich? I’d say it’s hard because Maulani has big spurts of damage while Kinich is more consistent with big bursts more upfront.
However what distinguishes him from her is his constant skill damage and Ajaw, which deals consistent damage. Unlike Maulani where she’ll be hitting at most 4 times with sharkii and a burst from time to time for huge vapes.
So it comes down to play style preferences I think. I value consistent damage, no matter how “little” because it gives me flexibility to make mistakes and still keep my damage in the upper echelons. While Maulani has damage windows where if you mess up then you’re quite punished by working with way less damage.
I tested him a bit in trial but i found his gameplay and exploration a bit convoluted, surely it could be a skill issue but every time i used him in combat it felt like i was doing something wrong or not fully using him...
I was really just trying to get C6 chevreuse and C6 Sara and was actually hoping to lose my 50/50 to get Dehya or Tighnari cons and got his C1… I am actually very happy that I didn’t lose the 50/50s cause goddamn he is so fun even just for exploration
Oh wow natlan, the nation of pyro, got released ..and guess who got buff (agaib)? Xl ofc
I’m actually surprised you like his gameplay loop. It’s extremely similar to Clorinde and you didn’t care for her by your final impressions
Need some help, I was pulling for Rauden C2, got c1 and was just 10 pull away from a 5 star. Use materglitter to get wish and accidentally wasted my pity on Kinich weapon. Now should I get C2 raiden with catch or Kamich c0 r1 which is better Don't have Emilie and have C6 Sara
Easily one of the most fun charas in the game for me
It's a me problem, when i saw kinich i wanted to pull for him but after i played him in trail I missed some of his shots and I got a little dizzy maybe he is not for me. His exploration is fire though.
how much ER does Xianling have in a team with out benny?
250+
What can you play for sub dps instead of emilie? Nahida? Or Fischl for example?
XIngqui, Yelan or Furina. Nahida doesn't do much for him, Fishl I have no idea honeslty
I ACCIDENTALLY got Surfs Up building pity. So i used a 10 pull on Mualani (at 70 pity) and got her C1. All that WASTED when i was saving for Kinich...fuuuuuuck.
Would triple Pryo be viable with him?
19:16 Well done Xingqiu, you managed to save Kinich from Bennett's incredible liability
Why does he have a Kinich weapon? or it is the new natlan craftable
How many pulls did it take you?
Damn i was hoping to see how much worse quicken teams would be
ok, I've seen a few videos about him and none of them even mention spread... is there something preventing it from working or is burn/burgeon simply THAT much better, where it's not even worth mentioning?
highest source of charged skill replenishment is in burning enemies.
it's as you guessed, burn/burgeon really is that good for him. of course, he's not unplayable in spread/hyperbloom teams with strong units like furina/kuki/nahida/yelan/XQ, but then again so is kaveh (he'll be better than kaveh ofc, but significantly worse than units that actually work in those teams like tighnari/alhaitham). the scaling on his e hit is just so high that losing 1-2 of them isn't worth the damage gained from a few spreads
It's not worth mentioning. Just get a spread character for spread.
read his passive talent. he is like onfield emilie (+burgeon)
It is indeed just not even worth mentioning
now i was wondering why i did 300k with his E, didn't realise the moon blessing was that strong for natlan
Now onto the real queston. How broken is he. Couldnt care less about fun
very strong and very f2p in terms of teams and weapons, overall would say he is one of the stronger dps
kinich c2 or emilie c2 for the dendro shred?
The Abyss buff lets my Kinich get sub minute side clears with a codex set with 60 cr 138 cd, with a big chunk of the crit rate coming from Beacon. Needless to say, his artifacts are shit, but thanks to the blessing I can still test out teams with him and just have fun playing him cause I love his playstyle so much. Was thinking that he might make me consider pulling for Emili, but I think he will feel completely fine without her, and my favorite teams with him are Thoma burgeon teams anyway.
calling your sands good is like, girl...
be fr (joke, love ur vids, been a fan since early sumeru
i really need to see hyperbloom kinich with dori
Fun and decently strong, yet clunky like Mualani before him. I fear hoyo didn't iron out the kinks when it comes to the upgrade in movement and mobility with Natlan characters. I wonder if Xilonen will be the same. Outside of combat, however, the movement and mobility as far as exploration is concerned is quite polished. They're really going to make me pull every single Natlan character thanks to how different their movement is from one another. Hoyo pls. 😭
Dehya or Emile was on Deepwood set ? Which was ?
dehya
Girl can play Thoma with Kinich. Girl happy.
I still have bad luck with the obsidian set roll, so my kinich got this decent cinder set, and i put him in 2 dendro 2 electro/pyro team and call it ''kinich is still BUFFering'' team, able to clear abyss 2nd half in decent time 😂
Guys, can someone explain me how to use sara? She is c6. Which is the optimal rotation in a raiden hyper ?
Go to keqingmains website. They have a detailed guide for all chars in the game. They are one of the biggest tc community from the start of the game.
Kqm guides or genshin team db simulator probably has some rotations
Hey, zajef. Did you hear about thoma? Yes, hes exist, and is very better than xiang on teams with kinich. Just try! Great video :)
Of course the team I mentioned is burgeon
i dont own Emily , is Nahida a fine replacement
No
You'd be better off putting in Kirara or Collei and keeping Nahida for a full dendro reaction focused team. Or just use Thoma or Dehya.
Wasn't there supposed to be a lengthy segment on Emilie with Kinich because you didn't do the post-release?
Playibg kinich felt like Im playing sora from kingdom. I dont know why but it just felt similar
Did not pull Mualani. Pulled Kinich, C1R1 and he is so much fun to play…. He is still a work in progress artifact and talent wise. So far he is doing really well…
How much worse is it to play Dehya/Thoma instead of Xiangling in the Furina Bennet team?
I just don't feel like swapping Xiangling to deepwood every time
You get more burgeon instead of forward vape on Furina. Dehya slow pyro won't be enough to consistently trigger burgeon, thus not proccing Kinich A4.
@@domi8499 His A4 procs on burgeon or burning, and Dehya works great for burning.
@@amandaslough125 we were talking about using Kinich with Furina + Bennett, Dehya doesn't have enough pyro app to keep the burning aura nor trigger burgeon frequently enough to get Kinich's passive
Why not Kinich, Bennett, XL, Nahida?
I suspect a lot more people have Nahida then Emilie.
You would rather use Yelan or Xingqui. Nahida isn’t doing anything in that team. The em buff is useless on Kinich and Nahida isn’t activating quicken so she won’t be doing much damage either. The hydro also gets to vape and adds some burgeons.
@@twigz3214you would get deepwood with nahida but you can also put deepwood on XL instead
Nahia rlly doesn't benefit the team in any meaningful way here
Nahida buffs EM which Kinich doesn't really need, and he already have fast Dendro app, so Nahida is fine but she basically have as much value as Dendro MC in his teams, Furina would be a better choice (damage % buffs, better at multi-wave and she can vape her hits)