Have known and admired the skill and craftsmanship of Wayne Godshall for over 30 years. And, consider it an honor to have one of the first locomotives built by him! He has put more people on Pennsylvania RR engines than anyone else since the Baldwin and Juniata Shops have closed! If you have questions about buying his engines...just ask a man who owns one!
I am going to say this is a pretty good bang for the buck. I don't personally own a live steam engine but I've done a lot of research and have found that smaller Locomotives like a ten wheeler can cost you over 20k and you still have to machine it. With this Locomotive it can be done to a complete running Locomotive for 40k I think they said. Now of course theres a lot of things that could vary depending on exactly how you want it built but I think that's a good deal? Just wondering what you think of that? 👍😃
I know that the is has nothing to do what I wanted, but I remember making comments in the past saying you guys should do a review on a steam engine, and it’s awesome to see one.
No, they are people who got up in the morning and went to work. They are people who actually did more than sit in front of a telly and admire someone else's work. They are people who have a sense of enjoying the work of their hands. From your comment, I would suspect you wish they would give their earnings to you so you could play instead of being trapped in the tyranny of work.
formerparatrooper it isn’t as simple as that. A lot of these engines cost more then a lot of cars. You don’t have to be super rich, but you have to be at least pretty well of.
@@erikschiller7210 Well, my wife and I are making do on the government Ponzi scheme and we are far from rich. I worked from age 15 and some we saved and some we played with for the enjoyment of the day. Our whole railroad was built as it stands now over 10 years for enjoyment of the day. It is not worth nothing but being a realist it is not worth more than someone would be willing to pay. It is as simple as that, and while some of these engines cost more than cars, many if not most, were built in someone's garage or basement over a period of YEARS. Pretty well off might mean someone does not play golf, or parachute, or own horses, or motor cycles, or a dozen other escapes from the tyranny of of work.
@@formerparatrooper from you first comment, I thought you were joking, but now I see this is serious. I've always adored these H10s, and I personally would love to own an oil fired roller bearing fitted version, although the price seems too far out of reach for a guy who plans to pursue voice acting as a career. Perhaps a miniature SD9 or dash 9 would be more my fit...
If you’re just getting into the hobby and want to get on the rails-being able to pull every car on the railroad isn’t a big concern.The box cabs from Pacific Design shops can be daisy chained together if you wanted extra power. One unit should easily pull 3-4 cars around a track.
@@TheSteamChannel I live in the Princeton, IL area and I’m planning on joining Illinois Live Steamers. I am also building my own 7.5” gauge live steam railroad on my 3 acre alpaca farm. I just purchased one of the Accucraft 2-4-0 “Forney” locos with tender and I would be happy to loan it for a review video as it will be at least another year before my railroad is finished and I have 2 other live steamers at the property, making the accucraft a little redundant at the moment.
Wooo.. I'd hate to find out how much that big boy costs. Could they maybe help me convert a pre-existing coal fired engine to propane fired and add in the suspension system cuz that's awesome, along with the disc brakes and roller bearings? Gonna be about as maintenance free as one of these can possibly be with all that lol
Does Godshall's Custom Machining have a TH-cam channel and how much do they charge to build a Union Pacific Big Boy, Challenger, and Northern. What's the progress on Godshall's Custom Machining's Union Pacific Big Boy #4014.
You’re talking about figures in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for Big Boy/Challenger. My educated estimate on the 844 would be a minimum starting around $80,000 and likely much higher.
I would have thought the most profitable for the steam locomotive to build miniature would be a USRA Light Mikado. Because then you can accurately cater to different railroads.
Mostly because it's a "Consolidation" type loco, which means with just a bit of facade work can put you on almost every railroad worldwide. Just picked one of the last 2-8-0s designed.
How did you find the adhesion with a un equalize locomotive? Based on the videos it doesn't look slippery however i didn't see the locomotive taking off from a stop. Nice video
Equalization in this scale really does not add to traction effort. These are sprung similar to an HO or O scale model and they have more than enough traction effort.
@@formerparatrooper my question is still not answered is it slippery? fomerparatrooper I get what your saying however all of my steam locomotives are equalized and I the locomotives that I have come across that are not equalized are slippery. Did you run a H10? How was it if you ran it?
@@johnbowdish7771 They can be slippery but carefully operation by a practiced engineer they will haul. I have seen these H-10s pull a serious train up a 3% grade. I have personally run several friend's H-10 engines with 15 cars in tow and never slipped the drivers. In reality what is more important that how much would one pull but how much braking power you have. Steam locomotives do not have dynamic braking and an engineer has to be more careful running down grade than making a steam locomotive bark going up grade. These H-10s are absolutely marvelous running engines, very stable and once you learn to fire, very powerful.
John, here is a video of running Mike's H-10 on our modest railroad. th-cam.com/video/uORYKsOyPJk/w-d-xo.html It got even better when it was run in some and now it is running like a fine watch.
Shop rate varies from $65 to over $100 an hour depending on the shop. If you paid yourself $10 an hour and it took you 3,000 hours to build one in your garage-- that's $30,000 in your own labor + tooling, material, and castings. The price of the castings can be readily found on Allen Models website. You're either going to pay for it with your time or your going to need to write a big check. Most generally take the first option.
How heavy are the 7.25" gauge locomotive? is it possible to have it on table or shelf for display? is it easy to pick them off the track to carry them around? Let me know.
One of these consolidations weigh about 900 pounds. Our electric diesels for our railroad are over 600 pounds--each. Freight cars from 120-250 pounds each.
@@formerparatrooper WOW that's pretty heavy. I remember a faculty member at my community college had steam locomotive sitting on his desk at his office. He later moved to put it on shelf and unfortunately the shelf collapsed over time.
@@asbmp Back in the early 60s I attended a trade school to learn to be a tool & die maker. I was able to get cast iron Little Engines parts and wheels for a 1" scale 4-6-2 pacific with 4-3/4" gauge track which I used to learn the trade of machining. I finished my engine during my apprenticeship years and ran it for a couple of summers. Two of us could pick it up and put it on a raised shelf so it was probably less than 250 pounds. A few modelers have 3/4" scale engines and I think they can pick them up.
@@formerparatrooper i'm originally from NM and graduated from Dona Ana Community College. I know that they manufacture and 3d print the parts for the 7.25" gauge railroads. However I've heard that metal casting is way more expensive than 3d printing
@@asbmp Oh yes, but the truth is if a live steam locomotive is wanted even the 3d printed stainless parts are not going to work. These things run on 125-130 LBS PSI boiler pressure and the weight is needed for traction effort. These are real machines, not toys.
Well, from what I’ve heard, tank engines don’t have tenders. They have onboard water tanks. And I was just curious to see if they had miniature locomotives similar to that.
@@davidhall8874 yeah I’ve been in the hobby since I’ve been little and it can be done pretty economically. If you know the right people and have the knowhow, time, and a little bit of money, it’s doable.
hello my name is ivam i live in brazil i am 69 years old i would like to receive a blueprint of the steam locomotive 4-6-2 i want to make a locomotive but i don't have the drawing
Have known and admired the skill and craftsmanship of Wayne Godshall for over 30 years. And, consider it an honor to have one of the first locomotives built by him! He has put more people on Pennsylvania RR engines than anyone else since the Baldwin and Juniata Shops have closed! If you have questions about buying his engines...just ask a man who owns one!
RIGHT ON. Absolutely right on.
I am going to say this is a pretty good bang for the buck. I don't personally own a live steam engine but I've done a lot of research and have found that smaller Locomotives like a ten wheeler can cost you over 20k and you still have to machine it. With this Locomotive it can be done to a complete running Locomotive for 40k I think they said. Now of course theres a lot of things that could vary depending on exactly how you want it built but I think that's a good deal? Just wondering what you think of that? 👍😃
Very interesting, that disc brake system is a very good idea.
I know that the is has nothing to do what I wanted, but I remember making comments in the past saying you guys should do a review on a steam engine, and it’s awesome to see one.
This is how you build a simple locomotive that still looks great!
Excellent engineering fit and finish.
Always have wanted one of these beautiful engines that have been shown on the steam channel
I love me an H10. I spenta week in the Pennsylvania railroad museum and was all over the one right in the front!
Top of the line!
Did she day $40,000?!?!?! WOW!!!!!!!
Interesting disk brake setup reminds me of lawn tractor brakes very cheeky
That's awesome!
All those old guys operating these engines are filthy rich?
No, they are people who got up in the morning and went to work. They are people who actually did more than sit in front of a telly and admire someone else's work. They are people who have a sense of enjoying the work of their hands. From your comment, I would suspect you wish they would give their earnings to you so you could play instead of being trapped in the tyranny of work.
Haha, yeah it does sure seem like it. Depending on your income and availability of machinery it may not cost as much as you think.
formerparatrooper it isn’t as simple as that. A lot of these engines cost more then a lot of cars. You don’t have to be super rich, but you have to be at least pretty well of.
@@erikschiller7210 Well, my wife and I are making do on the government Ponzi scheme and we are far from rich. I worked from age 15 and some we saved and some we played with for the enjoyment of the day. Our whole railroad was built as it stands now over 10 years for enjoyment of the day. It is not worth nothing but being a realist it is not worth more than someone would be willing to pay. It is as simple as that, and while some of these engines cost more than cars, many if not most, were built in someone's garage or basement over a period of YEARS. Pretty well off might mean someone does not play golf, or parachute, or own horses, or motor cycles, or a dozen other escapes from the tyranny of of work.
@@formerparatrooper from you first comment, I thought you were joking, but now I see this is serious. I've always adored these H10s, and I personally would love to own an oil fired roller bearing fitted version, although the price seems too far out of reach for a guy who plans to pursue voice acting as a career. Perhaps a miniature SD9 or dash 9 would be more my fit...
Great video. They are very nice looking engines but for $40K are way out of my reach Guess I'll just keep dreaming!
Cheapest diesel is $4K
Box Cab electrics can be purchased RTR for $2,300.
@@TheSteamChannel is it strong enough? i mean how many cars that boxcab can pull?
If you’re just getting into the hobby and want to get on the rails-being able to pull every car on the railroad isn’t a big concern.The box cabs from Pacific Design shops can be daisy chained together if you wanted extra power. One unit should easily pull 3-4 cars around a track.
@@TheSteamChannel what I need:
1. Design not ugly
2. Speed not too slow
3. Powerful
That's it
Do they ship these locos
Yes, at the buyers expense
very nice of a locomotive. though I have one question, what's its top speed?
Beautiful locomotive! Can you guys do a video review of the 7 1/2” gauge Accucraft ride-on live steam forney locomotive?
I don’t know anyone with that locomotive and I don’t plan to purchase one.
@@TheSteamChannel I live in the Princeton, IL area and I’m planning on joining Illinois Live Steamers. I am also building my own 7.5” gauge live steam railroad on my 3 acre alpaca farm. I just purchased one of the Accucraft 2-4-0 “Forney” locos with tender and I would be happy to loan it for a review video as it will be at least another year before my railroad is finished and I have 2 other live steamers at the property, making the accucraft a little redundant at the moment.
Shoot me an email at TheSteamChannel “@“ hotmail.com and we’ll discuss this further. Thank you
@@TheSteamChannel Sent you an email
Hey, just out of curiosity, how fast can those little engines go?
you have an type error in the Godshalls website in your info box.
I have 80 shares of UNION Pacific Corporation.
I enjoyed it.
Nice, that's like! $16 dollars.
I am planning to buy an H 10
Wooo.. I'd hate to find out how much that big boy costs. Could they maybe help me convert a pre-existing coal fired engine to propane fired and add in the suspension system cuz that's awesome, along with the disc brakes and roller bearings? Gonna be about as maintenance free as one of these can possibly be with all that lol
Does Godshall's Custom Machining have a TH-cam channel and how much do they charge to build a Union Pacific Big Boy, Challenger, and Northern. What's the progress on Godshall's Custom Machining's Union Pacific Big Boy #4014.
You’re talking about figures in the hundreds of thousands of dollars for Big Boy/Challenger. My educated estimate on the 844 would be a minimum starting around $80,000 and likely much higher.
I would have thought the most profitable for the steam locomotive to build miniature would be a USRA Light Mikado. Because then you can accurately cater to different railroads.
Mostly because it's a "Consolidation" type loco, which means with just a bit of facade work can put you on almost every railroad worldwide. Just picked one of the last 2-8-0s designed.
Godshall has a USRA heavy Mikado available. Would require a different boiler to make a light mike, but that would be doable.
How did you find the adhesion with a un equalize locomotive? Based on the videos it doesn't look slippery however i didn't see the locomotive taking off from a stop. Nice video
Equalization in this scale really does not add to traction effort. These are sprung similar to an HO or O scale model and they have more than enough traction effort.
@@formerparatrooper my question is still not answered is it slippery? fomerparatrooper I get what your saying however all of my steam locomotives are equalized and I the locomotives that I have come across that are not equalized are slippery. Did you run a H10? How was it if you ran it?
@@johnbowdish7771 They can be slippery but carefully operation by a practiced engineer they will haul. I have seen these H-10s pull a serious train up a 3% grade. I have personally run several friend's H-10 engines with 15 cars in tow and never slipped the drivers. In reality what is more important that how much would one pull but how much braking power you have. Steam locomotives do not have dynamic braking and an engineer has to be more careful running down grade than making a steam locomotive bark going up grade. These H-10s are absolutely marvelous running engines, very stable and once you learn to fire, very powerful.
John, here is a video of running Mike's H-10 on our modest railroad. th-cam.com/video/uORYKsOyPJk/w-d-xo.html It got even better when it was run in some and now it is running like a fine watch.
Please tell me where can I read your text, I can't understand by hear
The version on Facebook has closed captioning
Does anyone know how much it would cost to make a Fitchburg northern from Allen models?
Shop rate varies from $65 to over $100 an hour depending on the shop. If you paid yourself $10 an hour and it took you 3,000 hours to build one in your garage-- that's $30,000 in your own labor + tooling, material, and castings. The price of the castings can be readily found on Allen Models website. You're either going to pay for it with your time or your going to need to write a big check. Most generally take the first option.
How heavy are the 7.25" gauge locomotive? is it possible to have it on table or shelf for display? is it easy to pick them off the track to carry them around? Let me know.
One of these consolidations weigh about 900 pounds. Our electric diesels for our railroad are over 600 pounds--each. Freight cars from 120-250 pounds each.
@@formerparatrooper WOW that's pretty heavy. I remember a faculty member at my community college had steam locomotive sitting on his desk at his office. He later moved to put it on shelf and unfortunately the shelf collapsed over time.
@@asbmp Back in the early 60s I attended a trade school to learn to be a tool & die maker. I was able to get cast iron Little Engines parts and wheels for a 1" scale 4-6-2 pacific with 4-3/4" gauge track which I used to learn the trade of machining. I finished my engine during my apprenticeship years and ran it for a couple of summers. Two of us could pick it up and put it on a raised shelf so it was probably less than 250 pounds. A few modelers have 3/4" scale engines and I think they can pick them up.
@@formerparatrooper i'm originally from NM and graduated from Dona Ana Community College. I know that they manufacture and 3d print the parts for the 7.25" gauge railroads. However I've heard that metal casting is way more expensive than 3d printing
@@asbmp Oh yes, but the truth is if a live steam locomotive is wanted even the 3d printed stainless parts are not going to work. These things run on 125-130 LBS PSI boiler pressure and the weight is needed for traction effort. These are real machines, not toys.
Just out of curiosity, is this engine sold with a tank instead of a tinder? Like I mentioned before I’m just asking out of curiosity.
I’m a bit confused by the question. Are you referring to a water tank in the tender?
Well, from what I’ve heard, tank engines don’t have tenders. They have onboard water tanks. And I was just curious to see if they had miniature locomotives similar to that.
I'm sorry but that disc break system is a cop out, I'll stick with prototypical breaks thank you.
Wowowo
да вообще молодцы.
😢Too bad I don’t have the money or accommodations for 7inch live steam
A millionaire's toy.
Not necessarily. Most people build their own overaperiod of time. This is their use of their disposable cash instead of buying drugs or prostitutes.
@@davidhall8874 yeah I’ve been in the hobby since I’ve been little and it can be done pretty economically. If you know the right people and have the knowhow, time, and a little bit of money, it’s doable.
@@davidhall8874 Sounds like real experience.
They’re a lot cheaper than the truck you need to haul it around.
@@Rift45 Even more proof!!!
hello my name is ivam i live in brazil i am 69 years old i would like to receive a blueprint of the steam locomotive 4-6-2 i want to make a locomotive but i don't have the drawing
First I have to buy me a farm then a pickup truck and last the locomotive.
Joel, Joel, Joel; you’ve got it backwards.