Core-A Gaming's Thoughts on Street Fighter 6 | Castle Super Beast Clips
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I can't believe they got the man himself to be in the podcast
They got Guy Cihi before, it's not that much of a stretch.
@@blackdragoncyrus you're right, damn that was so many years ago
Right? I kept looking for a new video from CoreA, but I was confused when I couldn't find it. This is even better!
Gerald is a really cool chill guy I remember seeing him in the arcades when I visited for Evo Japan. He would talk to fans and play sets
I’m not surprised after Pat basically made his stream watch every one of his videos. If Core-A didn’t come on he probably thought Pat would just replace his channel lol.
I’m happy though! Core-A has a skill to explain foreign concepts in depth while remaining digestible and entertaining, love his content.
If this doesn't get CSB its much deserved spot on a top podcast list then I dunno what will.
They haven't had as many Welcome To Patschwitz titles lately, so that could help.
Ngl I kinda miss the insane era of rambling that lead to the magic of Z-Targetable Colostomy Bags.
@@StoneEagle194 Or Aryan Resurrection
@@StoneEagle194Dragon AIDS.
@@JackgarPrime What do you mean we had "9/11 was a reference to MGS2" pretty recently.
Damn Woolie, you're looking good. Great work on getting healthier!
Getting him ready for the LTG boxing exhibition.
He’s glowing
I think the addition of drive gauge so that super meter is exclusively for super moves is kind of like how mortal Kombat added fatal blow to replace x-ray moves so that you have it separate from your meters to use for breakaway and enhanced specials. really good changes on both counts even if at this point I've watched each fatal blow like a million times and they aren't special anymore
Drive impact is trash. No meterless reversal = bad game. Just bring back SSFT2 HD Remix. Even focus attack is a bad mechanic
You’re right. Having a mechanic that allows you to close in space, extend simple normal combos, or use EX moves in the very beginning is great. I’ve always been mediocre in fighting games and what always frustrated me is how hard it is to close down on someone that has great spacing and footsies. This allows me to close in with better options or do more damage when I do manage to land a hit
@@RazgrizStraitz The hottest takes
The closing statements about EX moves totally mirrors my experience: as much as I knew in the back of my mind that EX moves were very important and technically worth spending on, I never wanted to sacrifice my painstakingly built-up-from-zero meter on something that wasn't a big flashy super. Now that EX moves are used with drive gauge, which is separate from super meter and starts at full and regens over time, I find myself for the first time ever using EX moves! It's certainly quite the interesting trick they've pulled for getting newbies like me to utilize mechanics, maybe even more so than modern controls in my opinion!
They literally took precise meterless reversals to GET GRABBED FOR FREE UNLESS YOU USE EX. This is almost as bad as SFV. And modern controls in ranked ? Bye
@@RazgrizStraitz You will not be missed.
@@RazgrizStraitzActually if a hitbox and grab land on the same frame in SF6, hit wins. Also Modern has enough nerfs to be fair, plus since it's software it can be balanced more further on.
I like how it still uses an important meter. Unlike mk11 the offense meter encourages you to use it it don't matter
@@RazgrizStraitz Meterless reversals are not precise at all in SF, the special buffer is notoriously lenient, especially for DP motions in 4 and stuff lol
Happy to see Gerald here. Though the mention of Fantasy Strike makes me sad, i really vouched heavily for it amongst my fighting game friend group cuz I genuinely liked it but with so few updates it's essentially dead now.
That was Game and yup pretty dang dead
Woolie is so excited in this I had to keep checking if the video speed accidentally turned up
I saw the title and immediately checked for a new Core-A Gaming video, but didn't find one. I didn't expect he'd actually be on the podcast with them!
Cool having Gerald on to talk with systems 1 and 2!
Next they must get [INSERT FIGHTING GAME CONTENT CREATOR] FOR ANOTHER 8hr podcast of Street Fighter 6 and Fighting games... and I will listen to the full thing.
Modern controls allows new people to see and play the actual baseline street fighter game. They get to run and make decisions based on fighting, instead of struggling to walk. I love it so much.
That's cool, but the moment they allowed this in ranked, ranked became meaningless. You don't get to press two buttons and do the same combo that would take me 11 unique inputs. And they didn't learn from SFV, still no meterless reversals, just the trivial new drive system and anti grab or EX. that's it. it's actually worse than Tekken which has alot of options when you get knocked down instead of 1 or two. Forcing you to use their trash Drive impact system. I'm probably completely out on this game after the demo.
Interesting to hear what Woolie has to say about it though.
@@RazgrizStraitz the vast majority of players in ranked are using classic, even in bronze and silver
I think that my only issue with Modern is that it isn't equal across all characters. For example, Cammy on Modern is actually harder to understand than Cammy on Classic. Specifically doing her different target combos off of punish counter back knuckle are less intuitive and her light confirms off of meaty standing MP aren't even possible. This isn't insignificant stuff either, you need to do these things to make it out of silver because otherwise Cammy is super easy to read. But then on flip side you have Ken, who can do all the stuff he needs to do on Modern with zero issues.
@@RazgrizStraitz is bitching about sf6 your life? You're all through these comments crying
Modern Controls are good enough, but the Drive meter being a Guard/Drive/EX meter while the Super meter gets to be its own thing in the corner makes this game 5000% more fun for me. I'm like Pat with EX moves, I never ever did them before. As soon as I remembered OD moves existed, I started busting them out like nobody's business.
Even calling it the Drive Gauge for me makes it very KH2-like, since I'm balancing whether to use it for Summons or Drive Forms.
Its like learning how to drive a stick shift: If you know nothing about it, it's easier to learn as opposed to if you have some semblance of the matter that often includes bad habits or miseducation.
If they mentioned Gerald enough in the podcast, they would eventually summon him.
Not sure why they made it a 30 minute clip when they talked this game for a full hour before even telling us about their weeks
Wow, they got THE Mr fighting games
We eating this week FG gang
Feastin mah boi.
Modern Zangief's instant level 3 super is so fucking insane
CAN'T ESCAPE FROM CROSSING FATE
Pat nailed it man. I am not that good at fighting games and I ALWAYS hate it when I use EX moves. Because I want the meter for the big flashy move! And when i accidently use a EX move, because use I button mash, it makes me disappointed that I can't get the big flashy move.
Core-A is legit my favorite content creator.
As someone whos mental and physical issues makes motion controls a HUGE barrier for entry, the modern controls are AMAZING for letting me actually PLAY this game. The only fighting game i played at all before was Tekken 7, but its abysmal online meant ive only really fucked around in training for like 15 hours at most.
I'll be 100% if it wasn't for Fantasy Strike I wouldn't be playing SF6 on Classic Controls, if I got it. When I got SFV I couldn't play it at all. It wasn't until I basically made my own version of Modern Controls by using FS Controls as a Template and input it on SCV did I actually start playing. Then a couple years of that I was comfortable enough to learn to use all 6 buttons.
Oh my god i just understood why he’s called core a gaming lol
Felt real dumb having that epiphany while driving yesterday after watching him for half a decade
New lore added, Pat's dad is a pool shark.
Yo, this is Awesome! Thanks for the awesome podcast woolie, Pat, and Gerald!
22:57 I like the way SFV handled chip best tbh. You can still chip kill with super and set up checkmate kills but they had to be out of v meter for reversal and you needed full super bar. It was very earned in that game.
THE core a gaming my man
WHAT A COLLAB
Aww man, you guys actually got Gerald on. It’s about time lol.
OMG, holy shit, wow
Bro I cant hear the vidya because my dog is snoring so loudly, anyway SF 6 is pretty great.
I've been enjoying the drive gaugey stuff but I haven't figured out managing it yet. Keep burning out doing OD moves 😅.
Pretty nice that OD changes the move in non-aesthetic ways. Like the shoto hurricane kick (quarter circle back + kick) if OD'd moves diagonally upwards and lifts the opponent (easy to whiff if not positioned right). OD Kikoken shoots like a bullet.
Also, I'm pretty sure you can't OD using Modern controls (?) which certainly changes things.
So obviously the main thing is with practice you'll get better but try to figure out what your OD moves are useful for because they're not just more damaging versions. Some of the OD moves actually do less damage than the regular form but are useful in some other way. Maybe it starts up faster so it connects when the regular wouldn't, launches higher/gains a launch property, helps with corner carry, helps win the fireball war, etc. Then reserve them for their situational use and not just as damage dealers (unless the situation is that you need more damage to close out the round or something and the OD move does that). That might help conserve the gauge but also just watching it, which comes with experience.
And you can OD in modern. I normally use classic controls but use modern in world tour and Luke just taught me how. If I'm remembering right it's R2/RT+special button
@@jordibaizabal5682 Lol I have since learned about Modern OD doing some some side missions lol (some of the tutorially missions are harder than just playing the game, I swear. Like getting Perfect Parries).
16:18, you know, most contemporary games like League or CoD also have a lot of trash talking races.
Getting into smash ultimate made me realize just how much I don’t care about “execution” in terms of motion inputs and just how important a character’s kit is
Getting confident with my dog hunt, hitting those custom combos and setups with can is a much more rewarding experience then most of the things street fighter offered
The one and only Core-A gaming!
Core A gaming finally returned from being lost in the Middle Eastern deserts.
Pat ReactAndy'd a guest onto the podcast
Great
Yo, is that Core A Gaming from Gerald?
I mean GBVS kinda did the modern thing and sorta did it better. I'm still glad that modern controls is letting a lot more people enjoy Street Fighter.
It’s interesting how positive people have been about modern controls considering a lot of these same people are the ones saying that dark souls shouldn’t have an easier difficulty setting. Really goes to show how desperate fighting games fans are for more people to play them.
Eh, when a game does something right, people are quick to change their minds and act like they were always on the winning side. You could find people writing essays about how a Soulslike should never have a map, or a jump button, etc. but then Elden Ring does them well and those opinions disappear. Elden Ring changed so many things that people swore shouldn't be changed in a proper Soulslike that I'm convinced that if From made a decent "Easy Mode" on ER 2, (very unlikely) people will start acting like they were on board with it all along.
I think any remaining discourse Modern control is causing can maybe reach a compromise if the thinking of it changes to treatment as a groove.
CSB is the greatest podcast clearly…no debate
This shows street fighter/ fighting game talks were a bit dry. I saved a video gonna give him a watch.
all his vids are super good, wish they were more frequent but you can't rush art
Modern controls are trash.
Ruins the game not because it exists, but because of how powerful it is.
DPs, SPDs, charge moves and insane combos all at the touch of a button, with no penalty except ⅕ damage decrease is fucking ludicrous.
15 years of experience or whatever... and still can't match the audio levels
my god Woolie... I love you but wtf for real
Like.
Yeah, I still think Modern controls are just a casual’s meme, in the same way auto-combos have been.
I mean, the system implements auto-combos, but that’s besides my point.
My point is that, this control type dies alongside the casual audience, because it exists purely for that purpose.
At best, it’s an on-boarding mechanism; a stepping stone to guide players to better handle classic controls.
At worst, it’s babby mode for babby’s, and nothing more.
And that’s entirely dependent upon where the actual player decides to take their self-improvement journey.
It’s a simple calculus, easy-mode with drawbacks, but that’s the thing; no one whose even willing to climb the ladder of self-improvement, even to an intermediate level, is willing to settle for the draw backs that modern controls presents as opposed to taking the time out to optimize.
This really isn’t any more or less of a big deal than any stylish mode or auto-combos have ever been, and the hype surrounding them is just hot air, as far as I can tell.
I haven’t seen anyone above gold rank using modern controls online.
Tl;dr literally all they did was not call it “easy mode”
if it helps more players reach gold rank in the first place...
I think the buff first philosophy was a mistake to popularize tbh. It just kinda leads to a lack of willingness to nerf things that truly do need to be nerfed in the name of fun. It's kinda whats plaguing dbfz atm
MFin super baby 2
While prefferable, it's deffinetly not a fix-all solution or a mentality to have. Heck, buffing a character's weaknesses can be an overcorrection that makes them less interesting to play.
Super Broly is fun because he compensates for his slow buttons with powerfull grabs and TOD combos. Meanwhile someone like Z-Broly has had most counter-play against him continously patched.
It's all about balance, but nowadays it's not like patches are just made for one character unless there's a very big problem that needs to be fixed ASAP.
Or if you're DNF Duel.
I would highly recommend any players who are concerned about Modern to look up @DenofSin. This content creator has broken down the actual numbers and when the debuff is applied. Very useful.