Pageant Mums Fight After Special Needs Contestant Is Interrupted On Stage | Toddlers & Tiaras
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- Pageant mums Katie and Becky go head-to-head after Katie's daughter is interrupted during her time on stage.
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They take this way to seriously. Yelling out like animal infront of a little child. Disturbing
A true Karen in the wild
I agree but if I had a special needs child and someone was that rude to them I would fuck them up lol
@@lindseyw5023
You damn right, so gross
I know the poor child looked so scared
the whole pageant thing is disturbing! i would never put my daughters through that..its disgusting and weird..they are kids not grown adults let them be kids!
Ableist cow. “Every kid is special.” Yeah, but not every kid is special needs.
She probably also screams proudly All lives matter... Yeah shut up Karen. Ignorant cow!
Emily Link that’s EXACTLY what I was thinking
Emily Yamasaki you two have the same name 😁
@@emilylink7126 they do .activate your butthurt.
@@TheJuiceor gave you a thumb so you could have some too :*
“ If she’s truly special needs, she shouldn’t be in regular pageants.”
OH HELL NO!! I have no tolerance for people saying shit like that. Pure trash right there. Good on Harley and her mom. Just because she has special needs doesn’t mean trash like Becky get to treat her like less of a human being! Absolutely disgusting.
LMFAO as if your opinion matters your the only one with like an anime profile picture LMFAOOOOO
@@varg_vikernes_count Says the one that literally has a gun or some kind of weapon while smiling. Yeah you seem like such a reasonable and intelligent person.
@@Mia-yx5gf You fr made me laugh with that comment like I'm being fr
@@varg_vikernes_count I’m being serious right now. What does my profile picture have anything to do with what I said in my comment? Seems like a pathetic reason to complain to me.
Not to mention that technically harlie’s mom could sue the ever loving FUCK out of Gem Stars for violating the ADA if they told her that Harlie couldn’t compete because she’s disabled.
As a fellow disabled girl I wanna give Harley the biggest hug. She doesn’t deserve the belittling comments, she deserves the world and more
same here I am with you on this
“My kid stutters” what type of comparison is that? People with disabilities need help mentally and physically and shes not even competing to win.
Exactly, I use to stutter when I was a kid at school or around adults. It was and anxiety problem for me. I just needed speech therapy classes for a while to overcome it. I still played soccer, chess, violin, taekwondo, and even theater years later. For her to compare that to other more severe physical or mental disabilities is completely asinine.
A Temperamental Baker having anxiety isn’t a disability using that to compare yourself to other severely struggling from disabilities isn’t okay but I am not saying anxiety isn’t a problem
Megan Adkins you should reread by comment. I said “for her to compare that (stuttering) to other more severe physical or mental disabilities is completely ASININE.” meaning that speech impediment is a much smaller issue and can be correct. I know cause I actually have a more severe medical illness and yes anxiety is a very important cause that should be treated professionally. But anxiety has always been a smaller problem for me my other medical problems. I am in agreement with you.
A Temperamental Baker apologies I didn’t read all of it I didn’t se the read more button 😂
Megan Adkins no problem at all, I have done the same before.😆
I don’t see what’s the problem. They’ve spoken with the director and agreed to have points taken off. Regardless of your understanding of the situation tho you don’t embarrass a child like that.
She didn't embarrassed the child
Whether in embarrassed her or not it was still not okay and absolutely terrible
It would be one thing to ask the director about having coaches, but I don’t see any problem. She is playing by the rules she gets points taken off.
If the mother was more mature she should’ve spoken with the judges and parents privately. You don’t go and scream while the child is still on stage.
@@msrodrigues5419 awww a psychopath supporting something really bad and wrong. How cool? Stop commenting for attention.
As a disabled person myself, I’m absolutely disgusted that someone would say that, and to a child at that!
same with me I am disabled
This is the perfect example of "Don't judge a book by it's cover." The one lady insisted the other family was cheating when they had everything in place, even knowing that they would lose points. It's sad that she felt like it was her responsibility to "correct" something she didn't even "know" was happening until the middle of the young ladies performance.
Even if Harlie wasn’t special needs, no child deserves to be yelled at while on stage. If I was a kid performing that would’ve completely screwed me up and scarred me. She could’ve discussed her concern with the director. Trailer trash is accurate.
100% accurate. They should have one by one come in with one parent, everyone wait outside (closed doors).
She didn't yelled directed to the child drama queen
she wasnt screamed at
She is going to hell for yelling like that while ANY kid is on stage. Keep it to yourself and send an email dont damage the kid. That is abuse and she should be barred.
Ms Rodrigues Who cares!? Someone is performing, you don’t yell in the middle of their performance. You wouldn’t start screaming during a concert or theatre production.
How dare she yell like that, embarrass that little girl, and have the audacity to look/act smug about it. She has zero class. Yuck
No one asked your opinion. Shut up
Ms Rodrigues no one ask your option about her comment
@Ms Rodrigues well no one ask for YOUR opinion on her comment so stfu
@@msrodrigues5419 shh trailer trash
Ms Rodrigues but for some reason you felt yours was warranted? 🤫 carry on.
I have the feeling that if Harley ever mentioned to her mom she didn't want to do pageants anymore she would be happy to put her in any activity she would want to do. That is how you build self confidence, also I loved how both of her parents were there to cheer her on and tell her how great she did! I just like how their parenting style for both girls is catered for them and its clear to me at least that while they put piper in for her look initially, she fell in love with it and her mom embraced it, if Piper wanted to quit I think her mom would also be happy to put her in whatever she wanted to try next.
thing is she did in the full ep harley throws a fit and doenst wnat to complete and her mom makes her. katie is not a good mom in multiple ep everyone in the comment praising her has no idea how she rlly is from this few min vid
She didn’t wanna do it, she says she doesn’t want to earlier, and the dad says “I already payed the deposit, you know the rule, it means you’re going!”
Everyone talking about how the moms says “it’s for her confidence” but if you watch the full episode Harley tells her mom she don’t wanna compete and her mom says no I’ve already paid thousands of dollars and enrolled you so your doing it and Harley is throwing a fit saying she don’t want to so no her mom isn’t a good mom at all🤷🏻♀️ she’s like everyone else
I don't like these pageants for little kids. The kids are all beautiful without the fancy dressses and over the top make up and hair. It's really just for the parents
Exactly and even the dad said to Harley she’s doing it he don’t want to hear it
"If she's disabled she shouldn't be here"
If you think children are just show ponies you shouldn't have one!
Some lady on another video said she only had kids to out them in pagents
AdriRaindrop one lady put her son in pageants bc she wanted to have a girl
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
that was like the most ableist thing she could have said 😑 so i guess disabled people aren’t allowed to do anything fun that they want to? she made me so mad
Amen to that! A lot of these pageant shows-it’s just the Moms living their lives through their children. It’s very sad, kind of sadistic and cruel in a way.
“if she has a disability then she shouldn’t be competing in pageants” ..... ma’am that is literally discrimination, AGAINST A CHILD?? Edit: my comment seems to be extremely upsetting to some people who have the opposite opinion to me. All I have to say is this: are you crazy? 🤦♀️
That is discrimination, but I personally think that no CHILD should be in pageants altogether. It’s not good for their overall health whatsoever, and pageant kids end up either depressed, spoiled rotten or even both.
@@kimonokat1928 ya I agree
Exactly what I said!
Lil Sket agree
Yeah, I heard the one mother say that if the child has special needs she shouldn't be competing in a normal pageant. people can be so ignorant
"With her Ginger child"....What an upstanding mom going after a kids looks...How classy....
Harlie is so sweet and such a beautiful little girl that smiled listening to this woman's vicious behavior. God bless this angel and her mama and friend!
if you see the full show, Katie (Harlie and pipers mum) is awful, just as bad as Becky, she calls other kids ugly, says hers are the only talented ones, throws a complete tantrum in this pageant and International Fresh Faces pageant when piper doesn’t win
This show needs to be renamed Karens and kids
Reg f I’m going to email TLC this suggestion
HAHAHHAH
Hilarious!
@jade ac no one cares
Finally someone said it
They didn’t ask for special treatment. She said she was willing to have the points taken off
Exactly
They should just have talked about it
They should have all been told the child was special needs a d only doing it to try give her some confidence. I’m adding this bit after getting verbally attacked for what I said, when I said they should all be told I meant the judges as it was obvious that they didn’t all know!! Then at least one of them could have shut the cat caller up!!!
Mom’s that put their children on display like this really are trying to live their life through their children. These babies have makeup on and learn to work crowds- I feel bad for them. Kids just want to have fun and some of these parents need to get them some business instead of pimping out their babies. Come on Mom's- do better! This is just my opinion and I said what I said- case closed.
Agreed 100%....
“Go do your roots” girl I died😭 honestly she deserved it! She’s special needs and embarrassed her on stage! that’s so sad
"if the child is special needs she shouldent be in a normal kids pagent"
if your going to bully a child as an adult you shouldent be at a litte girls pagent.
She should have points taken off for interrupting another girl’s stage
Edit: what I meant was the organisers should’ve at least threatened the mum with points being taken off to make it clear that that kind of behaviour isn’t tolerated.
Right?
Well she is only six she’s really young still
Nah it’s not the little girl’s fault
That trash pot mother looks like n sounds like an animal..i feel sry for her daughter
It was the trash mom. Not the child, I feel so bad for her kid
Bless her little heart- she looked SO proud of herself until Becky shouted at her mum. The poor thing was probably really confused as to why she was shouting
EXACTLY!!!
IKR!!!!
IKRRRR!!!
That woman is so rude
As a mother of a daughter with autism, I completely understand why her parents got pissed with Becky. My daughter is in the 7th grade and in special education with limited verbal skills. Thankfully, she's very outgoing and loves to be on stage while playing in orchestra with her mainstream friends. I would have done the same thing as Katie because you don't mess with a Mama Bear especially when it comes to their special needs child.
You have to be the lowest of the low to pick on a child with special needs 😢
Whether I was aware or unaware of the disability but I was concerned about cheating, I would never yell out while the child was performing. I’d submit an inquiry to the judges.
“Every kid is special” “If she’s special needs, she should be at a special needs pageant and not a regular pageant.” Garbage.
I bet she wouldn't be saying that to Miss Montana Alexis Wineman. First competitor in the miss America pageant to compete with autism and won America's choice so she got to do round 2 of the live show.
NA what she was saying about a special needs kid has nothing to do with that its was seperate. You obvioulsy misread the comment
morgandancer123 *serious question* Did Miss Montana have someone on the sidelines coaching her? Or was she like really good and did it herself on stage? Because although Becky said it in a bad way... I feel she was just saying that the same rules should apply to everyone and Harlie should’ve did her routine without help just like all the other girls.
@@Destiny-mj8ef if she was getting points taken off for being coached then I’m failing to see the issue. The rules did apply to her. If you get coaching while on stage then that’s an automatic deduction. The mom talked to the director about it and was okay with getting points off.
She seriously tried to compare stuttering to special needs...trash.
“my kid stutters” THE KIDS DONT TALK ON STAGE HOW IS STUTTERING GONNA EFFECT HER ON STAGE
Rue Larsen unless you stutter in every sentence
That’s what I said they are not going to be talking so stuttering wouldn’t have any affect on the performance
She’s talking about disabilities, stuttering is a disability so she was saying she shouldn’t use a disability as an excuse
@@svracastic my son has a pronounced stammer. It gets worse in busy environments as well. HOWEVER.. if he was doing a pageant in which he wasn't required to speak, I would never compare him to a child with another disability. He struggles with food, using the toilet, has intense emotional outbursts and is very likely on the autism spectrum (my older son is already diagnosed ASD) all that means is that I would never ever presume any child does not have challenges of their own. So may times I've heard "you wouldn't think it to look at him" about one of my kids. It is merely ignorance that leads people like that trashy cow to behave how they do. NO child needs yelling at, especially on a public platform. She is vile
Some times they sing or talk lol
5:44 why she clapping
, i just made fun of a special needs kid, I'm such a hero
“Are you proud of your self ?”
Are YOU, Becky?! Abhorrent behavior, those kids DESERVE to be there, and they deserve RESPECT. So that they can apply that to life, being respectful and having a great time, no matter WHAT.
Why in the world would you ever scream like that at a special needs little girl when they are on stage that is just so heartless to me
You know it's staged right?
If someone else did that with Becky's daughter all hell would break loose, but she doesn't care that she did it to someone else's child. This show just tells me to never put my kids in a pageant and I'm not even a mother
@@thebullqueen this is... literally all staged and orchestrated by the production crew, lol. all this drama is faked for TV, just like every other TLC show.
@@bt-jz7ki I know, it's sad that parents put their kids through this like let the kids be kids you're only a kid once. But I do agree with what you said
My take? Lol. Oh yeah it's staged. I'm just curious as to what extent. I feel like TLC makes up bullshit and somehow it makes its way to one of the moms. They're probably the most toxic bc they just want to record drama not giving a DAMN about the effect on the kids. It's bullshit to behave like these moms do but to them they're simply standing up for their child. TLC only wants money so they start, I believe the majority of the trouble. No excuse but at least the moms act like dumbasses out of love. Well, most of them.
Katie actually shows that she's a good mum. She's doing it for her child, not her. Becky is there for the competition.
It is a competition that’s what you go there for
Central_NC Chickens well yeah it is, but it’s also here for fun.
ivy yea I agree have fun and compete but don’t be mean
1000th like :3
None of these "parents" are doing it for their kid, don't be so blind.
Harlie you are beautiful and confident and I love that your mom wants to help you develop your sense of confidence through doing pageants! It’s not even about winning for you but rather getting up there and just showing your best confident,lovely and beautiful self! While the others are always thinking “oh my baby is gonna win this!” that’s not what you are there for. Keep being your beautiful self darling girl!!!
And great job mama for wanting to help her develop and strengthen her sense of self confidence! So that possibly when she’s older she’ll be outgoing and happy just as she was in her younger years
hi, im statue currently talking for harile since we're in a discord together. she says thanks for all the kind words!
i'm so glad those parents stood up for their child
harlie wasn’t even competing to win, she was just having fun and building her confidence. that woman is pure evil.
Exactly, it's not even like she was going to be serious competition for the other woman's child.
Even if she was competing to win, it is still so wrong to call someone out in the middle of their performance. At least wait until after it’s over and the child isn’t in the room.
@evil guardian
but she wasn’t competing to win. she was competing for fun and confidence, meaning nobody is missing out or at a disadvantage if there is off-stage coaching for this particular child.
@evil guardian
you’re clearly a child yourself, so i can see why you wouldn’t understand
What woman are you talking about? The one one that said "her special needs kid shouldn't been in the Pageant"?
God this show terrifying
It's What it is😕
Its addicting 🙃
ikr
It really is
Ain’t it😳
I genuinely feel bad for kids who were forced into pageants by their parents!!!
I feel that mother’s rage ten fold. My son is special needs and his confidence is something I take very seriously. This makes my blood boil.
Okay nothing rude to Harlie, but she clearly has special needs, and wasn't going to be winning the pageant. That mother was disgusting to say ANYTHING about that little girl needing extra help or that she shouldn't be in a "regular kids" pageant. Harlie has EVERY right to perform at that pageant regardless of her special needs. That's called discrimination, and WE DON'T DO THAT.
I understand that you weren't trying to be rude but dont say that she wasn't gonna win because she was "obviously special needs"
Holly Stiles exactly. it was obvious that she wasn’t there to win, since Harlie’s mother already agreed to get points taken off. she was there purely to boost her self-confidence and have fun. and besides, even if Harlie wasn’t special needs, no child deserves to be yelled at like that right smack in the middle of performing. if she had a problem Becky should’ve settled it calmly with the director afterwards. Not yell in front of the child and mess her up completely like that.
The lady said that the girls are there to have a good time and build up their confidence not everyone is there to win I think your comment was a little bit tone deaf
Excuse me? She wasn't going to win because she has special needs? Who are you to think that special needs = not achieving anything in life? I have had learning difficulties my whole life and struggled with them - I've had lead roles in theatre, I've had a successful author commend my writing and I'm writing a book over 300 pages in length!
@@theminisimmer I think she was talking about skill wise because her walk wasn't as good as the others which is fine cause she wasn't doing it for the crown but idk
She literally said to her face that “it’s fine she’s getting points off” bro she ain’t cheating
Diamond Dawn it isn’t really cheating because they said they spoke to the judges so and she’s getting points off
Becky you're a piece of work.
Coaching is allowed just if your child is over 5 the points will be deducted and if they want a shot at grand supreme then they can't afford those points deducted.
Because she is autistic she should get special consideration. People do not understand. Even if she were cheating your supposed to say these issues privately with the judge.
She has special consideration because of her disability. Mom says ok to knock off points.
4:24 that face Becky made after interrupting this child is just so yuck. Like she really thought it was appropriate to do that. Isn’t interrupting another child’s performance against the rules?
Piper and Harlie have some damn great parents. They stood up for and defended their kid right away. They protected her from that mean woman’s words and didn’t put up with the treatment and behavior towards their daughter whatsoever. Good on them. Some supportive and loving parents there.
“If she has a disability she shouldn’t be in the pageant.” The Americans with Disabilities act was passed in 1990 and prohibited discrimination of people with disabilities in public schools, jobs and all places/events open to the public. If the pageant were to not let Harley compete it would literally be a CRIME. That woman is so backwoods
That woman is an absolutely disgusting human being. What kind of adult, especially a parent, attacks a little girl like that?
What a HAG !!
How incredibly sad that you treat this precious girl like this?
You are heartless !!
There are pageants for just special needs kids, and other kids can’t compete in their pageants.. so, how is that fair, but not vice versa?!
@@jesmichel There might not be a pageant near her for special needs, and also her sister isn't special needs so it's nice if they're competing together and supporting one another.
@@user-ho7mg9ol7w Yeah, maybe she feels better when her sister is around, I know a few people like that.
Did you see the way she smiled after yelling? So gross. She was proud to drag the kid down.
And then how Harlie’s smile dropped.
Probably one of the only good mother’s I can recall on this show. I wish more of the kids had mother’s like her who were just focused on having fun and building confidence.
never thought i’d see a mom like Katie in any of these, dance moms, toddlers in tiara’s, children’s pageant type shows. but she truly is a good mom. she LETS her kids do this because they think it’s fun and it boosts their confidence to get to dress up and go on stage with a bunch of other pretty girls. she played fair and told the judges before hand that her daughter needs extra help and she 100% understands points will be take. off and doesn’t care. and she stood up for her daughter when NEEDED and did so as respectfully as possible. i hope the other mom felt shame about this every night before she went to bed for a WHILE. if i were her i’d feel bad till this day. imagine yelling at a child while their on stage at all, yet alone a special needs child?? embarrassing is an understatement.
Katie’s daughter Harlie didn’t want to do in fact during this episode she told her parents she didn’t want to compete and they forced her to
“We competed with her before and nobody knew she had special needs” probably bc they don’t want to flaunt it and make her feel different, she wants to compete and win without a sob story and feel normal
EXACTLY I wanted to see if anybody else said this. Like the parents don't need to go around saying "Oh my daughter is special needs did you know that?" "Oh, by the way my daughter is special needs"
exactly and also if they didn't accommodate her then they would be facing a lawsuit because it's against the ADA to say that they need to be in a specialized pageant I mean heck I did a "regular "Padgent and I'm in a wheelchair and by the way people that believe that to be true are the reason so many of us have mental health issues because we're automatically other for something we can't control honestly I think the judges should've removed her if they were already aware of Harley's disability it was unfair to have that conversation in front of her because I can't imagine how that must've felt being her because like I said disabled or not those comments matter
Exactly I actually have a couple mental illnesses and a lot of the time when a classmate or classmates parent finds out I get to deal with speeches about equality and crap. Honestly I don't tell people or mention it because I hate when people make that face when they find out and crap
That’s also extremely ableist bc she’s kinda saying that she didn’t look disabled which is so fucked up bc not all of us are obviously disabled?? Like a lot of people have invisible disabilities, and even some wheelchair users can walk short distances, so you can’t even tel when someone is disabled.
Completely agree. While I in no way support the mom who interrupted the pageant, I hated how the other girl's mom outed her as disabled. You're legally allowed to not disclose a disability and it should be up to the daughter if that's something she wants to share with people at the right time for her, not a line to be hurled and yelled as a defense in front of an audience. Honestly, both of their responses were very disappointing and uncalled for.
Harlie's mom is right. Harlies mom just wanted to help her daughter grow confidence in herself and so that way she can grow up with self love. And the director already knew this. She probably tells every director way before the pageant even happens. Shame on the other mom. She totally could have let her have her moments on stage before saying anything. God I hate Karen's
Yeah! I was kinda weirded out how nobody was talking about how she was so supportive for her child & defensive when that rude ass mom lowered harlie's confidence
I can think of so many better ways of building a child's confidence than parading them like they are at a cattle market and making them feel they don't measure up to some fake 'ideal'!
@@cyflym11 I fully agree! I feel like there are numerous ways to help build confidence but this mother decided that it was a good choice at least for her Daughter to try this out. I dont know the situation of course as to why she decided to try and do a beauty pageant but not my ideal choice
Ikr
If she did that why did she viciously put other children down and send nasty emails? Really. Stop praising this woman. Her daughter is the hero. She deserves ALL the praise.
It was so great to see a girl up there too have fun and feel confident
i love how there is no differince in the before and after prob=ving that she is just BEAUTIFUL
This is horrible. She is special needs and was having fun and she ruined it
I know, she looked so happy on that stage it made my heart melt
Even if she wasn’t that messed up and she should never do that. Zero class at all!
random person she’s not messed up she is just special needs
treble maker They’re saying that what the lady did was messed up, even if the kid hadn’t had special needs. Not saying anything negative about the little girl
“Don’t play it special every kid is special.” Does this woman know what special needs means?
I mean the answer is in the words special needs. Aka a child or person who needs extra help or you guessed it -> SPECIAL NEEDS
@Erin O'Connor
You have what we, over here in the UK, like to call "an old head on young shoulders", meaning having wisdom beyond one's years ...
Unfortunately, it seems the common sense you have is becoming rather uncommon ...
But, and if I may, keep onto that what you have learnt, and you're still learning, and I can see you go very far in life, especially if you're interested in any of the STEM subjects ...
@Erin O'Connor That comment pissed me off. She's a rude b*tch. All you had to do was watch the little girl..you could tell she was shy and unsure and not very confident. Becky didn't need to worry that her daughter might be out shone by Harlie. Well maybe she did need to worry. Sad how these mother's had to argue and fight in front of their kids. What a way to teach your daughter.
Yes, but she doesn’t have the heart to care.
3:06 is that a “good job” I saw? how cute
katie is a caring mother who doesnt stand for anyone messing with her kids, im on her side 100000%
"if she's truly a SPECIAL NEEDS kid, then she probably shouldn't be in a REGULAR kids pageant" I'm sorry..... what?..... say that one more time?...
yeah... :(
Like she has a disease. Like wtf.
I mean it is kinda tru like yes she was wrong for saying that but if a parent is going to be putting it in ppls face and never informing ppl abt her daughters special needs then she rly can’t complain since they said that was the first time that has EVER been mentioned and they have competed against the little girl
She is lucky i was not there because i have dissabiltys and and if i saw her say what she just said i would of confronted her. I have learning dissabiltys and i want to be married and have a baby some day. For you to say if she is truly special needs than she should probably not be at a regular kids pageant. Is like telling a white girl she cant be in the same class room with the black kids. The same goes with telling a black kid cant be in the same class room with the white kids. Im fucking offended what she just said about this little girl. I would of confronted this stupid 🤬
bro she should be damn glad i wasn't there because woman would've been going home with a broken spine as soon as she said that 🤡
How are u gonna tell a special needs child don’t come to a “normal children “ Pagent 6:42
It made me feel sick.. how dare she ever say that😠
She’s disgusting
Saffi Lou frr
I almost screamed when I heard her say that.
I was going to dissect that rant, but the entire thing is just so unbelievably inappropriate and ignorant.
It has nothing to do with rules when giving a kid with a special needs some help on stage it's not breaking the rules it's simply called humanity ❤️
Harlie, you are beautiful, no matter what! Just keep your head held high.
Harlies mother seems like one of the best this show has. She actually CARES about more than the crowns. She's here for a purpose to help her child become a better person!
All of these pageant parents are horrible. How is putting gobs of makeup and false nails, lashes, hair, etc. on these LITTLE GIRLS and making them "compete" to be the prettiest girl going to make them better human beings? It teaches them that they have to be the prettiest or most talented (or the child of the parent who can grease the most palms) to be a "winner". Does more harm than good. How does never winning help Harley build her confidence?? If only her parents had volunteered with her at an animal shelter, soup kitchen, or helped her learn a valuable skill, that would have really helped that sweet girl learn her self worth.
@@GoodmorningStarshine. people have different ways. What if that was something Harley really wanted to do but was too socially awkward? I don't watch the show but I understand the mothers idea with Harley.
@@GoodmorningStarshine. it helps far more than most people realize. When I was little, I loved to dance for fun and whenever I saw performances, I would always want to go onstage but I had horrible stage fright. However, my mom made me go on stage once or twice and obviously I didnt win anything because she was on the side of the stage telling me what move was next, but it helped because after the first few times, I could confidently go on stage in front of any kind of crowd. Now I perform every few months in of full auditoriums, but I couldn't have done that if my mom hadn't made me go onstage
@@rm2915 You should watch some of these episodes... terrible what some of these kids go through and the behavior of some of these parents is deplorable. I think that it's harmful to sexualize and objectify little children. Heavy makeup, fake hair, nails, lashes, tans... what kind of message does that send??
@@parvathynair3862 I was specifically referring to beauty pageants...terrible what some of these kids go through and the behavior of some of these parents is deplorable. I think that it's harmful to sexualize and objectify little children. Heavy makeup, fake hair, nails, lashes, tans... what kind of message does that send?? It doesn't sound like you were referencing beauty pageants when you talked about your own experiences and I'm glad that you had a positive experience. 😊
Harlie was a TROOPER!!! She just carried on and had fun
Her face was heartbreakingly confused. I love her smile. It’s beautiful.
Go Harlie❤💯🎊🎉✨❇🎇🎆🌠☄🌟😄🎀🌻
She sure did..i wld have voted for her..adorable little girl
@@weltonvillegal6258 ¹1ppp
Becky may god forgive you for the stupidity that keeps coming out of your mouth
Bro i feel so bad for every single one of these kids… their parents honestly don’t deserve them. All this will impact this kids for the rest of their lives.
All kids look so much older then what they really are! But they are all so beautiful 🤩
Nothing like bullying a special needs 7 year old child when your an adult. Seems 100% reasonable for an adult hope she feels great about herself!
Says she plays by the rules when she showed a fake birth certificate-
Disabled* special needs is kinda seen as 😬 in the greater disabled community.
She's not really special needs though lol
@@Sarawarawara- the birth certificate was real.
She did not do that. No one bullied the child.
Social anxiety is NOT special needs.
she compared her kid having a speech impediment to little girl who is disabled i-
It’s like not even that bad of a speech impediment, it’s just a stutter.
Basically.. "My kid stutters, so she's considered a special child." -.-
Gintoki Sakata “my kid stutters, so does that mean she goes first? No”...... there, I fixed it
Disabled* not special needs child :/
@@mimikyu__- hey sorry!! i posted this when i didn’t know the proper term:( i’ll edit it rn:)
I feel so badly for Harlie She should not be treated any differently just because she has special needs I know what it's like to be treated differently I had learning problems in school
I get what Becky is saying about Katie daughter about the rules. But I wouldn’t have have yell while the child was on stage that was wrong she could have waited until the end of the Competition to talk to the director . I am not bashing the child being unique and having some help. I am solely writing bout the parents behavior .
“a regular kid pageant” just bc she is a lower functioning child doesn’t mean she isn’t a “normal kid” and “ever kid is special” is no excuse she is special needs nothing to do with ur kids stutter
I mean "lower functioning" is a bit rude to be frank. It suggests she's lower than others. She might excel at a lot of things...just like kids without disabilities she won't excel at everything. Doesn't mean her function is "low".
SlyDoll7 yeah she’s just different functioning not lower
I think a more appropriate term would be that she has more support needs, functioning labels only serve to hinder people- "higher functioning" label means they don't get support, "lower functioning" label means they're viewed as lesser.
SlyDoll7 k they were making a point, I don’t think they ment it in that way there’s no need for you to get mad at that they were just expressing it.
Im sure you didn't mean harm but using the term "lower functioning" in this case is quite rude.
The way she said “don’t call a special needs card, don’t play it special, EVERY kid is special” LMAO this is what y’all sound like saying ALL LIVES MATTER I’m-
LMFAOOO honestly. Like wtf is wrong with people
Exactly!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
YOU KNOW SHES AN ALL LIVES MATTER WOMEN
I’m an ALL LIVES MATTER woman and I’m damn fucking proud of it.
Punk Patriot I don’t think you should be proud of saying that. If you really believe that all lives matter, you should have no problem saying that black lives matter. It’s just like saying all fruit is good and someone saying apples are good. They didn’t contradict your statement, did they? If you think Blue Lives Matter is okay to say even though it doesn’t include other jobs but you think Black Lives Matter is wrong bc it doesn’t include other races then you’re a hypocrite. Black lives matter never said other lives didn’t matter. You saying all lives matter just takes attention away from the movement and shows that you’re racist. Period. End of discussion.
I don’t think this is helping them be confident. If anything it’s telling them you have to be all dolled up to have confidence. Which is crazyyy!!
No way Becky said “every kid is special” omg control urself
Props to Katie tho. She’s allowing her to build her confidence and doesn’t stuff her head with “you have to win”. She’s letting her have fun.
Yeah! I loved how the mom supported so much her child and acually cared how their daughter is feeling, thats something you dint see a lot in these shpws
I loved it. Even though there is nothing wrong with competitions at that age, but it's nice that they do that for their daughter.
Nah. She puts down other children. And does nasty things behind peoples back. Shes no better. Harlie is the amazing one. Her mum is just spiteful.
This is what pageants should be. Parents letting their kids have fun and not pushing them to win.
exactly thats why i think they should be a certain age like at least 8 cause before then its just there parents trying to live there dreams through there child
She really pulled the “all kids are special” card...probably says “all lives matter” too
right though??
🤣🤣🤣 great point omg
All lives do matter.
Cosmic. no lives matter until black lives matter.
Casey Chaffin all lives *DO* matter!
Aweee now that I’m grown and I watch this it hurts my heart.
Someone needs to tell Becky that disabled people are allowed to exist in the same spaces as her. What an absolutely horrid woman.
"You Cheated!" Bruh the judges were right there, she wasn't trying to hide anything. She wasn't sneaky about it, she was up in front, showing her baby how to sparkle and shine!
Exactly!!!
"And her GINGER child?!" I seriously wanna throw my tablet. Even if she did what they claim HOW DARE YOU MOCK A CHILD!!!!!!! SERIOUSLY that makes my blood boil.
She’ll be ight,
Yeah dude my god why did they create toddlers and tiaras in general?! They just care about looks not mental health or special needs. They just want it for the money. There’s one episode when one of them was in tears and what did the mother do? SHE SHUTS THE FRICKING DOOR AND DOESN’T GIVE A DAMN!!!!!!! Im just glad this show is over after all of the controversies.
Adults shouldn't drag children into their feuds
Cheek to say her ginger child she needs to look at her own hair
I think she ment her hair
I hate when adults drag kids into their feuds with each other
Nobody asked for special treatment for the girl, they even spoke to the director ahead of time to give a special needs child an awesome opportunity to have fun and do what her sister does. “She shouldnt be at a pageant for regular kids” how can you be that ignorant, you can see that shes struggling on stage are you really that threatened by a specail needs child that you have to act like that? Its embarrassing to see adults act that way
Exactly. Harlie just wanted to be like her big sister and have fun. But then you have this Karen yelling at her and saying she shouldn't be there? She has just as much right to be there as the other girls.
If they spoke to the director, why didn't the staff know anything about it? They said that's the first they had heard about it. You're forgetting that the woman was made to go home and get a birth certificate because some anonymous person ( likely Harlee's mom ) said her daughter was 10. I'd be pissed too. Then she changed it from Special Needs to socially awkward. I'm not condoning the yelling out, but I don't believe the special needs thing either.
@@Wayniesgirl Maybe she shouldn't ridicule a child like that? The CHILD probability felt like shit in that moment. If she had a problem she could probably talk about it after that, but she didn't. She had to shout in the middle of a little girl's presentation like an animal, she is fucking crazy.
I feel sorry for the kids, because the parents are putting make up on them. Make up going to mess up the kids beautiful faces when they grow up.
@@Wayniesgirl what about the social anxiety which is something that small children like her face but she just wanted to feel normal and do things like her sister but your only mentioning the social awkwardness
just because she has special needs doesn’t mean she’s not “normal” omg the ignorance 😐
This girl has the right to be a little kid and there should be no complaints about it especially if it helps her confidence. Ableism is so disappointing
Then following the rules should be normal. But I guess when you're white. Different strokes for different folks
@@Arayaplayz The mother said she had already talked to the judges about it, and her daughter would get points taken off for the offstage coaching. If that woman was so angry, she should’ve asked quietly on the side - not yelling during the little girl’s performance.
@@Arayaplayz it wasn’t even considered cheating to coach in the competition, you would just have a couple points knocked off for needing help and if you’re somebody trying to get ultimate grand supreme those few points matter. Nobody ever was even breaking any rules, the mum just chose to give her disabled kid a little extra help that the judges allowed her to with a couple points knocked off
her screaming her child is special needs right in front of her and everyone over and over again is really sad just bc a kid has anxiety and not good at socializing doesn’t mean they are special needs smh. the poor kid didn’t even want to compete and katie forced her all these ppl praising her have no idea
that’s so fcking rude. the fact that she shouted and the kid stopped looking worried. she’s doing it to build confidence and it’s rude ☹️
"We play by the rules" bro she litteraly gave a fake birth certificate
I was thinking that too. That kid was NOT 6
Its was proven that the kid was 6.. but look big
she is definitely not 6 no
@@personontheinternet3867 some kids look older. My daughter is turning 2 on November 11th she's literally wearing 4T/5T. I'm 6 feet tall. Her daddy is 6'3. Don't put kids in a box they have to be in. All kids comes in different shapes and sizes. And her birth certificate was proven verified. Give it up. The real issue here is that dirt bag messing with a special needs child on stage and then all these mother's swearing and fighting and carrying on INFRONT of all these children. Like it's sad to me when the children are acting more accordingly than the adults.
My 11 year old gets told all the time she is 15/16
“My kid stutters, so does that mean she goes first? No, we go by the rules.” Okay but your daughter isn’t speaking on stage sis. This little girl has social anxiety and is required to have a routine in which she has to perform it on stage all by herself, while being stared at by an entire room filled with strangers. There’s a difference. I wish people took Anxiety Disorders more seriously these days. It is so debilitating and yet everyone acts like it’s so manageable. It’s really not, at all. I wish it was considered a special need because it is just as impactful as something like Autism.
Somewhat off topic but Professors and teachers ESPECIALLY need to realize this.
As someone with social anxiety i def agree
Ppl dont understand how bad anxiety is. They think its just nervousness. Ive had anxiety for a long time already and its literally eating me up inside
👏👏👏 Exactly! I had extreme social anxiety when I was a child. It is the worst. It ruined my whole life!
Exactly! I had Selective Mutism as a child and actually lots of people thought I had autism. Because it presented very similar.
🥺🥺🥺 this hurts my heart so bad…..
I extremely hate it when she said that special needs need to have their own pageant and shouldn't be allowed to compete with other "normal people" in pageants cuz that's just straight stupid, it's basically discrimination and plus being special need doesn't mean she has to be limited to only what other people confine you as
She’s the type of person who gets angry when people with learning disabilities or mental health issues have accommodations in school so they don’t fail
Your kinda wrong in high school they accidentally put me in a regular class but they knew I had A plus but they didn’t care they pulled me back to a special ed and needs class but I proved to them I can be fine but they don’t care
"WhY dO ThEy GeT tHeRaPy anD PriVaTe LeSSoNs OmG" i hate people like that
hey do I get the mega prize if I have mental health issues AND a learning disability :P just a question
@@alicialoera5481 I disagree in my experience small accommodations have gone a huge way and without my medication, in elementary school, I would take hours and hours longer for simple homework and assignments when I was trying my best so my experience before I got help WREAKED my self-esteem I can complete work without accommodations and medication but not without constant painful headaches, no free time, and multiple mental breakdowns and panic attacks every day... so yeah accommodations are really important for a lot of people with learning disabilities or mental health issues
@@hannahsmith7693 I do have mental problems and you know some of us aren’t lucky to have nice and good teacher all they did it screw us over
i love Harley’s parents.. they’re in the pageants for HARLEY and HER self confidence and don’t care about her title.
Same!
YES.
I agree and to be honest if i had a daughter and i saw becky say this about Harly i would of personaly gone up to her and confront her myself. I have dissabiltys im a little slow but im high functioning. I want to have my own family 1 day and have children. If becky is saying she should not be at a regular kids pageant are you gonna tell me that i should not have children because im a little slow but im high functioning? 🤷🏻♀️ im offended by her i really am 🤬
Right, put your special needs kid in a contest that is based entirely off their looks, which causes your parents to literally bicker with other psychopathic parents about how you're disabled, what a great way to build their self confidence
@@brianna-reneejeanjordan9160 if you see the full show, Katie is awful, just as bad as Becky, she calls other kids ugly, says hers are the only talented ones, throws a complete tantrum in this pageant and International Fresh Faces pageant when piper doesn’t win
Nobody is better than anyone else we are born into this world to try to grow and do our best this little girl did her best and the parents should be proud of her okay she has a disability so what she did brilliant ☺️☺️ love that for trying
IT'S VERY SURPRISING THESE YOUNG LADIES CAN WALK ON THE STAGE AND WORK THEIR MOVES THIS HELPS TO BUILD THEIR CONFIDENCE UP SO IT CARRIES THROUGHOUT LIFE
6:49 "Every kid is special" this really has all lives matter energy
Rightt 💯 exactly what I was thinking
Exactly! 👏🏽 So disgusting people would treat a child like that.
This really be how schools treat kids also ngl as a child that was left behind (ADHD type combined) I can attest
Foreal. I thought she same thing. All I could think was....Karen alert. Karen alert
So if she didn’t know she was special need why would she even yell at a poor child
Poor Harlie. She’s a sweet girl. Still smiling and still preforming even after an interruption from an selfish adult.
You can see her falter a little when that bitch yelled, though.
Still kudos to Harlie for keeping at it, she's such a brilliant little girl
The pos was so pleased with herself too!
Fr! She’s so beautiful and she looked so cute up there!!
I was so mad like who even cares if they coach there like 5 nobody is going to remember a whole routine
I can only imagine how confused and scared the girls were that both their parents were fighting, threatening and calling each other names. Very traumatic, for all those little girls.
the way becky said "if shes truly a special needs kid, she probably shouldnt be at a REGULAR kids pageant." wtf
These poor kids. I can’t understand why any of this is legal. For real.
I was just thinking the same
Right? Some of this is bordering on child abuse. A lot of these women are living vicariously through their kids. Kaylee looked like a complete and total robot on stage with her fake pasted on smile and expressionless eyes. She is anything but “a natural“.
I bet she would look a lot happier wearing a pair of jeans and splashing around in a mud puddle and being a kid.
I'm hoping the kids be saved from this, Those parents do this for my money and prize crowns
Omg! I did pageants my entire life and it was sooo much fun! Sure, there was drama but it was a blast! I still have all my tiaras too lol 💁
@Allison Hunter Yes! Scholarship pageants are the absolute best! And its also never as dramtic as this show looks! Never once did i see a "fight" like this break out.
A “regular kids pageant” that’s so rude. Every kid is normal!
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She wasn’t thinking. I guarantee you that she feels guilty, especially now that this is on TH-cam. People say things they don’t mean when they’re in a competition, but I think saying that around the kid is disrespectful, and can damage her self-love. This show probably won’t let her redeem herself, and she’ll be known for this scene.
As a person with autism if I was told to not join a normal pageant cause I was special needs that would absolutely have crushed me
Its fucked up how people can say such a thing.
@@Limb00. i get why you'd feel that way but please don't take these people seriously, if someone says something that implies you're not normal than they don't deserve your time. having autism doesn't make you abnormal it just makes you different from most people, which isn't even inherently bad
That what she said Insults everything about a special needs child, it’s insulted me to because I have autism and I wouldn’t be there for the comp I’d be there for fun. I’d be crying if that ever happened to me
The fact that she said she’ll never treat a child like that even though she was just trash talk in the other one for no reason
I love how these adults talk to and about one another in front of these small children. Also the fact that this whole entire thing is repulsive.
Those poor little girls. Trapped in their moms insecurities.
Ignacio Guarachi a lot of moms think it’s cute. It’s a competition. Why should it be illegal just because it creeps you out.
@@Bradmhj Right... good luck with that. We care about the kids though unlike you.
@@Bradmhj So...you only care about the mom’s feelings? Not the child’s?
Some kids actually like pageants but others don’t
NAILED IT!
It's disturbing seeing a grown woman show so much anger toward a child and even more disturbing how satisfied she was at her actions. All these people creep me out.
I agree she’s horrible
She honestly looked like she was wanting a fight the way she was constantly smirking
What did i just watch! You’ve got grown women carrying on like toddlers. 6yo looking like grown women’s faces have been photoshopped on their bodies. Special needs kids who no one knew were special needs. One of them getting singled out for paperwork no one else was asked for, after being ‘informed about’. I don’t think that woman was shouting at the kid, she was shouting at the parent. Still not appropriate though. But the pièce de résistance was that woman at 7:30 flicking the little girls hair and telling her ‘ you’re learning at a very young age…’ whatever it was. At this point i’ve lost track of which kid belongs to which delightful mother, but what that woman was ‘learning’ that little girl was how the passive aggressive mean girls are going to treat her and older women can be extremely inappropriate to little girls. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from everybody.
She, as an adult, should know better. The way she talked about that child was so rude and difficult to watch. That's so immature and innapropriate
I love how the mom didn’t do this to win like the other moms but to build her self confidence, and to love herself when she grows up ❤︎
I see your point but maybe a competition based on looks is not the best confidence booster. Unless she asked to be in it like her sister but then I personally would not put my kids in pageants. I am in the UK and I have never actually heard of any here but then I am not looking so they could be happening.
@@victoriasp41 they have Mini miss UK and others, but UK pageants are very different. They're more like natural pageants, so they're judging the child on personality rather than looks.
you do realize that this mom has two daughters in pageants right? im betting all the winning falls on the other daughters shoulders. the thought of making their moms happy is what drives these girls.
I think she says that to make herself look better especially after being the one bashing Becky for having her of age kid in the “wrong group” to try and win
Exactly, if that’s what SHE loves to do and it makes her feel confident...go for it! I love that they just wanted her to go out there, and they weren’t worried about her winning ❤️ it’s all about the experience, not the crown 🥰