Let me clarify my point here for everyone. After you hit imm3 usually your "Game sense" or understanding the state of the game becomes your main priority to advance upwards (But you shouldn't neglect your mechanics) Game sense isn't to be neglected ~ I'm just saying sub imm3 focus on the fights you take + mechanics Your mental/mindset is actually the most important part of this game.. but i needed clickbait.
Honestly being faceit 10 from CS I knew this, but when I moved to val in 2024 after not playing any FPS for 7 years straight and looking up valorant specific improvement guides, the hyperfocus I saw on gamesense (Which itself is needed for every rank as a fundamental level of gamesense includes timings of running, gun or knife out, or sneaking, reload timings, and likelyhood to lurk along with other stuff which ignoring the rest of the basics are pretty important to cinch those other rounds that otherwise might've been lost for free) was jarring for me. I always told my friends whenever they asked me how to improve that they should ignore everything and just know how to shoot heads, as from personal experience I knew that until you reach a certain point mechanically where most people that are ahead of you are there in a near insurmountable sense, either due to a massive timesink+dedication into the game, or pure talent, where you must invest elsewhere beyond the raw fundamentals, that nothing else matters. Smoke lineups, molly lineups, eco calculations (I am reciting my CS knowledge as I believe my current rank of immortal 2 is not at all appropriate to make judgements on a higher level) none of it mattered if you just got destroyed the first corner you peeked.
This is true. In my experience, mechanics alone can get you to asc - immortal elo. Gamesense is something that is learned through experience, so for 99% of low elo or hardstuck players it's a far better time investment to focus on building your mechanics.
IMO mechanics are more of a "you must be this tall to ride" type of thing. If you neglect your mechanics, you will likely never reach the rank you desire, but once your mechanics are at a high enough level the returns dimish very quickly.
How did you achieve your mechanics though, that's perhaps the curious bit to me. Some other game? Stupid amount of aim training and dm? Or just naturally that way and just didn't even realise lol
When I first started playing val, a friend introduced it to me; so he also became my coach, too. He was a peak plat-dia player, and basically thought me the basics of the game. We play a deathmatch 1v1 everytime on Ascent, and after sometime, he concluded that my aim was good. I didn't believe it. Because I know to myself, from all of the solo games (Gold-Plat) I play, my gamesense is somehow above the average 'cuz I watch vods so I know some advanced strats/things. But I myself acctually believed him because its ofcourse, faster improvement. But what I feel rn is that im lacking my aim/mechanics when taking gunfights to support my gamesense. This video reassured me. Thank you ❤️
One thing I realized when trying to get “calm aim” is that calm aim doesn’t really exist. Like obviously you should stay calm but I have seen TH-camr that you need to slow down your aim buts that’s not gonna help when you are getting one tapped in less than a second. I learned tension control, or not to grip the mouse too hard. What I do is grip the mouse like I am holding a PB&J sandwich. Not too hard it will squeeze everything out, but not too soft that it will fall. This has helped me and the moment I stated applying in that game I got 2 aces in that one comp game and a 4k.
Man your video is great but these subtitles are REALLY jarring. Just some feedback. I agree with what you've said tho, I need to improve my mechanics for sure
Yeah I agree, subbing isn't my strong suit. I am going to change it from 1.5 --> 3 seconds in the future and make the jump a little less. I'm learning how to edit that's why this video took so long to produce. SO much to learn
The thing that solidifies this for me is the fact that DM winrate scales with rank. If you look at tracker stats higher ranks often win more DMs. If game sense was more important we would see a lot more immortals in the middle of the scoreboard. Some people say DM is easy to cheat (shift walking, sound whoring) but to win a DM you need to be fast, you cannot camp in a corner.
your thoughts make a lot of sense for me personally, ive been seeing and hearing and BELIEVING all of these statements that youll just come across on tiktok or shorts and like you said they are extremely bold and you feel a sort of obligation to listen to them just because theyre a higher rank or whatever it is, but when you bring self reflection into this it really helps clarify these misconceptions. im projecting here but i feel like when people watch these videos on "improving or tips and tricks" theyre just zoned out, trying to understand what the narrator is saying then trying to stuff it all in their brain and miss the entire point idk why i typed all of this rant done
Ive always said in the past that if you have great mechanics you can get away with the dumbest plays and when you hit every shot its easier to keep thinking of your next move and make better decisions
If you have the aim, you'll have the game sense. It comes with experience lmao it's always funny when people say if you can't aim just outsmart them but no amount of strats can stop a Chamber tapping everything on their screen
So many of my elo (plat-dia) needs to hear this. I am always the type to prioritize gun fights over everything else, I always do DMs and whenever I tell my friends to play DMs more they be like "heh, its just boring" then whiff entire mag on enemy thats not even looking at them lol
i started playing 3 months ago. I started working on my mechanics MOSTLY during comp games, before I did this I was silver and stuck in s3. Now, I've reached plat and was totally shocked at my improvement because I heard so many times that I should go back and watch my games to see what plays I could have done, my agent utility usage when really I just simply needed to work on mechanics. I neglected my mechanics as said in this video and it slowed my improvement, but simply putting some time into working on mechanics can have a huge change in winning more games. W video.
i've watched a coaching vid for some guy playing lol, the coach said this about decision making: the good decision is the decision you make instantly without hesitation, and the only bad decision you can make is hesitating on what to do.
I mean.. to some degree but that's the false Dilemma fallacy. because you can make a decision confidently that's absolutely the worst decision you could've made. there is a lot more grey area to that
@@OD26 yeah, but confidence also plays into how good your aim is. it's like a self fullfilling prophecy, if you wholeheartedly believe (in game) that the play you are going to make will work, then sometimes it'll work and sometimes it won't. Same goes for the other way around, if you don't believe what you're doing is correct, you'll most likely lose. questioning if you made the right decisions is IMO a thing for the vod review. btw great content, love how you keep it real.
confidence is good too boost up individual skills and decision making process, but you will still need mechanics anyways. like will you rather pick a 50:50 gunfight or 70:30 gunfight, crosshair placement, minimap awareness, understanding visual and audio cue of each agents, etc
I guess i would kinda agree but i think both is important Ive seen a lot of people having good Aim/movement but putting themselves in a bad position: As a duellist/controller main Ive seen a lot of duellist overcommitting and a lot of controllers relying to much on their utility. For a good controller you put urself in a good position to fight but the advantage of the position is useless if you dont hit For a duellist commiting a fight is not bad but at least wait for backup beeing able to get traded. I think the overall definition of game sense can be splittet in 4 categories: 1. Agent Selection and Round starting(For example "Default") 2. Utility usage 3. Counter Strategies(this is mostly based on high elo noticing enemys habits) 4. Map control/Positioning But in the end its still a shooter game so you still have to hit ur enemys head.
i like how you say "and this is how you got us to click on the video" but my real reason was finding your coaching in another video really useful and wanting to see more breakdowns and this being the most recent video. I feel like I have okay aim, raw game sense from csgo with my 7k hours but the ability/util usage makes my inconsistency that much more real. I'm currently asc 1 0 rr. I go from dropping 30k's to bot fragging multiple games in a row. I need help with consistency, my mental overall is actually pretty good I'd say. i don't shit talk teammates and when other teammates do it, i understand people can have bad games and try to keep everyone positive even in a 1-13 loss. I'm gonna join the discord and recommend everyone else to do the same, maybe one day I can get coaching from you!
As someone who spams 10-15 dms a day and barley plays ranked i can proudly say I fit this criteria I make being voltaic nova my entire personality 🙂↕️
Yeah I guess it's often a matter of where you are at with each to just know what to balance. Generally speaking though, I really feel like if you get your mechanics to a point where it just doesn't really even matter anymore, it's a lot easier to then apply more sensible game sense. Some people will definitely struggle with that more, but even so mechanics is easily the more "impossible" thing to learn, and slightly off of optimal decision making can be compensated by killer mechanics up to the highest ranks. You won't reach rank 1 maybe, or become a pro unless you nail both, but bad mechanics will punish you far sooner imo. And I agree mental is a huge part. In sports too, mental might often be the final 0.5% difference, only that small difference is what makes a struggling pro into a world champion because that's just how close it is at that level. Even in terms of mechanics, how often do you see someone with great mechanics in aimlabs and dm and range completely suck in game, even with decent game sense? People just basically aren't able to transfer the mechanics into matches. That's also why sometimes you see those people pop off like crazy like they're smurfing. They simply were able to put their skills in use in that match whereas usually they aren't.
Fenis mechanics aren't that bad in overall scheme of things but his game reading probably the best out there and overshadows his mechanical ability by quite some miles
anecdotally, this is pretty common amongst my friends who play league. that is a game where macro, decision making, and game knowledge are way more important than mechanics, and there are so many guides that are like "how to reach diamond without mechanics" (skillcapped has these videos where they get a challenger to play in plat with 1000 ping or no keyboard etc). the belief that doing the right things will lead to getting kills rather than being able to get the kills themselves just carries over
sure i'll make a mechanical tutorial. but just a warning there are many mechanic guides out there that should suffice. Most people over think the game and feel like they're missing a "piece" but fail to realize you're bound to lose 40% of your gunfights and that to improve takes constant time and practice
i think one of the issues is lack of clarity, both the term mechanics and the term game sense is so fkn vague. If im practicing 'game sense' that could mean ability use, comms, macro, engage timings, rotations, etc etc if i say mechanics that can mean raw aim, movement, how to swing, how to hold angles etc etc A lot of the time players have an issue that is a combination of a lack of understanding (game sense) and a lack of mechanics. Its really hard for low rank players to understand why they lost a fight, its easy to say 'oh he timinged me' when really they just randomly jumped or pulled out an ability, or its easy to say 'oh i whiffed' when really they slow peeked the angle because they were unaware that an enemy was there. These issues are a combination of misunderstanding the game state and of doing a bad mechanical play. I deff agree witht this vid esp bc i feel the main point ur making is that its not as simple as 'oh i have bad gamesense' and that training mechanics is something very measurable compared to 'game sense'
I finally after 300 ish hours(lvery inconsistent /sporadic) finally can tell when my crosshair is head level. Took me about 200 hrs of dm+ 100 hrs of comp. Climbed from bronze to plat. After I finally had an intuitive feel for crosshair placement Went from plat to asc like so fast. Felt so easy. Aim was there but felt like i was aiming at terrets I couldn't see until now😊 Had the aim just didn't know where to put it. . Now I feel my reflexes and click timing isn't fast enough so just have to grind that.
I do agree, but I have an issue that people say improve mechanics and then do not properly teach them, at least not in a way that's publicly accessible. I have yet to see a proper peeking / ch placement guide that just just list 3 simple types of peeks and vague times when to use them and calls it a day
this is because it's impossible to make a comprehensive guide for every angle and every situation and mechanics are a lot about repetition of the core 3-7 concepts and applying them correctly. On top of this it will force people to over think and it goes back to the game sense thing. A lot of times 2 separate peeks/approaches to a fight can be correct. or even a bad peek can work because of a confident mindset. (especially at the lower levels) This game is filled with the basics and requires your own game style to developed. To say "I need someone to teach me this" is disingenuous to your own learning process/your belief in your own abilities
100% right I was hard stuck silver for the longest time and everybody told me to get better game sense and start yapping about me not needing aim because of what people told me game sense was fr the only thing I focused on, but one day one of my imo 2 friends was watching me vod review and just went down on me. He told me that I'm making the right choices most of the time but my aim is so ass that I can't capitalize off of anything that I do. As soon as I focus on fixing my aim I hit imo 1 in two months not even fricking capping. AIM MATTERS stop carrying about game sense ofc don't be an dumb ahh, but you should be poring most of your energy into ur aim.
IMO, low elo players tend to say that aim isn't important because they can't shoot straight and don't know how to fix it. However, I think that in low elo players should try to develop game sense faster because the aim comes natural with time (especially flicks and miro adjustments, for cross hair placement, you really have to actually work). The top priority in low elo, however, is developing good movement habits, to know when to ADS and when to crouch. But at the end of the day, you don't need to do drills and such. Even only a quick warmup before your ranked sessions is more than enough to ready up your brain to develop habits. And if a core fundamental is lacking, you will know it when you end up hard, stuck somewhere, but to advance all you have to do is play at times when you are not frustrated or tilted and you actually want to play and learn the game and never give up
I mean i only worked on mechanics and aimlabs grid shot, scored 113k therem then reached diamond from gold in 1 month, while team voice chat all diabled, So yeah, if others mechanics are not average or bellow u, it doesn't matter what plan they have, if they dead from u at the begining
The reason why im hardstuck plat is due to the lack of mechanics. I guess im not cut out for the high level gunplay. I try to compensate by maining cypher but the highest rank ive ever gotten is plat 3 85 points.
I have been stuck asc3 for couple of months now and I have been playing consistently for a while and training aim, playing enough comp everyday, and even analyzing my mistakes post-round. What do I do? :(
How can you pull everything appart.. while everything makes up for the whole accumulated outcome.. (not you but in general) most are all stuck for different reasons, because missing something. So all of the mentioned, is fundamental.. 😅
Gammesence helps you get kills easier Have a better/position from you round read But if you have aim of a silver and game sense of ascendant you can max reach plat I no brained boosted to 500 rr dropping 30 kills every game just coz I am used to playing t1 players and top 10 of the ladder who never give you a break, while players of lower elo will give you shit ton of space to abuse themselves
i just really need help to learn when i should rotate over if im holding and angle where i think some one is lurking and how should i rotate and retake a site alone if all my teamates are dead
Na ive been saying aim is everything, i have good gamesense for a silver/gold player but that alone and my mediocre aim will never get me out, but if i had good aim and mediocre game sense id be diamond immo easy
I've been hard stuck gold for a while but I've been top fragging against plats and diamonds last act, (this is a few days after rank reset) I'm gonna vod review myself to figure out if I'm doin anything wrong but I just wanted to ask what else I could improve on, my peeks feel fine and my flashes on yoru most of the time have them full blind, I actively try to entry or trade my teammates out, and flash for my teammates when we decide to run triple duelist no initiator. I just wanna ask if there's anything else I can try improving on other than what I've listed.
Claw idk why butt it makes micro adjustments and fast flicks feel better for me, butt it is personal preference so just try claw and see if you like it(btw I was also a palm grip user).
It depends on your mouse and your hand size. Whatever is comfortable. Every aim coach will tell you the same. Don't listen to random TH-cam comments. Viscose I think has a video on this, VT Matty, I don't know about Minigod, but they'll all tell you that your hand shape and size is most important, and finding a mouse that fits your hand is the second step. Me personally, I have a hybrid claw grip, kind of similar to Dfalt, that works great on smaller mice for me, because I have smaller hands.
I actually need some help with my game, I am immortal, but I tested in range and customs, that I need to aim OVER the enemy to hit the head, like my hit boxes are slightly wrong, is that a common thing or do I just reinstall and hope?
Yea…. Mechanics mattwr I feel yt stop mechanics cauze they simplify it but Being gold stuck hitting plat once in awhile and now going hard on aim/mechanics There more to movement than just PEEK STOP FIRE. way more Thats why u have to meet practicing
I don’t need to listen to your explanation lol. People have said in countless videos how you need to worry bout your mechs to get to gold and I just hit back with nah if you really wanna be good at the game then you need great mechs so you don’t need to rely on your team or enemy to HELP you get in a good position to make a round winning play. You just swing long kill one dodge the bullets of the other and tap that dude in the face 😂
My weak points, concentration, twitchy body, no patience. Poor timing. In short, bronze hardstuck. But it's ok. In immortal people are as toxic as in any other rank. So I'm fine with my own level. You win some you lose some. It really dousnt matter.... 😅😅😅
why do gold and platinum players aim better than your clips here if its just aim training till immortal? in my elo on frankfurt servers specifically people are braindead but have way too good aim
Let me clarify my point here for everyone.
After you hit imm3 usually your "Game sense" or understanding the state of the game becomes your main priority to advance upwards (But you shouldn't neglect your mechanics)
Game sense isn't to be neglected ~ I'm just saying sub imm3 focus on the fights you take + mechanics
Your mental/mindset is actually the most important part of this game.. but i needed clickbait.
Yeah, imm3 I’d say is where strategy becomes more prevalent during gameplay and mechanics alone won’t carry
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Honestly being faceit 10 from CS I knew this, but when I moved to val in 2024 after not playing any FPS for 7 years straight and looking up valorant specific improvement guides, the hyperfocus I saw on gamesense (Which itself is needed for every rank as a fundamental level of gamesense includes timings of running, gun or knife out, or sneaking, reload timings, and likelyhood to lurk along with other stuff which ignoring the rest of the basics are pretty important to cinch those other rounds that otherwise might've been lost for free) was jarring for me.
I always told my friends whenever they asked me how to improve that they should ignore everything and just know how to shoot heads, as from personal experience I knew that until you reach a certain point mechanically where most people that are ahead of you are there in a near insurmountable sense, either due to a massive timesink+dedication into the game, or pure talent, where you must invest elsewhere beyond the raw fundamentals, that nothing else matters. Smoke lineups, molly lineups, eco calculations (I am reciting my CS knowledge as I believe my current rank of immortal 2 is not at all appropriate to make judgements on a higher level) none of it mattered if you just got destroyed the first corner you peeked.
the title was the reason that i almost didnt watch ur video but i hoped that ur video is better then the titel
then i saw this comment ♥
Great video. I subbed. I like all the points you made and the channel has like a real vibe, like no bullshit, everything clear, well explained.
This man fit a whole novel into 9 minutes but he was spitting facts the whole time
okay okay i hear you guys i'll slow down my speach
@OD26 nah bro I fuck with it actually lol. Shame everyone else has an issue
As an xQc fan, I'm used to this
@@OD26 i usually 2x any other videos, so you are good with this speed
This is true. In my experience, mechanics alone can get you to asc - immortal elo. Gamesense is something that is learned through experience, so for 99% of low elo or hardstuck players it's a far better time investment to focus on building your mechanics.
But you are not good at the actual game, you are just good at one aspect of it.
IMO mechanics are more of a "you must be this tall to ride" type of thing. If you neglect your mechanics, you will likely never reach the rank you desire, but once your mechanics are at a high enough level the returns dimish very quickly.
TRUE i can agree to this. but if you become 2x the poles height it will put you on a new ride
Explain what mechanics is
@@Notorious9.11aim and movement.
perry caught a crazy stray
i thought that was his whole thing "i can't aim so i buy judge + odin and play lineups"
@@OD26 perry is the op goat!!!
I hit imm1 with no abilities, no minimap, no gamesense and no awareness. 100% correct
THAT'S MY GOAT RIGHT THERE. EVERYONE GO WATCH HIS CONTENT I LOVE THIS GUY
I was thinking about him when a saw the tilte
@@OD26 hahahha
omgg zaskoooo
How did you achieve your mechanics though, that's perhaps the curious bit to me. Some other game? Stupid amount of aim training and dm? Or just naturally that way and just didn't even realise lol
When I first started playing val, a friend introduced it to me; so he also became my coach, too. He was a peak plat-dia player, and basically thought me the basics of the game. We play a deathmatch 1v1 everytime on Ascent, and after sometime, he concluded that my aim was good. I didn't believe it. Because I know to myself, from all of the solo games (Gold-Plat) I play, my gamesense is somehow above the average 'cuz I watch vods so I know some advanced strats/things. But I myself acctually believed him because its ofcourse, faster improvement. But what I feel rn is that im lacking my aim/mechanics when taking gunfights to support my gamesense. This video reassured me. Thank you ❤️
One thing I realized when trying to get “calm aim” is that calm aim doesn’t really exist. Like obviously you should stay calm but I have seen TH-camr that you need to slow down your aim buts that’s not gonna help when you are getting one tapped in less than a second. I learned tension control, or not to grip the mouse too hard. What I do is grip the mouse like I am holding a PB&J sandwich. Not too hard it will squeeze everything out, but not too soft that it will fall. This has helped me and the moment I stated applying in that game I got 2 aces in that one comp game and a 4k.
Man your video is great but these subtitles are REALLY jarring. Just some feedback. I agree with what you've said tho, I need to improve my mechanics for sure
Yeah I agree, subbing isn't my strong suit. I am going to change it from 1.5 --> 3 seconds in the future and make the jump a little less. I'm learning how to edit that's why this video took so long to produce. SO much to learn
@@OD26im ngl as a genz brainrotter it is perfect
No hate but I second this
Think they’re really big too
@@OD26 Borderline unwatchable, would in all honesty suggest -, and appreciate a reupload with better subs
The thing that solidifies this for me is the fact that DM winrate scales with rank. If you look at tracker stats higher ranks often win more DMs. If game sense was more important we would see a lot more immortals in the middle of the scoreboard. Some people say DM is easy to cheat (shift walking, sound whoring) but to win a DM you need to be fast, you cannot camp in a corner.
your thoughts make a lot of sense for me personally, ive been seeing and hearing and BELIEVING all of these statements that youll just come across on tiktok or shorts and like you said they are extremely bold and you feel a sort of obligation to listen to them just because theyre a higher rank or whatever it is, but when you bring self reflection into this it really helps clarify these misconceptions. im projecting here but i feel like when people watch these videos on "improving or tips and tricks" theyre just zoned out, trying to understand what the narrator is saying then trying to stuff it all in their brain and miss the entire point idk why i typed all of this rant done
self reflection is the number one thing i teach to everyone. It's the most important skill for not only valorant but real life as well.
THIS MAN SPITTING NOTHING BUT FACTS 🗣. Banger vid king
Ive always said in the past that if you have great mechanics you can get away with the dumbest plays and when you hit every shot its easier to keep thinking of your next move and make better decisions
If you have the aim, you'll have the game sense. It comes with experience lmao it's always funny when people say if you can't aim just outsmart them but no amount of strats can stop a Chamber tapping everything on their screen
So many of my elo (plat-dia) needs to hear this. I am always the type to prioritize gun fights over everything else, I always do DMs and whenever I tell my friends to play DMs more they be like "heh, its just boring" then whiff entire mag on enemy thats not even looking at them lol
I find it kind of funny that the last minutes was just you trying not to get jump by some people honestly you are real for that.
had to clarify and cover my back real quick
i started playing 3 months ago. I started working on my mechanics MOSTLY during comp games, before I did this I was silver and stuck in s3. Now, I've reached plat and was totally shocked at my improvement because I heard so many times that I should go back and watch my games to see what plays I could have done, my agent utility usage when really I just simply needed to work on mechanics. I neglected my mechanics as said in this video and it slowed my improvement, but simply putting some time into working on mechanics can have a huge change in winning more games. W video.
Watching 2x fells like 4x
do i really talk fast? i was intentionally slowing myself down
@@OD26 the fast talking is good keep it up
i was watching vids in 2x before this and i assumed it was automatically at 2X lol
@@OD26 thats you slowing yourself down? holy damn bro
new banger video from overdose twenty six
thanks goat
how’d he survive the first 25
He did not@@pyrrhic888
Ok now i am marking my journey from gold to asc in 1 month from this vedio
You got this!
had to check if the video was on 1.75x but since I watch all my lectures on 1.75x anyways, this is perfect
I’ve always felt like mechanics aren’t everything but if you hit your shot it is literally a different game then to you not hitting your shot
Good vid. Gonna focus more on my mechanics cuz of u
i've watched a coaching vid for some guy playing lol, the coach said this about decision making: the good decision is the decision you make instantly without hesitation, and the only bad decision you can make is hesitating on what to do.
I mean.. to some degree but that's the false Dilemma fallacy. because you can make a decision confidently that's absolutely the worst decision you could've made. there is a lot more grey area to that
@@OD26 yeah, but confidence also plays into how good your aim is. it's like a self fullfilling prophecy, if you wholeheartedly believe (in game) that the play you are going to make will work, then sometimes it'll work and sometimes it won't. Same goes for the other way around, if you don't believe what you're doing is correct, you'll most likely lose. questioning if you made the right decisions is IMO a thing for the vod review.
btw great content, love how you keep it real.
confidence is good too boost up individual skills and decision making process, but you will still need mechanics anyways. like will you rather pick a 50:50 gunfight or 70:30 gunfight, crosshair placement, minimap awareness, understanding visual and audio cue of each agents, etc
I guess i would kinda agree but i think both is important Ive seen a lot of people having good Aim/movement but putting themselves in a bad position:
As a duellist/controller main Ive seen a lot of duellist overcommitting and a lot of controllers relying to much on their utility.
For a good controller you put urself in a good position to fight but the advantage of the position is useless if you dont hit
For a duellist commiting a fight is not bad but at least wait for backup beeing able to get traded.
I think the overall definition of game sense can be splittet in 4 categories:
1. Agent Selection and Round starting(For example "Default")
2. Utility usage
3. Counter Strategies(this is mostly based on high elo noticing enemys habits)
4. Map control/Positioning
But in the end its still a shooter game so you still have to hit ur enemys head.
alrdy knew allat, but love od uploads and this video made my adhd brain feel funky
i'll work on it
@@OD26 It was awesome, like great, best yt vid for that short length, topic great too 100% agree, best coach there is for val (:
i like how you say "and this is how you got us to click on the video" but my real reason was finding your coaching in another video really useful and wanting to see more breakdowns and this being the most recent video. I feel like I have okay aim, raw game sense from csgo with my 7k hours but the ability/util usage makes my inconsistency that much more real. I'm currently asc 1 0 rr. I go from dropping 30k's to bot fragging multiple games in a row. I need help with consistency, my mental overall is actually pretty good I'd say. i don't shit talk teammates and when other teammates do it, i understand people can have bad games and try to keep everyone positive even in a 1-13 loss. I'm gonna join the discord and recommend everyone else to do the same, maybe one day I can get coaching from you!
Perry slander is crazy 😭
youre not wrong tho
I realise I’m bad at playing with my team on attack because I’m a low rank bronze 3 so I’m not used to my duelists pushing
bronze 3 is chill just aim it out champ
@ well if I actually play ranked I might be able to reach silver
@@icecream5125bronze/silvers has 0 awareness, you should be able to get out with aim alone
As a voltaic jade acendent plumber I feel attacked 😂
hey bro... I would never be a plumber so i respect you for that. but lets get out of both green ranks! lock in
love how fast u speak everyone else speaks so slow
As someone who spams 10-15 dms a day and barley plays ranked i can proudly say I fit this criteria I make being voltaic nova my entire personality 🙂↕️
nova is better than jade... so we are taking a step in the right direction
cringe fuck
Yeah I guess it's often a matter of where you are at with each to just know what to balance. Generally speaking though, I really feel like if you get your mechanics to a point where it just doesn't really even matter anymore, it's a lot easier to then apply more sensible game sense. Some people will definitely struggle with that more, but even so mechanics is easily the more "impossible" thing to learn, and slightly off of optimal decision making can be compensated by killer mechanics up to the highest ranks. You won't reach rank 1 maybe, or become a pro unless you nail both, but bad mechanics will punish you far sooner imo.
And I agree mental is a huge part. In sports too, mental might often be the final 0.5% difference, only that small difference is what makes a struggling pro into a world champion because that's just how close it is at that level. Even in terms of mechanics, how often do you see someone with great mechanics in aimlabs and dm and range completely suck in game, even with decent game sense? People just basically aren't able to transfer the mechanics into matches. That's also why sometimes you see those people pop off like crazy like they're smurfing. They simply were able to put their skills in use in that match whereas usually they aren't.
Fenis mechanics aren't that bad in overall scheme of things but his game reading probably the best out there and overshadows his mechanical ability by quite some miles
i had to google who this was cuz i had no clue
6:22 looks like a TenZ moment
glaze making my heart skip a beat
another reason people like to say game sense is more important is because aim training is boring, and people want any excuse not to do it
anecdotally, this is pretty common amongst my friends who play league. that is a game where macro, decision making, and game knowledge are way more important than mechanics, and there are so many guides that are like "how to reach diamond without mechanics" (skillcapped has these videos where they get a challenger to play in plat with 1000 ping or no keyboard etc). the belief that doing the right things will lead to getting kills rather than being able to get the kills themselves just carries over
can you state the mechanics? like peeking, straphing, ect
w video as always
sure i'll make a mechanical tutorial. but just a warning there are many mechanic guides out there that should suffice. Most people over think the game and feel like they're missing a "piece" but fail to realize you're bound to lose 40% of your gunfights and that to improve takes constant time and practice
Thanks
i think one of the issues is lack of clarity, both the term mechanics and the term game sense is so fkn vague. If im practicing 'game sense' that could mean ability use, comms, macro, engage timings, rotations, etc etc
if i say mechanics that can mean raw aim, movement, how to swing, how to hold angles etc etc
A lot of the time players have an issue that is a combination of a lack of understanding (game sense) and a lack of mechanics.
Its really hard for low rank players to understand why they lost a fight, its easy to say 'oh he timinged me' when really they just randomly jumped or pulled out an ability, or its easy to say 'oh i whiffed' when really they slow peeked the angle because they were unaware that an enemy was there. These issues are a combination of misunderstanding the game state and of doing a bad mechanical play.
I deff agree witht this vid esp bc i feel the main point ur making is that its not as simple as 'oh i have bad gamesense' and that training mechanics is something very measurable compared to 'game sense'
you nailed it goat good shit
I finally after 300 ish hours(lvery inconsistent /sporadic) finally can tell when my crosshair is head level. Took me about 200 hrs of dm+ 100 hrs of comp. Climbed from bronze to plat.
After I finally had an intuitive feel for crosshair placement Went from plat to asc like so fast. Felt so easy. Aim was there but felt like i was aiming at terrets I couldn't see until now😊
Had the aim just didn't know where to put it.
. Now I feel my reflexes and click timing isn't fast enough so just have to grind that.
You got this! Keep the grind going!
I do agree, but I have an issue that people say improve mechanics and then do not properly teach them, at least not in a way that's publicly accessible. I have yet to see a proper peeking / ch placement guide that just just list 3 simple types of peeks and vague times when to use them and calls it a day
this is because it's impossible to make a comprehensive guide for every angle and every situation and mechanics are a lot about repetition of the core 3-7 concepts and applying them correctly. On top of this it will force people to over think and it goes back to the game sense thing. A lot of times 2 separate peeks/approaches to a fight can be correct. or even a bad peek can work because of a confident mindset. (especially at the lower levels)
This game is filled with the basics and requires your own game style to developed. To say "I need someone to teach me this" is disingenuous to your own learning process/your belief in your own abilities
100% right I was hard stuck silver for the longest time and everybody told me to get better game sense and start yapping about me not needing aim because of what people told me game sense was fr the only thing I focused on, but one day one of my imo 2 friends was watching me vod review and just went down on me. He told me that I'm making the right choices most of the time but my aim is so ass that I can't capitalize off of anything that I do. As soon as I focus on fixing my aim I hit imo 1 in two months not even fricking capping. AIM MATTERS stop carrying about game sense ofc don't be an dumb ahh, but you should be poring most of your energy into ur aim.
IMO, low elo players tend to say that aim isn't important because they can't shoot straight and don't know how to fix it. However, I think that in low elo players should try to develop game sense faster because the aim comes natural with time (especially flicks and miro adjustments, for cross hair placement, you really have to actually work). The top priority in low elo, however, is developing good movement habits, to know when to ADS and when to crouch. But at the end of the day, you don't need to do drills and such. Even only a quick warmup before your ranked sessions is more than enough to ready up your brain to develop habits. And if a core fundamental is lacking, you will know it when you end up hard, stuck somewhere, but to advance all you have to do is play at times when you are not frustrated or tilted and you actually want to play and learn the game and never give up
I wana be a plumber if that makes me ascendant
LMFAO, plumber is a goated career
lmfao this is exactly how I imagine myself talking to the sensitive internet or just this sensitive generation
i was absolutely trolling in diamond 3 because i only have mechanics
LOL fair enough
As someone with over 1000 hours I cannot say I’ve hit my dream rank yet im still stuck in silver bro please help me
join the cord, meet the qualifications for free coaching, go from there
@@OD26 dont think yoru players are welcomed are they but i would love help with aim mechanics
can you make a video on how to properly train mechanics?
How to benchmark mechanics is the question I’ve had. Where should my mechanics be at each rank and how do I judge them.
i pray od is here to stay this time
hello! I am here to stay
I mean i only worked on mechanics and aimlabs grid shot, scored 113k therem then reached diamond from gold in 1 month, while team voice chat all diabled, So yeah, if others mechanics are not average or bellow u, it doesn't matter what plan they have, if they dead from u at the begining
please tell me you aren't just playing gridshot anymore
i needed this thank u
lock in bro
why are all the clips basically your team pushing in and then dying 😭
because immortal players are nothing but fucking dogs
@@OD26 oh gosh
I needed to check if i set up the playspeed on 1,5 XD
great video overdose26
thanks nyat (ariels wife)
4:30 W jett moment
Can u make q video about the different types of mechanics valorant needs
most other guides are usually good enough but i will make my own rendition
i remember you saying reyna is the worst then someone challenged you to play 100 games of reyna and now you suddenly like playing her??
if you can't beat them join them 🔥
9:06 yo it’s me
thanks for supporting my sick cat
OD26 i really enjoyed your video and i am currently p1 but i really struggle to find 3 mains to play. Do you have any tips?
play the ones you enjoy the most, if it's even between all try to identify a play style you want, if you still don't know... Flip a coin i guess
i am just looking at the gameplay played by the reyna i have to see it second time for listening you
that's yours truly
The reason why im hardstuck plat is due to the lack of mechanics. I guess im not cut out for the high level gunplay. I try to compensate by maining cypher but the highest rank ive ever gotten is plat 3 85 points.
Peeking with intent is my issue a lot of times. Any suggestions on how to improve that?
be aware of it, record your games and watch it back, watch pros peek as well
my goat coach
hi zay!
So basically 100 more hours of aim labds then I can hold w and tap heads
bro tryna immitate eminem by raping these facts so fast
I have been stuck asc3 for couple of months now and I have been playing consistently for a while and training aim, playing enough comp everyday, and even analyzing my mistakes post-round. What do I do? :(
uhhh if this is all true you can easily get free coaching inside of my discord
What is use of game sense when you can't aim
How can you pull everything appart.. while everything makes up for the whole accumulated outcome.. (not you but in general) most are all stuck for different reasons, because missing something. So all of the mentioned, is fundamental.. 😅
Gammesence helps you get kills easier
Have a better/position from you round read
But if you have aim of a silver and game sense of ascendant you can max reach plat
I no brained boosted to 500 rr dropping 30 kills every game just coz I am used to playing t1 players and top 10 of the ladder who never give you a break, while players of lower elo will give you shit ton of space to abuse themselves
Me a brain dead voltaic jade seeing the intro: 😅
i just really need help to learn when i should rotate over if im holding and angle where i think some one is lurking and how should i rotate and retake a site alone if all my teamates are dead
As an immortal yoru with horrible aim, this is wrong
Yo I used to edit subtitles like this but Its way too big its distracting
agreed
but OD! What are the mechanics that we should focus on improving
stop talking so slow
based
He’s talking slow to you? I’m cooked 😭😭😭
@@RogueFPS it was sarcasm lol
@ oh my fault. Lol
i can't join the discord from the link, what's it called?
"Sam's fanclub" but discord.gg/od26 should work
why the riot buddy so blurry in the thumbnail?
shush
Na ive been saying aim is everything, i have good gamesense for a silver/gold player but that alone and my mediocre aim will never get me out, but if i had good aim and mediocre game sense id be diamond immo easy
hit the kovaaks and dms, study aim theory and watch some movement guides. play 3-5 games a day for 6 months. i'll see you in immortal
I've been hard stuck gold for a while but I've been top fragging against plats and diamonds last act, (this is a few days after rank reset) I'm gonna vod review myself to figure out if I'm doin anything wrong but I just wanted to ask what else I could improve on, my peeks feel fine and my flashes on yoru most of the time have them full blind, I actively try to entry or trade my teammates out, and flash for my teammates when we decide to run triple duelist no initiator. I just wanna ask if there's anything else I can try improving on other than what I've listed.
i haven't seen your gameplay how would I know?
wait bro I play 10 tdms and aim train and I'm jade ?????? (my aim sucks in game tho???)
try to rework your aim style a bit, and would focus on getting better crosshair placement
What is mechanics here? I mean I don't the meaning of the term here.
Fancy explination
gotta get that ad rev
What if my aim is amazing in dm but shit in comp.
I have a question, what if you got immo with only 14.%hs
Because maybe you play Bucky neon 😂
uhhh headshot percentage can be a very misleading stat. but everyone has room to improve their mechanics... you just might have more room than others
i've been playing val for 3 years on palm grip, tried low mid and high sens and im not consistent, is there a good mouse grip to try?
Claw idk why butt it makes micro adjustments and fast flicks feel better for me, butt it is personal preference so just try claw and see if you like it(btw I was also a palm grip user).
Also the finger tip grip.I just dont like it at all...
you over thinking it gang. all the clips you watched were palm grip
It depends on your mouse and your hand size. Whatever is comfortable. Every aim coach will tell you the same. Don't listen to random TH-cam comments. Viscose I think has a video on this, VT Matty, I don't know about Minigod, but they'll all tell you that your hand shape and size is most important, and finding a mouse that fits your hand is the second step. Me personally, I have a hybrid claw grip, kind of similar to Dfalt, that works great on smaller mice for me, because I have smaller hands.
Hold the mouse
1:17 no one brags about being vt jade 💀🙏
I actually need some help with my game, I am immortal, but I tested in range and customs, that I need to aim OVER the enemy to hit the head, like my hit boxes are slightly wrong, is that a common thing or do I just reinstall and hope?
i am not tech support sadly so i have no clue. best of luck though
HEY, YO, I'm voltaic Jade and I feel ofended XD
hurry up and get to masters buddy
Yea…. Mechanics mattwr
I feel yt stop mechanics cauze they simplify it but
Being gold stuck hitting plat once in awhile and now going hard on aim/mechanics
There more to movement than just PEEK STOP FIRE. way more
Thats why u have to meet practicing
chervilious is this you?
hawk tuah respect button ---------------------->
i will ban you from the server lil bro
@@OD26 good video btw
practice aiming and game sense
I don’t need to listen to your explanation lol. People have said in countless videos how you need to worry bout your mechs to get to gold and I just hit back with nah if you really wanna be good at the game then you need great mechs so you don’t need to rely on your team or enemy to HELP you get in a good position to make a round winning play. You just swing long kill one dodge the bullets of the other and tap that dude in the face 😂
My weak points, concentration, twitchy body, no patience. Poor timing. In short, bronze hardstuck. But it's ok. In immortal people are as toxic as in any other rank. So I'm fine with my own level. You win some you lose some. It really dousnt matter.... 😅😅😅
hello can you coach me i am ascendant hardstuck since a a year and a half but im broke
free coaching is in the discord if you're dedicated
time for aim jail ;-;
don't forget fight selection is just as important
why do gold and platinum players aim better than your clips here if its just aim training till immortal? in my elo on frankfurt servers specifically people are braindead but have way too good aim
LOL
naisu
hmmmm
There is no persons yapping, that id lover listen to for 9:11 minutes