Damn, this sounds like a mixture of Bon Iver and Novo Amor! Props dude, nice video!!! I'm a violinist myself and would looooove to make music like this! KEEP ON GOING! Love from Switzerland
The closest tutorial to Bon Iver’s sound I’ve seen!! The self titled album happens to be my favorite!! Loved it!! Hopefully you can make more of this Bon over stuff for us!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Phenomenal. Truly a wonderful homage. The only thing that could have made it more Bon Iver would be more pauses, breathing space and slowing of tempos. Love it.
thanks so much, totally agree! I had to keep this under a minute for social media purposes, but if it was a full song the pace and build would slow down a ton
I hardly ever see producers who play violin/viola so seeing your playing made my jaw drop; you're on another level! Thank you for making these videos!!
haha thanks so much, really appreciate it! just getting started with posting videos consistently but I'm having a great time making them and seeing really awesome results :)
Def would have chosen the same album! The first one is iconic but the production on the second album is a more fletched out Bon Iver I feel like. Love the final result. Awesome job man!
More vids like this pls, this is exactly what ive been searching for, I know it wont be the same probably since the reason this was good is because you love this style of music, but even branching into other genres could be hype. Love your work and the music sounds great!
@@lucasfourniermusic Appreciate the response man!! Will check RAUM out. I own a bricasti, a raumzeitmaschine and various other hardware reverbs and here I am salivating over what reverb you used, and it’s a plugin! Just goes to show that it’s all about how you use it. Great job man 👍
oh wow! I've been looking for this style of breakdown of genre productions for a while now and nothing comes close to how well you've done this. Loved it. PLEASE continue to output more. Instant subbed.
Great vid! Would looooove a 22, A Million breakdown but I wonder if the writing and production style of that album might be too specific and idiosyncratic to be able to replicate. But would love to see you take a stab at it!
thanks so much! I'd love to have a go at it one day, it's my favourite album. Honestly don't know if I'm a good enough producer for it to be honest, Bon Iver's last 2 albums feel almost impossible to emulate haha
Wow, nice! Good tips and nice track at the end. I am very inspired by this to finally start making that album I've been thinking about making for a while now. Cheers! :)
What great talent and video mate! really enjoyed every second! when you talked about the all the gang vocals, how did you pan them? did you double the backvocals also?? how to know , how much to pan , which side and do we double??? :))
thanks so much! my answer might not be satisfying haha but honestly I just wing it. I *usually* double-track every layer and pan one right one left, but it's a lot more random in terms of how far I pan them each side. I recommend just listening to the song's arrangement and asking yourself whether you want the vocals to sound wide or narrow, then pan accordingly!
thanks so much! I wish I included more of the songwriting part in the video. Bon Iver chord progressions are usually really simple, at their core it's usually just something like I-vi-ii-IV. But what makes them sound so unique is that they always use pedal tones (held notes between chords that end up creating interesting inversions/extensions). On a guitar just try leaving a few strings open on every chord to create high pedal tones. And on piano just add a drone of a single note or chord that plays the whole time. Happy songwriting!
I'll add to the list! But for now if you watch my recreation of The National I actually show my whole vocal chain, but it's a very different style to this one.
Very very well done! I’ve watched the video several times and everything it blows my mind! I have a question, do you offer any FL studio templates? All color coded and what not?
thanks so much! this is something I've been meaning to do for a while. I'll make them available for free on my gumroad page soon once I get a chance to touch all my templates up!
there's a lot to show but I'll try to make more mixing-focused videos in the future! in general though, remember that a good mix starts with good recordings/a good production. I know that's *eye roll* advice but it's true - especially in this acoustic genre things should be sounding great even without any significant processing
Love how you articulate the way the double-tracked vocal is heard from both sides, as opposed to "one" source. Such a distinctive feature of Vernon's production. Gonna now attempt to try something similar... with 8 channels on my Ableton Lite 😅
Absolutely! Sufjan Stevens did it first but Justin really put his own spin on it and popularized it a ton. Now it's just become a staple of indie folk!
Great video, thank you. What reverb did you use on the vocals? Specific plug-in, or if it’s native to FL (which I haven’t got), any guidance… hall.. plate… chamber…. Digital versus iR. Any words on that would be much appreciated, thanks!
@@lucasfourniermusic Great! Thanks for the reply : ) I got Raum as part of a Kontact bundle, but haven't really dug into it yet, feeling inspired to do so now. Thanks again
Hey man, great video! I have a question, tho. How do you record your DAW screen while also capturing the sound? For some reason when I try to do it I can only record the screen, and I'm pretty sure it's because I'm using an audio interface. I assume you use one too!
oh dude, this PLAGUED me for ages! I use a plugin called ReaStream (native to Reaper but you can get it on any DAW) to route audio to OBS studio. It can be a bit CPU intensive sometimes but does the trick for me now!
sorry this is a super late reply lol but I rarely do much processing on my acoustic guitars - I think for this one just a touch of compression and an EQ or 2 taking away some highs to make it a bit less bright
Thank you! I have a question about mixing the double vocals - if you tune them with auto tune and fix the timing aren’t you going to have some phasing issues? I feel like I have some issues (listening back in mono) not sure how to fix it.. any tips? Thanks 🙏🏻
sorry this is an insanely late reply lol but I would be really surprised if you got phase issues - even if you're fixing tuning and timing, two seperate recordings should be different enough to avoid any masking. That being said if you think you're having problems maybe try turning down the speed of the autotune to make everything a bit looser.
Great video man! This might be a stupid question and maybe I missed it in the video but with multiple takes of vocals, do you line them up perfectly or do you just make sure they’re close enough? (Hope that makes sense)
whatever sounds good! in For Emma Forever Ago Justin's vocals are super raw sounding and misaligned, and it sounds fantastic. But if you're going for more of a Sufjan Stevens sound with that chorusing effect, the 2 vocals are nearly identical. Just depends on what you're going for!
Great job! One thing I was hoping you'd address was reverb on the vocals. What kinds of reverb plugins did you use and did you use more than one reverb on the main vocal and the background vocals?
I use the plugin Raum for 95% of my reverbs, for this project it was a medium sized spring reverb. Usually I do one reverb send for my lead and another for my backing vocals, but since they kind of all blend together in this style I just did one here in the final mix, it seemed to fit better!
@@lucasfourniermusic Also, your website isn't working properly. I tried to check out your string sample pack and keep getting an error message: Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR
absolutely! I've spent more hours listening to his solo stuff than any other artist. Would love to do a dedicated S. Carey episode but probably just wouldn't get the clicks unfortunately :(
Great tutorial! But I always feel like these bon iver tutorials are way more similar to other artists like novo amor and s. Carey's solo work instead of bon iver. Probably because of the breathy vocals and it being too smooth or something?
I actually agree - I think it's because Justin's voice is a big part of Bon Iver's sonic signature. I've never met a singer that has Justin's tone, and I know for sure my own voice is more similar to Sean/Ali. I do think the production on this track is most similar to Bon Iver's self-titled album (I pretty much copied Holocene lol), so I bet if you replaced my voice with AI Justin or something it would sound 10x more like Bon Iver.
you'll get a slightly different tonal quality, since even when you pan it fully to one side you're hearing a combination of the tone of both microphones, since one is pointing more towards the sound hole, and the other towards the fret board. Also, if you pan it partially and not fully you'll still get a bit of stereoization. That being said, for the way I used it here, it probably made a very tiny difference in the overall sound. It was just easier for me since my mics are always set up in stereo!
@@lucasfourniermusic thanks for the reply and love the song. Can I ask what’s your acoustic guitar. I’m just getting into recording and I’m going to buy a better acoustic guitar and a pair of mic’s for it and I want it to sound decent
@@theclinkmusic In this video I'm using some kind of Yamaha, I'm not even sure the exact model haha but they're a great brand for acoustic guitars. I'd recommend just going to a music store and trying out a few different instruments to test out the sound. And as for mics, definitely recommend a stereo pair of small diaphragm condensers like the KSM137s I used in this video!
I don't think you made a Bon Iver song.... but you definitely DID make a Novo Amor song!!
This is great, it's hard to find production tutorials where the final product is actually good but yours is beautiful!
that means a ton, thanks so much for watching!
This is exactly the sort of production tutorial I've been trying to find -- THANK YOU! Expertly done.
super glad to hear, thanks so much!
Novo amor
this is perfect! i'm writing an indie/folk album for my dissertation and this is exactly the type of tutorial i needed. thank you so much
that's so cool! super happy to hear it was helpful :)
You are the right person who can explain how to do "Fine Line" by Harry Styles!
I love that song! definitely will be doing more breakdowns in that style
Damn, this sounds like a mixture of Bon Iver and Novo Amor! Props dude, nice video!!!
I'm a violinist myself and would looooove to make music like this! KEEP ON GOING! Love from Switzerland
Man I wish I could play the violin. That arrangement is gorgeous
thank you - I was lucky enough to have it forced on me when I was young, but hey, it's never too late to learn! love the username btw haha
The closest tutorial to Bon Iver’s sound I’ve seen!! The self titled album happens to be my favorite!! Loved it!! Hopefully you can make more of this Bon over stuff for us!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
thank you so much! Bon Iver's my absolute favourite artist so I'll definitely make more content about their music!
Phenomenal. Truly a wonderful homage. The only thing that could have made it more Bon Iver would be more pauses, breathing space and slowing of tempos. Love it.
thanks so much, totally agree! I had to keep this under a minute for social media purposes, but if it was a full song the pace and build would slow down a ton
I hardly ever see producers who play violin/viola so seeing your playing made my jaw drop; you're on another level! Thank you for making these videos!!
thanks so much! violin was my first instrument and I'm so glad I found a way to incorporate it into what I do every day
TH-cam pushed this one hard in my recommended, took a while but I'm glad I gave in and clicked.
haha welcome aboard, thanks for watching!
have just started watching your videos honestly its FUCKING LEGIT ...... Pls dont u ever stop making videos
thanks so much!!
Can you make one for Hozier? These videos are sick man! :)
thanks so much! great suggestion, I'll definitely consider it for a future one
The strings add so much to this song
strings have a tendency to do that haha!
Your string production is insane
holy hell, it took me a WHILE to realise you have less than a 1000 subs. This is SO WELL MADE! Loved it!
haha thanks so much, really appreciate it! just getting started with posting videos consistently but I'm having a great time making them and seeing really awesome results :)
Ive never commented on youtube but WELL DONE. Great for educators and artists alike.
thank you so much!!
Amazing job man! both the songwriting and the video are lovely to enjoy. Congrats and keep up the great work. You deserve soooo many more views
thanks so much, really appreciate it!
Def would have chosen the same album! The first one is iconic but the production on the second album is a more fletched out Bon Iver I feel like. Love the final result. Awesome job man!
could be interesting to try the first one too honestly, I have this odd feeling that it might end up being more difficult
Wow! That was an amazing video and song! I'll be buying your string library.
Love love and love mate 🇮🇳🫂💖🤗 thank you so much for providing us such informative tutorial keep it up 🤗💖✨
you're very welcome, thanks so much for watching!
Dude, this is so good!
thank you :)
Dude - that is phenomenal. You made it look waaaay too easy :) Fantastic, and I learned a lot...thanks for sharing
thanks so much, super glad to hear :)
Sir plz upload lesson on different vocal backgrounds effect ❤btw thank you u r an awesome artist
This is really inspiring. I need to be doing so much more. Big goals!
super glad you find it inspiring!
6:06 okay Angelo De Augustine
Damn dude you absolutely nailed it! I’ll follow your progress, looking forward seeing where you will be in a year or two! 🤩
thank you, I appreciate that a ton :)
awesome video
More vids like this pls, this is exactly what ive been searching for, I know it wont be the same probably since the reason this was good is because you love this style of music, but even branching into other genres could be hype. Love your work and the music sounds great!
thanks so much, I'll be doing one of these a month and the next few are planned already!
Well this is fantastic!!! Sublimely done, thank you. This deserves so many views ❤🎶
thank you, I appreciate it a ton :)
Do something like LANY Malibu night album (and vocals too)
Thanks for this brother, really gave me inspiration to get into the studio! Would love to see production like RY X ;) Keep on going man 🙏🏼
thanks so much, that’s a great suggestion! i did a cover of Berlin ages ago so it could be a lot of fun to run it back
Beautiful track, amazing tutorial and great video editing. What more could you want in a production vid haha
thank you so much, means a lot :)
this is AMAZING stuff! so glad i found your channel :)
Just liked and subscribed, thanks for the great video. It’d be amazing if you could do a follow up explaining the reverbs you used!
thanks so much! I use the plugin RAUM for like 95% of my reverbs. I'll try to include more mixing stuff in future videos
@@lucasfourniermusic Appreciate the response man!! Will check RAUM out. I own a bricasti, a raumzeitmaschine and various other hardware reverbs and here I am salivating over what reverb you used, and it’s a plugin! Just goes to show that it’s all about how you use it. Great job man 👍
oh wow! I've been looking for this style of breakdown of genre productions for a while now and nothing comes close to how well you've done this. Loved it. PLEASE continue to output more. Instant subbed.
so glad to hear! I'll be doing one of these roughly once a month -- Phoebe Bridgers is in the works right now :)
I love that you pulled back the curtain! Good stuff!
that's what we do here :) thanks so much!
Beautiful work there mate
thanks so much!
Dope video man, im producing some similar sheit rn
thanks so much, hope it's going well!
Beautiful!! TY
you're welcome!
Really well done and thanks for breaking down your process. Excellent writing and musicianship!
thank you so much!
Ur super talented!! Sounds amazing
this video is so good thank you
you're very welcome!
Please continue to bring more videos like this, your teaching is amazing
I appreciate that a ton! Will be posting these breakdown videos as regularly as I can
Great vid! Would looooove a 22, A Million breakdown but I wonder if the writing and production style of that album might be too specific and idiosyncratic to be able to replicate. But would love to see you take a stab at it!
thanks so much! I'd love to have a go at it one day, it's my favourite album. Honestly don't know if I'm a good enough producer for it to be honest, Bon Iver's last 2 albums feel almost impossible to emulate haha
Hands down my favorite video yet! This was really awesome to see, pure magic brother!
thanks so much man :)
Thank you so much for making this, so hard to find videos like this, could you do: jp saxe, or adam melchor?
sorry I'm like 3 months late lol but I've become obsessed with JP Saxe recently so would love to do one for him soon, stay tuned!
Wow, nice! Good tips and nice track at the end. I am very inspired by this to finally start making that album I've been thinking about making for a while now. Cheers! :)
I'm so glad to hear that, thanks so much and good luck!
Excellent work. Subscribed. Keep going!
thank you :)
Amazing! any plans to do one for their 22, A million style prosuction?
Great job on this. Your efficiency is really impressive (in addition to all the musical talents!)
thanks so much! I always feel very inefficient haha but glad to see it doesn't come across that way
Awesome video! Do you pan the guitars and vocals all the way to the right and left or just partly?
great work!!
thank you!
What great talent and video mate! really enjoyed every second! when you talked about the all the gang vocals, how did you pan them? did you double the backvocals also?? how to know , how much to pan , which side and do we double??? :))
thanks so much! my answer might not be satisfying haha but honestly I just wing it. I *usually* double-track every layer and pan one right one left, but it's a lot more random in terms of how far I pan them each side. I recommend just listening to the song's arrangement and asking yourself whether you want the vocals to sound wide or narrow, then pan accordingly!
this is sickk and the video is very well made! excited to keep watching your content
Thanks a ton, really appreciate it!
sounds a lot like S.Carey too, of course! great content btw
I LOVE THIS VIDEO! just what Ive been looking for!
Any tips on building the chord progression?
thanks so much! I wish I included more of the songwriting part in the video.
Bon Iver chord progressions are usually really simple, at their core it's usually just something like I-vi-ii-IV. But what makes them sound so unique is that they always use pedal tones (held notes between chords that end up creating interesting inversions/extensions). On a guitar just try leaving a few strings open on every chord to create high pedal tones. And on piano just add a drone of a single note or chord that plays the whole time.
Happy songwriting!
Super helpful dude, thank you!
great job man
thank you!
Love it
thank you!
Very well done! You really nailed the vibe on this production, and it's truly one of those 'sum of all parts' scenarios.
thanks so much!
my fellow fournier! sounds great!!! thanks for the vid
ayyy thanks so much!
Dig it… rock that spacey spread magic!
thank you!!
Do you have any videos where you go in to depth on how you edit / treat your vocals? Amazing work!
thanks so much! actually just posted one :)
can you do a video on how to mix vocals cuz i really liked the way it sounds
I'll add to the list! But for now if you watch my recreation of The National I actually show my whole vocal chain, but it's a very different style to this one.
@@lucasfourniermusicthanks man
Great track. The vocal chain I would be very interested in.
I wanted to include the mixing but the video was getting so long haha! will definitely dive into this kind of thing more in future videos
@@lucasfourniermusic Excellent. Looking forward to it. You are amazingly talented.
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Very very well done! I’ve watched the video several times and everything it blows my mind! I have a question, do you offer any FL studio templates? All color coded and what not?
thanks so much! this is something I've been meaning to do for a while. I'll make them available for free on my gumroad page soon once I get a chance to touch all my templates up!
Fantastic!
thank you!
Great job! Thank You!
Thanks so much!
New Subscriber. Excellent job! Would you tell us your effects and mixing steps? I am trying to sound like that but my mixing is awful.
there's a lot to show but I'll try to make more mixing-focused videos in the future! in general though, remember that a good mix starts with good recordings/a good production. I know that's *eye roll* advice but it's true - especially in this acoustic genre things should be sounding great even without any significant processing
Wow. Great job! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Love how you articulate the way the double-tracked vocal is heard from both sides, as opposed to "one" source. Such a distinctive feature of Vernon's production. Gonna now attempt to try something similar... with 8 channels on my Ableton Lite 😅
Absolutely! Sufjan Stevens did it first but Justin really put his own spin on it and popularized it a ton. Now it's just become a staple of indie folk!
Great video, thank you. What reverb did you use on the vocals? Specific plug-in, or if it’s native to FL (which I haven’t got), any guidance… hall.. plate… chamber…. Digital versus iR. Any words on that would be much appreciated, thanks!
Raum by Native Instruments! It's like 99% of my reverbs along with Little Plate haha
@@lucasfourniermusic Great! Thanks for the reply : ) I got Raum as part of a Kontact bundle, but haven't really dug into it yet, feeling inspired to do so now. Thanks again
Hey man, great video! I have a question, tho. How do you record your DAW screen while also capturing the sound? For some reason when I try to do it I can only record the screen, and I'm pretty sure it's because I'm using an audio interface. I assume you use one too!
oh dude, this PLAGUED me for ages! I use a plugin called ReaStream (native to Reaper but you can get it on any DAW) to route audio to OBS studio. It can be a bit CPU intensive sometimes but does the trick for me now!
@@lucasfourniermusic thanks!!
Thanks! Subscribed.
you're very welcome!
this is so insanely good! you should try doing a novo amor track next!
Definitely will do this in the future! won't be right away though since it's so similar to Bon Iver, but this is my favourite style to make
Nice job.
thank you!
Well done
thank you!
Amazing video. Love that you use FL studio, I do as well. More Bon Iver please! Also, you look like John Mayer.
FL Studio is honestly so underrated. I've never gotten the John Mayer comparison before but it's a huge compliment haha so thank you!
super helpful video!!
so glad to hear!
The video was super helpful man! what plugins did you have on the Accoustic guitar sends tho?
sorry this is a super late reply lol but I rarely do much processing on my acoustic guitars - I think for this one just a touch of compression and an EQ or 2 taking away some highs to make it a bit less bright
nice song! good job
thank you :)
Nicely done! I really enjoyed the video and was inspired to go make some music - you earned yourself two subs from this! :)
that makes me so happy to hear!
Very very good!!!!!
thank you!
You got it. Brushes on cardboard sealed my decision to subscribe.
haha it works so well! I do that on a solid 50% of the songs I produce. Thanks so much for subscribing!
Good job
thank you!
Thank you! I have a question about mixing the double vocals - if you tune them with auto tune and fix the timing aren’t you going to have some phasing issues? I feel like I have some issues (listening back in mono) not sure how to fix it.. any tips? Thanks 🙏🏻
sorry this is an insanely late reply lol but I would be really surprised if you got phase issues - even if you're fixing tuning and timing, two seperate recordings should be different enough to avoid any masking. That being said if you think you're having problems maybe try turning down the speed of the autotune to make everything a bit looser.
@@lucasfourniermusic thank you haha I appreciate it! I will try that next time I use this method :) Great video btw!
Great video man! This might be a stupid question and maybe I missed it in the video but with multiple takes of vocals, do you line them up perfectly or do you just make sure they’re close enough? (Hope that makes sense)
whatever sounds good! in For Emma Forever Ago Justin's vocals are super raw sounding and misaligned, and it sounds fantastic. But if you're going for more of a Sufjan Stevens sound with that chorusing effect, the 2 vocals are nearly identical. Just depends on what you're going for!
Great job! One thing I was hoping you'd address was reverb on the vocals. What kinds of reverb plugins did you use and did you use more than one reverb on the main vocal and the background vocals?
I use the plugin Raum for 95% of my reverbs, for this project it was a medium sized spring reverb. Usually I do one reverb send for my lead and another for my backing vocals, but since they kind of all blend together in this style I just did one here in the final mix, it seemed to fit better!
@@lucasfourniermusic Good to know! Thanks for the quick reply :)
@@lucasfourniermusic Also, your website isn't working properly. I tried to check out your string sample pack and keep getting an error message: Error code: PR_END_OF_FILE_ERROR
so damn good! keep making videos and music!
thank you :)
Sounds exactly like Novo Amor and Hailaker
Are the acoustics hard L&R and vocals 40% L&R? cool video
yeah right around there! thanks so much for watching :)
well done. subbed!
thank you!!
Hi where can i write to you if i want strings on my song ?
e-mail me! ldioriofournier@gmail.com
incidentally this is also an even better tutorial for how to make a s. carey song
absolutely! I've spent more hours listening to his solo stuff than any other artist. Would love to do a dedicated S. Carey episode but probably just wouldn't get the clicks unfortunately :(
do you have any fl vocal chain or guitar chain presets?
Great tutorial! But I always feel like these bon iver tutorials are way more similar to other artists like novo amor and s. Carey's solo work instead of bon iver. Probably because of the breathy vocals and it being too smooth or something?
I actually agree - I think it's because Justin's voice is a big part of Bon Iver's sonic signature. I've never met a singer that has Justin's tone, and I know for sure my own voice is more similar to Sean/Ali. I do think the production on this track is most similar to Bon Iver's self-titled album (I pretty much copied Holocene lol), so I bet if you replaced my voice with AI Justin or something it would sound 10x more like Bon Iver.
Can I ask, why would you record in stereo to then pan left and record again in stereo to pan right. Is that not then mono?
you'll get a slightly different tonal quality, since even when you pan it fully to one side you're hearing a combination of the tone of both microphones, since one is pointing more towards the sound hole, and the other towards the fret board. Also, if you pan it partially and not fully you'll still get a bit of stereoization. That being said, for the way I used it here, it probably made a very tiny difference in the overall sound. It was just easier for me since my mics are always set up in stereo!
@@lucasfourniermusic thanks for the reply and love the song. Can I ask what’s your acoustic guitar. I’m just getting into recording and I’m going to buy a better acoustic guitar and a pair of mic’s for it and I want it to sound decent
@@theclinkmusic In this video I'm using some kind of Yamaha, I'm not even sure the exact model haha but they're a great brand for acoustic guitars. I'd recommend just going to a music store and trying out a few different instruments to test out the sound. And as for mics, definitely recommend a stereo pair of small diaphragm condensers like the KSM137s I used in this video!