Subhan Allah! I love the respect and the collaboration these brothers show each other. May Allah forgive their shortcomings and ours; and may we take them as role models when debating with each other. Long live our scholars and teachers.
Better to be safe than sorry. Going with Sheikh YQ. So great to see respectful debate. This should be the way to discuss critical issues without creating divisions and chaos. May Allah guide us all!
Subhanallah the respect between both sheikhs is admirable and honourable.. tbh I'm with sheikh yasir qadhi on this issue, especially in the UK we have the full capabilities of acquiring halal meat, with halal shops and restaurants serving halal food.. unfortunately what troubles me the most is, the condition these creatures of Allah swt are kept in before slaughter.. :(
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I side with Dr.YQ. I wish there was more discourse like this but on the unethical conditions animals are kept in at *all* slaughterhouses including "halal" slaughterhouses
subhanallh, it is so beautiful so see a respectful, fact based, debate. I now understand both positions better now. BTW I eat zabiha meaning halal or kosher. My brother has changed, and now he eats"people of the book" meat from Burger king.
The crux of the matter is that both of them brought their points they take into consideration by the ulimah and Islam. I stick to Yasar Qadri points . As for what you all have to remember is that the white meat chicken is still meat and is categorised as meat thus I stay with Y Q POINTS. We should also remember that we carry out the month of Ramadan annually. So if in doubt we can restrain ourselves from the doubt of the meat and eat something else .
May Allah bless our Sheikhs who help to educate us towards the right path. Amin. On this matter, the question is do ahlul kittab ever say "bismillah" before slaughter? The answer is no, not even during the time of the prophet (pbuh)! Now, the Jews are more strict with monotheism than Christians and they slaughter using Khosher methods. So during the time of the prophet (pbuh) the concepts of khoser and trinity already existed, so I think we cannot say that today's ahulul kittab are different. The exception is IF we know these ahlul kittab mentioned any other name except Allah, because clearly we cannot them to explicitly say "bismillah" as Yasir Qadhi is insisting. Sheikh Birjas position is therefore, in my opinion, the more correct position, because Allah did not require that we check whether the Jews or Trinitarian Christians said "bismillah" or not. They had their aqeedah and He (Allah, swt) was aware of this when He revealed the permissibility of their meat in Surah Al-Maidah. In addition, surely if you can marry an ahlul kittab (including trinitarian Christians) then how can you not eat her food (which could include what she slaughtered)? Or are we expecting Trinitarian butcher to say "bismillah" when he clearly believes Jesus is the son of (or) God? We cannot make haraam what has not been EXPLICITLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY made haraam. Something may be disliked without it being haraam. And I agree with Sheikh Birjas on this matter. Allahu Aalam.
About 40 years ago during his visit to USA, he refused to answer on this subject. Most of people who question about Halal and non Halal meat, eat McDonald, Burger king etc. Arabs use Halal term very loosely. Question be discussed Zabiah vs Halal.
It can't be obligatory upon non-muslims though to say Bismillah since they use a different name in referring to Allah, may Allah forgive us all. Very respectful debate.
Its a challenge to the kings and sultans and business taicoon in the muslim ummah to atleast create a slaughtered halal meat through mass production of meat. And a mass distribution for the sake of muslim ummah Like magnolia san miguel does. Im always praying about it.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Not true, the prophet pbuh said in an authentic hadith that people were asking him about meat from people of the book that may have not had the name of Allah said upon it or not. The prophet pbuh then said to say Bismillah yourself and eat the meat anyway.
There is a pakistani youtube food vlogger (called Heyman food reviews). He eats KFC chicken burger all the time and has done video reviews of it. I politely reminded him earlier today that KFC is not halal because they use HFA (which endorses stunning prior to slaughter). He started falsely accusing me of trolling, continuously made fun of me and he also insulted me by calling me 'trash'. Astaghfirullah. Allah swt warned the ummah about so called muslims who sell their deen for a small portion of wealth and fame in this duniya. Rasool-Allah also said that in end of times, society would become so corrupt that people would falsely accuse an honourable man of being a liar and would in return regard a liar to be an honourable man. May Allah swt protect all sincere muslims against the hypocrites and other enemies of Islam. Ameen.
Stunning is halal so long as the animal does not die before the knife cuts the throat. Killing an animal using purely electric shock however is forbidden.
@@sassysam6998 - it is not halal at all. The only genuinely halal agency in UK is HMC. All other so called halal agencies allow stunning, gassing, electrocution and gassing before slaughter. This practice is haram. Even jewish rabbis do not allow these practices.
@@sassysam6998 - HFA website states it alllows stunning prior to slaughter. I don't give a damn what you think, so stop wasting my time. I have zero patience for fake Muslims.
My question is: how are people of the book, i.e. Christians, be expected to say Bimilla? They were already worshipping Jesus when Islam came. That's one of the main reasons our final prophet PBUH was needed to be sent.
Yes, in it that you should not cause panic to the animal and calm it down before slaughtering. Typically the eye's must be covered and the animal should not see the knife.
I know of Muslim slaughter houses but do not know of Christian slaughter houses. The people of ahlul kitaab during the time of our prophet slaughtered very differently from today's commercial slaughter houses.
Subhan Allaha. May Allah bless both of you brothers. Diversity within the limits. This is the beauty of Islam. From the discussion and listening to others it is my thought , "if one follows the Quran Hakeem and fear of Allah and submit to Him and His will and what one feels with purity of ones heart and intentions, eating from "the people of the Book" as an exception because it is said so in Quran Hakeem, one may not commit a sin and may even be rewarded ( Allah ST knows the best) and those who feel closer to other perspective with purity of their heart, follow the saying in Quran Hakeem and fear of Allah will be also fine. By the way Fiqh came way later and only carry the opinions of those scholars. None of them told us to follow them. Nothing should divide us as muslim. Those who believe in ONENESS of Allah without making partners to Him, believing in His last prophet Mohammad (pbuh) as His massinger and servant, believing in all the prophets of Allah ST, believing in the Noble Quran, the other books sent by Allah ST, all the angles, the Day of Judgment, Haven and Hell and destiny are "one". No color, race, country of origin, language, culture, social status, gender and even fiqh SHALL NOT separate us. We may celebrate Eid on different days, we may have a difference of opinion on certain matters including how we should pray as long as we follow to best of our abilities, the Quran Hakeem and the the foot steps of prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and remain conscious and fearful of our creator Allah ST to whom we shall all return. May Allah ST guide all of us to the righteous path, soften our hearts, make us humble, fill our hearts with eman and His love and the love of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), love for each other, bless us with unity, health, peace and happiness. May Allah ST give us the strength and ability to to speak the truth and to perform justice, be honest, be forgiving, stand against injustice, wrongdoing, oppression, dishonesty, and nepotism. Oh! Allah turn the hearts of those who are misguided even our enemies. Oh! we believe in You as a the sole Creator, the sole Sustainer, and the sole Owner of the Universes, Master of the day of Judgement, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, all Knowing, all Merciful, the Only worthy of worship. Oh! Allah we completely submit to to You and to Your will. You alone has the ownership of power lives. We chose to be Your slave by choice and we are proud that You, the Creator and the Sustainer is our Lord. All praises and thanks are to You. Oh! Allah make us worthy to be called Umat of Mohammad (pbuh). Oh! Allah make us worthy of Your emence and limitless Mercy. Oh! Allah make successful in this world and hear after. Ameen.
You don't, hence do not eat anywhere but until you are sure Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
it is also mentioned in the Quran that all nations (including the people of the book) are required to mention the name of Allah (Tasmiyah) 22:34, and it is obligatory Judaism. Christians do not have laws that are particular to them, their laws are basically the law (Shareea) of Judaism. Second: if you read books of Tafseer (in particular Ibn Katheer) regarding Ayah 5:5 "and made lawful for you is the food of the people of the Book" you will find that many Sahabah (including Ali) have stated that this ayah does not apply to Arab Christians because they do not follow the laws (shareea) of the people of the book. Also, the hadeeths regarding Tasmiyah are all from the time of Madinah, so the Tasmiyah was not made optional in Madinah. Note that Allah says "Do not eat of that over which God's name has not been pronounced, for that would amount to exceeding the limits of law. Certainly the devils inspire their proteges to dispute with you: If you obey them, you will surely become an idolater." So how can anyone deduce that the Tasmiyah is optional or can even be abrogated by another ayah. They say that Shafei said it is optional, well, Allah does not. Keep in mind that many of Shafie students have disagreed with Shafei regarding this fatwah. Shafei (may Allah have mercy on him) does not speak based on revelation, so YES, he is not infallible and can make a mistake. May Allah guide us all to what is best for us in this life and the here after.
I consider zabiha meat obligation and worship. I am eating according to Allah's orders keeping my self to halal food only. Secondly mcdonald and other places have bacon and Pork cooked on the same pan. How do my brother feel about that.
First of all Assalam O Alaikum Wow I have so many things I can say here Both sheikhs started as my position and my position First of all lets be clear no one is entitled to have a position without a proof from quran and sunnah You can’t have a bad dream and next morning you have a position I have to admire and praise Sheikh Qadi about in explaining his position very well from quran and sunnah Now the other Sheikh is typical example of mincing words beating around the bush and dodging the real question Making a simple matter so complicated that people keep on coming to their shops May Allah forgive us and guide us all Ameen
May Allah grant hidaya and courage to all of us, so we can follow Quran and sahi hadith. I prefer this statement if you in doubt stay away from it. Eat halal if you have doubts stay away you won't die. Please don't assume and eat or use excuse our sheik said it's ok so eat if it's not halal it's on the sheik. May Allah make it easy for all of us. Ameen
How do you know they’re dead? The purpose of stunning with gas or electric water bath is to paralyze the chicken so they don’t move when going through the machine saw it is not meant to kill them.
@@moab0226 the 'halal' industry is corrupt. you will never know if that animal did not die before the slaughter unless you can find proof and find which slaughterhouses really slaughter the animals the halal way. So this means that every 'halal' restaurant you might have been to is actually not halal. Or every meat product you bought. Really depressing because I love meat..
@@birkiz. At that point it is not on you whether or not it is halal. It is only upon the people who slaughter and sell the meat knowing it was done in such a way.
@haleemamoin7868 That's the wrong reason because it's not on you if they are corrupt. If a Muslim offers you meat and testified it's halal, then you don't have to doubt it unless you have strong proofs for it. It's like you're working for a company who deals with Ribba but the product it self is halal (like selling cars for example), that doesn't make your job haram, unless you're the one who's personally dealing with the Ribba. I hope I'm clear and Allah knows best.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Yasir qadhi opinion is better Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
What if the machine-slaughtered animal(chicken) is missed in the line cutting the throat and that goes into hot water and die there and it mixed up in the batch, machine miss to cut the throat or cut the stomach or on the side blood is not drained out and goes into hot water and die there?
Therefore go zabiha Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
They did not mention the Shia Jafari school which also takes the strict position that the zabihah has to be with the name of Allah being said before the slaughter. So, no McDs, etc. There is no way of knowing what is going on at the non-Muslim slaughterhouse so it is better to err on the side of being cautious and only eating meat from Muslim butchers and otherwise not eating meat if halal meat is not available. You will not be deprived if you go vegetarian due to lack of halal meat.
The grocery store uses the same knives, machines, and meat grinders ....they use for pork and non halal meats! Their meat is najis! There are halal meat shops in every town now, no excuse to eat non zabiha meats!
The Hadeeth that says to say Bismillah seems to be the divider. Do we know when it was said? If it was said between the verses then it supports the Al-Anam verse and gets abrogated by the Al-Maidah verse but if it was later than the verses then it support Yasie Qadi's opinion.....who will tell us?
I know this is an old video but I felt compelled to comment. Shaikh Yasir Birjas is "assuming" that all chicken in the US is slaughtered by Ahl-Al-Kitab forgetting that there is a huge population in the US of Atheists, Agnostics, Budhists, Taoists, hindus, etc. etc. Good luck trying to figure out who killed the chicken in your chicken sandwich!!!
You ppl should not using vs for scholars!! Because many ppl have gone by before us used to side with scholars!! And they become into small groups... why Ppl these days trying to do the same!! Grow up!! And use your aqal!!
Alhumdullilah, everything is from Allah AND in the name of Allah. I hope the zabiha meat I eat someone had pronounced Bismillah during slaughter. Insha Allah will not eat the most savory chicken from Chick-fil-A from the people of the book as there are too many middlemen in between what is served and where it came from.
So what if the Ahlulkitab mentioned the father, the son, and the holy spirit, does this mean since they are ahlalkitab.? I would rather take the safer option
I always try not to eat meat or chicken other than that of a muslim restaurant or shop. But Allah has mentioned that eating meat slaughtered by Christians and Jews is halal. Of course, even if they follow the method, why will they want to take the name of Allah swt?
Sahih Bukhari 2057: Narrated `Aisha: Some people said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Meat is brought to us by some people and we are not sure whether the name of Allah has been mentioned on it or not (at the time of slaughtering the animals)." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said (to them), "Mention the name of Allah and eat it."
That is like quoting a scripture in isolation . Nor I am going to discuss the authenticity of the Hadith. Very simple Litmus Test: 1. Who is supreme - God Almighty or the Prophet or Aisha or Bukhari? Only God Almighty 2. Which is the supreme Book - the Quran or Hadith. The Quran is the divine and direct revelation from God Almighty Himself and can never be subjugated or contradicted by a human book. Allah has declared that believing in a part of the Qur'an and disbelieving in the other parts has no benefit, as He said disapproving the practice of Jews: {… Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allâh is not unaware of what you do.} [2: 85]. 3. In the Quran , God Almighty has said multiple times “ O ye who believe! Obey Allah, AND obey the messenger “ . HE never said obey Allah Subhan-wa-taala or Obey the Prophet . Hence obeying the laws of Allah Subhan-wa-taala is the prime requirement. 5. What does God Almighty explicitly say in the Majestic Quran about which meat to eat and which meat not to eat? Read the Quran and it’s meaning in the language of your choice and understand the four conditions to be met for the meat to be Halal. It does NOT say any one to chose at your convenience. 6. What has been made lawful by God Almighty and what has been made unlawful by God Almighty CANNOT be overruled or overturned by any Prophet of any human being. “O Prophet, why do you prohibit [yourself from] what Allah has made lawful for you, seeking the approval of your wives? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” Al Quran 66:1 Please do not quote out of context or in isolation but please READ and Understand the Quran and it’s detailed tafseer from an authentic source in the language of your choice. May Allah Subhan-wa-taala keep us all guided and protected
@@saga5924 First of all. I'll make something very clear. This is a sahih hadith. Narrated by Aisha RA and passes all the conditions of it being sahih. It is in the chapter of doubts in Sahih Bukhari and comes after the hadith used by Sheikh Yasir to support his argument in this very video regarding trained hunt animals. When you are presenting an argument and including hadith, you should present all the hadiths directly related to the topic. Having said that, this hadith is not against the verse in the Quran. If this argument was very clearly explained in the Quran there would not be two interpretations for it. The conditions for the meat to be Halal are very clear i.e. if the name of Allah has been taken then it's halal, if not taken then it's Haram but there is a third argument for conditions where it's not explicitly clear whether the name was taken or not. This is true even for Muslim countries. How do you know with surety that the halal meat you get in countries like Turkey or Pakistan, the person who slaughtered did take Allah's name. This hadith is related to the third condition where you may or may not know with certainty that Allah's name was taken. We have a Sahih Hadith which states that when in doubt, say bismillah and eat the meat as long as they are complying with other conditions. Rest Allah knows best. Also, I have read the Quran with Tafseer multiple times already. I would advise you to open your mind and study Sahih Hadiths. The Prophet was the best Aalim of the Quran and his authentic hadiths are his Tafseer of the Quran.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Respcted, do one thing once you are in neccssity then have meet supplied by others otherwise if you are in need of meet then do yourself after performing Allahs name and killing. Deen has to be followed in letter within time, space and circumstances you are in.Only one muslim should not intentionally have haram meet in voilation of quranic injunction and hadith in which we can take sunnat laid down by prophit. Better is become vegetarian and organic so that fiq on this pt. cannot create confusion. Jazakallah.
@very nice..but still both are convinced with their practices and doesn't come to one standard. Where is "And hold firmly to the rope of Allāh all together and do not become divided" Its hard for me to explain to non-Muslims who is right or not. Sheikh or right side seems flexible in his practice as US is not Christian country and meat market is not led by any Christian faith company. Secondly he said Surah Innam is Maki, so if any Surah is Maki then its irrelevant for today bze its for specific condition. Is it?
1. Problem is there is no way to ascertain that a person is Ahle-kitab. We have 50 percent population that doesn’t believe. 2. Also the slaughter ayat says, don’t eat from the meat that has been slaughtered with a name other than Allah. 3. Also if a Hindu (Sanatan Dharam) says the name of “Brahma” ultimate one-ness.. doesn’t it point to Allah. Also within Hindus are people of book as well, they do have a book. 4. If ayat of Quran are to be taken literally then Allah said marry people of the book, He didn’t specify man or woman. 5. Interestingly they didn’t bring up jugular vein thing popular among Asians and they didn’t go deep on chicken
Allah's name is not taken by Christians. They believe Jesus to be God. How can it be halal for you? At least the Arab Muslims say Allah & take the name of Allah when slaughtering the animal. I don't know why you people are delusion living in USA.
Yasir qadhi opinion is valid here. I don't agree with him all the time. But you need to be careful of meat consumption in west specially. The majority of slaughtered meat in west is from athietst and agnostic. Like one can't marry from people of the book who fornicates. Reality is how many chaste Christians or jews women do you see. Similarly majority of them are agnostic or athietst so avoid the meat unless you are certain. Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
I agree with sh. Yasir Birjas. I eat USDA inspected meat, which is an act made by Abraham Linclon to ensure the animal is slaughtered....is god name mention on it or not?!...idk...here is the important question. Should Allah's name be mentioned by ahl al ketab and as a muslim, should i make sure they mentioned it?. Or it's none of my business to search if they did or not, as long as i know they are from ahl al ketab. As i take from muslim butchers without checking if they did mention Allah's name or not. It's smth i have been struggling with since i moved to the US tbh. Not sure which raay is right....Dr Yasir Qadi opinion is safer and i believe it has more takwa msA...but also it might be unnecessary..alaho 23lam
Yes, but in west mostly slaughter houses are run by athietst. So we should be careful Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
They just confused me even more than I was before I started to watch the video. What Shaikh goes to a restaurant that serves no halal meat? There's this little thing called cross contamination!
Hence yasir qadhi opinion is more valid. Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…” A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
How come they can use the reference to make things Halal just because we eat meat the condition is for example bible is the book of Allah and to have a belief is fine, of course it's mandatory but after decent of Quran bible is not to follow unless it is in its original condition as it was revealed, the thing is no true followers of the Bible and the way they believe is totally haram so how come zabiyah of Christian is Halal no way. Kosher from yahoodi again the same rule Applies I have this argument and with this responsibility guarantee that even in the UK meat is not halal at large at small level there are possibilities by chance. So the scholars whatever they are saying they shouldn't strongly spread thier opinion but what Allah says about this time we are living, this era is of ulma e soh and ulma haq are observing quietly. So please don't eat the meat from Christian slaughtering, Allah Subhana Tala also says in the Quran that Kufar are not friends they will deceive you or throw a dust in your eyes, May Allah forgive me for anything unintentionally written here.
It’s not just the slaughter but also the way the animals are treated and they’re all factory farmed in the west and even in the east making the so called halal meat haram with a branding to appeal to Muslim.
These animals are not all factory farmed in the west. The US is predominantly Christian (people of the book) meaning the meat (other than pork) is permissible unless you know for sure that it was slaughtered in a haram manner
@@Vortex.08 yes they almost always are factory farmed, not only in the west, but also the east. It’s not possible to feed massive populations with open farms. If you did any research you’d know this. But u can continue justifying the cruelty for taste, that’s what Islam is all about obviously.
@@FahimusAlimus Ok well, the prophet pbuh still granted us permission to consume the meat of the people of the book without question. He never asked if an animal was slaughtered correctly or not from a Jew or Christian. Also, some Islamic countries still use this factory farming anyway. Does this make the meat haram? No, it was slaughtered by Muslims under the name of Allah which is all that is required.
@@Vortex.08 because it was halal. U do realise that meat being halal isn’t to do with who’s serving it but how it was obtained? There r specific guidances on how to treat the animal and if they r treated like scum, beaten, abused, kept in disgusting conditions, then all of those practices r haram and it doesn’t matter who’s doing it. The fact of the matter is, that is objectively the case with most of the meat today because it’s the most efficient method to feed the greedy population who want burgers and steak. The prophet treated animals kindly and rarely ate them. All of them do and yes it does, factory farming is objectively haram whether u like it or not and u trying to justify it is pathetic and goes against the Quran. If u think Islam allows breeding animals by raping them, keeping them crammed in their own faeces, having their babies taken away from them, then u r just delusional and should be embarrassed to call urself a Muslim. No it’s not, halal isn’t just the slaughter and whose name it’s done under. It’s like u don’t even get the concept, according to u, it would be ok to torture the animal for fun, skin them alive, put acid in their eyes, chop their limbs off and as long as u slaughter them under Allah’s name it’s halal and the torture of the animal just goes unpunished. That’s not how anything works, ur just using whatever u want to justify ur piggish habits because u don’t actually care. Products like milk and eggs don’t even have Allah’s name attached to them, they’re just torture. Bulls r masturbated to acquire semen which is beastiality and haram, the semen is then forced into a cow which is rape and beastiality so also haram, the cow gives birth but the calf is dragged away from her so it doesn’t drink the milk and the calf is killed for haram beef. Then the cow is drained of all her milk and the process is repeated until she’s too weak to continue and then she’s killed for haram beef. Does any of that sound halal to u? Islam has no association with that practice and the prophet who preached kindness to all of Allah’s creatures, wouldn’t even hurt a fly, would be disgusted.
An animal raised according to Islam is not even supposed to see another animal while it's being slaughtered because it causes pain. The Islamic way is expensive but humane. It limits meat consumption because it makes it more labor-intensive thereby more expensive. This is actually a net positive for Humanity because having meet a couple times a week versus every meal leads to a lot of health problems and a lot of money wasted for the state in the case of the United States we're talking trillions of dollars out of the government pocketbook because people eat junk fast food. Is a zabeeha puts all of the cost up front while industrial Slaughter transfer the cost to the state through Healthcare expenses, if we built in the price of the healthcare cost in Chicken by any state including a country that doesn't have healthcare for all like the United States, the price of cheap chicken would more than triple
Yasir Birjas is Absolutely and 100% wrong . Perhaps he wants to take the modern day Muslims down the same path of convenience and astray as the Christian Priests who made Alcohol , Pork , Homosexuality etc okay as part of their religious belief system . Yasir Birjas wants to do the same with Muslims, start with chicken , then go to red meat , then to pork ,then to homosexuality, then to abandon Salah , Zakat , Haj etc and finally to associate something with God Almighty . This ignorant man of convenience is telling the Ummah which Surahs ( Chapters) of Quran are admissible and which Surahs are not admissible. This ignorant man - Yasir Barjis may finally end up with his own version of Quran retaining this Surahs / Chapters of Quran which suits his convenience living in the west and to abandon Surahs which does not suit him or those like him.. What a weird reasoning and fabrication he is propagating. May God guide him to what is the truth and what is right . PLEASE do not listen to such ignorant man such as Yasir Barjis who will surely lead a common man with lesser knowledge astray from the righteous path. The stand taken by Sheikh Yasir Al Qadhi is the right and correct understanding and approach . Any meat on which the name of Allah Subhan-wa-taala has not been taken at the time of the slaughter is the overriding condition even if other conditions are met . What has been prohibited by Allah Subhan-wa-taala explicitly in the Majestic Quran can Never be overturned or overruled by any human being including the Prophet let alone any Barjis or Narjis. Moreover the dietary laws of “ Ahlul Kitab “ all originate from Old Testament as there is nothing in New Testament. Most western countries are all secular and do not follow any dietary laws or practices of old testament except perhaps the Jews with their kosher meats. Finally , the very first word revealed by Allah Subhan-wa-taala was “ Iqra” meaning READ. And the very first 6 verses revealed by Allah Subhan-wa-taala tells us to read , acquire knowledge etc. Allah Subhan-wa-taala could not emphasise more about reading , knowledge and understanding as the pillars of your faith . So please read the Quran to understand it’s meaning and tafseer in the language of your choice - the language you can understand. Make sure it’s meaning in your language is from an authentic source. May Allah Subhan-wa-taala keep us protected from fitnah of any deviant and keep us guided to the only true and righteous path .
They are both wrong according the holy Quran. They are not debating each other from different viewpoints. They both agree on 98% of their talks. It was a waste of time.
One stupid thing u said that Are you happy if someone who does not pray should also eat haram meat? Let people eat halal food May Allah give them hidayat to pray as well.
Person who says Ulema says it means he is not Sheikh so stay away from him, Yasin Qadhi is a Sheikh because he didn't say ulama says, only Quran and hadeeth is Furqman. Not ulama.
YQ position is more sensible because if not YB should also eat of the red meats as there is no condition that a knife must be used at the neck in Surah Al Maidah.
I don't know if these comments will reach shaikh Yassir Qadi or not but the issue for newly immigrated religious scholars is not knowing the culture. If they know the statistics most of the people in the United States identify themselves as agnostic or not believing in God. So that will take the whole debate back to surah Anam. Thre is more than likely chance that the person who slaughtered the animal is either agnostic or not a Christian (ahlul kitaab). Moreover even if they are identifying themselves as Christians while slaughtering they are usually cursing using words like goddamn etc which is opposite to word Bismillah. So in no way any of the ahle kitaab versus apply on any slaughtering which is done in USA. Shikh Yassir though did not mention any of that in his debate but his advantage is knowing the culture so obviously he is correct.
1.Mere machine cut animal isn't fit for Muslim consumption. 2.Any name other than Allah while slaughtering if recited, it is also not halal for Muslims. 3.If a corrupt a'qeeda, like kafirs, wahabis, shias or a qadiyani if recites Allahs' name at the time slaughtering an animal, that zabeeha isn't fit for Muslims. 4.Using tapes that repeat BISMILLAHI ALLAHU AKBER at the time of slaughtering an animal, is also not zabeeha for Muslims. Chicken are slaughtered this way. 5.Applying high voltage electric shock to the animal being slaughtered makes the zabeeha very doubtful and hence this kind of zabeeha isn't halal for Muslims. 6.The slaughtered meat if not kept under observation of a Muslim, from the time of slaughtering to the time of consumption is also not halal for a Muslim. Most of the refrigerated meat comes under this category. If this facility isn't under the control of Muslims, forget this slaughtered zabeeha to be halal. 7. Resiting Allahs' name on the knife in the beginning, then slaughtering several animals, may make the very first animal consumeable, but the rest of the animals slaughtered aren't halal at all.
1) Machine cut is halal as long as a human is operating it. 2) true 3) no such thing as wahabis, and all food of a muslim is halal until proven otherwise. Don't assume, ya takfiri 4) true 5) wrong, it's been proven the animal doesn't die 6) no, this is a biddah, found in the subcontinent 7) no, this makes no sense, it's all halal until proven otherwise
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Subhan Allah! I love the respect and the collaboration these brothers show each other. May Allah forgive their shortcomings and ours; and may we take them as role models when debating with each other. Long live our scholars and teachers.
I would go with YQ. Allah will give us meat in abundance in jannah
The reason behind saying Allah's name when slaugtered is that no one has the right take life of a living being except Allah SWT .
Better to be safe than sorry. Going with Sheikh YQ.
So great to see respectful debate. This should be the way to discuss critical issues without creating divisions and chaos. May Allah guide us all!
Subhanallah the respect between both sheikhs is admirable and honourable.. tbh I'm with sheikh yasir qadhi on this issue, especially in the UK we have the full capabilities of acquiring halal meat, with halal shops and restaurants serving halal food.. unfortunately what troubles me the most is, the condition these creatures of Allah swt are kept in before slaughter.. :(
I agree , although they had big differences, but they pinpointed where they are compatible, and yet respected each other
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Remember the ayah of surah of baqarah where Allah SWT says yudhillu bihee katheeran wayahdee bihee katheeran.
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Respect ? They both hypocrite May ﷲﷻ guide us all.
What a respectful way to debate. Especially the Sheikh on the right who would pass it back to والله أعلم
Prophet Muhammad Salahlahu Alay Waslam said what lawful is plain and what is unlawful is plain. In between them is doubtful matters and avoid them.
JazakAllah khair
I side with Dr.YQ. I wish there was more discourse like this but on the unethical conditions animals are kept in at *all* slaughterhouses including "halal" slaughterhouses
Ever seen how they're kept and slaughtered in Islamic countries??? Absolutely nothing Islamic about it .
I agree with Sheikh Yasir!
Which Yasir? 😅
Ma sha Allah, healthy discussion.
MASH ALLAH, MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU BOTH.
When did this take place?
subhanallh, it is so beautiful so see a respectful, fact based, debate. I now understand both positions better now. BTW I eat zabiha meaning halal or kosher. My brother has changed, and now he eats"people of the book" meat from Burger king.
Beautiful purely respectful debate
The crux of the matter is that both of them brought their points they take into consideration by the ulimah and Islam. I stick to Yasar Qadri points . As for what you all have to remember is that the white meat chicken is still meat and is categorised as meat thus I stay with Y Q POINTS. We should also remember that we carry out the month of Ramadan annually. So if in doubt we can restrain ourselves from the doubt of the meat and eat something else .
I am thrilled
beautiful lecture, will be staying halal and/or kosher from now on in sha' Allah
May Allah bless our Sheikhs who help to educate us towards the right path. Amin.
On this matter, the question is do ahlul kittab ever say "bismillah" before slaughter? The answer is no, not even during the time of the prophet (pbuh)! Now, the Jews are more strict with monotheism than Christians and they slaughter using Khosher methods. So during the time of the prophet (pbuh) the concepts of khoser and trinity already existed, so I think we cannot say that today's ahulul kittab are different. The exception is IF we know these ahlul kittab mentioned any other name except Allah, because clearly we cannot them to explicitly say "bismillah" as Yasir Qadhi is insisting. Sheikh Birjas position is therefore, in my opinion, the more correct position, because Allah did not require that we check whether the Jews or Trinitarian Christians said "bismillah" or not. They had their aqeedah and He (Allah, swt) was aware of this when He revealed the permissibility of their meat in Surah Al-Maidah. In addition, surely if you can marry an ahlul kittab (including trinitarian Christians) then how can you not eat her food (which could include what she slaughtered)? Or are we expecting Trinitarian butcher to say "bismillah" when he clearly believes Jesus is the son of (or) God?
We cannot make haraam what has not been EXPLICITLY and UNAMBIGUOUSLY made haraam. Something may be disliked without it being haraam. And I agree with Sheikh Birjas on this matter. Allahu Aalam.
How do I find a person of ahalul kitab? I need him at least for a photo opportunity.
About 40 years ago during his visit to USA, he refused to answer on this subject. Most of people who question about Halal and non Halal meat, eat McDonald, Burger king etc.
Arabs use Halal term very loosely. Question be discussed Zabiah vs Halal.
I agree with Shaikh Yasir Birjas
It can't be obligatory upon non-muslims though to say Bismillah since they use a different name in referring to Allah, may Allah forgive us all. Very respectful debate.
Shouldn’t they (kitabis) say the name of Allah in their language then?
@@OrganizedMess0025they may think about jesus when they say it so i think they better not say anything
Ahlul kitab of the Arab used to say the name of Allah. They still do.
They do not have to, as long as they say anything OTHER than the name of Allah then it is haram
So plz confirm that the meat that we get from the halal shops is allowed??
I am a little confused
Its a challenge to the kings and sultans and business taicoon in the muslim ummah to atleast create a slaughtered halal meat through mass production of meat. And a mass distribution for the sake of muslim ummah Like magnolia san miguel does. Im always praying about it.
The best thing is to avoid eating when you are not sure .. you wont die if you eat a veggie burger or pizza .. loll😀
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Not true, the prophet pbuh said in an authentic hadith that people were asking him about meat from people of the book that may have not had the name of Allah said upon it or not. The prophet pbuh then said to say Bismillah yourself and eat the meat anyway.
source?@@Vortex.08
There is a pakistani youtube food vlogger (called Heyman food reviews). He eats KFC chicken burger all the time and has done video reviews of it. I politely reminded him earlier today that KFC is not halal because they use HFA (which endorses stunning prior to slaughter).
He started falsely accusing me of trolling, continuously made fun of me and he also insulted me by calling me 'trash'. Astaghfirullah.
Allah swt warned the ummah about so called muslims who sell their deen for a small portion of wealth and fame in this duniya.
Rasool-Allah also said that in end of times, society would become so corrupt that people would falsely accuse an honourable man of being a liar and would in return regard a liar to be an honourable man.
May Allah swt protect all sincere muslims against the hypocrites and other enemies of Islam. Ameen.
Stunning is halal so long as the animal does not die before the knife cuts the throat. Killing an animal using purely electric shock however is forbidden.
@@sassysam6998 - it is not halal at all. The only genuinely halal agency in UK is HMC. All other so called halal agencies allow stunning, gassing, electrocution and gassing before slaughter. This practice is haram. Even jewish rabbis do not allow these practices.
@@sassysam6998 - where is your proof that KFC is halal?
@@sassysam6998 - HFA website states it alllows stunning prior to slaughter. I don't give a damn what you think, so stop wasting my time. I have zero patience for fake Muslims.
@@sassysam6998 - your daft opinion is not evidence. I don't care what you think. You need to have a serious think about your lack of Iman.
Alhamdulillah, I agree with Sheikh Yasir Qadhi because Jews, Christian and Muslims believe in same God (with different understanding).
My question is: how are people of the book, i.e. Christians, be expected to say Bimilla? They were already worshipping Jesus when Islam came. That's one of the main reasons our final prophet PBUH was needed to be sent.
As Salaamu Alaikum
I need clarification on this issue of Halal Meats
Is it also true that the “sacrifice “ should be calm before Slaughtered?
Yes, in it that you should not cause panic to the animal and calm it down before slaughtering. Typically the eye's must be covered and the animal should not see the knife.
I know of Muslim slaughter houses but do not know of Christian slaughter houses.
The people of ahlul kitaab during the time of our prophet slaughtered very differently from today's commercial slaughter houses.
Subhan Allaha. May Allah bless both of you brothers. Diversity within the limits. This is the beauty of Islam. From the discussion and listening to others it is my thought , "if one follows the Quran Hakeem and fear of Allah and submit to Him and His will and what one feels with purity of ones heart and intentions, eating from "the people of the Book" as an exception because it is said so in Quran Hakeem, one may not commit a sin and may even be rewarded ( Allah ST knows the best) and those who feel closer to other perspective with purity of their heart, follow the saying in Quran Hakeem and fear of Allah will be also fine. By the way Fiqh came way later and only carry the opinions of those scholars. None of them told us to follow them. Nothing should divide us as muslim. Those who believe in ONENESS of Allah without making partners to Him, believing in His last prophet Mohammad (pbuh) as His massinger and servant, believing in all the prophets of Allah ST, believing in the Noble Quran, the other books sent by Allah ST, all the angles, the Day of Judgment, Haven and Hell and destiny are "one". No color, race, country of origin, language, culture, social status, gender and even fiqh SHALL NOT separate us. We may celebrate Eid on different days, we may have a difference of opinion on certain matters including how we should pray as long as we follow to best of our abilities, the Quran Hakeem and the the foot steps of prophet Mohammad (pbuh) and remain conscious and fearful of our creator Allah ST to whom we shall all return. May Allah ST guide all of us to the righteous path, soften our hearts, make us humble, fill our hearts with eman and His love and the love of Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), love for each other, bless us with unity, health, peace and happiness. May Allah ST give us the strength and ability to to speak the truth and to perform justice, be honest, be forgiving, stand against injustice, wrongdoing, oppression, dishonesty, and nepotism. Oh! Allah turn the hearts of those who are misguided even our enemies. Oh! we believe in You as a the sole Creator, the sole Sustainer, and the sole Owner of the Universes, Master of the day of Judgement, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, all Knowing, all Merciful, the Only worthy of worship. Oh! Allah we completely submit to to You and to Your will. You alone has the ownership of power lives. We chose to be Your slave by choice and we are proud that You, the Creator and the Sustainer is our Lord. All praises and thanks are to You. Oh! Allah make us worthy to be called Umat of Mohammad (pbuh). Oh! Allah make us worthy of Your emence and limitless Mercy. Oh! Allah make successful in this world and hear after. Ameen.
In the secular countries like US. How do you even know that it is a Jew or a Christian doing the slaughter?
Good question 🤔
@@mohamedswaray470 Both are people of the book
You don't, hence do not eat anywhere but until you are sure
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
@@hassanarafat6430I think he/she meant how do you know if it's people of the book or athietst slaughtered meat
Yassir Qadhi is indeed enlightened with regards to this topic. His opinion reigns supreme in this debate.
Confused lot.
it is also mentioned in the Quran that all nations (including the people of the book) are required to mention the name of Allah (Tasmiyah) 22:34, and it is obligatory Judaism. Christians do not have laws that are particular to them, their laws are basically the law (Shareea) of Judaism. Second: if you read books of Tafseer (in particular Ibn Katheer) regarding Ayah 5:5 "and made lawful for you is the food of the people of the Book" you will find that many Sahabah (including Ali) have stated that this ayah does not apply to Arab Christians because they do not follow the laws (shareea) of the people of the book. Also, the hadeeths regarding Tasmiyah are all from the time of Madinah, so the Tasmiyah was not made optional in Madinah. Note that Allah says "Do not eat of that over which God's name has not been pronounced, for that would amount to exceeding the limits of law. Certainly the devils inspire their proteges to dispute with you: If you obey them, you will surely become an idolater." So how can anyone deduce that the Tasmiyah is optional or can even be abrogated by another ayah. They say that Shafei said it is optional, well, Allah does not. Keep in mind that many of Shafie students have disagreed with Shafei regarding this fatwah. Shafei (may Allah have mercy on him) does not speak based on revelation, so YES, he is not infallible and can make a mistake. May Allah guide us all to what is best for us in this life and the here after.
So when Allah says we can eat from the ppl of the book, are we assuming back Christian’s used to say bismillah back in the day ?
I consider zabiha meat obligation and worship. I am eating according to Allah's orders keeping my self to halal food only.
Secondly mcdonald and other places have bacon and Pork cooked on the same pan. How do my brother feel about that.
First of all Assalam O Alaikum
Wow
I have so many things I can say here
Both sheikhs started as my position and my position
First of all lets be clear no one is entitled to have a position without a proof from quran and sunnah
You can’t have a bad dream and next morning you have a position
I have to admire and praise Sheikh Qadi about in explaining his position very well from quran and sunnah
Now the other Sheikh is typical example of mincing words beating around the bush and dodging the real question
Making a simple matter so complicated that people keep on coming to their shops
May Allah forgive us and guide us all
Ameen
How was the animal treated during its life is the one you feel comfortable skipping over? True halal meat in the west is rare and expensive.
May Allah grant hidaya and courage to all of us, so we can follow Quran and sahi hadith. I prefer this statement if you in doubt stay away from it. Eat halal if you have doubts stay away you won't die. Please don't assume and eat or use excuse our sheik said it's ok so eat if it's not halal it's on the sheik. May Allah make it easy for all of us. Ameen
I have seen chicken being smoked to death in slaughter houses in chambers before slaughtering… the chickens are mostly dead with the smoke treatment…
How do you know they’re dead? The purpose of stunning with gas or electric water bath is to paralyze the chicken so they don’t move when going through the machine saw it is not meant to kill them.
@@moab0226 the 'halal' industry is corrupt. you will never know if that animal did not die before the slaughter unless you can find proof and find which slaughterhouses really slaughter the animals the halal way. So this means that every 'halal' restaurant you might have been to is actually not halal. Or every meat product you bought. Really depressing because I love meat..
@@birkiz. am vegetarian for those reasons
@@birkiz. At that point it is not on you whether or not it is halal. It is only upon the people who slaughter and sell the meat knowing it was done in such a way.
@haleemamoin7868 That's the wrong reason because it's not on you if they are corrupt. If a Muslim offers you meat and testified it's halal, then you don't have to doubt it unless you have strong proofs for it. It's like you're working for a company who deals with Ribba but the product it self is halal (like selling cars for example), that doesn't make your job haram, unless you're the one who's personally dealing with the Ribba. I hope I'm clear and Allah knows best.
سبحان الله
Are we around practicing ahlul kitab no we don’t these around us are not people of the book are they practicing n fearing their own book ?
I am even more confused now that before.
if theres a doubt stay away. my rule is that I eat from halal food places, end of.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Hey, without the USDA meat inspectors' stamp of approval, we may have a problem.
People of the book who are mushrik doing shirk
Maybe we should look into when Allah azawajal said people of the book they were not in shirk
Hmmmm… sweet mystery of meat.
How great they are!
May The All-Mighty Allah bless immensely both of them! Ameen.
I didn’t understand why he separating chicken when he have no prove that islam saying chicken shouldn’t slaughter. Subxaanalaah
Sounds like everyone has got a different understanding or an explanation
Yasir qadhi opinion is better
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
What if the machine-slaughtered animal(chicken) is missed in the line cutting the throat and that goes into hot water and die there and it mixed up in the batch, machine miss to cut the throat or cut the stomach or on the side blood is not drained out and goes into hot water and die there?
Well the animal in which blood is retained , its flesh has more reddish color so it is easy to recognize.
Therefore go zabiha
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Clear explanation. Barakallah
They did not mention the Shia Jafari school which also takes the strict position that the zabihah has to be with the name of Allah being said before the slaughter. So, no McDs, etc. There is no way of knowing what is going on at the non-Muslim slaughterhouse so it is better to err on the side of being cautious and only eating meat from Muslim butchers and otherwise not eating meat if halal meat is not available.
You will not be deprived if you go vegetarian due to lack of halal meat.
Both shuykh make sense but Sh Yasir Qadhi's point is to be more careful and i am.I only eat halal.
Is it not true that every one pray before they eat? 8:13
قصه عائشه رضي الله عنها عندما قال ديار رسول الله ان هذا الطعام اتى من اهل الكتاب فقال رسول الله سموا الله وكلوا والله اعلم
The grocery store uses the same knives, machines, and meat grinders ....they use for pork and non halal meats! Their meat is najis! There are halal meat shops in every town now, no excuse to eat non zabiha meats!
The Hadeeth that says to say Bismillah seems to be the divider. Do we know when it was said? If it was said between the verses then it supports the Al-Anam verse and gets abrogated by the Al-Maidah verse but if it was later than the verses then it support Yasie Qadi's opinion.....who will tell us?
لا حول ولا قوه الا بالله
So why red meat is different than chicken? If Ahl kitab is ok then why not both ?
I know this is an old video but I felt compelled to comment. Shaikh Yasir Birjas is "assuming" that all chicken in the US is slaughtered by Ahl-Al-Kitab forgetting that there is a huge population in the US of Atheists, Agnostics, Budhists, Taoists, hindus, etc. etc. Good luck trying to figure out who killed the chicken in your chicken sandwich!!!
You ppl should not using vs for scholars!! Because many ppl have gone by before us used to side with scholars!! And they become into small groups... why Ppl these days trying to do the same!! Grow up!! And use your aqal!!
Today’s Ahle kitab has been changed. They do not follow what Allah instructed them to do.
Well in most of the countries we can get Zabiha meat. So why we need any meat to be ok to consume? Why we need to eat any meat which is not zabiha.
Like here in Sweden you dont have high qiality steaks you only have frozen and meat for stew.
Alhumdullilah, everything is from Allah AND in the name of Allah. I hope the zabiha meat I eat someone had pronounced Bismillah during slaughter. Insha Allah will not eat the most savory chicken from Chick-fil-A from the people of the book as there are too many middlemen in between what is served and where it came from.
Save the planet and be vegetarians! Rasul Allah ate meat rarely, so let’s follow his (SAW) example!!
Sheik Birjas these days there are no true ahle kitab these days.
So what if the Ahlulkitab mentioned the father, the son, and the holy spirit, does this mean since they are ahlalkitab.? I would rather take the safer option
They r busy in discussing halal meat but no time to look into what is going on in the Muslim world. Let’s talk about the upcoming monetary system
The question of halal meat is also happening in the Muslim world right now also, sir!
I always try not to eat meat or chicken other than that of a muslim restaurant or shop. But Allah has mentioned that eating meat slaughtered by Christians and Jews is halal. Of course, even if they follow the method, why will they want to take the name of Allah swt?
You should watch Shaikh Uthman ibn Farooq's video. He shows in the video actually what takes place in the slaughter houses.
Sahih Bukhari 2057: Narrated `Aisha:
Some people said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Meat is brought to us by some people and we are not sure whether the name of Allah has been mentioned on it or not (at the time of slaughtering the animals)." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said (to them), "Mention the name of Allah and eat it."
That is like quoting a scripture in isolation . Nor I am going to discuss the authenticity of the Hadith.
Very simple Litmus Test:
1. Who is supreme - God Almighty or the Prophet or Aisha or Bukhari? Only God Almighty
2. Which is the supreme Book - the Quran or Hadith. The Quran is the divine and direct revelation from God Almighty Himself and can never be subjugated or contradicted by a human book. Allah has declared that believing in a part of the Qur'an and disbelieving in the other parts has no benefit, as He said disapproving the practice of Jews: {… Then do you believe in a part of the Scripture and reject the rest? Then what is the recompense of those who do so among you, except disgrace in the life of this world, and on the Day of Resurrection they shall be consigned to the most grievous torment. And Allâh is not unaware of what you do.} [2: 85].
3. In the Quran , God Almighty has said multiple times “ O ye who believe! Obey Allah, AND obey the messenger “ . HE never said obey Allah Subhan-wa-taala or Obey the Prophet . Hence obeying the laws of Allah Subhan-wa-taala is the prime requirement.
5. What does God Almighty explicitly say in the Majestic Quran about which meat to eat and which meat not to eat? Read the Quran and it’s meaning in the language of your choice and understand the four conditions to be met for the meat to be Halal. It does NOT say any one to chose at your convenience.
6. What has been made lawful by God Almighty and what has been made unlawful by God Almighty CANNOT be overruled or overturned by any Prophet of any human being. “O Prophet, why do you prohibit [yourself from] what Allah has made lawful for you, seeking the approval of your wives? And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” Al Quran 66:1
Please do not quote out of context or in isolation but please READ and Understand the Quran and it’s detailed tafseer from an authentic source in the language of your choice.
May Allah Subhan-wa-taala keep us all guided and protected
@@saga5924 First of all. I'll make something very clear. This is a sahih hadith. Narrated by Aisha RA and passes all the conditions of it being sahih. It is in the chapter of doubts in Sahih Bukhari and comes after the hadith used by Sheikh Yasir to support his argument in this very video regarding trained hunt animals. When you are presenting an argument and including hadith, you should present all the hadiths directly related to the topic.
Having said that, this hadith is not against the verse in the Quran. If this argument was very clearly explained in the Quran there would not be two interpretations for it. The conditions for the meat to be Halal are very clear i.e. if the name of Allah has been taken then it's halal, if not taken then it's Haram but there is a third argument for conditions where it's not explicitly clear whether the name was taken or not. This is true even for Muslim countries. How do you know with surety that the halal meat you get in countries like Turkey or Pakistan, the person who slaughtered did take Allah's name. This hadith is related to the third condition where you may or may not know with certainty that Allah's name was taken. We have a Sahih Hadith which states that when in doubt, say bismillah and eat the meat as long as they are complying with other conditions. Rest Allah knows best. Also, I have read the Quran with Tafseer multiple times already. I would advise you to open your mind and study Sahih Hadiths. The Prophet was the best Aalim of the Quran and his authentic hadiths are his Tafseer of the Quran.
Why not eat just zabiha halal meat? Why do you have to have meat if it's not zabihah?
No conclusion as they are going back to refer to the books 😒
If you have doubts then dont eat.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
Respcted, do one thing once you are in neccssity then have meet supplied by others otherwise if you are in need of meet then do yourself after performing Allahs name and killing. Deen has to be followed in letter within time, space and circumstances you are in.Only one muslim should not intentionally have haram meet in voilation of quranic injunction and hadith in which we can take sunnat laid down by prophit. Better is become vegetarian and organic so that fiq on this pt. cannot create confusion. Jazakallah.
With AI am i only one fearing the authenticity of this video with the picture and voice
Both of them speaking the same thing...whats this debate all about.
@very nice..but still both are convinced with their practices and doesn't come to one standard.
Where is "And hold firmly to the rope of Allāh all together and do not become divided"
Its hard for me to explain to non-Muslims who is right or not.
Sheikh or right side seems flexible in his practice as US is not Christian country and meat market is not led by any Christian faith company. Secondly he said Surah Innam is Maki, so if any Surah is Maki then its irrelevant for today bze its for specific condition. Is it?
1. Problem is there is no way to ascertain that a person is Ahle-kitab. We have 50 percent population that doesn’t believe.
2. Also the slaughter ayat says, don’t eat from the meat that has been slaughtered with a name other than Allah.
3. Also if a Hindu (Sanatan Dharam) says the name of “Brahma” ultimate one-ness.. doesn’t it point to Allah. Also within Hindus are people of book as well, they do have a book.
4. If ayat of Quran are to be taken literally then Allah said marry people of the book, He didn’t specify man or woman.
5. Interestingly they didn’t bring up jugular vein thing popular among Asians and they didn’t go deep on chicken
The people of the books of the Christian do not accept the one ness of Allah
Aren’t we told to not Live n behave like non believers. If our eating is same like them allowed than we debunking that Hadith
Majority is not always correct mr Qadhi
Yet the Majority put both verses together and reconcile it. Makes it stronger.
Allah's name is not taken by Christians. They believe Jesus to be God. How can it be halal for you? At least the Arab Muslims say Allah & take the name of Allah when slaughtering the animal. I don't know why you people are delusion living in USA.
Soo much doubt in even halal slaughterhouses.....but happy to accept non halal slaughterhouse
Yasir qadhi opinion is valid here. I don't agree with him all the time. But you need to be careful of meat consumption in west specially. The majority of slaughtered meat in west is from athietst and agnostic. Like one can't marry from people of the book who fornicates. Reality is how many chaste Christians or jews women do you see. Similarly majority of them are agnostic or athietst so avoid the meat unless you are certain.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
I agree with sh. Yasir Birjas. I eat USDA inspected meat, which is an act made by Abraham Linclon to ensure the animal is slaughtered....is god name mention on it or not?!...idk...here is the important question. Should Allah's name be mentioned by ahl al ketab and as a muslim, should i make sure they mentioned it?. Or it's none of my business to search if they did or not, as long as i know they are from ahl al ketab. As i take from muslim butchers without checking if they did mention Allah's name or not. It's smth i have been struggling with since i moved to the US tbh. Not sure which raay is right....Dr Yasir Qadi opinion is safer and i believe it has more takwa msA...but also it might be unnecessary..alaho 23lam
Is not not important how u live ,instead of what u eat? 5:34
Hiding behavior nd scholars is a cop out. I have the majority (who took that census?)
Quaran commands not to eat meat on which other God's names have been pronounced. We are allowed to eat the food of Jews and Christians
Yes, but in west mostly slaughter houses are run by athietst. So we should be careful
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
If you can get certified kosher meet cerified by their orthodox scholars, then great. But otherwise, Christians don't care.
They just confused me even more than I was before I started to watch the video. What Shaikh goes to a restaurant that serves no halal meat?
There's this little thing called cross contamination!
Hence yasir qadhi opinion is more valid.
Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam said: Halal (lawful) is clear, and Haram (prohibited) is clear. In between them are certain doubtful things, concerning which most people do not know if they are Halal or Haram. Thus, whoever avoids the doubtful, safeguards his religion and honour. But one engaging in the doubtful, falls in the Haram, like the shepherd pasturing around a reserved zone, all but grazing therein. Verily every king has a reserved area, and Allah’s reserved area is His prohibitions…”
A person asked: “O Rasûl of Allâh! What is sin? (How can I understand whether the doubtful are sinful or not?)” Rasûlullâh Sallallâhu Alayhi Wa Sallam answered: “When you feel uncertain about something (whether it is Halal or Haram) avoid it (because it is sinful).
How come they can use the reference to make things Halal just because we eat meat the condition is for example bible is the book of Allah and to have a belief is fine, of course it's mandatory but after decent of Quran bible is not to follow unless it is in its original condition as it was revealed, the thing is no true followers of the Bible and the way they believe is totally haram so how come zabiyah of Christian is Halal no way. Kosher from yahoodi again the same rule Applies I have this argument and with this responsibility guarantee that even in the UK meat is not halal at large at small level there are possibilities by chance. So the scholars whatever they are saying they shouldn't strongly spread thier opinion but what Allah says about this time we are living, this era is of ulma e soh and ulma haq are observing quietly. So please don't eat the meat from Christian slaughtering, Allah Subhana Tala also says in the Quran that Kufar are not friends they will deceive you or throw a dust in your eyes, May Allah forgive me for anything unintentionally written here.
It’s not just the slaughter but also the way the animals are treated and they’re all factory farmed in the west and even in the east making the so called halal meat haram with a branding to appeal to Muslim.
These animals are not all factory farmed in the west. The US is predominantly Christian (people of the book) meaning the meat (other than pork) is permissible unless you know for sure that it was slaughtered in a haram manner
@@Vortex.08 yes they almost always are factory farmed, not only in the west, but also the east. It’s not possible to feed massive populations with open farms. If you did any research you’d know this. But u can continue justifying the cruelty for taste, that’s what Islam is all about obviously.
@@FahimusAlimus Ok well, the prophet pbuh still granted us permission to consume the meat of the people of the book without question. He never asked if an animal was slaughtered correctly or not from a Jew or Christian. Also, some Islamic countries still use this factory farming anyway. Does this make the meat haram? No, it was slaughtered by Muslims under the name of Allah which is all that is required.
@@Vortex.08 because it was halal. U do realise that meat being halal isn’t to do with who’s serving it but how it was obtained? There r specific guidances on how to treat the animal and if they r treated like scum, beaten, abused, kept in disgusting conditions, then all of those practices r haram and it doesn’t matter who’s doing it. The fact of the matter is, that is objectively the case with most of the meat today because it’s the most efficient method to feed the greedy population who want burgers and steak. The prophet treated animals kindly and rarely ate them. All of them do and yes it does, factory farming is objectively haram whether u like it or not and u trying to justify it is pathetic and goes against the Quran. If u think Islam allows breeding animals by raping them, keeping them crammed in their own faeces, having their babies taken away from them, then u r just delusional and should be embarrassed to call urself a Muslim. No it’s not, halal isn’t just the slaughter and whose name it’s done under. It’s like u don’t even get the concept, according to u, it would be ok to torture the animal for fun, skin them alive, put acid in their eyes, chop their limbs off and as long as u slaughter them under Allah’s name it’s halal and the torture of the animal just goes unpunished. That’s not how anything works, ur just using whatever u want to justify ur piggish habits because u don’t actually care. Products like milk and eggs don’t even have Allah’s name attached to them, they’re just torture. Bulls r masturbated to acquire semen which is beastiality and haram, the semen is then forced into a cow which is rape and beastiality so also haram, the cow gives birth but the calf is dragged away from her so it doesn’t drink the milk and the calf is killed for haram beef. Then the cow is drained of all her milk and the process is repeated until she’s too weak to continue and then she’s killed for haram beef. Does any of that sound halal to u? Islam has no association with that practice and the prophet who preached kindness to all of Allah’s creatures, wouldn’t even hurt a fly, would be disgusted.
Imams are taking making false statements to allow chicken companies to sell unhalal chicken. Why, because HAND CUT CHICKEN IS EXPENSIVE!!!
An animal raised according to Islam is not even supposed to see another animal while it's being slaughtered because it causes pain. The Islamic way is expensive but humane. It limits meat consumption because it makes it more labor-intensive thereby more expensive. This is actually a net positive for Humanity because having meet a couple times a week versus every meal leads to a lot of health problems and a lot of money wasted for the state in the case of the United States we're talking trillions of dollars out of the government pocketbook because people eat junk fast food. Is a zabeeha puts all of the cost up front while industrial Slaughter transfer the cost to the state through Healthcare expenses, if we built in the price of the healthcare cost in Chicken by any state including a country that doesn't have healthcare for all like the United States, the price of cheap chicken would more than triple
You know the state of eeman of muslims have reached all time low when you have to debate whether meat is halal or not
Yasir Birjas is Absolutely and 100% wrong . Perhaps he wants to take the modern day Muslims down the same path of convenience and astray as the Christian Priests who made Alcohol , Pork , Homosexuality etc okay as part of their religious belief system . Yasir Birjas wants to do the same with Muslims, start with chicken , then go to red meat , then to pork ,then to homosexuality, then to abandon Salah , Zakat , Haj etc and finally to associate something with God Almighty . This ignorant man of convenience is telling the Ummah which Surahs ( Chapters) of Quran are admissible and which Surahs are not admissible. This ignorant man - Yasir Barjis may finally end up with his own version of Quran retaining this Surahs / Chapters of Quran which suits his convenience living in the west and to abandon Surahs which does not suit him or those like him.. What a weird reasoning and fabrication he is propagating. May God guide him to what is the truth and what is right . PLEASE do not listen to such ignorant man such as Yasir Barjis who will surely lead a common man with lesser knowledge astray from the righteous path.
The stand taken by Sheikh Yasir Al Qadhi is the right and correct understanding and approach . Any meat on which the name of Allah Subhan-wa-taala has not been taken at the time of the slaughter is the overriding condition even if other conditions are met . What has been prohibited by Allah Subhan-wa-taala explicitly in the Majestic Quran can Never be overturned or overruled by any human being including the Prophet let alone any Barjis or Narjis.
Moreover the dietary laws of “ Ahlul Kitab “ all originate from Old Testament as there is nothing in New Testament. Most western countries are all secular and do not follow any dietary laws or practices of old testament except perhaps the Jews with their kosher meats.
Finally , the very first word revealed by Allah Subhan-wa-taala was “ Iqra” meaning READ. And the very first 6 verses revealed by Allah Subhan-wa-taala tells us to read , acquire knowledge etc. Allah Subhan-wa-taala could not emphasise more about reading , knowledge and understanding as the pillars of your faith . So please read the Quran to understand it’s meaning and tafseer in the language of your choice - the language you can understand. Make sure it’s meaning in your language is from an authentic source.
May Allah Subhan-wa-taala keep us protected from fitnah of any deviant and keep us guided to the only true and righteous path .
They are both wrong according the holy Quran. They are not debating each other from different viewpoints. They both agree on 98% of their talks. It was a waste of time.
One stupid thing u said that
Are you happy if someone who does not pray should also eat haram meat?
Let people eat halal food May Allah give them hidayat to pray as well.
Person who says Ulema says it means he is not Sheikh so stay away from him, Yasin Qadhi is a Sheikh because he didn't say ulama says, only Quran and hadeeth is Furqman.
Not ulama.
YQ position is more sensible because if not YB should also eat of the red meats as there is no condition that a knife must be used at the neck in Surah Al Maidah.
Yasser Qhadi Win. 😘😍 But I'm not Salafi.😁😁😁
There are kosher delis
I don't know if these comments will reach shaikh Yassir Qadi or not but the issue for newly immigrated religious scholars is not knowing the culture.
If they know the statistics most of the people in the United States identify themselves as agnostic or not believing in God. So that will take the whole debate back to surah Anam. Thre is more than likely chance that the person who slaughtered the animal is either agnostic or not a Christian (ahlul kitaab). Moreover even if they are identifying themselves as Christians while slaughtering they are usually cursing using words like goddamn etc which is opposite to word Bismillah.
So in no way any of the ahle kitaab versus apply on any slaughtering which is done in USA.
Shikh Yassir though did not mention any of that in his debate but his advantage is knowing the culture so obviously he is correct.
Agnostic is same as any other religion like Hinduism or other polytheism
1.Mere machine cut animal isn't fit for Muslim consumption.
2.Any name other than Allah while slaughtering if recited, it is also not halal for Muslims.
3.If a corrupt a'qeeda, like kafirs, wahabis, shias or a qadiyani if recites Allahs' name at the time slaughtering an animal, that zabeeha isn't fit for Muslims.
4.Using tapes that repeat BISMILLAHI ALLAHU AKBER at the time of slaughtering an animal, is also not zabeeha for Muslims. Chicken are slaughtered this way.
5.Applying high voltage electric shock to the animal being slaughtered makes the zabeeha very doubtful and hence this kind of zabeeha isn't halal for Muslims.
6.The slaughtered meat if not kept under observation of a Muslim, from the time of slaughtering to the time of consumption is also not halal for a Muslim. Most of the refrigerated meat comes under this category. If this facility isn't under the control of Muslims, forget this slaughtered zabeeha to be halal.
7. Resiting Allahs' name on the knife in the beginning, then slaughtering several animals, may make the very first animal consumeable, but the rest of the animals slaughtered aren't halal at all.
1) Machine cut is halal as long as a human is operating it.
2) true
3) no such thing as wahabis, and all food of a muslim is halal until proven otherwise. Don't assume, ya takfiri
4) true
5) wrong, it's been proven the animal doesn't die
6) no, this is a biddah, found in the subcontinent
7) no, this makes no sense, it's all halal until proven otherwise
Why are you making it difficult
You are making up your own rules
Too technical, dude.
You just like chicken, you can't hardly any none Islamic meat, or meat in the west. Because it's about money.