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Stop practicing rudiments…until you’ve mastered THIS technique first. What technique am I talking about? I’m talking about the most important, fundamental drumming technique that is so often overlooked. Without having this technique under your belt, you could practice rudiments for years and never be able to achieve the results you desire. Make sure that you’re “playing with a full deck” and using your hands and fingers to the best of your ability. When your technique is squared away, the rudiments will fall into place naturally. This isn’t rocket science - just some simple steps to patiently work on in your practicing. This is just another one of those really non glamorous videos that isn’t very exciting at all. But I guarantee you that by circling back to these basics, you will save time and frustration in your practicing. I’ve found this to always be true in my practicing and growing as a player.
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Dude. Thanks so much!
Thanx from. Malaysia
Simple yet clearer
The link doesn’t work anymore. Loving your training videos btw 🙂
Where that link go? I needs it man.
As someone who has never even been around drummers, let alone taken classes, and thus has to pick up the technique on his own, those slow-motion close-ups are invaluable.
Yep, well said.
Exactly! It was interesting to see that he almost let go of the stick with his thumb and pointer finger as he caught the back of the stick with his other fingers..what to do with your damn fingers is something that I don’t see a lot of
I can’t believe that I actually understand what I have to do now. I’ve been looking for this slow mo for a few days because I thought the exact same thing you did. VERY resourceful. I can actually do doubles after just seeing how to push back with my 3 fingers.
Been looking for this video for a long time. Agreed, the slow motion was the key. My left (non dominant) hand doesn't have that natural bounce in it and was very wrist driven. Looking forward to sitting down and working on this for a while!
AGREE
I’m a self taught “drummer”... never bothered to learn rudiments, went straight into playing advanced stuff. Biggest mistake I’ve ever made. My skill set is all over the place. There is some basic stuff I struggle with and some advanced stuff I find easy. It really limits you. My right hand is so much faster than my left. PRACTICE YOUR RUDIMENTS
Thank you! I am exactly like you! Sometimes I feel so stupid that I am even struggling basic stuff
@@GojiraMaggot666 literally same lmao
Makes 3 of us. I been playing in a covers band for 10 years and can’t even to double strokes well. Right hand more advanced than left also. The slow mo is great in this video and I’m now working hard on my doubles.
@@bigdrummerboy777 practicing doubles with a metronome and just getting into that flow/trance state for an hour levelled up my left hand like crazy. Within a couple weeks I was comfortable adding subdivisions wherever during improv.
Yeah left hand is mostly like left foot in soccer game.. it sucks
200 million drum videos on TH-cam and in 6 min this guy shows you what 99.9% of the drummers currently playing don’t know. Thank you for this video.
Absolutely applicable and I have been playing for 53 years.. Never too old to learn.. thank you.. love this channel :)
Agreed.
+Bill Bacon Amen Brother, AMEN!
Like a fine wine lol..
Thanks Bill. Im 54..I have played since I was 12 years old [42 years now] but stopped 2 years ago. And I wasnt sure if I could 'get back in the saddle'. I think Ill use this to get me back in shape ... Thats for the encouragement ! :)
Played 34 years ... last week re-discovered Rock after years of Jazz. Thanks Dream Theater ....
I love this video. I played doubles for 8 months and I couldn't realize why they were not coming out good. After going back and practicing fundamentals like moeller, rebound, finger control, hitting with the wrists, and playing with relaxed hands (in both left and right hands) I am much more confident in not just my ability to play a single stroke roll but playing anything on the drum set. Developing good technique is key for being able to play consistently and fluidly. Thanks Stephen! Wish I could have watched this video sooner but to be honest failing is all part of the learning process.
Hi Stephen, I am a self taught drummer for past 2 years. This lesson was amazing. All I ever heard was wrist, wrist, wrist, and have never been shown finger control. Thank You so much. You have really changed my whole way of drumming!!!!
Friend, of the many videos I've watched on how to drum (very beginner here) yours is the one that offered the best instruction so far. All these other pros out there that claim to be great teachers are quick to show us all the fancy moves - when the majority of us can't even properly hold a stick. Your double stroke is such a fundamental, important lesson. Thanks for giving us the slow-mo of it. Couldn't have figured it out otherwise. Wish I had seen your video a while back, would have saved me a ton of frustration and I"d be further ahead by now. Thanks for this.
PS: really hard to get the left hand to keep up. It goes all over the place and I can hardly get the stick to rebound when moving it around the toms. Much practice ahead for me. But at least now I'm on the way to making real progress. Not to mention my hits sound so much better now. Many thanks.
I came here from a rudiments video getting increasingly frustrated, then saw your vid and watched it, made everything so much better! Thank you
Man, this is amazingly helpful. I still can't believe guys like this guy would be willing to spend time and energy and share knowledge like this for free to learning drummers like myself! He needs more subscribers!
Dude you are the best teacher ever!!!! I've been playing for a while even semi-professionally and stopped for years - just started again and want to relearn everything and i'm LOVING your videos thank you!!
Thank you, I stopped playing for 20 years and just got back into it. This is exactly what I needed to see.
I'd say 2 biggest reasons for overemphasis on rudiments-in-isolation is they're "low bandwidth" for teachers ("did you do page 3 of Stick Control for this week?"), and they play into the "fast-hands-are-all-that's-important" mythology, sort of like people who only do bench and bis at the gym. Figuring out what actually works takes work. Great lesson!
Rudiments also help a lot with coming up with original fills and beats and stuff. 90% of drummers just play singles all over the kit. If you break up a paradiddle the possibilities are endless. I personally love the 5 stroke roll. I throw those in everywhere
I really appreciate the slow mo. I've been trying to analyze my rebound and although I've watched many other videos no one has taken the effort to do slow mo.
Too many drummers are obsessed with rudiments? Man....getting my students to practice rudiments was like pulling teeth. I wish I could find students who would put the time in on rudiments. Everyone wants to be Neil Peart in 2 weeks and they get bored with anything except playing songs.
To some extent, you learn proper technique WHILE learning rudiments. Technique developed because of how the rudiments need to be played. I do think it’s important to embed technical development in the musical devices that drove it. But I also agree that it’s important to make sure proper technique is being achieved before moving on.
This is definitely valid, I've tried to help many drummers but they don't wanna do anything but jam.
Joel Stucki I think this really depends on the stage of a student. This exercise is for students who really want to master the hands. For most of the normal students it is just to boring. That is okay, they want to have fun and play music.
I didn't start practicing drum rudiments until I saw Thomas Lang on drumeo. Dude can do anything hands or feet.
What got me going is left hand leading practice. The barrier to good rudiments and good drumming is getting your left hand (or right if you are lefty) up to the same caliber as the leading arm.
Paul Cavaciuti most drummers only know a few rudiments. That is what holds them back.
Same here!
Day 2 practicing this and I am seeing and hearing improvement. This why I watch my unglam Drum Coach vids . THEY WORK !!
As a drummer who's played thousands of hours for pay, then stopped playing for fifteen years and gotten really out of shape, I can attest to this 100%! You gotta have clean fundamentals or else the rest won't work out well. I'm getting back into getting my hands together, and this is golden advice.
Each minute we spend in front of the computer we`re not ''living'' it ''activelly''. Stephen makes the time spent watching him worth. Significant information, for our significant time, light, fun and always humble. Kudos
The slow motion is next level
Thanks
Absolutely
Self taught drummer returning to the craft after a 15 yr hiatus. I realise now how much I don't know. This channel is priceless. Thanks Stephen 🥁
Play rudiments, don't do it, use your fingers, play with music, three hours per day, just 30 minutes, and so on. I don't even know what is real anymore...
Nothing is real 😮
What is real is starting at step one: How to hold the sticks, make a down stroke, let the stick rebound. Then put both hands together and play R.L.R.L. for ever. Play your drum kit and forget everything you've been practicing, then go back and practice some more until you don't have to think about it. The amount of time you practice is only relevant if you improve. If it takes 30 mins. to do an exercise competently, fine. If it take 45 mins. Fine. Etc., etc. I will guarantee you that if you practice 30 mins. a day it will take you years to accomplish what it would take you in half the time if you practiced 1 hour a day. That's assuming it was focused uninterrupted practice. At one point I was practicing 4-6 hrs. a day, rehearsing twice a week and gigging 5-8 times a week. I got better quickly. In 2 yrs., if I could think of it I could play it. You don't have to have that level of commitment to be a competent drummer but you do have to put in the time and have the proper technique. It helps if you have access to a good teacher. If there's a symphony orch. near you, you'll fine a good teacher there.
Man, you just started a bigger argument than normal😂😂😂😂!
You are exactly right! It works this way with everything in life. It's just like math...you have start with arithmetic, then move up to algebra and trigonometry before you can begin working on becoming good at advanced calculus. We should all think about our dumming skill progression the same way.
Great video!
You have no idea how valueable this information is to me. Honestly. A lot of frustrations I've had has disappeared because of this one tutorial.
THANK YOU!!!
Thank you so much for this video, it helped me a lot. I spent like around one whole week searching for the apt video that could help me figure out what in the world i was doing wrong that i was not even able to play double stroke rolls smoothly. This was the video that made me understand! Btw i love your channel
Most underrated drum related channel
Underrated by whom?
People who's ratings you respect?
I totally disagree.
This channel is rated perfectly!
Very non glamorous...and valuable.
pssss
Na, rdavidr is better.
I think the point is that given how good the content is, you might expect the channel would have more subscriptions and views. I share that perspective.
im 14 and im quite new to drumming so hearing that my rebound is good makes me glad :) thankx u!
This level of detail of hand mechanics is exactly what I have been looking for. I'd love to see even more on grip and finger motion during these simplest strokes.
Thanks!
Man, after playing for 30 years It has become massively apparent to me that I've been gripping those sticks way too tight and I've been hitting way too hard to even think about relaxation and controlled doubles.. this video and around 4 - 5 hours of practice of this relaxed grip technique is changing the way I play and has opened up the whole kit to me! I wish this had been rule number 2 taught to me all those years ago! Rule number 1 being how to hold the sticks. Bravo!
I’ve been playing drums my entire life, and have always had a weak left hand. This video made me realize I need to relearn the basic technique and work that hand out from the ground up.
I've thought about this a lot when I've been practicing rudiments. This really confirmed and cleared a lot of stuff for me.
Great vid man, thanks
Stephen, thank you. This kind of great, kind, practical instruction is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm self-taught and have played all my life without any instruction quietly wishing I could improve but ignoring my resistance to learning. To look at the basics, which I never learned properly, at this point in my drumming history is an exercise in ego release. However, your energy and non-shaming approach help me surrender and take the information in. I look forward to getting a practice pad (my first one) and seeing what can happen with some focus. I'm 57 and have been playing all my adult life. It comes from my soul and is simple but my playing conveys my spirit and emotion but there are many times I just wish I could do a good kick double without feeling like I'm jumping off a cliff wondering if my chute will open. I will be checking out more of your video's, this is very very good. Thanks again! Jim
Oh that ego, it refuses to let go. But just imagine how much more it can brag once you nail your basics! :)
I am 42 years old and about learn to play drum.I am so lucky to find this genius basic method.Warm regards from Indonesia to you.Thanx bro
Thanks so much for this channel! I am an elementary music teacher. I never studied percussion, but I play piano. Suddenly I have a student who wants to learn drums. I can’t get find anyone else to take on this responsibility so we are going to learn together, using a beginning band book and TH-cam. Again, thank you so much! I would be lost without your channel.
he is exactly right ... I spent years going through all of these rudiments and wondered why I could not play them fast .. even though I practiced them every day.. Was not until I started working on finger technique that I finally got that speed I was working towards. Very slow process but so worth it !
thank you Stephen. Yes even though I've been drumming for over 54 years, this technique is something I'm always working on which would also include my grip.
Man I love you, I never really learned rudiments due to being self taught, this is the best video I have ever seen regarding playing doubles etc. Honestly I will be showing people this video. Love from Liverpool England 🤘
Just found you and your channel and loving it. I've been playing for 45 years, self taught, and starting all over with you as my guide!! Thank you!!
Man you are so Right! Ive been playin drums 16 years now and i started doing this 3 years ago and really change my sound and my drumming. You have to feel that your hand muscles are working out and when tired rest a couple minutes and right back on it! Great video man
fully agree from my own experience. If those basics are in place,natural, smoothly then you might be surprised how quickly everything else on the kit gets to another level.
yea but if I wanna become a jazz then I gotstsa practice my paradiddleparaparaparadiddleediddlediddlediddles
In reality though, ya gotta swing boi!
Chromatic Swing true that, set up the band
So you gotta practice your... RLRRLRLRLRLLRRLLRR's?
With drags
😂
thanks man. slow motion really shows clearly how the technique works. subbed!
I’m confused by a lot of these comments about rudiments being hand training. Rudiments are almost exclusively brain training, in my opinion. If you’ve ever worked through George Lawrence Stone’s “Stick Control,” you know that it’s not your hands holing you back from unfamiliar patterns of singles, doubles, and flams. It’s your mind that holds you back. In my experience, working through these roadblocks and wrapping your head around many combinations is what allows you to eventually have your musical brain lead your playing, rather than “muscle memory.” To be clear, I think this video is absolutely valid and proper technique is hugely important. Keep making more!
Great video on the basics. The slo mo break down is really helpful.
like the slow motion part...and so happy to find this tutorial...I'm a beginner and I needed a simple and effective vision of practice paradiddle on a drumpad.thank you so much
I started taking drum lessons in 1981 and I worked hard on rudiments (superior degree in 1987 at one of the best drum schools in Paris) and you know what ? No teacher ever taught me proper hand technique !
I found out about Moller technique and how to use rebound 3 years ago thanks to TH-cam and it competely changed my way of drumming. Playing loose and using rebound has got me to lightning speed level on singles, doubles, triplets and paradidles. Also same thing for foot technique.
It's gotten real easy to play drums at fast tempos and my grooves are sooooooo much better so follow this guys advice and get back to basics, it'll change your drumming for life.
Steven Tracy It’s all about free stroke technique as joe morello used to learn to a lot of top players
@@normandydrumstudios Yup, and it's George Lawrence STONE who taught Joe MORELLO with his "Stick Control" method published in 1935...
I remember reading an interview with some old-time drummer who had managed to talk Billy Gladstone (a drumming legend from the Thirties and Forties) into giving him a lesson.
And it consisted, entirely, of what you're covering here: getting the most basic, fundamental techniques of stick control as absolutely perfect as possible.
Hands down the most understanding channel on youtube. Love the way that the teqnique is broken down
Yes this channel is great! No fluff, just the stuff you need!
Love this advice especially the slow mo. I’m late to drumming (60) but loving it! I just want to be as good as I can and have fun in the process. Going to treat myself to a Carlsbro csd600 in January, can’t wait.
Thanks once again, very much appreciated
I think you're my favorite channel about drums now
Way to break it down. Answered some big glaring questions for me!! Thank you so much.
When the combination of looseness and hand control occurs - playing the drums and letting it flow becomes JOYOUS! Thank you for the slo-mo.
Good lesson. I'm 63 and a pretty basic drummer trying to improve but it's been really slow. I don't have a teacher but watch drumeo and other videos to try and improve. Progress has been really slow so I hope watching these videos and starting basics will help. Thanks.
I've been playing for 30 years and this one tip just unlocked all my frustrations. Mind blown. By the way, only took lessons in middle school and high school. I have somehow made it through life without this technique. I'll start asap. Thank you
Perfeito!!! Quando fica 10 anos sem tocar e compra uma batera, sentirá isso na hora.
The video footage is very much needed especially the slo-mo footage. Keep that coming and thank you for the efforts Stephen
This is very true. I was playing 6 stroke patterns with a weak left for 20 years!
Yes, you are spot in this lesson... Well done... Rebounding loose and relaxed properly is really important and key to further development... I love the way you slow things down to show the technique in detail...
It's amazing that I come across this video today, because the main message here is exactly what my teacher covered in my lesson yesterday.
He also told me to make sure I get the technique first and then work on speed, because going for speed in lieu of technique will slow my progress in the long term.
The slo mo really helps
Honestly this video has been a bit of a revelation for me. I've struggled for a long time to really improve my paradiddle speed, and now I see it's because I was trying to do it all via the wrist. The slow-mo video of the finger technique is so useful, as I've never been sure how to apply it properly
As a sidenote, this video also helped me finish decorating my back bedroom. Weird huh?
But my kit and practice pads have all been packed away while I decorate, but that's been dragging on for weeks.
When I saw this video I had an overwhelming urge to practice again, and to do that I had to finally finish decorating :-)
Thanks!
all of the most valuable drumming tips i've ever got was from your channel. i love how honest your content is. we sure had enough of all the crazy lick breakdowns and crazy affirmatives to learn fast and develop (quickly) speed and all that.
the more non-glamourous the content, the better it is for me hahah. keep going, man!
100% agree mate! I think it's also worth mentioning, there are multiple techniques, and it's worth learning the theory of them all and then experimenting to find which one you feel most natural and comfortable playing! 🤘🏻
So true Stephen! I used to work on all the crazy rudiments and then realized I was wasting a lot of time trying to make the strokes even because hadn't perfected the basics. This is one of my favorite videos on your channel.👍
This, in combination with a rob brown, and Bruce Becker video shaped me more in one week than I had developed in years.
Master class Stephen ! Going on 6 months playing drums at my 56YO - child's dream come true - and your advise is amazingly appreciated it ! I wrote a bad review about starting with a practice pad....but how right on cue you were (but seeing my drum kit and playing with it still beats me just starting with a pad)
I'm 46yrs young ☺ I decided I wanted to learn how to play the drums. I've look at a lot of videos and this is by far the best for beginners. Love the slow mo parts... great video. Subscribed ;)
Best intro ever! Yeah I agree with you on this. I used to be ham-fisted and I'd knacker out easily, until I went to a drum show and actually watched what other drummers were doing. I paused everything and went back to basics. It paid off big time!
Glad I came across this video. I was just telling a friend how much I suck at playing and it's because I don't have the finger and stick control you're referring to! Back to practice I go! 😁
Thank you going through singles and doubles so fast because of the ease of them has made me struggle for 46 years,once again, thank you very much.
That slow motion action during double strokes was exactly what i was looking for. Thank you! I started practicing double strokes a few weeks ago and i feel your video and your tip on focusing and these hand technique aspects will save me from unneccessary frustration.
Love the slow motion, thanks for posting.
This video, among many others in this channel, is very helpful for begginer drummers. Many teachers and books don't focus on this true.
Nice job Stephen. Keep bringing up what matters.
Always go back to the basics for sure
I am just beginning and I really want to learn the proper way to hold my sticks. This is harder than I thought - and this video has been super helpful. Thanks!!
Great video. Back to basics. Good advice . And good technique. . Thanks as always this is a huge help.
That's what I've been doing for a while. My left hand and wrist weren't so in sync with my right hand and wrist and I've been focusing my exercise and practice routine on these tips. And I can say it's improving quite nicely.
Cheers from Brazil, Stephen!
the internet needs MUCH more videos like this.
I'm just about to buy my first set of sticks and a practice pad. I really appreciate this info, Stephen!
I always wanted to play drums, but have never had the space to have a drum kit to play. I'm 31 and tired of waiting. I have to start someplace and after watching your video here and reading some of the comments from drum teachers, I think only being able to have a practice pad, for now, will actually be of great benefit as it will narrow my focus to mastering basic techniques instead of getting carried away with playing songs and jamming (though I can still rock out in my car while finger drumming to my favorite songs).
51 yrs old and still learning to crawl as a drummer started at 32 dont wait another day i will always wonder what younger stronger healthier me could have done with it its one of the few things in life that truly gives me joy and never gets old and makes life worth living
I like the simple breakdown, with the camera work. Simple, but extremely important
I'm 65 and I believe I've passed to quickly over those first two rudiments myself,so thanks for the information and the slow mo.
You read our minds! Legend!
Like others have said - loving the slo/mo Vids which help to reinforce the technique/s required
watched this with a big smile ..playing for ages like this ...and yes he's right follow his advice ...
Thank you...hand and rebounds extremely important
Truley to the core thats what ive been needing to hear for 40 plus years. Ty for ur help
recently I’ve spent a large amount of my time watching rudiment related videos and I never can quite seem to understand or be able to accomplish those skills. I’m a complete noob when it comes to this form of practicing and I’m greatly appreciative to find this video to help me at that spot I’m at skill wise. And work to improve my technique from the basics instead of consistent frustration with the challenging rudiments. Thank you for the content you create! It truly provides hope that at 24 with almost no prior experience I can master the drums to the best of my ability, thank you!
Excellent reminder for all drummers. I’m a gigging drummer in the Boston area. This advice is particularly pertinent to me. My band plays punk w most of the songs being in the 180 bpm range. Without loose and relaxed hands fatigue sets in quick and things go to shit. I’d love a video on keeping feet relaxed and controlled and points of contact of feet on pedals.
If you're still around, check out Bruce Becker's video on bass drum pedal technique.
@@farshimelt
Cool. I will. Thanks!
Great tip... will start concentrating on this
All these technique vids Have VASTLY improved my playing.
Can do many things but fast sounded jibberishy.
CLEAN Good play is NECESSITY!
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I am a guitarist, I have a music school in Canada. I’ve recently started playing the drums and truly enjoy the instrument, I have the book called stick control and have been trying to do some of the fancier stuff, but to be honest this video made me realize that it’s those basics that I should really focus on. Thanks for this video!
Thank you so much for posting this! I'm one that learns best by detailed, practical examples. The tips on finger control as well as the slo-mo footage of the exercises really helped me in understanding and appreciating the importance of finger control. I feel my playing will vastly improve after viewing this video. Thumbs up!
Thanks bud! That actually helped. Been playing 11 years and thought "oh i got that thing covered" but just realized my left hand free moving rebound aint good.
Sumthing to work on this morning haha tnx
you have been playing more than I have lived. Holy cow.
Using a metronome is also a key factor in advancing your playing. When I was young the only metronome available was the mechanical device, and I was told that it was a important part, but never bought one. I now realize this was a big reason for not advancing in my playing. Nowadays with electronic metronomes there is no excuse.
That slow motion ... I lost words. THANKS BRO ! Keep it up
I think this is so good and important. I only wish I had drum lessons or TH-cam when I was a kid. Trying to relearn things is not easy, but I don't mind, becuase no matter what you're doing if you don't have the fundamentals down you're not going to be the best you can be. Now I have a better understanding about why I have found myself so frustrated at times. Thanks for reminding me that without solid basics, higher level skills are limited and may be sloppy. Great videos Stephen.
Slowing it down it’s amazing, good teaching.
I've been playing, on & off, for 26 years (never really had a teacher). This stuff is so helpful because I've developed some bad habits in my techniques on how to perform different things. Thanks a lot!!!
that slow motion really helped me understand what i was doing wrong. thank you man
Bingo! Ive been immersed in rudiments (Im a beginner) for serveral months and it has been a SlowGo until I finally sat down and thought about getting the basic sticking right before going back to rudiments. You are correct in that beginners need to have some correct mechanics before even trying to go to rudiments. This all makes sense. Thanks for this video lesson.
Damn. I just realized that I haven’t been there in so long that I almost forgot I ever was there. Literally almost typed out a snarky lil comment but then I remembered that before I was good at playing and incorporating rudiments dynamically I was here. Can’t forget that we were all beginners once, It’d be a mistake.