Brave Browser, Based or Botnet?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2020
- Another review of the brave browser now that the dust has settled.
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"Chrome is spyware"
Hmm yes the floor here is made out of floor.
Genius joke
that's actually a good joke, makes you wonder why Google named it chrome...
@@catchyname4353 becau s It shiny like chromh
@@julian-zg3js duh
Waterfox is the one true Browser thats both open source and trustworthy. But I use Opera for watching online TV.
"Based or Botnet?" is my favorite Internet Gameshow!
Ë?
Yes! Let's build a botnet AI driven worm!
@@e99g Й
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PERSONALLY CONGRATULATE MENTAL OUTLAW. ONE OF HIS VIDEOS WAS CORRECT AND ALMOST ON POINT AND CAN BE CONFIRMED. I AM TALKING ABOUT THE BRAVE BROWSER.....BASICALLY HE SAID NO DONT USE IT......................WELL I CAN FINALLY PUBLICLY TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT BRAVE BROWSER HAS BEEN LEAKING ONION ADDRESSES IN THE DNS TRAFFIC........HOW LONG FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF......BUT AGAIN WHAT DOES THIS TELL US? HOW MANY OF YOU ACTUALLY CAN CONFIRM THAT YOUR SHIT IS SAFE, PROB 99.9 BECAUSE YOU WATCH TH-cam VIDEOS INSTEAD OF FIGURING SHIT OUT ON YOUR OWN.
@@nikolas8741 Skynet: I am skynet! -T5000. The 5000 was the one in genesis and who was the hologram kid? Is he the T-5000 or a higher model?
There's an effort in society to make people lazy and to not have any agency over their own life, and just go with whatever the default options are. Just go with the flow. Just go with whatever the agenda is, even though it's the worst thing for you. - Mental Outlaw
Going with the flow as in go down the toilet drain with the rubbish.
It is completely true. Tech, meat and dairy industry, sugar...
It's almost like the people are alienated from reality.
The logic here is bad, though. People are lazy. The effort is to take advantage of this trait. Much of the time is pushes garbage onto people sure. But don't think in absolutes, and get your logic straight.
@@shineymcshine Not far off, although the tendency is always worsened by making laziness EASY. Back in the good ol' days, it was considerably harder, and those who thought of themselves as such probably wouldn't have been it to the same degree. And of course, to make a man do something difficult (to gain agency IE) requires he be willing to deal with something difficult. Thus, (excessive, as we easily see) convenience is an evil against self-development. Want people to not be lazy? Don't let them in the first place.
"This could server as a redpill for your friends"
friends are bloat collecting and sharing your private data
Ah, yes, friends are the ultimate data collection tool used by big tech. First they convert them to their side, then indirectly extract information like from spies who don't know they're spies.
@@64_Tesseract Facebook's shadow profiles turns this joke into reality.
The feds already have all of the information they want from you.
I never get why people are so adamant on keeping their data private when they can get Ruby Ridged at any time they want, they'll make up some bullshit justification to kill you.
@@cooldud7071 in line with the " I don't have anything to hide so let them harvest my data" argument. Assuming they already have all your info therefore ill make my computer usage a open book isn't the best way to go about it. Even if you truly believe that don't you want them to work for it? Make the glowies jump through hoops at least.
your pfp is a concern
Yeah, this is a great summary.
Brave is the best 'normie' browser.
As for people not caring that Chrome is spyware, I've heard responses such as:"Yeah, but it's normal, everyone does that" said so nonchalantly, that it made me scared for our future, lol
Ask them if they're willing to send you the details of their browsing g history, social media accounts with passwords& allow you to go through them& publish a report to China
& show them the horror of the social credit system
Ok downloading spyware shouldn’t be normal…. Everyone freaks out when they accidentally download spy ware on a strange website, so why is it ok for a big Business to do it?
I bet it’s just cause everyone has the spyware they also should have it…
Just ask these people for their bank info
Everyone's doing it
Stock up on canned goods.
I had an exchange with my friend about those services where you send your saliva to get the results of your ancestry. Cool concept but when you get down to it, were those information be sold to any insurance company, your chance of getting insured for things like cancer or any hereditary disease is basically reduced to 0. Anyway, upon being presented with this revelation, she just straight up doesn't care and nonchalantly said the most edgiest thing "I don't care I'm gonna die anyway" or something along those lines.
Brave is pretty much the perfect entry point for people that start to become more wary of their privacy.
Pretending that someone who used chrome all their life is going to switch out of nowhere to Tor and host their own instance is ludicrous, change comes over time.
All those Brave users are people that probably don’t use chrome anymore,
In a couple of years they may even switch to Linux as they get more accustomed to trying out new technologies, all in all, it’s a good thing.
The process you speak of is mine exactly. Really only using Brave, and when I move from my laptop to a desktop, it's going to be Linux. I don't feel comfortable getting another computer, otherwise.
I literally switched from chrome to tor, with no intermediary in between. Instantly.
@@overlord2066 Tor is not a good browser for daily browsing, it's just for you to serf the web anonymously.
@@lagboat true
Just started this journey haha
Orange browser - bad.
So Firefox is crap
@Maxblau Brave nightly is happy now
le shill lion
red browser was good....
Firefox is too hard to use and this comes from someone who uses it all the time, not because of privacy but because suspend is borked in Chromium browsers with Nvidia graphics cards.
github.com/brave/brave-browser/issues/11678
Librewolf might be worth checking out if you're too lazy to harden Firefox yourself.
Damn! Thanks for the tip! :)
yes . librewolf has been very excellent in my opinion. but i always find myself ending up on default firefox again *shrugs* oh well XD
But hardening Firefox takes like 15 minutes tops, and most of it is just reading the options in FFprofile? Or is hardening Firefox something different than what I think?
@@kidkangaroo5213 it can get really involved. Especially if you use profiles for things like i2p. Having a simple, preconfigured browser with custom branding is pretty cool.
@@webbonyoutube fair enough
I like Brave because it has a built in ad blocker and loads sites faster for my 100Kb internet oh and its lighter on ram
@勇樹 yes its stil chromiuom based so uses alot of ram but still lot less than chrome
I am using brave for daily use, I agree with you.
The ad blocker on brave is actually pretty good
I’m pretty sure it’s adblocker blocks youtube ads but i’m not 100% sure because I forget if I ever get adds
@@aramalatrash6147 That's because chromium doesn't load all the additional spyware packages chrome does...
Some sites won't work with "hardened" browser settings and it can be pain in the ass to switch or white list them, In Brave you can change the shield setting from icon in the address bar.
In Firefox you have containers, you can use them with customized ones to use the sites that refuse to work!
Started using Brave recently and I've noticed that the performance of my PC has drastically improved compared to my time using Chrome. Those spyware must be using a lot of memory.
It's sad to me that people use the fact that they don't have total privacy online to justify making no effort at all
Also of note, Brave's ad program is turned OFF by default. The user has to opt in to even see the ads. And the "Brave Rewards" box on the right of new tabs can be disabled at the flip of a switch, never to bother you again.
These thumbnails keep getting better.
Could you make a video on "hardening" firefox now?
follow this guide privacytools.io/browsers/#about_config . you could follow some stuff on arch wiki to increase performance as well :)
He has one somewhere on the channel
It's called Tor.
two good videos by him:
"The First Site to Visit After Installing Firefox"
"Maximize Your Browsers Privacy and Security With Zero Addons"
idk lmao i use brave only when firefox gets into a crash cycle
I really wish brave changed its wallet system. Wouldn't it be more privacy respecting if instead of signing in to Brave Creators and Uphold to be able to receive donations, you place a wallet.txt file into your servers directory and when a viewer retrieves the website, the wallet file gets sent back and every content creator can get donations without having to sign in to fucking Uphold.
The good think is it is open source, you can just make your own if you don't like it. That what happen to firefox when they went woke and that how waterfox was born.
@@protennis365 pretty sure waterfox was born because Firefox didn't want to make a full 64 bit browser back in the day
@@My_Old_YT_Account true, but Firefox fire there creator that could have done 64 bit done today because they went woke.
@@protennis365 pretty sure Firefox is fully 64 bit today (at least when you download it as 64 bit)
@@My_Old_YT_Account They are still a few generation behind in feature and going broke.
As someone looking to ween themselves off the botnet, what's the consensus on brave vs epic?
"Digital voodoo doll of you" great analogy, gonna steal that one
I use Netscape on my 386 box.
The real deal right here folks.
security = infinity (NaN)
I would dare to argue that Brave is better than Firefox. Brave has an advantage since built in privacy/security features don't have the limitations that add-ons or extensions do. Plus also Brave does not transamit telemetry or phone home, whereas Firefox does. In order to stop it a user has to go into the browser and change the configuration. Then also consider Brave's random fingerprint protection which helps the browser blend in with others as opposed to FIrefox and others that do not.
I'd like to start with: "random fingerprint protection" "blend with others". These two do not combine. Instead, you should have said "random fingerprint protection that confuses fingerprint checkers, as opposed to Firefox and others that don't have that protection". Plus, Firefox has an even more advanced version of that (From old versions of Tor I believe), but is not completely ready to be mainstream + there's Arkenfox that blows everything you said out of the water...
@@user-bi1vv3vq3i that's technically right, but the point still stands. I myself appreciate privacy, but privacy is not the end-all-be-all for most people, there's a limit to how much inconvenience I'll tolerate. Brave is perfect for me, I have barely tinkered with it beyond custom filtering to remove that annyoing "enhanced bitrate" button from the youtube quality menu, yet pretty much out of the box I have randomized fingerprints, a synced password manager, youtube with mobile adblock and control over how strict I block scripts and other things. I'll use Tor / TAILS for things requiring more privacy or the closest I can get to sandboxing, but Brave is a great and comfortable "default".
"It just works" shouldn't be underestimated, yes I and most people are logged in to some services, but the fact that such an accessible browser is that good at anonymization without further tweaking should be seen as a major win for general privacy, maybe companies will eventually stop embedding every tracker under the sun if one day most people are daily driving some browser that makes those all but useless
I'm dumping Firefox after their goofy blog post calling for MORE than deplatforming. Their post called for a bunch of spooky shit, but did not discuss what their endgame was, which is even spookier. So much for "net neutrality is important!" They fucking played themselves.
Tis what happens when your main financial backer is google themselves. He made a video about sunless surf which looks to have potential. If youre fine with old school then links2 is a pretty cool concept (no javascript tho) Other than that there really isnt much choice as literally almost all other browsers are built with chromium framework.
2h ago youtube recommend your one vedio i saw i loved it and start watching your other vedio and hey you just put new one which I wanted , keep it up btw i love your content
*video
@@everyhandletaken thanks bro
Hardened Firefox guide?
You can't remove brave's bloatware from their browser. I belive the issue on github is still open and it was created years ago. And I'm not gonna dig in the code to make a fork to get just a normal usable browser
They actually took down a fork that removed the bloatware, i think it was called "Braver"
@@AntiWeebPenguin They didn't take it down they sent them a trademark notice because they felt the names were too similar. The fork you're talking about is now called Bold Browser
I use Brave for more than a Year now and it done me good,sad thing there is no sync thru devices but I guess that's good for security. It is best Browser for Windows.
Even though Blink is a great web engine, and so is the engine it's based on, Webkit, there are a couple of others still and they should never be abandoned. Firefox uses its own engine, and another, smaller one (can't remember the name) makes their own as well. But the thing with Firefox is that even if Mozilla goes under, the people who develop browsers based on it won't go away, and can continue to develop the engine. If Firefox does, IceCat won't.
Could you make a video about how to harden Firefox?
adblock on model doesnt work, i still get ads on my offbrand i watch :\ ads before a offbrand video plays. WTH
Would you consider doing a video on what your version of a Hardened Firefox setup would look like? I'd be interested to see.
It's neat that Brave has got Tor incorporated as well.
The affiliate program is dead? Luke Smith is going to be even more mad at le shill lion
How difficult is it to get a modified (like "Waterfox" or whatever) for Firefox to transfer settings, plugins, etc?
Because I've always used Firefox but it annoys the hell out of me now.
"Digital voodoo doll". Brilliant metaphor for ad profiles, gonna steal that lol
Thumbnail game keeps getting better & better
Can I have best of both worlds?
Hardened firefox with brave fingerprinting protection?
If brave is opensource, why doesn't firefox just copy the fingerprinting protection?
“Virtual voodoo doll”
I too saw the Social Dilemma.
Awesome vid as always. Can you please take a look at Slackware Linux and/or make a comparison between it and Gentoo ? How about a "Why use Gentoo" explenation vid ?
Either you want to download a distro that "jus werks"
Or you build a that distro and have every break if you do it wrong
Pretty much every distro except BSD, Gentoo and arch work right out of the box
Thanks for the tips!
I just used Chromium with a little bit of extra configuration, is hardened chromium better? Or is my approach enough?
The fact that I just had a brave software ad right when I clicked on this video.
I use firefox on my pc and brave on my phone.
I think the biggest selling point for brave in regards to normies would be the phone app, since it has adblock and looks and works exactly like chrome. You sell it as just that, and once you get them to install it you then tell them about the bonus of privacy they just got with absolutely no effort on their part.
What was the word you used before Firefox in the last 5 seconds? Thanks for your help making the switch
Ungoogled Chromium 😍
What do you think about Rob Braxman's opinion on fingerprinting? I mean you stated in this video that regarding privacy a hardened firefox is the best choice, but the extensions and settings make it easier to fingerprint my browser... Am i missing something here?
Why would anyone need fingerprinting on clear net??
Use multiple browsers
The problem with Firefox and the main reason I migrated from it is just slow browsing of internet. When I came to brave it did feel a bit snappy. That doesn't mean Firefox is bad but rather websites won't try the effort to be fully compatible with non-chromium based browsers.
As a web dev I can attest to that. Most of my customers don't want to spend money on optimizing for Firefox since overwhelming majority of web traffic is from chromium based browsers.
I use Firefox because I actually like it, haven't heard of privacy or anything when I decided to use it. I just like Firefox, i keep brave as a backup in case something just don't work but to be honest I'm happy with my Firefox 😁
As web developer i really try to make my webs works on every system, except safari, that shit sucks... . BUT, you cant expect that everybody does the same, mostly because furefox user base is not enough to notice those little things so most just care about how things looks good on chrome (and that means every other chromium based browser) and look only important things on other browsers.
@@xxdarkzon3xx I share your hatred towards Safari. Man, I swear Safari is Internet Explorer of today.
@@xxdarkzon3xx To be honest that seems fine to me, i use firefox and i don't care. If shit goes wrong i have Brave installed.
I mostly use Brave because adblocker works out of the box. I got tired of TH-cam interrupting the videos I watch. Play the adds at the beginning or the end but not the middle of a video. This isn't television. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't be depriving websites some revenue.
But is brave actually good for privacy? I Installed Brave on my phone, changed the settings to be more privavy focussed and use a VPN. Is Brave really not that good at privacy? Im a newbie so I dont know much about it.
Was looking forwards to this video since you've dunked on the browser before. When it comes to normie browsers, I never preferred Brave ™️ because it might be more privacy-respecting than other browsers, but just because of what Mozilla ™️ did to Brendan Eich desu.
Well, you can easily fork Mozilla
Plus, there's the SUCKLESS browser, QuteBrowser& Falkon browser
GNU IceCat, LibreWolf& WaterFox
@Dio Titus hell nah, I use LibreWolf, Firefox& maybe Falkon browser
tmtmtmtm
A thing popped up in my mind - Router firmware. Stuff like OpenWRT, DD-WRT, and the like... I would be interested in your opinion on these.
Incidentally, I'm considering trying to figure out if my cable modem has any kind of low level access, like a TTL serial port... by taking it apart (it's a SB6183, and i bought it outright, so the cable company can't tell me what to do, and I don't owe them SHIT for the modem!)
Any update sir?
I use brave on my desktop , laptop and android phone
I was using chrome in all 3 before the switch
Im a lot happier without the adds and how fast everything loads
Yeah its alot better
What an excellent thumbnail
the interesting thing about the tracking in brave is that it is there and it's so in your face you don't even realize what it is. BAT
So? At least i´m being rewarded.
Also i can turn it off all ads on brave (including the ones from the brave network and the externals with the shield)
So, what you will do with my "data" if i don´t watch your ads?
@@andrius799 sure. what's that got to do with my point?
i agree that bat is "more transparent" and it actually pays you back for giving your information.
my problem is that people don't understand what's going on. BAT is a fully trackable privately held token. they are created attached to users, they are given based on attention to sites you visit. they are tracking you. PERIOD. you can opt out. you can choose not to use BAT (at all). this is a better situation than most tracking sure. but to say "brave protects you from tracking" or "brave doesn't track you" is not true. that's my whole point.
if i had to extend my point further - brave may be the best "fully featured browser" we have in terms of privacy. but if the best surgeon is still killing 80% of his patients why am i the bad guy for calling it out? the difference between firefox and brave is basically nothing in terms of privacy.
but i can't use youtube on mothra.
@@JaeleNistra yer data is already being used my google, least you get paid for it bro
I switch from chrome to brave on my desktop and phone, on Chrome my phone battery (which is a Samsung Z Fold 2) would go from 100% at 5AM to 5% at 6PM and that is from normal use (couple browser tabs, youtube at 480p, and screen brightness at 30-40%) once installed brave and disabled Chrome I now went from 5% to 40-45% makes you wonder how many background processes (aka trackers) were going on.
yea i think ill switch too but i think it will be kinda hard for me to adjust from chrome to brave on mobile i got so used to chrome
What about some of those weirder small web browsers like Otter and Falkon. Are those any better privacy wise?
So it's possibly the safest Chromium-based browser that just werks?
Likewise can you make a video about Icecat and making it good? I used it a while ago but it was frustrating to use.
Brave's token system doesn't even work
A friend has tried to collect the earnings and it straight up wiped his tokens before he had the chance despite he having the option to auto give to sites off, as for me, i don't even get the option to pair a wallet/card with it, it's simply missing and pressing the collect button just causes the thing to load infinitely
I still like it for what it does and i just turn off that option altogheter since there must be like 5 sites that support the support thing anyway
What about Pale Moon? Is that good too? I tried to love Brave, but a few weeks after using it my laptop has gotten really slow afterwards. Mostly because of my poor specs.
The one friend I have who uses pale moon has complained about the ad block options being out of date and ineffective even against youtube of all things due to it forking so far off from firefox that it causes that problem.
Didn't they port Pale Moon to the PSP? lmao
lol. it don't matter if they are open sourced or not, they could roll out binaries that are built by compiling they're own second, closed sourced, repository code. As most people don't compile their own binaries, "open-source" does not really mean anything anymore. Unless you compile your own binaries!
Would you categorize basic telemetry (no personal data, not used for profit) as spyware?
At that point it's just bloatware
brave is pretty based
i think
Google: Lets tap this Guy with a drum profile pic
My internet history when i'm not a Snowden-wannabe: haha Wheatley Crab!
Me browsing on Tails with a VPN behind another VPN behind 12 proxies while using i2p and HTTPS on a System76 Laptop: Deep-Fried Water
Taiko?
@@opayke980 don from taiko no tatsujin
For a normie, Brave is a very decent middle point in using more privacy respecting software. It's private while being as easy to install and use as chrome itself
I got a brave ad at the start nice
Can you make video about antidetect browsers ? Compare their security/privacy against hardened firefox or browsers like brave.
I hate to say this, but my mom doesn't know that google chrome is spyware. I wish my whole family would just switch to brave.
Switch it for them
Tell your whole family so they install Brave, move all the data to Brave and uninstall Chrome.
I heard FF wants to remove users.js?
Great Lion of Zion!
Love the thumbnail! 😂
A thumbnail honoring Terry, I can appreciate that
If TH-camrs shill for something, it's a botnet. Most likely.
I notice when I start HTOP that the Brave browser use is always in the red. All other browsers stay in the blue.
Thoughts on Fennec from F-Droid?
Braves offices are located in the same building as one of the IBM's many offices, make what you will of that, definitely spooky though.
7:41 (yes I am a bit of a pc nerd) but how is firefox not user friendly?
@Mr VT ah, thanks
Based or botnet? Why not both?
Based and botnet-pilled.
>linux
>atheist
nice cognitive dissonance bro
@@apestogetherstrong341 >not knowing Terry Davis references
>not going beyond into meta-meme territory evading culture references
so, a based botnet
That's why I block crypto mining on the router level.
okay but i have a voyeurism kink, i like being spied on. which browser would you recommend?
either chrome or edge will do great
creator of brave also got cancelled for being based
another reason to use brave
wat
Brendan Eich the red-pilled lad.
I love the alliteration
What do you guys think about Comodo?
I like the privacy nut community that this video very clearly belongs to. This is my first privacy nut video.
greatest thumbnail of all time
Honestly, I only have Brave on my phone because it lets me play TH-cam videos with my screen off or in the background.
Basically, I'm not paying TH-cam for features that should already be free, just so they can waste that money on ruining the platform even more.
No idea what that is.
@@qaaris4280 better youtube client
Already got Brave, feel like it's all I need.
@@qaaris4280 agree
They glow in the dark
Can you try out Brave's fork called Dissenter?
What is ‘hardened’ Firefox?
Can you please make a review on Vivaldi browser?
What best other alternative?
How does one acquire "Hardened Firefox"?
I like how youtube doesnt even know what i want to watch, or what to advertise to me, its actually sort of more annoying to get ads that don't pertain, but I mean,
Is hardened firefox just firefox with a particular set of settings or something inherently different from firefox?
Because I have both Brave and normal Firefox installed on my phone right now.
Hardened firefox is basically firefox with privacy tweaks at about:config
@@Hugo-mm7he
I see
brave is a good browser
Totally
Vivaldi has automatic ad and tracker blocking as well. And no controversy.
not completely open source
For now, sandboxed hardened firefox is enough for me.
@Nate Higgers I despise Mozilla, but Firefox is still a great open source full featured browser!
@@timi_r0 why do you despise mozilla?
le shill lion.
Le shill luke
@@____-gy5mq WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH YOUR USERNAME!??!
@@ladvargleinad7566 Chinese
Isn't mullvad, and Tor privacy browsers? I am ticked off at Brave for 2 reasons! One is after 2-3 weeks it slowed down so much that it's speed was like that of any browser out there. Two is the shield would make me aware that i had BAT to collect, so i collected it, but it was NOT put inside my Brave wallet.
4:05 Btw, who downloads Brave for Linux via an affiliate link?
Literally not a single soul does, thats why Luke Smith says the Brave Team owes him money
Linux was never supported in the referral program due to technical limitations and more.
Imagin using closed source software
But youtube is
Brave is open source though
@@jaymesc4436 you can use NewPipe or invidious
@@AcidiFy574 have you ever tried connecting an account to either of those?
@@charliekahn4205 no need
It's just ungoogled chromium with some extentions slapped onto it