These decks are really focused. They're usually split in 2 or 3 themes and lose some synergy. Here, seems they are very focused on top of the reprint value, also the new cards look more interesting than before, I'd rather have 10 new very focused and good cards than 15 somewhat focused with only a couple good cards
which one is better tho? I'm thinking of buying one of them, but I'm a bit undecisive (maybe leaning more towards Party Time, and Draconic Dissent is discarted for me since a friend in my play group already has it, and I didn't fully liked it)
And, to a much lesser extent, Bel Borca. It's auch worse deck but it hilarious using Jester's Cap as a combat trick. Also waiting for a Mardu exile matter commander ti be able to smash thise two decks together.
One thing I'm surprised you didn't look at was the "Alternate Commanders" (Each of these decks has a Mono-Coloured Legendary that can Choose a Background, alongside a Background that covers the deck's other colour) in each deck... In Party Time for example the Alternate Commander (Burakos, Party Leader + Folk Hero) is MUCH stronger than the normal one. As for the other decks, Exit From Exile has Durnan of the Yawning Portal + Passionate Archaeologist, Draconic Dissent has Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer + Clan Crafter, and Mind Flayarrrs has Zellix, Sanity Flayer + Haunted One
Okay, he's a free tip for your Moxfield ad, one feature that it has is that it'll give you the odds of playing something on curve. This is a very useful piece of info if you've got a commander that you absolutely want to play as soon as possible. Archidekt doesn't have that. Contrarywise, Archidekt lets me classify a card as a different type, like I can set my Realmcloaked Giant or Revelark as a Sorcery, instead of a creature. Moxfield doesn't let me do that.
I haven't bought any precons since they stopped selling them for $20, but I think I'm going to get the Exit from Exile deck, it looks *really* awesome. I have a bunch of ideas for stuff to put in it.
The year is 2746. The Nitpicking Nerds have just released their 265,000th video for Mogic: the Gothering Commander content. The fan base goes wild as their heads in Futurama jars present their tier ranking video for the best commanders from Commander Legends 700: epic multiversal war of Emrakul's moon gate
I always love watching your precon power up videos, but this format was excellent. Gives a nice taste of each deck in a tidy 40 minute video. My only suggestion would be mentioning the “alternate” commanders for each deck but this was awesome
You guys are awesome, watch your content everyday after work while working on my commander decks, I need you guys to do an upgrade video on the mind flayarrrs commander precon!
Exit from Exile has to be my favorite of these. I'm thinking of doing a Jund deck with Prosper and Faldorn as secret commanders. There's a lot of cool exile stuff like Suspend, Cascade, Foretell, Impulse Draw, and prolly more I'm missing
@@aryanrejected-2163 The deck comes with Hullbreaker Horror, Everflowing Chalice, Sol Ring, and Consuming Aberration. With Hullbreaker and Sol Ring out. Tap Sol Ring for 2 colorless. Cast Everflowing Chalice for 0. Trigger Hullbreaker to return Sol Ring to the Hand. Use a floating colorless to cast Sol Ring. Trigger Hullbreaker and return Everflowing. Tap Sol Ring, you now have 3 floating. You’ll never 1 colorless each time but it doesn’t matter cause you can just say “I do this to produce infinite mana”. Then you can multi kick Everflowing so you don’t lose that mana. If you have Consuming, Hullbreaker, and Sol Ring out. Each time you cast Everflowing and Sol Ring through the same infinite mana gain loop, Consuming is going to proc forcing your opponents to mill until they hit a land. So you can theoretically force a win or draw. A win by milling everyone out. A draw if you really want to be a jerk and if they have a recycling effect just say you’re going to do it indefinitely, if essentially stalling the game indefinitely.
I think the cruel deck would love the new Urabrask, gives you impluse draw each turn in addition to your normal draw step and turns the first draw step of your opponents into i,pulse draw, hosing counters and combat tricks
These are the first precons in a while that I'm really impressed by. The reprint quality is so high, and the decks themselves all seem really interesting and unique.
Great Video as Always, I really like all your content. I’m trying to decide if I want to buy any of these for some of the new cards. Also I couldn’t help but notice that the guy in the illustration for Curse of Opulence looks like both of you melded together. And all of his generous patrons are also throwing money at him!
Hey thanks! Also the combo that goes my goad deck is Combat Celebrant / Mirage Phalanx. Both good with Kardur on their own and win the game on the spot if I get both.
I picked up exit from exile and Faldorn has shot up to my favorite commander ever to play. I basically have a hand and a half of cards at any time? Love that for me.
I’m not super high on Goad for a deck’s main theme, but the Izzet deck looks packed with fun cards I want to play! Also, I am 100% picking up the Mind Flayarrrs deck because it’s what I have been looking for in a Dimir deck for years!!!!
I already preordered the party deck because I wanted white/black deck but now the horror one seems pretty sick as well. As a proud owner of pr Prosper deck, I feel like I have enough of play from exile to skip the gruul precon. Draconic rage seems underwhelming a lot. And I was VERY hyped for it.
Thanks for another great video Joe + BZ, i went from "meh" on this Legends set in general to HYPE on these precons-SO much value and so many great reprints. Also, this affirms my inclination to buy just the Party time deck (to rip apart for value after a game or two) and the Gruul deck (to actually play and upgrade, fun to have something like Prosper but with access to green, who needs treasures anyway)
Black Market Connections wants a proper home -- decks where you care about loss of life or lifegain decks. In those decks it will shine. Greven, Predator Captain and Willowdusk, Essence Seer for instance, will love the life loss. Dina, Soul Steeper will be gaining you lots of life and will love the ramp, draw and the extra body to sacrifice.
gavin did an unboxing and outcast is in the horror deck already. I'm impressed with the mana base in these, usually that's the first thing i look at to improve but these are serviceable and the reprints are really good.
I have not tested all the Capenna commanders preconstructed and now new commanders are here. I would like to test them all and enjoy it, before upgrades. Regarding upgrades, I upgrade selected precons to CEDH level or close to CEDH. Doing this will get the most potential of the deck and toned it down to casual plus.
None of these are specific decks I wanna play (I’d build the Gruul one if I didn’t play Prosper), but the new direction in design is great. We don’t need so many new commander cards if they make precons and commander sets constantly, there are plenty of cool ones here anyway. Great set of reprints that I’m excited to pick up cheap even without buying a deck. And since we have so many precons these days, they don’t need to cover multiple foci as much as they historically have.
Card value in Party Time is absolutely bonkers. Deep Gnome Terramancer and Black Market Connections alone are probably worth the price of the whole precon. You get skullclamp, mutavault, mother of runes, sevinnes reclamation, grim hireling, maskwood nexus, castle locthwain ontop of that.
30:20 Unlicensed hearse is probably better than crook of condemnation. Just in overall power for selecting things out of graveyards. Less mana, potential threat
I always felt like Umbris was lacking an extra bit of text to really make it work as a horror tribal commander or even a mythic rarity commander card. Glad they fixed that with the new horror commander.
Firkraag 2nd ability of growing and drawing triggers off your own creatures that have to attack and do damage so i think a fun subtheme would be juggernauts. The deck already has an artifact subtheme and i think if you want dragon tribal miiryam is way better so you stick Firkraag in that 99.
not gonna lie im happy there is more goad being added since im working towards getting a lynde cheerful tormenter and goad is my subtheme outside of curses and enchantments
I think Omen Machine is a great card for the Exit from Exile deck. I think the only card in the deck that says "Draw cards" is Return of the Wildspeaker, so this would be super one-sided.
In my play group goad is one of the best mechanics to get the game moving. Often we end up just playing battle ship commander and its just build, board wipe, build and wait for someone to win some how. Crazy as it sound sometimes we all scoop after only one person dies if the games long and boaring.
black market connections is an amazing card, its going to be expensive too. If you had to pick only 1 i would go party time. If you can pick 2 decks get 2 party time lol
draconic decent is ment to get people to buy the deck for firkraag to put him in dragon tribal decks (ie a miirym the sentinal deck (parallel lives for non token dragons but wait the dragon has green so you can run parrallel lives to double the dragon tokens mmmmm fun)
Still agree that the dragon deck is weaker, but the commander being a dragon means (provided you untap with him) you can get one of those goad triggers each turn. Still, there should be more dragons in there...
I actually like the firkraag goad deck. Yea it needs a ton of work but theres a lot of good cards that could be in this deck and recent sets had loads and loads of dragons. Dragons used to be expensive but theres lots of good cheap $$$ dragon cards now.
Nerds, circle back in a few months on Black Market Connections...I think it will over preform. I am also low on Phyrexian arena, this card is BETTER, b/c you get the choice. Missing drops? take the treasure. Need gas? ok 2 life draw a card need a creatures [with EVERY creature type]? Take the 3/2. I like that it triggers on main b/c it's after draw step and now i have more information to make my choice. Tribal/aristocrats? cool, get a relevant creature, often even jus the chump block will be worth more than 3 life. Abundance is good in the right green deck, even Tectonic Reformation isn't bad to help flooding/cycle if you're missing L drops. I think this card will save your tempo in games you might have otherwise been out of the running on, and give you more gas in games where you need to run away with it. I think this card is like the dark knight, it will be whatever your city needs it to be.
The sheer amount of content you guys produce is crazy. I can scroll through that huge list of shorts and be entertained for hours. Mad props.
Thank you!! Yeah our backlog is HUGE 😂
These decks are really focused. They're usually split in 2 or 3 themes and lose some synergy. Here, seems they are very focused on top of the reprint value, also the new cards look more interesting than before, I'd rather have 10 new very focused and good cards than 15 somewhat focused with only a couple good cards
Agreed the decks really do focus on a theme
makes it so much better
I like these precons a lot
I think NN complained enough that WOTC took notice LOL.
which one is better tho?
I'm thinking of buying one of them, but I'm a bit undecisive (maybe leaning more towards Party Time, and Draconic Dissent is discarted for me since a friend in my play group already has it, and I didn't fully liked it)
Wizards actually packed these with some pretty solid reprints. Always happy to see cards like skullclamp and nature’s lore get more printings
Wait clamp got a reprint? Nice!
Really love this format of reviewing all decks with best reprints, best new cards, and budget/non-budget adds. Good job guys
This format is perfect. I learned exactly what I wanted to learn about these decks in 40 minutes. I can rave enough about this video. Thank you!!!
That’s good to hear, thank you!!
The amount of prosper tome bound support in this is crazy
Yeah there is a lot!
As if they needed more support to prosper ;p
And, to a much lesser extent, Bel Borca. It's auch worse deck but it hilarious using Jester's Cap as a combat trick. Also waiting for a Mardu exile matter commander ti be able to smash thise two decks together.
Prosper gets insane support in every damn set. It's freaking nuts
I wasn't all that hyped about any of these but the Dimir one. Now I'm a little hyped over the Gruul deck as well. Thanks!
One thing I'm surprised you didn't look at was the "Alternate Commanders" (Each of these decks has a Mono-Coloured Legendary that can Choose a Background, alongside a Background that covers the deck's other colour) in each deck...
In Party Time for example the Alternate Commander (Burakos, Party Leader + Folk Hero) is MUCH stronger than the normal one.
As for the other decks, Exit From Exile has Durnan of the Yawning Portal + Passionate Archaeologist, Draconic Dissent has Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer + Clan Crafter, and Mind Flayarrrs has Zellix, Sanity Flayer + Haunted One
Very excited about that being in as well.
Okay, he's a free tip for your Moxfield ad, one feature that it has is that it'll give you the odds of playing something on curve. This is a very useful piece of info if you've got a commander that you absolutely want to play as soon as possible. Archidekt doesn't have that.
Contrarywise, Archidekt lets me classify a card as a different type, like I can set my Realmcloaked Giant or Revelark as a Sorcery, instead of a creature. Moxfield doesn't let me do that.
I haven't bought any precons since they stopped selling them for $20, but I think I'm going to get the Exit from Exile deck, it looks *really* awesome. I have a bunch of ideas for stuff to put in it.
It’s a very fun deck I recommend it
@@evanbomb5635 Yeah, I got it and did a complete rebuild before it even arrived. Deck is SICK, it's my brother's new favorite deck.
The year is 2746. The Nitpicking Nerds have just released their 265,000th video for Mogic: the Gothering Commander content. The fan base goes wild as their heads in Futurama jars present their tier ranking video for the best commanders from Commander Legends 700: epic multiversal war of Emrakul's moon gate
Seems like a pretty good world
Please tell me you are going to make separate upgrade videos for all the precons. :D The Exit from Exile one is just brutal, I love it.
I always love watching your precon power up videos, but this format was excellent. Gives a nice taste of each deck in a tidy 40 minute video. My only suggestion would be mentioning the “alternate” commanders for each deck but this was awesome
You guys are awesome, watch your content everyday after work while working on my commander decks, I need you guys to do an upgrade video on the mind flayarrrs commander precon!
Great video! Would love to see more of this type of content for future commander sets 😊
Thanks nerds for the tips. Appreciate going into the backlog. I joined a precon league and got Exit from Exile. Looking forward to playing it.
Exit from Exile has to be my favorite of these. I'm thinking of doing a Jund deck with Prosper and Faldorn as secret commanders. There's a lot of cool exile stuff like Suspend, Cascade, Foretell, Impulse Draw, and prolly more I'm missing
You guys are awesome thank you for being so excited and entertaining
One thing yall forgot to mention is Mind Flaaayrs includes an two infinite combos. One is a mana and the other is a mill.
How ???
@@aryanrejected-2163 The deck comes with Hullbreaker Horror, Everflowing Chalice, Sol Ring, and Consuming Aberration.
With Hullbreaker and Sol Ring out. Tap Sol Ring for 2 colorless. Cast Everflowing Chalice for 0. Trigger Hullbreaker to return Sol Ring to the Hand. Use a floating colorless to cast Sol Ring. Trigger Hullbreaker and return Everflowing. Tap Sol Ring, you now have 3 floating. You’ll never 1 colorless each time but it doesn’t matter cause you can just say “I do this to produce infinite mana”. Then you can multi kick Everflowing so you don’t lose that mana.
If you have Consuming, Hullbreaker, and Sol Ring out. Each time you cast Everflowing and Sol Ring through the same infinite mana gain loop, Consuming is going to proc forcing your opponents to mill until they hit a land. So you can theoretically force a win or draw. A win by milling everyone out. A draw if you really want to be a jerk and if they have a recycling effect just say you’re going to do it indefinitely, if essentially stalling the game indefinitely.
@@4n6redrum dam, you are right. Thanks for clarifying. Its a good loop tbh
I think the cruel deck would love the new Urabrask, gives you impluse draw each turn in addition to your normal draw step and turns the first draw step of your opponents into i,pulse draw, hosing counters and combat tricks
Precons more impressive than the set itself imo.
Lol same as last precon
ttrue
These are the first precons in a while that I'm really impressed by. The reprint quality is so high, and the decks themselves all seem really interesting and unique.
Great Video as Always, I really like all your content. I’m trying to decide if I want to buy any of these for some of the new cards. Also I couldn’t help but notice that the guy in the illustration for Curse of Opulence looks like both of you melded together. And all of his generous patrons are also throwing money at him!
Kind of wished you guys talked about the back up Commander/Backgrounds
Now that had PACE. Great video. Great format!
Glad you guys are doing content like this. Hopefully for all future Commander product releases as well. Keep it up.
Man the mindflayer deck is so sick, I took apart my mill zombies deck to make a mill horror instead 😆 leaving the zombies just a hoarding deck lol
Hey thanks!
Also the combo that goes my goad deck is Combat Celebrant / Mirage Phalanx. Both good with Kardur on their own and win the game on the spot if I get both.
Very true! A solid combo
Super video and great reviews!
Can’t believe you guys are growing so much. Awesome to see! Been watching since the disclaimer guy was a thing…
Wow an OG fan! ❤️
28:10 Obliterator in the Budget upgrades? Riiighhhhhhtttt! :)
It's really budget to Elon Musk.
I picked up exit from exile and Faldorn has shot up to my favorite commander ever to play. I basically have a hand and a half of cards at any time? Love that for me.
The Gruul deck is so freaking cool!
I’m not super high on Goad for a deck’s main theme, but the Izzet deck looks packed with fun cards I want to play! Also, I am 100% picking up the Mind Flayarrrs deck because it’s what I have been looking for in a Dimir deck for years!!!!
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I already preordered the party deck because I wanted white/black deck but now the horror one seems pretty sick as well. As a proud owner of pr
Prosper deck, I feel like I have enough of play from exile to skip the gruul precon. Draconic rage seems underwhelming a lot. And I was VERY hyped for it.
Moxfield guess of the day 17:55
Just got the mindflayer deck soooo excited I have a upgrades in mind
Great format
Thank you!
Thanks for another great video Joe + BZ, i went from "meh" on this Legends set in general to HYPE on these precons-SO much value and so many great reprints. Also, this affirms my inclination to buy just the Party time deck (to rip apart for value after a game or two) and the Gruul deck (to actually play and upgrade, fun to have something like Prosper but with access to green, who needs treasures anyway)
Lord Jierdan Firkraag, the dragon in BG2 pronounces his name as "Fire-Crag", things we learn :)
Black Market Connections wants a proper home -- decks where you care about loss of life or lifegain decks. In those decks it will shine. Greven, Predator Captain and Willowdusk, Essence Seer for instance, will love the life loss. Dina, Soul Steeper will be gaining you lots of life and will love the ramp, draw and the extra body to sacrifice.
Love the Dimir deck! What do you think about the alternative commanders like Zellix + Haunted one?
Can't wait for some of these!!
Hunted Horror spiked during Midnight Hunt with it showing up in a lot of Toxrill builds.
*opponent plays death kiss *
me looking at my Gishath, I will be able to play next turn: oh hell yeah
Thanks guys. You do good
Appreciate it!
gavin did an unboxing and outcast is in the horror deck already. I'm impressed with the mana base in these, usually that's the first thing i look at to improve but these are serviceable and the reprints are really good.
I have not tested all the Capenna commanders preconstructed and now new commanders are here. I would like to test them all and enjoy it, before upgrades. Regarding upgrades, I upgrade selected precons to CEDH level or close to CEDH. Doing this will get the most potential of the deck and toned it down to casual plus.
It’s finally the day… today their happy birthday actually applied to me! What a day!
✨magical✨
oh how wrong they are about black market connections....
None of these are specific decks I wanna play (I’d build the Gruul one if I didn’t play Prosper), but the new direction in design is great. We don’t need so many new commander cards if they make precons and commander sets constantly, there are plenty of cool ones here anyway. Great set of reprints that I’m excited to pick up cheap even without buying a deck. And since we have so many precons these days, they don’t need to cover multiple foci as much as they historically have.
Card value in Party Time is absolutely bonkers. Deep Gnome Terramancer and Black Market Connections alone are probably worth the price of the whole precon. You get skullclamp, mutavault, mother of runes, sevinnes reclamation, grim hireling, maskwood nexus, castle locthwain ontop of that.
30:20 Unlicensed hearse is probably better than crook of condemnation. Just in overall power for selecting things out of graveyards. Less mana, potential threat
I always felt like Umbris was lacking an extra bit of text to really make it work as a horror tribal commander or even a mythic rarity commander card. Glad they fixed that with the new horror commander.
same, got him from a pack and loved the idea of a horror tribal commander but it just didnt quite feel strong enough
The D&D dungeon master in me winced when you said Nalfeshnee(nail-fesh-nay). 😂 no hate, think you both are awesome! Love the content!
I feel like people are more excited for the precons than the rest of the set. I think these precons are great though with new cards and reprints.
100 percent. The precons bring strong new prints AND the reprint value we expected in the main set.
Firkraag 2nd ability of growing and drawing triggers off your own creatures that have to attack and do damage so i think a fun subtheme would be juggernauts. The deck already has an artifact subtheme and i think if you want dragon tribal miiryam is way better so you stick Firkraag in that 99.
Yall should do your favorite new cards/commanders to wrap it up at the end :)
I'm shocked nobody mentioned bruvac for the mill deck
8:40 13:00 17:09 21:23 25:50 30:43 35:00
I recommend my favorite card for the horrors deck , Incarnation Technique .
so...does that mean no individual precon powerup videos?
Is this video replacing the precon power ups?
- Firkraag = Izzet Korvold? Going right into my Ur Dragon deck.
- Out of the legendaries I have seen so far Raggadragga seems like super fun to me ;p
Phyrexian Obliterator is not budget, but still a good addition.
21:40 its WHAT tribal, man wizards is really adding alot of new creature types :P
not gonna lie im happy there is more goad being added since im working towards getting a lynde cheerful tormenter and goad is my subtheme outside of curses and enchantments
First time i saw Curse of Opulence, it was in my C17, so before treasure even exists, pre-treasure era
Imagine being the new MtG player who picks up the green red deck and then having to face a seasoned player with blue black mill.
New precons are out: 🤩
They're dual color decks: 🚪🚶🏾
Will say for Delayed Blast Fireball, its name is from a D&D spell
Apex Devastator reads like square dance instructions.
This is the first commander deck set where I've bought the whole set. These decks are fun, good value and they work well right out of the box.
I think Omen Machine is a great card for the Exit from Exile deck. I think the only card in the deck that says "Draw cards" is Return of the Wildspeaker, so this would be super one-sided.
The curse is came out in 2017 Commander just before Treasures appeared in ixalan
Did anyone count how often Cherries says "really, REALLY good!"
Ha. Mind Flayaaars has an infinite mana combo in it with Hullbreaker, sol ring and everflowing chalice.
Isn’t hullbreaker banned?
With Consuming Aberration (also in the deck), it can mill all opponents out
Slumbering Dragon and Fumiko the Low Blood play well together for goad.
The horror deck is awesome. Though I have many blue black decks lol. A rogues deck and a ninja deck to name a few
In the gruul deck the new Urabrask is actually pretty good for the deck as well
I think you missed the (almost) infinite Combo with niv mizzet, you can draw your whole Deck with your Commander Out.
Every set prosper gets significantly better
He is a great commander
For Black market connection, the reason its so much better than Phyrexian arena is it triggers on the turn you play it, replacing itself right away
It triggers on precombat main phase so you won’t get anything the turn you play it sadly
I believe hunted horror spiked recently when toxrill got printed!
Will these decks be getting a precon power up video or is that series over with?
In my play group goad is one of the best mechanics to get the game moving. Often we end up just playing battle ship commander and its just build, board wipe, build and wait for someone to win some how. Crazy as it sound sometimes we all scoop after only one person dies if the games long and boaring.
Fir-KRAAG (notice and please pronounce that second "R" 🙏)
They mispronounce like every 5th card they talk about XD
I'm kinda stoked for Uchuulon, to me it looks like a black scute swarm 🤣🤣
I've got party time for around 45 $, is that good price?
black market connections is an amazing card, its going to be expensive too. If you had to pick only 1 i would go party time. If you can pick 2 decks get 2 party time lol
draconic decent is ment to get people to buy the deck for firkraag to put him in dragon tribal decks (ie a miirym the sentinal deck (parallel lives for non token dragons but wait the dragon has green so you can run parrallel lives to double the dragon tokens mmmmm fun)
Still agree that the dragon deck is weaker, but the commander being a dragon means (provided you untap with him) you can get one of those goad triggers each turn. Still, there should be more dragons in there...
hunted horror works with torpor orb and hushbringer. also tutorable with shred memory
All true!
Got 2 party time for the value😄
I actually like the firkraag goad deck. Yea it needs a ton of work but theres a lot of good cards that could be in this deck and recent sets had loads and loads of dragons. Dragons used to be expensive but theres lots of good cheap $$$ dragon cards now.
No individual budget upgrades for these?
I love you guys
Delayed Blast Fireball is the actual name of the D&D spell
Nerds, circle back in a few months on Black Market Connections...I think it will over preform. I am also low on Phyrexian arena, this card is BETTER, b/c you get the choice. Missing drops? take the treasure. Need gas? ok 2 life draw a card need a creatures [with EVERY creature type]? Take the 3/2. I like that it triggers on main b/c it's after draw step and now i have more information to make my choice. Tribal/aristocrats? cool, get a relevant creature, often even jus the chump block will be worth more than 3 life. Abundance is good in the right green deck, even Tectonic Reformation isn't bad to help flooding/cycle if you're missing L drops. I think this card will save your tempo in games you might have otherwise been out of the running on, and give you more gas in games where you need to run away with it. I think this card is like the dark knight, it will be whatever your city needs it to be.