[Talk Gnosis] The Lost Teachings of the Cathars

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  • One of our favorite people, Andrew Phillip Smith, joins us to discuss his new book "The Lost Teachings of the Cathars" and some of his other projects.
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  • @TheCissero
    @TheCissero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Monastic chaste, fast and pray, meditate, chant, divine music and loving earth and earthlings would bring heaven to earth like garden of Eden. Sounds awesome to me. They threatened pompous status prestige of evil elites.

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They probably had an indirect via the Bogmils the Paulicians to the Marcionites, where the transition from the Marcionites to the Paulicians either was direct or socio-culturally indirect, such as a memory when we opposed the "false Christians".

  • @edwardhanson3664
    @edwardhanson3664 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The "Christian Dualism" Andrew talks about originated in the Mystery Schools of Egypt and radiated across the Middle East, finding its way to Asia Minor, the Balkans, and Western Europe. after the Crucifixion. This gave rise to the Manicheans, Paulicians, Bogomils, Waldensians, and the Cathars.

    • @M-i-k-a-e-l
      @M-i-k-a-e-l 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe there is a x-factor involved. A direct AND mystical link to Mary Magdalene.

  • @rerichkarenrhjackson5711
    @rerichkarenrhjackson5711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME INFORMATION

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As you can tell I'm not a fan of the Catholic Church or the jesuits.

  • @elainedaprano9130
    @elainedaprano9130 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deacon Jon, I've never seen a mention of a connection with the Nag Hammadi and Gnosticism but, oddly, have always connected them in my own mind.

  • @simeonsimeonov5205
    @simeonsimeonov5205 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The third son of Bulgarian king Simeon the Great, Veniamin, called Boian the Mage, decided to fight the wrong way of development of Christianity. So he instructed 12 men and women, Bogomili 'Dear to God' and send them to Europe and the rest of the world to spread the word of God. Bogomil were known with different names as Patarens, Catars etc. No one has ever found the bible of the Bogomis or Catars, if there is one...

    • @divnahrast9300
      @divnahrast9300 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bogumils were well accpeted in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Dalmatia ( south Croatia) we have still their STECAK the monument of Bogumili

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The cathar faith I'm sure would be very appealing today if it was relaunched it makes more sense than the religion we are taught maybe that's how it was intended to be by God that's why the Catholic heretics had to stamp it out.

    • @YourBoyJohnny94
      @YourBoyJohnny94 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s because the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon that killed the Saints(Waldensians,cathars,hussites,arnoldists,Lollards,Protestants,etc.) they also revised history telling us that these groups were gnostic heretics.

    • @richardwillett7584
      @richardwillett7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much of it has mad its way into the New Age Movement.

    • @doriesse824
      @doriesse824 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardwillett7584 What types of things besides meditation and chanting?

  • @richardwillett7584
    @richardwillett7584 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and easy to understand. Thank you

  • @skiker6828
    @skiker6828 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It amazes me how many people take the time just bitch and bitch. Very Christ like. 🤦‍♀️. Thank you for this perspective.

  • @Nemesis1ism
    @Nemesis1ism 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's how this all works . From the prospective of a witness! This is how this all works out! @ROME!

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I find it ironic the templars were used to kill the so called cathar heretics then years later the templars got the same fate. The Catholic Church and the inquisition were the true heretics maybe the same fate will happen to the Catholic Church. .

  • @deeveevideos
    @deeveevideos ปีที่แล้ว

    I am for apokatastasis and I am a Christian Universalism. Jesus will work until all creation is reconciled to God then he himself will also relinquish all to God to make all in all.
    1 Timothy 4:10 ESV
    For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe

  • @anthonyrago554
    @anthonyrago554 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is this a Christian religion & not something radically different?

    • @richardcashen7183
      @richardcashen7183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We are not a religion, Jesus came to take us out of religion, out of there god Jehovah. we live as the Apostles lived as well as Jesus celebrant life, we do not judge any one, you can marry and live as a cathar but we prefer you be as the Apostle taught Pure Virgin lives. To give up the flesh. To be pure to love, to be kind, not to judge, not to condemn, to feed the poor, the old, the sick, to do actually what Jesus said. Not to give to Charity but to give your self . Jesus does not want your money he want You.

    • @nt4382
      @nt4382 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardcashen7183 lol, implying that the word 'religion' wasn't invented to describe Christianity...implying that any kind of Catharism survived after the 14th century...

  • @mandaboiarry4366
    @mandaboiarry4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look what come to my home on my channel.....

  • @Tyler.i.81
    @Tyler.i.81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gnosis is the true faith and we do live in a place ruled by the arimanic force it explains all the evil in the world I think I would have been a cathar in another life.

  • @mandaboiarry4366
    @mandaboiarry4366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My surname is boiarry . boiaie

  • @mark621000
    @mark621000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sin curse romans 5

  • @marcussurleyadventures1928
    @marcussurleyadventures1928 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe Dualism has its roots in Taoism. I believe Jesus got most of his ideas from the Silk Road.

  • @deborahrosendinincredible444
    @deborahrosendinincredible444 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How were our souls captured to begin with, if this be a prison planet of souls?

    • @beaver-ly7755
      @beaver-ly7755 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Deborah Rosendinincredible according to Vedic scripture the whole material existence is a prison for the conditioned soul. Conditioned souls were sent here because of our envy and desire to enjoy God's energy instead of being God's servant. God is waiting for is to reject the material world and associate with our Divine Spirits instead of our material bodies. God shows us by experience and realizations that the attempt to lord it over the material energy only ends in suffering. God loves us so much he waits an eternity for is to come around.

    • @richardcashen7183
      @richardcashen7183 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When Lucifer fell he deceived us to think he was the father. Then he seduced us.

    • @richardcashen7183
      @richardcashen7183 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      PS John was a cathar as well as Paul we were the first Christians and we are growing even today because we practice the original teachings of Jesus. Religion hates us why? Because they follow Lucifer, the Jehovah God. The Catholic church is a church of the Harlot. It is a combination of the Pagan religions and the Orthodoxy heir icy. They took the Armies of Rome and crucified, burned us at the stake. Is that of God. Read the scripture they threw out, not because they were heir icy but they expose these Judo Christians who follow the devil god, Lucifer who hides himself under the name of Jehovah.

    • @attaun7435
      @attaun7435 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Richard Cashen What was the scripture that the church threw out?

    • @nknownnknown7613
      @nknownnknown7613 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read what Hildegard Von Bingen said about ccaathars

  • @Randomletterjgdgcihfssjvdy
    @Randomletterjgdgcihfssjvdy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God rejected, & abandoned the Cathar's when they became puritan fundamentalist's. That happened when the Knights Templar's started.
    The fact that the Knight's Templar's were murdered, & tortured is not evidence, & is not proof that God did not support them.
    Many people get murdered, & tortured who are blameless, & God didn't protect them.
    That means nothing about who God supports, or does not support.
    Conservative, puritan fundamentalist's people are teaching Antichrist teaching's.
    Moral, sexual, & social purity, & perfection is anti God, & anti Jesus Christ.

    • @colinblanchard4003
      @colinblanchard4003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      J

    • @janel342
      @janel342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gnosticism existed in the age of Christ. Much older than Catharsis.

    • @janel342
      @janel342 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *CATHAR