renting a stage is also currently ridiculou$ - don't get me wrong I love this stuff but to execute on this level - not really 'Indie' budget friendly yet. Loved the vid tho
Yeah, the tech currently is still not at the point that it's accessible (while still being at a good quality level). There are plenty of VP stages that are more "affordable" but they typically have lower end LED panels, and it shows in the shots when you can tell they they're shooting against panels. At this point, it's generally better to still just shoot with a real location or traditional green screen to get more photorealistic results.
@@thewrongvine I did both Greenscreen and LED for my short. It's true all the stages were super expensive until I found the right place. It's less thank $4K/day with a decent sized wall and still quality panels. it's more about the way you light and the practical set design that sells it.
when i first read about mandolorian using virtual production i was blown away, keeping the 3d perspective with a live feed from your camera is truely revalutionary, and it helps the actors out instead of looking at endless green they have matching lighting and the actual scene
It would be nice to see how to Set Up the Camera Tracker with the camera, e.g. the technical configuration etc, that's what I'm interested in, so i can myself practice at home. Thanks. ❤❤❤🎉
Hi. Do you make this virtual production all in unreal engine? Have you heard of aximmetry? It's a great software to put your unreal sceneries and make virtual production.
What do you think how Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning will affect virtual production industry. I mean who needs to rent expensive led wall rooms, when AI can color match background and foreground of a greenscreen video much faster in the future. Who needs level designers if you can give a cheaply blocked out cameramotion tracked background render to a video to video ai and tell it to "make the squares canyon mountains at sunset" Those questions are very exaggurated admitedly. I myself am starting to go into the virtual production direction. But I do not know if in all this chaos this will have future. The company I work in already starts saying "we can make cash with vp for the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe after that we do not need it anymore"
I think it already has! This man is brilliant and has to be around 70 or older and look at his intro and outro plus his loving moving background ..he could’ve laid someone to do it but I’m seeing it all over YT now even with new channel content creators so …either they’re paying someone or using the app I’m looking for currently! I’ve used about 6 so far and not happy with the rendering and I don’t want any of or Mac software - mobile only ! Any suggestions ? @hytalegermany1095
Oh man, wish I never was hit by a massive stroke .. I really could have used this for my re-recording & releases after 30+ years off grid. Amazing world :)
Amazing receipt! Instead using an led panel would a backsite projected (like in cinema, but the projector is in front of the of the audience behind the canvas) unreal 5 scene also work, is there something in the field? I think this could be much cheaper and more easier to transport.
Hey mate. Do you have any thoughts/videos for film makers who don’t have access to volumes. Who might be using a green screen in their garage, or a Samsung upright projector etc? Loving your content!
Same basics. Good lighting. Sometimes, or all the time, it doesn't have to be "motivated lighting," from a source in the scenario, like he said. Just make it look good.
So how did the channel “3d Terramidia” do his “Alien Meditation 4K” with Unreal Engine? Looks like he filmed it right there in Brazil…I can download an Ai detection app but he already admitted he used this Ai software …I’m just disappointed as I thought it was an app we could render a quick intro vid or background like Dr. Michael Salla has on his channel. Anyone know about that ? I’ve tried about 6 and not happy with any so far … @JoshToonen
Yo! I cover this exact workflow in-depth in the Unreal to Nuke Masterclass unrealforvfx.com/nuke You can match the camera and align your world using Nuke and roundtrip between the two!
Without having used one, the LED stage feels very limited in that you can't really compose with the floor or ceiling in-shot. At the expense of realtime light interaction and compositing, a green screen stage could fill this need better, no? These shots look incredible and your channel has been a huge help as I learn about virtual production. Thanks!
so where would someone get these screens? Lol I feel like this is the big thing to making this look real. I know there's way to do this without the screens and I guess masking yourself out, but I don't think it'll come out the same
Idk what Dr. Michael Salla uses but I love his short intro and outro vids and his backgrounds like what he used this am in his webinar. He probably pays someone to make it but then again maybe not …I see lots like that all over now .
Hi, Please provide suggestions of my below concern Is there any career for coders or software developer to make a successful career in virtual production or visual effects?
Yes, virtual productions are fascinating and will be integrated in many productions. However, i wouldn't say it's the future of vfx in filmmaking. Take a look how they made the "creator". Totally different approach. There are also so many tools coming out like the soon released ai in premiere pro that allows you to replace objects in the background etc. But sure, learn virtual production its fun. All i am saying is, we don't know anything about the future of filmmaking with all those new tools that are popping up constantly. I just hope filmmaking will not be entirely replaced by AI "filmmaking".
Turn your material into a Masked material, now you can import a black and white image to for the silhouette. The eyes are just an image of 2 dots plugged into the emissive
It’s still way too complex and costly for indie filmmakers. Practical effects still have their place but would love to see much simpler processes, and tracker built in the cameras. We’ll get there eventually.
So you need a $100k minimum for a 12ft limited led wall and with loads of restrictions, unable to shoot floor or ceilings and then a studio to do that in with $50k of motion tracking gear and $50 computer hardware to start your almost $1/4m down!! I think green screen is a much better way and that’s why Hollywood is NOT using virtual production. Green screen compositing is where it is tried and tested. We as very small indie producers don’t need to leap frog Hollywood we just need to do what they’ve been doing for the last 20 years Sorry Mr Toonan you just showed the problems with your course. It’s worthless!!
I just want a background for a 30 second intro video like Dr. Michael Salla and Elena Danaan use and I’m pretty sure they didn’t have someone use this method as you can do it yourself with an app! It’s crazy for someone to spend all that when it can rendered with Ai. I’ve just tried about 6 different ones the past month and wasn’t happy with any which is why I’m here. Any suggestions for that ? If you take a peek at MS intro vid you’ll see what I mean … Best wishes in all your endeavors 🌈🙏🏻🦋😎🌎
Or... you could just make the cinematic in Unreal Engine... and not fuss with needing equipment... Great video. But this workflow is not exactly accessible to the general creator. Even if you found a stage to rent, it could take months to years to save up the funds. So unless you got someone who is willing to help pay the costs... or manage a successful fundraiser. I do not see this method being reliable to the more average creator.
from every production ive seen using this tech , they all looked inferiour to previous techniques using compositing , not just the graphics but also what can be done with camera and animation. its really just aplicable for standard camera shots. overhyped fad if you ask me
All shots still look extremely fake and have that CGI feel. The issue is that many VFX artists have become so accustomed to the CGI look and feel, that to them it looks photo realistic.
How to make a horror film in unreal:
Step 1: Have a 800.000$ led wall
renting a stage is also currently ridiculou$ - don't get me wrong I love this stuff but to execute on this level - not really 'Indie' budget friendly yet. Loved the vid tho
Yeah, the tech currently is still not at the point that it's accessible (while still being at a good quality level). There are plenty of VP stages that are more "affordable" but they typically have lower end LED panels, and it shows in the shots when you can tell they they're shooting against panels.
At this point, it's generally better to still just shoot with a real location or traditional green screen to get more photorealistic results.
@@thewrongvine I did both Greenscreen and LED for my short. It's true all the stages were super expensive until I found the right place. It's less thank $4K/day with a decent sized wall and still quality panels. it's more about the way you light and the practical set design that sells it.
@@oberdoofus there are affordable stages if you get a good Virtual production producer who can negotiate. I got my stage for less than $4k/day.
very true...this is not budget friendly@@oberdoofus
His acting is superb, give him a Golden Raspberry already
when i first read about mandolorian using virtual production i was blown away, keeping the 3d perspective with a live feed from your camera is truely revalutionary, and it helps the actors out instead of looking at endless green they have matching lighting and the actual scene
This is next level! I'm also a filmmaker based in Vancouver, huge fan of your work!
*Serj Tankian dropping that heat!!* 🔥🔥🔥
I thought it was making of a SOAD vid lol
It would be nice to see how to Set Up the Camera Tracker with the camera, e.g. the technical configuration etc, that's what I'm interested in, so i can myself practice at home. Thanks. ❤❤❤🎉
So much interesting concepts has been share here, thansk for that !
Can't wait to start the course!
Hi. Do you make this virtual production all in unreal engine? Have you heard of aximmetry? It's a great software to put your unreal sceneries and make virtual production.
What do you think how Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning will affect virtual production industry.
I mean who needs to rent expensive led wall rooms, when AI can color match background and foreground of a greenscreen video much faster in the future.
Who needs level designers if you can give a cheaply blocked out cameramotion tracked background render to a video to video ai and tell it to "make the squares canyon mountains at sunset"
Those questions are very exaggurated admitedly. I myself am starting to go into the virtual production direction. But I do not know if in all this chaos this will have future. The company I work in already starts saying "we can make cash with vp for the next 5 to 10 years. Maybe after that we do not need it anymore"
I think it already has! This man is brilliant and has to be around 70 or older and look at his intro and outro plus his loving moving background ..he could’ve laid someone to do it but I’m seeing it all over YT now even with new channel content creators so …either they’re paying someone or using the app I’m looking for currently! I’ve used about 6 so far and not happy with the rendering and I don’t want any of or Mac software - mobile only !
Any suggestions ?
@hytalegermany1095
Actors and directors, etc, can learn to utilize VP well. Same with AI, although guild negotiations might keep them separated for now. Idk.
Oh man, wish I never was hit by a massive stroke .. I really could have used this for my re-recording & releases after 30+ years off grid. Amazing world :)
Wow. This looks awesome and you explained everything so wonderfully. Future of cinema is unreal!❤🔥👌
Amazing!, now what cost this little Led Screen ;) and could the Resolution be higher , and how large was the led panel ?
Please do indepth tutorial how you did the fire and demons and also the hallway moving spiral direction! Great job!!!!!!
Nice video, whats is your PC specs for Virtual Production?
Amazing receipt! Instead using an led panel would a backsite projected (like in cinema, but the projector is in front of the of the audience behind the canvas) unreal 5 scene also work, is there something in the field? I think this could be much cheaper and more easier to transport.
Hey mate. Do you have any thoughts/videos for film makers who don’t have access to volumes. Who might be using a green screen in their garage, or a Samsung upright projector etc?
Loving your content!
Same basics. Good lighting. Sometimes, or all the time, it doesn't have to be "motivated lighting," from a source in the scenario, like he said. Just make it look good.
are the light cards you used something you created in UE and animated in sequencer? Or are they something separate? Thx
Unreal has their own plug-in for it, but there's tons of ways to make them
So how did the channel “3d Terramidia” do his “Alien Meditation 4K” with Unreal Engine? Looks like he filmed it right there in Brazil…I can download an Ai detection app but he already admitted he used this Ai software …I’m just disappointed as I thought it was an app we could render a quick intro vid or background like Dr. Michael Salla has on his channel.
Anyone know about that ? I’ve tried about 6 and not happy with any so far …
@JoshToonen
Finishing those shots in Nuke with a bit of compositing and color correction will make a huge difference but i understand the video is not about that.
This.Is.So.COOL! Amazing! Thank you for thoroughly explaining everything.
Dope stuff man! Keep it up!
I love the little joke at the start where you said you worked on dungeons and dragons but showed Godzilla haha I was like "Wait what?" hahaha
I seriously want to work with you man! Amazing stuff!
you mean to say ...virtual production is only for camera movement shots in association with 3d plates thrown on the screen????
Can you go into depth ? And how to make blueprints
Were i find background videos for use with Chroma Key for music Videos ?
This isn’t a “how-to”. It’s a “how you would”.
Lol yeah. “Step 1: get access to this multimillionaire technology”
i'm curious about the corridor twist, is a spline based BP or PCG?... thanks for share!
Spline based!
Can you mix real footage in the background and 3d objects? how do you match the camera?
Yo! I cover this exact workflow in-depth in the Unreal to Nuke Masterclass unrealforvfx.com/nuke
You can match the camera and align your world using Nuke and roundtrip between the two!
What camera tracking system did you use for this?
Without having used one, the LED stage feels very limited in that you can't really compose with the floor or ceiling in-shot. At the expense of realtime light interaction and compositing, a green screen stage could fill this need better, no? These shots look incredible and your channel has been a huge help as I learn about virtual production. Thanks!
Ok ok I’m subscribed already no need to show off 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
this was a great insight Thank you for the content
so where would someone get these screens? Lol I feel like this is the big thing to making this look real. I know there's way to do this without the screens and I guess masking yourself out, but I don't think it'll come out the same
Renting one out, otherwise I prefer to make films with characters entirely in Unreal instead of filming Green Screen, depends on the project though!
Idk what Dr. Michael Salla uses but I love his short intro and outro vids and his backgrounds like what he used this am in his webinar. He probably pays someone to make it but then again maybe not …I see lots like that all over now .
Search "video walls"
there's a company called Blizzard (just knew about them) that sells a single panel for 1500$ each. $uper expensive lmfao.
Hi,
Please provide suggestions of my below concern
Is there any career for coders or software developer to make a successful career in virtual production or visual effects?
Amazing!!! Thanks for this!!
just need 700000 to rent out a sound stage for the day
Yes, virtual productions are fascinating and will be integrated in many productions. However, i wouldn't say it's the future of vfx in filmmaking. Take a look how they made the "creator". Totally different approach. There are also so many tools coming out like the soon released ai in premiere pro that allows you to replace objects in the background etc. But sure, learn virtual production its fun. All i am saying is, we don't know anything about the future of filmmaking with all those new tools that are popping up constantly. I just hope filmmaking will not be entirely replaced by AI "filmmaking".
What benq monitor is that?
Where is the "horror film"?
Nick is a cool guy
I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM IN DAY LIGHT SCENE SHOOT .....
Can you make a tutorial on making the sillouette figures? Been trying to do that for months and no tutorials are dumb enough for me 😭
Turn your material into a Masked material, now you can import a black and white image to for the silhouette. The eyes are just an image of 2 dots plugged into the emissive
thanks man
Im slow, i thought the thumbnail was System of a Down Making a video using the Unreal engine LOL
It’s still way too complex and costly for indie filmmakers. Practical effects still have their place but would love to see much simpler processes, and tracker built in the cameras. We’ll get there eventually.
Need to find a theme park to make a horror movie. I tried unreal but i didnt learn. Need to check it out again
Im trying to buy your course, i sent you a email, if you have time to see please
Why that guy looks like Seth Rollins from wwe
So you need a $100k minimum for a 12ft limited led wall and with loads of restrictions, unable to shoot floor or ceilings and then a studio to do that in with $50k of motion tracking gear and $50 computer hardware to start your almost $1/4m down!!
I think green screen is a much better way and that’s why Hollywood is NOT using virtual production.
Green screen compositing is where it is tried and tested. We as very small indie producers don’t need to leap frog Hollywood we just need to do what they’ve been doing for the last 20 years
Sorry Mr Toonan you just showed the problems with your course. It’s worthless!!
I just want a background for a 30 second intro video like Dr. Michael Salla and Elena Danaan use and I’m pretty sure they didn’t have someone use this method as you can do it yourself with an app! It’s crazy for someone to spend all that when it can rendered with Ai. I’ve just tried about 6 different ones the past month and wasn’t happy with any which is why I’m here.
Any suggestions for that ? If you take a peek at MS intro vid you’ll see what I mean …
Best wishes in all your endeavors 🌈🙏🏻🦋😎🌎
Ich finde das es schlimm ist das man alles nur noch digital filmt. Es verliert dann seine Charme, egal wie gut es gemacht ist.
Or... you could just make the cinematic in Unreal Engine... and not fuss with needing equipment...
Great video. But this workflow is not exactly accessible to the general creator. Even if you found a stage to rent, it could take months to years to save up the funds.
So unless you got someone who is willing to help pay the costs... or manage a successful fundraiser. I do not see this method being reliable to the more average creator.
too expensive darling
ireally hope the industry moves away fromLED screen volumes. Extremely limiting and hard to get access to
never pull off in real life? i think your imagination is a little too constrainted.
This guy talk too much
from every production ive seen using this tech , they all looked inferiour to previous techniques using compositing , not just the graphics but also what can be done with camera and animation. its really just aplicable for standard camera shots. overhyped fad if you ask me
Now this is crazy 😅😅😅❤️🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
All shots still look extremely fake and have that CGI feel. The issue is that many VFX artists have become so accustomed to the CGI look and feel, that to them it looks photo realistic.
If a big series like Mandalorian can use it and succeed then it must also be good enough for many viewers.