The old Original Xboxes are from the capacitor plague era and the PSUs are slowly but surely rotting away (and eating tons of internal space). A USB C mod would be amazing for them. Alternatively people have managed to use Pico PSUs to power them using an external brick.
The OG Xbox uses around 70ish watts, so you would need a pretty substantial power brick to power it. The PS2 is around 50ish watts, but it's still pretty substantial when compared to something like the Dreamcast which uses 20ish watts. So the Dreamcast is easy to do this for in comparison to the Xbox or PS2.
I got my Dreamcast about eight years ago. And I was really disappointed to see that it didn't want to read my discs. If it did, it returned to the menu screen after a couple of minutes. I even added solder to the pin connectors to tighten their grip to the mainboard, which did the trick. But if I had known that there would be such a thing as a USB-C power supply for it, I think I wouldn't have done that. Nevertheless, I finally want to give my Dreamcast the modern upgrades it deserves, which is why I got the USB-C mod. And I'm seriously considering to get more, so long as they are easy to install like this one.
Awesome work RetroSix! To answer your question of possible mods for the future... The one thing I would REALLY want for the Dreamcast is some way to make it connect to the internet. The DreamPi together with dreamcast live are awesome porjects. A nice mod would be to easily connect a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W (Wi-Fi !!!) to the Clean power 5V, + phone cable with a 18V step-up conversion drawn from the Clean Power as well.... But yeah, the biggest issue is just getting hold of those pesky compatible DELL and Lenovo modems.
@@RetroSix well you need to be able to connect the RPi to the Dreamcast communication port some way or another. Currently that can only be done with using an RPi, the Dell or Lenovo RD02-D400 usb-modems (which are unnecessarily pricey) connected to the Dreamcast modem with a custom cable that feeds 9V (NTSC) or 18V (PAL) between both ends. At this point I thought someone would've been able to make a modern Network replacement board for the modem casing. But I guess it's a beast of a project and due to how few games are supported and how few Dreamcasts are out in the wild. I guess no one has been willing to spend the time on such a big project just for the sake of preserving niche online features... The ultimate solution would've required modem emulation (due to game compatibility), Networking Driver + dedicated Dreamcast software to setup Wi-Fi, but yeah, the easier solution would be to just stick with LAN instead. That way you wouldn't need to interface with the network board. Ultimately someone still needs to build that modem emulation code and a compatible network board for the DC. And even though I am a developer myself, this would require substantial amount of research for me personally.
@@RetroSix i have an old broken power box in stock for when the board is ready, so i can mount it inside and still keep the old aesthetics, but yeah, mounting the board on the old nintendo 64 power connector would be perfect in my opinion
I love a lot about this mod! If I could make a couple suggestions, maybe a little extra bits of plastic to left and right of where the board plugs in to physically block an accidental misaligned plugin of the board, and perhaps a redesign down the line to add a screw hole (plus a spacer underneath) so the board can be nice and securely screwed into the Dreamcast. Other than that, you've thought of everything!
the mod looks clean and love how simple it is, the only thing i would say im concern about it is that its only held in place by the pins from the console and nothing is under it to have it firm in place. but other than that i like this mod, and im interested in it for my dreamcast.
Already been converting my megadrives and master systems for lower heat and different power options, This is a nice tidy solution though, It's probably too low volume to bother with but some kind of daisychainable version for the MD/MEGACD/32X to run them off one plug would be nice.
An intresting one to look at would be consoles that use external power supplies like the CDI which have two voltages 12V / 3V lines and use a phone wire style connector.
Awesome mod. Looking forward picking one up. Does it work well with GDEMU? :) I think the only difference is that that there is far less resistance on the 12V rail. the only mod I am looking for now is an internal rpi zero 2 dreampi wi-fi mod. However, getting hold of cheap DELL modem is getting extremely hard these days. I wish there was a off-the-shelf mod solution to connect the Dreamcast to the internet, without relying on depricated USB-modems.
Great work on engineering that board Looking around for a proper PSU for the DC DreamPSU ReDream PSU PICO PSU Chinese 110V-220V “found eBay and AliExpress” For heavily modified DCs I wonder when the next revision is coming up ?
Excellent. If only I could find a reasonably priced factory sealed new Dreamcast console. I'm looking forward to Clean Power coming to Sega Saturn, N64 and PS2. Any chance of RetroSix also selling region branded multiple coloured Saturn shells like HD Zone used to do in Australia?
@@RetroSixI would absolutely love if you made some PSOne shells (PS1 slim model) as I can’t find any online) Also I bought one of those Dreamcast shells you sell (a yellow one) but for some reason the power button doesn’t align with my power switch, on closer inspection the power button has a different angled groove. I had to reuse my old Dreamcast power button on my new shell, could it just be a factory error or is my Dreamcast model different to the 3rd party shell Dreamcast? 🤔
Interesting idea, not enough to make me change out my DreamPower but from a design perspective it would be nice to see you utilise the front left screw hole the stock PSU uses, just to hold the new PSU in place. The likes of the aforementioned DreamPower and Pico PSU’s use that hole, and while I appreciate these smaller boards don’t weigh a lot, using the PSU pins alone to hold the PCB would put me off.
We can make a 3D bracket for that if people want to print it for sure. According to users reporting to myself during making this mod, neither DreamPower or Pico PSUs can handle GDEmu without sporadic crashes FYI, it was a big request that this board should support that properly. We have ran this on a GDEmu modded console now for 8 days constant (never turned it off yet) without issue.
@@SEGAGuys DreamPower and DreamPSU both had reports of almost all DC external power supplies introducing noise to video also. This can happen with any power supply, you need a good isolated low noise power supply, which USB-C is super easy to find (we sell them for like £14). Plus the added benefit of USB-C now not just another custom DC power supply just for that console
@@AngelSix Not saying USB-C doesn’t have clear benefits in terms of the lack of a power brick/supply being needed, but DreamPower (and PicoPSU if assembled by a trustworthy modder) should never be associated with DreamPSU which Voultar tore to shreds as it’s not even designed specifically for Dreamcast. I’ve used a Chrisz2600 PicoPSU and now a DreamPower by Coaster2K, and neither had resetting/crash issues or noise in the picture. I just think it’s important to focus on the benefits of this product rather than try to tear down others by comparison. My sole concern with USB-C would be the connection on the back of the console, in terms of tightness. I’ve bought new laptops with USB-C and the cable barely makes a click when it goes in. Now you won’t move a console as often as a laptop, but for me it’s important that cable is in and it’s secure. The biggest benefit, as I said, is that it’s a simple USB-C cable and plug, but in two years with the DreamPower I’ve had zero issues with it. Absolutely none.
@@SEGAGuys I've not tried to tear down anyone nor have I ever used or seen either. I've only had feedback from the community telling me these things. Not my words. Even on our discord poeple mentioning those issues and in comments of this very video people asking if it works with GDEmu as others don't. No hate to any others just stating clearly what others have mentioned
I left a thumbs up. If I could leave a thumbs WAY up I would've done it! This is an awesome product which is greatly needed and long overdue. I put it right up there, or maybe even above, HDMI mods. I don't have a Dreamcast, but I'll be keeping my eyes open for the Genesis, 2600, NES, and Xbox (hopefully). Awesome work.
@@RetroSix Perfect thank you guys for making and expanding the retro community.I suffer from anxiety and depression and getting into retro and playing these old games has help me more then medicine.But your work is helping a lot of men and women everyday
Hello, i have modded my Dreamcast myself with DCHDMI, Terraonion Mode with a 2,5" Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD and did the controllerboard upgrade with the selfresetting fuse, batteryholder and cap. With the original PSU everything is running fine, when i replace it with the CleanPower the Dreamcast does reset itself when it loads into the games mostly after the intro, i've used a 30W Gan and a 120W Gan charger from Ugreen, they have the same rating or higher as the charger which is on your shopsite. What do you think can be the issue? Kind regards
Do you offer any color options for the 3D printed part? The DC had a few official color options and there are a lot of 3rd party colored housings out and about. My Dreamcast for example has a Green replacement shell.
I can make them in any colors. I thought only white was official except rare black one? and all others third party. But if you can provide some color images I can make them
@@RetroSix Thanks for the response. You are indeed correct white is the most common color of the Dreamcast with a black sports edition being the second most common but still far rarer than the white. There are some official other colors but they were Japanese limited editions and are probably not going to pop up very often.
So does this take 20v from the USB-C? I'm really annoyed at how there's a lack of understanding of how varied USB-C output can be. I have a 30w USB-C charger which doesn't supply 20v, only 5, 9 and 12v. Or can it take 12v too?
Hi Retrosix,Any plans for a second batch of this mod,as I just came across it and went to order 1 only to see it was sold out. Also any plans to do a similar mod for a PS1,PS2 ,PS3 or beyond?
@@RetroSix Nice! Thanks for the quick reply. Is that just your store or everyone else that carries them as well? I see handheldlegend carries them as well. Probably who I would purchase from being in the US.
Will n this work with the gdemu mod? I'm thinking of grabbing the pico or dteam ps if but cant access your video. Howe reliable is this usb c mod,? Does it deliver the correct voltage?
Without the green leds it would be cool. Why does it need to bling-bling? Is it neccessary, does it make the thing more "cool"? U cant see it why the console is closed, and it ruins the overall look in an transcluent shell. Really sad, i would have bought that, but it seems i have to stick with dreampsu. "Less is more" fits perfectly in this case.
I don't recall Amiga other than the one I had as a kid when I was very young but didn't know it was an Amiga until recently when we had one in for repair and I knew I had one
The old Original Xboxes are from the capacitor plague era and the PSUs are slowly but surely rotting away (and eating tons of internal space).
A USB C mod would be amazing for them. Alternatively people have managed to use Pico PSUs to power them using an external brick.
The OG Xbox uses around 70ish watts, so you would need a pretty substantial power brick to power it. The PS2 is around 50ish watts, but it's still pretty substantial when compared to something like the Dreamcast which uses 20ish watts. So the Dreamcast is easy to do this for in comparison to the Xbox or PS2.
That mod is SIMPLE! which is what this mod exactly needed, great work!
Awesome. Hopefully we see this on the Saturn soon.
Beautiful, love this mod! Definitely look forward to the sega Saturn mod
Yep that's very next one on the list
When gamecube???
Can't wait for the Saturn USB C mod!
Spoke too soon, and saw the next video on this, awesome!
I got my Dreamcast about eight years ago. And I was really disappointed to see that it didn't want to read my discs. If it did, it returned to the menu screen after a couple of minutes. I even added solder to the pin connectors to tighten their grip to the mainboard, which did the trick. But if I had known that there would be such a thing as a USB-C power supply for it, I think I wouldn't have done that. Nevertheless, I finally want to give my Dreamcast the modern upgrades it deserves, which is why I got the USB-C mod. And I'm seriously considering to get more, so long as they are easy to install like this one.
Awesome work RetroSix! To answer your question of possible mods for the future... The one thing I would REALLY want for the Dreamcast is some way to make it connect to the internet. The DreamPi together with dreamcast live are awesome porjects. A nice mod would be to easily connect a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W (Wi-Fi !!!) to the Clean power 5V, + phone cable with a 18V step-up conversion drawn from the Clean Power as well.... But yeah, the biggest issue is just getting hold of those pesky compatible DELL and Lenovo modems.
I would of thought their would exist a modern WiFi to modem emulator code now to make it all run from a single Rasp Pi?
@@RetroSix well you need to be able to connect the RPi to the Dreamcast communication port some way or another. Currently that can only be done with using an RPi, the Dell or Lenovo RD02-D400 usb-modems (which are unnecessarily pricey) connected to the Dreamcast modem with a custom cable that feeds 9V (NTSC) or 18V (PAL) between both ends. At this point I thought someone would've been able to make a modern Network replacement board for the modem casing. But I guess it's a beast of a project and due to how few games are supported and how few Dreamcasts are out in the wild. I guess no one has been willing to spend the time on such a big project just for the sake of preserving niche online features... The ultimate solution would've required modem emulation (due to game compatibility), Networking Driver + dedicated Dreamcast software to setup Wi-Fi, but yeah, the easier solution would be to just stick with LAN instead. That way you wouldn't need to interface with the network board. Ultimately someone still needs to build that modem emulation code and a compatible network board for the DC. And even though I am a developer myself, this would require substantial amount of research for me personally.
I would love to see something like this for the PS2.
i'm gonna buy this and the n64 when it's ready 👀👀
I could make N64 plug and play without even opening console. Probably the way I would go with that one
@@RetroSix i have an old broken power box in stock for when the board is ready, so i can mount it inside and still keep the old aesthetics, but yeah, mounting the board on the old nintendo 64 power connector would be perfect in my opinion
Cool, using USB-C chargers will be much more reliable than the generic power supplies the existing powerboard mods require.
Definitely
I love a lot about this mod! If I could make a couple suggestions, maybe a little extra bits of plastic to left and right of where the board plugs in to physically block an accidental misaligned plugin of the board, and perhaps a redesign down the line to add a screw hole (plus a spacer underneath) so the board can be nice and securely screwed into the Dreamcast.
Other than that, you've thought of everything!
Yep agree to both I'll improve them
What a masterpiece!
Thanks
Would love to see u come out with an hdmi mod for the dreamcast. I trust your work over others.
Definitely something in the works I think for a retro HDMI kit for desktops
There are other HDMI mods out there for Dreamcast, But the Sega Saturn truly need someone to make a HDMI mod for it, Since no one has yet.
Great stuff as always!
Thanks
I would love one for the 3DO FZ-1. That cord isn't even removable and the power supplies all have yellow gunk on them.
the mod looks clean and love how simple it is, the only thing i would say im concern about it is that its only held in place by the pins from the console and nothing is under it to have it firm in place.
but other than that i like this mod, and im interested in it for my dreamcast.
Already been converting my megadrives and master systems for lower heat and different power options, This is a nice tidy solution though, It's probably too low volume to bother with but some kind of daisychainable version for the MD/MEGACD/32X to run them off one plug would be nice.
We do a DC internal mod so if only needs one power so that could be done too
Hm, powering the Sega trifecta from a single PD USB-C may be a bit of a stretch... but I'll let the experts speak :)
An intresting one to look at would be consoles that use external power supplies like the CDI which have two voltages 12V / 3V lines and use a phone wire style connector.
It's same way, internal mod with USB-C single input. I will be making for CDI also
now this looks excellent upgrade though.
Awesome mod. Looking forward picking one up. Does it work well with GDEMU? :) I think the only difference is that that there is far less resistance on the 12V rail.
the only mod I am looking for now is an internal rpi zero 2 dreampi wi-fi mod. However, getting hold of cheap DELL modem is getting extremely hard these days. I wish there was a off-the-shelf mod solution to connect the Dreamcast to the internet, without relying on depricated USB-modems.
Yep works perfectly with GDEmu. Tested for 24 hour run multiple times
Hi, make black brackets too. The white one looks weird in black dreamcast consoles and clear shells too
Brilliant!
Great work on engineering that board
Looking around for a proper PSU for the DC
DreamPSU
ReDream PSU
PICO PSU
Chinese 110V-220V “found eBay and AliExpress”
For heavily modified DCs I wonder when the next revision is coming up ?
Excellent. If only I could find a reasonably priced factory sealed new Dreamcast console.
I'm looking forward to Clean Power coming to Sega Saturn, N64 and PS2. Any chance of RetroSix also selling region branded multiple coloured Saturn shells like HD Zone used to do in Australia?
We make our own shell moulds all the time. Expensive and slow but we have plans for desktop console shells later in the year
@@RetroSix okay i'm gonna need a transparent wii gamecube and ps2 too then 👀👀👀
@@RetroSixI would absolutely love if you made some PSOne shells (PS1 slim model) as I can’t find any online)
Also I bought one of those Dreamcast shells you sell (a yellow one) but for some reason the power button doesn’t align with my power switch, on closer inspection the power button has a different angled groove.
I had to reuse my old Dreamcast power button on my new shell, could it just be a factory error or is my Dreamcast model different to the 3rd party shell Dreamcast? 🤔
Man, just give me an ol' sturdy metal barrel plug!
Is the CleanPower smart enough to deliver the right amount of power whether or not it's with a stock CD drive or GDEMU?
You know it. Did 24 hour gaming test on GDEmu and no issues
Awesome
Thanks
First console that came to mind is the original Xbox 😉
I will add it to the list
Nice futureproofing mod
thanks
No more center negative surprises! ;) I'm totally getting a couple for my Sega line, when available... say MS1/2, MD1/2 (+ Saturn maybe?)
MS1/2 in production now. MD1/2 enter production tomorrow. Saturn underway now
Interesting idea, not enough to make me change out my DreamPower but from a design perspective it would be nice to see you utilise the front left screw hole the stock PSU uses, just to hold the new PSU in place.
The likes of the aforementioned DreamPower and Pico PSU’s use that hole, and while I appreciate these smaller boards don’t weigh a lot, using the PSU pins alone to hold the PCB would put me off.
We can make a 3D bracket for that if people want to print it for sure.
According to users reporting to myself during making this mod, neither DreamPower or Pico PSUs can handle GDEmu without sporadic crashes FYI, it was a big request that this board should support that properly. We have ran this on a GDEmu modded console now for 8 days constant (never turned it off yet) without issue.
@@RetroSix You’re confusing DreamPower with DreamPSU. I wouldn’t power a kettle with DreamPSU.
@@SEGAGuys DreamPower and DreamPSU both had reports of almost all DC external power supplies introducing noise to video also. This can happen with any power supply, you need a good isolated low noise power supply, which USB-C is super easy to find (we sell them for like £14). Plus the added benefit of USB-C now not just another custom DC power supply just for that console
@@AngelSix Not saying USB-C doesn’t have clear benefits in terms of the lack of a power brick/supply being needed, but DreamPower (and PicoPSU if assembled by a trustworthy modder) should never be associated with DreamPSU which Voultar tore to shreds as it’s not even designed specifically for Dreamcast.
I’ve used a Chrisz2600 PicoPSU and now a DreamPower by Coaster2K, and neither had resetting/crash issues or noise in the picture. I just think it’s important to focus on the benefits of this product rather than try to tear down others by comparison.
My sole concern with USB-C would be the connection on the back of the console, in terms of tightness. I’ve bought new laptops with USB-C and the cable barely makes a click when it goes in. Now you won’t move a console as often as a laptop, but for me it’s important that cable is in and it’s secure.
The biggest benefit, as I said, is that it’s a simple USB-C cable and plug, but in two years with the DreamPower I’ve had zero issues with it.
Absolutely none.
@@SEGAGuys I've not tried to tear down anyone nor have I ever used or seen either. I've only had feedback from the community telling me these things. Not my words. Even on our discord poeple mentioning those issues and in comments of this very video people asking if it works with GDEmu as others don't.
No hate to any others just stating clearly what others have mentioned
This is class. When will it be back in stock?
About a week
Wicked cheers 👍🏻
I left a thumbs up. If I could leave a thumbs WAY up I would've done it! This is an awesome product which is greatly needed and long overdue. I put it right up there, or maybe even above, HDMI mods. I don't have a Dreamcast, but I'll be keeping my eyes open for the Genesis, 2600, NES, and Xbox (hopefully). Awesome work.
Thanks for the support 😊
nice one lad
I hate the intro music with a passion but the video is dope as hell I will order this soon
Thanks. I'll choose some new music for next CleanPower :P
@@RetroSix Nah you good brother I have a question would you recommend this device for the HK-3020 Dreamcast?
Yep works with every version no problems
@@RetroSix Perfect thank you guys for making and expanding the retro community.I suffer from anxiety and depression and getting into retro and playing these old games has help me more then medicine.But your work is helping a lot of men and women everyday
This looks awesome. Unfortunately, my Dreamcast's laser broke a couple of years ago. I heard you guys do repairs. True?
Yep we repair everything
@@RetroSix
Awesome. Do I just need to send it to your address and pay accordingly? My unit does have one or two more faults.
Book it in on RetroSix.co.uk under Repairs then read the link in yellow text how to send it in
Stoke on Trent mate
Clean juice for the atari links would be brilliant
Yep I'll definitely be making one. Just no defined timeline just yet
How about a mod that allows you to use an ODE without removing the GD-ROM drive? Something similar already exists for the Saturn.
Certainly something I'll consider in future
Hello, i have modded my Dreamcast myself with DCHDMI, Terraonion Mode with a 2,5" Samsung 870 EVO 500GB SSD and did the controllerboard upgrade with the selfresetting fuse, batteryholder and cap.
With the original PSU everything is running fine, when i replace it with the CleanPower the Dreamcast does reset itself when it loads into the games mostly after the intro, i've used a 30W Gan and a 120W Gan charger from Ugreen, they have the same rating or higher as the charger which is on your shopsite.
What do you think can be the issue?
Kind regards
Probably getting little hot. We have heat sinks on new version you can try sticking some self adhesive heat sinks on the underside of CleanPower
Do you plan on making one for the fat playstation 2 and the Nintendo 64? And if so when might I be able to see them available for purchase?
Sure do. Working through all consoles. N64 probably pretty soon.
PS2 little while longer as quite a few more in front of that
Do you offer any color options for the 3D printed part? The DC had a few official color options and there are a lot of 3rd party colored housings out and about. My Dreamcast for example has a Green replacement shell.
I can make them in any colors. I thought only white was official except rare black one? and all others third party. But if you can provide some color images I can make them
@@RetroSix Thanks for the response. You are indeed correct white is the most common color of the Dreamcast with a black sports edition being the second most common but still far rarer than the white. There are some official other colors but they were Japanese limited editions and are probably not going to pop up very often.
So does this take 20v from the USB-C? I'm really annoyed at how there's a lack of understanding of how varied USB-C output can be. I have a 30w USB-C charger which doesn't supply 20v, only 5, 9 and 12v. Or can it take 12v too?
12V is fine
Hi Retrosix,Any plans for a second batch of this mod,as I just came across it and went to order 1 only to see it was sold out. Also any plans to do a similar mod for a PS1,PS2 ,PS3 or beyond?
Yes new batch is currently in production. Will do other consoles soon too
@@RetroSixwill you be doing one for the Nintendo 64
@@RetroSixstill waiting on the 2nd batch of clean power PSU ,Really excited
I see these are out of stock. Any idea when they’ll be back?
5 weeks
@@RetroSix Nice! Thanks for the quick reply. Is that just your store or everyone else that carries them as well? I see handheldlegend carries them as well. Probably who I would purchase from being in the US.
If they have them in stock then you can get them from a distributor
@@RetroSix Looks like it's been 7-8 weeks. Any updates?
New design was no good. Old design with added copper and heat sink in production
How many volt charge must to buy please .something same with charger from mobile phone....
Will n this work with the gdemu mod? I'm thinking of grabbing the pico or dteam ps if but cant access your video. Howe reliable is this usb c mod,? Does it deliver the correct voltage?
Yes it does. Very reliable. Sold over 500 so far
@@RetroSix when are you releasing the next batch?
usb standard 5V 1A? Or need Power supply unit? Thank you.
Need a power delivery usb of 20W or higher
Oi queria saber se existe possibilidade de tipo c para sega saturn e playstation 1 e NEO GEO CD
As far as power block; can. 20w power it up?
It's on borderline but should do
Привет на алиэкспресс блок питания продается этот?
Cost as much as a whole used console tho
Any chance to get an Nintendo 64 usb c mod?
Yep
@@RetroSix awesome! Please post on all your channels/pages when you do I don't want to miss it!
Usb c is fragile. Dc input is a better solution
Without the green leds it would be cool. Why does it need to bling-bling? Is it neccessary, does it make the thing more "cool"? U cant see it why the console is closed, and it ruins the overall look in an transcluent shell. Really sad, i would have bought that, but it seems i have to stick with dreampsu. "Less is more" fits perfectly in this case.
It's for diagnostic purposes. Not for bling bling
11
Lose the music my man, Jesus. The cringe.
The Sega Dreamcast was quite possibly the worst console ever made. I'd say it's either that or the Saturn.
I loved both! Sonic Adventure and Crazy Taxi for Dreamcast were amazing, and Saturn had Sonic R, Sega Rally and many more
The Amiga was the worst system!! Look, don’t even remember it coming out do you😂
I don't recall Amiga other than the one I had as a kid when I was very young but didn't know it was an Amiga until recently when we had one in for repair and I knew I had one
@@RetroSix there’s 3 I think, one for the early generations.. I had the 32bit one, it was like a value brand Sega