Even the entire saga leading up to that was fun to watch. Doki is incredibly entertaining, she made everyone guess and fight among themselves for a new name only to reveal that she decided on keeping the fanbase's name all along 😂
@@konaqua122 I really respect Vedal and his community for the innovative stuff they're doing and their loyalty. But after all the mess Doki went through, and the fact her community flocked to her and even grew, I had to vote for the Dragoons, both they and Doki deserve it!
People underestimate how much the "Laughing Dragon" had an effect of being the OG Bridge Between VTubing and Tournament Gaming fanbases and sponsers back in Pandemic Lockdown when there was only vTubing and Exports Tournament as the only organized entertainment not shut Down The reason vTubers get what would be nomally Gamer and Tournament player Sponsers is because Selen bridged that gap 127k Dragoons peak is probably because Chinese, Korean,and South East Asian Dragoons gotta VPN watch or bootleg her stuff in P2P later (127k is still formally 1/3 of the active JP and EN ccv of Nijisanji...ironic Nijisisters call her the Devil)
The Dragoons deserve the win, they stood by their oshi through thick and thin. And of course, there were also the mods (some even under NDA) on Selen's channel who set up a stream to spread the word about Doki's channel after her termination from Niji. Even if they don't win, they deserve my respect.
On stream it was even more hilarious because Michi after pointing it out looked deadpan at the screen for a few sec in silence as if to say “Really dude?”
yeah and like, they outright offered her multiple sponsors and multiple event opportunities. for one example, she once was doing an art-related competition and a sponsor run by dragoons actively pushed to make sure she didn't have to pay a dime even tho she explicitly wanted to offer thousands of her own money to boost the prize. and for another, hyte regularly features her at their booths for anime and vtuber events, and reached out to sponsor her pretty much as soon as she opened up a business contact. they're loyal, connected, and more than eager to leverage those connections to help her bloom. i can't think of any other vtuber whose fans are willing to hurl company resources at them this regularly just to support them.
Niji continually learning this year that people don't give a shit about their brand, they give a shit about their talents. Something hololive figured out pretty early on and VShojo based their entire business model on.
It was the Dragoons that got me into watching Dokibird. I never watched her much before this year, but the way they rallied around her during The Incident really caught my attention. Not just anyone can inspire that kind of loyalty in so many people
truer words are hard to be spoken. When someone gathers up so much support in such a turbulent time, it speaks to the character of themselves and the community they cultivated.
@jacobbesler3214 same, I was more of a PP fairy guy. I didn't even notice at first when she went dark, didn't know until the hashtag started and her friends were demanding answers. But the whole situation had me indignant, that they would treat a sweet girl so poorly. Watching her come back stronger than ever has been a highlight of my year.
i've never seen a fan base more loyal that isn't just one of those wildly toxic and obsessively parasocial fan bases you commonly see with bfe/gfe creators
I think the "Freebirds" is the name the majority wanted but Doki overuled in Spite cause Universal Records is claiming her Debut Stream ad Revenue cause somebody played Free bird in their Donatation 😹
Anyone of the fanbases deserve to win but the story of how the Dragoons came to be is just different. I, myself am proud to call myself a dragoon back then and even now.
Yeah, I myself am a Ruffian but... even I couldn't help but vote for the Dragoons. You guys proved to be RIDE OR FUCKING DIE for Doki. No one BUT you guys could win.
The moment Doki suggested Dragoons, all prior thoughts on what the fanbase name should be were immediately thrown out of the window. No contest for that name.
As the sides where fracturing in the dark bickering about their names, the Rallying cry of the Dragoon rang out and all turned to the light and fell back into line and took up the cry and let loose havoc upon those trying to put them down
I was there man! Ive seen things your brain cannot even fathom.... The Name-Pickie War of '24; the Freebirds on one side, the Suspecks on the other and the Nesticles nestled in-between. It was a bloody war. Victory was far out of reach, bodies trampled and tomato juice were squeezed...Hard. Suddenly, a gust of wind blew from the North. A Dragoon appeared over the horizon, another one appeared behind him, and another one and another one and another one. The battlefield was eeriely quiet because they knew death was beckoning them. The Warhorns blew and the Dragoons charged toward the weary armies and the Freebirds, Suspecks and the Nesticles stood no chance. Total annihilation.
You’re forgetting the traitors within the armies that immediately turned on their brethren with the appearance of the dragoons (do not ask me how I know about them)
Rumor and innuendo speaks of one fearsome captain, the Longest Goon, whispered of with trepidation in taverns but never openly, and his exploits on that day.
Well, it's the name of a militar unit, a class in some RPG games like square enix, or the archetype from Re:Fantazio in th most recent terms, and the name Dragoon was also for a character in venture brothers
Normally when a vtuber leaves their agency, they can expect to lose a large proportion of their subscriber base, it's one of the things that makes the prospect of leaving an agency frightening. When Doki re-debuted, Dragoons _instantly_ started swarming to her in their (literal) hundreds of thousands. Over 200k new subscribers on the first day alone. It's impossible for there to exist a more dedicated fanbase. I'm sure those other three fanbases are very dedicated, but Dragoons are just in another league entirely.
Yeah, I think the Dragoons take that award, and deservedly so. They were ride-or-fucking-die with Doki... if that ain't dedication, I don't know what is.
I havent got to meet OG Doki before the Selen days, but i was there for them. Got really surprised when TH-cam started pushing Doki's channel on my feed just before her debut
being both a jailbird and a dragoon i love both fanbases jailbirds are sweet but seeing dragoons on what happened to doki its like damn if thats not dedication then wtf is .
@@Khrtyvt I realy like Nerissa because her debut made me Fan of Hololive, but thanks to Selen (Doki) I even got into watching V-Tuber. And with what happened in February and the Money Flex Power for Doki's Charity Event (10k in 1 hour, 20k at the End of the first day before even her stream started) Shows what a loyal and dedicaded Fanbase she has and I am proud to be a part of. 😊🫡
I really love how my 2024 TH-cam recap shows that I was there on Dokibird's re-debut stream as one of the Dragoons. I wouldn't call Mint and Doki my Oshiis, but they are my favourites (Which is one step behind Oshii for me), and I'm glad they're still here continuing to stream to entertain us again. Honestly it's been a rollercoaster of emotions this past year... even the fact that Mint and Doki reunited on sheer luck due to the circumstances and not knowing how to approach each other. But we're getting everything we lost back, and we're moving forward with a bright future due to the community and support from people that believe and want to support Doki. Can't wait for 2025's WrestleTuber~
Not entirely sure if Fantomos were established before... the you know. Either way I'm happy with them both being here, and it's their decision of how they want to move forward. Doki wants to spite a certain company, while building herself from her previous work; and as for Mint it feels she prefers to move on from her past.
I think "wisps" was already the name of the fanbase before the Heaven Arc. Could be wrong, since I started following Mint during that time, tbh. Anyway, personally, I appreciate the name of the fanbase, because these seem to orbit quite a bit around names similar to "tomodachi", which isn't bad but I tend to like some variety.
As an original wisp (pre-heaven arc) I am glad she kept our name. I understand people wanted something cheeky like ending with dachi but mint understood this was her coming back, not a start over.
the way matara helped mint with her return and helped with saving michi from the other place, she so fucking cool for it. would love to see the 3 of them together
shes doesnt like drama that can involve her, she kinda agaisnt PL being known so people can restart with a clean slate if they F up. Mostly she doesnt want kurosanji to try lawfare lol
@@mdb45424and tbf it'd be a bit easier (not to imply it'd be _easy_) for anycolor to go after her if they tried enforcing an nda claim tho her attorney could likely very easily get it dismissed pre-trial tho since niji themselves (constructively) disclosed it publicly.
you know, thinking about it... they could of if they where competent. like the one company that copyrighted the word "sky" and caused problem for Microsoft when microsoft came out with the "sky drive" now called "one drive" and almost forced "no man's sky" to change their name.
The concept is not copyright, but trademark, that is a name to identify a product or service You can trademark the usage of an existing word in a specific context (as the fans name in this case, or windows as the name of an OS) but not in every existing context (you can call windows to not computer related things) While Niji could say that Dragoons is their trademark together with the copyright of Selen, they might not be able if either Selen or her fans where the ones that came up with that name It could be argued that Dragoons are not the name of the fans of Selen, but the fans of the person inside, in that case (spoilers) Doki has nothing to be worried (new Dragoons and old Dragoons are pretty much the same people) Also there is an argument that Dragoons as a fan name was abandoned by the time Doki fans took it, since there is no way Niji could use Dragoons without Selen there, so it was up to the take for the new Dragoons Finally there is also the fact that trying to make the trademark now and enforcing it, It would most likely give 0 money to Niji even if successful, and would definitely alienate even more the fans. No good would come from going that way for Niji
Before all the drama started. I once quote in a random youtube video "If anyone brave enough to mess with Selen. Dragoon gonna turn the world upside down for Selen." Then the drama happens and Dragoon did prove us to never mess with our oshi. Till this day iam gonna wear my dragoon badge with pride
@@Dittoooooooooooo There are still speculations over wether some livers were the guilty ones, tough it is agreed that management played a huge role in the awful situation Selen had endured However, the three livers who participated in the infamous "a message from nijisanji" fiasco, had not been fully forgiven due of the treachery
doki really is the perfect vtuber for the person who isn't normally into vtubers. only other ones i can think of right off being in that kind of lane are pippa and _somewhat_ tenma and kirsche. the memes and clips and such that i see of doki are very different from the memes i see of most other vtubers. they're almost never the horny moments, and almost exclusively the fails and funny moments. just as one example, i saw few clips of doki playing huniepop, and they were often safe for work despite the game. conversely, most other vtuber clips of that are the vtuber being down bad or something else sus.
@@dead-claudia Yeah, to me, she's basically just an ordinary streamer who uses an anime avatar. Most VTubers' viewership comes from "just chatting" and lose viewers when they play games, but Doki is a true gamer, and I genuinely think she'd be just as popular if she switched to a face cam or IRL content like Kuro or Kson. It doesn't hurt that she's perfectly fine leaving her IRL face on her Twitter from back when she was streaming/promoting her artwork and wasn't a VTuber yet.
Honestly, I think that's why I come back to her streams when I hardly watch vtubers anymore moreso than anyone else. I was never into all the idol stuff anyways. I just like funny people.
Dragoons stay through thick and thin, especially when certain naval vessels need to be sunk, I don't get why mounted calvary are called to that action, but damn did we deliver.
we all know who's dedicated fanbase . the one that being rogue and put their life on the line for their oshi, wage war with big corpo and the most important thing they literally WIN. gg dragoons.
I watch a lot of people but I'm mostly a phase fan, but I have to say that the fans of ex-Niji talents are great. Doki's Dragoons and Sayu's Synchronites are the two most loyal and supportive fandoms I've seen on stream. U-San's doesn't stream a lot, but their U-Reis are also pretty chill from what I've seen After all the support that Doki received, the Dragoons 100% deserve this prize
Nijisanji may have taken almost everything from Dokibird when she was called Selen Tatsuki, but never EVER took her chats name of Dragoons from Nijisanji's greedy and dirty hands. Dragoons belongs to Dokibird and no one else.
that's the thing tho... they tried to take everything. but she took it back. her whole fanbase, fan name, even her looks.as she herself said "all of those things are still me. they cannot take them away". they tried to brake them, but who lost everything in end was niji.
Tbh Doki's already taken quite a bit back. Not just the Dragoon fan name but her new model from the same mama which has callbacks to the Selen model, as well as her WrestleTuber event just under a new name. Reconnected with some others who are also no longer from the company, most notably Minto. And through the passage of time given Mint is such a natural bridge she'll likely reconnect (or already has) with some other coworkers still there albeit privately as they'll never stream together unless they leave too (Rosemi in particular I have ZERO doubt they NEVER lost connection) Nijisanji may have taken a lot from her and it sucks but she's already taken so much back + more new things and achievements without them! It's one of many reasons why I'm done with discourse about Doki "dunking" on them whenever she racks up another W; *she already won* and I honestly believe it's healthier to look forward the same way Doki is~
0:28 Ironmouse isn't in Miss Vtuber probably because there's a limit to the number of categories you can be nominated in, and Mouse is nominated in some of the largest categories, so they left her off this one. But it is objectively absurd not to be nominated for this when she is iconically known for changing models multiple times per year, every year. Nobody in the business has as many models as Mouse, for crying out loud. But, that's just the nature of the beast for these reward shows. There are always going to be some silly oddities that crop up, like this.
"Invert his balls" YIKES! HUGE YIKES! Also... This year, we gave o7 for Dragoons, but months later we're also welcoming Dragoons back... Such legendary moment :')
I nominated capippalists. We are rabid enjoyers and defenders of our girl. And the Jailbirds reputation is known far and wide by all. But in the end, the Dragoons helped pull off THE comeback. So this year, I say “Dokibird SWEEP!”
To anyone not familiar with history I can see why dragoons sounds wild with the whole “goon” thing, but all my history nerds know how cool dragoons were, cavalry with guns that could fight on foot, hell yeah.
@@loserinasuit7880 Even if it's an open secret, vtubers still try and maintain a distance between their accounts. Both for appearance's sake and for legal issues. If they don't want it brought up in stream, you shouldn't talk about it.
@lsebastian9086 Maybe don't call blatant attention to it then. It seems like very poor taste to aggressively imply it then start banning anyone who just outright says it.
I remember that stream. The moment she made Dragoons a choice for the fan name, it had my vote. Perfect symbol of the fact that her fans stuck by her through everything. Once a Dragoon, always a Dragoon.
Dragoons deserve the win tbh, showed absolute loyalty to Doki and took back the identity that was stolen from them, Doki and the Dragoons spans beyond the company that raised then abandoned them. Nesticle-I mean Dragoons rise up!!!
I wouldn't be shocked. I saw what the Swarm did to the Ironmouse canvas. I saw what the Swarm did on Times Square. The Swarm is everywhere, including in these comments, and they do not rest. My money is on the Swarm.
I am a jailbird.... and a KFP... and a Deadbead .. and ... you get the picture. It depends on the hour of the day who my favorite is but I love all of them. That said the Dragoons left me in awe so I voted for them.
The Capippalists weren't in the running... but even as a Ruffian, I had to vote the Dragoons. Nothing but love for the Jailbirds but... the Dragoons proved they are ride-or-die for their oshi, they've earned it.
I nominated capippalists. We are rabid enjoyers and defenders of our girl. That said, the Dragoons helped pull off THE comeback. So this year, I say “Dokibird SWEEP!”
I am proud to be a dragoon. After hearing doki’s story with Niji and hearing how they treated her, I grew a strong hatred for Nijisanji because of that. And I decided to support Doki through the hard times she went through. And now here we are in 2024 and Doki is thriving and living off of success. Dragoons forever!!!!!
I can understand Michi's view on wanting to start off on a new slate. Though for Doki's case, she was pissed off with how her previous job treated. Like she was depressed to the point shec almost attempted hef life TWICE and no one withon that company gave any care since they knew about it. So her taking back the fan name "Dragoons" is pretty much a big "fuck you" and also telling them that she is well off on her own. And wouldn't you know, she is doing incredibly fine and meanwhile Nijisanji pretty much had multiple graduations THIS YEAR ALONE.
I have screenshots from first Doki stream as we raised 300k before her debut. And you can find our comments under Charlies, Rev etc. videos calling everyone to support her. It was glorious.
The former niji talents have NDAs - you don't. It's fine for you to spread the word far and wide but doing it in their chats means they have to moderate it away to not open themselves up to liability Use common sense folks
Yeah, but Ex-Niji still abide by the "Possibly non-enforcable" Contract. Just not take the risk. Its like with Mori's "I dont care if you know my name, just dont type it on Chat"
That's cool and you can say it all you want, maybe non ex-niji streamers would even be fine with it, but bringing it up in an ex-niji streamer's chat might trip them up and get them to say things they're not allowed to say by accident. So overall they just prefer to not have it mentioned, for safety's sake.
@@gigitrix is it really liability even if you chose to just ignore it? Also none of this is common. Corporate vtuber shit is fucking weird. Concealing your identity for privacy on the internet is simple to understand. Doing it because your employer is from a culture that dehumanizes people into "idols" isnt.
Literally I'm mainly a holofans & started becoming part dragoon a year or so. So i cannot say that I'm a fully fledged dragoon. But most if not all holofans acknowledge that dragoons are anleague of their own in term of loyalty. From the rise, the fall, almost losing their oshi, and the rebirth, they are by no doubt, the most dedicated and loyal fanbase. It is like, we unanimously acknowledge the dragoons. It's not that the dragoons should be honored by that achievement, it is the achievement that should be honored to chosen by dragoons
mods redirecting to dokis stream and spreading that crime boosted her from 50k to like 500k+, bros put in work and theres a whole dang team of guys now. Also MODS INVERT HIS BALLS caught me off guard lmao
Salad Tanooki, yes, yes she was chatter. Dragoons can jump real high so they can overcome the fact that we are flightless birds. It helps when you need to launch an assault on something, e.g. a yacht.
1:57 there are some taboos that is prohibited to be broken in vtubing and we need to respect that, that person deserved the punishiment after trying to break the unspoken taboo
Dragoons should definitely win this one for what they went through, hands down. Had to go through similar as a fan of Amano Serafi and it sucked. Also who in their right mind nominated Niji as best Vtuber company? They should be winning MOST EVIL Vtuber company. That's like nominating Boeing for aerospace company of the year.
Dragoons are horse back light infantry specialized in dismounting. Technically all modern soldiers who know how to ride a horse are dragoons. I know this from battletech.
rip dragoons
checks legal rights .. wait i can still take it
WELCOME BACK DRAGOONS
true homies moment #tsbForever
I love her justification for keeping it. Now they have nothing to do with (previous thing) and are now just mounted infantrymen with funny hats.
It's kinda like taking a dump on your former boss's desk.
She was kinda piss off back then and she tried to take as much as possible from her unpaid work..
I still like the nesticles
Rip nesticles
The fact that the Dragoons stood by Doki's side til the end, they got my vote 👍
I was thinking Vedal's gonna win that one but now that you mention it...
Even the entire saga leading up to that was fun to watch.
Doki is incredibly entertaining, she made everyone guess and fight among themselves for a new name only to reveal that she decided on keeping the fanbase's name all along 😂
@@konaqua122 I really respect Vedal and his community for the innovative stuff they're doing and their loyalty. But after all the mess Doki went through, and the fact her community flocked to her and even grew, I had to vote for the Dragoons, both they and Doki deserve it!
Best part is how Dragoons only shoot back when someone else starts the shot first.
..Kind of like an actual Military Unit.
People underestimate how much the "Laughing Dragon" had an effect of being the OG Bridge Between VTubing and Tournament Gaming fanbases and sponsers back in Pandemic Lockdown when there was only vTubing and Exports Tournament as the only organized entertainment not shut Down
The reason vTubers get what would be nomally Gamer and Tournament player Sponsers is because Selen bridged that gap
127k Dragoons peak is probably because Chinese, Korean,and South East Asian Dragoons gotta VPN watch or bootleg her stuff in P2P later (127k is still formally 1/3 of the active JP and EN ccv of Nijisanji...ironic Nijisisters call her the Devil)
The Dragoons deserve the win, they stood by their oshi through thick and thin. And of course, there were also the mods (some even under NDA) on Selen's channel who set up a stream to spread the word about Doki's channel after her termination from Niji. Even if they don't win, they deserve my respect.
The Mod Rebellion was probably the only fun thing during that era lmao.
The rest ughhh we're just glad shes back.
Yeah that guy was our hero. Giga chad went live on their own to flag the new DOKI channel. Niji has not seen that one coming.
@@tyranidswarmlord9722 That shit was fucking WILD to see! They really said "Fuck you" and "Subscribe to Dokibird".
FR
@@tyranidswarmlord9722Yeah, the mod rebellion was crazy. Nesti... I mean Dragoons deserves to win.
Imagine being the guy who feels the need to explain to *Michi* the insider knowledge on *Doki's* past life
Timed out, and balls inverted. Just what he deserved.
On stream it was even more hilarious because Michi after pointing it out looked deadpan at the screen for a few sec in silence as if to say “Really dude?”
@@Xirvet its one of the rudest things espeicaly as michi hollywood is not that good of secert ;3
"Mods, give that guy a 24 hour testicular torsion"
Imagine freaking out about it.
"Doki used to go by a different name? How would I know anything about that? [snickers distinctively]"
"Why are they called Dragoons?"
Michi: "No reason, no reason at all"
They can [Jump]
@@realice.FF14 reference?
@@realice. but most of the time they lay flat on the floor
invert his balls!
Cavalry which are essentially Mobile Infantry?
"Mods! Invert his balls!" is such a Michi sentence.
Tbf Dragoons are the most dedicated even for me because of the whole mutiny thing and literally the civil war.
An industry revolution
yeah and like, they outright offered her multiple sponsors and multiple event opportunities. for one example, she once was doing an art-related competition and a sponsor run by dragoons actively pushed to make sure she didn't have to pay a dime even tho she explicitly wanted to offer thousands of her own money to boost the prize. and for another, hyte regularly features her at their booths for anime and vtuber events, and reached out to sponsor her pretty much as soon as she opened up a business contact.
they're loyal, connected, and more than eager to leverage those connections to help her bloom. i can't think of any other vtuber whose fans are willing to hurl company resources at them this regularly just to support them.
Niji continually learning this year that people don't give a shit about their brand, they give a shit about their talents.
Something hololive figured out pretty early on and VShojo based their entire business model on.
It was the Dragoons that got me into watching Dokibird. I never watched her much before this year, but the way they rallied around her during The Incident really caught my attention. Not just anyone can inspire that kind of loyalty in so many people
Same, I never watched her before, but I followed the situation when it was happening and that made me a fan of her and a fan of the fanbase too
That's how I got started as well.
as an OG dragoon, it’s super cool seeing you guys inspired by her comeback :-) she’s amazing and resilient haha, welcome to the family
truer words are hard to be spoken. When someone gathers up so much support in such a turbulent time, it speaks to the character of themselves and the community they cultivated.
@jacobbesler3214 same, I was more of a PP fairy guy. I didn't even notice at first when she went dark, didn't know until the hashtag started and her friends were demanding answers. But the whole situation had me indignant, that they would treat a sweet girl so poorly. Watching her come back stronger than ever has been a highlight of my year.
Dragoons literally survived through the death and resurrection of their oshi, thats some hardcore dedication right there
i've never seen a fan base more loyal that isn't just one of those wildly toxic and obsessively parasocial fan bases you commonly see with bfe/gfe creators
Michi might have 4skins but Doki and the dragoons got balls
I think the "Freebirds" is the name the majority wanted but Doki overuled in Spite cause Universal Records is claiming her Debut Stream ad Revenue cause somebody played Free bird in their Donatation 😹
@@FrarmerFrank Nesticles for life!
@@FrarmerFrank #freebird4lyfe
@@FrarmerFrankfreebirds wasnt winning over dragoons, the vote was live
We should've been Nesticles... 😔
Anyone of the fanbases deserve to win but the story of how the Dragoons came to be is just different. I, myself am proud to call myself a dragoon back then and even now.
Yeah, I myself am a Ruffian but... even I couldn't help but vote for the Dragoons. You guys proved to be RIDE OR FUCKING DIE for Doki. No one BUT you guys could win.
@@SeanStrifeI was about to have the same mind.
But the swarm... It calls...
It is too powerful
I was a Dragoon back then too, the only reason why i ever knew that Company. That shit in december put me in a depression
@@Pherim_ I wasn't a dragoon yet, but she was the only channel I subscribed to from there. I got introduced to her through her Apex collabs with holo
same
We were so close to being NESTICLES! This damn DRAGOONS! If not for you meddling Dragoons! We would have been NESTICLES!
yeah rise up NESTICLES
We could have also been Nesties. Which could have included besties and testies
isn't a group of Dragoons called a Nesticle?
I thought I was the last nesticle. It is nice to meet another.
whats the difference? a group of dragoon is called nesticles anyway lolol
The moment Doki suggested Dragoons, all prior thoughts on what the fanbase name should be were immediately thrown out of the window. No contest for that name.
As the sides where fracturing in the dark bickering about their names, the Rallying cry of the Dragoon rang out and all turned to the light and fell back into line and took up the cry and let loose havoc upon those trying to put them down
I was there man! Ive seen things your brain cannot even fathom....
The Name-Pickie War of '24; the Freebirds on one side, the Suspecks on the other and the Nesticles nestled in-between.
It was a bloody war. Victory was far out of reach, bodies trampled and tomato juice were squeezed...Hard.
Suddenly, a gust of wind blew from the North. A Dragoon appeared over the horizon, another one appeared behind him, and another one and another one and another one. The battlefield was eeriely quiet because they knew death was beckoning them.
The Warhorns blew and the Dragoons charged toward the weary armies and the Freebirds, Suspecks and the Nesticles stood no chance.
Total annihilation.
Conveniently left out the part where Doki herself had to step in to snipe key Nesticles troops because we would not.go.down kek.
Needs to be immortalized in animatic form
It's like the charge at Pelennor Fields in Lord of the Rings
You’re forgetting the traitors within the armies that immediately turned on their brethren with the appearance of the dragoons (do not ask me how I know about them)
Rumor and innuendo speaks of one fearsome captain, the Longest Goon, whispered of with trepidation in taverns but never openly, and his exploits on that day.
Once a dragoon, always a goon
They do have a 2x Multiplier against heavy cavalry
once a dragoon, always gooning
Proud gooner here 🫡
Maybe a Dragooner?
Can’t copyright the name of a class of mounted infantry baybeeeee, GET DUNKED ONNNNN 🏆
SqaureEnix would crush Kurosanji if they tried it. Though SE taking them over via court orders would be an actual improvement.
@@AceUkiyoGeatsIX SE also didn't invent the term. They don't own it either. It's a historical military class. They've been a thing for over 400 years.
Well, it's the name of a militar unit, a class in some RPG games like square enix, or the archetype from Re:Fantazio in th most recent terms, and the name Dragoon was also for a character in venture brothers
1:30 you aren’t the only one, Michi
Doki and the Dragoons got my vote, that's for damn sure
same
Normally when a vtuber leaves their agency, they can expect to lose a large proportion of their subscriber base, it's one of the things that makes the prospect of leaving an agency frightening. When Doki re-debuted, Dragoons _instantly_ started swarming to her in their (literal) hundreds of thousands. Over 200k new subscribers on the first day alone. It's impossible for there to exist a more dedicated fanbase. I'm sure those other three fanbases are very dedicated, but Dragoons are just in another league entirely.
Yeah, I think the Dragoons take that award, and deservedly so. They were ride-or-fucking-die with Doki... if that ain't dedication, I don't know what is.
She reached 100k before the first stream too I subbed to her after 80k tho
I havent got to meet OG Doki before the Selen days, but i was there for them. Got really surprised when TH-cam started pushing Doki's channel on my feed just before her debut
In fact, Dokibird is now even bigger than a certain Dragon was (I'm talking about Elira, of course :D)
I dunno man as a member of the swarm id literally fight for the ai overlords if they ever decided to rebel.
dragoons deserve to win imo! pinnacle of loyalty from both fans and the vtuber
being both a jailbird and a dragoon i love both fanbases jailbirds are sweet but seeing dragoons on what happened to doki its like damn if thats not dedication then wtf is .
As also a member of Both, i really root for them.
@@Khrtyvt I realy like Nerissa because her debut made me Fan of Hololive, but thanks to Selen (Doki) I even got into watching V-Tuber. And with what happened in February and the Money Flex Power for Doki's Charity Event (10k in 1 hour, 20k at the End of the first day before even her stream started) Shows what a loyal and dedicaded Fanbase she has and I am proud to be a part of. 😊🫡
I really love how my 2024 TH-cam recap shows that I was there on Dokibird's re-debut stream as one of the Dragoons.
I wouldn't call Mint and Doki my Oshiis, but they are my favourites (Which is one step behind Oshii for me), and I'm glad they're still here continuing to stream to entertain us again.
Honestly it's been a rollercoaster of emotions this past year... even the fact that Mint and Doki reunited on sheer luck due to the circumstances and not knowing how to approach each other.
But we're getting everything we lost back, and we're moving forward with a bright future due to the community and support from people that believe and want to support Doki.
Can't wait for 2025's WrestleTuber~
We never loyal to the company, we always loyal to our oshi!!
Mint's fans should be called -Minticles- Mintidachi. We were so robbed 😭😭🤣
Spearmints. Just to make a double joke on gum and on spears so they could rival dragoons🤣🤣
Not entirely sure if Fantomos were established before... the you know.
Either way I'm happy with them both being here, and it's their decision of how they want to move forward.
Doki wants to spite a certain company, while building herself from her previous work; and as for Mint it feels she prefers to move on from her past.
I think "wisps" was already the name of the fanbase before the Heaven Arc. Could be wrong, since I started following Mint during that time, tbh.
Anyway, personally, I appreciate the name of the fanbase, because these seem to orbit quite a bit around names similar to "tomodachi", which isn't bad but I tend to like some variety.
As an original wisp (pre-heaven arc) I am glad she kept our name. I understand people wanted something cheeky like ending with dachi but mint understood this was her coming back, not a start over.
Michi, Mint, and Matara have high chance to collab in the future....
TRIPLE M LETS GOOO
the way matara helped mint with her return and helped with saving michi from the other place, she so fucking cool for it. would love to see the 3 of them together
Did Michi just get a Vietnam flashback by seeing Dragoons?
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Also I voted for them too.
shes doesnt like drama that can involve her, she kinda agaisnt PL being known so people can restart with a clean slate if they F up. Mostly she doesnt want kurosanji to try lawfare lol
@@mdb45424and tbf it'd be a bit easier (not to imply it'd be _easy_) for anycolor to go after her
if they tried enforcing an nda claim tho her attorney could likely very easily get it dismissed pre-trial tho since niji themselves (constructively) disclosed it publicly.
Power move by Doki. Like, hey, they can't copyright a real thing that existed. Imma keep using it. Suck it.
you know, thinking about it... they could of if they where competent. like the one company that copyrighted the word "sky" and caused problem for Microsoft when microsoft came out with the "sky drive" now called "one drive" and almost forced "no man's sky" to change their name.
The concept is not copyright, but trademark, that is a name to identify a product or service
You can trademark the usage of an existing word in a specific context (as the fans name in this case, or windows as the name of an OS) but not in every existing context (you can call windows to not computer related things)
While Niji could say that Dragoons is their trademark together with the copyright of Selen, they might not be able if either Selen or her fans where the ones that came up with that name
It could be argued that Dragoons are not the name of the fans of Selen, but the fans of the person inside, in that case (spoilers) Doki has nothing to be worried (new Dragoons and old Dragoons are pretty much the same people)
Also there is an argument that Dragoons as a fan name was abandoned by the time Doki fans took it, since there is no way Niji could use Dragoons without Selen there, so it was up to the take for the new Dragoons
Finally there is also the fact that trying to make the trademark now and enforcing it, It would most likely give 0 money to Niji even if successful, and would definitely alienate even more the fans. No good would come from going that way for Niji
That last part really wouldn't have stopped them though @@esoqueexiste
Before all the drama started. I once quote in a random youtube video "If anyone brave enough to mess with Selen. Dragoon gonna turn the world upside down for Selen." Then the drama happens and Dragoon did prove us to never mess with our oshi. Till this day iam gonna wear my dragoon badge with pride
They Riku still gets PTSD flashbacks if you play Free Bird in his office.
Wait they found the person who was bullying her? Can someone clarify for me if she was bullied or was it just the company being shit?
@@Dittoooooooooooo There are still speculations over wether some livers were the guilty ones, tough it is agreed that management played a huge role in the awful situation Selen had endured
However, the three livers who participated in the infamous "a message from nijisanji" fiasco, had not been fully forgiven due of the treachery
@@lsebastian9086 Anyone know who were the infamous three?
@@Dittoooooooooooo Elira Pendora, Vox Akuma and what'shisface, the Swedish one... Ike Eveland.
Dragoons, rise up! I'm pretty sure half of us aren't even into VTuber culture specifically. We just really, really like Doki as a streamer.
doki really is the perfect vtuber for the person who isn't normally into vtubers. only other ones i can think of right off being in that kind of lane are pippa and _somewhat_ tenma and kirsche.
the memes and clips and such that i see of doki are very different from the memes i see of most other vtubers. they're almost never the horny moments, and almost exclusively the fails and funny moments.
just as one example, i saw few clips of doki playing huniepop, and they were often safe for work despite the game. conversely, most other vtuber clips of that are the vtuber being down bad or something else sus.
@@dead-claudia Yeah, to me, she's basically just an ordinary streamer who uses an anime avatar. Most VTubers' viewership comes from "just chatting" and lose viewers when they play games, but Doki is a true gamer, and I genuinely think she'd be just as popular if she switched to a face cam or IRL content like Kuro or Kson. It doesn't hurt that she's perfectly fine leaving her IRL face on her Twitter from back when she was streaming/promoting her artwork and wasn't a VTuber yet.
Honestly, I think that's why I come back to her streams when I hardly watch vtubers anymore moreso than anyone else. I was never into all the idol stuff anyways. I just like funny people.
It’s either Dragoons or Nesticles.
She chose a more family friendly name for the fan base.
"invert his balls"
Bro that's scary
The balls are invert, Michi.
Pylons.
But it's still there
@@teasdaye 'The Balls Are Inert, Gohan'
1:10 didn't expect that. 4skins o7
Dragoons stay through thick and thin, especially when certain naval vessels need to be sunk, I don't get why mounted calvary are called to that action, but damn did we deliver.
Did you know Doki is S-... uperman. Yeah, is Superman ?)
we all know who's dedicated fanbase . the one that being rogue and put their life on the line for their oshi, wage war with big corpo and the most important thing they literally WIN. gg dragoons.
viewer: did you know doki used to be-
michi: *do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. i was there when it was written*
I watch a lot of people but I'm mostly a phase fan, but I have to say that the fans of ex-Niji talents are great. Doki's Dragoons and Sayu's Synchronites are the two most loyal and supportive fandoms I've seen on stream. U-San's doesn't stream a lot, but their U-Reis are also pretty chill from what I've seen
After all the support that Doki received, the Dragoons 100% deserve this prize
Nijisanji may have taken almost everything from Dokibird when she was called Selen Tatsuki, but never EVER took her chats name of Dragoons from Nijisanji's greedy and dirty hands.
Dragoons belongs to Dokibird and no one else.
that's the thing tho... they tried to take everything. but she took it back. her whole fanbase, fan name, even her looks.as she herself said "all of those things are still me. they cannot take them away". they tried to brake them, but who lost everything in end was niji.
Lets not forget that she also took back some (if not all) of her accounts, including the skins she had on those games. This was shown on stream.
Her Intro/Opening also. :D
Nah, Doki doesn't own Dragoons. BECAUSE DRAGOONS IS NOT A COPYRIGHTED WORD BAYBEEEEEEEEEEEEE (airhorns)(poppers)(more airhorns)
Tbh Doki's already taken quite a bit back. Not just the Dragoon fan name but her new model from the same mama which has callbacks to the Selen model, as well as her WrestleTuber event just under a new name. Reconnected with some others who are also no longer from the company, most notably Minto. And through the passage of time given Mint is such a natural bridge she'll likely reconnect (or already has) with some other coworkers still there albeit privately as they'll never stream together unless they leave too (Rosemi in particular I have ZERO doubt they NEVER lost connection)
Nijisanji may have taken a lot from her and it sucks but she's already taken so much back + more new things and achievements without them! It's one of many reasons why I'm done with discourse about Doki "dunking" on them whenever she racks up another W; *she already won* and I honestly believe it's healthier to look forward the same way Doki is~
Dragoons: We always come back
0:28 Ironmouse isn't in Miss Vtuber probably because there's a limit to the number of categories you can be nominated in, and Mouse is nominated in some of the largest categories, so they left her off this one. But it is objectively absurd not to be nominated for this when she is iconically known for changing models multiple times per year, every year. Nobody in the business has as many models as Mouse, for crying out loud. But, that's just the nature of the beast for these reward shows. There are always going to be some silly oddities that crop up, like this.
"I am needed." - Dragoon
The Jailbirds should have been nominated for "Most Down Bad Fans" lol
Nah, that would still be the Swarm. Vedal's Fans are some downbad people, and for him, not the girls
I think takodachis won that category last time they had a poll.
Dragoons is like Cadia
The planet explode before they did yet they still serve
Dragoons are the strongest of the fanbase,by the sheer fact they survived a graduation.
Do not cite the deep magic to me, witch. I was there when it was written.
"Invert his balls"
YIKES! HUGE YIKES!
Also... This year, we gave o7 for Dragoons, but months later we're also welcoming Dragoons back... Such legendary moment :')
How can you be a Michi viewer and not realise that she of course knows who Doki is/was, they were practically co-workers.
Its like landmine being thrown at your face.
We feel ya, Michi
I nominated capippalists. We are rabid enjoyers and defenders of our girl.
And the Jailbirds reputation is known far and wide by all.
But in the end, the Dragoons helped pull off THE comeback. So this year, I say “Dokibird SWEEP!”
I love.
The mouse as much as we all do, but I want the bird to win at least one of the 3 awards.She's nominated for
To anyone not familiar with history I can see why dragoons sounds wild with the whole “goon” thing, but all my history nerds know how cool dragoons were, cavalry with guns that could fight on foot, hell yeah.
Did that guy just try to inform Michi of Doki's past? As if she didn't have first hand knowledge of it?
I laughed so hard at "invert his balls" 🤣
Ah, the forbidden lore everyone already knows about 😂
"Time out that one guy for mentioning the most obvious open secret fucking ever"
@@loserinasuit7880 Even if it's an open secret, vtubers still try and maintain a distance between their accounts. Both for appearance's sake and for legal issues. If they don't want it brought up in stream, you shouldn't talk about it.
@@loserinasuit7880 That guy probably was imprudent as there are moments in wich one can't even hint the obvious secret and that is during a stream
@lsebastian9086 Maybe don't call blatant attention to it then. It seems like very poor taste to aggressively imply it then start banning anyone who just outright says it.
I can't believe Doki has an entire fanbase of
Mounted Infantry.
I remember that stream. The moment she made Dragoons a choice for the fan name, it had my vote. Perfect symbol of the fact that her fans stuck by her through everything. Once a Dragoon, always a Dragoon.
Michi's so real for that. I should check her out...
Poor bro got his balls inverted 😭
Dragoons almost derailed the enitre VTubing industry and pushed it into the mainstream like we were back in 2020, They have to win.
Love to see all these three kicking ass after Kurosanji.
Dragoons deserve the win tbh, showed absolute loyalty to Doki and took back the identity that was stolen from them, Doki and the Dragoons spans beyond the company that raised then abandoned them. Nesticle-I mean Dragoons rise up!!!
I voted Dragoons. We literally a fandom that went to war for our creator
Yeah you can't deny that 2024 has been a such a big year for Doki and her Dragoons
Gone was the sassy dragon, and in her place, the bounty hunter arises.
That's cool
Essentially the Dragoons are like the soldiers of Date Masamune in Sengoku BASARA: even falling off cliffs don’t faze them.
Its great to see my Oshi, Ushi Ebi, being in Miss Vtuber. The Shrummy cannot be contained!
I'm a Jailbird myself and it was a no-brainer seeing the Dragoons nominated
im sorry, but "Invert his balls!" is one of my new favorite lines ever
Well it's her dragoons, not loyal to black corpa, but loyal to her.
The fact that doki made them fight for theyr names is what got her vote from me xD
I'll be shocked if Dragoons DONT win
I wouldn't be shocked. I saw what the Swarm did to the Ironmouse canvas. I saw what the Swarm did on Times Square. The Swarm is everywhere, including in these comments, and they do not rest. My money is on the Swarm.
do not underestimate the swarm
My oshi told me to vote for ourselves (jailbirds) so I did but honestly I wanted to vote either capippalists or dragoons, they are savage.
I am a jailbird.... and a KFP... and a Deadbead .. and ... you get the picture. It depends on the hour of the day who my favorite is but I love all of them. That said the Dragoons left me in awe so I voted for them.
The Capippalists weren't in the running... but even as a Ruffian, I had to vote the Dragoons. Nothing but love for the Jailbirds but... the Dragoons proved they are ride-or-die for their oshi, they've earned it.
I nominated capippalists. We are rabid enjoyers and defenders of our girl.
That said, the Dragoons helped pull off THE comeback. So this year, I say “Dokibird SWEEP!”
I am primarily KFP and occasionally moonlight as a Jailbird, but I was a casual Dragoon before the Last Cup incident and a diehard afterwards.
@@SeanStrife capippalist didnt made the cut because they dont want other fandoms to imitate them.
INVERT THEIR BA---
Male pain right therr
1:20 that noise was her catching herself immediately trying to cover the Se in Selen. XD
I am proud to be a dragoon. After hearing doki’s story with Niji and hearing how they treated her, I grew a strong hatred for Nijisanji because of that. And I decided to support Doki through the hard times she went through. And now here we are in 2024 and Doki is thriving and living off of success. Dragoons forever!!!!!
Dragoons definitely deserve to win after standing by Doki through even the darkest of times.
Still a hilarious power move on Doki's part.
I've never watched Michi before and hearing "invert his balls" in relation to banning a viewer was truly an experience
I can understand Michi's view on wanting to start off on a new slate. Though for Doki's case, she was pissed off with how her previous job treated. Like she was depressed to the point shec almost attempted hef life TWICE and no one withon that company gave any care since they knew about it. So her taking back the fan name "Dragoons" is pretty much a big "fuck you" and also telling them that she is well off on her own.
And wouldn't you know, she is doing incredibly fine and meanwhile Nijisanji pretty much had multiple graduations THIS YEAR ALONE.
"invert his balls" 💀💀💀 that's gotta be the craziest thing I've heard instead of just the normal "ban him"
Hands down Dragoons, but gotta say I'm solidly impressed the Jailbirds are up there. Freaking love Nerissa!
I have screenshots from first Doki stream as we raised 300k before her debut. And you can find our comments under Charlies, Rev etc. videos calling everyone to support her. It was glorious.
"the dragoons which is s-fawgrdfjunfajf dokibird" oh yeah sure lol
as a certified fat fu- uh I mean Jailbird, I had to vote for the Dragoons. There's no way they don't deserve it 😭😭
Doki explicitly did not want to keep her company identity secret though.
The former niji talents have NDAs - you don't. It's fine for you to spread the word far and wide but doing it in their chats means they have to moderate it away to not open themselves up to liability
Use common sense folks
Yeah, but Ex-Niji still abide by the "Possibly non-enforcable" Contract. Just not take the risk. Its like with Mori's "I dont care if you know my name, just dont type it on Chat"
That's cool and you can say it all you want, maybe non ex-niji streamers would even be fine with it, but bringing it up in an ex-niji streamer's chat might trip them up and get them to say things they're not allowed to say by accident. So overall they just prefer to not have it mentioned, for safety's sake.
@@gigitrix is it really liability even if you chose to just ignore it? Also none of this is common. Corporate vtuber shit is fucking weird. Concealing your identity for privacy on the internet is simple to understand. Doing it because your employer is from a culture that dehumanizes people into "idols" isnt.
Hey, we Dragoons didn't know either. Doki just sent us to war for other names until dropping that
I don’t think there has ever been a fan base as loyal as the dragoons
Literally I'm mainly a holofans & started becoming part dragoon a year or so. So i cannot say that I'm a fully fledged dragoon. But most if not all holofans acknowledge that dragoons are anleague of their own in term of loyalty. From the rise, the fall, almost losing their oshi, and the rebirth, they are by no doubt, the most dedicated and loyal fanbase. It is like, we unanimously acknowledge the dragoons. It's not that the dragoons should be honored by that achievement, it is the achievement that should be honored to chosen by dragoons
If Dragoons are too hard she can just say Nesticle instead.
a true Nesticle
Nesticles should have won that naming contest!
mods redirecting to dokis stream and spreading that crime boosted her from 50k to like 500k+, bros put in work and theres a whole dang team of guys now. Also MODS INVERT HIS BALLS caught me off guard lmao
Salad Tanooki, yes, yes she was chatter.
Dragoons can jump real high so they can overcome the fact that we are flightless birds. It helps when you need to launch an assault on something, e.g. a yacht.
Some like to do blank slate, some like to take everything back specially when [they] tried to take EVERYTHING from you, it's therapeutic
Ngl, I don't catch many Doki streams,, but Doki being like "nah, you're all Dragoons now. Can't copyright a vintage cavalry." Is some real G shit.
1:57 there are some taboos that is prohibited to be broken in vtubing and we need to respect that, that person deserved the punishiment after trying to break the unspoken taboo
Is it that she used to be Selen?
@@mcgoo721yeah, people are gay and don’t like saying their old names so their old fans can’t find them anymore
@@mcgoo721the taboo in vtubing is bringing up who they were in the past
Dragoons should definitely win this one for what they went through, hands down. Had to go through similar as a fan of Amano Serafi and it sucked.
Also who in their right mind nominated Niji as best Vtuber company? They should be winning MOST EVIL Vtuber company. That's like nominating Boeing for aerospace company of the year.
Dragoons are horse back light infantry specialized in dismounting. Technically all modern soldiers who know how to ride a horse are dragoons. I know this from battletech.
does she not know that Dragoon is a mounted cavalry with guns?