I think he's suggesting "With my brain and your ignorance, we can team up and make a lot of money from this nonsense." But you need to stop saying stupid shit.
@@dont-touch-mepg1392 Weinstein is being extremely polite (and condescending). He is NOT impressed. I guarantee you in private he mercilessly mocks Terrence Howard.
@@tapewerm6716 bingo. i've often wondered how much progress we lose due to the tyranny of mediocrity over f.u.d. fueled by the outliers' exceptionalism. like imagine if einstein had a carolina accent.
@@ThepurposeofTimeI think they mean his willingness to respectfully critique and have an homest discussion about his theories. Most others like NDT have simply refuted him and didn’t give Terrance a chance to have scientific discussion.
Idk why everyone is hating on Howard. The fact that he is self taught and understands this type of material is astonishing. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
Terrence doesn't get it though. He knows some fancy words buts he uses them out of context, and he doesn't understand the science behind them. He pretends to know everything, and people that aren't into science don't know how clueless he is.
@@MrKydaman Who cares about terminology if you have something that could be used to improve energy generation? It's like a guy who makes a prototype for a quantum drive but misuses how terms associated with fractal density works and people decide crap on his lack of appropriate terminology rather than looking at testing his prototype.
insulting him. That foo couldn't even give a direct response. the you have pushing liquor on him when he said no. Joe, the way you swing on his nut, you think your Tarzan 😅😅 Terrence much love and respect to your research.
if he wanted to talk down to him he would make it very obvious. He was being respectful as much as he could while deconstructing what Howard was trying to say while teaching him why he was wrong.
@@bond-yieldbond007 Thank you, it’s more of he can’t believe that a self taught polymath has actually discovered something new. Furthermore, probably more subconsciously a black polymath at that. Moreover, he still cannot help but give him credit for seeing the contradictions in our mathematics 🔍
Eric seems to be trying to shake Terrence off the trail when he gets warm by saying yes that’s right but it’s also called this. He seems to be overly critiquing Terrence on certain terminologies and understandings & not wanting to say that’s right. What do you guys think? You have to watch the interview in its entirety to be able to answer accurately and truthfully.
Maybe some of things he say are wrong but it hasn’t been studied enough to just throw everything away without diving further into it, in other words there might be some hidden gems in everything he’s saying!
@@phinaphina3201Back in the good old west many people had to re-use the same bath water. After many uses the water would get really dirty where you couldn't see through it and needed to be dumped hence the saying came about to check your water before dumping, because there might be a child playing underwater. Sounds silly I know😂😂😂
Terrence is definitely curious, driven and intelligent, just lacks formal training and education. Average person can’t even study a chapter out of an introductory biology book, I admire his fortitude and genuine curiosity. We need more people like this.
We don't need more people like this, who if they had their way would have us stuck at year 1 level maths. The average person can read a biology book so I don't know where that came from. There's a difference between being curious, and just a narcissist who ultimately doesn't know how to think.
Whatever you may think of this, I admired Terrence Howard for diving into this type of stuff. Most people don’t have the fortitude to do so. I hope he continues to do this and grow into it.
I hope he learns how to say “I am wrong about this” out loud. Because this is all wasted if he never see himself being incorrect while looking evidence in the face
It's just a random statement because Terrence is saying he doest understand what he has just been told, so he's playing that he thinks we are just saying random things to each other.
Some context as to why this total bullshit: 1) Nobody claims that the arccos (-1/3) = 3/5*PI. The arccos (-1/3)=~109.47degrees where 3/5*PI radians = 108 degrees. This is not an "error"; it is a known geometric property. 2) He doesn't explain how this discrepancy actually applies to the geometry of attempting to join 6 pentagons in that fashion, but the crux of it is that the angles of a regular pentagon are each 108deg whereas the dihedral angle (angle created by connecting the center of a polyhedron and its vertices) of a regular tetrahedron (4-sided pyramid where each side is an equilateral triangle) is 109.47deg. 3) The tetrahedron he is referring to would be constructed from the points where the pentagon edges come together which cannot be the same as the edges of the pentagons and still connect at a common center point. Therefore, connecting 6 pentagons in that fashion does NOT form the shape that Terrence Howard has shown as there would be a gap in the center if the shapes were made and joined correctly. 4) This is not an "undiscovered geometry". This is a known fact. 5) Eric didn't mean "Even Temperament". He meant "Equal Temperament" as opposed to "Just Intonation" which are two 'methods' for tuning instruments. This is a topic way bigger than a TH-cam comment, but just look it up and you'll see that the essence of it is that musical notes don't necessarily follow strict mathematical intervals. A variation of Equal Temperament is how instruments in the western world have been tuned for centuries and is certainly not "a lie". 6) The "Pythagorean Comma" is the slight gap that is created when attempting to create a "circle of fifths" as the Pythagoreans wanted to divide the musical scale up in equal fifths due to the mathematical harmony of doing so even though it doesn't quite sound right to most people. 7) Although both of these concepts are similar, they have zero relation to one another. 8) It is a fallacy to state that the 6-motor "lynchpin" configuration has 6 degrees of freedom where a quadcopter has only 4. The "lynchpin" copter would have 6 degrees of freedom using a fixed motor configuration where a quad copter has 6 degrees of freedom by pitching its motors and varying the torque around it center. 9) The reasons why people don't make drones that way is that it is wildly inefficient compared to a quad copter. Any additional maneuverability obtained is completely overshadowed by the need for two additional motors, all the added weight of the airframe, and the fact that it would be an completely unstable airframe at high speed (where a quad copter with a tail fin is easily made stable). Furthermore, the "lynchpin" drone has no way to apply more than 3 motors in the direction of motion (and even then they are at an angle 30deg off from the angle of motion) as opposed to a quad copter that can have all 4 pointed directly in the direction of flight. 10) The best comparison I can make is comparing a helicopter to an airplane. Just because a helicopter is more maneuverable doesn't make it ideal for efficient flight, and that added mobility comes at a huge cost. (Also note that a helicopter gets 6 degrees of mobility fairly efficiently using only two rotors). 11) Terrence is a good actor, but not that good of an actor. It is obvious that he has no idea what Eric Weinstein is talking about in most of this conversation.
They both just show respect for each other... He praises Terrance when he thinks he deserves it and guides him back from some of his more outlandish points. It's a genuine conversation with Joe as the host
He also destroyed terrance on literally everything else. He basically told him you made a cool shape take the compliment without talking because your going to further discredit yourself
Yet a lot of people didn't understand what Weinstein was talking about and based on the general tone of the conversation came to the conclusion that he was supporting Howard.
@@fabolousjada5070 no bro Terrence fans cry themsleves to sleep trying to comfort themselves that Terrence is a genius because the made some dumb drone thing. no he did not, there is no use for what he created it is useless. that his why no one cares. by thinking outside the rules I think you mean thinking in a way that is just logicaly wrong, there is a difference.
He knows he's talking to an insane person lol, who was also very drunk by the end of the podcast. Huge props to Eric for being so patient and kind with someone so insufferable.
This was a great Interview they're very respectful towards Made jokes and didn't try to make the other feel stupid instead I listen to each other which is how we all should be
This is the type of content we all should be watching and listening to everyday, instead of all that sex, porn and stupidity we are forced to have to watch, love these two geniuses
the thing is eric is not a genius either. he shouldve said whats wrong with all the stuff terrence says DIRECTLY but he didnt. he wants to grab some of terrence community thats it. if he would just deny everything and explain why its so wrong then terence fans would instantly hate him. openyour eyes man
Terrence clarified that it is a metaphor. I believe what he is saying is that in real life arithmetic does not always work as we expect. E.g while 1+1=2 what is one cloud plus one cloud? Is it two clouds or is it one cloud if they are close enough. In arithmetic when you multiply one by one it is one but if you multiply one wave by one wave you will not get the same wave.
@@shaylove3786 Ahh...great! Thx for your thoughts. I only saw a few clips (lot of bashing T.H.), but didn't have the patience to see the entire podcast (have to dive deeper into that). Yeah, nature can't be forced into corset of "simple" mathematics, as in 1x1, 1:0 (ok, here "simple" only means the small numbers, not the implications behind it...), etc. it's interactive, synchronized, fractal and so much more than "numbers"...numb? 😮
@@shaylove3786 except the time he said the reason for economic problems is banks work on 1dollar x 1 dollar = 1 dollar and it could be solved by 1dollar x 1dollar= 2 dollars. Because multiply means to increase. That's a metaphor?! I don't see it.
@@shaylove3786 What do you mean "wave". Some continuous function? A phasor? A discrete set of points approximating a wave-like shape? A function that generates that discrete set of points? A function that generates that function that generates that discrete set of points??? Those are all mathematical objects that could be called "waves" that can be "multiplied". Omitting specifics and just saying "multiplying one wave by one wave" doesn't get you "two waves" because absolutely NOTHING in that statement has any actual, rigorous mathematical meaning. It is literally mathematically meaningless. You can't state something as scientific fact if you can't even clearly state it in the first place. Terrence continuously asserting his stupid shit as groundbreaking insight is what makes him come off as so moronic and delusional.
@@shaylove3786 I dont think you got it right either. And I dont think he was being metaphorical, he was serious. The thing is that you can do one cloud plus one cloud, but in real life you CAN'T multiply clouds between them. I can add clouds but for multiplying you have a given nnumber of clouds multiplied by an abstraction which is the number. Natural numbers have a counterpart in real life, but you cant multiply a cloud with a cloud. You can only multiply a cloud by a given number. That's what terrence doesnt understand, and its shown on his work where he talks about multiplying one penny with another penny. Its just nonsense.
Eric had to dumm down to talk to him. It was good anyway. But Terrence is up to Ericz heals. Don't assume they are in the same level based on this interview
Did we watch the same thing? That entire video was the guy very nicely telling Terrance that he had no clue what he was talking about but potentially stumbled on a cool thing in spite of it.
He kept getting thrown off and interrupted, but the idea of modular drone swarms based off that design is actually pretty nuts. Imagine having 80 of them with like a 2lb lift capacity each in a warehouse, wirelessly tasked by an ai neural net to identify and move packages in 3d space for max efficiency, grouping together magnetically whenever they need to lift heavier objects.
but the problem is i think it would be less energy efficient at hovering because of more weight and les propulsion shooting downwards. Its biggest advantage is its6 degrees of freedom to fly around. I'm thinking of them working inside a giant beehive mind kind of thing but regualr drones could also do the job so idk.
why? what the issue with 4 motor drone for warehouse? how would this be better? you dont need drone to rotate wildly, you only need stable platform for warehouse operation
@MartinDlabaja the only answer would be their ability to connect to eachother. You could achieve the same thing with multiple 4 rotor drones, but you'd have significantly less structural integrity in that design, which is important for heavy lifting. That's about the only possible benefit I can think of.
"Garlic makes my feet stink!!" Lol. Classic. I really enjoyed this episode. Howard humbles himself and listens to this expert, which is very cool. Hire this guy Mr. Howard. Pay him for his factual knowledge. Let's save this world. ;-)
In fact these shapes are actually based on what he got wrong. If you listen to the interview, he clearly states this. When he’s talking about the lynch pin
He does, but he states that he doesn’t know if he’s the first person to do so but if he is it’s extraordinary, you definitely didn’t watch were explaining the lynch pin
@@dharrison119 nothing new under the sun i think as the atmosphere errodes the knowledge that assisted all advanced leaders in the distant past present and future our 3 axis of perception
Nope he is an idiot who startted new movement called Terrencology that soon will substitute flat earth.... similarly its based on pseudoscience, spiritualism and conspiracy theories :P
No he's not. He's misleading people and basically growing a cult of morons that think he's some sort of prophet. He says he's been visited by an angel who taught him all this crap.
@@tapewerm6716 That pseudo science has some very interesting aspects and some that admitted are a bit absurd/out there for me. It's cool as it gets you thinking. Especially the shapes and patterns he creates
The very fact that Terrence goes into jokes breaks out and song and chuckles throughout the conversation means he is seriously insecure, caught out there, cannot truly answer and realizes he is outmatched
He asked him to sing the song because they were talking about thirds and fifths in chords. This clip has been edited to capture the gist of the conversation. You should watch the interview. They were all having a good time.
I think you are grossly misrepresenting Terrence's view of this conversation. Terrence has said many times throughout the podcast that he is looking for someone like Eric Weinstein to help him make sense of these ideas so that other intellectuals like Eric Weinstein's colleagues will not feel so offended by what he is trying to convey. Terrence thinks vastly differently to how Eric thinks. It's like a fish saying to a squirrel, "I am better than you at swimming" and then the squirrel going to the fish "yeah but can you climb a tree?" They simply think differently.
@tapewerm6716 Terrence is not trying to take over the world. He genuinely believes he has ideas that will contribute to science. Whether Terrence's theories benefit the scientific field or not remains to be seen. It takes an unconventional viewpoint to change an otherwise stagnant domain. Keep in mind that the first person to say the Earth was round was considered a heretic. We used to think smoking was good for us. You are simply perpetuating an old cycle. Weinstein has expressed how he is interested in working with Howard (prbly for the business opportunity and exposure) yet I'm sure Eric would help Howard articulate his points in such a way that would allow other intellectuals understand the theories a little more. Me, I understand Howard perfectly. He speaks much like someone I know. I know more or less what Howard is trying to say, and he is attempting to provide information that others may have overlooked. Eric himself even said, "This is why you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." A highly logical thinker is more open-minded than you, apparently.
You don't understand the potential of what he has done. This may be the technology that delivers your packages in the future and as he says may also replace cranes and other types of heavy machinery in the future. He is on to something.
Terrence needs to keep working on it.. He is tralblazing through the thickets, what for? I'm not sure yet.. he is a man on a mission to god knows where.. all the best!
all he did was use the wrong angle for a geometric shape to try forcing something to exist that can't exist. IT essentially boils down to him jamming the rectangle into the square whole, and breaking the toy.
@@RockSleeper OR he helped him realize that they were making the toy wrong to begin with. It literally all is in how one perceives a concept. I don't know if TH is a genius or not,but many discoveries are made by accident and lots - if not most of physics - is a bunch of mostly unproven theories anyway. We are finite beings and don't know near as much as we think we do as humans,while at the same time dismissing others' logic and personal experiences. Don't even try to pretend like you and Dr EW here are above that,lol. Human science is no longer ruled by truth;it's ruled by money,prestige,and the fear of being wrong. Ask me how I know how,with repeated firsthand experience.
LOL far from a genius: Put simply, Terrence needs WAY more training than he has now. The guy is more suited to be an "inventor" as he lacks geometric foundations (incorrect use of arc-cosine function), misinterprets tetrahedral angles, makes erroneous claims of undiscovered geometry, and lack of empirical evidence. The main thing is that his basic error in basic trigonometric calculation completely undermines all the arguments he makes.....noting but logical fallacies and non-scientific justifications. When you get any kook that speaks with confidence, uses what seems to be esoteric knowledge, and is not challenged, he can get away with just about anything. Its the same reason why you see many leaders in huge companies not knowing much about the area they lead and still holding high positions.
Open minded ultra rational vs inspired. The one is trying to box the other into his way of thinking while the other is having trouble presenting his ideas by the others language
This guy gets it. To Eric's credit, though, he even derides his own institutions' way of thinking and credits Terrence for bringing forth concepts that challenge the notion of the standardised way of utilising the scientific method. I hope Terrence keeps going and I hope his work is actually properly prototyped and theoretically tested with vigorous rigor. I would hate to see it get scooped up and buried under some kind of mega-corps' patent landfill where many innovative ideas go to be lost forever.
Inspired doesn't mean correct. You seem to forget that Terrance spent so much time saying how everybody else is wrong. An ego so large that he proclaims himself a genius. He now holds a conversation with the real deal, and his ideas were quickly pulled apart. To Eric's credit, he treated Terrance with respect while completely dismantling his ideas. You could tell early into the podcast, Terry knew he wasn't going to fool Eric with Jargon, word salad, and out of context science. The emperor has no clothes.
I don't buy it. Weinsten would say that Howard's ideas are passed over because of some conspiracy in the academic world, when the reason is that Howard's ideas are mostly foolish and Howards probably could not pass high school math. Those who are impressed by Howard's ramblings probably could not pass either.
They know this entire "debate" is bs. Just something popular on TH-cam that will gain millions of views. Its not a serious scientific or intellectual discussion
Smiling in agreement, also hoping the teacher doesn't point me out in class and ask me to stand up and see if I can answer the question... wtf was the question
4 hours of a whole buncha nothin' . They didn't finish a single thing, couldn't stay on topic, and just kept moving on to the next thing. It reminded me of a college party where everyone is absolutely faded, drunk and high trying to have a philosophical conversation but forgetting where their thoughts were going.
some progress was made because they did some interpreting of what Terrence is trying to put forward but Eric still doesn't understand all of it and keeps cutting Terry off. what Terry keeps trying to say is that these "errors" that make the Lynchpin work also apply across a lot of systems that have been built into our mathematical approximations of reality.
@JohnDoe-cd6ro That's because nothing, Terrence has stated, is based on any kind of actual facts. It seems like Eric was trying to keep from telling him why he's wrong
Did you watch the full 4 hours? He’s cutting Terrence off here because he kept driving home that Terrence is smart, knowledgeable and correct about things, but then the next breath says stupid nonsensical shit that makes mathematicians and scholars think he’s full of shit. He’s basically trying to coach Terrence how to propose his ideas like a sane person so people can give him credit. Ex: Terrence - “2 is a special number and not a normal even number because it is the only even number that is also a prime number, and the square root of it you get in a calculator is incorrect”. mathematicians - “true! Nice! You figured that out on your own… that’s intelligence!” Next sentence: Terrence - “so that means 1x1 is 2.“ mathematicians and population - “man this dude is dumb af and crazy af”.
Terrence Howard doesn’t have to be right or genius but we know he’s been a consistent actor since the 90s and on the side as a passion was learning and teaching himself high levels of math and physics. Weinstein during that same time has been doing nothing but this academically and yet people in the comments think their smart by pointing out that one of the smartest mathematicians is smarter than an actor that did enough to rattle the whole scientific and mathematical world.
Respect to this comment. Terrence is doing, while the PHD dorks are just running their mouths, as they do. It is telling that Eric doesn't even know anything about the flower of life, but has the nerve to scold someone on what is right or wrong. Eric is establishment educated so he wants everyone to think he is an authority. Really, Eric isn't doing anything of great value and his time talking to Terrence is some of his greatest exposure. Terrence needs to stand on the fact that the traditional science system doesn't have a seat at the head of the table. They are just company like anyone else willing to challenge ideas.
@@rashadd2615 It’s nonsense to highly educated mathematicians, but if you watch the interview, Weinstein said and asked the definition of at least a dozen words I’ve never heard of and Terrence knew what they were, his theories might be wrong but his understanding isn’t. But you probably understood what they were talking about to know which part was nonsense.
@@liamwillick2059 You asking me or Terrence? I'm not the one claiming what he's claiming... Apart from that I have my Bachelor's degree and I'm also a business owner, with 10 people employed... Some with their Masters... I must be doing some right. 🤷🏾♂️
Completely incorrect math, lack of understanding of physics, and not using words correctly aside... he certainly put some shapes together in an interesting way.
@@TheMaddBlackMann he was being nice to the guy. I never said it was random, those are your words. People like me huh? You mean critically thinking people who know a bs artist when they hear one?
@@kevinsedwards lol @themaddblackmann thinks Terrence is a genius. He's arguing this nonsense on a lot of comments. I hate how stupid society is becoming.
Yep should be 432hz not 440hz. The later being off frequency to the human resonance. Scientists ignore this vibration but Tesla didn't. If they admit to it, hello free power. That's why it's debunked.
YEP, and NOPE... this is not what Terence and Eric are talking about. Hear me out before you dismiss this. Eric is saying it's genius because of temperament. The math is adjusted slightly to make it work better than if you used pure math. Maybe that speaks to our math being wrong, maybe not. I don't have the skills or knowledge to argue this either way, but i do know temperament in my bones. Especially when it comes to music, which is what Eric is relating it to, even if he's not saying it outright. Pythagoras showed us you can take a string, pull it tight, and pluck it to make a tone or note. Cut it in half, you'll get the same tone/note one octave higher. Our western musical scale is based on tones in-between those octaves. Which are really based on the harmonic series, but that's a whole different story. The point is... if you use pure math to divide these tones they sound beautiful within the octave.. no matter the tuning.. 440 420 whatever. and we werked with it for hundreds of years. Only problem was if you wanted to modulate outside of that one octave or key, you'd run into sour notes, they were called wolf notes. Then one day a genius came along, not unlike Terrence, named Johann Sebastian Bach. And this is before pianos existed. They was on harpsichordz and shit. He was like "What if we fudge these tunings just a bit... Like take the wolf notes and split the difference between all the notes in the octave?" The result is the temperament tuning. Which is what we use today. Most people wouldn't even notice that slight detune in our scales, but it gives us the freedom to modulate outside of that one octave, and go wherever we want musically without unintentional dissonance. Eric is saying he's a genius because of temperament. Temperament by definition is deviating from the pure math, and that's a good thing sometimes!!! Harmony is a whole different thing... individual notes/tones and timbres intertwining in ways that make a new thing out of their individual parts. The main thing I'm tryin to say is... you right. Music was better 50 years ago 😅
Terrence is the very definition of the dunning-kruger effect. He knows just enough to think he's a genius but not enough to know how stupid he really is.
Why did Eric Weinstein say in this very interview that Tyson referring to the Dunning Kruger effect in relation to Howard was him being disingenuous? His only criticism was that Howard sometimes uses incorrect semantics and should get third party evaluation of his theories rather than teaching them before they are evaluated.
That’s straight b.s. At the end of the day all these guys are just guessing . Guessing . No matter how eloquently they put it. Here’s analogy for you : there once was a supposed wise man, that thought he was so smart, he was too dumb to understand he didn’t know it all.
Lol I'm gonna take that line from Terrence "Jason do you understand what's Happening when the 3rd degree of the Tetrahedron can't fit with the Pythagoram angle?" Me: "B." "Actually, it signifies.... "Oh, THAT's what you're talking about." Aka "I wasn't totally lost, I simply misunderstood what you were asking."
A guy at work said “TH is a moron who learnt to use a few big words” that statement is so obviously not true, when Eric said you’re clearly self taught because of your mispronunciation of words, is all you need to hear to be very impressed imho
I love that Terrence is so curious! And so courageous to share something he knows will be contentious. I don’t care if he is ‘wrong’. I’m so glad he is loud about his idea.
Howard is not stupid at all, no one heard him say "I'm gonna show you noble gas and I'm gonna show you matter". Physicists like me know what he is referring to. Noble gases are the only gases with a potential difference capability, liquid Helium, at -93°C creates a Meissner London effect,where matter becomes a superconductor in suspended animation, with potential differences all around it,the basis for quantum computers.
"You have a pythagorean comma in the middle of your linchpin." --Eric politely telling him everything he's done is worn out, hack science that intentionally disregards mathematics. Terrence: 2:05 "Yes, I do!" -Howard admitting it. Conversation should've ended there. Which it DID (2:11) and then Howard literally runs away deflecting. I used to think Howard was crazy, but this exchange, pob brought on by drinking, proved he's just a scoundrel.
At first, I was like wow Howard is going off the deep end. But in a sense I can admire him for trying to have a new understanding of things. Although flawed in some areas, he makes an attempt at understanding, and dosent overstep into the realm of pure ignorance. He listens and debates like a normal person should. Although he does some things I don’t agree with, I hope he continues his path in understanding mathematics and the whole realm of it
Put simply, Terrence needs WAY more training than he has now. The guy is more suited to be an "inventor" as he lacks geometric foundations (incorrect use of arc-cosine function), misinterprets tetrahedral angles, makes erroneous claims of undiscovered geometry, and lack of empirical evidence. The main thing is that his basic error in basic trigonometric calculation completely undermines all the arguments he makes.....noting but logical fallacies and non-scientific justifications. When you get any kook that speaks with confidence, uses what seems to be esoteric knowledge, and is not challenged, he can get away with just about anything. Its the same reason why you see many leaders in huge companies not knowing much about the area they lead and still holding high positions.
The long version of a backhanded compliment! All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.(A.S.)
Can you give an example of this so I can understand what you’re saying? Do you mean “idea” or “theory” instead of truth? Seems like some truths are immediately self-evident like saying the sky is blue.
@@curtisclack9067 I could ponder this (not the flat earth thing) for a while. Willful ignorance seems to be the wild card in all this. You can prove a truth to be self-evident but people will still refuse to acknowledge it.
@@carrow2250it's not self evident that the sky is blue, the sky can be many different colors depending on the conditions, I've seen orange skies, purple skies, pink skies, even green and yellow skies
A broken clock is right twice a day. But that doesn’t mean I schedule my life by a broken clock. Just because it’s right twice doesn’t negate the 1438 times that day it was wrong.🤷🏻♂️
@@davidgabrieltaylora broken clock isn't the same as a clock that's set on the wrong time. A broken clock doesn't work at all. And it's also referring to an analog clock.
" You're gonna f**k the whole thing up." Eric is hilarious!
I think he's suggesting "With my brain and your ignorance, we can team up and make a lot of money from this nonsense." But you need to stop saying stupid shit.
@@tapewerm6716yea. Nonsense that makes tons of money and impresses a mathematical genius.
@@dont-touch-mepg1392 Weinstein is being extremely polite (and condescending). He is NOT impressed. I guarantee you in private he mercilessly mocks Terrence Howard.
@@tapewerm6716 bingo. i've often wondered how much progress we lose due to the tyranny of mediocrity over f.u.d. fueled by the outliers' exceptionalism. like imagine if einstein had a carolina accent.
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I am fascinated by Eric's Nobel peace prize-worthy patience.
nobel peace prize patience when he spoke 87% of the podcast. thats interesting
@@ThepurposeofTimeI think they mean his willingness to respectfully critique and have an homest discussion about his theories. Most others like NDT have simply refuted him and didn’t give Terrance a chance to have scientific discussion.
@@ThepurposeofTime And you didn't listen at all did you?
@@justinjones8583 so he deserves a nobel peace prize because he sat in the same room as him? there werent that much discussion, mostly Eric speaking
It must have been like discussing automatic transmission with a duck!
Idk why everyone is hating on Howard. The fact that he is self taught and understands this type of material is astonishing. Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.
I dont think he is hating, he is doing his job.
@@apologizeplease I’m good with Eric I mean people in the comment section
Terrence doesn't get it though. He knows some fancy words buts he uses them out of context, and he doesn't understand the science behind them. He pretends to know everything, and people that aren't into science don't know how clueless he is.
@@MrKydaman Who cares about terminology if you have something that could be used to improve energy generation? It's like a guy who makes a prototype for a quantum drive but misuses how terms associated with fractal density works and people decide crap on his lack of appropriate terminology rather than looking at testing his prototype.
Eric hattin cuz he got smart without paying a bunch if money to a fancy school for clout.
The way Eric talks to Terrence throughout the whole interview is so admirable.
insulting him. That foo couldn't even give a direct response. the you have pushing liquor on him when he said no. Joe, the way you swing on his nut, you think your Tarzan 😅😅 Terrence much love and respect to your research.
You mean talking down to him?
if he wanted to talk down to him he would make it very obvious. He was being respectful as much as he could while deconstructing what Howard was trying to say while teaching him why he was wrong.
@@bond-yieldbond007 Thank you, it’s more of he can’t believe that a self taught polymath has actually discovered something new. Furthermore, probably more subconsciously a black polymath at that. Moreover, he still cannot help but give him credit for seeing the contradictions in our mathematics 🔍
Eric seems to be trying to shake Terrence off the trail when he gets warm by saying yes that’s right but it’s also called this. He seems to be overly critiquing Terrence on certain terminologies and understandings & not wanting to say that’s right. What do you guys think?
You have to watch the interview in its entirety to be able to answer accurately and truthfully.
As HIGHLY intelligent as Eric Weinstein is, it’s so great to see him patiently educated and review Terrence’s many thesis 🙂
🥴LMFAO
@@jd43tv56 Good for you 😉
Eric is mainstream of course he will disagree
@@randomstuff797 Give him credit for even being there and he actually helped Terrence
@@randomstuff797This means nothing. Explain how howard is correct
"Don't throw away the baby with the bath water."
Very wise words.
What does it mean though???
@@phinaphina3201 Dont dismiss one idea just because the others are wrong
@@phinaphina3201it means in this day and age…you are going to jail…😂
Maybe some of things he say are wrong but it hasn’t been studied enough to just throw everything away without diving further into it, in other words there might be some hidden gems in everything he’s saying!
@@phinaphina3201Back in the good old west many people had to re-use the same bath water. After many uses the water would get really dirty where you couldn't see through it and needed to be dumped hence the saying came about to check your water before dumping, because there might be a child playing underwater. Sounds silly I know😂😂😂
Joe Rogan is a spectator here 😂
More like a facilitator
Probably go what the hell were they talking about
99% of us are spectators
He's a spectator in the nose bleed seats with a pair binoculars.
Did U ever fly this thing while on DMT🤔? - Joe Rogan
80% of the viewers didn't learn from this podcast...they just developed a new critic
99,9% are ignorant and if they don't understand this is it! He is creazy,narcisist etc.
I learned by their interaction. It was a study of my fellow brothers.
What did you learn? Specifically?
@@Fermecatu Yes, everyone are wrong, and YOU`RE right, even if you didn`t finish first grade by the looks of your comment.
Go to school.
Where did you get that number specifically?
Talking out or your @ss just like Howard maybe?
Some people are so dumb it`s actually scary.
Terrence is definitely curious, driven and intelligent, just lacks formal training and education. Average person can’t even study a chapter out of an introductory biology book, I admire his fortitude and genuine curiosity. We need more people like this.
I would hope so biology became a required subject to graduate highschool back in 2002
His lack of formal training is probably why creativity was sparked
He spouts a bunch of nonsense very confidently and you clowns eat it up
We don't need more people like this, who if they had their way would have us stuck at year 1 level maths. The average person can read a biology book so I don't know where that came from. There's a difference between being curious, and just a narcissist who ultimately doesn't know how to think.
You're talking about him as if he's a slow adult. 😂
The same people who think Terrance has any clue what he’s talking about are the same people who are still buying NFTs.
the supply is infinite
Whatever you may think of this, I admired Terrence Howard for diving into this type of stuff. Most people don’t have the fortitude to do so. I hope he continues to do this and grow into it.
I hope he learns how to say “I am wrong about this” out loud. Because this is all wasted if he never see himself being incorrect while looking evidence in the face
The coolest thing is terrance has enough money to actually get a formal education , pair that up with eric's connections and maybe the guy can improve
He better learn actual math.
Right let’s ignore all the people who have STEM degrees like myself. Terrance is a dumbass
Yes
When I’m right, I’m right.
When I’m wrong, I could have been right, so I’m still right cause I could have been wrong.
Bama aka Terrence Howard.
Lmao I loved that in get rich or die trying
I was bamboozled at first
@@rickDArula its facts tho highkey XD
😂😂😂
But I’m right
😂😅
✅Potentially novel engineering idea for drone
🚫Grand Unified Theory
"Garlic makes my feet stink" 😂😂
Anybody kind enough to explain the joke here? It lost me.
It's just a random statement because Terrence is saying he doest understand what he has just been told, so he's playing that he thinks we are just saying random things to each other.
@@gazf6163 Thank you!
"I'm right because I have a patent" 🤣
I didn't know whether to laugh or cry !
he should have called Eric the nword for emphasis imo. "I am the inventor, because i hold the patents n-" - Terrence Howard 2024
He come straight out with a technical question to test Terrance and Terrance replied with "garlic makes my feet stink" 😅
Did you create a new method of propulsion or even understand half of what they were talking about? no .. go do something meaningful with your life.
@@nostromotrades 😂😂😂😂 nice reply brother, terry cult for sure.😂😂
When fame, drugs and delusion go to your head and none of your team gets you the help you need
Some context as to why this total bullshit:
1) Nobody claims that the arccos (-1/3) = 3/5*PI. The arccos (-1/3)=~109.47degrees where 3/5*PI radians = 108 degrees. This is not an "error"; it is a known geometric property.
2) He doesn't explain how this discrepancy actually applies to the geometry of attempting to join 6 pentagons in that fashion, but the crux of it is that the angles of a regular pentagon are each 108deg whereas the dihedral angle (angle created by connecting the center of a polyhedron and its vertices) of a regular tetrahedron (4-sided pyramid where each side is an equilateral triangle) is 109.47deg.
3) The tetrahedron he is referring to would be constructed from the points where the pentagon edges come together which cannot be the same as the edges of the pentagons and still connect at a common center point. Therefore, connecting 6 pentagons in that fashion does NOT form the shape that Terrence Howard has shown as there would be a gap in the center if the shapes were made and joined correctly.
4) This is not an "undiscovered geometry". This is a known fact.
5) Eric didn't mean "Even Temperament". He meant "Equal Temperament" as opposed to "Just Intonation" which are two 'methods' for tuning instruments. This is a topic way bigger than a TH-cam comment, but just look it up and you'll see that the essence of it is that musical notes don't necessarily follow strict mathematical intervals. A variation of Equal Temperament is how instruments in the western world have been tuned for centuries and is certainly not "a lie".
6) The "Pythagorean Comma" is the slight gap that is created when attempting to create a "circle of fifths" as the Pythagoreans wanted to divide the musical scale up in equal fifths due to the mathematical harmony of doing so even though it doesn't quite sound right to most people.
7) Although both of these concepts are similar, they have zero relation to one another.
8) It is a fallacy to state that the 6-motor "lynchpin" configuration has 6 degrees of freedom where a quadcopter has only 4. The "lynchpin" copter would have 6 degrees of freedom using a fixed motor configuration where a quad copter has 6 degrees of freedom by pitching its motors and varying the torque around it center.
9) The reasons why people don't make drones that way is that it is wildly inefficient compared to a quad copter. Any additional maneuverability obtained is completely overshadowed by the need for two additional motors, all the added weight of the airframe, and the fact that it would be an completely unstable airframe at high speed (where a quad copter with a tail fin is easily made stable). Furthermore, the "lynchpin" drone has no way to apply more than 3 motors in the direction of motion (and even then they are at an angle 30deg off from the angle of motion) as opposed to a quad copter that can have all 4 pointed directly in the direction of flight.
10) The best comparison I can make is comparing a helicopter to an airplane. Just because a helicopter is more maneuverable doesn't make it ideal for efficient flight, and that added mobility comes at a huge cost. (Also note that a helicopter gets 6 degrees of mobility fairly efficiently using only two rotors).
11) Terrence is a good actor, but not that good of an actor. It is obvious that he has no idea what Eric Weinstein is talking about in most of this conversation.
This episode changed the way I think about Terrence
How so? I am trying to convince myself of watching it
@@danielgomessilva8966Eric gave him way more credit than people expected
Listen to it. There was much to learn it it even just the way they interacted
Thank u so much for saying this ❤not all has the heart to At least confess to their later thoughts of some one.
They both just show respect for each other... He praises Terrance when he thinks he deserves it and guides him back from some of his more outlandish points. It's a genuine conversation with Joe as the host
He’s self taught but that’s not impressive because he’s wrong. He’s the personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
He also destroyed terrance on literally everything else. He basically told him you made a cool shape take the compliment without talking because your going to further discredit yourself
Yet a lot of people didn't understand what Weinstein was talking about and based on the general tone of the conversation came to the conclusion that he was supporting Howard.
Getting one thing right tho is amazing. He think outside the rules and when rules are set you can’t question them. Socrates was killed for his ideas
@@fabolousjada5070 no bro Terrence fans cry themsleves to sleep trying to comfort themselves that Terrence is a genius because the made some dumb drone thing. no he did not, there is no use for what he created it is useless. that his why no one cares. by thinking outside the rules I think you mean thinking in a way that is just logicaly wrong, there is a difference.
He knows he's talking to an insane person lol, who was also very drunk by the end of the podcast.
Huge props to Eric for being so patient and kind with someone so insufferable.
Was that duet that we needed but never knew 😮
All three were singing .. Rogan, Terrance and Eric.
that was the only part i undetstood xd
Maybe they needed it. I’m positive I did not lol
“I remember my Mom tryna flush me, the same way Skinny Black tried to flush me, but true greatness will always prevail” -Terrence Howard
This was a great Interview they're very respectful towards Made jokes and didn't try to make the other feel stupid instead I listen to each other which is how we all should be
@@elmzgalaxy3313 bot
Imagine terrance howards' reaction had Lego not been invented
I fking knew it. He received information from the spiritual plane and he JUST ADMITTED IT.
it was a guy who sent it to him... he asked online for ideas. he didnt even invent this
This is the type of content we all should be watching and listening to everyday, instead of all that sex, porn and stupidity we are forced to have to watch, love these two geniuses
Forced to watch stupidity? Idk about that but there's tons of free academia online. Go for it.
Wouldn't call Howard a genius
the thing is eric is not a genius either. he shouldve said whats wrong with all the stuff terrence says DIRECTLY but he didnt. he wants to grab some of terrence community thats it. if he would just deny everything and explain why its so wrong then terence fans would instantly hate him. openyour eyes man
@@m.l.2871 I'm fully convinced Eric just wants people to fall back on. Worst people to pair up on this podcast.
@@sking379 we absolutely should not be listening to this drivel
Amazing portion of the conversation they capture. Beautiful outro. Thanks.
Rollinn…. Rolllinn….
Agree
Except Eric is doing the backup wrong .. He's supposed to repeat "rollin" not say "oh lord".
1x1=2 😂
No matter how smart you think Howard is…. He tried to reinvent basic math with this bullshit 😂
Terrence clarified that it is a metaphor. I believe what he is saying is that in real life arithmetic does not always work as we expect. E.g while 1+1=2 what is one cloud plus one cloud? Is it two clouds or is it one cloud if they are close enough. In arithmetic when you multiply one by one it is one but if you multiply one wave by one wave you will not get the same wave.
@@shaylove3786
Ahh...great! Thx for your thoughts. I only saw a few clips (lot of bashing T.H.), but didn't have the patience to see the entire podcast (have to dive deeper into that).
Yeah, nature can't be forced into corset of "simple" mathematics, as in 1x1, 1:0 (ok, here "simple" only means the small numbers, not the implications behind it...), etc. it's interactive, synchronized, fractal and so much more than "numbers"...numb? 😮
@@shaylove3786 except the time he said the reason for economic problems is banks work on 1dollar x 1 dollar = 1 dollar and it could be solved by 1dollar x 1dollar= 2 dollars. Because multiply means to increase. That's a metaphor?! I don't see it.
@@shaylove3786 What do you mean "wave". Some continuous function? A phasor? A discrete set of points approximating a wave-like shape? A function that generates that discrete set of points? A function that generates that function that generates that discrete set of points??? Those are all mathematical objects that could be called "waves" that can be "multiplied". Omitting specifics and just saying "multiplying one wave by one wave" doesn't get you "two waves" because absolutely NOTHING in that statement has any actual, rigorous mathematical meaning. It is literally mathematically meaningless. You can't state something as scientific fact if you can't even clearly state it in the first place. Terrence continuously asserting his stupid shit as groundbreaking insight is what makes him come off as so moronic and delusional.
@@shaylove3786 I dont think you got it right either. And I dont think he was being metaphorical, he was serious. The thing is that you can do one cloud plus one cloud, but in real life you CAN'T multiply clouds between them. I can add clouds but for multiplying you have a given nnumber of clouds multiplied by an abstraction which is the number. Natural numbers have a counterpart in real life, but you cant multiply a cloud with a cloud. You can only multiply a cloud by a given number. That's what terrence doesnt understand, and its shown on his work where he talks about multiplying one penny with another penny. Its just nonsense.
The fact Terrance can even have intelligent convo with him makes him a genius
the fact that you said that make you not a genius
Eric had to dumm down to talk to him. It was good anyway. But Terrence is up to Ericz heals. Don't assume they are in the same level based on this interview
Did you listen to the interview?
Did we watch the same thing? That entire video was the guy very nicely telling Terrance that he had no clue what he was talking about but potentially stumbled on a cool thing in spite of it.
Wut genius? Even my 4 year old son knows what 1+1 equals 😂
I think I just lost all my mathematical brain cells I thought I had
He kept getting thrown off and interrupted, but the idea of modular drone swarms based off that design is actually pretty nuts. Imagine having 80 of them with like a 2lb lift capacity each in a warehouse, wirelessly tasked by an ai neural net to identify and move packages in 3d space for max efficiency, grouping together magnetically whenever they need to lift heavier objects.
but the problem is i think it would be less energy efficient at hovering because of more weight and les propulsion shooting downwards. Its biggest advantage is its6 degrees of freedom to fly around. I'm thinking of them working inside a giant beehive mind kind of thing but regualr drones could also do the job so idk.
why? what the issue with 4 motor drone for warehouse? how would this be better? you dont need drone to rotate wildly, you only need stable platform for warehouse operation
@MartinDlabaja the only answer would be their ability to connect to eachother. You could achieve the same thing with multiple 4 rotor drones, but you'd have significantly less structural integrity in that design, which is important for heavy lifting. That's about the only possible benefit I can think of.
Sounds incredibly energy inefficient compared to a bridge crane and some robotic pallet jacks
@@rivenstone64 With drones, more motors do not necessarily mean more lift.
Would it not be easier to make multiple drones instead?
"Garlic makes my feet stink!!" Lol. Classic. I really enjoyed this episode. Howard humbles himself and listens to this expert, which is very cool. Hire this guy Mr. Howard. Pay him for his factual knowledge. Let's save this world. ;-)
...this is like watching 2 idiots lose to a pigeon in tag-team tic-tac-toe...
This is such a low-key beautiful moment of vindication.
@@BobbyDaDan how so.
@@sirKonradical the acknowledgement of a mathematical discovery by a respected scientist, especially after weeks of ridicule.
@@BobbyDaDan You mean being nice?
@@BobbyDaDan It's not a discovery because it's not real
@@BobbyDaDan So you believe 1×1=2? Yes or no? Why or why not?
Howard isn't crazy, he literally having a conversation with PhD professor.
A physics professor, no less
That means about as much as having a patent. NOTHING
eric is just being nice
if hes not a genius, then that should tell you how crazy he'd need to be for him to get that that kind of attention
Please don't insult your intelligence and say that Howard held his own in this convo.
Terrence look like a kid on xmas morning with his designs and i love it 😂
In fact these shapes are actually based on what he got wrong. If you listen to the interview, he clearly states this. When he’s talking about the lynch pin
He said it cause he felt bad for teaching him about the dunning krueger effect
This might be this might be the greatest conversation I've ever heard these dudes are genius...
Terrence discovered geometry. That’s it, that’s all.
I just respect the desire to understand and think outside the box.
Eric really knows his stuff.
No he didn’t.
He does. Just watch the clip. The rest of the podcast, however, he stops Terrence from sharing his thoughts.
@@Haveuseenmyjetpackdude was a pompous prick
He does, but he states that he doesn’t know if he’s the first person to do so but if he is it’s extraordinary, you definitely didn’t watch were explaining the lynch pin
@@dharrison119 nothing new under the sun i think as the atmosphere errodes the knowledge that assisted all advanced leaders in the distant past present and future our 3 axis of perception
Just another empty hater...
He is clever. Terence is just questioning and actually getting us as public interested in stem.
Nope he is an idiot who startted new movement called Terrencology that soon will substitute flat earth.... similarly its based on pseudoscience, spiritualism and conspiracy theories :P
No, he's pulling gullible people like yourself into the fold of bullshit.
No he's not. He's misleading people and basically growing a cult of morons that think he's some sort of prophet. He says he's been visited by an angel who taught him all this crap.
@@padraigomadain6681 🤦
Terrence Howard is doing what Neil Degrasse Tyson started out doing. He's inspiring average folks to learn science
He's inspiring them to learn pseudoscience.
@@tapewerm6716 That pseudo science has some very interesting aspects and some that admitted are a bit absurd/out there for me.
It's cool as it gets you thinking. Especially the shapes and patterns he creates
He's doing what conspiracy theorist do.
Don’t do Neil dirty like that by comparing him to Terrence
@@stoborkingSo you think 1×1=2?
Forget critical thinking or following the scientific method, seems like even straight forward common sense is at it's all time low..
I can't remember who said or where I heard this. My favorite quote: Common sense isn't.
Gahhhh, the irony of using the incorrect contraction 'it's' when leaving a comment dripping with pretense.
@@MrHuddo "look ma! I called out someone's autocorrect! Now I'm smart!" Cool story. Put your helmet back on and sit back down.
Your scientist gods don't even follow the scientific method.
@@EnigmaticAnamoly Stand back up because it would be something more akin to "auto-incorrect."
The very fact that Terrence goes into jokes breaks out and song and chuckles throughout the conversation means he is seriously insecure, caught out there, cannot truly answer and realizes he is outmatched
He asked him to sing the song because they were talking about thirds and fifths in chords. This clip has been edited to capture the gist of the conversation. You should watch the interview. They were all having a good time.
I think you are grossly misrepresenting Terrence's view of this conversation. Terrence has said many times throughout the podcast that he is looking for someone like Eric Weinstein to help him make sense of these ideas so that other intellectuals like Eric Weinstein's colleagues will not feel so offended by what he is trying to convey.
Terrence thinks vastly differently to how Eric thinks. It's like a fish saying to a squirrel, "I am better than you at swimming" and then the squirrel going to the fish "yeah but can you climb a tree?" They simply think differently.
@@PhoenixSommer That's horseshit. It's like a fly on top of an elephant saying "Let's team up, you and me! We'll take over the world." lol.
@tapewerm6716 Terrence is not trying to take over the world. He genuinely believes he has ideas that will contribute to science. Whether Terrence's theories benefit the scientific field or not remains to be seen. It takes an unconventional viewpoint to change an otherwise stagnant domain. Keep in mind that the first person to say the Earth was round was considered a heretic. We used to think smoking was good for us. You are simply perpetuating an old cycle.
Weinstein has expressed how he is interested in working with Howard (prbly for the business opportunity and exposure) yet I'm sure Eric would help Howard articulate his points in such a way that would allow other intellectuals understand the theories a little more.
Me, I understand Howard perfectly. He speaks much like someone I know. I know more or less what Howard is trying to say, and he is attempting to provide information that others may have overlooked. Eric himself even said, "This is why you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater." A highly logical thinker is more open-minded than you, apparently.
Are you a psychologist ? No so sit down my guy
You cant discover something by accident. If its an accident you DIDNT DISCOVER IT. You STUMBLED upon it.
Terrence proves that no matter what bullcrap you produce, someone out there will like it.
thats a poor evaluation.
Right on
There is a market for everything. Especially since the internet
@@dfacedagame You have proven my point. Thanks.
You don't understand the potential of what he has done. This may be the technology that delivers your packages in the future and as he says may also replace cranes and other types of heavy machinery in the future. He is on to something.
Terrence needs to keep working on it..
He is tralblazing through the thickets, what for? I'm not sure yet.. he is a man on a mission to god knows where.. all the best!
all he did was use the wrong angle for a geometric shape to try forcing something to exist that can't exist. IT essentially boils down to him jamming the rectangle into the square whole, and breaking the toy.
@@RockSleeper OR he helped him realize that they were making the toy wrong to begin with. It literally all is in how one perceives a concept. I don't know if TH is a genius or not,but many discoveries are made by accident and lots - if not most of physics - is a bunch of mostly unproven theories anyway. We are finite beings and don't know near as much as we think we do as humans,while at the same time dismissing others' logic and personal experiences. Don't even try to pretend like you and Dr EW here are above that,lol. Human science is no longer ruled by truth;it's ruled by money,prestige,and the fear of being wrong. Ask me how I know how,with repeated firsthand experience.
@@JF94-k4o You can't go from a hoodlum to a civilized human
LOL far from a genius:
Put simply, Terrence needs WAY more training than he has now. The guy is more suited to be an "inventor" as he lacks geometric foundations (incorrect use of arc-cosine function), misinterprets tetrahedral angles, makes erroneous claims of undiscovered geometry, and lack of empirical evidence. The main thing is that his basic error in basic trigonometric calculation completely undermines all the arguments he makes.....noting but logical fallacies and non-scientific justifications.
When you get any kook that speaks with confidence, uses what seems to be esoteric knowledge, and is not challenged, he can get away with just about anything. Its the same reason why you see many leaders in huge companies not knowing much about the area they lead and still holding high positions.
@idjr2654 so far it's 73 to 0...
Open minded ultra rational vs inspired. The one is trying to box the other into his way of thinking while the other is having trouble presenting his ideas by the others language
BINGO
This guy gets it. To Eric's credit, though, he even derides his own institutions' way of thinking and credits Terrence for bringing forth concepts that challenge the notion of the standardised way of utilising the scientific method. I hope Terrence keeps going and I hope his work is actually properly prototyped and theoretically tested with vigorous rigor. I would hate to see it get scooped up and buried under some kind of mega-corps' patent landfill where many innovative ideas go to be lost forever.
Finally, someone else on here who gets it, thank you for your simple but brilliant explanation
Inspired doesn't mean correct. You seem to forget that Terrance spent so much time saying how everybody else is wrong. An ego so large that he proclaims himself a genius. He now holds a conversation with the real deal, and his ideas were quickly pulled apart. To Eric's credit, he treated Terrance with respect while completely dismantling his ideas. You could tell early into the podcast, Terry knew he wasn't going to fool Eric with Jargon, word salad, and out of context science.
The emperor has no clothes.
Ultra rational is crazy considering he claimed the big red spot is the site of moon formation. Uneducated vs educated is more apt.
Some people think cucumbers taste better pickled
I don't buy it. Weinsten would say that Howard's ideas are passed over because of some conspiracy in the academic world, when the reason is that Howard's ideas are mostly foolish and Howards probably could not pass high school math. Those who are impressed by Howard's ramblings probably could not pass either.
"Don't go chromatic"
Bro this episode reminded me of dinner for schmucks. The little looks eric and joe kept giving eachother made me think this was an inside joke.
Glad I wasn't the only one who caught that.
They know this entire "debate" is bs. Just something popular on TH-cam that will gain millions of views. Its not a serious scientific or intellectual discussion
Eric keeps referring to Terrance like he's not in the room... like he's trying to interpret Terrance's prophetic ramblings for the listeners. 😂
Terrence has dropped one too many tabs of Acid.
.
or too low either way the amount he is taking is not correct
This is the idiocracy on full display.
When Terrence pulled out the white structure I fell out my chair😂😂😂
@@kagisomolapo21 he is ignorant for a reason
@@sirKonradical And what would that reason be sir?
@@kagisomolapo21 because he surrounded himself with "yes" men
Idk wtf any of this means
Basically he can make a new propulsion system off this. The aliens must've beamed his head and gave him this info.
Neither does Terrence. Just play along and people will think you're a genius in no time.
Most of these people don't
Smiling in agreement, also hoping the teacher doesn't point me out in class and ask me to stand up and see if I can answer the question... wtf was the question
First bloody honest comment on here! Ditto to that! 🤣
4 hours of a whole buncha nothin' . They didn't finish a single thing, couldn't stay on topic, and just kept moving on to the next thing. It reminded me of a college party where everyone is absolutely faded, drunk and high trying to have a philosophical conversation but forgetting where their thoughts were going.
some progress was made because they did some interpreting of what Terrence is trying to put forward but Eric still doesn't understand all of it and keeps cutting Terry off. what Terry keeps trying to say is that these "errors" that make the Lynchpin work also apply across a lot of systems that have been built into our mathematical approximations of reality.
@JohnDoe-cd6ro That's because nothing, Terrence has stated, is based on any kind of actual facts. It seems like Eric was trying to keep from telling him why he's wrong
Did you watch the full 4 hours? He’s cutting Terrence off here because he kept driving home that Terrence is smart, knowledgeable and correct about things, but then the next breath says stupid nonsensical shit that makes mathematicians and scholars think he’s full of shit. He’s basically trying to coach Terrence how to propose his ideas like a sane person so people can give him credit.
Ex:
Terrence - “2 is a special number and not a normal even number because it is the only even number that is also a prime number, and the square root of it you get in a calculator is incorrect”.
mathematicians - “true! Nice! You figured that out on your own… that’s intelligence!”
Next sentence:
Terrence - “so that means 1x1 is 2.“
mathematicians and population - “man this dude is dumb af and crazy af”.
The model looks like a Biblically accurate angel
No it doesn’t
@@heythere6983 Yes it does, sir. Seraphim ..
@@RizzKidd I kinda see what youre saying but the basic shape isnt really enough to say it looks like an angel.
@@heythere6983 I can respect that.
Terrence Howard thinks he’s Nikola Tesla but he’s more closely related to the 3 stooges.
The way shared information is used in this clip is AMAZING!!!!
Terrence talks below 5th grade level mathematics. It's sad that this impresses people.
What grade level are you on?
It's sad, but expected. Most people go through life with a 1st or 2nd grade level of mathematical understanding/ retention.
5th grade 😂 you my friend = hater … get me a avg 5th grader who can speak on a subject like this
@@fabolousjada5070 my sister who is 10 has a better grasp on math than this so called genius.
Terrence Howard doesn’t have to be right or genius but we know he’s been a consistent actor since the 90s and on the side as a passion was learning and teaching himself high levels of math and physics. Weinstein during that same time has been doing nothing but this academically and yet people in the comments think their smart by pointing out that one of the smartest mathematicians is smarter than an actor that did enough to rattle the whole scientific and mathematical world.
Eric Weinstein is a moron.
Yes "rattled" by pushing a bunch of nonsense.
Respect to this comment. Terrence is doing, while the PHD dorks are just running their mouths, as they do. It is telling that Eric doesn't even know anything about the flower of life, but has the nerve to scold someone on what is right or wrong. Eric is establishment educated so he wants everyone to think he is an authority. Really, Eric isn't doing anything of great value and his time talking to Terrence is some of his greatest exposure. Terrence needs to stand on the fact that the traditional science system doesn't have a seat at the head of the table. They are just company like anyone else willing to challenge ideas.
@@rashadd2615 It’s nonsense to highly educated mathematicians, but if you watch the interview, Weinstein said and asked the definition of at least a dozen words I’ve never heard of and Terrence knew what they were, his theories might be wrong but his understanding isn’t. But you probably understood what they were talking about to know which part was nonsense.
Jesus did carpentry on the side & still change the world for eternity
I urge everyone to watch the whole interview... Terrence was scolded in the nicest way possible.
@@liamwillick2059 You asking me or Terrence? I'm not the one claiming what he's claiming... Apart from that I have my Bachelor's degree and I'm also a business owner, with 10 people employed... Some with their Masters... I must be doing some right. 🤷🏾♂️
he should have been scolded harder, what an absolute moron.
and it was the wrong way to approach it
Big wheel keep on turning, proud Mary keep on burning!
My take away, Terrance is closer to Iron Man than Robert Downey Jr.
Completely incorrect math, lack of understanding of physics, and not using words correctly aside... he certainly put some shapes together in an interesting way.
Yet the genius said it was brilliant. You claim it was just randomly done. Why is it so hard for ppl like you to give credit where it’s due?
@@TheMaddBlackMann he was being nice to the guy. I never said it was random, those are your words. People like me huh? You mean critically thinking people who know a bs artist when they hear one?
@@j-dubb614 but if you watched the video you would see Erik thought Terrance was a genius in engineering. Yet you have more credibility I guess.
It's sad to see how many unintelligent people think this dude is a genius
@@kevinsedwards lol @themaddblackmann thinks Terrence is a genius. He's arguing this nonsense on a lot of comments. I hate how stupid society is becoming.
Humble , gracious, Blessed, and gifted with sight... Honored to witness Howards curiocity shake things up
He thinks that he's smarter than Einstein.
He's quite literally the opposite of everything you just said.
Terrance Howard is the real Tony Starks
Why's erbody throwin babies round, y'all?!?!?! 😢
YEP AND MUSIC NEEDS TO GO BACK TO IT'S PROPER HARMONY NOT THE ONE THEY INTRODUCED ABOUT 50YRS AGO.
You haven't heard hardstyle listen to Frontliner Spacer
Yep should be 432hz not 440hz. The later being off frequency to the human resonance. Scientists ignore this vibration but Tesla didn't. If they admit to it, hello free power. That's why it's debunked.
115hz, 225hz, and 432hz
I don't know but I been told,
Never slow down ,never grow old...
YEP, and NOPE... this is not what Terence and Eric are talking about. Hear me out before you dismiss this. Eric is saying it's genius because of temperament. The math is adjusted slightly to make it work better than if you used pure math.
Maybe that speaks to our math being wrong, maybe not. I don't have the skills or knowledge to argue this either way, but i do know temperament in my bones. Especially when it comes to music, which is what Eric is relating it to, even if he's not saying it outright.
Pythagoras showed us you can take a string, pull it tight, and pluck it to make a tone or note. Cut it in half, you'll get the same tone/note one octave higher.
Our western musical scale is based on tones in-between those octaves. Which are really based on the harmonic series, but that's a whole different story. The point is... if you use pure math to divide these tones they sound beautiful within the octave.. no matter the tuning.. 440 420 whatever. and we werked with it for hundreds of years.
Only problem was if you wanted to modulate outside of that one octave or key, you'd run into sour notes, they were called wolf notes.
Then one day a genius came along, not unlike Terrence, named Johann Sebastian Bach. And this is before pianos existed. They was on harpsichordz and shit. He was like "What if we fudge these tunings just a bit... Like take the wolf notes and split the difference between all the notes in the octave?"
The result is the temperament tuning. Which is what we use today. Most people wouldn't even notice that slight detune in our scales, but it gives us the freedom to modulate outside of that one octave, and go wherever we want musically without unintentional dissonance.
Eric is saying he's a genius because of temperament. Temperament by definition is deviating from the pure math, and that's a good thing sometimes!!!
Harmony is a whole different thing... individual notes/tones and timbres intertwining in ways that make a new thing out of their individual parts.
The main thing I'm tryin to say is...
you right. Music was better 50 years ago 😅
Terrance is a liar and is Grifting and the fact this dude knows the difference and still pushes nonsense is why America can't have nice things.
"Garlic makes my feet stink."
Terrence is the very definition of the dunning-kruger effect. He knows just enough to think he's a genius but not enough to know how stupid he really is.
Why did Eric Weinstein say in this very interview that Tyson referring to the Dunning Kruger effect in relation to Howard was him being disingenuous? His only criticism was that Howard sometimes uses incorrect semantics and should get third party evaluation of his theories rather than teaching them before they are evaluated.
You say this like it's something you actually came up with after thorough observation, yet it's just straight out of Niel deGrass.
Pretentious much
original
But true.
That’s straight b.s. At the end of the day all these guys are just guessing . Guessing . No matter how eloquently they put it. Here’s analogy for you : there once was a supposed wise man, that thought he was so smart, he was too dumb to understand he didn’t know it all.
Lol I'm gonna take that line from Terrence
"Jason do you understand what's Happening when the 3rd degree of the Tetrahedron can't fit with the Pythagoram angle?"
Me: "B."
"Actually, it signifies....
"Oh, THAT's what you're talking about."
Aka "I wasn't totally lost, I simply misunderstood what you were asking."
right? And then everyone in the comments is like Terrence is a genius. Lol
Except Howard didn't design his inefficient drone
😂
True. And just because he patents things doesn't make them true, you can patent anything someone else hasn't already patented.
@@MrHominid2U 😂
They don’t want Howard to figure it out 😂💀
What's genius about assembling a few pentagon shapes edge to edge? I've done this in 3D modeling, just doodling around.
I wonder how many patents Neil and Eric have.
Maybe as many as elon musk 😂
Probably the same amount as Terrance that being 0.
@@SlickArmor...I swear 'Black Intelligence' just brings out the hatred huh🤷🏽♂️?
I don't think patents mean what you think they mean lol
@@marlonpierre9832yup and it’s showing lol
It's sad before we can call him a genius, he has to go through every white person that doubts him.
neil degrasse tyson isnt white
Tell me about it 😢smdh
Socrates they killed him for his theories
@@fabolousjada5070 🎯
They never gave Terrence a final retort in this
No, he started singing instead, ruining the flow of Eric’s attempted aid.
@@ykw-mf1wjClowns gotta clown...
A guy at work said “TH is a moron who learnt to use a few big words” that statement is so obviously not true, when Eric said you’re clearly self taught because of your mispronunciation of words, is all you need to hear to be very impressed imho
I love that Terrence is so curious! And so courageous to share something he knows will be contentious. I don’t care if he is ‘wrong’. I’m so glad he is loud about his idea.
Fanatism don’t count
I want the smart Terrance back
Howard is not stupid at all, no one heard him say "I'm gonna show you noble gas and I'm gonna show you matter". Physicists like me know what he is referring to. Noble gases are the only gases with a potential difference capability, liquid Helium, at -93°C creates a Meissner London effect,where matter becomes a superconductor in suspended animation, with potential differences all around it,the basis for quantum computers.
Yeah that’s exactly what I was thinking
I'm not a physicist, but I can smell bullshit a mile away.
@@eastafrika728 Do you believe 1x1=2? Why or why not?
@@sirKonradical I believe 1x1=1=2. The reasons are common sense, not European entitled, subjection.
@@eastafrika728 🤣🤣🤣Explain
"You have a pythagorean comma in the middle of your linchpin." --Eric politely telling him everything he's done is worn out, hack science that intentionally disregards mathematics.
Terrence: 2:05 "Yes, I do!" -Howard admitting it.
Conversation should've ended there. Which it DID (2:11) and then Howard literally runs away deflecting. I used to think Howard was crazy, but this exchange, pob brought on by drinking, proved he's just a scoundrel.
At first, I was like wow Howard is going off the deep end. But in a sense I can admire him for trying to have a new understanding of things. Although flawed in some areas, he makes an attempt at understanding, and dosent overstep into the realm of pure ignorance. He listens and debates like a normal person should. Although he does some things I don’t agree with, I hope he continues his path in understanding mathematics and the whole realm of it
Put simply, Terrence needs WAY more training than he has now. The guy is more suited to be an "inventor" as he lacks geometric foundations (incorrect use of arc-cosine function), misinterprets tetrahedral angles, makes erroneous claims of undiscovered geometry, and lack of empirical evidence. The main thing is that his basic error in basic trigonometric calculation completely undermines all the arguments he makes.....noting but logical fallacies and non-scientific justifications.
When you get any kook that speaks with confidence, uses what seems to be esoteric knowledge, and is not challenged, he can get away with just about anything. Its the same reason why you see many leaders in huge companies not knowing much about the area they lead and still holding high positions.
The long version of a backhanded compliment!
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.(A.S.)
Can you give an example of this so I can understand what you’re saying? Do you mean “idea” or “theory” instead of truth? Seems like some truths are immediately self-evident like saying the sky is blue.
@@carrow2250 Earth was believed to be flat.
@@curtisclack9067 I could ponder this (not the flat earth thing) for a while. Willful ignorance seems to be the wild card in all this. You can prove a truth to be self-evident but people will still refuse to acknowledge it.
Oh look it's you again... For someone being so wrong you're sure spending a lot of time trying to prove that 🤣
@@carrow2250it's not self evident that the sky is blue, the sky can be many different colors depending on the conditions, I've seen orange skies, purple skies, pink skies, even green and yellow skies
Eric Weinstein: You're wrong, Terrence.
Terrence Howard: But -
Weinstein: But What?
Howard: Legos Mayne🥺
😂😂😂😂😂
Eric basically told Terrance that he is full of shit.
Shhhh .. everyone here thinks he was so nice. lol
No he didn't at all . That came from your negative, head energy .
Imagine commending this guy for trying to tell smart people they have been doing it wrong for hundres, if not thousands of years?
Heres another one: Broken clock is correct two times a day. That’s the one complement of his work he gave him in over 3 hours
Doesn't matter how "genius" his lynchpins are when his basic math is wrong
A broken clock is right twice a day. But that doesn’t mean I schedule my life by a broken clock.
Just because it’s right twice doesn’t negate the 1438 times that day it was wrong.🤷🏻♂️
A genius inventor is wrong until he’s right.
Is a broken clock right twice a day? I have a kitchen stove clock thats 24 minutes behind all the time. When is it right if its 24 minutes behind?
@davidgabrieltaylor it will still be right against another broken clock😂
Your clocks not broke then, just fix the time.@@davidgabrieltaylor
@@davidgabrieltaylora broken clock isn't the same as a clock that's set on the wrong time. A broken clock doesn't work at all. And it's also referring to an analog clock.
The long version of a backhanded compliment!