Very inspiring Emma. I was a bishop when the changes began and watched the process unfold. In a way I went through a big transition myself as most of us have, realizing Jesus Christ is the head of the church and what do we know about gender issues. For sure the Savior does know and you know. I for one, am not going to try to out-judge the Lord. I was able to counsel with gay ward members, male and female and I could feel the Savior's love for them like any other member. I have gay grandchildren and I'm not going to be the fool who wouldn't love and support them in whatever they want to do in their lives. What part of free agency don't people get. My testimony is the key, having got me through meth and alcohol addiction and all that goes with that.
Do you wish the Proclamation on the Family were amended or edited some? I don't. Your comment seems to say that perhaps the authors don't or didn't understand "gender".
I appreciate this interview with Emma, as it shows that, even though I may have my own opinions on certain things, that doesn't take away from our shared faith in Christ, and in his power to touch and heal each one of us individually. Thank you for sharing your story!
I was very touched by Emma’s story. Against all odds she knows what church this is…she does because she listens to the Spirit. When at the end she said “I know the church is true” I burst into tears, because myself as a convert faced opposition when I didn’t know a lot, I just knew it was true. She puts herself out there, vulnerable and humble… really an example to us all. ❣️
Love this story! Thank you for sharing, Emma. And, thank you, Ashley for doing this story. What a great testimony. The Savior loves and wants us all in His fold!
Thank you Emma for sharing your story. I loved every time you talked about your good feelings attending seminary, church and reading scriptures, etc. That by itself is a powerful testimony. I also love that you explored other religions and brought those experiences with you back to the church. It’s so good to have other perspectives and be able to share those at times. I am so glad to hear that you felt welcomed and loved in church. I hope you can help others in the LGBTQ community feel more welcome as well. We all need to feel God’s love and the peace of the spirit in this chaotic world.
This was so good! Thank you Emma for your courage and thoughtfulness! You are amazing! You are such a good person. I can see why so many people have cared about you throughout your life.
Thanks Emma! Sorry you have had a hard time feeling loved..you have a strong desire to belong to the chruch of Jesus Christ of latterday saints.and God knows who we are! Even if we don't..😊
43:45 This i can totally relate to right here. I'm also male to female, transitioning, I married my Wife who went on a mission, and am still married to her, but i worry if i'm slowing HER down, (her spirit), I wonder if I'm going to be STUCK as a male for all eternity. I recently stopped being angry at God, I pray a lot, i even try to respect the LDS church more. So many things i can relate to. I got rid of my patriarchal blessing in a similar manner (when i was still extremely angry at God years ago). As for Eternity, i am truly afraid to ask what i will have to be, or if i go to heaven, or a lot of things i dont even want to ask anymore. Does God love me? More than I've felt love from ANYONE, I really know he loves me. (Even as i transition) But what will i become LATER? Where will I go after all is said and done? I keep praying because praying is beautiful. A true true gift that goes way beyond. Yes, God Is Love. I dont feel i NEED to ask questions. In fact, when i start asking questions, or worrying about what the future has, it harder and harder to focus on God's love I feel from my prayers at THE PRESENT MOMENT.
What is it about "womanhood" that you want? Is it clothing, hair, and certain social behaviors? What is actually biological about it? Do you think there are as many individuals who were born with a biological gender and who are meant to be a different gender in eternity? Do you think there are as many--if any--human beings to whom God gave male reproductive organs but "should be" women, that is human beings born with female reproductive organs and mammary glands with the potential to feed a baby they carried for nine months? I wish you many, many blessings and to find enlightenment within the Gospel of Christ.
@@Laurentdu59 Believe me, i've mulled over all this for years and years. I can't get pregnant in this life, i can't feed a baby, I do wear MOSTLY man clothes, the best way i can describe it (for me) is i look in the mirror, and SOMETHING doesn't fit. Something isn't adding up in shape and form. I've thought and pondered the eternal purpose of being a man, a mans role, and i am no leader, i don't want to lead others. I can TEACH others, but i have no need to teach about anything transgender, because frankly its MY battle. I don't even PROMOTE wanting to be the other sex (the one i don't SEE in the mirror). In my statements i can only speak from what i feel. And what i still feel after years and years of pondering, is i feel STUCK in my biological gender, and to feel UNSTUCK, i would literally have to have my mind rewritten, and it would not even TRULY be ME anymore. In fact, i would rather suffer and try to be the me i can't yet totally see, than be CONTENT in some role or state of being that doesn't make sense. NOW the kicker: the power of prayer, the things i've felt, i even feel the suffering (of pushing for i want) swept away, while there is also no pressure or fear (that I've felt, at least) that he needs me to STOP trying to be a woman (or stop transitioning). God is truly a mystery and also (i believe) is not bound by what us humans cant see or don't understand. I also (believe) that with God anything is possible for those who truly love HIM and put him, and his kingdom before all other things. Am I perfect in my faith to God? NOPE, but prayer is still TOTAL AWESOME! And I can only TRY to keep it as simple for myself and especially simple and fair for all around me.
@@Laurentdu59 Also I copy paste your question for another in here (to not get in the way that person will answer), but in MY life, with The Proclamation, (my personal attitude) is: I don't want to get in the way or frustrate Gods plans. I think in its TOXIC context, the "indoctrination" that may come from the LGBTQ+ beliefs or promoting the LGBTQ+ way, would be to FRUSTRATE, or get in the way of procreation, or family ETC. IMO to ask for people to question their biological gender is asking for trouble. I don't even push my "she" pronouns on anyone. It ain't no game. I know that.
Get on your knees and plead for Jesus to cast these spirits out. Call the elders and have hands laid on you again and again and again until those demons obey. This is possession. Plain and simple.
Thank you, Emma, for sharing your feelings. You were so honest and didn't make excuses for some of your choices. You owned them, just like you own your gender and your testimony. I'm so glad you have finally found happiness...real happiness. Keep on the covenant path! ❤
I appreciate this so much! My daughter married a man who came out as transgender two years into her marriage. They are still together and live with us and their little boy. They are not in the church. We are strong in the church. It’s been graduate level learnings for us. I am glad to learn from others. Thanks!
Thank you, Emma. I know Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to receive a fullness of joy. I'm so happy you've found a place in your ward and that you are being accepted there and that you are participating in the gospel.
To follow God and know truth, we have to surrender to the Holy Ghost, who knows and sees all. Emma, you are such a beautiful example of living this principle! I am happy that you have found peace and happiness through the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ 💛 Thank you for sharing your testimony and story.
Emma, Thank you for your willingness to share your story. I wish we knew all the why’s of this life. Your relationship with your Father in Heaven is what is important. It is unfortunate He has only his flawed children to direct His work on the earth. Fortunately, He has promised that someday we will know the meaning of all things. I pray we all are blessed with charity and understanding, that we may be able to help and comfort those around us. I also pray we will be blessed with the strength to follow His teachings and deal with the flawed individuals we encounter. John Bytheway quoted an unknown author: “ When you get tho Heaven, you will likely view many folks who’s presence there will be a shock to you. But keep it very quiet. Do not even stare. Likely there’ll be many folks surprised to see you there.” :-)
Thank you Emma. Your testimony of the gospel and your analytical ability to understand Joseph Smith and his trials as well as your own cross to bear was beautiful. Like many commenters say, " We love this channel."
Nothing much to understand. Just a fantasy like any other for individuals who think they can and need to escape reality. Like being a pirate or a cowboy every October 31.
I'm a trans man and I just decided I wanted to get baptized today. I have not disclosed being trans to the sister missionaries or my wards bishop. Only my girlfriend and her parents know, and they are all members of the church and supportive of our relationship. I've read the CES letter and I still have a testimony. The only thing that still bothers me about the church is the authorities lying and being corrupt. Denying and not taking accountability of the history of racism and kind of just sweeping it under the rug, as well as modern continuation of sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. Idk who I'm going to disclose my trans status to but I have a testimony, I have been feeling the spirit and feeling God and I know he loves me as his son and wants me to find faith. So it's gonna be an interesting journey. Good to know its possible.
The great, large, and spacious building is so large and spacious and enticing that many people on the outside, that cling to the Iron Rod, are afraid to speak against transgenderism. And when I speak about the Iron Rod, I am not only speaking about members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am speaking about a testimony of certain judeo-christian values that are found in other denominations and religions. We who are uncomfortable "celebrating" transitions may now be considered the bad guys by some mobs. I have compassion for the children of God, but I know that God did love Robert and still loves His child. We go from gender expression (which can be highly subjective and cultural) to identity, to altering biology by surgical and hormonal "reconstructions" (only possible through destruction of something God created). What is happening in some schools and clinics is wrong. My voice is needed too, or there is no diversity of opinion. All the little affirming ❤s are well-intentioned, but I prefer to give a ❤ to your beautiful and eternal soul, not to an idea I do not accept.
You are NOT doing delusional people any good by reinforcing their delusions and their distancing themselves from reality. Maybe they need a bit of "tough love" to help them back to reality. This "Emma" admits that he has always been very unhappy in his bizarre lifestyle.
He talks like he is so far lost in the woke "culture" that he can talk about everything only in that language. "Gender assignment" and bizarre things like that.
The church has nothing to say about members still living as something other than what they were created to be?? Do they ordain such persons to the priesthood?? Are you, or will you marry again? With a man, or with a woman?
Very inspiring Emma. I was a bishop when the changes began and watched the process unfold. In a way I went through a big transition myself as most of us have, realizing Jesus Christ is the head of the church and what do we know about gender issues. For sure the Savior does know and you know. I for one, am not going to try to out-judge the Lord. I was able to counsel with gay ward members, male and female and I could feel the Savior's love for them like any other member. I have gay grandchildren and I'm not going to be the fool who wouldn't love and support them in whatever they want to do in their lives. What part of free agency don't people get. My testimony is the key, having got me through meth and alcohol addiction and all that goes with that.
Do you wish the Proclamation on the Family were amended or edited some? I don't. Your comment seems to say that perhaps the authors don't or didn't understand "gender".
When what changes began ??
"Free agency" does not mean you can escape the consequences of your actions.
@@Laurentdu59gender is not the point. Not judging like Jesus commanded us to do is the point. Of course the proclamation is true
@@Laurentdu59and you are insinuating what his comment “seems to say”
I appreciate this interview with Emma, as it shows that, even though I may have my own opinions on certain things, that doesn't take away from our shared faith in Christ, and in his power to touch and heal each one of us individually. Thank you for sharing your story!
I was very touched by Emma’s story. Against all odds she knows what church this is…she does because she listens to the Spirit. When at the end she said “I know the church is true” I burst into tears, because myself as a convert faced opposition when I didn’t know a lot, I just knew it was true. She puts herself out there, vulnerable and humble… really an example to us all. ❣️
Love this story! Thank you for sharing, Emma. And, thank you, Ashley for doing this story.
What a great testimony. The Savior loves and wants us all in His fold!
Thank you Emma for sharing your story. I loved every time you talked about your good feelings attending seminary, church and reading scriptures, etc. That by itself is a powerful testimony. I also love that you explored other religions and brought those experiences with you back to the church. It’s so good to have other perspectives and be able to share those at times. I am so glad to hear that you felt welcomed and loved in church. I hope you can help others in the LGBTQ community feel more welcome as well. We all need to feel God’s love and the peace of the spirit in this chaotic world.
This was so good! Thank you Emma for your courage and thoughtfulness! You are amazing! You are such a good person. I can see why so many people have cared about you throughout your life.
Thanks Emma! Sorry you have had a hard time feeling loved..you have a strong desire to belong to the chruch of Jesus Christ of latterday saints.and God knows who we are! Even if we don't..😊
Love this channel!
43:45 This i can totally relate to right here. I'm also male to female, transitioning, I married my Wife who went on a mission, and am still married to her, but i worry if i'm slowing HER down, (her spirit), I wonder if I'm going to be STUCK as a male for all eternity. I recently stopped being angry at God, I pray a lot, i even try to respect the LDS church more. So many things i can relate to. I got rid of my patriarchal blessing in a similar manner (when i was still extremely angry at God years ago). As for Eternity, i am truly afraid to ask what i will have to be, or if i go to heaven, or a lot of things i dont even want to ask anymore. Does God love me? More than I've felt love from ANYONE, I really know he loves me. (Even as i transition) But what will i become LATER? Where will I go after all is said and done? I keep praying because praying is beautiful. A true true gift that goes way beyond. Yes, God Is Love. I dont feel i NEED to ask questions. In fact, when i start asking questions, or worrying about what the future has, it harder and harder to focus on God's love I feel from my prayers at THE PRESENT MOMENT.
What is it about "womanhood" that you want? Is it clothing, hair, and certain social behaviors? What is actually biological about it? Do you think there are as many individuals who were born with a biological gender and who are meant to be a different gender in eternity? Do you think there are as many--if any--human beings to whom God gave male reproductive organs but "should be" women, that is human beings born with female reproductive organs and mammary glands with the potential to feed a baby they carried for nine months? I wish you many, many blessings and to find enlightenment within the Gospel of Christ.
@@Laurentdu59 Believe me, i've mulled over all this for years and years. I can't get pregnant in this life, i can't feed a baby, I do wear MOSTLY man clothes, the best way i can describe it (for me) is i look in the mirror, and SOMETHING doesn't fit. Something isn't adding up in shape and form. I've thought and pondered the eternal purpose of being a man, a mans role, and i am no leader, i don't want to lead others. I can TEACH others, but i have no need to teach about anything transgender, because frankly its MY battle. I don't even PROMOTE wanting to be the other sex (the one i don't SEE in the mirror). In my statements i can only speak from what i feel. And what i still feel after years and years of pondering, is i feel STUCK in my biological gender, and to feel UNSTUCK, i would literally have to have my mind rewritten, and it would not even TRULY be ME anymore. In fact, i would rather suffer and try to be the me i can't yet totally see, than be CONTENT in some role or state of being that doesn't make sense. NOW the kicker: the power of prayer, the things i've felt, i even feel the suffering (of pushing for i want) swept away, while there is also no pressure or fear (that I've felt, at least) that he needs me to STOP trying to be a woman (or stop transitioning). God is truly a mystery and also (i believe) is not bound by what us humans cant see or don't understand. I also (believe) that with God anything is possible for those who truly love HIM and put him, and his kingdom before all other things. Am I perfect in my faith to God? NOPE, but prayer is still TOTAL AWESOME! And I can only TRY to keep it as simple for myself and especially simple and fair for all around me.
@@Laurentdu59 Also I copy paste your question for another in here (to not get in the way that person will answer), but in MY life, with The Proclamation, (my personal attitude) is: I don't want to get in the way or frustrate Gods plans. I think in its TOXIC context, the "indoctrination" that may come from the LGBTQ+ beliefs or promoting the LGBTQ+ way, would be to FRUSTRATE, or get in the way of procreation, or family ETC. IMO to ask for people to question their biological gender is asking for trouble. I don't even push my "she" pronouns on anyone. It ain't no game. I know that.
Get on your knees and plead for Jesus to cast these spirits out. Call the elders and have hands laid on you again and again and again until those demons obey. This is possession. Plain and simple.
@@anthonyrippa686 It is infinitely more loving to tell someone to repent than to enable sinful or unproductive behavior. Well done.
Emma, you are so precious, special and loved! ❤
Thank you, Emma, for sharing your feelings. You were so honest and didn't make excuses for some of your choices. You owned them, just like you own your gender and your testimony. I'm so glad you have finally found happiness...real happiness. Keep on the covenant path! ❤
I appreciate this so much! My daughter married a man who came out as transgender two years into her marriage. They are still together and live with us and their little boy. They are not in the church. We are strong in the church. It’s been graduate level learnings for us. I am glad to learn from others. Thanks!
Wow, that must be so hard. Hang in there!
Does that make your daughter and her "husband" lesbians??
Thank you, Emma. I know Heavenly Father loves you and wants you to receive a fullness of joy. I'm so happy you've found a place in your ward and that you are being accepted there and that you are participating in the gospel.
Thank you for your story Emma. Your loved and accepted with me. I’m extremely proud of you for being true to yourself. God bless you.
Thank you for your courage Emma, to share your story. Welcome aboard the Ship Zion (LDS Church). 👍❤️❤️🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
To follow God and know truth, we have to surrender to the Holy Ghost, who knows and sees all. Emma, you are such a beautiful example of living this principle! I am happy that you have found peace and happiness through the restored Gospel of Jesus Christ 💛 Thank you for sharing your testimony and story.
I admire your courage. The church needs to learn from people like you how to be welcoming, and accepting of anyone who is willing to come to Christ.
Obviously the church already accepts and welcomes everyone. So you don't need to tell the church what you think they need to learn, homie.
Thank you, Emma. You’ve persevered through so much. A very powerful testimony indeed 😎♥️
Thanks, Emma!
Emma, Thank you for your willingness to share your story. I wish we knew all the why’s of this life. Your relationship with your Father in Heaven is what is important. It is unfortunate He has only his flawed children to direct His work on the earth. Fortunately, He has promised that someday we will know the meaning of all things. I pray we all are blessed with charity and understanding, that we may be able to help and comfort those around us. I also pray we will be blessed with the strength to follow His teachings and deal with the flawed individuals we encounter. John Bytheway quoted an unknown author: “ When you get tho Heaven, you will likely view many folks who’s presence there will be a shock to you. But keep it very quiet. Do not even stare. Likely there’ll be many folks surprised to see you there.” :-)
Thank you Emma. Your testimony of the gospel and your analytical ability to understand Joseph Smith and his trials as well as your own cross to bear was beautiful. Like many commenters say, " We love this channel."
Emma, you are loved and we welcome you to join us as we all struggle together and unitedly love and worship our Savior together!
Thank you Emma.
Thank you Emma for sharing your story. This is a topic that I don’t totally understand but I’m willing to listen. ❤
Nothing much to understand. Just a fantasy like any other for individuals who think they can and need to escape reality. Like being a pirate or a cowboy every October 31.
SIS. Emma, have an amazing testimony, i LOVE HER testimony. Please, SIS'S keep up the Podcast, all Mankind need your Podcast.
I'm a trans man and I just decided I wanted to get baptized today. I have not disclosed being trans to the sister missionaries or my wards bishop. Only my girlfriend and her parents know, and they are all members of the church and supportive of our relationship. I've read the CES letter and I still have a testimony. The only thing that still bothers me about the church is the authorities lying and being corrupt. Denying and not taking accountability of the history of racism and kind of just sweeping it under the rug, as well as modern continuation of sexism, homophobia, and transphobia. Idk who I'm going to disclose my trans status to but I have a testimony, I have been feeling the spirit and feeling God and I know he loves me as his son and wants me to find faith. So it's gonna be an interesting journey. Good to know its possible.
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The great, large, and spacious building is so large and spacious and enticing that many people on the outside, that cling to the Iron Rod, are afraid to speak against transgenderism. And when I speak about the Iron Rod, I am not only speaking about members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am speaking about a testimony of certain judeo-christian values that are found in other denominations and religions. We who are uncomfortable "celebrating" transitions may now be considered the bad guys by some mobs. I have compassion for the children of God, but I know that God did love Robert and still loves His child. We go from gender expression (which can be highly subjective and cultural) to identity, to altering biology by surgical and hormonal "reconstructions" (only possible through destruction of something God created). What is happening in some schools and clinics is wrong. My voice is needed too, or there is no diversity of opinion. All the little affirming ❤s are well-intentioned, but I prefer to give a ❤ to your beautiful and eternal soul, not to an idea I do not accept.
You are NOT doing delusional people any good by reinforcing their delusions and their distancing themselves from reality. Maybe they need a bit of "tough love" to help them back to reality. This "Emma" admits that he has always been very unhappy in his bizarre lifestyle.
He talks like he is so far lost in the woke "culture" that he can talk about everything only in that language. "Gender assignment" and bizarre things like that.
The church has nothing to say about members still living as something other than what they were created to be?? Do they ordain such persons to the priesthood?? Are you, or will you marry again? With a man, or with a woman?