32:32 "I'm no singer but-" Mr. Welt Yang, sir, you had an entire IDOL CAREER to fund Anti-Entropy alongside Kevin, leader of World Serpent and Otto Apocalypse of Schiskal???
@@Tiyac3Genshin has a good story... But theres no stakes for the characters, the closest it ever had been is Xiao about to die but Zhongli saved him. But If stakes are what makes a story good for certain people, Genshin is definitely not one then. But I definitely would've loved If Genshin had real stakes
"Positive and Wholesome story" - Thus Spoke Shaoji "The story will be more chill,carefree and upbeat" - Thus Spoke Da Wei "The world allows a mind to find another matching vessel, but it does not allow a vessel to gather the pieces of a mind To save the one and only her, I can only create new possibilities in the past. This other future, will be a future that belongs to her. Firefly, live on." - Thus Spoke The Trailblazer "Now I have become Otto, The Aeon of Apocalypse" - Thus Spoke The Captain
I like Penacony so far, it's got a murder mystery vibe to it because we can't trust anyone other than our own companion. We don't know who's pulling the strings and the first part of the story is simply an introduction to a bigger chaos just like Fontaine part 1.
and sampo hinting something really bad gonna happen on belobog.. ohh god chills.. in the moment all of it, dan heng partying at new year festival haha@@renflare2570
@@bunniixsan the word she said was actually misinterpreted, it means "socialite" not pr*stitute. people need to listen to the chinese community and stop spreading this shit around god....
Me the first time I met Sampo in Panacony: "Why are you here?" Him intruducing himslef: "I'm Sampo." Me: "No you not! That's not how he intruduces himself!" knew it since that moment because he always says Sampo Koski 😆
My mind during part 1 of Penacony kept asking myself “Since when is Sampo this smart and knowledgeable? He’s definitely street smart but this is too much for him.”
I thought it was just Sampo joking when he called Firefly March on our first encounter in Penacony. Now it all makes sense and it was just an amazing crumb of hint thrown at us. These writers man, they ain't playing.
Ever since we first met him in the 1.6 livestream, I've had this STRONG feeling that Sunday is gonna give us the hsr version of "AZAR!!!!" and just go straight up unhinged in a cutscene. And the ending of this quest only solidified that for me.
@@projectmoonsleeperagent In another story I know where the swordfighter doesn't unsheath their sword, it's because it hurts them... I wonder if acheron has something similar going on
@@projectmoonsleeperagent going with aventurine theory on it i would imagine it's like sealing her emanator power, where if she unseathes her sword she'll act as an emanator and not as herself
Luocha is in my party throughout the quest…As my Luocha stood there on the rooftop looking out to the city sky after finishing the quest…i said to myself “now i know how you feel”…as he pulled out his coffin idle animation 😅
2:28:55 I dunno if it's confirmed or not but I'm convinced (at least at this moment) that Mikhail is Misha. My only proof is that Mikhail's voice sounds like Mishas and that Misha is a nickname for Mihail or Mikhail. But I am just a regular player so I could be wrong. Edit: Or Mikhail is somehow related to Misha
Carries a pocketwatch with him everywhere, can see Clockie, seems to have something to do with Acheron. It's always the butler. Either he wants to end the dream, the false illusion of it, and he hired her, or he lured her there to stop all the other parties, The Family included. OR he and Acheron both can control "Unto Death", which I find less likely because that would mean Hoyo is making their favorite child a baddie who can lie like no other. I ride or die with Acheron. Feels like she has to careing of a disposition for it to be false.
Misha is a nickname for Mikhail in Russian (check Wikipedia). I'd guess that Misha is Mikhail or is related/connected to him and probably to watchmaker in some way
Watching the Firefly scenes after the latest update REALLY recontextualizes a lot of her lines. As well as Sampo's actions. The writing is absolutely amazing.
Off topic though, I find the theory of the Stelleron Hunters being the dark versions to the Astral Express Nameless quite plausible…After learning that Penacony’s Watchmaker was a Nameless, its not a stretch that the founder of the Stelleron Hunters could be a former Nameless…maybe Elio was one of us…
To be specific, I do think Elio may have been a Trailblazer, possibly one of the original too as we know immortals and long-life species exist. I think the reason Pom Pom doesn't say anything to suggest they remember Elio is because I believe Elio was not the name they used at the time. It's strange, I've figured Firefly out even without the leaks, but Acheron and Elio I have no clue, other than I do believe Aventurine is wrong about Acheron being an Emanator, though if she is, Finality is the correct option I'd say given the inspiration (literally taken) of her name and it's connection to the Underworld
Acheron dropping little nods to Kiana or Kevin depending on if you chose the male or female MC, and directly quoting Yae Sakura from Elysian Realm… just who are you Mei but not Mei…?
If you choose Caelus, you get the "cross blades" instead of "standing shoulder to shoulder" like with Stelle. This could also reference to Kevin (Kiana's great great great great great great grandpa), 1st of the 13 Flamechasers.
24:10 if u refuse he gives u double 😂 honestly when i refused is cuz i really didnt want anything from him and then he gave me double and i felt attacked 😂😂😂
there are so many interesting clues and moments all around the quest. i’m just gonna summarise some of them here, feel free to add more! - Acheron we met at the start of the quest seems different from the Acheron we meet later in the quest. Her demeanour at the start of quest is so much more confident, she knows about the dreamscape, how it works and where everything is. However, during the quest she seems pretty clueless and very disoriented. - There is a chance Robin have been impersonated throughout the quest, considering Welt and March noticed there was something off about her voice - There is a clip of Sampo talking to someone back during the Belobog quest, when we thought he was breaking the 4th wall Seems like he was actually talking to Sparkle, he mention us and even Tavern - At some point in the quest when Acheron offers help, if we are to refuse her multiple times, there is a option pops up in red, making us unable to refuse her - Misha and Mikhail are either the same person (‘Misha’ is a short version of the name ‘Mikhail’) or they could be related - Acheron never drew her sword - When Sparkle was attacked and her body turned into goop, you can see a firefly or one small orb flying out of her - Robin’s wound is in the same spot as Firefly’s - Sam’s mecha suit has fire coming out of it on its chest in the same spot as Firefly’s details on the dress. He also has wings in the same colour scheme. But the whole wing thing to be fair almost looks like Sam from the trailer is different from Same in the quest. (we never see Sam use his wings in the quest and we never see Sam use his fire missiles in the trailer when fighting Acheron) - if you refuse to learn the truth with Aventurine, there is an alternative ending scripted by Elio - Acheron never said her name is Acheron, she always said ‘that’s what they call me’
3:12:00 Something I noticed might be something or not…When Sam was “analysing” us before the fight he “selected” Black Swan and Acheron but not the trailblazer. He didn’t really mention us.
My experience in Penacony so far. I earned myself a babysister called Firefly and no one shall come near her or else I'll beat you up. This one time I see a female character not a 'waifu' type but an actual character that I just wish to spend a long time with.
I only finished the penacony story today and rewatching it right after made me realize some creepy things about Acheron… I’m so excited for the next patches to continue the story. I really hope it stays this creepy and sad, I love it!
I think a huge difference between Firefly and Tingyun's death is we barely get to know who Tingyun is while with Firefly we were given some time to know and make friends with her, basically growing a much more emotional connection towards her. With Robin i think her death serves as surprise and a build up for the next part of the story, unlike Tingyun who died for the sake of revealing a twist villain we don't even care about.
Yea, although we don't get too much time with firefly before they killed here as well, at least it's heartwarming with her especially during the roof, and it's much better than whatever the fuck they are doing with that tingyun death
@@ymw1107 honestly it's not like it was a bad thing, they clearly know that Tingyun's "death" was twist factor by how they have the funeral for her disappearance next patch compared to now with Firefly. Tingyun was simply not meant to make you sad and that's perfectly fine
Firefly was killed way too early in my opinion. There wasn't enough time to develop the relationship between Firefly and the Trailblazer, we barely got to know Firefly and only spent a few moments with her, are we to believe that the Trailblazer cares deeply for this person that he only just met? Their relationship was just rushed, in a way Firefly was killed for shock value just like Tingyun's.. (because we all know Firefly is going to come back)
@@wongo6828 Even of her death feels rushed for us, it seems like she planned to die intentionally. We barely have any context tbh, let Shaoji cook he won't fail
EN Sparkle is too tame. They censored the EN version when Sparkle said Aventurine stripped down and on his knees for Sunday. Sparkle is more savage than that. She implies that Aventurine sleeps with Sunday. Sparkle is truly a gamer with those insults.
I watched multiple play throughs but just realized no one, aside from clockie acknowledges misha. March 7th interrupt him. But said nothing about him The gangsters conflict was with archron only mentions her If you choose other options when helping archron firefly gets confused And archron thanks the mc but never thanks the bellboy who stood beside her throughout the conflict.
I love that you are never afraid to give your true opinions. Other content creators just act hype and pretend to cry because that's what viewers like to see.
This is way better the whole Luofu's main story. Hope that it actually deliver in later parts. However, I feel a bit off with Firefly's death bc I think the time we spent with her is way too short it's almost like they shove all the perfect ingredients to make very sad death(sad music, deadly illness, commemorate photo) but didn't give enough time to simmer. Her death is still way more impactful than Tingyun's "death", I just don't feel as sad as I thought.
Honestly, I don't think they expect us to believe she really is dead. It was too fast and obvious. But something suspicious is going on and her "death" is a part of it.
I think the boss' mechanic plays into this. Theyre not truly dead, but stored somewhere. The way Sunday says "'Death' has taken them" corroborates that theory. Robin and Firefly will be back and pullable, for once I dont think this is copium. At least Firefly will definitely be ok..
@@thewizof0275 That's my pet peeve with Tingyun's death. I really don't like when they give sad/shocking "supposedly" death but reveal that they're alive all along. (As a One Piece, I know this pain quite well.) I think it's more ok to go for reviving route bc it can be the goal that TB can go for, but I prefer killed character to stay dead in most cases. * At least, Firefly's death gave TB some meaningful emotion.
It really all depends on the next patch for the story, on whether we'll look back fondly on this, or poorly. Right now, if that's really...it, to not just Firefly, but also Robin AND Duke Inferno... Then yeah, I gotta say I'm majorly disappointed. A lot of characters killed, solely for shock value and little more. With Firefly being introduced and going all the cliche tropes to try to get you to feel attached to her, when we all know where it's going... But she ended up being so suspicious, that i really didn't feel much of anything when she 'died.' Again, this could all end up being excellent, IF the next part of the story is done well. If not, then all of this will have been just a poorly written waste. Hoping they stick the landing with it in the next patch. But I do think it's too early to say this is 'better' than the Luofu arc. People LOVED that story when it first started, all the way up to 1.2. Adored it and sang it praises. They just kinda got bored being stuck there as it dragged on, with it peaking at Phantylia fight and then kinda just months and months of not good or average story content waiting for Penacony. Now that Penacony is here, we got the rose tinted glasses. But to me, I can't help but feel like Penacony will either be looked back on fondly, or poorly, based on what they do AFTER this patch. And hopefully not just do stuff solely for shock value and no substance.
I started Penacony DOWN HORRENDOUS for Acheron and now I ended it with DEPRESSION for what they did with FIrefly and Robin. I saw SHAMPOO KIOSK and that was the start of the descent to depression. I'm sad that all my fav characters are getting killed: first Tingyun, now Firefly and Robin. BUT HERE'S A COPING THEORY: what if "Death" actually just captured them instead? Just like the mechanic in-game? (I know I'm coping so hard but I just want them to at least be playable before they actually kill them. This is freaking HONKAI, they have the BALLS to kill characters unlike GENSHIN) Honkai: Star Rail? More like "DEPRESSION: Star Rail"
His chat messages when you get his character from gacha seem to be after character interactions of future trailblazer quests. Really weird they did that.
when i played this last week, the convo between Aventurine and Sparkle read mute instead of rock. I figured she said rock to be inoffensive and they just didnt change the text, but seems it was originally rock in the first place?
Firefly is a Stellaron Hunter and the pieces can be gathered from all the clues and connections surrounding her. She was a stowaway like Sam was implied to be, she is after the Watchmaker's legacy like all the factions seem to be after too. She calls out to a Mecha(the only one here being Sam?), which also suggests she knows Silver Wolf (Sam's partner this time) to get the code to get into the true Dreamscape. And refuses to expose her identity saying it's not the right "time" (Elio's script?).
She also exposes during the conversation with Clockie that she's an experienced enough fighter to have critiques of our weapon of choice (and also analyze Sampo's capabilities as a fighter from a distance just by looking at him)
Something I think some people missed is that in the Myriad Celestial Trailer is that the cards are actually Deaths hitlist. Everyone person attacked was someone from the cards, starting with the good duke
I don't know if someone mentioned it already or not but the name Mikhail and Misha it's the same name. Misha it's like a nickname or just informal way to say Mikhail. At least in Russia
I am so pleased that you have put Star Rail back onto the channel. I found Penacony emotional and shocking at times. Can't wait to find out what is happening
One thing that stands out to me about Firefly's scene and why Acheron didn't draw her blade against the meme: Acheron said she can't recognize people with her memories, but through emotions (how she felt about them). And the part where it says Black Swan pitted enemies against each other (Acheron vs Sam) to get the TB out of there is quite sus. Which brings me to my crack conclusion: Firefly = Sam. Maybe in the dreamscape, Sam and Firefly are two distinct beings, but in the real world, Firefly may be Sam's AI module/interface or something. That scene where the meme attacked Firefly, it could be that Acheron didn't draw her sword to save her, because in her subconscious, Firefly is Sam, who is her enemy, of which she would have no reason or inclination to save.
Yeah thats what i thought as well. Her giving that bad excuse that she didn't react was not believable. We just got told that she single-handedly took on the Everflame Mansion and killed the head. We also witnessed it when we first met her and she 'slashed' us in less than a blink. In that moment, Acheron did not want to save Firefly from Death, but she also did not know why.
I dont get why bran hates aventurine that much but apparently sparkle is totally ok just a little crazy tho. Honestly what did aventurine do to deserve this amount of hate? He gave us his room he did nothing bad to us, only some of his words are concerning. Meanwhile we got sparkle who stalked us, hypnotised us, tried to jarm us and is partly responsible for fireflies death. The only reason i can think of why its this way is because ones a waifu and the other a guy.
I just got to the penacony and dreamscape and my god this place is fkn amazing! This is one of the coolest areas I have been in a game in a long time it’s so fun just walking around and exploring it and listening to the OST! It’s gunna be hard for Startail to top this area and chunk of the story it’s a masterpiece 🔥🔥
WELCOME TO THE TRUE REAL HONKAI STORY Experience, Where Writer of the Honkai Series can Freely kill the Character that you love so much in many possible ways = is will Wholesome And Positive Story - Shaoji
Firefly's death is literally teppei's death except she has a good character design. Whe literally known her for an hour and we are supposed to be sad about her dead? Even less when literally 3 minutes after her death the trailblazer has already gotten over it.
@@eduardogc1404 that was explained as a mental trick from Black Swan who needs Trailblazer composed for the upcoming fight with Sam. Still I have a feeling we are not done with Flrefly yet in upcoming stories.
I was super surprised by her death because in my opinion she was given too much character development for her to just die off, especially after the rooftop stuff.
Definitely better than 1.x (aside from OG Belobog story) story lines, HSR just seems to suffer from a pacing issue that I hope they really get a handle on at some point. I personally didnt really care for Firefly or Robins deaths (or are they...? LOL). There just wasnt any time to get to know them or have any kind of relationship build with them for me to care about them. Its a double Tingyun situation for me. I hope the story stays this strong and interesting and doesnt have the same fall as the Xianzhou.
Well, it was so sudden, and we didn't even really know Firefly XD she was so suspicious, it was more just done for shock value, instead of a really sad moment
I've never liked smiley bad guys, except Aventurine, i like him because he's doing an awful good job of intimidating me, it's his usage of tone and micro expressions...
Its sad she died in the dream world but I dont feel sad at all. It was WAY too sudden from meeting her to her gettin impaled to have any emotional impact.
"I've been waiting here for more than 10 minutes. 🙄" Bruh, I've had to wait for 1 and a half hours to get on a Disney World ride, literally get over it.
17:58: It's an omen of things to come XD 1:12:00: Thank you for being different from the rest of youtube who picks the SAFE options 1:13:10: Not Yet XD, We'll see
Heh, once again I'm seeing those scenes and I'm happy Hoyo actually bothered to make some characters as they are (e.g. Sparkle being an absolute menace)
On one hand it is true that Acheron protected us, on the other it is true that Aventurine doesn't seem like the final boss, the stellaron hunters need us alive and there's still the fact that the trailblazers are deeply connected to Penacony. We still don't know what's the deal with Misha. This is all I shall bother to remember for now
As a Tasmanian, I feel like a world founded as a prison feels very true to life. Also Australia's first casino was here. That said, Tasmania isn't very exciting, but it is pretty.
Potential spoilers for the story below. The fact that he can hear the thing with robins voice is impressive. Because in the story her voice is actually messed up for lore reasons. So that's pretty cool. Not even I heard it when I played through it first but now... it's very apparent.
Spoilers: Not sure if it was only me, but this is my first Honkai game and honestly when Firefly "died" I had no idea what happened... is she dead, literally? Is her consciousness destroyed? When she "died" I didnt even feel a huge amount of shock and my reasoning for that was that I don't really know anything about her, all I know is that she had some disassociation disease with her mind and body and that she was after the "watchmakers Legacy". If anyone wants to discuss this please feel free I really wanna talk about this because I feel as though I missed something and im not feeling the right things. Also I still trust Acheron honestly, even if she is an Emenator I never gauged her to have malicious intent in the slightest and she seemed like the more genuine character to me during the story quest even though I knew obviously she has more to her.
SPOILERS (Do the Penacony quest pls) Not to be toxic, but after finishing the quest and reflecting on what the hell just happened I felt as this didn't stack up to the same set up as Honkai Impact 3rd's set-up. I know it's the first act but that is exactly the reason why it feels so jarring killing off characters without letting it play off over time. Constructive Criticism wise the beginning was a very nice refreshing fresh breath of air, as the expectations were set up like the sudden dream with Mei (Calling her Mei because she reminds me of Raiden Mei lolol) and the explanation that previous Trailblazers stayed on Penacony for an unknown reason, bravo for the exposition. World building is gorgeous with the music, visuals, and interactions between characters/NPCs of the world alongside introducing the dream scape, then we skip a little to Firefly. Ngl I felt as if she was forced into the story because of how predictable a certain Honkai Impact 3rd writer wrote her (COUGH COUGH wholesome totally) and the similar design she had to another character, besides that, death flags were set on her especially with the clique that she will be guaranteed to die. (Common from this writer.) After some filler content that should not be in the first act ffs and a wonderful interaction alone with Firefly the tension starts building up as YOU the player realizes how messed up things really are. This is where this gets really tricky, because new characters start showing up with little foresight like Black Swan or tiny hints of a monster or even Sam's arrival adding up more build up for a climax right? Yeah, we do get a climax after being diluted with brand new information we didn't get time to digest it. Firefly's unjustified death, an example of why you SHOW not TELL; A.K.A. her build up leading to a mess of other characters trying to explain why Firefly died. I was more focused on the puzzle and not getting caught instead of reflecting what the hell just happened after her death. Also what is up with the reactions of the other characters? MC is sad which is cool, then everyone just forgives and forgets? (Except for the MC) BTW, where the hell are the other trailblazer members in the story because aren't they suppose to have some connection based on the exposition? IPC dude proceeds to tell us that a main villian that is hyped up died off screen. . . Then Robin's Murder Mystery scene that is just told to us that Firefly did it without letting the player digest it. Conclusion: Amazing entry, then the plot line does a hard right turn alongside with another hard right turn. Nothing felt concluded at the end story wise because nothing was really fully explained. Also side note: What the hell is IPC man doing here anymore? Isn't he here for some rock but now is a double faced agent? I'm going to fairly compare this Act I to other similar quests like Fontaine Act I or the first few chapters of HI3. Fontaine introduced us to the world of Fontaine instantly connecting us to characters and SHOWing us what Fontaine is all about, we get a climax with a certain trial concluding that trial and getting questions on what is the next act. HI3 had a similar thing with world building, introducing bonds and relationships, a compelling story, a climax with a conclusion and questions. However the difference between these Entries are that in HSR there were really no conclusions with an alarming increasing rate of questions while Fontaine and Early chapters of HI3 gave us closure on something while giving us tad bits for a questions and speculations. Questions: I am so confused on the ending. Can someone please give me a brief summary on what the future of this story can be? Why are the other Trailblazers not able to be teleported to where the MC was? Why is Sam here again, or at least the clue of why he is here. Are these death really justified for a story this early on? I was to hear what people think, I'm open to people's opinion on this, please don't be scared to say what you have on your mind. Edit: I really enjoy the discussion in the replies section with all of you guys. Thank you so much for spending some time analyzing / recapping the story with me.
to try answer your questions: 1) which part of the ending? if it's the Sunday/Sparkle bit, then they show us that Sunday knows everything and is just waiting for the right time and for the culprit to show themselves. in future versions we might learn who Acheron really is, what Aventurine's plan is and so on. 2) i dont think they can teleport 3) Sam was presumably with Firefly to help her get to Watchmaker but something went wrong on their way there 4) what i will say is in hi3 character deaths are usually sad, but in hsr they are shocking (Tingyun, Firefly, Robin). also it just can be a misdirect, they might not even be dead
Ok my theory. Sam is firefly. She was the only character we didn’t see in the beginning. Sam is her body in the “real world” because she can’t use her own body also before black swan saved us the first time it looked like she was getting ready to fight the monster and when she “died” you can see orange light coming out of her aswell,Sam initially only threaten Acheron and black swan not the MC. Acheron is obviously not the bad guy here but she might lose control of herself at times. I think sone people must be stuck in the dream probably the old prisoners of penacony. The IPC is trying to get too much control sparkle is trying to get the family to stand up against them (and also she just wants to watch the world burn like the joker that’s why she keeps saying “why so serious”)
i see it as this part of the story is really just a setup for the next parts, in dont think firefly is dead, and if you want a good video why watch unreal dreamers video about the companion quest from sparkle and black swan, why is there no real conclusion you may ask, well its just the beginning, a setup to whats still coming, we know that the story goes until 2.3 so we have still so much more to uncover here, sure it def felt a bit rushed but that was i think every story from hsr up until now and i dont mind that, but i can also see why some people dont like it, at the end of the day i dont wanna judge the whole story until we have seen everything and it concluded, because so much can still happen and be explained, that judging it now will probably just lead to nothing as other things are gonna be exposed and explained in the future patches of the story, so we need to wait until it finished to really judge the arc in its entirety, but thats just how i see it
To answer the questions: - Aventurine is here to reclaim Penacony as he confirmed when speaking with Ratio. Penacony previously was a prison owned by the IPC, but later it eventually turned out into the hotel thanks to the Stellaron and Aeon of Harmony - It may be due to the fact of our close bonds with Black Swan. Acheron mentioned earlier she had awaken something in the Trailblazer + we were only ones in the dream at the start of the quest, thus further proving the MC different reactions to dreams and memoria. - Sam is here probably for the Stellaron, just the work of Stellaron Hunters. As we know, Penacony was built mostly by the help of Stellaron - At this point, we cannot confirm if it's real death or not. The monster's name says it is "Something unto death", however it's tactics are most likely stealing souls. There's also a theory about Firefly, but idk if you want to know it. As for the Duke Inferno, I highly believe it was faked, a lie or if not, the gang will come back.
Thank you so much for the clarification@@dancingkeomi 1) If Robin is already died, then why did the body conveniently bubbled off when the MC sees it or was it a vision of the past dug up by IPC dude? 2) Fair enough. 3) That explains a bit on a possibility of why Firefly got there, however, is there an explanation on why Sam specifically was there in the first place (except for Watchmaker) or is that still a mystery yet to be solved. 4) I can see your point, HI3 rarely did shock deaths and mostly did long term deaths that has been built up to or is a set-up for the future. I just feel a little disappointed this wasn't given time to digest until Act II, however, people do have to wait 7 weeks lmao.
Knowing what happens with certain characters being "unalived" (with no context though, I don't wanna get spoiled any further). Really made me sad while playing the story quests, tainting the experience. Man why do I feel such strong emotions to fictional characters? First Oshi no Ko, now this?
I will never trust any of the words that leave Aventurine's mouth. He's plotting something I'm 100% sure. Also when Black Swan was talking about the truth it was in quotation which usually hints toward the opposite of the word.
I think u just helped me to realise that robin was sparkle all along and firefly was the real robin and thats why she was killed the sameway as firefly
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Mr. Welt Yang, sir, you had an entire IDOL CAREER to fund Anti-Entropy alongside Kevin, leader of World Serpent and Otto Apocalypse of Schiskal???
Penacony has shown us more clearly why this game has the word "honkai" in front 💀
Hell yes 😂
Only Honkai has better story?
@@Tiyac3Genshin has a good story... But theres no stakes for the characters, the closest it ever had been is Xiao about to die but Zhongli saved him. But If stakes are what makes a story good for certain people, Genshin is definitely not one then. But I definitely would've loved If Genshin had real stakes
@@Tiyac3
Games with Honkai in their names are typically better in terms of story for Gacha Games (HG2,HI3 and HSR).
@@Tiyac3 only honkai will kill favorite characters/playable characters
"Penacony is positive and heartwarming"
Bro why are you everywhere....
"Positive and Wholesome story"
- Thus Spoke Shaoji
"The story will be more chill,carefree and upbeat"
- Thus Spoke Da Wei
"The world allows a mind to find another matching vessel, but it does not allow a vessel to gather the pieces of a mind
To save the one and only her, I can only create new possibilities in the past. This other future, will be a future that belongs to her.
Firefly, live on."
- Thus Spoke The Trailblazer
"Now I have become Otto, The Aeon of Apocalypse"
- Thus Spoke The Captain
when they say it about “honkai” you know you can’t trust them
For someone said =)) Wholesome story
That little Masked Fool had us in a trap.
I like Penacony so far, it's got a murder mystery vibe to it because we can't trust anyone other than our own companion. We don't know who's pulling the strings and the first part of the story is simply an introduction to a bigger chaos just like Fontaine part 1.
And then theres sparkle who can disguise herself into anyone....oh boy
and sampo hinting something really bad gonna happen on belobog.. ohh god chills.. in the moment all of it, dan heng partying at new year festival haha@@renflare2570
@@renflare2570 The biggest game of among us has started
@@rakhaanantabaskoro4461 I saw march vent
I immediatley thought, when seeing the train jump intro-thing, "Yep, a murder has definetly happened here." Can't wait to find out more!
2:03:56 bran had the same reaction as me- sparkle really said "apologize naked on your knees" i was so shocked hoyo would put that XD
It's actually toned down in English version XD In Chinese she basically calles him a wh*re
I was so uncertain about wanting sparkle even though she’ll be great for IL Dan. That scene alone made me like her character which is great.
in HI3 theyve said worse lol this one woman named rita told natasha (shes also in HI3) put ur hands up, get on the ground and spread ur legs 😂
@@5Klo5I NEED o know what she said. Y know. For science
@@bunniixsan the word she said was actually misinterpreted, it means "socialite" not pr*stitute. people need to listen to the chinese community and stop spreading this shit around god....
Me the first time I met Sampo in Panacony:
"Why are you here?"
Him intruducing himslef:
"I'm Sampo."
Me: "No you not! That's not how he intruduces himself!"
knew it since that moment because he always says Sampo Koski 😆
Sampo is also on Penacony
My mind during part 1 of Penacony kept asking myself “Since when is Sampo this smart and knowledgeable? He’s definitely street smart but this is too much for him.”
Also his speech pattern was off.
I thought it was just Sampo joking when he called Firefly March on our first encounter in Penacony. Now it all makes sense and it was just an amazing crumb of hint thrown at us. These writers man, they ain't playing.
Lol it instantly made me think it wasn’t Sampo xD
@@Blackout_ They got me there. My detective dreams are over
@@SeraSeraYT Some people even saying they got it as soon as they didn't say his full name of "Sampo Koski" but just said "Sampo" like damn
Oh he says his name is Sampo after he calls her March so those people realised it later but still crazy way to realise it
@@Blackout_ Exactly! And here I thought I was paying attention. Looking back now, there's just too many subtle hints that I easily disregarded
Ever since we first met him in the 1.6 livestream, I've had this STRONG feeling that Sunday is gonna give us the hsr version of "AZAR!!!!" and just go straight up unhinged in a cutscene. And the ending of this quest only solidified that for me.
at 3:13:22 you can see that for some reason she didnt draw her blade, she is fighting with her sheath
yea i feel like alot of people are missing the fact that she still have never drew her blade yet on screen cause these fights happens so fast
It was said in her drip marketing that she never unsheathes her sword. I wonder if we’ll ever actually see it happen.
@@projectmoonsleeperagent In another story I know where the swordfighter doesn't unsheath their sword, it's because it hurts them... I wonder if acheron has something similar going on
@@liathelie8805 Maybe. My headcanon is that her sword doesn’t actually have a sheathe and it’s more like a baseball bat.
@@projectmoonsleeperagent going with aventurine theory on it i would imagine it's like sealing her emanator power, where if she unseathes her sword she'll act as an emanator and not as herself
Luocha is in my party throughout the quest…As my Luocha stood there on the rooftop looking out to the city sky after finishing the quest…i said to myself “now i know how you feel”…as he pulled out his coffin idle animation 😅
2:28:55 I dunno if it's confirmed or not but I'm convinced (at least at this moment) that Mikhail is Misha. My only proof is that Mikhail's voice sounds like Mishas and that Misha is a nickname for Mihail or Mikhail. But I am just a regular player so I could be wrong.
Edit: Or Mikhail is somehow related to Misha
Im thinking he could be related to the Nameless that stayed at Penacony, maybe Misha is their descendant
Carries a pocketwatch with him everywhere, can see Clockie, seems to have something to do with Acheron. It's always the butler. Either he wants to end the dream, the false illusion of it, and he hired her, or he lured her there to stop all the other parties, The Family included. OR he and Acheron both can control "Unto Death", which I find less likely because that would mean Hoyo is making their favorite child a baddie who can lie like no other.
I ride or die with Acheron. Feels like she has to careing of a disposition for it to be false.
Misha is a nickname for Mikhail in Russian (check Wikipedia). I'd guess that Misha is Mikhail or is related/connected to him and probably to watchmaker in some way
@@3DDDDDDD.........a Misha could possibly be the descendant because in his lightcone he gets the badge every nameless wears, but that's just a theory.
@@lonelywolf777 i do speak russian so that's why it stood out to me so much.
Watching the Firefly scenes after the latest update REALLY recontextualizes a lot of her lines. As well as Sampo's actions. The writing is absolutely amazing.
Off topic though, I find the theory of the Stelleron Hunters being the dark versions to the Astral Express Nameless quite plausible…After learning that Penacony’s Watchmaker was a Nameless, its not a stretch that the founder of the Stelleron Hunters could be a former Nameless…maybe Elio was one of us…
To be specific, I do think Elio may have been a Trailblazer, possibly one of the original too as we know immortals and long-life species exist.
I think the reason Pom Pom doesn't say anything to suggest they remember Elio is because I believe Elio was not the name they used at the time.
It's strange, I've figured Firefly out even without the leaks, but Acheron and Elio I have no clue, other than I do believe Aventurine is wrong about Acheron being an Emanator, though if she is, Finality is the correct option I'd say given the inspiration (literally taken) of her name and it's connection to the Underworld
Mia sadge
After finishing this story arc and rewatching a playthrough of it. A lot of the clues at the start adds up
Acheron dropping little nods to Kiana or Kevin depending on if you chose the male or female MC, and directly quoting Yae Sakura from Elysian Realm… just who are you Mei but not Mei…?
Considering who's writing the Penacony story and having made such a strong start i can't wait for the other updates :)
If you choose Caelus, you get the "cross blades" instead of "standing shoulder to shoulder" like with Stelle. This could also reference to Kevin (Kiana's great great great great great great grandpa), 1st of the 13 Flamechasers.
Are we kiana all along?
@@cathpalug1221 We at least remind her of her
24:10 if u refuse he gives u double 😂 honestly when i refused is cuz i really didnt want anything from him and then he gave me double and i felt attacked 😂😂😂
there are so many interesting clues and moments all around the quest. i’m just gonna summarise some of them here, feel free to add more!
- Acheron we met at the start of the quest seems different from the Acheron we meet later in the quest.
Her demeanour at the start of quest is so much more confident, she knows about the dreamscape, how it works and where everything is. However, during the quest she seems pretty clueless and very disoriented.
- There is a chance Robin have been impersonated throughout the quest, considering Welt and March noticed there was something off about her voice
- There is a clip of Sampo talking to someone back during the Belobog quest, when we thought he was breaking the 4th wall
Seems like he was actually talking to Sparkle, he mention us and even Tavern
- At some point in the quest when Acheron offers help, if we are to refuse her multiple times, there is a option pops up in red, making us unable to refuse her
- Misha and Mikhail are either the same person (‘Misha’ is a short version of the name ‘Mikhail’) or they could be related
- Acheron never drew her sword
- When Sparkle was attacked and her body turned into goop, you can see a firefly or one small orb flying out of her
- Robin’s wound is in the same spot as Firefly’s
- Sam’s mecha suit has fire coming out of it on its chest in the same spot as Firefly’s details on the dress. He also has wings in the same colour scheme. But the whole wing thing to be fair almost looks like Sam from the trailer is different from Same in the quest. (we never see Sam use his wings in the quest and we never see Sam use his fire missiles in the trailer when fighting Acheron)
- if you refuse to learn the truth with Aventurine, there is an alternative ending scripted by Elio
- Acheron never said her name is Acheron, she always said ‘that’s what they call me’
3:12:00 Something I noticed might be something or not…When Sam was “analysing” us before the fight he “selected” Black Swan and Acheron but not the trailblazer. He didn’t really mention us.
2:01 Holy **that scene** was already pointed out in the time express was jumping 😨
My experience in Penacony so far.
I earned myself a babysister called Firefly and no one shall come near her or else I'll beat you up.
This one time I see a female character not a 'waifu' type but an actual character that I just wish to spend a long time with.
I only finished the penacony story today and rewatching it right after made me realize some creepy things about Acheron… I’m so excited for the next patches to continue the story. I really hope it stays this creepy and sad, I love it!
She didn't draw her blade during sam fight, it's still sheathed
Really?
I think a huge difference between Firefly and Tingyun's death is we barely get to know who Tingyun is while with Firefly we were given some time to know and make friends with her, basically growing a much more emotional connection towards her.
With Robin i think her death serves as surprise and a build up for the next part of the story, unlike Tingyun who died for the sake of revealing a twist villain we don't even care about.
Yea, although we don't get too much time with firefly before they killed here as well, at least it's heartwarming with her especially during the roof, and it's much better than whatever the fuck they are doing with that tingyun death
@@ymw1107 honestly it's not like it was a bad thing, they clearly know that Tingyun's "death" was twist factor by how they have the funeral for her disappearance next patch compared to now with Firefly. Tingyun was simply not meant to make you sad and that's perfectly fine
Firefly was killed way too early in my opinion. There wasn't enough time to develop the relationship between Firefly and the Trailblazer, we barely got to know Firefly and only spent a few moments with her, are we to believe that the Trailblazer cares deeply for this person that he only just met? Their relationship was just rushed, in a way Firefly was killed for shock value just like Tingyun's.. (because we all know Firefly is going to come back)
@fuyukiryujin3723 it was definitely too early, the writing would be atrocious IF she was actually dead
@@wongo6828 Even of her death feels rushed for us, it seems like she planned to die intentionally. We barely have any context tbh, let Shaoji cook he won't fail
Ohh, I only noticed when watching you play: a little golden light leaves Firefly just before she turns to memory bubbles.
2:05:25 I love how much more JP Sparcle is unhinged. She said to him to find a disabled person so his new "friend" couldn`t escape from him
EN Sparkle is too tame. They censored the EN version when Sparkle said Aventurine stripped down and on his knees for Sunday. Sparkle is more savage than that. She implies that Aventurine sleeps with Sunday. Sparkle is truly a gamer with those insults.
did that in CN too
@@dropmelon and the twitter 'community' was still triggered despute it being tame.
@@Kaslana_Yumma_423 this is why we can't get good thing because western players are too sensitive
2:05:20 in this line in another language, she said "why don't you find a blond and disabled person to befriend with" 😂
Yoooo Adventurine x Aether (Hes fucking mute)
I watched multiple play throughs but just realized no one, aside from clockie acknowledges misha.
March 7th interrupt him. But said nothing about him
The gangsters conflict was with archron only mentions her
If you choose other options when helping archron firefly gets confused
And archron thanks the mc but never thanks the bellboy who stood beside her throughout the conflict.
Damn, i didn't notice that... I bet he is gonna have some more impact later.
Penacony is so similar to fontaine with the murder mystery stuff I love them both🔥
I'm sad about firefly's death, I really felt in love with her
"I'm Adventurine."
"Well hello there, mister Urine."
Sunday gonna be some sort of power house I say!I RLLY HOPE SO BC I NEED MORE GODLIKE MEN IN THIS GAME!!(don't get me wrong pls)
I love that you are never afraid to give your true opinions. Other content creators just act hype and pretend to cry because that's what viewers like to see.
Thanks for his chat for that secret at the end
2:01:30
“Stay in school kids, but also, fuck work”
-Bran 2024
This is way better the whole Luofu's main story. Hope that it actually deliver in later parts.
However, I feel a bit off with Firefly's death bc I think the time we spent with her is way too short it's almost like they shove all the perfect ingredients to make very sad death(sad music, deadly illness, commemorate photo) but didn't give enough time to simmer.
Her death is still way more impactful than Tingyun's "death", I just don't feel as sad as I thought.
Honestly, I don't think they expect us to believe she really is dead. It was too fast and obvious. But something suspicious is going on and her "death" is a part of it.
I think the boss' mechanic plays into this. Theyre not truly dead, but stored somewhere. The way Sunday says "'Death' has taken them" corroborates that theory.
Robin and Firefly will be back and pullable, for once I dont think this is copium. At least Firefly will definitely be ok..
@@thewizof0275 That's my pet peeve with Tingyun's death. I really don't like when they give sad/shocking "supposedly" death but reveal that they're alive all along. (As a One Piece, I know this pain quite well.)
I think it's more ok to go for reviving route bc it can be the goal that TB can go for, but I prefer killed character to stay dead in most cases.
* At least, Firefly's death gave TB some meaningful emotion.
@@NeIIy So honkai doesn't have the guts to kill off a playable chara anymore
It really all depends on the next patch for the story, on whether we'll look back fondly on this, or poorly.
Right now, if that's really...it, to not just Firefly, but also Robin AND Duke Inferno...
Then yeah, I gotta say I'm majorly disappointed. A lot of characters killed, solely for shock value and little more. With Firefly being introduced and going all the cliche tropes to try to get you to feel attached to her, when we all know where it's going...
But she ended up being so suspicious, that i really didn't feel much of anything when she 'died.'
Again, this could all end up being excellent, IF the next part of the story is done well. If not, then all of this will have been just a poorly written waste.
Hoping they stick the landing with it in the next patch.
But I do think it's too early to say this is 'better' than the Luofu arc. People LOVED that story when it first started, all the way up to 1.2. Adored it and sang it praises.
They just kinda got bored being stuck there as it dragged on, with it peaking at Phantylia fight and then kinda just months and months of not good or average story content waiting for Penacony.
Now that Penacony is here, we got the rose tinted glasses. But to me, I can't help but feel like Penacony will either be looked back on fondly, or poorly, based on what they do AFTER this patch. And hopefully not just do stuff solely for shock value and no substance.
FINALLY. Someone who picks the photo right away at 3:01:00. Literally the first person that doens't have to be told by chat
Shees i missed it
I started Penacony DOWN HORRENDOUS for Acheron and now I ended it with DEPRESSION for what they did with FIrefly and Robin. I saw SHAMPOO KIOSK and that was the start of the descent to depression. I'm sad that all my fav characters are getting killed: first Tingyun, now Firefly and Robin.
BUT HERE'S A COPING THEORY: what if "Death" actually just captured them instead? Just like the mechanic in-game? (I know I'm coping so hard but I just want them to at least be playable before they actually kill them. This is freaking HONKAI, they have the BALLS to kill characters unlike GENSHIN)
Honkai: Star Rail? More like "DEPRESSION: Star Rail"
I feel like Misha is gonna play a very important part of Penacony storyline. So many hints...
His chat messages when you get his character from gacha seem to be after character interactions of future trailblazer quests. Really weird they did that.
when i played this last week, the convo between Aventurine and Sparkle read mute instead of rock. I figured she said rock to be inoffensive and they just didnt change the text, but seems it was originally rock in the first place?
its suppose to be mute
@@marcuschiong306 Yeah, 2.1 confirms that.
before i even became an HSR player, i dreamt about a hotel just like this. It went on forever and it felt like a city.
I don't know if anyone have said this, but if you refused avenurine's 10,000 credit, he will give you 20,000 instead lmao
Firefly is a Stellaron Hunter and the pieces can be gathered from all the clues and connections surrounding her.
She was a stowaway like Sam was implied to be, she is after the Watchmaker's legacy like all the factions seem to be after too. She calls out to a Mecha(the only one here being Sam?), which also suggests she knows Silver Wolf (Sam's partner this time) to get the code to get into the true Dreamscape. And refuses to expose her identity saying it's not the right "time" (Elio's script?).
She also exposes during the conversation with Clockie that she's an experienced enough fighter to have critiques of our weapon of choice (and also analyze Sampo's capabilities as a fighter from a distance just by looking at him)
Something I think some people missed is that in the Myriad Celestial Trailer is that the cards are actually Deaths hitlist. Everyone person attacked was someone from the cards, starting with the good duke
I don't know if someone mentioned it already or not but the name Mikhail and Misha it's the same name. Misha it's like a nickname or just informal way to say Mikhail. At least in Russia
In Ever-Flame Mansion trailer Ifrit said that first step in their plan will be a sacrifice. And it quite obvious that it`s gonna be himself
Content aside, yooo I love the new camera/room/rig setup! I feel like your frame now has a better angle and color/lighting like that.
I am so pleased that you have put Star Rail back onto the channel. I found Penacony emotional and shocking at times. Can't wait to find out what is happening
One thing that stands out to me about Firefly's scene and why Acheron didn't draw her blade against the meme:
Acheron said she can't recognize people with her memories, but through emotions (how she felt about them). And the part where it says Black Swan pitted enemies against each other (Acheron vs Sam) to get the TB out of there is quite sus.
Which brings me to my crack conclusion: Firefly = Sam. Maybe in the dreamscape, Sam and Firefly are two distinct beings, but in the real world, Firefly may be Sam's AI module/interface or something.
That scene where the meme attacked Firefly, it could be that Acheron didn't draw her sword to save her, because in her subconscious, Firefly is Sam, who is her enemy, of which she would have no reason or inclination to save.
Yeah thats what i thought as well. Her giving that bad excuse that she didn't react was not believable. We just got told that she single-handedly took on the Everflame Mansion and killed the head. We also witnessed it when we first met her and she 'slashed' us in less than a blink.
In that moment, Acheron did not want to save Firefly from Death, but she also did not know why.
2:31:52 YUP this alone just confirm my theory lol she almost use her transformation power omg i just noticed now lol XD
Yup, my thought aswell, maybe the reason she didnt use it is cuz she sense black swan
My theory. All raiden archetype in hoyo has one weakness as a cost of power. Idk about hi3, ei cant cook, and acheron has bad sense of direction.
Honestly Penacony just creeps me out sometimes, especially the dreamscape parts
picture with firefly 2:20:17
firefly dies cutscene 2:55:30
sam cutscene 3:11:46
Sparkle is getting that Joker vibe. Definitely fit for a champion of Elation
She isn`t quite a champion. She is just an another Fool, like Sampo or Giovanni
I dont get why bran hates aventurine that much but apparently sparkle is totally ok just a little crazy tho. Honestly what did aventurine do to deserve this amount of hate? He gave us his room he did nothing bad to us, only some of his words are concerning. Meanwhile we got sparkle who stalked us, hypnotised us, tried to jarm us and is partly responsible for fireflies death.
The only reason i can think of why its this way is because ones a waifu and the other a guy.
I didn't realize win I was playing through it until I watched you but isn't Acheron's eyes similar to the dreamscape dragon
I just got to the penacony and dreamscape and my god this place is fkn amazing! This is one of the coolest areas I have been in a game in a long time it’s so fun just walking around and exploring it and listening to the OST! It’s gunna be hard for Startail to top this area and chunk of the story it’s a masterpiece 🔥🔥
WELCOME TO THE TRUE REAL HONKAI STORY Experience, Where Writer of the Honkai Series can Freely kill the Character that you love so much in many possible ways = is will Wholesome And Positive Story - Shaoji
Firefly's death is literally teppei's death except she has a good character design. Whe literally known her for an hour and we are supposed to be sad about her dead? Even less when literally 3 minutes after her death the trailblazer has already gotten over it.
@@eduardogc1404 that was explained as a mental trick from Black Swan who needs Trailblazer composed for the upcoming fight with Sam. Still I have a feeling we are not done with Flrefly yet in upcoming stories.
I was super surprised by her death because in my opinion she was given too much character development for her to just die off, especially after the rooftop stuff.
I don’t even believe either of them are dead. The guy wrote Elysium everlasting and it was full of fake death.
@@sky3fall866 that's characterization, not development
That’s walking into the wall hurt my brain every time
Me waiting for bran to upload his playthru of penacony pt 2 🧍♂️
it's also not what i expected but god damn i sure as hell am not dissapointed, this is crazy and it's going to get even better
YAY SUCH A "POSITIVE" AND "WHOLESOME" ARC 🥰🥰🥰 I FEEL SO HAPPY AND NOT SAD AT ALL 😁🤩😃
That eye roll meeting Clockie was IMMACULATE xD
Suddenly Everyone Understands Otto
I've just noticed that the colors of the bubbles in the room aventurine showed up in near the end match his eyes
All this sadness, and Himeko isn't even dead yet.
I dread to think what will be devastating enough for the trailblazer to draw another Aeon's gaze.
I watched Dr Ratio's character trailer before meeting him in the game. Wasn't impresses. But after getting go know him, he's a legend.
Definitely better than 1.x (aside from OG Belobog story) story lines, HSR just seems to suffer from a pacing issue that I hope they really get a handle on at some point.
I personally didnt really care for Firefly or Robins deaths (or are they...? LOL). There just wasnt any time to get to know them or have any kind of relationship build with them for me to care about them. Its a double Tingyun situation for me.
I hope the story stays this strong and interesting and doesnt have the same fall as the Xianzhou.
We got a real edgelord over here
@@Schinak Where?
@@Schinak Where?
2:55:28 what everyone is here for
Also, only Bran could turn something like that moment, into a lol in a few seconds😅
Thanks bruh
Well, it was so sudden, and we didn't even really know Firefly XD she was so suspicious, it was more just done for shock value, instead of a really sad moment
I've never liked smiley bad guys, except Aventurine, i like him because he's doing an awful good job of intimidating me, it's his usage of tone and micro expressions...
Its sad she died in the dream world but I dont feel sad at all.
It was WAY too sudden from meeting her to her gettin impaled to have any emotional impact.
The Golden Hour is basically the whole concept of the film Midnight in Paris
A meme is a unit of information, other than a bit
“I don’t care if she’s an Eminator.” Maybe care a little. The last one tried to kill you and destroy a blow up the Loufu 😅
ya 2.1 is hopefgully gonna be nuts
"I've been waiting here for more than 10 minutes. 🙄"
Bruh, I've had to wait for 1 and a half hours to get on a Disney World ride, literally get over it.
Firefly's cutscene on the roof is more of a gutpunch when you find out that the VA has this exact condition IRL
"Shaoji lied as easily as he breathed,"
Man. How are we gonna survive our mental state for the next 7 weeks?
17:58: It's an omen of things to come XD
1:12:00: Thank you for being different from the rest of youtube who picks the SAFE options
1:13:10: Not Yet XD, We'll see
Bran vs Aventurine was so funny 🤣
2:04:00 the way my eyes also widened in shock seeing and hearing the words "strip nasked on your knees" like maam what kinda story am i hearing rn 💀💀
Heh, once again I'm seeing those scenes and I'm happy Hoyo actually bothered to make some characters as they are (e.g. Sparkle being an absolute menace)
2:55:10: Oh, they know. Never read Twitch chat if you don't want spoilers. Even if you don't know, you can still infer.
On one hand it is true that Acheron protected us, on the other it is true that Aventurine doesn't seem like the final boss, the stellaron hunters need us alive and there's still the fact that the trailblazers are deeply connected to Penacony. We still don't know what's the deal with Misha. This is all I shall bother to remember for now
A wise man once said, "if Honkai is in thy name, a michelin star cooked story they shall make"
As a Tasmanian, I feel like a world founded as a prison feels very true to life. Also Australia's first casino was here. That said, Tasmania isn't very exciting, but it is pretty.
Potential spoilers for the story below.
The fact that he can hear the thing with robins voice is impressive. Because in the story her voice is actually messed up for lore reasons. So that's pretty cool.
Not even I heard it when I played through it first but now... it's very apparent.
Spoilers:
Not sure if it was only me, but this is my first Honkai game and honestly when Firefly "died" I had no idea what happened... is she dead, literally? Is her consciousness destroyed? When she "died" I didnt even feel a huge amount of shock and my reasoning for that was that I don't really know anything about her, all I know is that she had some disassociation disease with her mind and body and that she was after the "watchmakers Legacy". If anyone wants to discuss this please feel free I really wanna talk about this because I feel as though I missed something and im not feeling the right things. Also I still trust Acheron honestly, even if she is an Emenator I never gauged her to have malicious intent in the slightest and she seemed like the more genuine character to me during the story quest even though I knew obviously she has more to her.
idc what yall say but I LOVE SPARKLE!! she’s such an evil and pretty character and i love that about her, need more evil playable characters like her
SPOILERS (Do the Penacony quest pls)
Not to be toxic, but after finishing the quest and reflecting on what the hell just happened I felt as this didn't stack up to the same set up as Honkai Impact 3rd's set-up. I know it's the first act but that is exactly the reason why it feels so jarring killing off characters without letting it play off over time. Constructive Criticism wise the beginning was a very nice refreshing fresh breath of air, as the expectations were set up like the sudden dream with Mei (Calling her Mei because she reminds me of Raiden Mei lolol) and the explanation that previous Trailblazers stayed on Penacony for an unknown reason, bravo for the exposition. World building is gorgeous with the music, visuals, and interactions between characters/NPCs of the world alongside introducing the dream scape, then we skip a little to Firefly. Ngl I felt as if she was forced into the story because of how predictable a certain Honkai Impact 3rd writer wrote her (COUGH COUGH wholesome totally) and the similar design she had to another character, besides that, death flags were set on her especially with the clique that she will be guaranteed to die. (Common from this writer.) After some filler content that should not be in the first act ffs and a wonderful interaction alone with Firefly the tension starts building up as YOU the player realizes how messed up things really are. This is where this gets really tricky, because new characters start showing up with little foresight like Black Swan or tiny hints of a monster or even Sam's arrival adding up more build up for a climax right? Yeah, we do get a climax after being diluted with brand new information we didn't get time to digest it. Firefly's unjustified death, an example of why you SHOW not TELL; A.K.A. her build up leading to a mess of other characters trying to explain why Firefly died. I was more focused on the puzzle and not getting caught instead of reflecting what the hell just happened after her death. Also what is up with the reactions of the other characters? MC is sad which is cool, then everyone just forgives and forgets? (Except for the MC) BTW, where the hell are the other trailblazer members in the story because aren't they suppose to have some connection based on the exposition? IPC dude proceeds to tell us that a main villian that is hyped up died off screen. . . Then Robin's Murder Mystery scene that is just told to us that Firefly did it without letting the player digest it.
Conclusion: Amazing entry, then the plot line does a hard right turn alongside with another hard right turn. Nothing felt concluded at the end story wise because nothing was really fully explained. Also side note: What the hell is IPC man doing here anymore? Isn't he here for some rock but now is a double faced agent? I'm going to fairly compare this Act I to other similar quests like Fontaine Act I or the first few chapters of HI3. Fontaine introduced us to the world of Fontaine instantly connecting us to characters and SHOWing us what Fontaine is all about, we get a climax with a certain trial concluding that trial and getting questions on what is the next act. HI3 had a similar thing with world building, introducing bonds and relationships, a compelling story, a climax with a conclusion and questions. However the difference between these Entries are that in HSR there were really no conclusions with an alarming increasing rate of questions while Fontaine and Early chapters of HI3 gave us closure on something while giving us tad bits for a questions and speculations.
Questions: I am so confused on the ending. Can someone please give me a brief summary on what the future of this story can be?
Why are the other Trailblazers not able to be teleported to where the MC was?
Why is Sam here again, or at least the clue of why he is here.
Are these death really justified for a story this early on?
I was to hear what people think, I'm open to people's opinion on this, please don't be scared to say what you have on your mind.
Edit: I really enjoy the discussion in the replies section with all of you guys. Thank you so much for spending some time analyzing / recapping the story with me.
to try answer your questions: 1) which part of the ending? if it's the Sunday/Sparkle bit, then they show us that Sunday knows everything and is just waiting for the right time and for the culprit to show themselves. in future versions we might learn who Acheron really is, what Aventurine's plan is and so on. 2) i dont think they can teleport 3) Sam was presumably with Firefly to help her get to Watchmaker but something went wrong on their way there 4) what i will say is in hi3 character deaths are usually sad, but in hsr they are shocking (Tingyun, Firefly, Robin). also it just can be a misdirect, they might not even be dead
Ok my theory. Sam is firefly. She was the only character we didn’t see in the beginning. Sam is her body in the “real world” because she can’t use her own body also before black swan saved us the first time it looked like she was getting ready to fight the monster and when she “died” you can see orange light coming out of her aswell,Sam initially only threaten Acheron and black swan not the MC.
Acheron is obviously not the bad guy here but she might lose control of herself at times.
I think sone people must be stuck in the dream probably the old prisoners of penacony.
The IPC is trying to get too much control sparkle is trying to get the family to stand up against them (and also she just wants to watch the world burn like the joker that’s why she keeps saying “why so serious”)
i see it as this part of the story is really just a setup for the next parts, in dont think firefly is dead, and if you want a good video why watch unreal dreamers video about the companion quest from sparkle and black swan, why is there no real conclusion you may ask, well its just the beginning, a setup to whats still coming, we know that the story goes until 2.3 so we have still so much more to uncover here, sure it def felt a bit rushed but that was i think every story from hsr up until now and i dont mind that, but i can also see why some people dont like it, at the end of the day i dont wanna judge the whole story until we have seen everything and it concluded, because so much can still happen and be explained, that judging it now will probably just lead to nothing as other things are gonna be exposed and explained in the future patches of the story, so we need to wait until it finished to really judge the arc in its entirety, but thats just how i see it
To answer the questions:
- Aventurine is here to reclaim Penacony as he confirmed when speaking with Ratio. Penacony previously was a prison owned by the IPC, but later it eventually turned out into the hotel thanks to the Stellaron and Aeon of Harmony
- It may be due to the fact of our close bonds with Black Swan. Acheron mentioned earlier she had awaken something in the Trailblazer + we were only ones in the dream at the start of the quest, thus further proving the MC different reactions to dreams and memoria.
- Sam is here probably for the Stellaron, just the work of Stellaron Hunters. As we know, Penacony was built mostly by the help of Stellaron
- At this point, we cannot confirm if it's real death or not. The monster's name says it is "Something unto death", however it's tactics are most likely stealing souls. There's also a theory about Firefly, but idk if you want to know it. As for the Duke Inferno, I highly believe it was faked, a lie or if not, the gang will come back.
Thank you so much for the clarification@@dancingkeomi
1) If Robin is already died, then why did the body conveniently bubbled off when the MC sees it or was it a vision of the past dug up by IPC dude?
2) Fair enough.
3) That explains a bit on a possibility of why Firefly got there, however, is there an explanation on why Sam specifically was there in the first place (except for Watchmaker) or is that still a mystery yet to be solved.
4) I can see your point, HI3 rarely did shock deaths and mostly did long term deaths that has been built up to or is a set-up for the future. I just feel a little disappointed this wasn't given time to digest until Act II, however, people do have to wait 7 weeks lmao.
Knowing what happens with certain characters being "unalived" (with no context though, I don't wanna get spoiled any further). Really made me sad while playing the story quests, tainting the experience. Man why do I feel such strong emotions to fictional characters? First Oshi no Ko, now this?
Akivilii is a menace
As trailblazer we must follow their example and be a menace ourselves
YOU SPENT ALL OF HER MONEY???? She didn't have any to get food for herself
I will never trust any of the words that leave Aventurine's mouth. He's plotting something I'm 100% sure. Also when Black Swan was talking about the truth it was in quotation which usually hints toward the opposite of the word.
I think u just helped me to realise that robin was sparkle all along and firefly was the real robin and thats why she was killed the sameway as firefly
penacony where everyone understands otto and now we embark on our journey to be like him
Ifrit's fate was a bigger shock to me than the Firefly incident.
Bran: “She’s insane!”
Oh honey, you’re just now. Figuring that out? We knew sparkle was unhinged from the get go 😂