Great job! One of your best videos yet! I appreciate you pushing the limits of your vehicle to actually see it’s full potential. As to the skid plates, that’s what they’re there for. good for you not being scared to use them.
I'm so grateful there are people like you who actually test the limits of their fully-independent suspension unibody vehicles and their underbody protection. This video only solidified my choice to be subscribed!
Kevin has the Right Jeep setup…if HE can’t make it, then it can’t be made. The only negative is it’s a 4 door, the longer wheel base makes it a little bit easier to hang, but he had the right setup.
Best intro to Poughkeepsie Gulch and the Wall - ever!!!! We were just there last week and that trail was awesome, the entire trail from bottom to top is a must do trail.
Did this trail a little less than a week ago, out of 10 jeeps, 5 side by sides, 1 jeep 392, and 2 side by sides made it up. One side by side flipped and the rest of us were winched up. We've done this trail in the past and my god was it wet and slick this year. Nothing but rain there this time of year!
GS and Wrangler can't be compared together because each one was designed for different purpose. GS is an Onroad/Offroad vehicle with comfort, luxury and excellence Offroad performance. Wrangler is an Offroad vehicle with extraordinary performance but not comfortable, not luxurious and not stable at high speed. It is nice how you push the limits of this rig.
Thanks for the head up that you can bypass the wall. I think I might be able to some of those other obstacles and would hate to miss out on the whole trial because of it.
Great stuff mate, I just bought a new Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk and it's great to see you using it the way it was designed. I don't think mine will get that sort of treatment though as I've got a modified dual cab ute for that. The GC will be towing my caravan however. Awesome from Australia
Great intro! As for the rest...all I can say is WOW! And I said this one word throughout this awesome adventure of yours! Brad, you're the man! (Your spotters were terrific too, as is your JGC!). Greetings from the island of Chios (pronounced He-os) in the Aegean Sea in Greece. Stay safe.
Having ran this trail within the last 2 weeks, I'm surprised you didn't take one of the lines on the left side ultimately. I did it in a stock height 4 door jlu on 35s , but went for the easiest line I could find on the wall. I think you wouldn't have had a break over issue. We had a Cherokee trailhawk with us, and I think if he had mts and aired down a bit more he would have made it.
I stumbled across your channel a couple weeks ago and I am amazed by your Grand Cherokee. Enough so, that I located a 2015 Overland model that I am buying. I’ve been an avid off roader and Toyota loyalist. I’ll be trading my 2020 Tacoma for the Grand Cherokee. And although the Cherokee is 5 years older, the tech and features are far more advanced in comparison to my Tacoma. Great content. If you’re ever in Northern Nevada, send me a message. We will hit some trails.
When are you coming out to The Rubicon Trail in California? I was on it a couple of weeks (a small part of it) I had my grand Cherokee overland stock except for skid plates and tires I would love to join you or view your attempt at it
Not being there, i still think you took the wrong line, I feel from the video going up with the wheels on either side of the vee like the first Wrangler and also you will agree with this, a slightly larger diameter off road AT tyre would have given you a better chance, but you still did a great job getting up in a standard Trailhawk.
Great video. I cringed for you when I heard the underside dragging. Glad there was no damage! Would straddling that V at The Wall have been an option for you? It didn’t appear that it would have caused a high-center issue at the top like your path on the right presented.
@@ProdigalOverland Thanks. I'm just trying to gauge whether I'm going to be able to get up it. My Black Diamond Bronco is still stock at the moment, but I do have a rear locker.
Good gracious y'all at me on the edge of my seat with this one. What group is this? I'm up there in the San Juans every summer, always looking for trail buddies to adventure with. I've got a trailhawk wk2 as well.
Is it "possible" to put lockers on the front of your Grand Cherokee and is it "possible" to remove your air shocks so a normal lift kit could be installed? If it is possible, would you considering doing so? You have an awesome vehicle but would love to hear what you think. I currently have two Grand Cherokees.
I have a 2005 JGC limited with QD2 that has limited slip front and rear and one choice, 4 low. If he had this on his rig, with his guts and skills it would be even more beast mode.
Awesome stuff as always Brad!!! Is there a bypass around the harder stuff on this trail or don't do the trail if you can't do the hard stuff? oops didn't wait till the end when you told me my answer. So how would the trail be overall if you didn't do the hard stuff?
center was the best line. there was no way you were not going to center out at the top. the center line was doable, even in a Jeep GC. lol what tire`s were you on? they look like standard light duty AT`s.
I'd love to hear yours or anyone else's thoughts on why having the petrol engines are so popular in the US? Here is Australia Diesel engines are by far the most popular option for 4x4 vehicles. My GC Trailhawk is diesel and its a superb Engine with great power and more importantly an abundance on torque. It's so tractable in any situation especially when it's towing My 20'6 caravan, not mention the fuel economy. Would be awesome to get your opinions on the subject. Keep up the great work mate, love watching you and your mates having a great time on the tracks.
diesels: less CO2 (environment) than gas engines but unfortunately more harmful to human emissions = nitrogen oxides ( nitrogen dioxide, nitric oxide and greenhouse gases ) which cause cancers, heart attacks and so on ...
This area, and hill to me is showing more of the limitations of your ats, and where more agressive mud tires may have made a big difference with rock and dirt grip....
@@ProdigalOverland ya I won't disagree there you needed a 2 door wrangler kinda breakover haha. But I don't think the scraping sounded as bad on TH-cam as it probably did in real life lol. Great attempt tho. Poukipsie gulch is a really difficult trail that a previous version of me would have taken my kl on. Way to rep and push that thing hard
Zero chance of not getting high centered on that line in a WK. I understand the reluctance to be anywhere near that hole but the appropriate line was to straddle it favoring left to right as you go up then coming back left once the rear tire clear the huge hole.
Yup! That was the worst sound ever. I envisioned a manual can opener on the bottom of the Trail Hawk! I am still confused if that Trail Hawk is a 3 wheeler or 4 wheeler??? Great video and admire your skills and fortitude.
BRO ! I see this happan so many times trying to take a "STOCK"! 4WD out on a rugged trails. and you saw and felt how hard it was to do it. if you going to try doing it again you need to "MOD"/upgrade your tire/rims/shocks lift. The rest of your jeep grand cherokee set up will work find you just lacking in the tires/rims/ suspension department. sume set up suggestion for your jeep .1st a 2" lift kit to run a bigger tires. your said you riding 31" tires with a 2" lift you be able to run a 33" tire. cuz the tires are going to the most expense part of your build. 2nd go with 15"x 12.50 size rims. Dont go with those 17" which all the rage. only if you running 37" tire which will fit on your jeep. If you budget dosn,t allow you to buy a good top end off road tires. check out kenda tires. They gotta alot a good reviews as a good starting for off-road/overlanding tires. Do that and I guarantee you find your next overlanding experience will be way much better and funner for you too.
The GC didn’t do awful! It’s just not designed for this type of trail. …but it did it. All that being said, do you ever consider trading to a Wrangler? I’ve had 2 Jeeps and each time I’ve talked myself out of a Wrangler for practical reasons, and then spend the next 5-6 years pining after the Wrangler. Maybe next time…
@@ProdigalOverland one of these days maybe I’ll have enough money for a a good Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler. 🤣 The GC is just so capable for most situations, but the Wrangler is so unique.
@@ProdigalOverland full size bronco badlands trim with the sasquatch package would be awesome, especially since you have a dedicated tow rig now! My 2017 jku winter edition only has steel bumpers, sliders, some skids, limited slip rear and winch but it's still more capable than I am right now. Glad to see some amazing video of my home state! We also have a 2019 GC Trailhawk with the hemi and we love it! Great job on the videos so far, keep it up!
There is a fork in the trail where the sign is. If you don’t want to do the hard section you go the other way. But once you head down the hard trail you can’t bypass the wall. You’d have to turn around
One of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen. How did you not know you lacked the ground clearance to go up that obstacle? Getting stuck behind folks like you is the most maddening thing on a good off-road trip.
My favorite part is the skill of that dirt bike rider riding BACKWARDS up the mountain!!!! That was wild!
Straddle that v-wedge folks, straddle it and you walk right up. I’ve done it multiple times.
Great job! One of your best videos yet! I appreciate you pushing the limits of your vehicle to actually see it’s full potential. As to the skid plates, that’s what they’re there for. good for you not being scared to use them.
Thanks for the feedback!
So grateful for that underbody protection! Chief Products for the win!
I'm so grateful there are people like you who actually test the limits of their fully-independent suspension unibody vehicles and their underbody protection. This video only solidified my choice to be subscribed!
High centers than winches forward ?? Was he from Texas ?? 🤣
Kevin has the Right Jeep setup…if HE can’t make it, then it can’t be made. The only negative is it’s a 4 door, the longer wheel base makes it a little bit easier to hang, but he had the right setup.
And that is why I drive a side x side. Walks up and over obstacles like that. No pucker factor at all. Crazy how hard Jeeps make it look.
Man this was crazy. I really think the left side woupd hAve been easier but great job got getting up!
Looks like Dave walked up it, but took an easy like. Good job Kevin, you earned bragging rights on that one
Best intro to Poughkeepsie Gulch and the Wall - ever!!!! We were just there last week and that trail was awesome, the entire trail from bottom to top is a must do trail.
Did this trail a little less than a week ago, out of 10 jeeps, 5 side by sides, 1 jeep 392, and 2 side by sides made it up. One side by side flipped and the rest of us were winched up. We've done this trail in the past and my god was it wet and slick this year. Nothing but rain there this time of year!
Yep lots of rain for sure
GS and Wrangler can't be compared together because each one was designed for different purpose. GS is an Onroad/Offroad vehicle with comfort, luxury and excellence Offroad performance. Wrangler is an Offroad vehicle with extraordinary performance but not comfortable, not luxurious and not stable at high speed.
It is nice how you push the limits of this rig.
Well put✌
Thanks for the head up that you can bypass the wall. I think I might be able to some of those other obstacles and would hate to miss out on the whole trial because of it.
Wow, grand cherokee is fighting for survival ❣️
Great photography / great Vid / prodigal Overland for the best WK videos!
Great stuff once again. Thanks for sharing!
Great stuff mate, I just bought a new Grand Cherokee Trail Hawk and it's great to see you using it the way it was designed.
I don't think mine will get that sort of treatment though as I've got a modified dual cab ute for that. The GC will be towing my caravan however.
Awesome from Australia
Thanks for reaching out!
Waiting on my WK2 just bought with Hemi, QDII, great channel, subscribed. Had a WK1 for years, stoked
Good stuff!
Great intro! As for the rest...all I can say is WOW! And I said this one word throughout this awesome adventure of yours! Brad, you're the man! (Your spotters were terrific too, as is your JGC!).
Greetings from the island of Chios (pronounced He-os) in the Aegean Sea in Greece.
Stay safe.
Glad you enjoyed it! you stay safe as well!
Great video! Will be there in 2 1/2 weeks in my 4Runner. Love the comedic trio at the end, LOL.
Top content as always!!! Kudos for trying… was hard listening to the TH dragging… :-) great to have quality underbody protection.
Thanks!
Having ran this trail within the last 2 weeks, I'm surprised you didn't take one of the lines on the left side ultimately. I did it in a stock height 4 door jlu on 35s , but went for the easiest line I could find on the wall. I think you wouldn't have had a break over issue. We had a Cherokee trailhawk with us, and I think if he had mts and aired down a bit more he would have made it.
With a rig like this you could highly benefit from disconnecting the sway bars once on the trail! Hope ya had good skid plates!
If only jeep offered it in the GC like they did with the wrangler and the Powerwagon.
I stumbled across your channel a couple weeks ago and I am amazed by your Grand Cherokee. Enough so, that I located a 2015 Overland model that I am buying. I’ve been an avid off roader and Toyota loyalist. I’ll be trading my 2020 Tacoma for the Grand Cherokee. And although the Cherokee is 5 years older, the tech and features are far more advanced in comparison to my Tacoma. Great content. If you’re ever in Northern Nevada, send me a message. We will hit some trails.
When are you coming out to The Rubicon Trail in California? I was on it a couple of weeks (a small part of it) I had my grand Cherokee overland stock except for skid plates and tires
I would love to join you or view your attempt at it
Not being there, i still think you took the wrong line, I feel from the video going up with the wheels on either side of the vee like the first Wrangler and also you will agree with this, a slightly larger diameter off road AT tyre would have given you a better chance, but you still did a great job getting up in a standard Trailhawk.
Amazing video, crazy how hard that is, content flawless as always
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I cringed for you when I heard the underside dragging. Glad there was no damage! Would straddling that V at The Wall have been an option for you? It didn’t appear that it would have caused a high-center issue at the top like your path on the right presented.
Would love to try this trail! Smart going with a group here! You did well!
Thanks!
What kind of clearance do you have on your Grand Cherokee? Also, I couldnt tell - do you have lockers? Great video, by the way! Really well done!
We have about 11.5 inches of clearance. With a rear limited slip.
@@ProdigalOverland Thanks. I'm just trying to gauge whether I'm going to be able to get up it. My Black Diamond Bronco is still stock at the moment, but I do have a rear locker.
@@ProdigalOverland And I definitely appreciate that you're willing to take risks in your Jeep. I'm still figuring this all out.
Good gracious y'all at me on the edge of my seat with this one. What group is this? I'm up there in the San Juans every summer, always looking for trail buddies to adventure with. I've got a trailhawk wk2 as well.
Thanks for watching! Just us an a busy on an adventure!
My vehicle is not modified but my brain has a special app.
That's way more dug/ washed out below the wall. I doubt anything without lockers and good flex could even get to the wall now.
I may be there this fall in a v6 equipped cj3, 5:29s with lockers and 37s. Do you think my short wheelbase is going to be a problem?
Is it "possible" to put lockers on the front of your Grand Cherokee and is it "possible" to remove your air shocks so a normal lift kit could be installed? If it is possible, would you considering doing so? You have an awesome vehicle but would love to hear what you think.
I currently have two Grand Cherokees.
I have a 2005 JGC limited with QD2 that has limited slip front and rear and one choice, 4 low. If he had this on his rig, with his guts and skills it would be even more beast mode.
Awesome stuff as always Brad!!! Is there a bypass around the harder stuff on this trail or don't do the trail if you can't do the hard stuff? oops didn't wait till the end when you told me my answer. So how would the trail be overall if you didn't do the hard stuff?
It’s still worth doing I think. Scenery out there is incredible!
Just did Poughkeepsie Gulch last week in my Grand Cherokee but bypassed the wall.
center was the best line. there was no way you were not going to center out at the top. the center line was doable, even in a Jeep GC. lol what tire`s were you on? they look like standard light duty AT`s.
Nice video! Kevin needs to listen to the spotter a little more, made me nervous 😓
I'd love to hear yours or anyone else's thoughts on why having the petrol engines are so popular in the US?
Here is Australia Diesel engines are by far the most popular option for 4x4 vehicles. My GC Trailhawk is diesel and its a superb
Engine with great power and more importantly an abundance on torque. It's so tractable in any situation especially when it's towing
My 20'6 caravan, not mention the fuel economy.
Would be awesome to get your opinions on the subject.
Keep up the great work mate, love watching you and your mates having a great time on the tracks.
diesels: less CO2 (environment) than gas engines but unfortunately more harmful to human emissions = nitrogen oxides ( nitrogen dioxide, nitric oxide and greenhouse gases ) which cause cancers, heart attacks and so on ...
Wow, that hurts, I don't think I would have had the courage to try that.
Good thing you had the winch, but how did you anchor it?
They have anchor points by the obsticle
Awesome epic
Good job! You got cojones, I mean, that's a pretty expensive GC to attempt that "wall." I'm sure I wouldn't have.
Thanks!
This area, and hill to me is showing more of the limitations of your ats, and where more agressive mud tires may have made a big difference with rock and dirt grip....
I second this
Don't get me wrong I run mts and prefer ats. But it is what it is
So I'd have to say at least on this line, that is was a case of running out of ground clearance.
@@ProdigalOverland ya I won't disagree there you needed a 2 door wrangler kinda breakover haha. But I don't think the scraping sounded as bad on TH-cam as it probably did in real life lol. Great attempt tho. Poukipsie gulch is a really difficult trail that a previous version of me would have taken my kl on. Way to rep and push that thing hard
Zero chance of not getting high centered on that line in a WK. I understand the reluctance to be anywhere near that hole but the appropriate line was to straddle it favoring left to right as you go up then coming back left once the rear tire clear the huge hole.
You did well though
great video. you`ve earned a subscriber. however I would`ve went up the middle.
Yup! That was the worst sound ever. I envisioned a manual can opener on the bottom of the Trail Hawk! I am still confused if that Trail Hawk is a 3 wheeler or 4 wheeler??? Great video and admire your skills and fortitude.
😂 thanks for watching!
I'd suggest a bigger lift. That's not hight enough. Clearance will make a huge difference
That chick knew her shit.
She sure did. They were part of a local guide group that takes people out there frequently. She was very helpful!
And that's why you take a Wrangler to this trail instead of a GC lol.
BRO ! I see this happan so many times trying to take a "STOCK"! 4WD out on a rugged trails. and you saw and felt how hard it was to do it. if you going to try doing it again you need to "MOD"/upgrade your tire/rims/shocks lift. The rest of your jeep grand cherokee set up will work find you just lacking in the tires/rims/ suspension department. sume set up suggestion for your jeep .1st a 2" lift kit to run a bigger tires. your said you riding 31" tires with a 2" lift you be able to run a 33" tire. cuz the tires are going to the most expense part of your build. 2nd go with 15"x 12.50 size rims. Dont go with those 17" which all the rage. only if you running 37" tire which will fit on your jeep. If you budget dosn,t allow you to buy a good top end off road tires. check out kenda tires. They gotta alot a good reviews as a good starting for off-road/overlanding tires. Do that and I guarantee you find your next overlanding experience will be way much better and funner for you too.
Ouch!!! That hurts
The GC didn’t do awful! It’s just not designed for this type of trail. …but it did it. All that being said, do you ever consider trading to a Wrangler? I’ve had 2 Jeeps and each time I’ve talked myself out of a Wrangler for practical reasons, and then spend the next 5-6 years pining after the Wrangler. Maybe next time…
I have thought about a rig that can handle the more difficult trails. Maybe one day
@@ProdigalOverland one of these days maybe I’ll have enough money for a a good Grand Cherokee and a Wrangler. 🤣 The GC is just so capable for most situations, but the Wrangler is so unique.
@@ProdigalOverland full size bronco badlands trim with the sasquatch package would be awesome, especially since you have a dedicated tow rig now! My 2017 jku winter edition only has steel bumpers, sliders, some skids, limited slip rear and winch but it's still more capable than I am right now. Glad to see some amazing video of my home state! We also have a 2019 GC Trailhawk with the hemi and we love it! Great job on the videos so far, keep it up!
You’re a beast
Thanks Man.
Is that only the factory skid plates or have there been modifications made?
We are running Chief Products skid plates and the Mopar factory ones.
Just watched the Donut Media Hi Lo finale and was wondering “can my Jeep do that?” Here’s the answer
…..kinda
Was there a bypass to the wall or was that the only way up
There is a fork in the trail where the sign is. If you don’t want to do the hard section you go the other way. But once you head down the hard trail you can’t bypass the wall. You’d have to turn around
I thought you sent a front CV!
Nope not yet!
Seriously hate spotters sometimes. Smh
One of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen. How did you not know you lacked the ground clearance to go up that obstacle? Getting stuck behind folks like you is the most maddening thing on a good off-road trip.
If you literally have to skull drag it with its wheels off the ground it can't do it.
Winch Blanket!!! ??? Why aren't they being used? Your a long way from emergency medical assistance!!
Oof!
Great video, intro too long…
Wrong vehicle, wrong equipment, I hate to be the voice of dissent but you are begging to be stranded in the back country