Union Pacific 'Big Boy'
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- The Union Pacific 'Big Boy' #4005 previously owned by Tom Millar of the USA, has now made it's way to ownership by Shane Marshall of Tauranga, New Zealand. The 7.25" Big Boy #4005 originally built in the United Kingdom in 1982, has run at the Tom Millar Estate in Portland, Oregan for over three decades, before being sold and shipped to Shane in New Zealand. Here we see it running alongside 17 Scale Freight Cars, also from Tom Millar, at the Tauranga Model Marine and Engineering Society track, on November 10th 2018.
This video follows some backstory of the locomotive, the steam up process, some amazing video of the locomotive running, and the steam down process. It's not easy for #4005 weighing over 1.5 tonnes, but many hands make light work. The immaculate engineering and detailing of this 'Big Boy' contribute to making it one of the best in New Zealand, and the world!
Thanks to Shane Marshall for allowing us to video his beautiful engine, and share it in such detail. This video is shared in memory of Mike Treloar, who flew with Shane to Portland, Oregan to collect #4005 a few years back. Unfortunately, Mike lost his battle with cancer just over a year ago. He served as a big inspiration for Shane to finish re-gauging the locomotive and bringing the boiler to New Zealand codes.
To view more spectacular images of this locomotive, view our Flickr album here: bit.ly/2FjBZ51
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I think this is the coolest rich guy hobby I’ve ever seen. Forget a boat. This takes the cake.
This is actually cheaper than boats.
The Union Pacific "Big Boy" is an engineering marvel. This model is no less. The details on such a scale are astonishing. Simply beautiful.
Can't begin to imagine the maticulous hours spent building this model, let alone maintaining and running it for so many years.
4:25 that bell roll tho
SPEEEEEEEN!
It was spinning so fast it started to look like a misshapen sphere
the bell lives in spain but without the a
36,000* turn.
bro i did not just find you in this video hahaha
Just think, here in the States we'll have the 1:1 scale version of sister loco 4014 running soon!
Will be a sight to behold for sure. Will have to go someday to see her running.
Can't wait for March 10th.
Conrail 1634 I doubt they’re going to finish it on time. They’re certainly making progress, but Ed is very careful and methodical, which is never a bad thing. He wants it done exactly right and won’t make any sacrifices whatsoever to save time.
Amtrak In O Scale Yes! Methodical is a VERY good thing, particularly in the case of 4014 - it’s been sitting over 40 years, AND is being converted to oil firing - we certainly don’t want something to go wrong with that large of a boiler, to say the least!
Jim Talbott Exactly, and that’s not including the fact that UP actually has attempted to convert a Big Boy to oil once before, with unfavorable results. It will be no small feat to convert 4014.
I love it how train blokes looks the same the world over. Always the look about a true enthusiast. Also that model is an absolute wonder. Kudos to the those who built it and those who keep her going now in NZ.
The real 4005 was the only Big Boy to ever derail in revenue service. A misaligned switch by a track worker sent her tumbling onto her right side. She was ultimately repaired and returned to service, and is preserved at the Forney Museum in Colorado.
Cool
Isn't 4005 sitting on static display in Cheyenne? or is the 4006?
@@3RTracing actually it's UP 4004 on display, 4005 is in a museum in denver CO
@@Juggernogger64 Yeah, 4004 is in Cheyenne, 4005 is in Colorado, and 4006 is in Missouri
spit my coffee out when i heard #4005
Good to see 4005 Big Boy model is still serving its owner well. I was the pattern maker working for the company involved in the building of the model in the eighties, in the UK and its good to read the comments regarding the workmanship
Are you not upset they’ve butchered it to fit their odd track?
@johntipton9023 do you happen to still have the plans or know where someone could get it?
You and your colleagues did some very fine work on this machine. Bravo.
@@ComputerExplodes Doesn't look butchered to me!!
We’ve seen 4014 here in the US operating on excursion runs but this thing is so technically impressive at this scale! Amazing!!
I too had the privilege of ridding behind this at Dobwalls, Cornwall UK. The Dodwalls track had considerable inclines as well as tunnels and the smaller locos had to work quite hard pulling upwards of 50 people. Compared to other narrow gauge style locos the Big Boy looked quite small but of course with great length and it had little difficulty setting off with even more people (every body wanted to ride!) with just a modest beat. It was coal fired then and seeing the fire being dropped at the end of the day was quite a sight.
Nice to see it still looking in such perfect condition.
The locomotive that ran at Dobwalls at the sister engine, #4008, NOT this locomotive #4005. But yes, it was a similar beast, now lives in Australia I hear.
When the live steam model receives as much care as her full size sister getting rebuilt in Cheyenne...
Agreed! Blew me away the detail and care that has gone into this locomotive over it's 40+ years of life.
You’re dissing UP steam?
I saw this locomotive in 1994. It was during the NMRA National Convention at Portland, Oregon. We were told that ours was the first public group to be allowed to visit.
Tom couldn’t find a US builder willing to take on a project as large and as time consuming as the Big Boy. An outfit in England accepted the challenge. It took two years to complete the project. He visited the build a couple of times a year.
Not including shipping and handling, the locomotive cost $250,000.
It was packed into a 20 foot shipping container for the trip to New Jersey. From there it was trucked to Oregon.
The Big Boy was pulling a 40 car PFE reefer train.
The railroad itself was rather impressive. He said that you should expect to get some strange looks when you apply for a permit to build a 410’ long tunnel on your property, with a vertical air shaft halfway through...
They just figured that he some sort of survivalist. Next was a 400 foot long bridge that was 18 feet high, and crossing a small stream.
His workshop had digital controlled drill presses and at least one digital lathe. Everyone in the group was in awe because this was not your normal home work shop in 1994.
We saw the beginnings of a K-36, 7 1/2” gauge and 2.5” scale.
Tom wasn’t satisfied with the coal available in the US. He determined how much coal he would need for the rest of his life, and ordered twice as much as he needed.
He imported a 20 foot container full of coal. He kept half. He sold 5lb bags of the extra coal via mail order. The income paid for all of the coal.
He did not like the rail to tie fasteners available at the time, so he invented a better one.
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Thanks for the information mate! Really fascinating history behind this locomotive and Tom Millar.
The Tom Miller (MILLER) Big Boy is oil fired. It was air freighted from England to California in 1982 and ran at the LALS track. It only went to Oregon later.
I would love to see this beautiful engine up close and talk to the people who built it. Absolutely beautiful. I'm old enough to have seen them used as helpers going up Weber Canyon in Utah.
4004 was my play toy! I grew up in Cheyenne Wyoming and my Brother In Law William Bill Riley Sr operated out of NP Nebraska dedicated runs to Cheyenne Wyoming!! He even operated 8444 before she became 844 that you see today!! My dear Brother Bill Posthumously received the extremely Rare Golden Spike Award! You can see more,much more at the Golden Spike Museum in Bailey Yard North Platte Nebraska
This video is incredible! Thank you for sharing this video with us and the history!!
Yes us kids would love to ring the bell on 4004 Big Boy Steam Locomotive long ago Prior the days of fenced off!
They 8444 was originally 844, switched to 8444 when a diesel was given the number. After the diesel was retired, she got her number back.
The locomotive was built by Severn Lamb in Straford-upon-Avon, England. A group of friends and I were able to visit their workshops in 1982 and saw 4005 almost complete up close and personal. It's a seriously impressive machine.
Just think when 4014 takes her first breath the world will seem a little happier. I salute Union Pacific and all those men and women involved in her restoration 🚂🚂👍👍
Awesome. A bit of Big Boy trivia for the #4005. The #4005 is the only Big Boy out of the 25 built which was involved in a derailment crash in 1953. The locomotive, tender, and first 18 cars derailed killing the engineer and firemen. The #4005 was restored and placed back in revenue service.
Man this video brings back some childhood memories. I grew up in England and when I was 6 or 7 years old this locomotives sister 4008 was running at 'Dobwalls Adventure Park' in Cornwall, UK. I don't know what happened to 4008 but its great to see 4005 in gleaming running order. Can't beat a bit of nostalgia :)
I believe 4008 is now privately owned in Australia, near the Diamond Valley Railway. It sure is a great piece of engineering!
I work for union Pacific, can't wait to see 4014 go by our yard someday. Very nice piece you have down there
I really like how they seem to capture the deep tone of the full size big boy whistle .
Nice to see Big Boy has fans outside the US.
It sure does! Drew quite the crowd on the day, a few of which will likely make the trip to see #4014 on her first excursion this year.
That whistle on the live steam model sounds beautiful. Nice video!
The 4005 is a tribute to all involved, from the original designers and builders of the prototype that inspired this fine model to those who work and maintain her today.
Agreed, it's in a league of its own when it comes to locomotives of this size, but still a tribute to those as you mentioned.
Excellent production, what an amazing locomotive, and to see all that scale rolling stock is a privilege.
Thanks Grant. Yes, it was definitely something well worth the trip to see!
Many fond memories of riding behind this beautiful masterpiece at Tom's place... so nice to see it finally back up and running. I must admit some sadness at knowing I will likely never set my own eyes upon it again, or any of the other magnificent collection.
It has found a caring owner here in New Zealand. I can understand you're point, but Tom's legacy of locomotives has now spread much further abroad, and is on show to much more of the world too.
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His creations will live on and bring joy to many around the world.. We had our turn enjoying all of Tom's trains, now its time for the rest of the world. So nice to see it back in action.
Great way to word it mate, the Big Boy really showed what's possible in Model Engineering, and his beautiful K-36 #482 owned by Ian Welch in Wellington, New Zealand has brought a smile to almost everyone whos driven it, some as young as 8 here in New Zealand. Really awesome to see.
@@ValveGearProductions WHY did you say it was built in the U.K.? I thought Mr. Miller built it from scratch in the U.S.A.???
@@jenniferwhitewolf3784 - Are you in the U.S.? There are several of the old Big Boys on display throughout the country. Most people can't even imagine how big, and especially how heavy, these behemoths are. HUGE!
Since the original locomotive is being rebuilt, UP will forever have updated blueprints of it now. 👍👍
The real UP 4005 lives at the Forney Transportation Museum in Denver, CO. I've seen it several times, and even dormant the Big Boy remains an impressive machine!
The dent marks on the left side of the real one at Forney are still there from the accident it sustained from in 1953.
@Black Toof - "Original?" ALL UP "Big Boys" are original. No new ones have been constructed.
@Black Toof What are you talking about? He is talking about the 17 dormant 4000 class locomotives. Not the restored 4014...
What Black Toof means is that he saw 4004 in Cheyenne WY (missing out on 4014) then he travelled to Denver CO and saw 4005, then to St.Louis MO and saw 4006, on to Scranton PA where he came across 4012, then to Green Bay WI where he saw 4017, to Frisco TX where he saw 4018 and then finally ended up at Omaha NB to find 4023 there. All the time he thought that it was the same loco that was being moved around all over the place.
Nice to see it in a new home and very appreciated.
Agreed, has a caring owner who is willing to look after it and learn.
An absolutely brilliant model of the great giant! Thanks for sharing.
One of the amazing things to me is... that the originals were designed and built using slide rules and skilled machinists. No computers involved at all.
computers have enhanced a lot of things humans do. But they have also become a crutch for intelligence and study. I don't even know how i survived without google to tell me the answer to every question. There are even career fields where you rely on google for everything (*cough* programming *cough*). Few humans aside from total retro nerds would even know what a slide rule was if they saw one, much less how to use it to perform manual calculations. and machinists... there are not many true machinists left. most of them just punch up some numbers on the control box and let the machine take it from there. they wouldn't know how to go about machining up raw castings into high precision parts unless they were starting with a huge block of aluminum and a CAD model.
I rode behind this many times as a kid in Dobwalls Cornwall, im glad to see it being used again
The Dobwalls loco was sister engine 4008, apparently now in Diamond valley rly, Australia. Both built at the same time by Severn-Lamb
Spectacle sounds about right, this locomotive #4005 was not run at Dobwalls, instead, going to Tom Millar but indeed build by Severn-Lamb.
Nice to see the "Spokane, Portland,& Seattle" car in your collection.
I was living in NE Washington and N Idaho when the SP&S was abandoned. I can remember seeing SP&S trains in Sandpoint, Idaho. Next time the tracks were gone, the ROW paved as a Rails-to-Trails path.
I like how this even has an actual steam whistle.
Great ! Very realistic model . ❤ From India
Thanks for the tremendous support on the video. I just wanted to clarify that this is NOT the 'Big Boy' that ran many years ago at Dobwalls in the United Kingdom. That was #4008, the sister locomotive to #4005 and was a slightly larger scale too, but both were built by Severn-Lamb. Also, I am aware that this is neither the biggest nor most powerful locomotive in the world, or even the United States. My wording in the narration at the beginning of the video was not the best, my apologies.
Enjoy the video!
4008 is in Australia in pieces after the driver ran it out of water and wrecked the boiler.
@@TrevorHeathWhat a shame will it be fixed??
@@nashguy207 Well, it happened 5+ years ago. Not so far.....
What's bigger this thing is huge it weighs 600 tons and is and has to be bigger than any other locomotive ever built the only thing is it's not the most powerful the blue ridge 2 6 6 6 alkangey or something like that with 7500 hp
That was good to see. Hope to see it live soon
Watching during COVID outbreak, helps keep my mind off the bad, and the pain, thank you for your content!
WOW. A lot of kilometers on that engine from the UK to US to NZ plus all the decades running on rails. Superb video. RIP, Mike Treloar...
That is a work of art. And New Zealand looks so much like where I grew up, the San Francisco bay area. You're so very fortunate to have such a beautiful place and amazing collection!
Indeed, a fabulous track and area, right on the waterfront!
Wow, how nice to engineer that fantastic locomotive. Brilliant.
It pleases me to see that such machines are kept operating by dedicated folks such as those shown here, and all the others behind the scenes.
It was amazing seeing the many hands that pitched in during the day to make this possible, from those who brought some of the wagons to the track, to those helping switch points, and everything in between. Many hands make light work, and it was worthwhile for this particular day.
Aw man this model is a fking beauty, wish I could see it in person
Excellent training. Cheers!
The Union Pacific railroad has restored the Big Boy #4014 back into operation and made to run on oil, not coal. Yes, they were some of the biggest and most powerful steam locomotives ever built. The Big Boys were also had a hand in moving military equipment across the states in WWII over the Rocky Mountains near the west coast.
An amazing piece of work. Congratulations.
Yeah, you got me, but this is one time I'm not going to scream clickbait. This is amazing!
RIP Mike...I didn't know you, but I'll bless you nonetheless Mate!! May your boiler always be full of steam & the tracks ahead always clear & straight. GOD BLESS from Texas!!
This is an amazing model!! Now, you need a 7.25" model of the DM&IR Yellowstone and the C&O Allegheny.
Thanks for the awesome video. What a great engine. Hard to believe that someone could make this Big Boy to this scale. Wow, I really enjoyed this.
Today the big boy is running. It is unbelievable. Never thought it could happen but it did. This scale down model sounds a lot like her except bigger.
Wow wow impressive in small scale. I would fly to New Zealand to see this.
Absolutely fantastic!!! What a beautiful reproduction of a great locomotive!!!
That is one beautiful train. What amazing detail.
that... is a beauty.. thank you for posting this video... please make more showcasing this big boy.
Very nice replica of the 1 to 1 scale sitting in the museum were I volunteer. TTU - two thumbs up
What a beautiful work! Thanks for the video.
No worries mate, all for fun. Thanks for watching :)
What a wonderful piece of engineering. If there medals for such things, the builder should get the gold one.
She's a model? Not! She's just a scaled down 4000 and a very beautiful piece of engineering. Thank you for sharing this video.
This. Was. Wonderful.
Awesome video! I LOVE this train!
Hi , My locomotive featured in this video was built by Severn Lamb.It was commissioned by Tom Miller who supervised its construction with photos of the full size locomotive to insure the loco was a true replica.The scale is 1.6.It is not the locomotive that ran at Dobwells which I understand is 2.5 scale and is an out line only with not as much detail.I am truly honored to be the new custodian of this beautiful locomotive.Thankyou for watching.Cheers Shane Marshall.
Absolutely beautiful. It looks almost exactly like the real deal! It just needs to be enlarged to standard gauge and it'll be perfect! :)
As if it was left in the dryer for too long, retains all the detail just at smaller size. Really a beautiful machine!
There will be a standard-gauge Big Boy running in 2019. Can't wait for 4014 to be finished!
It is the fourth dimension of Locomotive engineering, Absolutely fabulous!
Nice job Corban. Even has proof that I have driven it even if it was in reverse.
Indeed Murray! Being in the drivers seat alone is something special.
Beautiful! Love to see vid of 4005 running without humans!! Visited the real #4005 in Denver Colorado. Cheers!
Fabulous. I was privileged to see the full size #4005 in the Forney Museum of Transportation in Denver, CO in May 2018. What a mammoth machine. I was also lucky enough to see #4014 being restored in the UP Steamshop in Cheyenne, WY, also in May. I’ll now have to cross the pond from Sydney to see your magnificent machine in action.
Crosshead1 me 2 forney museum is great what a size the real 4005 is unbelievable
I will have to save enough to travel over to the USA at some point, some of the trains over there look amazing. Cheers :)
I liked the video but I originally thought the real one was on tour in New Zealand
Nope, on display at Forney Transportation Museum here in Denver, Colorado, USA. It's left side has dent marks from an accident in 1953.
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@@railroadmillion681 #4005 was involved in this accident a long time ago. How it started was that the locomotive was pulling 62 freight cars. While traveling at 50 miles per hour, she jumped the switch track in Cheyenne. She landed on her left side and the driver and fireman died on impact. 18 of the 62 cars came in crashing and toppling one another and the tender destroyed the cab. An emergency torpedo was launched to warn trains to not approach the site. The brakeman survived the crash, but he died from severe burns a few days later. The locomotive was repaired at the Cheyenne facility in Wyoming and brought here in Denver, Colorado where it is now on display inside of a large window at the Forney Transportation Museum.
The real 4005 is at the Forney museum in Denver Colorado. If I remember right 4004 is at Holiday Park in Cheyenne. 4014 is being restored hopefully to be running for May 2019 the 150 anniversary of the transcontinental railroad, hope they make it.
4014 will breath fire once again for the first time in more then 60 year's this year actually.
Eeyup! Soon the world will bear witness to the mighty Big Boy's return to the rail's here in America.
And with the Union Pacific Challenger 3985 by her side, it will be safe to say that the American giant's are back!
Hi guys at VGP , Many Thanks for sharing your video on this massive ( scaled down ) loco it "is" impressive to say the least ; I just would like to mention that a loco that's in the background of your video shot at the 13:38 mark ( near the end of your clip ) was actually made in Perth Western Australia & called the "Oakford Express" & is owned by a person called Russell , if you happen to re-visit this miniature railway that's in this video - please find Russell & say Hi from Kevin in W.A. as I'm in charge of the Cohunu Park miniature Railway where his loco used to run quite some time ago ; keep up the great work!
Very nice and accurate model of the original giant. Congratulations to the New Zelander team for the maintenance of the train.
Awesome locomotive!!
Thank you!
Well done video, much appreciated!
Cheers John
Great video...wonderful piece of history...The 4014 will be ready pretty soon state side!!! Make my day!
That is beautiful! Good luck with your new locomotive!
Awesome , Thanks
Absolutely amazing beast, and in beautiful New Zealand no less. I've seen Big Boys in LA (4014 before restoration), Cheyenne and at Steamtown in both Bellows Falls and now in Scranton, PA.
Cheers mate, indeed the Big Boys are marvels of engineering.
I have been in the cab of 4012 at Steamtown in Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Man it's cool as hell that the whistle is exactly the same
Wonderful; model of a truly inspiring prototype.
Absolute fantastic
amazing work
The level of detail on this model is unbelievable, up to the exact copies of the butterfly fire doors and the shutters over the stack.
No concessions have been made to improve ease of operation as a model, all is almost to the exact scale.
In operation the sound of the exhaust and the whistle match perfect to the impression of mass and power the model makes.
extraordinaire !! très belle réalisation !! félicitation vraiment !
Loving this
5:02 That whistle actually sounds Accurate.
Very impressive. Looks just like the real thing.
That's really a beautiful train, very large.
Great video of a mammoth machine. Thanks for sharing. I liked and subbed to your channel. Happy New Years
Cheers mate, have a good new year!
Valve Gear Productions thanks. 😃
Gotta say the whistle sounds amazing
Amazing!
The replication of detail is so perfect my mind is bent! Not a model but a smaller real one.
The detail from the original builder and the level of care demonstrated is unprecedented, unlike anything I've ever seen before.
I have to agree. That accuracy of this locomotive coupled with her size is mind bending. A small 4000. Not a model.
Very nice whistle it sounds like the real one but more quiet and not as rough
NICE VID!!
I HOPE TO BE AT CHEYENNE FOR THE FIRST RUN OF 4014!!
KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!!
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Gorgeous!
Happy New Year very nice looking locomotive.
Absolutely Beautiful!
Made in England I believe
A beautiful Locomotive
So cool!
I know there scale models but so cool to see Spokane Portland seattle and Norfolk western soo line on the other side of the world.
A SUPERB MODEL , LOOKS BETTER THAN THE LEAR ONE.
I must say, that is one lucky conductor!
Magnifique !
That is really cool
Depends how you rate "powerful." For a combination of size, tractive effort and speed (80 mph) the "Big Boy" had few rivals.
C&O 2-6-6-6
Generally higher TE was low speed pusher/helper/banking locomotives.
This model is superb!
My dad, now passed said they have the old steam loco’s in the Smithsonian Museum He told me that just standing by the wheels were hugh.