Few thousand hours ago my first aircraft was a Tomahawk so many pilots with bad stories and when asked have you actually flown or owned one “Well no but I heard??” Australia is large and that little plane travelled a lot of it. I learnt so much fm it and always smile when see photos of her. I found it to be all you have found, so easy and forgiving to fly. A lot of my flights were late at night and on those magical nights clear full moon and endless stars through that canopy I just wish every pilot could experience that sight and feeling. My years with our Tomahawk was some of my most memorable flying times. I fly modern fast aircraft now but still our PA38 holds a place.
What a treat it is to watch this video again after finishing my PPL and Instrument. I remember watching this video before I had even logged an hour in a Tomahawk but knew I would be flying them at my local flight school. Appreciate your wisdom to help me along the journey Josh. You're an ambassador to GA and aviation around the world.
Nice film this, brought back many happy memories. I learnt to fly and got my PPL in Piper Tomahawks in 1986 at Ipswich airport in the UK. After qualifying I added other types to my experience - Cherokees, Cessnas, Robins etc but I never lost my love for the PA-38. You're right, stall, incipient spin and spin recovery needs to be assertive and timely using standard recovery procedures, but she will recover nicely. The full power, maximum rate turn pull to the buffet and stall is as dramatic as it probably gets, whichever wing stalls first it feels like you're entering an inverted spin - your not - sit back, let it settle and standard recovery will work but don't try this exercise below 4000'. Anyway, I spent a couple of months in 1996 working in Minneapolis and flew from Lake Elmo. They checked my credentials and wheeled out a dusty old PA-38 for me to do my check ride. After pumping up a flat tyre we got airborne, my check instructor took me through the usual aircraft handling routine until it came to stall recovery/ incipient spin recovery. I demonstrated the power off wings level pull to buffet recovery and that was it! He didn't want to go any further and happily signed me off. Think I flew that Tomahawk more over that two months more than she'd been flown over the last two years. Finally, turned up one evening after work for a flight - Tomahawks having a 50 hour check - would I be happy taking a 152? No Check ride but just as we walked to the aeroplane from the clubhouse a shout 'Phil! Don't let her get below 55 on finals!' There seemed to be be a genuine fear of the PA-38 in the USA at the time How are you getting on with yours?
I did my check ride and received my PPL in a '79 PA-38 Piper Tomahawk just like your new baby, way back in 1980! It was a fun plane to fly, and as you said: "...it does have some goofy stall characteristics, but if nothing else it will really teach your students to stay coordinated." I remember some awkward recoveries, one being the accelerated stall. I remember that maneuver sometimes brought "interesting" results, like being shot out of a sling shot! It definitely calls for a coordinated recovery, as you point out. I sure enjoy your little "short hop" video to get the vacuum pump. A really nice, high-quality 20 min video production (I've been crafting videos since my HS days as well). This segment brings back memories of days long past for me. I do have a Tomahawk II in my "flight line" with Lockheed Martin's P3Dv4 (flight sim), which is very immersive and flies just like the real deal. I too wanted to be in aviation, however, the fire service got a hold of me, where I served almost 35 years, now retired. I have friends who are in aviation, my next door neighbor just received his PPL and another buddy is a Captain with Southwest, to name a few. Josh, I enjoyed the ride and hope things are going well for you and your friends in your endeavors. Thank you for sharing!
Always loved the Traumahawk. It has a soft spot in my heart. I good friend of mine back in 1988 took me for a flight from San Diego to Palm Springs in July. I literally overcame my motion sickness that day. If you ever have a passenger who is becoming nauseous, simply have them fly the plane for a short while. They will usually completely forget about feeling sick.
I love seeing the start up sequence in your videos! Makes it seem almost more authentic. And yeah some thing about the Pipers get really hot quick. I fly a Cherokee out of Michigan. It can be fifteen degrees outside and I'm cooking inside.
My dad has over 2000 hrs in the Tomahawk back in the late 70s early 80s during is learning and training days so simple and nice to fly low and slow and check things out in.
I just finished my PPL(A) on this plane and the Cessna 172( I have more time on the Tomahawk), I must say that I fell in love with this plane, and you just made me smile by flying it ! Keep on the good work! Love your vids
Congrats on the new venture! I'm with you, I always did like a trainer that would bite a bit if you didn't fly it right... "You teach best that which you most need to know." -- Richard Bach Good learning to you!
I'm glad you decided to become a flight instructor and make your own school. to me that seems like something you would be very good at. I recently just got to college and am actually majoring in aviation flight at Lewis University. Next Tuesday I start my first lessons in a Cessna 172 S and hopefully by the end of this year I will be a private pilot. if i didn't have the opportunity to go to this school, i would have definitely gone to yours once it is up and running. your videos are very inspiring. Keep flying!
Congrats on the new school. Teaching others to fly is very rewarding. I have students who now fly 737's, 777's and many others in between. You mentioned the incredible visibility in the tomahawk and and how hot it was several times. they go hand in hand in that plane unfortunately ! Best of luck.
I love the Tomahawk. I did the opposite than you: Made the PPL training in a Tomahawk and then transitioned to a C-152. I found the transition extremely easy and flying the C-152 almost boring, and I was soon back in the Tomahawk. It is not only much more comfortable (especially at 6' 4"), but much more fun!
Pretty much exactly my experience, a much better airplane to learn in. You simply can't be as sloppy as you can in the 150/172. The first time I flew a 150 the instructor asked me to spin it, and I kicked it out less than 1/2 turn in. He said "no, the whole way around", and I replied "that would have been, in a T-hawk"
Hey Josh, cool video as always. One small comment - it may be worth checking that your aileron controls are free at full yolk back too - doing the four sides of the 'square' makes sure that cables/rods don't bind at full deflection. Also, thanks very much for the prompts to listen to the new frequency before speaking :)
Yup, Piper has had the manual " parking brake handle" for the flaps since before forever :-) I remember it on a friends Cherokee 140. When I flew it, I remember how much the Cherokee wanted to float before touchdown. The low wing definitely takes some getting used to, transitioning from the C-172. Happy holidays, CAVU and Merry Christmas!
Thank you, Josh! Fantastic video, and I'm pleasantly surprised at the Tomahawk. Having flown Cessna 150s and 152s, a Piper Cherokee and a Beech Musketeer, it looks like a very good basic aircraft.
I'm not normally a Tomahawk fan.. But I think you guys have got yourselves a good little airplane. Clean, Fresh engine.. I like the paint scheme on yours, very attractive... good score.
Great Video! I have fond memories of a training flight I did on one of these. We departed Santa Barbara Airport (SBA), flew over the cliff at UCSB and then down the Pacific coastline to look at sunbathers and then landed on Runway 15 R. The aircraft has probably the best visibility in civil aviation, but I imagine it would be a somewhat of a heat bubble during a Texas summer flight.
With those style of throttle I hold it at the base by pinching between my thumb and finger, resting on base part if you know what I mean, that way you don't move the throttle when you hit the bumps ;)
Cool Platue field to fly into Josh! Ive only landed there once in a 172SP and they say be careful with the down drafts when landing there. Great vid and thanks for sharing.
Fabulous video, Josh. I love flying the PA-38 Tomahawk II, here in eastern Australia. Keep these videos coming, please. They're a valuable teaching/learning resource. Good job, mate.
Love that Tomahawk ! I've yet to fly one myself, but have always wanted to. Best of luck with this airplane Josh and your training students in it, I hope it serves you well.
Great channel, Sir. I don't know what's the deal with that, but it just calms me to listen to just the audio while working with my browser in the background. The hiss, noise and professionals communicating with calm voices about things I don't really have any idea about. I would love to have a person like you as a instructor some day. Keep them up and good luck with the flight school.
Okay its an old item, but watching it, I feel perhaps I should mention one of my first student pre-flights on a Cherokee 160. I am guessing the Tomahawk flaps actuator mechanism is similar on both aircraft. I watched the Cherokee arrive and the pilot bounce out and come briskly to the office. He announced the plane was wonderful. In the Pre-flight, I got as far as the starboard flap. I inspected what I could see of the actuating mechanism and noticed that the clevice pin was almost fully disengaged. No split-pin or washers. Upon declaring the plane U/S - the instructor and the pilot could not believe it, and so went to the plane to look for themselves. Their manner was they doubted this student. Soon they turned white. Asymmetric flap appeals no more to them than me. But too many of us get negligent in a lot of vital aviation aspects.
I learned to fly in Cherokees and flew 172s later so I've encountered some of the same issues you mention with the Tomahawk, just in the opposite direction. On the Cherokee you get used to resting your hand on the base of the quadrant and holding the throttle with your fingers. Neat little plane! :-)
I absolutely love your videos they are a blessing... they give me life and wishing much success for your flight school looking forward to more great videos too...
Really enjoyed this video. I'm currently doing my PPL in a tomahawk, after starting in a C152. Glad I made the switch, its more fun and you have to be a little sharper, esp in stalls. I really appreciate talking through the things you're doing and going on around you, that's really helpful.
Hey Josh, great vid! Congrats on the CFI license and best luck with the flight school project. The tomahawk is a nice trainer. Great visibility and ample cockpit. Just need to be cautious as not very forgiving with stalls and spins.
I try not to critical on things. This time though I'm going to mention something that I saw. The lack of Carb heat will put you down fast. 90 some degrees as you mentioned doesn't matter. Flight school i worked at lost a 152 into a bean field off the end of a runway. The CFI and student were not hurt and actually flew a 172 over the accidents site within an hour of the accident. They got carb ice on a day just like the one you filmed. The airplane flipped on it back and broke the rear wing spar and attachment points. After bending the crankshaft flange back we started the engine with a test club on it. That instructor was praying it wouldn't run but it did. The FAA literally told him before they left "You better start figuring out exactly what happened" He got lucky and they didn't do anything more than have him go for a checkride with them at the local FSDO. Just something to think about cause outside air temp has no real affect on carb ice. Its the temperatue of the fuel air mixture in the venture that makes the ice. Fly save and keep the videos up cause they are fun to watch.
It's just the mechanic in me. Other than flow spec of carb they are pretty much the same, if not the same. I would have to dig out the Type Certificates on them. Either way I'd use carb heat no matter the machine with the 235 Lycoming and several other engines regardless of the airframe it's mounted on.
okay for educational fun I went and looked. The Piper and Cessna 152 ues the exact same engines with one exception. The L2A was installed on the piper. Only difference was bendix mags. The N2C was a alternate engine for the 152 depending on model. So its safe to say they are exact identical engines cause well the FAA said so. One could argue that the air induction system prior to the carb could help prevent carb ice and yes it could if warm air or heated air enters the carb. But having worked both aircraft there isn't much difference. Another fun fact is the Piper Tomahawk is also one of a select few life limited single engine airframes.Some parts are 1500 hours others are 3000 and well we must have wings to fly so at 11000 hours you can scrap it or apply for an STC to extend them. Not sure how I feel on that. Haven't crossed the bridge with my friends yet.
Piper tested the wings up to an equivalent of 10k hours plus...They didnt break..So they said, this is the limit we recommend..thats it..I will follow that advise anyway..
Gabe Kremer ..thanks for your reminders...Pipers Induction Air System has like a container or box for the Air Cleaner..and its metallic (Aluminum) That box warms up the air a bit due air goes thru the box first before the carb..Cessna just pipes it direct to carb...No Air Box.. Anyway its up to the pilots to judge and decide when and how much to Carbo Heat to apply..Even on Pipers on certain conditions YOU NEED CARBO AIR..But some pipi pilots forget or are too lazy to think about the engine needs and gets it, let the engine dies and crash...Later on NTSB test the damaged engine and its starts and runs fine..The accident was due "Engine Management Pilot Error"..
In the Cessna, it depends on the engine. Carb heat is recommended upon significant power reduction and when RPMs are below the green arc. However, our -N model has the air going around a 90deg bend, which apparently means you won't need as much carb heat, as I have learned from my DPE on a checkride. He said: run it for some 15 seconds on downwind to check for ice. The advantage of that is that you won't forget to push in carb heat when you need it for a go-around. Personally, I'd rather have it on a little more, but I'm less religious about it when pulling power back on the initial descent.
I would imagine us Powered Parachute pilots and or Ultralight pilots with no radio drive you guys nuts. Watching your videos has made up my mind to get instructions on radio communications and invest.
cowboy6591 it’s really helpful to have radios on board. I always have a UHF radio on me what I fly the PPG, but I haven’t really left the clutches of my instructor yet. When I start flying distances more I’ll carry a VHF as well.
That's really awesome that you're starting a flight school Josh! That's been a dream of mine for a little while. Just need to get some more time and ratings under my belt. Always enjoy your videos man
Flight school, awesome news! I am in Round Rock and thinking about taking the PPL next spring... Was considering only Georgetown, but south becomes an attractive option :)
I always loved the 'Hawk. It's a great trainer IMO because it forces the student to really learn what piloting s all about. Newer aircraft with anti-spin features are great, but a student really doesn't learn rudder work or to avoid or get out of a spin. The PA-38 was built or this while still being a fairly stable platform. I'm a fan.
Josh, I love to watch your videos. It would be a dream if someday I'll be able to live/fly in US. Today I fly a Mitsubishi MU-2 (MEDEVAC) in Brazil. But things in aviation here are difficult. I expect that the investors come back after the president impeachment and it would be possible to be a First Officer at a big Airline. Great production and editing! Good to see you like to share what you love.
You will have fun if you spin it. Make sure you do not have aft CG. I used to instruct in the Tomahawk. When they first came out without the stall strips we called them the Hatchett. That is when no student were around.
Hey Josh, I love the Tomahawk I've got about 35 hrs in the pa-38 from my early private pilot days out of N. Las Vegas, NV. ( VGT ). Like you said the cabin space is really good for such a small plane. I love T-tails for some reason, been getting my Commercial multi in a BE-76 Duchess.. You and Brandon and a friend starting a flight school, that's pretty awesome we need more. Hope to meet ya'll someday, have to plan a trip to San Marcos. In the meantime, keep putting those great videos out; i' m learning my editing right from you; LOL. SEE, you're teaching already and don't even know it, or maybe you do. Avid follower sir; avid follower. Fly safe man, more videos, videos, videos....
Got my private flying mostly Tomahawks. Great visibility. Great cheap flying. It was interesting to watch the "T" tail on these planes wobble during power off stalls. Scary. We never did spins in this aircraft, saved that for the Cessna high wings. I really enjoyed flying the Tomahawk.
I prefer the Tomahawk to the 152. I used to fly PA38s quite a bit several years ago, and one of my sons got his PPL in them. Your video brought back some memories. I haven't found one to fly for some time. For your school (and good luck with that!), they are much cheaper to run than a 172 or PA28. Without mods., the spin can be nasty. I never fancied trying out spinning one!
Thanks. It's interesting to fly without vacuum if you are used to the instruments. On the very first flight after I got my license, a ferry flight from the maintenance shop to my flight school as part of the familiarisation flights on my Socata Rallye with my flight instructor, the vacuum pump failed. We got home fine by magnetic compass (and an ancient GPS), and I continued some more familiarisation flights without AI and DG. Not a big deal in VMC.
Very nice video Josh! I'm about to get my sports license. I wish the FAA would change the weights for a light sport aircraft. Be cool to fly one of these or a C-150.
man that was a great flight seeing majove you talking about Edwards afb was stationed there for a year till I got out then flying into pecos brings back memories of home dad lives in Kermit tx to plus the mountains and big bear in ca went snow sking in big bear but also the mountaons was pretty
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Few thousand hours ago my first aircraft was a Tomahawk so many pilots with bad stories and when asked have you actually flown or owned one “Well no but I heard??”
Australia is large and that little plane travelled a lot of it. I learnt so much fm it and always smile when see photos of her.
I found it to be all you have found, so easy and forgiving to fly. A lot of my flights were late at night and on those magical nights clear full moon and endless stars through that canopy I just wish every pilot could experience that sight and feeling. My years with our Tomahawk was some of my most memorable flying times. I fly modern fast aircraft now but still our PA38 holds a place.
Brings back memories of my 1st airplane to solo in...The Tomahawk! Great video!
What a treat it is to watch this video again after finishing my PPL and Instrument. I remember watching this video before I had even logged an hour in a Tomahawk but knew I would be flying them at my local flight school. Appreciate your wisdom to help me along the journey Josh. You're an ambassador to GA and aviation around the world.
Great video Josh. Always fun to watch.
What are you doing here m8
+FunkyA watching the video. lol
Airforceproud95 heck ya
GSOaviator pp
Airforceproud95, the great Sauce Boss of Flight Sim on steam :) Love your videos.
Nice film this, brought back many happy memories. I learnt to fly and got my PPL in Piper Tomahawks in 1986 at Ipswich airport in the UK. After qualifying I added other types to my experience - Cherokees, Cessnas, Robins etc but I never lost my love for the PA-38.
You're right, stall, incipient spin and spin recovery needs to be assertive and timely using standard recovery procedures, but she will recover nicely. The full power, maximum rate turn pull to the buffet and stall is as dramatic as it probably gets, whichever wing stalls first it feels like you're entering an inverted spin - your not - sit back, let it settle and standard recovery will work but don't try this exercise below 4000'.
Anyway, I spent a couple of months in 1996 working in Minneapolis and flew from Lake Elmo. They checked my credentials and wheeled out a dusty old PA-38 for me to do my check ride. After pumping up a flat tyre we got airborne, my check instructor took me through the usual aircraft handling routine until it came to stall recovery/ incipient spin recovery. I demonstrated the power off wings level pull to buffet recovery and that was it! He didn't want to go any further and happily signed me off. Think I flew that Tomahawk more over that two months more than she'd been flown over the last two years.
Finally, turned up one evening after work for a flight - Tomahawks having a 50 hour check - would I be happy taking a 152? No Check ride but just as we walked to the aeroplane from the clubhouse a shout 'Phil! Don't let her get below 55 on finals!'
There seemed to be be a genuine fear of the PA-38 in the USA at the time
How are you getting on with yours?
Love the Tomahawk, great little trainer, yep watch that incipient spin to the left in a stall, did my first 40 hours in one :)
Nice Josh. Good luck on your business venture. I am sure you and your business partners will be very successful. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for taking us along👍✈️
I did my check ride and received my PPL in a '79 PA-38 Piper Tomahawk just like your new baby, way back in 1980! It was a fun plane to fly, and as you said: "...it does have some goofy stall characteristics, but if nothing else it will really teach your students to stay coordinated." I remember some awkward recoveries, one being the accelerated stall. I remember that maneuver sometimes brought "interesting" results, like being shot out of a sling shot! It definitely calls for a coordinated recovery, as you point out.
I sure enjoy your little "short hop" video to get the vacuum pump. A really nice, high-quality 20 min video production (I've been crafting videos since my HS days as well). This segment brings back memories of days long past for me. I do have a Tomahawk II in my "flight line" with Lockheed Martin's P3Dv4 (flight sim), which is very immersive and flies just like the real deal. I too wanted to be in aviation, however, the fire service got a hold of me, where I served almost 35 years, now retired. I have friends who are in aviation, my next door neighbor just received his PPL and another buddy is a Captain with Southwest, to name a few.
Josh, I enjoyed the ride and hope things are going well for you and your friends in your endeavors. Thank you for sharing!
Good conversation (Not too much, not too little). Interesting flight (Not boring). Good video (Didn't get dizzy).
Good luck with the school.
Always loved the Traumahawk. It has a soft spot in my heart. I good friend of mine back in 1988 took me for a flight from San Diego to Palm Springs in July. I literally overcame my motion sickness that day. If you ever have a passenger who is becoming nauseous, simply have them fly the plane for a short while. They will usually completely forget about feeling sick.
I love seeing the start up sequence in your videos! Makes it seem almost more authentic. And yeah some thing about the Pipers get really hot quick. I fly a Cherokee out of Michigan. It can be fifteen degrees outside and I'm cooking inside.
bruh!! Piper makes me cry
Never heard of the Piper Tomahawk until this vid.Nice!
The Tomahawk is a really sweet little plane.
Great !
Josh for this extraordinary quality video.
Thank you very much .
You are a very good confirmed driver and you can also be a good instructor.
I have about 15 hours in Tomahawks, they are wonderful airplanes. A shame their production run was so short.
Brilliant VT which brought back many Happy Memories. Thanks from an Old Brit. Ex ppl!
one of my fav. airplanes flown by a top notch instructor!
Good luck on the new gig. Really like the Tomahawk too. Thanks for the ride.
Nice little airplane. Great visibility!
Keep up the good works and have fun along the way.
Beauty Josh. Working towards my first solo!!!
My dad has over 2000 hrs in the Tomahawk back in the late 70s early 80s during is learning and training days so simple and nice to fly low and slow and check things out in.
I just finished my PPL(A) on this plane and the Cessna 172( I have more time on the Tomahawk), I must say that I fell in love with this plane, and you just made me smile by flying it ! Keep on the good work! Love your vids
Congrats on the new venture! I'm with you, I always did like a trainer that would bite a bit if you didn't fly it right...
"You teach best that which you most need to know." -- Richard Bach
Good learning to you!
I'm glad you decided to become a flight instructor and make your own school. to me that seems like something you would be very good at. I recently just got to college and am actually majoring in aviation flight at Lewis University. Next Tuesday I start my first lessons in a Cessna 172 S and hopefully by the end of this year I will be a private pilot. if i didn't have the opportunity to go to this school, i would have definitely gone to yours once it is up and running. your videos are very inspiring. Keep flying!
Congrats on the new school. Teaching others to fly is very rewarding. I have students who now fly 737's, 777's and many others in between. You mentioned the incredible visibility in the tomahawk and and how hot it was several times. they go hand in hand in that plane unfortunately ! Best of luck.
I learnt to fly in a Tomahawk in New Zealand. Fantastic aircraft. Great video, brings back some memories.
thank you so much for being such an inspiration. A pilot is a technician, an aviator is an artist in love with flight. keep up the good work.
I love the Tomahawk. I did the opposite than you: Made the PPL training in a Tomahawk and then transitioned to a C-152. I found the transition extremely easy and flying the C-152 almost boring, and I was soon back in the Tomahawk. It is not only much more comfortable (especially at 6' 4"), but much more fun!
Pretty much exactly my experience, a much better airplane to learn in. You simply can't be as sloppy as you can in the 150/172.
The first time I flew a 150 the instructor asked me to spin it, and I kicked it out less than 1/2 turn in. He said "no, the whole way around", and I replied "that would have been, in a T-hawk"
Hey Josh, cool video as always. One small comment - it may be worth checking that your aileron controls are free at full yolk back too - doing the four sides of the 'square' makes sure that cables/rods don't bind at full deflection.
Also, thanks very much for the prompts to listen to the new frequency before speaking :)
oh wow, great idea/suggestion. that could be the difference between life and death.
Thanks again for sharing you flight. Wish you the best of luck with you flight school.
Yup, Piper has had the manual " parking brake handle" for the flaps since before forever :-) I remember it on a friends Cherokee 140. When I flew it, I remember how much the Cherokee wanted to float before touchdown. The low wing definitely takes some getting used to, transitioning from the C-172. Happy holidays, CAVU and Merry Christmas!
Thank you, Josh! Fantastic video, and I'm pleasantly surprised at the Tomahawk. Having flown Cessna 150s and 152s, a Piper Cherokee and a Beech Musketeer, it looks like a very good basic aircraft.
I'm not normally a Tomahawk fan.. But I think you guys have got yourselves a good little airplane. Clean, Fresh engine.. I like the paint scheme on yours, very attractive... good score.
Proud of you Josh👍 Keep up the good work. You are an inspiration!!!☺
Great Video! I have fond memories of a training flight I did on one of these. We departed Santa Barbara Airport (SBA), flew over the cliff at UCSB and then down the Pacific coastline to look at sunbathers and then landed on Runway 15 R. The aircraft has probably the best visibility in civil aviation, but I imagine it would be a somewhat of a heat bubble during a Texas summer flight.
With those style of throttle I hold it at the base by pinching between my thumb and finger, resting on base part if you know what I mean, that way you don't move the throttle when you hit the bumps ;)
nice landing, great videos looking forward for more..
Cool Platue field to fly into Josh! Ive only landed there once in a 172SP and they say be careful with the down drafts when landing there. Great vid and thanks for sharing.
Josh Congratulations on becoming a CFI. Hope your flight school will be a big success .
Fabulous video, Josh.
I love flying the PA-38 Tomahawk II, here in eastern Australia.
Keep these videos coming, please. They're a valuable teaching/learning resource.
Good job, mate.
What did you fly? I've flown VH-TLA, FTI, UAL, CFR, MIR, AFR, NRH, TKR and a few others... :-)
Love that Tomahawk ! I've yet to fly one myself, but have always wanted to. Best of luck with this airplane Josh and your training students in it, I hope it serves you well.
Great channel, Sir. I don't know what's the deal with that, but it just calms me to listen to just the audio while working with my browser in the background. The hiss, noise and professionals communicating with calm voices about things I don't really have any idea about. I would love to have a person like you as a instructor some day. Keep them up and good luck with the flight school.
I truly enjoy your videos, thank you for sharing your experiences with us.
Okay its an old item, but watching it, I feel perhaps I should mention one of my first student pre-flights on a Cherokee 160. I am guessing the Tomahawk flaps actuator mechanism is similar on both aircraft. I watched the Cherokee arrive and the pilot bounce out and come briskly to the office. He announced the plane was wonderful. In the Pre-flight, I got as far as the starboard flap. I inspected what I could see of the actuating mechanism and noticed that the clevice pin was almost fully disengaged. No split-pin or washers. Upon declaring the plane U/S - the instructor and the pilot could not believe it, and so went to the plane to look for themselves. Their manner was they doubted this student. Soon they turned white. Asymmetric flap appeals no more to them than me. But too many of us get negligent in a lot of vital aviation aspects.
I learned to fly in Cherokees and flew 172s later so I've encountered some of the same issues you mention with the Tomahawk, just in the opposite direction.
On the Cherokee you get used to resting your hand on the base of the quadrant and holding the throttle with your fingers.
Neat little plane! :-)
what about the Tomahawk?
thats a lovely looking machine.
Short or long flights, like them all, Thanks kid.
I enjoy watching your videos. Thank you.
I'm really happy for you and good luck for your flight school
nice post, its a tie for me when it comes to favorite planes, this 1 and the piper cub
I absolutely love your videos they are a blessing... they give me life and wishing much success for your flight school looking forward to more great videos too...
Nice! Did all my training in that plane here in Fresno, CA. Good plane.
Yes I trained at Mazzei and I really enjoyed my experience there. Mazzei could definitely improve on some areas, but no school is perfect.
Really enjoyed this video. I'm currently doing my PPL in a tomahawk, after starting in a C152. Glad I made the switch, its more fun and you have to be a little sharper, esp in stalls.
I really appreciate talking through the things you're doing and going on around you, that's really helpful.
Agreed!
*In the middle of a flight on VATSIM
*Notification "MrAviation101 uploaded a video"
Me: >:)
Nice video thanks - I also have grown to like the Tomahawk - great for training
I love this plane, I enjoy this setup format as well, another great video
Well good Luck in your venture hope you will revord and share some of your lessons at a later date!
Hey Josh, great vid! Congrats on the CFI license and best luck with the flight school project. The tomahawk is a nice trainer. Great visibility and ample cockpit. Just need to be cautious as not very forgiving with stalls and spins.
fun looking machine.. good luck with the "school"!!
Awesome seeing you doing more of these Tomahawk videos. There's something about it that I like... maybe it's that I'm more of a low wing guy :)
great video, like the way you explain all that you are doing..
Learned to fly in a tomahawk. Great airplane.
Good luck with the flight school! You guys are going to make a great one!
I try not to critical on things. This time though I'm going to mention something that I saw. The lack of Carb heat will put you down fast. 90 some degrees as you mentioned doesn't matter. Flight school i worked at lost a 152 into a bean field off the end of a runway. The CFI and student were not hurt and actually flew a 172 over the accidents site within an hour of the accident. They got carb ice on a day just like the one you filmed. The airplane flipped on it back and broke the rear wing spar and attachment points. After bending the crankshaft flange back we started the engine with a test club on it. That instructor was praying it wouldn't run but it did. The FAA literally told him before they left "You better start figuring out exactly what happened" He got lucky and they didn't do anything more than have him go for a checkride with them at the local FSDO. Just something to think about cause outside air temp has no real affect on carb ice. Its the temperatue of the fuel air mixture in the venture that makes the ice. Fly save and keep the videos up cause they are fun to watch.
It's just the mechanic in me. Other than flow spec of carb they are pretty much the same, if not the same. I would have to dig out the Type Certificates on them. Either way I'd use carb heat no matter the machine with the 235 Lycoming and several other engines regardless of the airframe it's mounted on.
okay for educational fun I went and looked. The Piper and Cessna 152 ues the exact same engines with one exception. The L2A was installed on the piper. Only difference was bendix mags. The N2C was a alternate engine for the 152 depending on model. So its safe to say they are exact identical engines cause well the FAA said so. One could argue that the air induction system prior to the carb could help prevent carb ice and yes it could if warm air or heated air enters the carb. But having worked both aircraft there isn't much difference. Another fun fact is the Piper Tomahawk is also one of a select few life limited single engine airframes.Some parts are 1500 hours others are 3000 and well we must have wings to fly so at 11000 hours you can scrap it or apply for an STC to extend them. Not sure how I feel on that. Haven't crossed the bridge with my friends yet.
Piper tested the wings up to an equivalent of 10k hours plus...They didnt break..So they said, this is the limit we recommend..thats it..I will follow that advise anyway..
Gabe Kremer ..thanks for your reminders...Pipers Induction Air System has like a container or box for the Air Cleaner..and its metallic (Aluminum) That box warms up the air a bit due air goes thru the box first before the carb..Cessna just pipes it direct to carb...No Air Box..
Anyway its up to the pilots to judge and decide when and how much to Carbo Heat to apply..Even on Pipers on certain conditions YOU NEED CARBO AIR..But some pipi pilots forget or are too lazy to think about the engine needs and gets it, let the engine dies and crash...Later on NTSB test the damaged engine and its starts and runs fine..The accident was due "Engine Management Pilot Error"..
In the Cessna, it depends on the engine. Carb heat is recommended upon significant power reduction and when RPMs are below the green arc. However, our -N model has the air going around a 90deg bend, which apparently means you won't need as much carb heat, as I have learned from my DPE on a checkride. He said: run it for some 15 seconds on downwind to check for ice. The advantage of that is that you won't forget to push in carb heat when you need it for a go-around. Personally, I'd rather have it on a little more, but I'm less religious about it when pulling power back on the initial descent.
I would imagine us Powered Parachute pilots and or Ultralight pilots with no radio drive you guys nuts.
Watching your videos has made up my mind to get instructions on radio communications and invest.
cowboy6591 it’s really helpful to have radios on board. I always have a UHF radio on me what I fly the PPG, but I haven’t really left the clutches of my instructor yet. When I start flying distances more I’ll carry a VHF as well.
That's really awesome that you're starting a flight school Josh! That's been a dream of mine for a little while. Just need to get some more time and ratings under my belt. Always enjoy your videos man
Good video had some lessons years ago in a tomahawk going to start lessons in the spring for ppl
Good luck with the flight school! We're about the same age and you've gone a lot further with your flying than I have.
Flight school, awesome news! I am in Round Rock and thinking about taking the PPL next spring... Was considering only Georgetown, but south becomes an attractive option :)
Great bird, I currently own one and rather fly this than a 150/152/172. Easy to fly, cheap, and good speed for being a trainer.
Thank you--great info. I'm considering a PA-38 for my first plane. Best wishes on your new venture.
I always loved the 'Hawk. It's a great trainer IMO because it forces the student to really learn what piloting s all about. Newer aircraft with anti-spin features are great, but a student really doesn't learn rudder work or to avoid or get out of a spin. The PA-38 was built or this while still being a fairly stable platform. I'm a fan.
I learned to fly in Tomahawks. I liked them.
Great landing👌
Hahahah I can tell why you needed a new pump
Really great video!
Josh, I love to watch your videos. It would be a dream if someday I'll be able to live/fly in US. Today I fly a Mitsubishi MU-2 (MEDEVAC) in Brazil. But things in aviation here are difficult. I expect that the investors come back after the president impeachment and it would be possible to be a First Officer at a big Airline. Great production and editing! Good to see you like to share what you love.
Looking forward to hearing all about your adventures running a flight school...
Good luck with your flight school. It will be successful I am sure. Nice plane for students.
You will have fun if you spin it. Make sure you do not have aft CG. I used to instruct in the Tomahawk. When they first came out without the stall strips we called them the Hatchett. That is when no student were around.
Hey Josh, I love the Tomahawk I've got about 35 hrs in the pa-38 from my early private pilot days out of N. Las Vegas, NV. ( VGT ). Like you said the cabin space is really good for such a small plane. I love T-tails for some reason, been getting my Commercial multi in a BE-76 Duchess.. You and Brandon and a friend starting a flight school, that's pretty awesome we need more. Hope to meet ya'll someday, have to plan a trip to San Marcos. In the meantime, keep putting those great videos out; i' m learning my editing right from you; LOL. SEE, you're teaching already and don't even know it, or maybe you do. Avid follower sir; avid follower. Fly safe man, more videos, videos, videos....
A flight school! Now that's exciting!
Got my private flying mostly Tomahawks. Great visibility. Great cheap flying. It was interesting to watch the "T" tail on these planes wobble during power off stalls. Scary. We never did spins in this aircraft, saved that for the Cessna high wings. I really enjoyed flying the Tomahawk.
Plane still has an ashtray. Sweet! 😉
I prefer the Tomahawk to the 152. I used to fly PA38s quite a bit several years ago, and one of my sons got his PPL in them. Your video brought back some memories. I haven't found one to fly for some time. For your school (and good luck with that!), they are much cheaper to run than a 172 or PA28. Without mods., the spin can be nasty. I never fancied trying out spinning one!
Cool video thanks for sharing.
I've made that approach to Rusty Allen several times. Always a bumpy ride all the way down. Wind always gusty.
Thanks for shraring! Great video and i'm learning a lot as always
We love the videos josh!
Learned flying on a 38.... also my first solo... would love to fly it again...
Nice have that big fan on the front to cool you down when you popped the door open
I just idolise what you do with all of these stuffs)
Your a great instructor
I solo'ed in a PA38 - I love these aircraft.
Thanks. It's interesting to fly without vacuum if you are used to the instruments. On the very first flight after I got my license, a ferry flight from the maintenance shop to my flight school as part of the familiarisation flights on my Socata Rallye with my flight instructor, the vacuum pump failed. We got home fine by magnetic compass (and an ancient GPS), and I continued some more familiarisation flights without AI and DG. Not a big deal in VMC.
Use to own a thawk. Over 300 hours in PA38. Great airplane
Very nice video Josh! I'm about to get my sports license. I wish the FAA would change the weights for a light sport aircraft. Be cool to fly one of these or a C-150.
man that was a great flight seeing majove you talking about Edwards afb was stationed there for a year till I got out then flying into pecos brings back memories of home dad lives in Kermit tx to plus the mountains and big bear in ca went snow sking in big bear but also the mountaons was pretty