For the record this was partially Bitt3rSteel's idea. I made this as there is only so many times I can comment skill issue or the guide still works before I realize that it's probably best that I make another video, with this video I can now send people over here if it happens again. I don't expect this to absolutely perfect or all encompassing, nothing is. But you know.
In my last few games, he even died before the election each time. I get why his ingame date of death is random since irl he died in March of '36, but it's still annoying to have this kind of RNG this early.
I one did a Hellas playthrough with the intent of appointing Aristotle Onassis as leader the moment Venizelos dies I kid you not, he's alive even in 1941 when I got invaded by the Axis, and last I checked he is still alive in the save, I just havent played it in a while bc its a different version
The problem I’ve had about this guide is that when I tried this strat, turkey sent 6 divisons into Athens that my units couldn’t break. Also my forces were very overstretched as the Turks did multiple landings on my ports.
@@BubblesZest I still capped them both times but it wasn't the fast job that is the point of the strategy, because it takes ages to grind them down enough to encircle the port on the border
I've been using his previous Byzantium guide and the only problem I had was being to slow on stopping the forces pushing into Athens after Turkey naval invades. Which is a me problem, not the guide. It's been a fantastic guide.
the thing i hate about playing greece is that turkey always somehow enters into alliance with another major power. This overstretches my divisions and demolishes my fleets and air force, and it's usually game over around '40
I tried it and the turkey ai created balkan entenente with yugoslavia and romania ( it was histrorical ) is this a glitch or should this happen if you drag the war out for war economy and other stuff.
İt might be because you are doing something ahistorical so ai can say "fine, two can play this game" and goes balkan entente intead of reconfigure focus
In one point, while you are fighting the turks, research marines and try to get them with them. You will have time until 1939 (in unhistorical) before they join any faction (mostly the german empire entente in my experience) or create a faction with bulgaria+marines and that should work
0.boost popularity of democracy in romania after you get 80 percent in romania from begining of game1.annex italians before They join axis and annex albania by order 66 2.justify on bulgaria and build real army(not with shit 66 order divisions)and after on yugoslavia 3.join to axis and annex vichy from border on italian border 4. build and Connect supply in africa and after you have some supply joijn a war 5.romania is in alies if you boost popularity or They are with no fraction,so you can easily annex them
Enjoy your videos, unfortunately Romania guarantees Turkey now, this no longer works (tried it twice). Even with a NA pact with RoM they still DOW on me when I do same to Turkey. Any ideas?
Romania *always* guarantees Turkey. You can see them being called in at 4:20. Normally Romania doesn't even move units in, so it shouldn't be a problem. If they do, I have nothing for you. You'll have to find something.
when i try it they never land on athen and if they land on the harbors next to it this balkan country joins them and spams like 15 units into it and i lose.. what do i do wrong?
I like how a fascist dictator can make a large conquest and just let the country revert back to a republic and its business as usual like nothing ever happened.
Still doesn't work for me, my navy is not assigned to anything, but Turks refuse to naval invade anywhere half the time, and the other half of the time they do invade, but they keep unloading troops on the naval invasions even if I have complete naval superiority. ???
This is such a lie. When I do this they naval invade me through Corfu and my army is so unorganized that they cant do anything about it. DO A UPDATED VERSION!!!!
Thanks for your video! I'm in an alliance with the Axis right now and trying to form Byzantium... Bulgaria is in that alliance too and Germany gave them territories of my Greek Core regions... Without asking me!! lol. We managed to beat Turkey but Germany is holding Istanbul now and Bulgarians my core region in former Greece, so I miss 2 out of 5 regions. Really sucks lol
Works perfectly fine for me, I've done it over 5 times now and its worked every time because I'm just testing to see how to min max Greece. If you let Turkey have Athens they will throw everything there to die or continue to naval invade Peloponnese and lose everything there instead. When Turkey has around 6-x amount of divisions left, move some of your garrison to the border at Edirne but not enough to ruin supplies. Turkey usually has around 4 units here, just force attack your way through to Istanbul and across the crossing. Funnel the rest of your troops across and the war is easily won around the start of 1938. If you want to min max even more, when Horror and Fear is completed justify on Bulgaria as well. Then RIGHT before you cap Turkey (I'm talking 99% cap) move enough units to the Bulgarian border so they can't take any free tiles and declare war. If you do this before annexing Turkey there will be no guarantees and now you have an easy path to take Bulgaria and let you take the form Byzantium decision to get the cores. With Bulgaria you can also attack into Romania now without having to form a faction with Bulgaria, and now you're basically strong enough to take on the Soviets alone or join the Axis to fight them.
![The MOST Underappreciated ROMAN PATH!? [HOI4]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/r13KmoHmXCM/mqdefault.jpg)
For the record this was partially Bitt3rSteel's idea.
I made this as there is only so many times I can comment skill issue or the guide still works before I realize that it's probably best that I make another video, with this video I can now send people over here if it happens again. I don't expect this to absolutely perfect or all encompassing, nothing is. But you know.
I had watched the old Byzantium video and it worked like a charm. Most of your video from at least a year ago work fine.
Thank you very much for the video, please do the following about the nationalfocus Norway in exile...
Bro when I try to encircle the turks and fight in combat everything is red and I can't win the combat and they get extra land :(
Bro got so tired of people saying that the byzantine guide was outdated that he return from the dead 💀
I’m amazed that somehow Venizelos lived until the coup by the Byzantines,unlike in most of my runs he dies after some weeks or months
In my last few games, he even died before the election each time. I get why his ingame date of death is random since irl he died in March of '36, but it's still annoying to have this kind of RNG this early.
I one did a Hellas playthrough with the intent of appointing Aristotle Onassis as leader the moment Venizelos dies
I kid you not, he's alive even in 1941 when I got invaded by the Axis, and last I checked he is still alive in the save, I just havent played it in a while bc its a different version
@@fernsong8558i think he lasts longer when he‘s a leader? same thing happened in my game
and meanwhile Metaxas surviving until the Berlin Wall Fall.......
hey, we missed you
The best hoi4 youtuber is back ! That's a miracle !
The problem I’ve had about this guide is that when I tried this strat, turkey sent 6 divisons into Athens that my units couldn’t break. Also my forces were very overstretched as the Turks did multiple landings on my ports.
The good old Warluigi empire.
Welcome back, we missed you!😄
Yay. A new bubbles zest video.
Glad to see you back
one time venizelos died before the election even happened in one of my saves.
dont work
I hope you and your doggo enjoyed the walk, take care
Bubbles I just tried it and Holy he'll it works, I even managed to get both bulgaria and yugoslavia.
Thanks For The Tutorial !
Yo this guide doesn’t work with the current version of Hoi4
Just write comments under any video saying "its not working anymore", so bubbles zest does a recap
Try to do Adolfus I of Byzantine Empire
Hey Bubbles, I wanted to know if your Byzantium guide is still good.
Had two goes at this and never got naval invaded so looks like it might be pretty restart intensive.
Hoi4 continues to work in mysterious ways. Ironically the only time this run was reloaded was because I retook Athens when I shouldn't have.
@@BubblesZest I still capped them both times but it wasn't the fast job that is the point of the strategy, because it takes ages to grind them down enough to encircle the port on the border
Good christ thank you for uploading this, i got so tired of people whining about how impossible Byzantium was
Bro remembered his password
I actually think it got easier since you can buy equipment you need
I've been using his previous Byzantium guide and the only problem I had was being to slow on stopping the forces pushing into Athens after Turkey naval invades. Which is a me problem, not the guide. It's been a fantastic guide.
The Carlists have risen up in literally every non-historical I've done
Listen to 5:21 closely.
@@BubblesZest I suddenly can't read anymore
Can you make a guide for restoring the Ottoman Empire and controlling all cores?
Do you still think the right opposition is the best soviet path with the consumer good changes?
the thing i hate about playing greece is that turkey always somehow enters into alliance with another major power. This overstretches my divisions and demolishes my fleets and air force, and it's usually game over around '40
I tried it and the turkey ai created balkan entenente with yugoslavia and romania ( it was histrorical ) is this a glitch or should this happen if you drag the war out for war economy and other stuff.
Idk, I've only see that happen once myself.
İt might be because you are doing something ahistorical so ai can say "fine, two can play this game" and goes balkan entente intead of reconfigure focus
Alright thanks 👍 Ill try another run@@BubblesZest
Hi what version of hoi4 is this bc mine doesn't have any of the decisions or national focuses. W vid tho❤
battle for the bosporus dlc
everytime i try this the turks just dont even try to naval invade me =(
why does romania always get military acces from turkey and just arrive with their entire army?
does this work for road to 56 mod because i dont have the option to put the king under house arrest
They keep invading at multiple places at once plssssss
how would you handle romania at this point?
They are weak just dont focus on mountain tiles
You can outproduce them.
Create faction with Bulgaria and slowly push, try to micro small pockets
In one point, while you are fighting the turks, research marines and try to get them with them. You will have time until 1939 (in unhistorical) before they join any faction (mostly the german empire entente in my experience) or create a faction with bulgaria+marines and that should work
Those it still work tho ?
My lawyer has advised me to give a vague non confirming answer.
But what do you do when Romania actually decides to help Turkey for once and sends half their army directly to Athens?
thanks for guide i try get to waluigi but in 1939 august romania join in axis
Your old video was more consistent than other contemporary ones.
What dlcs do you need for this
I thought you would at least do a norwegian war cabinet video . From the upload schedilue I assume you didn't like the new dlc.
Does Hatay join you in 1938 or does it remain part of French Syria?
Turkish need to do focus,so remain
But most people already know how to form Byzantium but how do you get the rest of your cores?
0.boost popularity of democracy in romania after you get 80 percent in romania from begining of game1.annex italians before They join axis and annex albania by order 66 2.justify on bulgaria and build real army(not with shit 66 order divisions)and after on yugoslavia 3.join to axis and annex vichy from border on italian border 4. build and Connect supply in africa and after you have some supply joijn a war 5.romania is in alies if you boost popularity or They are with no fraction,so you can easily annex them
And sorry i dont try it,but it probably works
Enjoy your videos, unfortunately Romania guarantees Turkey now, this no longer works (tried it twice). Even with a NA pact with RoM they still DOW on me when I do same to Turkey. Any ideas?
Romania *always* guarantees Turkey. You can see them being called in at 4:20.
Normally Romania doesn't even move units in, so it shouldn't be a problem. If they do, I have nothing for you. You'll have to find something.
@@BubblesZest thanks, I think I will try the other route of taking on the Bad Romeance achievement and thus achieving this as well.
what are you researching in the very beginning? im new and watching this video you didn’t complete construction 1 till 1937
thex fixed it. My troops comming to athens in 0000,1 sec
democratic Byzantium looks so gross :0
when i try it they never land on athen and if they land on the harbors next to it this balkan country joins them and spams like 15 units into it and i lose.. what do i do wrong?
What am i doing wrong man im following it and i fail everytime
they never navy invade me i dont understand
for me they laned in thesaloniki doesnt work at all
why no videos on the new DLC are you not a fan
this video ghad the dlc
why did they naval invade athens and central macedonia for me??????????
I like how a fascist dictator can make a large conquest and just let the country revert back to a republic and its business as usual like nothing ever happened.
Bro it doesn't work. They don't naval invade
The Romanians just flood into turkey?
what is the dlc?
Now do it against a human player playing Turkey.
hi bubbles zest missed u :D
Still doesn't work for me, my navy is not assigned to anything, but Turks refuse to naval invade anywhere half the time, and the other half of the time they do invade, but they keep unloading troops on the naval invasions even if I have complete naval superiority. ???
AI cheats with naval invasions you can only convoy raid them
its outdated now
This is such a lie. When I do this they naval invade me through Corfu and my army is so unorganized that they cant do anything about it. DO A UPDATED VERSION!!!!
The video literally says to adapt to wherever they may land. There's nothing to update.
How should I adapt?
Thanks for your video! I'm in an alliance with the Axis right now and trying to form Byzantium... Bulgaria is in that alliance too and Germany gave them territories of my Greek Core regions... Without asking me!! lol. We managed to beat Turkey but Germany is holding Istanbul now and Bulgarians my core region in former Greece, so I miss 2 out of 5 regions. Really sucks lol
you doing it wrong brobro
@@FishwicksREAL yea... I'm new to this so still gotta learn a lot
except your guide doesn't, tried it three days in a row, war with turkey lasted 7 years, they called allies, I got fucked.
Same
Works perfectly fine for me, I've done it over 5 times now and its worked every time because I'm just testing to see how to min max Greece.
If you let Turkey have Athens they will throw everything there to die or continue to naval invade Peloponnese and lose everything there instead. When Turkey has around 6-x amount of divisions left, move some of your garrison to the border at Edirne but not enough to ruin supplies. Turkey usually has around 4 units here, just force attack your way through to Istanbul and across the crossing. Funnel the rest of your troops across and the war is easily won around the start of 1938.
If you want to min max even more, when Horror and Fear is completed justify on Bulgaria as well. Then RIGHT before you cap Turkey (I'm talking 99% cap) move enough units to the Bulgarian border so they can't take any free tiles and declare war. If you do this before annexing Turkey there will be no guarantees and now you have an easy path to take Bulgaria and let you take the form Byzantium decision to get the cores. With Bulgaria you can also attack into Romania now without having to form a faction with Bulgaria, and now you're basically strong enough to take on the Soviets alone or join the Axis to fight them.
skill issue